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Scrubbing in with

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Becketilly and Tanya

3:25

Rand, an I-Hart

3:28

radio podcast. Hello everybody,

3:30

we are scrubbing in.

3:32

Scrubbed up in a

3:35

different time. We're in the,

3:37

we're not in our usual spot,

3:39

like we're in the studio,

3:42

but we're in the podcast

3:44

room. Yes, we're in the

3:46

room where we normally do

3:48

our interviews with guests.

3:50

So I'm sitting across

3:52

from BT. How do I look on

3:54

my camera? If I'm being honest,

3:56

I can't see you. OK. Because the

3:59

thing is over. your face. Okay. How

4:01

do I look at my camera? I

4:03

also can't see. Yeah. So good luck

4:05

to both of us. Yeah, let's cross

4:08

our fingers and pray. Toes. Oh, yeah.

4:10

Um, it's Friday. It is. We're doing

4:12

a little pre recording for Monday because

4:14

it's a, Tony has a busy weekend.

4:17

So. Somehow Tanya is still going. Still

4:19

going. You know what's crazy? Ali was

4:21

texting me. She's like, are you feeling

4:24

the post wedding blues? And I was

4:26

like, I felt a little bit of

4:28

like a come down like on Sunday

4:30

when we were packing and leaving. Like

4:33

that was definitely like sad. And I

4:35

was like feeling sad about it being

4:37

over. But I was like, I went

4:40

straight into work on Monday and I've

4:42

had just. Literally so much going on

4:44

and then I fly to New York

4:46

for Jonas Khan and then I come

4:49

back and we go on our mini

4:51

moon and then I come back and

4:53

I'm going to Houston for another event.

4:55

So it's like the next three weeks

4:58

are just so jam-packed that I'm like,

5:00

I don't think I have time to

5:02

have the blues. You know, it's interesting.

5:05

There's almost everything that you did for

5:07

your wedding. I was like, I'm taking

5:09

notes on like things that I also

5:11

would do except for your come down.

5:14

at least a week off. Yeah, that

5:16

was like I would say in hindsight

5:18

my biggest regret was I wish we

5:20

would have stayed in like Punta Mita

5:23

on Sunday even come back Monday you

5:25

know but just like had that data

5:27

like rest and relax instead of packing

5:30

and like trying to like our room

5:32

was totally disheveled because that's where we

5:34

got ready so Robbie was like I

5:36

don't know where half of my stuff

5:39

is so like trying to not in

5:41

a bad way but like trying to

5:43

pack and remember everything was just like

5:45

Henhouse. It was just like mayhem. I

5:48

know and it was like such a

5:50

gort like you really didn't need to

5:52

go anywhere. You could have just stayed

5:55

for a couple days. Yeah, that's okay.

5:57

Robbie had to get back. Robbie had

5:59

she's been so busy with work that

6:01

he was like I couldn't have stayed

6:04

one more day. Well, yeah, that makes

6:06

me feel a little bit better that

6:08

it wasn't like just me. Right. You

6:11

were in it together. Yeah. That's grinding

6:13

to the top. Yeah. People are loving

6:15

the wedding content. I was saying like

6:17

between Sam's footage and bringing Ashley who

6:20

helps you with social media. If there

6:22

are any brides out there that need

6:24

or are thinking about having a content

6:26

creator at their wedding, having Ashley was

6:29

like, I haven't even posted that she.

6:31

She's already like made Tik Talks and

6:33

videos that it's like in like a

6:36

finished thing for me from my wedding

6:38

and I've been watching those I haven't

6:40

even posted any of them because I've

6:42

just been posting all the other content

6:45

that I have but yeah I mean

6:47

she was top to bottom. Amazing. Because

6:49

even if you don't like, even if

6:51

you're not a content creator, like an

6:54

influencer and you're like, I don't need

6:56

to share everything online. I think just

6:58

having the videos and the footage to

7:01

reminisce and like, she got moments, she

7:03

got so many just moments of things

7:05

that happened. And like, she made a

7:07

video of me, like, I probably won't

7:10

post it because it's like very emotional,

7:12

but it was of my dad and

7:14

it was like. to everybody else she's

7:16

the bride but to me she's my

7:19

baby girl and I was like all

7:21

these videos of like my dad throughout

7:23

the weekend and like to this beautiful

7:26

song you know and I'm like I

7:28

probably won't post that but just having

7:30

that you know because our videographer I

7:32

have no idea what he's gonna send

7:35

me like do you know what I

7:37

mean I have no idea what like

7:39

what I'm gonna get but I know

7:41

I already have some good stuff so

7:44

like whatever yeah whatever that was it

7:46

that was a win a huge win

7:48

How's married life? One week down? Oh

7:51

my gosh, today's your week anniversary. Yeah,

7:53

he was like, happy one week anniversary.

7:55

I was like, Kew? We did it!

7:57

We made it. Married life is different.

8:00

Really? Yeah. How so? I felt like

8:02

after we got engaged, it felt different.

8:04

It's like a different level of commitment.

8:07

And then marriage is like another level

8:09

of commitment. So it's almost just like.

8:11

you feel like, I don't know, it's

8:13

not safer because I always felt safe,

8:16

but it's just like this, I don't

8:18

know, maybe it's just me. Well, I

8:20

don't think it's just you, I always

8:22

hear people say that, but I also

8:25

think that was always something very important

8:27

to you was like, the like safety,

8:29

safety, and commitment of each step of

8:32

getting to where you are now. Yeah.

8:34

Once you have a baby, y'all are

8:36

locked in. I know we're talking about

8:38

that now. Wow. Y'all are doing your

8:41

honeymoon. And a lot of people ask

8:43

about, do we really talk about this?

8:45

A lot of people ask about honeymoon.

8:47

You're doing a honeymoon. We're doing a

8:50

honeymoon at the end of June. Yeah.

8:52

Like 4th of July week. It's an

8:54

easier week just work-wise. Yeah. To take

8:57

time off. So we're going to do

8:59

that. We're going to do a mini-moon

9:01

in like two weekends. So not this

9:03

weekend, but the weekend after. Where is

9:06

that? Where are you all staying? She

9:08

loves Mexico. She's a Mexico girly. We're

9:10

staying at the Waldorf. So we're just

9:12

going for two days. But I think

9:15

it'll be nice because I feel like

9:17

we got back from our wedding and

9:19

we haven't had. We haven't had... We're

9:22

going to have one date night until

9:24

our miniboon. Whoa. Because I'm going to

9:26

be gone. Oh yeah. Yeah. I literally

9:28

was saying to Sam like we're... She

9:31

goes, what are you doing this weekend?

9:33

And I was like, I'm just hanging

9:35

out with Haley. Like I haven't had

9:37

like just uninterrupted like intentional time with

9:40

her in a minute. Yeah. So I

9:42

was like, she, you know, I was

9:44

like, I gave all my everything I

9:47

had went to Tanya and Robbie over

9:49

last week. Like everything that I had

9:51

in me was given to them. So

9:53

she needs my she needs a little

9:56

attention back. Yeah. It's funny because I

9:58

feel like It was all for us,

10:00

everything was for us, but we haven't

10:03

spent, he and I haven't spent alone

10:05

time together. Like, literally at all in

10:07

the past two weeks. It is funny

10:09

because... of weddings it's all about it's

10:12

your relationship and your love and your

10:14

commitment and yet it's every so many

10:16

other people involved in that process because

10:18

it's like you're the host of a

10:21

party yeah but the party is the

10:23

biggest party for yourself. Robbie made it

10:25

he always said he was like our

10:28

wedding we are guests at our wedding

10:30

oh we are the guests at our

10:32

wedding we don't we are not like

10:34

we don't Host and make people like

10:37

you know even though we did we

10:39

totally like wanted to like dance with

10:41

everybody I I know I mean that's

10:43

just who you are yeah, your host

10:46

host and your host and work your

10:48

host and we're gonna have a really

10:50

big Taco Thursday in a couple weeks

10:53

and we're gonna like basically by like

10:55

not everybody that was at the wedding

10:57

but like the majority of people that

10:59

were at the wedding. I was like

11:02

trying to get I was like maybe

11:04

I just have Toni's in her wedding

11:06

guest list and I just copy that

11:08

and I'm just like all of Robbie's

11:11

family comes. So we invited his family

11:13

to her movies greeting tonight. Wow it's

11:15

going to be a mini reunion literally

11:18

can't wait. You're doing Jonas Con, speaking

11:20

of just busy. You're going to Jonas

11:22

Con on Sunday. I am. Explain what

11:24

Jonas Con is, because for someone who

11:27

is not in the Jonas Hemisphere. So

11:29

you know what a convention is, right?

11:31

So it's to celebrate their 20-year anniversary

11:34

of Jonas Brothers. The Jonas Brothers, right

11:36

Sam? Yeah, like, the inception of the

11:38

Jonas Brothers Brothers. Okay. So it's their

11:40

20-year anniversary. So they're doing Jonas Con,

11:43

which is basically Jonas Brothers Convention Convention.

11:45

and it's a convention for the Jonas

11:47

Brothers. What happens though? Like they're performing?

11:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean there's gonna

11:52

be like other performances too. I'm not

11:54

totally in the no because I know

11:56

what I'm doing. Which is what? I'm

11:59

basically bringing them out on. stage. I

12:01

don't even know if what

12:03

I'm doing is like

12:05

shared publicly yet.

12:07

There's going to

12:10

be Jonas Golf,

12:12

Jonas Pizza, Camp

12:14

Rock, Karaoke, Jonas

12:16

Escape Room, Shake

12:19

By The Ocean,

12:21

Jonas Trivia, Jonas

12:23

Cookies, Dream Wheel, Around the

12:26

Clock. And then I'm basically

12:28

going to introduce them. Like

12:30

I'm going to bring them

12:32

out and I don't know if

12:34

I'm supposed to like share. Oh yeah,

12:36

whatever. Oh no, no, but this is

12:39

during Monday and I'll be okay. So

12:41

I'm basically bringing them out and then

12:43

They're going to play specific songs to

12:45

like fans in the audience. So I'm going

12:47

to be kind of like the reporter in

12:50

the field with the fans asking them kind

12:52

of like what the songs mean to them.

12:54

So like it's not just like straight concert

12:56

where they're just going to like keep playing

12:59

song after song. It's going to be like

13:01

fans explaining what the songs mean

13:03

to them. Gotcha. And then I saw chicks

13:05

in the office or doing like a live podcast?

13:07

Yeah. Is this the first ever Jonas con?

13:09

I can't wait to hear about this.

13:11

I was so honored that they wanted

13:13

me to do this. I was like,

13:16

isn't there anybody that lives on the

13:18

East Coast that like? Yeah, why didn't

13:20

they call up Ashley I? Because Tanya

13:22

Rad, yeah, is the number one Jonas

13:25

fan. I'm wearing my... I don't know. I

13:27

think Ashley Beats you and Jonas.

13:29

I do. She's been to like double

13:31

digit concerts, I think. Is she

13:33

gonna be wearing it? I love Kevin

13:36

shirt? I don't know. Yeah, I don't

13:38

think so. But she has to be going

13:40

to this. You should contact her. Yeah, I

13:42

wonder what she is. I have to be

13:44

going to this. Yeah. I can't imagine her

13:47

missing it. Well, that's exciting. I

13:49

am excited. Just me and the

13:51

bros. You and my bros. Speaking

13:53

of Tanya Rad, yeah, you changed

13:56

your Instagram name. I changed my name,

13:58

but not my handle. Right. What

14:00

are your thoughts on that? Keep the

14:03

handle as it is, right? I

14:05

say keep the handle as it is

14:07

because you're still Tanya Rad Yad.

14:09

So Tanya Rad's still your name?

14:11

Right. You know, it's like your

14:14

middle name. Right. No need to

14:16

like... But it's also like you could

14:18

just change the R to the Y.

14:20

Tanya Yad? Yeah. And no, maybe

14:23

people won't even notice the

14:25

difference. Because

14:27

I've just typed in T-A-N to get

14:29

your name to pop up. They're not

14:32

like typing in the whole thing. Yeah,

14:34

but what if people type in

14:36

rad to find me? It'll probably

14:38

still pop up. I'll lose those

14:40

people. Too risky. Yeah, too risky.

14:42

Yeah, it feels risky. That feels

14:44

like more of a month long

14:46

into marriage decision. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

14:49

not a weekend. How are you

14:51

feeling post wedding? I feel like

14:53

I'm the one who just got

14:55

wed. recovering but that could just

14:57

be from the self-induced

14:59

situation that I gave myself and my

15:01

body is like... The video of you

15:03

taking the shot is diabolical. It really

15:06

is because like even I was shocked

15:08

by how well I faked it like

15:10

I even surprised myself. Robbie goes she

15:13

could have made a face but the

15:15

the body jerk that she made was

15:17

like took it to a whole other

15:19

level. I had to sell it. And

15:22

people were like... She gave it

15:24

away by not using her lime

15:26

but I never use my lime.

15:28

Fun fact. Fun fact? I

15:30

never use my lime. It's

15:32

already so bad that like

15:34

my focus is just getting

15:37

the shot down. I don't

15:39

need something else. Did Sam,

15:41

did you know that she

15:43

had water in that? Why

15:45

were you filming that? You

15:47

were just filming us taking

15:49

a shot together? Oh my

15:51

gosh. Oh my gosh. Which we're on the dance

15:53

for, they were in their seat, which was kind of

15:55

a distance, but like they had a straight shot to

15:58

watching me do it. So when I finished, they were...

16:00

like wide-eyed and like clapping

16:02

for me and I

16:04

was like I took water and

16:06

they were like no I feel

16:09

so lied to that whole day

16:11

like fully lied to it was

16:13

for the the cause it was

16:15

for good it was for

16:17

good all of it was

16:19

for good because I my

16:22

whole intention was like Okay,

16:24

you did this to yourself. It

16:26

was so stupid. Like why did

16:28

you have so much fun if you

16:30

were so sick? Like you looked like

16:33

you were having a good time. I

16:35

had a great, well by that point,

16:37

I did have a great time. Oh,

16:39

you weren't sick anymore at night time.

16:42

I was not going to risk

16:44

anymore at night time. I was

16:46

not going to risk it, but

16:48

I ate Haley's buttered noodles. That

16:50

was the first thing I ate.

16:52

I would say once we got to

16:55

the ceremony part, I was okay.

16:57

I think being outside and having

16:59

the fresh air, I was like

17:01

very relaxed and just like happy

17:03

that I made it. The relief

17:05

that flooded me that I made it

17:07

to that moment. Oh, sigh relief. But

17:10

anyways, it was like crazy

17:12

waking up because I was like,

17:14

you, I was doing someone the

17:16

other night, like I have never

17:18

used mental strength like that where I

17:20

was like, get your ass up. This is

17:23

your best friend's wedding. You

17:25

did this to yourself figure it

17:27

out like I was like using I

17:29

wasn't there was no gentle parenting

17:32

with myself. I mean it's so

17:34

crazy looking back on videos and

17:36

stuff I'm like mmm Yeah, I see

17:38

it now, but in the moment I didn't

17:40

see it at all Yeah, well I didn't

17:42

think you would because you had so much

17:45

other like I knew that I could get

17:47

away of being a little Under the radar

17:49

under the radar. Well, I wasn't under the

17:51

radar I was dying laughing though because so

17:53

all my brain was thinking because they told

17:55

us you have to be ready for photos

17:57

at one and then after that we were

18:00

needed until 3.30 on the

18:02

schedule. And so I was

18:04

like, okay, we're probably

18:06

gonna finish pictures

18:08

at like 1.3. 145. I can go

18:10

back to the room, just lay

18:13

down and just like recharge.

18:15

Kara, the photographer, was like,

18:17

Becca, can you go put

18:19

your dress on so that

18:21

we can get Tanya into

18:24

her dress? And I was like,

18:26

oh yeah, of course. No, not for

18:28

you! No, not for you! But yeah, I

18:30

think it was also like the adrenaline

18:33

and like happiness of the day

18:35

helped me too. And the Zofran.

18:37

Dang. But anyways, yeah, the shot

18:39

video is so good. I couldn't

18:41

believe we got that on film.

18:43

But also I would have been

18:46

so upset because if I had had

18:48

tequila, I would have taken the whole

18:50

thing and you took like a baby

18:52

sip. So that's my trick. Well, you

18:55

said half, but I don't even think

18:57

half went on that. I never

18:59

got drunk that night. Drunk. I

19:01

was tipsy. Mm. But I think it's

19:03

because I take little sips here

19:05

and there. Mm-hmm. You think I

19:08

got drunk? I would say you were

19:10

a little past tipsy, but you

19:12

weren't, you weren't like, slop, like,

19:14

nothing. Yeah, I remember everything, like,

19:17

no blackouts, no, like, like, sick.

19:19

Yeah. Yeah, the the trick is.

19:21

Whoever downs in a full shot

19:23

like that is like a psychopath.

19:25

Those things are huge. Yeah, and

19:28

I did like eight of them

19:30

on Thursday night. That's crazy. Without

19:32

eating. Like everybody from now on,

19:34

we need to make a rule

19:36

from now on, shots need to

19:38

be filled up halfway. A full

19:41

shot class is way too much.

19:43

If after the age of 35. That

19:45

I agree with. Yeah. Because it

19:47

like we dated Paulina like from

19:49

now on Paulina there is a

19:52

note that says that says from

19:54

now on shock glasses to be

19:56

filled halfway if you are 35

19:58

years or older period. Because it

20:00

was like every shot I took,

20:03

Paulina was taking a shot at

20:05

that time too. It was a

20:07

diabolical duo. And the next morning

20:09

she was like, I'm so, I'm

20:11

having so much anxiety, like what

20:13

did I do? What did I

20:15

say? And I was like, I'm

20:17

so sick. I haven't even gone

20:19

to the anxiety part yet. I

20:21

haven't even thought about what I

20:23

said or did. I have to

20:25

hope that. I was at least

20:27

charming and funny enough to get

20:29

away with it. I think you

20:31

were all fine because everybody's been

20:33

texting me all week saying how

20:35

amazing my friends are and blah

20:37

blah blah. So no notes. Sorry

20:39

that you have to have such

20:41

great friends. No notes. I went

20:43

to Rachel Kirkhanel did a collab

20:45

with this clothing brand called Show

20:47

Po and so she had my

20:50

hotel without invite. Rachel Kirkhanel have

20:52

an event the week after I

20:54

get married at my hotel and

20:56

don't send me an invite. You

20:58

know what's so funny? I was

21:00

like, my best friend got engaged

21:02

here and she had her bridal

21:04

shower here because it was in

21:06

the same area. And I was

21:08

like, man, that really is just

21:10

really significant for me in my

21:12

life. Like no one else cares.

21:14

Was she like, cool? Everyone's just

21:16

kind of like, oh yeah, it's

21:18

really pretty here. Like, okay. I've

21:20

been in a bubble. I've been

21:22

in the out of our bubble.

21:24

Susie cares. Susie cares. Susie would

21:26

care, yeah. I love Susie. Yeah,

21:28

she told me when I didn't

21:30

have a videographer, she's like, I

21:32

was about to dust off my

21:34

camera and come out to Mexico

21:37

for you. I just love her.

21:39

She's so creative and she's so

21:41

kind. I texted her after I

21:43

saw her. Like, you're so sweet,

21:45

you're kind, you're warm. Yeah. She's

21:47

so beautiful. Yeah, she's really warm.

21:49

Yeah, I was like a bunch

21:51

of bachelor girls, but I was

21:53

by far the oldest. That's always

21:55

like a funny thing for me.

21:57

Like when we take the group

21:59

picture, I'm looking around like, dang.

22:01

I came way before y'all. The

22:03

age thing is starting to like

22:05

pop up more for me as

22:07

well. Like I don't know like

22:09

what my algorithm is like doing

22:11

lately But like I'm being targeted

22:13

with like all these fertility stats.

22:15

Oh no and I keep sending

22:17

them to Robbie and he's like

22:19

Baby you have to stop sending

22:21

me these. It's like maybe that's

22:23

why they keep popping up my

22:26

algorithm Because you're talking about it?

22:28

Because I'm sending them to him.

22:30

Oh yeah, yeah, that's how it

22:32

works. That's actually exactly how the

22:34

algorithm works. Dang. So I'm feeding

22:36

my own algorithm. But yeah, I

22:38

like keep getting these like stats

22:40

where it's like age 30, you're

22:42

this percent likely to conceive at

22:44

the age 35, you're this percent

22:46

likely to conceive at age 40,

22:48

you're like 2% likely. I'm like,

22:50

okay. We'll see what happens. Like

22:52

you haven't even tried yet, correct?

22:54

But anyways, Rachel, I want her

22:56

to come on the podcast. Did

22:58

you ask her? Did you do

23:00

some work? There was like a

23:02

lot going on, but I tried

23:04

to like squeeze it in there.

23:06

Like, oh, like, well, I was

23:08

trying to be like, we should

23:10

do dinner type thing, not immediately,

23:13

like, come on the pod. She

23:15

already stunning in person. But you

23:17

know what's crazy? She was like,

23:19

it made me realize Instagram is

23:21

such a, Instagram and social media

23:23

in general is such a, not

23:25

reality because you see Rachel and

23:27

obviously she's doing like all these

23:29

amazing things and she has so

23:31

much love and support. But in

23:33

my head I was like, you

23:35

kind of forget like she's still

23:37

going through like a really hard

23:39

break up and it's just a

23:41

reminder of like, like she seemed

23:43

great and she seemed happy, but

23:45

there's also I was thinking about.

23:47

Wow, you see these people on

23:49

apps and TikTok and everything looks

23:51

amazing and you're almost like, wow,

23:53

she's thriving and she is and

23:55

she's going to do something hard,

23:57

you know, she looks sad. No,

24:00

she seems sad. I think She

24:02

was just like, I'm staying busy.

24:04

She just made the comment like

24:06

I'm staying busy. And I was

24:08

like, oh yeah, like you're literally

24:10

going through something really hard publicly.

24:12

And people weighing in and having

24:14

opinions on every little thing you

24:16

do. But she's stunning, Queen. You

24:18

know who else has opinions about

24:20

every little thing that she does?

24:22

Ellen Pompeo. Yeah, we're gonna get

24:24

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All right, we're back. So

30:49

Ellen Pompea was on

30:52

call her daddy. Yes. And

30:54

I don't listen. I'm not

30:56

a huge podcast girly, which I

30:58

know is funny, but like I

31:00

don't. Listen a lot. Like I

31:03

don't listen to every call her

31:05

daddy podcast. Um, same. But

31:07

the few that I've listened to

31:09

have all been really good. Like

31:11

I've been very entertained and like

31:13

loved the interview. I thought

31:15

this was one of Alex

31:17

Cooper's best interviews that she

31:19

conducted. Okay. I just felt like

31:22

she was I appreciated the fan

31:24

girl energy because you could tell

31:26

and she even posted. I've interviewed

31:28

so many people. This is the

31:30

First time I'm like really fan-girling

31:33

and I was I really felt

31:35

connected to Alex in that moment

31:37

You know like she's on such

31:39

a massive scale of what she does

31:41

and yet She had the same reaction

31:43

to Meredith grade that like we would

31:45

have to her you know I feel

31:48

like ours would be a little different

31:50

well we'd have to like I would

31:52

have to pick my ass off the

31:54

floor Yeah, but I'm saying we would

31:56

yeah, she was maybe a little more

31:58

polished and then we would Yeah, poised.

32:00

But I still could feel the

32:02

respect and energy that she had

32:04

for her. Yeah. But I was

32:06

so fascinated by so many parts

32:08

of the conversation because Ellen actually

32:10

shared a lot more than I

32:12

expected her to. Like what? She

32:14

just talked about behind the scene

32:16

stuff and like she talked about

32:19

the money thing of how she

32:21

was perceived when she... What her

32:23

remember when she went in she

32:25

she asked for a raise and

32:27

they gave a turn it was

32:29

I can't remember the number it

32:31

was 20 million an episode right

32:33

no not an episode or season

32:35

or was like an episode would

32:37

make her like 20 how many

32:39

episodes a year 20 million a

32:41

year regardless she went in and

32:43

asked for and she got it

32:45

and she said that her agent

32:47

or manager was like hey just

32:49

to be so you're prepared Not

32:51

everyone's going to support you when

32:53

this comes out. Like you're going

32:55

to have people that are like,

32:57

you don't deserve this. Why are

33:00

you getting this? And she was

33:02

like, I was so grateful that

33:04

he prepared me for that because

33:06

I was like, why wouldn't people

33:08

be happy for this? You know

33:10

what I found to be interesting?

33:12

I found it interesting that she

33:14

went to Shonda first and told

33:16

her how much she was going

33:18

to ask for. She didn't need

33:20

to do that. I thought that

33:22

was really cool and like classy.

33:24

You know, because she's like, I

33:26

wouldn't, I wouldn't be where I

33:28

am without Shonda. So I'd like

33:30

that little like kind of insight

33:32

into it. But also I just

33:34

find it so interesting because it's

33:36

like, you know, I talk a

33:38

big game of like, I'm a

33:41

modern woman, I do what I

33:43

want, I stand up for myself,

33:45

but like when it comes to

33:47

money, I do crumble, I'm like,

33:49

I have to stand stronger in

33:51

my convictions and I have to,

33:53

like, I think as women we

33:55

are made to feel like we

33:57

should be lucky. to be where

33:59

we are and we're not giving

34:01

information and we're kind of like

34:03

all of these things and it's

34:05

such it's been such a hard

34:07

thing because I'm like I'm so

34:09

grateful I love what I do

34:11

and so I've never wanted to

34:13

like push the boundary or ask

34:15

and like Ellen even said Sean

34:17

even said no one's just gonna

34:19

give it to you you have

34:22

to ask yeah and it's such

34:24

a good tricky thing and I

34:26

find myself like I found myself

34:28

being very inspired and like motivated

34:30

from that conversation because I feel

34:32

like I've been very passive leading

34:34

up to now. She also talked

34:36

about how Patrick Dempsey got paid

34:38

a significant amount more than her

34:40

and she was like no like

34:42

discredit to him like he everyone

34:44

knows who he is he had

34:46

a bigger name than me but

34:48

she was like he had 13

34:50

failed pilot pilots before Grace and

34:52

she was like And I was

34:54

the name of the show, like

34:56

my character was going to be

34:58

the name of the show. So

35:00

she was like, it wasn't about

35:03

what he got, it was more

35:05

so about that they didn't value

35:07

me at the same level that

35:09

they valued him when I was

35:11

like coming in as the namesake

35:13

of the show. I also loved

35:15

what she talked about parenthood because

35:17

she was saying that she didn't

35:19

necessarily want kids and her husband

35:21

wanted kids and she's like, well,

35:23

you should have talked to me

35:25

like before. we got married and

35:27

obviously she ended up having a

35:29

baby but she was telling Alex

35:31

because Alex was saying you know

35:33

I fear the the process of

35:35

juggling motherhood and my career and

35:37

am I gonna be dropped in

35:39

my career just because I become

35:41

a mom and have to focus

35:44

on something else. I think that's

35:46

something every woman thinks about. I

35:48

thought about it too. But I

35:50

loved Ellen was like it will

35:52

make you the best version of

35:54

yourself and you can't give a

35:56

hundred percent to both like it's

35:58

impossible because we're not made to

36:00

be able to do that but

36:02

you'll figure out the balance basically

36:04

and i thought i thought she

36:06

was so, um, she's tough, but

36:08

there was like a moment of

36:10

like nurturing to Alex that I

36:12

felt a lot throughout the interview

36:14

where I was like, wow, because

36:16

she even says she's, she's like

36:18

tough. She's not, um, no, I

36:20

imagine her being very tough. But

36:22

I think that that's something that,

36:25

I mean, it's crossed my mind

36:27

so many times. I haven't stepped

36:29

away. I haven't taken time off

36:31

of my. job, like not, I

36:33

don't really know how to explain

36:35

it for people that like aren't

36:37

like in it, but like I

36:39

haven't taken multiple days off of

36:41

my job where like our show

36:43

isn't on vacation. Does that make

36:45

sense? Until my wedding. And I've

36:47

been doing it for 15 years.

36:49

Yeah, it's crazy. And so when

36:51

you have a baby, you're maternity

36:53

leave you're out for months and

36:55

that's like really weird to like

36:57

wrap your head around you know

36:59

and like I feel like it's

37:01

something that a lot of women

37:03

in the industry don't necessarily share

37:06

and like talk about as much

37:08

because it is scary you're constantly

37:10

being told there's somebody at the

37:12

door you're knocking at the door

37:14

waiting to take your place you

37:16

know somebody younger and this and

37:18

that and like it's such a

37:20

it's such a Mm-hmm. Yeah. I

37:22

mean, it is. I was glad

37:24

that they touched on it. Yeah.

37:26

And I can't imagine, Alex probably

37:28

feels at times a bazillion. I

37:30

can't even imagine. You know what

37:32

I mean? She said that Georgia

37:34

Maui was her hardest death. Yes.

37:36

Which is a lot of people

37:38

sentiment. I don't necessarily agree. It

37:40

was the most like, it was

37:42

the first one that felt like,

37:44

oh my gosh, one of our

37:47

people is gone. I mean I

37:49

took Denny's a little bit harder

37:51

but it is what it is.

37:53

Denny was like in like four

37:55

episodes so I wasn't as attached

37:57

as we know and then she

37:59

said that Sandra

38:01

O was like her biggest heart like

38:03

the hardest episodes to film like that

38:06

when she left and I really she

38:08

thought that she was like I didn't

38:10

know that the show would go on

38:13

without her which I thought was really

38:15

interesting I know there's been how many

38:17

seasons since then like 15 or 10

38:20

like 10 seasons since her yeah it's

38:22

so crazy I loved the interview I

38:24

thought it was amazing I do think

38:27

it is interesting though the things that

38:29

she said about like Pick

38:31

me choose me love me and

38:33

how she didn't want to say

38:36

that line I know and then

38:38

it ended up being like one

38:40

of the most iconic lines in

38:42

gray anatomy history It's amazing because

38:44

Her mindset was why would she

38:46

beg for him and I thought

38:49

that was interesting which I get

38:51

and I totally understand like the

38:53

idea behind it, but also like

38:55

Everybody has felt that way. Do

38:57

you know what I mean? Yeah.

39:00

I don't care who you are.

39:02

I don't care how much you

39:04

want to stay here and say,

39:06

I would never beg for a

39:08

man. Like, we've all been there.

39:11

We've all done that at some

39:13

point. Do you know what I

39:15

mean? So it's like so relatable.

39:17

It was so relatable. And also,

39:19

I think people forget that at

39:22

that time, there wasn't this women

39:24

empowerment movement where it was like,

39:26

don't beg for me and love

39:28

me. But even back then, there

39:30

wasn't really that much, like, it

39:33

felt so normalized to hear a

39:35

woman be like, please choose me.

39:37

Yeah. Like, I don't think I

39:39

ever thought anything of it. But

39:41

now I think if I saw

39:44

it, I'd be like, girl, like,

39:46

come on. No, but like, but

39:48

you would say that, but like,

39:50

I'm sure, well, I don't know

39:52

if you've done that ever. I

39:55

mean, I don't know if you've

39:57

felt it. Yeah, I think everyone

39:59

has felt that. I felt at

40:01

times... Let us count the ways.

40:03

We don't have to rehash because

40:06

you're a married woman. I know.

40:08

I know. You picked chosen and

40:10

chosen every single day. Stunning. It

40:12

really is. 37 years and we

40:14

got here. There's this Australian podcast

40:17

and the host was asking if

40:19

you come from a guest family

40:21

or an ask family. So in

40:23

a guest family, you don't really

40:25

directly ask for anything ever, but

40:27

instead just sneak in a mention

40:30

of what you need. And then

40:32

in an ask family, you ask

40:34

what you need and leave it

40:36

to the other person to say

40:38

yes or no. So I come

40:41

from a guest family. Like there

40:43

was no direct communication. It was

40:45

kind of like, let me see

40:47

where the line is, like no.

40:50

Or just even maybe my personality,

40:53

I felt like it was like

40:55

maybe they can just guess what

40:57

I need. Almost like passive aggressive,

40:59

I guess. Uh-huh. What would you,

41:01

what would you say? I don't

41:03

understand the question. Did you come

41:05

from a family where you could

41:07

be direct and say what you

41:09

needed and you either got a

41:11

yes or no and it was

41:13

like very clear? Like I need

41:15

a cracker or like I need

41:18

a hug. Like I need a

41:20

hug. Or did you come from

41:22

a family where you were like...

41:24

Act out. I'm really sad, but

41:26

I want you to hug me

41:28

right now. But like not say

41:30

I'm, no, not say I'm really

41:32

sad. I want you to hug

41:34

me. Like that's a direct communication.

41:36

I'm saying that you act out

41:38

and you're being like moody and

41:40

defensive and instead of just being

41:43

like, I just need a hug.

41:45

You do all the things trying

41:47

to get them to guess what

41:49

you need. So I don't really

41:51

know the answer to that if

41:53

I'm being honest, but the way

41:55

that I act now. And I'm

41:57

like, why did I just say

41:59

it? Or like, why didn't I

42:01

just like ask him or tell

42:03

him exactly what I wanted? I'm

42:05

better about it now. Right. But

42:08

I would be very passive aggressive

42:10

in the early days. And I'm

42:12

like, why do I do that?

42:14

I still do that, but I

42:16

also have been working on it

42:18

because Haley is actually very direct.

42:20

So she'll be like, this is

42:22

what I'm feeling, this is what

42:24

I need to hear, can you

42:26

hug me? So I'm just like,

42:28

check, check, check what else do

42:30

you need? And then me, I'm

42:33

like, I'll act out. And then

42:35

I think, what am I trying

42:37

to get her to do? I'm

42:39

just going to try to communicate

42:41

it. Because it's exhausting. The guest

42:43

thing is exhausting. And I'm so

42:45

glad I feel grateful that she

42:47

isn't a guest person because that

42:49

would exhaust me. Yeah. So I

42:51

have to be more intentional about

42:53

not being a guest person because,

42:55

geez. Tough. Tough. Okay, Tanya had

42:58

some more behind-the-scenes things, which I

43:00

really felt like we covered everything,

43:02

but you have more to share

43:04

about the wedding. Well, it's like

43:06

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43:08

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43:10

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50:03

Okay, we're back. So what happened that

50:05

you didn't know about? So we're paying

50:07

the bills. This is like so fun

50:10

to do after a wedding. But we've

50:12

just kind of been like paying everything.

50:14

We have like one more like final

50:16

bill to pay and then that's it.

50:18

But like Robbie and I were like,

50:20

let's go through all of our contracts

50:22

with all the vendors and make sure

50:24

that they like delivered and like. what

50:26

we put in our contract is what

50:28

we got type of stuff. And my

50:30

wedding planner was like telling us all

50:33

these stories that happened the day of

50:35

that like we had no idea. Like

50:37

there was one thing that we were

50:39

like that we were very specific about

50:41

on the at the reception. We really

50:43

wanted I did not want a buffet.

50:45

And I was assured that we would

50:47

not have a buffet that it would

50:49

be like live grilling like live grilling

50:51

the fish and live grilling the thing

50:53

and when I showed up it was

50:56

like a buffet Yeah, that was literally

50:58

the only thing that I noticed a

51:00

clock at all. Everything else in my

51:02

opinion like could not have been It

51:04

was amazing. Yeah, but it's so funny

51:06

because my wedding planner was like telling

51:08

us all this stuff and I was

51:10

like oh my gosh, I had no

51:12

idea. It's like apparently the flowers that

51:14

came for the welcome party were like

51:16

completely different than what we had discussed.

51:18

We asked for like 18 bud bases

51:21

and they only brought like eight or

51:23

something. We asked for like an arrangement,

51:25

a different arrangement of candles. Like all

51:27

these like little things that like obviously

51:29

even now like looking back I'm like

51:31

oh yeah I did think that looked

51:33

a little different than what we had

51:35

discussed you know what I mean? And

51:37

then apparently like my bouquet came with

51:39

like all this greenery in it and

51:41

she like made them remake it remake

51:44

it. And all this stuff she didn't

51:46

tell me like I literally had no

51:48

idea the day of until now There

51:50

was something else she was saying that

51:52

like the the lot there was a

51:54

different vendor that was in charge like

51:56

the music and the lighting and everything

51:58

and she said that he was like

52:00

amazing and on top of it and

52:02

what else. She had to remind them

52:04

like you know how like when you

52:07

walk down the aisle and we had

52:09

like the hoopa the arc and I

52:11

don't know if you even know I

52:13

don't even know if anybody would notice

52:15

this but I noticed it. There was

52:17

all these beach chairs and like umbrellas

52:19

that were on the beach that are

52:21

for the guests. But they completely cleaned

52:23

the beach of all that stuff. So

52:25

it was literally just like clean beach

52:27

behind us. And I would have totally

52:29

forgot to remind them to do that.

52:32

And Marjorie, my wedding planner, was like,

52:34

I had to remind them to like,

52:36

you know, move all that stuff. Whoa.

52:38

Yeah. That's so crazy you say that

52:40

because I remember when we were walking

52:42

down the stairs on the aisle, I

52:44

was like, oh my gosh. It was

52:46

just like the beach. But if you

52:48

looked the day before, there was probably

52:50

a hundred lounge chairs and umbrellas, but

52:52

they moved everything out for the ceremony.

52:55

Wow. Which probably takes a long time.

52:57

It's probably not easy. No, no easy

52:59

feet. They turned it out for us.

53:01

They really did it. Yeah, I mean,

53:03

that's all that, that's pretty amazing that

53:05

your list, like the few, the minor

53:07

things that went wrong. Oh yeah. Oh

53:09

my gosh. And the things that like,

53:11

like, we like, cross our fingers and

53:13

we're like, hope this works out. Hope

53:15

this works out. worked out amazing. Like

53:18

the band, the DJ could not have

53:20

been more phenomenal. The late night snacks

53:22

they had at La Boquita, like the

53:24

chicken tenders and the fries and the

53:26

quesadillas, like life saving. My only regret

53:28

is that the dessert, when we tried

53:30

the dessert, it was like, orgasmic. Like

53:32

I was like, I don't even care

53:34

to have a cake because these desserts

53:36

are like life changing. Yeah. and they

53:38

came out at nine o'clock and I

53:40

don't think anybody knew they came out

53:43

and everybody was on the dance floor.

53:45

And I wish I would have like

53:47

put them on a tray and like

53:49

brought them to people because a lot

53:51

of people... and try it. And I've

53:53

been talking about these desserts for like

53:55

a month. You did. Yeah. And a

53:57

lot of people didn't get to try

53:59

them. When you're raging, there's no time

54:01

to eat dessert. I know. I know

54:03

when you're having like the time of

54:06

your life. I literally could probably watch

54:08

videos from my wedding every day until

54:10

I don't even know when it's going

54:12

to get old. It's amazing because normally

54:14

like when there's a lot of content

54:16

from one thing, like I feel like

54:18

people like people like, That's good. But

54:20

everyone's loving it. They're like more, more,

54:22

more, more. They wanted us to do

54:24

more episodes about the wedding. I'm like,

54:26

I don't know what else to say.

54:29

I mean, I still have like, I

54:31

still have so much to say. Oh

54:33

my gosh. I mean, just about the

54:35

planning and like stuff I could have

54:37

done, like stuff that I, I would

54:39

tell myself before all of it, you

54:41

know what I mean? Like, obviously it

54:43

all worked out and I'm so happy

54:45

and I'm so happy and I'm so

54:47

happy and I'm so happy and I'm

54:49

so happy and I'm so happy and

54:51

I'm so happy and I'm like, and

54:54

I'm so happy and I'm so happy

54:56

and I'm like, and I'm like, and

54:58

I'm like, and I'm like, and I'm

55:00

like, and I'm like, and I'm like,

55:02

and I'm like, and I'm like, and

55:04

I'm like, and I'm like, and I'm

55:06

like, and I'm like, and Yeah, there's

55:08

like, I mean, there's just like so

55:10

much that I learn. I mean, I'm

55:12

going to be so good for you

55:14

when your time comes because I'm just

55:17

going to be like a wealth of

55:19

knowledge. Like, you could literally, I'm like

55:21

chat cheapity for your wedding planning. Wow.

55:23

Yeah, you're welcome. You should compile a

55:25

list. And maybe we do do like

55:27

a bonus episode where we talk about

55:29

those things, about like the process of.

55:31

Going through that, but I do want

55:33

to give a shout out to Lisa.

55:35

She works for the hotel that we

55:37

got married at we got married at

55:40

Susaros Susaros del Cora Son, which means

55:42

whispers of the heart and She from

55:44

the minute we were like wanting to

55:46

tour the space I remember the girl

55:48

the woman who ended up meeting us

55:50

to give us this tour a rally

55:52

who was like our hand Boots on

55:54

the ground girl. She was like my

55:56

co-worker loves your podcast. She's a scrubber.

55:58

She's obsessed and I felt like every

56:00

time I came there they had like

56:02

butterflies in the room and they just

56:05

like really were just so sweet and

56:07

she sent me a really sweet email

56:09

the morning of the wedding and yeah

56:11

it was just like kind of cool

56:13

that like the venue we ended up

56:15

choosing we didn't choose it because obviously

56:17

because of scrubber but it's like the

56:19

fact that we chose it and that

56:21

a scrubber was like involved in all

56:23

of it and that there's like so

56:25

many butterflies on the property it just

56:28

all felt very serendipitous so shout out

56:30

to Lisa because she helped with the

56:32

bachelorette location as well. Also, I just

56:34

realized that, so I posted the link

56:36

to my dress. The name of the

56:38

color of my dress was champagne butterfly.

56:40

No. How crazy I didn't even know

56:42

people were texting me like the phone.

56:44

No butterflies were on your dress when

56:46

you bought it is absurd You can't

56:48

see it in the picture and I

56:50

said no in that picture But on

56:53

the website you can't see it when

56:55

you sent me the pictures of the

56:57

two options. I was like there's butterflies

56:59

in this dress This is absolutely the

57:01

one you have to wear but the

57:03

nameless champagne butterfly like are you joking?

57:05

And I was tight. I was searching

57:07

champagne dresses and it just it never

57:09

popped up I mean it was meant

57:11

to be. It was meant to be.

57:13

And everybody was like, I posted a

57:16

selfie with Paulina and you could see

57:18

it like, because I bought, I bought

57:20

all my bridesmaids, butterfly earrings. I was

57:22

like, well, I kind of bought them

57:24

for them, but yes, very significant. That's

57:26

right. All right, well. We have a

57:28

guest coming on Thursday. Yes, we do.

57:30

We have Heather Ray Elmusa coming in.

57:32

I'm so excited to talk to her.

57:34

So don't worry. Don't be sad. Be

57:36

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57:39

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57:41

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