Jeff Paterson: What is Tocchet thinking and what how will his decision affect the future of the roster

Jeff Paterson: What is Tocchet thinking and what how will his decision affect the future of the roster

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Jeff Paterson: What is Tocchet thinking and what how will his decision affect the future of the roster

Jeff Paterson: What is Tocchet thinking and what how will his decision affect the future of the roster

Jeff Paterson: What is Tocchet thinking and what how will his decision affect the future of the roster

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busy last night covering the age

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else. Abby Knocks and their playoffs. How

1:44

are you Jeff? Yeah, doing all right

1:46

and have been happy to cover the

1:48

abbotsford, although I feel like I missed

1:51

out. I was one of the few

1:53

that wasn't there at BC Place last

1:55

night. So great show. Good to see

1:57

and. Yeah, it's just, it's such a

2:00

cool environment to see BC Place packed

2:02

like that and to have the home

2:04

side come out and perform the way

2:06

that they did, the way that they

2:08

have all season. So yes, add me

2:11

to the list that is formerly in

2:13

the camp of White Caps 2025. Well,

2:15

and you know, a moment in Vancouver

2:17

sporting history that won't soon be forgotten.

2:19

And the other thing Jeff, we're talking

2:22

about, yes, a Gretske, Jordan, it is

2:24

a very short list in terms of.

2:26

Goats, yeah, goats who have played in

2:28

our city and Lido Messie, we ticked

2:31

the box last night. Yeah, I mean,

2:33

I remember all those years where there

2:35

was so much hand-wringing, and this predates

2:37

you, map, like you, around, you know,

2:39

the greater Vancouver Open and the year

2:42

Canada Championship, that it was always who

2:44

didn't come. And why, why didn't they

2:46

like Vancouver? And, you know, got some.

2:48

Well, we love Paine Stewart, right? Paine

2:50

showed up. Although you go back in

2:53

history and Sergio played here and VJ

2:55

Singh, and obviously Mike Weir had his

2:57

coming out party. Yeah, I think there

2:59

were some names, but obviously the guys

3:02

at the top that he didn't, and

3:04

that was always the storyline around that

3:06

golf tournament. So yeah, it's great when

3:08

one of the legends, a living legend,

3:10

comes to town and then, you know,

3:13

you know, now messy and take your

3:15

lumps and let's see what happens in

3:17

the second leg of this thing. So

3:19

I mean the big cat never played

3:22

the Air Canada Championship? The great... No,

3:24

no, that's too bad. Jeff, let's get

3:26

on to the big Canucks and then

3:28

we'll get on to the baby Canucks

3:30

who obviously have a huge one tomorrow

3:33

now in their playoff series, but we

3:35

talked to you Monday, here we are

3:37

Friday, it's been a week since Rick

3:39

Tocketus, met the media, gone home, and

3:41

apparently was supposed to come back here

3:44

to come back here to come back

3:46

here to Vancouver, here to Vancouver. Where

3:48

are you on terms of whether Tocket

3:50

will be back next season to coach

3:53

the Canucks? Where is he I suppose?

3:55

I saw reports that people were on

3:57

his flight yesterday. from Vegas if we

3:59

take those face value that he's back

4:01

in town now. You know, is that

4:04

to sign documents? Is that to pack

4:06

up his final belongings and get out

4:08

of here once and for all? Are

4:10

we in for a Friday afternoon news

4:13

drop? Wouldn't be the first time that

4:15

we have seen that. Look, I don't

4:17

think this can go a whole lot

4:19

longer. You heard Jim Rutherford's comments about...

4:21

kind of going outside their comfort zone

4:24

and obviously putting an offer in front

4:26

of Rick Tocket that's going to make

4:28

him the most highly compensated conducts coach

4:30

by a considerable margin if in fact

4:32

the two sides agree that that's the

4:35

path forward here so it feels like

4:37

it's in Rick Tocket's court like I

4:39

can't imagine that there's a whole lot

4:41

more negotiating to be done here and

4:44

I think that was the message that

4:46

I took from Rutherford was basically our

4:48

best and final is now in a

4:50

document in front of him and his

4:52

agent, and it's up to Rick to

4:55

decide if he wants to be here,

4:57

whether he likes the direction of this

4:59

hockey club, whether he thinks that he's

5:01

got options elsewhere, and to hear Rutherford

5:03

say they don't want a guy here

5:06

if he's got his mind elsewhere. And

5:08

so I can't see this getting through

5:10

the weekend, quite frankly. I feel like

5:12

time has been ticking here. Rutherford said

5:15

that he thought there would be a

5:17

resolution by the end of the end

5:19

of the week. It's now Friday. It's

5:21

now Friday. I'm not saying that this

5:23

is a hard and fast deadline. I

5:26

just, my sense is that this isn't

5:28

going to play out a whole lot

5:30

longer. So your eyebrows raise, you are

5:32

thinking something has gone awry? I mean,

5:35

I guess he could just come out

5:37

and say, I'm not coming back, but

5:39

if we haven't heard anything on Monday,

5:41

what's going to be your emotion? Oh,

5:43

I think the longer it goes, the

5:46

more Rick Taka must be considering options.

5:48

If this was the job that he

5:50

wanted to put a fair and reasonable

5:52

offer in front of him, then I

5:54

would think that this thing would have

5:57

been a fait accompli by now and

5:59

that Rick Tock, it would have been

6:01

announced as, you know, getting an extension

6:03

and moving forward here, you know, will

6:06

there be some subtle... to his coaching

6:08

staff if he's back. He himself said

6:10

that the part-time thing with Sergei Ghancher

6:12

wasn't necessarily working. So, you know, after

6:14

a season of disappointment like this one,

6:17

I kind of feel like... there ought

6:19

to be a little bit of change.

6:21

They're running it right back with the

6:23

same roster and the same coaches and

6:25

hoping that things are gonna go like

6:28

they did last year, you know, hope

6:30

can't ever be the plan. And so

6:32

we'll see where it goes. But I

6:34

just think the longer this thing goes,

6:37

it feels to me. And look, it's

6:39

just a hutch, right? It's a professional

6:41

hunch having been at this for a

6:43

while. The longer it goes, the more

6:45

I feel like something has happened here

6:48

to further the disconnect between these two

6:50

parties. The way he spoke a week

6:52

ago was somewhat unprepared on some of

6:54

the future questions, but then on things

6:57

like PD, of course, he weighs in

6:59

on what that player needs to do.

7:01

And so that sort of speaks like

7:03

a coach that still anticipates having that

7:05

player. All that feeds the why. If

7:08

he doesn't come back, try to get

7:10

inside the coach's head. What do you

7:12

think would be the chief reason why

7:14

Rick Tocket doesn't return to Connect Side

7:16

coach? My sense is that he views

7:19

the big picture the way that a

7:21

lot of people do, and certainly the

7:23

uncertainty around Queen Hughes, as much as

7:25

Hughes has gone to bat for him

7:28

and Tocket has spoken glowingly about the

7:30

player and the captain, if Quinn leaves,

7:32

I mean, that obviously changes the conversation

7:34

on so many levels, but beyond that,

7:36

I just think that this path forward.

7:39

and Rutherford himself talked about how difficult

7:41

it's going to be, I'm not sure

7:43

that the Canucks can accomplish everything on

7:45

their wish list in one-off season that's

7:48

going to get them to the places

7:50

they want to be. So I kind

7:52

of feel like this is going to

7:54

be a multi-step process. It may be

7:56

a couple of years of them spinning

7:59

their wheels. And does Rick talk about

8:01

that if he knows that he's got

8:03

options elsewhere that can take him to

8:05

a place that is closer to contending?

8:07

This isn't starting from. scratch they haven't

8:10

burned this thing down entirely but you

8:12

know if they can't get out there

8:14

and get rid of the players that

8:16

he's looking for the players that he

8:19

thinks that he can win with here

8:21

in the summertime what does next season

8:23

look like what does the season after

8:25

that look like and that takes us

8:27

up obviously to the expiration of Quinn

8:30

Hughes contract so I think like my

8:32

answer would be just sort of the

8:34

longer term vision here and the outlook

8:36

for this hockey club if he's got

8:38

some reservations if he thinks that there's

8:41

a softer landing spot somewhere else that

8:43

can put him closer to contention. Yeah

8:45

and then there are those other jobs

8:47

Jeff how attractive do you think the

8:50

field is of the NHL coaching vacancies

8:52

for the moment and which ones talk

8:54

it may factor into? Yeah you know

8:56

I look around and I doubt that

8:58

we're done I always think that a

9:01

team that underachives and flames out in

9:03

the first round of the playoffs is

9:05

likely to make a change. So the

9:07

list that we've got may not be

9:10

completely complete. Obviously, you know, if you're

9:12

looking at big markets and high profile,

9:14

you got the Rangers front and center.

9:16

We all know the connections to Philadelphia

9:18

and a lot of people had written

9:21

that one down in some ink. And

9:23

perhaps it still goes that direction. When

9:25

I look at the openings though, you

9:27

know, the sneaky one to me is

9:29

Anaheim because I really am a believer

9:32

that that team is about to launch

9:34

and did some really good things already

9:36

this season. And so, not that Rick

9:38

Tocket is a shrinking violet in any

9:41

way and it doesn't shy away from

9:43

the media coverage, but just in terms

9:45

of a place you could go and

9:47

work, punch the clock. but you could

9:49

also live a pretty good life in

9:52

the California sunshine and not deal with

9:54

some of the things in the distractions

9:56

that some of these other jobs present.

9:58

And I just think that they've done

10:00

a nice job in Anaheim in terms

10:03

of stockpiling young talent now. you know,

10:05

five years ago, we thought the Canucks

10:07

had done a nice job of stock

10:09

buying young talent. That doesn't always pan

10:12

out. But, you know, I like a

10:14

lot of what the Ducks have put

10:16

together there. They've got, they had the

10:18

third overall pick last year, Bennett Seneca,

10:20

who's going to join them in short

10:23

order, and they're going to get another

10:25

decent draft pick this year if in

10:27

fact they use it, at some point,

10:29

you know, you got to roll all

10:32

that potential together and make some real

10:34

steps forward. Jackson LeCoam has emerged already

10:36

as a terrific young defenseman. They've got

10:38

other pieces there on the back end

10:40

and then up front, you know, Leo

10:43

Carlson and Mason McTavish and, uh, Carter

10:45

Gocce had a nice working season, got

10:47

to 20. So, you know, I, for

10:49

me, I like the look of that

10:51

Anaheim job and I'm curious to see

10:54

what direction the ducks go with it.

10:56

Did know, if talk, it does leave,

10:58

is Manny Melhotra, be a part of

11:00

an audition going on? here in Abbotsford.

11:03

Yeah, I mean, I think he'd be

11:05

in the running. People would say, hey,

11:07

you know, first year as a head

11:09

coach at any level, but look, this

11:11

guy's been around the game, obviously as

11:14

a player, and his apprentice as an

11:16

assistant coach here and in Toronto. That

11:18

part doesn't scare me off. Manny was

11:20

a thoughtful guy as a player. I

11:22

think, you know, he sees the game,

11:25

he thinks the game. particularly well, done

11:27

an incredible job down in Abbotsford this

11:29

year. So yeah, but I say that

11:31

and I thought Jeremy Carlton was sort

11:34

of being groomed within the system to

11:36

perhaps get an opportunity. That didn't happen,

11:38

so he bolted. And I'm not saying

11:40

that Manny's going to bolt, but I

11:42

think the job that Manny's done down

11:45

on the farm this year certainly would

11:47

get the attention of other teams and

11:49

organizations around the National Hockey League. And

11:51

when I look at a Spencer Carbury

11:54

who... I didn't have a huge profile,

11:56

but just did quietly climb the ranks

11:58

and had done good work and by

12:00

reputation. gets the opportunity. And guys, this

12:02

is how crazy the coaching carousel is

12:05

in the National Hockey League these

12:07

days. Spencer Carberry isn't even at

12:09

the end of his second season

12:11

as the head coach of the

12:14

Washington Capitol. He's gonna be the coach

12:16

of the year. He's out tenth in

12:18

seniority in the National Hockey

12:20

League. Yeah, crazy. The churn is

12:22

ridiculous. And given to others responsible for

12:25

a lot of that. Well, yeah, I

12:27

mean, we're talking, it resides in the

12:29

top 10 now, and he's only been

12:31

two and a half years on the

12:33

job. But I was just looking at

12:35

the list the other day, Carverie and

12:37

Andrew Brunette were both hired at the

12:39

end of the hockey season coming up

12:41

on two years ago. they're 10th and

12:43

11th in tenure right now among all

12:45

active head coaches. So, but the Canucks

12:47

aren't looking for a finishing coach. You

12:49

know, like the Oilers, for instance, if

12:52

they, if they were to move on

12:54

after an early departure, like they're not

12:56

looking for that coach to finally give

12:58

them the Stanley Cup that they've been

13:00

knocking on the door for. Like, Manny

13:02

is not a crazy suggestion. It's, it's

13:04

not the season guy maybe that some

13:06

of the veteran Canucks would be loving,

13:08

but I mean, Yeah, and look, this

13:10

is a different scenario for the Vancouver

13:12

Canucks where they've made their pitch to

13:14

the guy that they want to remain

13:17

in the job here. It's the coach

13:19

that has the decision to make. If

13:21

Richtaka decides to go elsewhere though,

13:23

the next guy will be the fourth head

13:25

coach in less than four years. And we

13:27

watched the Edmonton Oilers, we all mocked the

13:30

Edmonton Oilers from the outside not that long

13:32

ago, where they did this basically a, you

13:34

know... forget coach of the year, it was

13:36

coach for a year. And they really, they

13:39

rolled through a ridiculous roster of head coaches.

13:41

At some point, it's not the coach. You know,

13:43

they were hiring qualified coaches in Edmonton. And

13:45

at some point, it's the roster construction,

13:47

it's on the players themselves, the coach

13:50

obviously has a role in all of

13:52

that. But I just don't like the

13:54

fact that, you know, this management group

13:57

has always talked about alignment from top

13:59

to bottom. And if Rick talking

14:01

moves on, they're going to be on

14:03

a fourth coach. Quinn Hughes is going

14:05

to have his fourth coach in four

14:07

years. Like how do you move forward

14:09

as an organization when the messaging, the

14:12

voices are just in constant state of

14:14

flux? Let's move on to Abby after

14:16

a nice opening your game and their

14:18

best of three. But what happened last

14:20

night that makes it now a little

14:22

bit dicey after this fabulous run? And

14:24

this is the nature of a... of

14:27

a quick best of three to start

14:29

the playoffs in the AHL all of

14:31

a sudden it's do or die. Yeah,

14:33

it's the fear of every team I

14:35

think in a best of three is

14:37

running into a red hot golden or

14:39

and give Tucson credit. You know, they

14:42

started one guy on Wednesday night and

14:44

made the started one guy on Wednesday

14:46

night and made the change going back

14:48

to back. Manima Holtra stuck with Archer,

14:50

Silas and you know, Silas is actually

14:52

pretty good in the third period last.

14:54

And the biggest disappointment to me was

14:57

the way they played the third period.

14:59

You think about score effects. Tucson the

15:01

other night had pushed to get within

15:03

one and then had that penalty shot.

15:05

Avetford went awfully quietly in the third

15:07

period. Got out shot 12 to 8

15:09

after holding a 31 20 edge through

15:12

the first 40 minutes. So the story

15:14

of the night was 17 shots in

15:16

the first period. They were all over

15:18

Tucson and couldn't score. and had the

15:20

first four power plays in the night

15:22

where they cashed in twice in the

15:24

opener they end up going over five

15:27

with a man advantage and you know

15:29

it's a short series so there's still

15:31

time but there's not time after Saturday

15:33

unless some of these guys that played

15:35

and produced in the National Hockey League

15:37

for the Vancouver Canucks this year you

15:39

know they're the ones that you have

15:42

to look at and I thought Max

15:44

Asin was the best skater on the

15:46

ice for Abbots for last night but

15:48

he didn't figure in the scoring and

15:50

the scoring and so they need Max

15:52

Asin to be a difference maker. At

15:54

two, at two, I thought was awfully

15:57

quiet and has been really through the

15:59

first couple games of this series. So

16:01

Abbott scored five goals total. Sammy Blair

16:03

had two on Wednesday night, Linus Carl.

16:05

has scored in each of them, but

16:07

you know, then you look at Sassan

16:09

and Baines and Ratu obviously. Jonathan Leckermacki

16:12

has been remarkably quiet and a little

16:14

concerning since getting sent back down this

16:16

latest time has gone pointless in six

16:18

games. You know, do I expect him

16:20

to single-handedly win them a series? No,

16:22

but when you're looking at guys that

16:24

can... You know, be game breakers. That's

16:27

certainly what the Vancouver Canucks are hoping

16:29

he developed into. He's been quiet. And

16:31

quite frankly, you know, and I'm like

16:33

you guys, like through the regular season,

16:35

we're all locked in on the Vancouver

16:37

Canucks. So I've watched Abby from afar,

16:39

most of it in box scores, though.

16:41

But watching closely here, Danila Klamovich led

16:44

the team with 25 goals in the

16:46

regular season, doesn't have a shot on

16:48

goal through two games. Now, as Dave

16:50

Hall pointed out on ranked on ranked

16:52

quite last night, Klamovich was a constant

16:54

nabbage for it all season when everybody

16:56

else was getting called up. So he

16:59

played more games than just about anybody

17:01

else at the AHL level this year,

17:03

and he also played in an elevated

17:05

role. So, you know, we think, oh,

17:07

they're just going to airlift all these

17:09

guys that were in the NHL, and

17:11

they're going to plunk them back in

17:14

and look out, but there's sort of

17:16

that trickle-down effect that some of the

17:18

guys that had done a great job

17:20

for Mannymail ultra and had picked up

17:22

the slack and been productive and been

17:24

productive. Now they're playing in reduced roles

17:26

and I think Klimovich is one of

17:29

those guys, but he just hasn't looked

17:31

dangerous at all through the first couple

17:33

of games here. Archer She loves was

17:35

the goalie of record again last night

17:37

Jeff. Is that it? Is Manny riding

17:39

his guy now? He's already the guy

17:41

we're gonna see total appeal. Yeah, my

17:44

sense is that you've come this far

17:46

with Arthur She loves who was winning

17:48

games for the Vancouver Canucks in the

17:50

playoffs at this time last year. It

17:52

got the win, the big penalty shot,

17:54

the big penalty shot save and the

17:56

big penalty shot save and the final

17:59

shot save and the final shot save

18:01

in the final minute on Wednesday shot

18:03

save in the final minute on Wednesday.

18:05

The two-nothing goal last night didn't love

18:07

a clean look from the face-off circle

18:09

that I thought he probably could have

18:11

stopped, but other than that, you know,

18:14

Jackson Stobber outplayed. Jackson Stobber was the

18:16

best goaltender on the ice last night.

18:18

Jackson Stobber served as the backup to

18:20

Carol Vemelka in Utah for much of

18:22

the season played a few NHL games,

18:24

but... give you a Tucson's coach credit.

18:26

He made the call there, made the

18:29

right call to go to his other

18:31

guy. And I don't think there's much

18:33

doubt that the conductor can see Jackson

18:35

Stobber again on Saturday now in this

18:37

deciding game. And so I think Manny

18:39

would have been happy enough with 17

18:41

first period shots and 14 more in

18:44

the second. But Blake, how many times

18:46

have we done post game where we've

18:48

said, you don't want to spend the

18:50

summer talking about all those chances? Don't

18:52

tell me about the chances you created.

18:54

Tell me about the goals restored. And

18:56

that's kind of where. Those talk chances,

18:59

right? Oh for sure. Stock goals. And

19:01

so that's where I said, like Max

19:03

Hasson was making things happen, that part

19:05

you like, but now how do you

19:07

convert? When the chips are down and

19:09

in a short series like this one,

19:11

Saturday night, a weekend in the Fraser

19:14

Valley, I hope that people will get

19:16

behind the hockey club because 3670 on

19:18

opening night. 300 more in there just

19:20

over 4,000 last night, but again, I

19:22

think that's been part of the story

19:24

here. A lot of empty seats. So

19:26

it's winter go home for the summer

19:28

here. So it's hope they get a

19:31

real home ice advantage. Sure, do or

19:33

not games on a Saturday. I've got

19:35

high hopes. And just to be clear,

19:37

Jeff, this is an opener of best

19:39

of three, but you get a chance

19:41

to breathe. If you win this game,

19:43

not only do you move on, but

19:46

it's a best of five, correct in

19:48

the next round? Next round of best

19:50

of five. And then the AHL playoffs

19:52

finished with two best of seven. And

19:54

this first round is a little bit

19:56

screwy. Colorado won the division. They've got

19:58

the buy here and there are three

20:01

series going on. One of the other

20:03

ones could go until Monday. So yeah,

20:05

in terms of if Abbotsford advances on

20:07

Saturday, the next round we don't know

20:09

when it would start, but it probably

20:11

wouldn't start until closer to next weekend.

20:13

So that would give them a little

20:16

bit of breathing room and some downtime

20:18

here. But you sort of set it

20:20

up with your first question to me.

20:22

This is a team. that has now

20:24

lost twice outright in its last 20

20:26

hockey games. Like there's 17, 2, and

20:28

1 that has to make. They've done

20:31

so well down the stretch here, basically

20:33

unbeatable, and I guess you like the

20:35

fact that, you know, they have risen

20:37

to the challenge and sort of found

20:39

ways to persevere, but they really haven't

20:41

faced a lot of adversity either. You

20:43

know, they got on this hot streak

20:46

and there was really no looking back.

20:48

I mean, their adversity came with the

20:50

players that weren't available to them because

20:52

they were playing at the National Hockey

20:54

League. Yeah, as much as you play

20:56

for home ice, and that's the other

20:58

thing too, they're the second seed here

21:01

in the Pacific. So if they advance,

21:03

they're going to start the next round

21:05

at home as well. They know that

21:07

much. So, you know, no road trips

21:09

for the Abbotsford Canucks for a while,

21:11

as long as they get a victory

21:13

on Saturday night. So, yeah, I think

21:16

with Manny and his goal tending, yes,

21:18

Nikita Tolapillo was there, Tolapillo had more

21:20

winds than archerage silos, but if there.

21:22

you know at that point you sort

21:24

of have options and try to figure

21:26

out who's got the hotter hand but

21:28

uh... total people hasn't played any games

21:31

since uh... finishing up in the national

21:33

hockey league so i i do think

21:35

it's gonna be our two syllabs and

21:37

again i'm not hanging the loss on

21:39

him uh... i thought he was pretty

21:41

good in the third period it's just

21:43

that uh... they didn't do anything in

21:46

the way of push last night to

21:48

get back in that hockey game well

21:50

and really this is the best case

21:52

scenario this She loves was the head

21:54

of Tolapillo and others going into the

21:56

season. If you can get Archer, she

21:58

loves back to being a capable NHL

22:01

goal tending. a goaltender that would give

22:03

the franchise perhaps some options through the

22:05

summer. So I think you're rooting very

22:07

hard for Abby here, but you're also

22:09

rooting for Archer She loves to shine

22:11

and potentially give the Canucks an option.

22:13

I mean, before we let you go,

22:15

is it the last stand for Archer

22:18

She loves? Like, if it fizzles out

22:20

tonight and they lose games, like, are

22:22

you kind of done with Archer She

22:24

loves as a, with Archer She loves

22:26

as a goaltony prospect on this team?

22:28

Well, there's so many moving moving parts

22:30

to this. was obvious. Rick Tockin had

22:33

no trust or faith in art or

22:35

silly. He wouldn't play them. You know,

22:37

down the stretch. And that was part

22:39

of the story here. And had there

22:41

been more time, it was a question

22:43

that I wanted to put to Patrick

22:45

Alvin, quite frankly, at the press conference

22:48

was, you know, there were two stretches.

22:50

There was from mid-November until factory Demko

22:52

made his season debut, and then there

22:54

was again from the Four nations when

22:56

Demko was hurt and nobody knew. there

22:58

wasn't a trust factor there that you

23:00

had a third stringer. Now you never

23:03

go into your season thinking, oh, how

23:05

much are we going to rely on

23:07

the third stringer? But I think the

23:09

Vancouver Canucks learned a pretty difficult lesson

23:11

here where every point mattered in the

23:13

standings that they didn't have a viable

23:15

third string guy that they could trust

23:18

and how quickly things changed from the

23:20

Artie Party and selling the Paisley pink

23:22

shirts a year ago to... you know

23:24

only being able to beat the Chicago

23:26

Blackhawks there was only two wins here

23:28

so if talk it's back what changed

23:30

if they run into injury problems at

23:33

the NHL level like do they need

23:35

another goaltender we've talked about how many

23:37

guys are under contract for next year

23:39

like the goal tending department is pretty

23:41

crowded for the Vancouver Canucks I don't

23:43

see them going outside the organization but

23:45

I just wonder if either Lincoln or

23:48

Demco and look with Demco's history it's

23:50

quite plausible. that there are going to

23:52

be stretches where you need a third

23:54

option, what's going to change? Is it

23:56

the fact? He's got to change. Already's

23:58

got to change. Already's got to change,

24:00

to change talk, it's mine. And that's

24:03

the opportunity. I guess that's in front

24:05

of them here in the age of

24:07

playoffs. But is winning a third game

24:09

of Best of Three? Is that enough?

24:11

Or would it take a lengthy national?

24:13

hockey league games. There's still runway ahead

24:15

of Archer, she loves here. And it's

24:18

goalies, goalies to develop a little later

24:20

too. Absolutely. I just, when I ask

24:22

the question, like, what would be different?

24:24

I do. I wonder now that Tolopillo

24:26

has played in the NHL, although his

24:28

win came against San Jose. So, you

24:30

know, their wins from third stringers this

24:33

year were two against Chicago and one

24:35

against the San Jose sharks. But I

24:37

do wonder if next year would they

24:39

turn to Tolopillo sooner? Like, would, is

24:41

it cut and dry that Shuloves is

24:43

the number three guy? And then... There's

24:45

the Yuri Patera factor in all of

24:48

this who, you know, he got injured

24:50

early in Abbotsford, but there's a guy

24:52

they signed sort of to be that

24:54

buffer. He had played seven or eight

24:56

NHL games in the Vegas system. Had

24:58

he been healthy, might he have been

25:00

an option at the very least just

25:03

to give them a couple of games?

25:05

He's got a year left too. He's

25:07

got a year left. And of course

25:09

we dare to dream on Thai Young

25:11

and Akukuskenvo. So, yeah. Let's book in

25:13

this hit. Talked about Messie at the

25:15

Top. Reference, Jordan, Gretzky. Tiger never played

25:17

here. Just did the research, Jeff. Jack

25:20

Nicholas played here. The 1966, Canadian Open

25:22

at Shawnessie, won by Don Massingale. Chi

25:24

Chi-Rodriguez was the runner-up. You cover that

25:26

event? I did not cover that one.

25:28

It's my understanding that a young Tiger

25:30

Woods did play around at Olympic view

25:32

in Victoria. At some point in his

25:35

teenage years. So he's touched British Columbia.

25:37

He's played some golf here. Obviously those

25:39

skins games as well. Remember the skins

25:41

game? It was north and Predator Ridge.

25:43

Like Phil Nicholson played Predator Ridge. I

25:45

think it was Phil and Sergio Garcia

25:47

among others. So yeah, we've had some

25:50

notable names come through. But in terms

25:52

of that era when all the big

25:54

stars were in the NSL. Awesome stuff

25:56

Jeff will be watching and listening to

25:58

rink-wide Vancouver Saturday after the Abbotsford game

26:00

and we'll catch up on Monday my

26:02

friend. Thank you. Yeah, I'll be going

26:05

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26:07

thanks for Warriors on

26:09

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