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smashed. This is episode 95 and

1:33

people. We have a guest here

1:35

this week that is responsible for

1:37

most of the 35 year friendship

1:39

that Zeus and I have, responsible

1:41

for endless endless conversations, sound bits,

1:43

quotes, clips, everything. The man behind

1:46

the jerky boys is with us

1:48

this week, the one and only

1:50

Johnny Brennan. Johnny Brennan. What's up

1:53

brother? Hey, how's it going guys? How's

1:55

everything? How's everything? Everything. I'm waiting for

1:57

you to go, hey, what's up there

1:59

for... I'm looking for paint. Hey, what

2:01

do you say to have fruit

2:03

cake? So here's the thing guys.

2:06

Behind the scenes, you know, obviously

2:08

our sense of humor, you know

2:10

we drop jerky boy comments constantly

2:12

now going on seven years on

2:14

this podcast. To be able to

2:16

finally talk with Johnny and and

2:18

get him to come on the

2:20

show, but not only that, he's

2:22

been kind enough. He's like, give

2:24

me a call. Let you know,

2:26

he wants to fill us out

2:28

and see, do I want to

2:30

talk to talk to these guys.

2:32

I can't tell you what a

2:34

thrill is to talk to him

2:37

and find out how down earth

2:39

and how cool he is. But

2:41

every second he says something, I

2:43

feel like I'm waiting for a

2:45

skit to come out, or one

2:47

of his comments, or my mind

2:49

goes to one of the great

2:51

fucking tracks that he has on

2:53

his albums. And it's been incredible.

2:55

You guys will see what I

2:57

mean. When you hear Johnny Talk,

2:59

you're like... Oh, he's doing a

3:01

roofing bit. Oh, he's doing, uh,

3:03

I can fall down the stairs

3:05

and bring my shoes. It's been

3:07

an incredible thrill to talk to

3:10

you prior to getting here. Now

3:12

that we have you here, um,

3:14

and I just, one of the

3:16

things I want to ask you,

3:18

but this time on the record,

3:20

one of the first things I

3:22

want to ask you is, we

3:24

said to you, like, I feel

3:26

bad, like I don't want to

3:28

do your impressions back to you,

3:30

like, because, but that's all we

3:32

do, me and Tom doing, but

3:34

how does that feel for you

3:36

when you have people going, hey,

3:38

what's up there, fruit cake, hey,

3:41

what's up there, sloppy, you know,

3:43

whatever. I can't tell you, I

3:45

mean, it's amazing, don't forget now,

3:47

you're going on, this is what,

3:49

five decades now, you know, the

3:51

jerky boys, and it's an amazing

3:53

thing. It comes from all different

3:55

walks of life. You know, I

3:57

mean, I've got friends that I've

3:59

made and people that you'd never,

4:01

and people that I've heard of

4:03

that are huge fans. I mean,

4:05

anyone from Russell Crow to Inke

4:07

Momstein, the guitar player. So, and

4:09

I mean, Cheryl Crow, Cheryl Crow

4:11

actually said, she came up to

4:14

me at the Grammys and she

4:16

said, Johnny, you know what? You

4:18

are my bus music. So I

4:20

mean, how cool is that? I

4:22

mean, you know, so because that's

4:24

great. And I still talk about

4:26

that to this day because that's

4:28

one of the coolest things that,

4:30

you know, because, you know, here

4:32

you've got a big star. And

4:34

on the bus, they don't listen

4:36

to music. They listen to the

4:38

jerky every band you can imagine.

4:40

You know, you could go back

4:42

through history here, you got sublime,

4:44

you got green day, any band

4:47

that you can name, and the

4:49

jerky boys has been somehow interwoven

4:51

or part of it. And don't

4:53

forget years ago, I was on

4:55

the charts with some of the

4:57

biggest bands that ever were in

4:59

the rock and roll game. So

5:01

when people come back to me...

5:03

with you know, hey Johnny, wait,

5:05

rubber neck, what's up there, sizzle

5:07

chest, you know, it means the

5:09

world to me because these are

5:11

characters that I created and people

5:13

freaking love them. Yeah, Johnny, so

5:15

Zeus and I met in college

5:18

1991, two things brought us together,

5:20

the band KISS and Jerki Boys.

5:22

We had the cassettes and this

5:24

is... So this is 91, obviously

5:26

this is obviously pre-internet, pre-smart phone,

5:28

pre-everything. We put the cassette in,

5:30

and I hate to sound mellow

5:32

dramatic, but it literally changed our

5:34

fucking lives, dude. I mean, we

5:36

couldn't get enough, and then we

5:38

started going down the rabbit hole

5:40

with like red in the two

5:42

bar and like, and all that

5:44

stuff. How does something like that,

5:46

I mean, it's such a snapshot

5:48

of a time that we'll never

5:51

have again because you can't do

5:53

the jerky boys now anymore? You

5:55

can't, you can't, you can't exist

5:57

really. Right, no, you're right. I

5:59

mean, I can still do the

6:01

jerky boys, but that's a whole

6:03

different bowl of wax. I mean,

6:05

I just did my album, my

6:07

most recent album, and I released

6:09

it right at the beginning of

6:11

2021. And I named it the

6:13

Jerky Boys after its namesake that

6:15

came out 30 plus years before.

6:17

And what do you think happened

6:19

the next day? It was number

6:22

one on Apple, you know, eye

6:24

music, all of these different platforms.

6:26

It was number one. And in

6:28

the next couple of days after

6:30

that, it was dragging all my

6:32

other albums back up the charts

6:34

again. the jerky boys, but you're

6:36

right, it wasn't the same. And

6:38

the medium, everything I did was

6:40

completely different. I did a lot

6:42

of it in the car because

6:44

of all the wacky shit that

6:46

was going on at the time.

6:48

It was the COVID deal and

6:50

it was just a lot of

6:52

different things going on, but you're

6:55

right. Where I would. When I

6:57

had to make Jerky Boys 2,

6:59

for example, which is one of

7:01

the greatest comedy albums, it is

7:03

actually one of the top five

7:05

comedy albums in history. But when

7:07

I had to make that, when

7:09

I had to make that record,

7:11

we needed, like, I don't even

7:13

remember the number, but it was

7:15

like 14 or 15 skits, because

7:17

I still had some left over

7:19

from the bootleg, but I still

7:21

had to come up with some

7:23

new bits that I say, you

7:26

know what, let me. And I

7:28

think I sat down and did

7:30

14 or 15 cuts. Kamal and

7:32

I, we sat down, I believe

7:34

some of it was in Florida,

7:36

some of it may have been

7:38

in New York, but it's like

7:40

instantly sit down, play and record.

7:42

boom boxes going, the speaker phones

7:44

going, and it was one, two,

7:46

three, four, every, and I never

7:48

did, I never did two of

7:50

anything. It was one of this,

7:52

one of that, one of this,

7:54

and I swear to God must

7:56

have had the whole thing together

7:59

in less than three hours, and

8:01

it was all, it was all

8:03

done and ready to go. So

8:05

the difference, the difference, now that

8:07

was jerky boys too, and you're

8:09

talking 35, whatever it was years

8:11

ago. Now, with the one I

8:13

recorded at the beginning of 21,

8:15

the end of 2020, I must

8:17

have had to do anywhere between

8:19

10 and 30, maybe 25 or

8:21

30 phone calls before I would

8:23

get somebody, somebody to try to

8:25

have this engaged. Yeah, to engage.

8:27

And it wasn't done with my

8:29

old, my boom box. two phones.

8:32

So it was done with cell

8:34

phone and a phone that I

8:36

had a guy of mine in

8:38

Long Island who's really good with

8:40

all this stuff. He rigged up,

8:42

he Jerry rigged the phone so

8:44

that I could have incoming, you

8:46

know, outgoing and the phone would

8:48

tape anything coming in going out.

8:50

And that's how I put together

8:52

the latest album. You know, a

8:54

lot of people wouldn't know that.

8:56

And if I, you know, didn't

8:58

say anything, but it's a very

9:00

interesting point you make. It's the

9:03

world is not the same and

9:05

people the one good thing I

9:07

guess the journey voice has going

9:09

for it is because it was

9:11

everything was bang bang bang bang

9:13

bang everything was fast even no

9:15

matter what character you pick everything

9:17

was fast and the attention span

9:19

today seems to be like anywhere

9:21

between five and eight seconds so

9:23

if you're not if you're not

9:25

hitting them fast it's like boom

9:27

and you know everything today is

9:29

in the phone So if you're

9:31

not hitting them fast, it's scroll,

9:33

scroll, scroll, scroll. People don't stick

9:36

around. So it is, it's pretty

9:38

amazing, but you're right, it's not

9:40

the same, and it doesn't feel

9:42

the same, but the comedy, that

9:44

that particular brand, that jerky boy's

9:46

humor, is like nothing else. Nothing

9:48

else has ever ever been like

9:50

it. No, we talked a little

9:52

bit about this, and there have

9:54

been a lot of imitators. It's

9:56

not the same fucking thing. I

9:58

find a lot of the humor

10:00

is the other people. on the

10:02

other side. Like the bewilderment or

10:04

the like the aspiration or the

10:07

one specific and I need my

10:09

our audience knows this. I use

10:11

two parts of this. So every

10:13

time I say, oh, you know,

10:15

catch us on YouTube, I always

10:17

play. the Saul's New Beach lady,

10:19

where she goes, you do! And

10:21

then the other part, where you're

10:23

like, what's your name? And you're

10:25

like, Saul, and she can't fucking

10:27

get it. And she's like, Star?

10:29

It's the Star? So when I'm

10:31

like, give us one of these

10:33

five star reviews, I always play

10:35

the clip of her going Star?

10:37

Star? Star? Star? And you can

10:40

tell in her voice, she was

10:42

a lovely old lady. Oh, totally.

10:44

I mean, this is the thing

10:46

that's been keeping me up for

10:48

35 years and stuff. Always wanted

10:50

to ask you these questions. That

10:52

specific fucking lady. This somebody's mom.

10:54

Did you know the, like, what's

10:56

the background? Is this a friend

10:58

of yours that you fucked with?

11:00

Or like, because that fucking lady,

11:02

I felt like you should call

11:04

her back after you hung up.

11:06

I think it's an insulting thing.

11:08

And you'll have for me. Don't

11:10

you worry about that. Yeah, don't

11:13

you worry about that? So here's

11:15

the beautiful thing. That I got

11:17

a handful throughout the jerky boys,

11:19

you know, a couple of years

11:21

there. I got a handful of

11:23

inside jobs. Okay. So people telling

11:25

you call this person? Well, yeah,

11:27

but it wasn't just regular people

11:29

off the street or fans. They

11:31

were fans, but they were in

11:33

the industry. So, um... this guy

11:35

Jim and if you know I

11:37

never him yeah it's always with

11:39

a be yeah we love that.

11:41

Yeah yeah even my hats I

11:44

made hats for Jim G-I-M-G-I-M-B so

11:46

but and you know the funny

11:48

thing is I think it was

11:50

Mariah Carey, you know, she, she,

11:52

a lot of people, they, they,

11:54

they just, they're bewildered. But, about

11:56

that skit and, and what, what

11:58

is up with that guy's name?

12:00

But, you know, you know, Mariah,

12:02

like being around equipment and music

12:04

and writing and doing all these

12:06

things. She knew instantly what that

12:08

was. And she said to me,

12:10

I was filming her video in

12:12

Puerto Rico, she was shooting honey,

12:14

and I'm one of the gangsters

12:17

in the honey video. So she

12:19

asked me, she said, Johnny, I

12:21

have a question, and I said,

12:23

yeah. And she goes, in the

12:25

Saul's New Beach Skid, you know,

12:27

she was like, you know Jim?

12:29

And I was like, yeah. And

12:31

she goes, that was an edit,

12:33

wasn't it? And I said, yeah,

12:35

that's exactly what it was. And

12:37

I must have tried, I swear

12:39

to God we went to lunch,

12:41

came back, and I must have

12:43

tried for another couple of hours

12:45

to get that as clean as

12:48

I could, but we were not

12:50

allowed to use last names. So

12:52

I don't even remember what his

12:54

last name was, but it began

12:56

with a B. So I couldn't,

12:58

no matter what I tried to

13:00

do, I couldn't get rid of

13:02

the B. So then when it

13:04

was there, it became like the

13:06

biggest hit, everybody loved that, the

13:08

B. Yeah, so now his name

13:10

is Jim. So, but anyway, but

13:12

that's that's a funny part of

13:14

the whole deal. But every now

13:16

and again, another great one that

13:18

like you're saying, that's an inside

13:21

job is Juggy Gales. Are you

13:23

guys? I think I know that

13:25

one. Yeah, I think so. Go

13:27

ahead. Juggy, Juggy Gales is one

13:29

of the all-time greatest jerky boys

13:31

phone calls. hands down. But if

13:33

Juggy Gales is also another inside

13:35

job, are you familiar with the

13:37

Jackie Gleason show obviously, right? Yeah,

13:39

yeah, yes. So you remember the

13:41

episode with the Huckle Buck and

13:43

Norton, they trying to teach him

13:45

how to do the dance, the

13:47

Huckle Buck. Yeah, yeah. So the

13:49

Huckle Buck is. what the Juggy

13:52

Gales jerky boys call is all

13:54

about. So it turns out I

13:56

was doing, I was doing commercials

13:58

for Anheiser Bush, Budweiser. And the

14:00

guys in the control room, they

14:02

had an inside job for me,

14:04

Mike, my buddy Mike, he says,

14:06

Johnny says, we got something, you're

14:08

gonna love this. And he explained

14:10

to me who he was, his

14:12

name is Juggy Gales. And back

14:14

in the 50s, and throughout I

14:16

guess the 60s, he was. one

14:18

of the greatest, you know, maybe

14:20

even before the 50s as well,

14:22

one of the greatest producers and,

14:25

and, you know, guys in the

14:27

music industry. So he was a,

14:29

he was a big deal, this

14:31

guy. So he was responsible for

14:33

this dance song called the Huckle

14:35

Buck. Now, you have to keep

14:37

in mind, anyone you could think

14:39

of. And even as big as

14:41

Frank Sinatra recorded the Huckle Buck.

14:43

So it was a major, major,

14:45

major... to do. So, and this

14:47

guy Juggy Gales was responsible for

14:49

it, but they told me to

14:51

scoop and the story and there

14:53

was a guy like there is

14:55

all throughout the world, people that

14:58

don't like to work, they just

15:00

like to copy and steal. So

15:02

there was a guy all the

15:04

way back then, his name was

15:06

Lipinsky, and this guy kept saying

15:08

that he was the guy that

15:10

was responsible for the huckle block.

15:12

So now keep in mind, Juggy

15:14

Gales is an old man, he's

15:16

probably in his... mid-late 80s or

15:18

not early 90s. Oh God. And

15:20

they gave me his phone number

15:22

to his house. Oh God. And

15:24

they told me that story about

15:26

Lipinsky. And so that's all I

15:29

had to go on. They told

15:31

me this guy Lipinsky kept trying

15:33

to steal the idea of the

15:35

huckle bug, but it was juggy

15:37

gales that was the one responsible

15:39

for the success of the huckle

15:41

buck. So that's all I needed.

15:43

And if you, for your listeners,

15:45

I won't even, they go out,

15:47

listen. It's it's juggy gales jerky

15:49

boys juggy gales one of the

15:51

greatest jerky boys track of all

15:53

time and and but it goes

15:55

on and on and you know

15:57

the I call him at the

15:59

house and his wife My fans

16:02

is the phone and unbeknownst to

16:04

me, I had no idea, you

16:06

know, because this is, I never,

16:08

this is an inside job. And

16:10

I'm like, hey, Juggy, and he's,

16:12

who is this? Who's calling? And

16:14

you could tell they're very old

16:16

people. And I'm like, yeah, I'm

16:18

looking for Juggy, put Juggy on.

16:20

And then it gets, and the

16:22

whole time, it's funny because. If

16:24

you listen close, Juggy Gales was

16:26

on the extension. He's listening to

16:28

me, call his wife, every name

16:30

in the book. And then when

16:33

I get Juggy on the line,

16:35

I don't even want, you gotta

16:37

go listen to that call. It

16:39

is, it's one of the, and

16:41

it was like magic. It was

16:43

just like magic. Everything, every road

16:45

I went down, I'm telling him,

16:47

I juggy, Jesus Christ, don't you

16:49

remember me and you back in

16:51

the old days at the grill

16:53

building? I said, don't you remember

16:55

me and you're with that fucking

16:57

Sinatra? And he's like, oh, yeah,

16:59

yeah. And you got, and it

17:01

goes on, and then I'm talking

17:03

about Tony Bennet, and then I,

17:06

but it goes into this whole

17:08

crazy off-the-wall shit. But you got

17:10

to hear it, it's called Juggy

17:12

Gales, and that was another inside

17:14

job. And I think there may

17:16

have been like, maybe two or

17:18

three other inside jobs like that.

17:20

Yeah, so speaking of the juggy

17:22

gales thing that kind of leads

17:24

me to like something else I've

17:26

always been interested in when you

17:28

make these calls, okay, you can

17:30

tell You kind of can get

17:32

a feel Pretty quickly about where

17:34

this is going to go either

17:36

the person knows they're being fucked

17:39

with and they're playing along or

17:41

the person really thinks that you

17:43

are Frank Rizzo or Saul Rosenberg

17:45

and they're being which do you?

17:47

What are you for? And are

17:49

you prepared for both when you

17:51

make your call? Yeah, since the

17:53

very beginning, this was the MO.

17:55

Since the very beginning. if I

17:57

felt even for a second that

17:59

somebody was like, and we got

18:01

a lot of that after the

18:03

first Jerky Boys album. Yeah, we

18:05

got, because now the Jerky Boys,

18:07

the Jerky Boys, the Jerky Boys

18:10

was already around the globe famous

18:12

with the bootleg, because if you

18:14

think back to those times, there

18:16

was no computers yet, there was

18:18

no internet yet. I shouldn't say

18:20

computers, but there was none of

18:22

this what we have today. Nothing.

18:24

All you had, all you had

18:26

back then was cassette tapes and

18:28

vinyl and shit like that. So,

18:30

because you're going back 70s and

18:32

80s. So, you know, you think

18:34

about it, if I got the

18:36

slightest inkling that a person was

18:38

a fucking idiot or they were

18:40

trying to, they may have heard

18:43

the jerky boys in there like

18:45

trying to be funny because they

18:47

think it's a prank phone call

18:49

and didn't get many of them,

18:51

but if I did get them.

18:53

It was a dump out, instantly

18:55

dumped out. Okay, because that shit's

18:57

not funny. Right, right, right. There's

18:59

nothing, there's nothing funny about that.

19:01

Right. A good example about that

19:03

is, if you take my saw

19:05

Rosenberg from Jerki Voice 3 where

19:07

he goes to get a chainsaw

19:09

and he falls and breaks his

19:11

leg. Right. And if you listen

19:14

to that, listen to that skit.

19:16

So when I fall and I

19:18

break my leg over the dog,

19:20

I trip over the dog, you

19:22

know, in my mind, like, you

19:24

know, people say to me all

19:26

the time, they're like, Johnny, how

19:28

the fuck did you not lose

19:30

it, man? When you did that,

19:32

you fell down. How did you

19:34

not? And my answer to them

19:36

is because it's not funny. I

19:38

said, you know, I just broke

19:40

my fucking leg. There's nothing funny

19:42

about that. And in my mind.

19:44

These things are happening in real

19:47

time. Right. So if I said

19:49

that, oh gee, oh my God,

19:51

I did. I can see the

19:53

bone sticking out. It's like when

19:55

I'm doing this, I'm not sitting

19:57

there saying, oh, I'm doing a

19:59

prank phone call. None of that

20:01

shit, none of that shit is

20:03

up here. And as goofy as

20:05

it sounds, it's like I want

20:07

you to see this little motion

20:09

picture that I got clicking in

20:11

my head. So I just keep

20:13

going. I don't. you know my

20:15

leg is busted the bone sticking

20:18

out I'm up in my chair

20:20

and I'll just wait till my

20:22

son gets home and so but

20:24

but you know it but now

20:26

there have been calls where I've

20:28

got characters on the other end

20:30

of the line and I know

20:32

that these fuckers are they're funny

20:34

like for example um big hawk

20:36

Big Cock. Yeah, they have Big

20:38

Cock. I didn't say, I didn't

20:40

say Big Cock. What's the matter

20:42

with you? And I love what

20:44

he goes like this. Come on,

20:46

what are you playing with me

20:48

or what? He's got legs like

20:51

animals. Yeah, I'm like, like fucking

20:53

animals. I put my head through

20:55

walls for you. So, you know

20:57

what? See, and so that's a

20:59

perfect example. Perfect example. Here I'm

21:01

trying to do, I'm trying to

21:03

do this character Silverman, which is

21:05

a Frank Rizzo. you know, type

21:07

boys. But I'm doing, I'm doing

21:09

Silverman, who's a sports agent, and

21:11

he's calling because he wants to

21:13

play professional football. And as soon

21:15

as I heard this guy, this

21:17

is what, this is what you

21:19

know, when things are just right,

21:21

you just shut your fucking mouth,

21:24

and this guy was great, and

21:26

I just let him go. And

21:28

what I would do was I

21:30

started feeding him. And I was

21:32

like, you know, with a little

21:34

quick quips, I was like, oh,

21:36

big hawk. Yeah, I heard. No,

21:38

I didn't say big cock. Oh,

21:40

no, I didn't say that. You

21:42

know, just, just, and people, when

21:44

they listen to that guy. You

21:46

walk away from that going, man,

21:48

that guy was fucking awesome. And

21:50

that's the beauty of the jerky

21:52

boys. It's, it's, you know what

21:55

it is? It's sketch comedy, you

21:57

know, I think it was the

21:59

New York Times many moons ago,

22:01

they said it was coined as

22:03

improvisational theater of the mind. You

22:05

know, just spontaneous. Yeah, good way

22:07

of describing it. And it was

22:09

just spontaneous. Like, like I would

22:11

come up and people say to

22:13

me all the time like. You

22:15

know, what the hell? Where are

22:17

you coming? What the hell was

22:19

that thing that you said? And

22:21

you know, it was funny, Seth

22:23

McFarland, he hit me with a

22:25

lot of that shit. Like Johnny,

22:28

where the hell do you come

22:30

up with this stuff? If you

22:32

see a family guy, every time

22:34

Peter falls down, what does he

22:36

do? He does my bit from

22:38

the chainsaw shock? Where Sal's just

22:40

laying? He's going, oh. Right, right,

22:42

right, right. And I'll never forget,

22:44

I met Seth flew to New

22:46

York and we were in a

22:48

session in New York City. This

22:50

is when he was very young.

22:52

This is a long time ago,

22:54

probably 20 years ago. And he

22:56

says to me, he goes, Johnny,

22:59

where he says, I just have

23:01

to ask you, like, where does

23:03

that come from? Where do you

23:05

come up with that? You know,

23:07

that, you know, you're just laying

23:09

there and you just. and just

23:11

the constant, oh, because, and again,

23:13

it gets, it gets back, it

23:15

gets back to what I was

23:17

saying to you guys, because in

23:19

my mind, that, that shit is

23:21

what just happens. Right, right. You

23:23

know, he, you know, to me,

23:25

it has nothing to do with

23:27

praying phone calls. And I don't

23:29

mean that in a bad way.

23:32

No, I just mean it. I

23:34

mean it in a way like.

23:36

There's a fucking little movie going

23:38

on here and you gotta get

23:40

in, you gotta get on the

23:42

train and fucking, you gotta grab

23:44

it, you know what I mean?

23:46

So I was the, go ahead.

23:48

I was gonna say, so I

23:50

think a big hawk. Yep. I

23:52

think of the unemployed painter. That's

23:54

what I was just going to

23:56

ask. It's the back and forth,

23:58

I think, of Saul's fucking nude

24:00

beach. The person is just as

24:02

funny, but another favorite of mine,

24:05

and a lot of people didn't

24:07

know this one, and that Jack's

24:09

pickle from Pima. Yeah. That, that

24:11

fucking immigrant, poor guy on the

24:13

other line, was, yep. What was

24:15

he saying to you? I pickle

24:17

they? Yeah. What the fuck was

24:19

that? I see that that's another

24:21

one now Jack's pickles and penis

24:23

pumps, you know, so that's what

24:25

people that's why so many millions

24:27

of people around the world. They

24:29

love the jerky boys because it's

24:31

not like anything else. It's absurd.

24:33

It's chaotic. It's chaotic. It makes

24:36

no sense whatsoever. Sometimes it's It's

24:38

on the money. And like that

24:40

guy you're talking about, you know,

24:42

he's just trying to sell fucking

24:44

tomatoes. You know, you're going to

24:46

give him for a little small

24:48

stack of potatoes in the end.

24:50

You can't get a deal. Oh,

24:52

wonderful. See that? See that? Smart

24:54

guy. We're doing business here. You

24:56

know, and he's like, and you

24:58

could tell he's getting a little

25:00

pissed off because he's... starting to

25:02

take deep breaths and he's all

25:04

excited about the prices we're talking

25:06

about and then he says he

25:09

says I want day I want

25:11

day and then he's I don't

25:13

know what kind day yeah and

25:15

he says what kind size and

25:17

it's like I pickle day I

25:19

pickle day you know and it's

25:21

like you can't make that shit

25:23

up no you fucking hit them

25:25

back with the fucking right A

25:27

small point. Is it more what?

25:29

You go, I know where you

25:31

go. Yes. You know, yes. And

25:33

the chance goes, okay, we got

25:35

a deal. As a matter of

25:37

fact, some of these things. are

25:40

so small you may not be

25:42

able to see him with the

25:44

naked eye. You may need a,

25:46

you may, yeah, you may need

25:48

a penis pump to see these

25:50

damn things. And people are, people

25:52

are like, what the fuck was

25:54

that? Like, you know, but that's,

25:56

that's, that's the beauty of the

25:58

jerky boys. It's out of left

26:00

field. It makes no fucking sense.

26:02

And that guy is brilliant. Now

26:04

I don't think I'll be honest

26:06

with you. I don't think you

26:08

could get this anywhere else but

26:10

in New York. Yeah, totally because

26:13

you have enough immigrants that can

26:15

get around where they are But

26:17

they still don't pick up on

26:19

the American like is this guy

26:21

fucking with me? They don't get

26:23

it. So they keep it going.

26:25

What was the other one? Was

26:27

it the stutter motor you call

26:29

the guy and the guy's like

26:31

yeah? Yes! You know, you eat

26:33

the shit, was it to eat

26:35

the shit on his life? No,

26:37

that was the insulator. Was that

26:39

Roland guy? Roland, what? Roland, no,

26:41

yeah. What, what, you, what, you,

26:44

when he's like, you're benching 350

26:46

pieces? Pieces, what the fuck, pieces?

26:48

What, what the fuck, you pounds,

26:50

baby, you know, funny thing, when

26:52

my bootleg? The boot, the jerky

26:54

boy's bootleg was out on the

26:56

street, right? And this is, now

26:58

this is in the early 80s.

27:00

And that liverlips line, that, the

27:02

brothers that made Christmas vacation, the

27:04

guys that made, they were all

27:06

huge fans on the set of

27:08

Christmas vacation. So the next time

27:10

you watch Christmas vacation, look closely

27:12

and you'll see Chevy Chase, he's

27:14

doing the liverlips line. Eat my

27:17

road rage, liver lips and all

27:19

this other stuff. And, right. And

27:21

even at the end, when he

27:23

finds the letter between the car

27:25

seat, he say, do a Saul

27:27

Rosenberg. And he's knocking on the

27:29

door and he's like, hi, I'm

27:31

sorry. It was in the seat.

27:33

I didn't see it. I'm sorry.

27:35

And so, you know, the jerky

27:37

boys goes so. far back man

27:39

and and and and you know

27:41

Hollywood funny enough Hollywood was one

27:43

of the first towns to grab

27:45

onto the jerky boy stuff you

27:47

know over 35 40 years ago

27:50

they had they were they were

27:52

passing around the bootleg all those

27:54

years ago wow the other the

27:56

other the other one that talking

27:58

about interaction that that makes the

28:00

call that much better I mean

28:02

the the call itself is great

28:04

but sparky the clown yeah when

28:06

that when that guy is like

28:08

Well I don't do that I

28:10

do a magic show and a

28:12

children's sculpture I do a children's

28:14

man he's very very serious yeah

28:16

he's like well yeah you know

28:18

we got a terrorist some people

28:21

gonna be swinging for the terrorists

28:23

and then all of a sudden

28:25

the guy's like well when do

28:27

you need me like yes said

28:29

you weren't like I just those

28:31

are the kind of calls that

28:33

just that that make me just

28:35

that make me just They reel

28:37

you in, like you said, it's

28:39

like theater of the mud, it's

28:41

like I cannot believe they're engaging

28:43

right now. You know what, you

28:45

know what, if you think about

28:47

it, right, when you first heard

28:49

these calls? You know what's not

28:51

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28:54

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28:56

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29:53

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29:55

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29:58

is what I really wanted everybody

30:00

to do, you're picturing probably the

30:02

same thing that was winning in

30:04

my mind. Oh, totally. Because I

30:06

was trying to paint this picture,

30:08

I said, I wanted everybody to

30:10

know that this guy's Sparky. Yeah,

30:12

what do you do? You fucking

30:14

come, you throw fire bombs, you

30:16

got all kinds of shit. And

30:18

then when we put him in

30:20

the movie... you know in the

30:22

jerky boys movie yeah yeah yeah

30:24

he comes out but he's two

30:26

machetes and he's got these two

30:29

big knives and and uh vennipa

30:31

story big pussy from the sopranos

30:33

yeah he takes out his gun

30:35

right away and he's fucking shooting

30:37

up the joint because he's afraid

30:39

of clowns you know it's a

30:41

one all the way around a

30:43

couple things I want to ask

30:45

you now and this is stuff

30:47

from the kids that we were

30:49

way back then okay one of

30:51

them is Did you work because

30:53

it was on our tape with

30:55

that John Musachia guy? Was that

30:57

part of your group? Nothing to

30:59

do with you. No, no. That

31:02

was on our tape along with

31:04

like the red stuff and... Right.

31:06

Howard Stern put a lot of

31:08

stuff. It wasn't Howard Stern, it

31:10

was his people I think, the

31:12

people that worked for him. They

31:14

gathered up what was ever hot

31:16

at the time. when I came

31:18

out there you know there's actually

31:20

I think one or two calls

31:22

on the massage tape that I'm

31:24

on as a woman so I'm

31:26

doing my yeah that's why I

31:28

thought it was you right right

31:30

I need to use the phone

31:32

that's you right right right right

31:35

I'm doing yeah the screaming and

31:37

the yelling yeah like he like

31:39

beats his wife up in the

31:41

background and I need your fucking

31:43

hell because that's why I thought

31:45

he was part of your group

31:47

no I just knocked this fucking

31:49

bitch cold with the lamp You're

31:51

not just talking about, but wait

31:53

a while, now I get you

31:55

on the line, now I need

31:57

you'll be a witness, like yeah.

31:59

Yeah, so, but again, you got

32:01

your marriage. Yeah, keep in mind,

32:03

now the same thing held true

32:06

for Kamal, and the jerky boys,

32:08

there's a couple of kids, it's

32:10

that when I was putting these

32:12

records together to go out to

32:14

the masses, that it was just

32:16

stuff I'm not, I'm not gonna

32:18

be putting on, you know, I

32:20

pretty much use everything from the

32:22

bootleg. So the fans got what

32:24

they wanted. But there was a

32:26

couple of skits that really people

32:28

didn't know about. And they were

32:30

just, they weren't, they weren't the

32:32

kind of like creative kind of

32:34

humor. They were just like real

32:36

shit bowl kind of humor like,

32:39

you know, and I was. The

32:41

pizza guy. that's not on the

32:43

that was on the no no

32:45

no no no no that's a

32:47

great call the pizza i'm gonna

32:49

bomb this place yeah yeah no

32:51

that's great call that listen that

32:53

is a jerky boys call i

32:55

believe it's on the first record

32:57

and it is one of the

32:59

all-time fucking do not get in

33:01

trouble for that though all-time great

33:03

listen you got to think again

33:05

this is this gets back to

33:07

what we talk about with the

33:10

jerky boys why it's almost like

33:12

that sims way out in front

33:14

of shit. You know that we

33:16

were talking about bombing all this

33:18

stuff and doing, we were doing

33:20

Middle Eastern, Middle Eastern characters before

33:22

they even bombed the first, the

33:24

first time on the Three Center.

33:26

Yeah, yeah, that's right. This, this

33:28

stuff was out years before that.

33:30

And you got, you got, you

33:32

know, Kamal's doing the, the, uh,

33:34

shut the fuck coming. And he's

33:36

like, sir, sir, how can I

33:38

help you? My wife, my daughter,

33:40

is throwing up and you're talking

33:43

about coupons. Yeah, and that's called

33:45

Jerki Boys Terrorist Pizza. Yes, yes,

33:47

yes. Because I'm always thinking like,

33:49

and we had this conversation before

33:51

Johnny, and I had asked you,

33:53

all these fucking calls, did you

33:55

ever getting... trouble for anything and

33:57

you told me one story and

33:59

I want my our listeners to

34:01

hear it about the but not

34:03

you know the piano tuner oh

34:05

Eric yeah Eric the but not

34:07

Eric you know it's funny when

34:09

he answered the phone as soon

34:11

as he answered the phone that's

34:13

what I'm talking about the jerky

34:16

boy's magic I said yeah is

34:18

there is Eric there whatever the

34:20

hell I said yeah and he

34:22

goes this is me as soon

34:24

as he said that it's yet

34:26

a but nut And I swear

34:28

to God, it just, it literally

34:30

just came out of my mouth

34:32

and to this day people fucking

34:34

go nuts for that. But anyway,

34:36

that was the whole thing about

34:38

my Rottweiler in the piano. Yeah,

34:40

he stripped his fucking teeth. Yeah,

34:42

he's stripping his fucking teeth there,

34:44

Ricky's a little too tough for

34:47

me. And this guy, this guy's

34:49

like, I'm not on call or

34:51

something like that. And he goes,

34:53

and your dog is stuck, your

34:55

Rott? Oh. And he's like, I'm

34:57

sorry. And it was just, again,

34:59

one of the classicals, but anyway,

35:01

you know what the great thing

35:03

is, you and actually us all

35:05

talking about this, going out to

35:07

new audiences, which I love, because

35:09

then they can go, they can

35:11

go look it up. Oh, absolutely.

35:13

When they hear this stuff, it's

35:15

like, it's amazing. But what your

35:17

question was with the, uh, with

35:20

the, anybody ever got back after

35:22

you're doing those calls. Right, Eric

35:24

was the one guy that came

35:26

out many moons ago, right at

35:28

the very beginning, and he said

35:30

that he was the guy, he

35:32

was Eric on that. And now

35:34

keep in mind, this is a

35:36

long time ago, there was no

35:38

this, that, you know, so what

35:40

was that back in those days,

35:42

they had waves that they could

35:44

say that you could test voice

35:46

analysis. Yep. And it was more

35:48

accurate than a fingerprint. This

35:51

is what they told me back

35:53

in the day anyway. So they

35:55

said that they never proved it.

35:57

The guy got $200. And so

35:59

the record company gave him 200

36:01

bucks and I think that was

36:03

it or an extra 50 for

36:05

his favorite charity or something, but

36:07

that was the end of it.

36:09

And for the most part, people,

36:11

when they found out and the

36:13

clearances had to be gotten, you

36:15

see on the first jerky boys,

36:17

a lot of that was from

36:19

the bootleg, most of it, all

36:21

of it was from the bootleg.

36:23

So we didn't have any clearances.

36:26

You see what I'm saying? And

36:28

you're talking now, it's almost 40

36:30

years ago. So you didn't have

36:32

any clearances, but that was, I

36:34

guess, the beauty of everything too.

36:36

And but I see, I still

36:38

do it, like, I don't worry

36:40

about the clearances. You go and

36:42

you do the job, and then

36:44

afterwards you hope that you got

36:46

good enough people around you, and

36:48

Harry, I'm sure you guys have

36:50

heard his name more than once,

36:52

Harry gets up. He was the

36:54

manager at the time. And he

36:56

had like a 99. 9. of

36:58

getting all of these clearances. So,

37:00

but that was the only guy

37:02

that came forward and tried to

37:04

throw a little hissy fits. So

37:06

they threw a couple of like

37:08

200 bucks. You gotta, you gotta

37:11

come forward, you gotta prove all

37:13

sorts of damages and how did

37:15

the jerking voice damage you? It's

37:17

a whole fucking rigmarole. And that

37:19

you're identifiable. Like that you, people

37:21

can pick up that that's really

37:23

you. Right. Right? Right? I mean,

37:25

that's hard to pick out. I

37:27

mean, like getting. It's yeah, it's

37:29

like they got to they got

37:31

to prove that first of that

37:33

it's there them on the tape

37:35

So it's it was it was

37:37

but it didn't even it didn't

37:39

even it was not even us

37:41

really didn't even give it a

37:43

second thought on it really you

37:45

know bother us. Yeah, so one

37:47

one character one name we haven't

37:49

brought up yet. We have to

37:51

talk about Jack horse. Because not

37:53

only are those calls legendary but

37:56

the stuff that comes out of

37:58

his mouth in the reaction and

38:00

the reaction and I'm particularly talking

38:02

about when that line when he

38:04

talks about pulling large pieces of

38:06

furniture from his ass. And that

38:08

girl on the other end just

38:10

getting the biggest kick out of

38:12

it. I couldn't, Jack is one

38:14

of the greats. Yes. Yes, he

38:16

is. You know, Mariah Carey actually

38:18

coined it. She says, Jack Tors

38:20

is the original Diva. And so,

38:22

you know, so think about that.

38:24

That's how many moons ago Jack

38:26

Tors. I was doing the gay

38:28

stuff. way before it was a

38:30

thing to do. When I was

38:32

doing it, it was very taboo.

38:34

Oh yeah. Very taboo. I'll give

38:36

you a good example. I was

38:38

doing commercials for Anheuser Bush Bugweiser.

38:41

And now this is all the

38:43

way in 1997, I believe. And

38:45

they had me do a bunch

38:47

of gay commercials because they were

38:49

huge fans of Jack. So they

38:51

love the gay character. So I

38:53

did a bunch of killer commercials.

38:55

using my character Jack Tors and

38:57

they focus grouped them at Limelight

38:59

in New York City, the nightclub.

39:01

Okay. And they did it with

39:03

the gay community and the gay

39:05

community absolutely went nuts. They said

39:07

these, these commercials are the funniest

39:09

things we ever heard and they

39:11

had full support from the gay

39:13

community. But guess what? At the

39:15

end of the day, Budweiser, they

39:17

still were afraid to pull that

39:19

and go with my gay character.

39:21

Wow. So and that was 97.

39:24

Yeah, right. So can you imagine

39:26

I was doing my gay stuff

39:28

when I was a kid? Yeah,

39:30

you know, 20 years before that.

39:32

So, you know, it was it

39:34

was a crazy deal. But Jack

39:36

Tors to this day now is

39:38

considered the original Diva. And that's

39:40

why you see everybody in their

39:42

mother, you know, I forget their

39:44

names. That guy gun. Everything he

39:46

did was basically Jack Tors. but

39:48

you know their argument would be

39:50

well well he's he's he's gay

39:52

Johnny yeah okay okay so what

39:54

so i i don't count You

39:56

know, my character, my character Jack

39:58

was the fucking greatest gay fucking

40:00

dude to ever hit the circuit.

40:02

So, you know, but I'm never

40:04

forget that guy. I forget his

40:06

first name gun. He was that

40:09

he had the gray hair and

40:11

he used to do all the

40:13

stuff on the cable networks and

40:15

yeah, he was the model guy

40:17

like the model. Was it was

40:19

a Tim gun or something? Yeah,

40:21

I think so. You would talk

40:23

like this. Yes, right. And he

40:25

was trying on a jacket on

40:27

the show and he goes. Oh,

40:29

oh, all right. And he goes,

40:31

I love it. And I was

40:33

like, oh my God, if that's

40:35

not a Jack Tors rip-off, I

40:37

mean, and then you had people

40:39

out there going bing-bong doing my

40:41

Jack Tors Bing-Bong, you know, and-

40:43

That's the fat muffin man. Bing-bong,

40:45

good-bye, sir. Yes, hello, Bing-bong, you

40:47

know, Jack-Guff- I hope not, yeah.

40:49

That poor gosh, like, what the

40:51

thoughts of it. How is he,

40:54

like, me, my friend, I gotta

40:56

give a shout out to my

40:58

buddy Jimmy, who's a friend of

41:00

awesome college, loves to like, while

41:02

we're talking in the middle of

41:04

it, just interrupt us like he

41:06

did. How is he anyway? How

41:08

is that big muffin ass faster?

41:10

You know, what the funny thing

41:12

was, we know, my character Jack

41:14

Torse. When I came up with

41:16

that character, I was literally a

41:18

kid. And I just thought, how

41:20

funny would it be? Like he

41:22

was just a very, very lovable,

41:24

but very obnoxious. Everything that anyone

41:26

ever did was like just second

41:28

nature, old hat. You know, if

41:30

Jack Torres, like everything was beneath

41:32

him, but in a very loving

41:34

kind of way. And that's why

41:36

she says to me, like, do

41:39

I do a runway? And I

41:41

go. Oh, runway is just old

41:43

ads to me, honey. Yeah. And

41:45

just Jack's horse is like, he's

41:47

one of. kind. And so, but

41:49

so many people to this day

41:51

are fucking nuts over that character.

41:53

Yeah, you did the same thing

41:55

to that lady. You cut her

41:57

off and you just, let me

41:59

tell you what I really do.

42:01

Yeah. It's like, so myself and

42:03

Lamboil. Are you the burn man?

42:05

Just fucking absurdity of it all.

42:07

You know what? Here's a great

42:09

one. Remember when you started the

42:11

conversation. You started the conversation and

42:13

asked me when people come up

42:15

to me. And that's probably one

42:17

that I should study and try

42:19

to remember. You don't know how

42:21

many people come up to me

42:24

and say that line from Jack.

42:26

I'm only burnt about the face-neck

42:28

red chest and head area. And

42:30

I have to study it because

42:32

otherwise I'll get it wrong. And

42:34

let me tell you something. If

42:36

I fuck up one of my

42:38

quotes, my fucking fan base goes

42:40

nuts. Oh yeah. And they literally

42:42

say to me Johnny. Dude, don't

42:44

do the fucking quotes if you

42:46

don't know them. Oh, suck off.

42:48

No, it's funny. They say that

42:50

to me. No, I'm just saying

42:52

like settle down for them. Yeah.

42:54

Hey, you know else? You, that

42:56

ripped off. And I'll tell you

42:58

because I used to watch it.

43:00

I thought it was funny that

43:02

Stefan character on Saturday Night Lives

43:04

is fucking Jack Tors. Definitely. The

43:06

Bill Hill character. today's character today's

43:09

of the place to visit is

43:11

this this this and that like

43:13

that is a big-time jacktours ripple

43:15

is that new I haven't watched

43:17

that no it's pretty old it's

43:19

it's it's bill hag bill bill

43:21

hater does it he used to

43:23

show up on weekend update you

43:25

would give like a nightlife update

43:27

about yeah and all the clubs

43:29

to go to the it's jack

43:31

torso Watch Stefan on S&L and

43:33

tell me that's not that's not

43:35

Jack So what what years are

43:37

you are you talking about? We're

43:39

talking about 10 years back, but

43:41

probably within the last 10 years

43:43

It's one of the most popular

43:45

character Yeah, yeah, no, I've never

43:47

see that's what I'm telling you.

43:49

So many people have capitalized on

43:51

my characters over the years. I

43:54

mean, I wish I had fucking

43:56

royalties for all I was just

43:58

going to say that. You might

44:00

look into that one, buddy, because

44:02

that sounds like that was directly

44:04

from Jack. Oh yeah, there's no,

44:06

I don't doubt it for, that's

44:08

why I asked you how far

44:10

back it was. Let me tell

44:12

you something. You know, it is

44:14

what it is, but you know,

44:16

the one thing I find really

44:18

unfortunate with Hollywood, there's no originality

44:20

there. None. None. Nobody comes up

44:22

with anything original. They don't come

44:24

out with ideas. You know, but

44:26

I don't care what anybody says

44:28

anybody says. I don't give a

44:30

fuck when anybody says you can

44:32

never say the jerky boys didn't

44:34

come out of left field and

44:36

took the world by storm. There

44:39

was nothing like it. Eddie Murphy's

44:41

brother was in my movie. He

44:43

played a guard in my movie,

44:45

a security guard. And when I

44:47

was in prison in my movie,

44:49

and you know, Eddie Murphy said,

44:51

you know, before the, before this

44:53

Frank Rizzo guy. you just had

44:55

a bunch of comedians standing up

44:57

in front of a red brick

44:59

wall telling jokes and then all

45:01

of a sudden this Frank Rizzo

45:03

guy comes in and just like

45:05

takes the world by storm and

45:07

and that's that's the jerky boys

45:09

in a nutshell so you know

45:11

that's why Mariah Carey said Jack

45:13

Torse is the original diva and

45:15

when you see people you know

45:17

like I just said this Kim

45:19

gun now their argument back to

45:22

me would be hysterical they'd say

45:24

well Johnny he's gay and they

45:26

would say And they would say

45:28

to me, well, what leg do

45:30

you have to stand on? And

45:32

I would say, well, you know,

45:34

what about Jack? You know, it

45:36

doesn't count anymore because I'm not

45:38

a fucking fruit cake, you know?

45:40

But anyway, you know, but no,

45:42

the gay community loved Jack Tors

45:44

and it's always been a really,

45:46

it's been a great character. My

45:48

two favorite characters to do, Jack

45:50

Tors the gay character and big

45:52

old bad ass bob the truck

45:54

driver oh yeah those are my

45:56

those are my two favorite characters

45:58

to do Johnny how back when

46:00

you guys start how was your

46:02

How is your relationship with with

46:04

Kamal and How did that evolve

46:07

and how did you guys? How

46:09

did you guys know what like

46:11

okay? This call? I'm gonna do

46:13

this character this call Kamal's gonna

46:15

do that character How did that

46:17

evolve in and where is your

46:19

relationship with Kamal now if you're

46:21

if you're okay to talk about

46:23

that? Yeah, absolutely um it was

46:25

not really something that was discussed

46:27

like I I did lots of

46:29

the I did, but before, you

46:31

know, Kamal wasn't even involved yet

46:33

when I was laying these things

46:35

down. And, you know, Kamal would

46:37

come over every night and say,

46:39

come on, man, let's do some

46:41

more, because when he heard them,

46:43

he thought it was the greatest

46:45

thing that he ever heard as

46:47

far as comedy goes. And I

46:49

actually thought that he was putting

46:52

me on. I thought he was

46:54

actually making fun of me, because

46:56

everybody that was over at the

46:58

house was hysterical. And then that

47:00

Kamal's on the ground on the

47:02

ground, literally crying, his eyes were

47:04

crying. And I said, what the

47:06

fuck? And he goes, he goes,

47:08

that is the funniest thing I

47:10

ever heard ever. So then Kamal

47:12

would come over every night and

47:14

he's like, come on man, let's

47:16

do so, let's do. And I

47:18

had to, you know, I was

47:20

in the construction business. I was

47:22

hanging off buildings for a fucking

47:24

living. I remember going to work

47:26

hallucinating because, you know, Kamal had

47:28

me up all fucking night. And,

47:30

you know, and here I'm hanging

47:32

off. you know, as time went

47:34

on, we would do a few

47:37

during the night, we'd stay up,

47:39

we'd have a few glasses of

47:41

wine, who the fuck knows, a

47:43

few beers, and we would do

47:45

this and do a couple of

47:47

that, and so that's really how

47:49

it got started. And I used

47:51

to love, I used to tell

47:53

Kamal, the funniest thing I used

47:55

to love with him, and it

47:57

used to make me, I used

47:59

to make me, Johnny has never

48:01

been a time I've ever seen

48:03

you laugh, you know on the

48:05

jerky voice I said that's because

48:07

you know it's it's not a

48:09

time to laugh you know you

48:11

know there's plenty of times plenty

48:13

of times when I shut the

48:15

recorder off that you'll hear me

48:17

chuckle afterwards but not not during

48:19

the bed but anyway so you

48:22

know Kamo you know it was

48:24

just the way things broke down

48:26

you know it was like there

48:28

was no talking about hey could

48:30

you make five or ten or

48:32

fifteen skits it was just you

48:34

know I always had so many

48:36

skits you know and so It

48:38

was just and then through the

48:40

albums we would pepper Kamal's tracks

48:42

in there and what like I

48:44

said what was saying was but

48:46

maybe left so much with Kamal

48:48

was he was six foot four

48:50

and he was 330 pounds he

48:52

was he was he was like

48:54

a linebacker he was he was

48:56

a big motherfucker and to hear

48:58

this woman's voice come out of

49:00

him you guys are familiar with

49:02

the dental malpractice right? Right. Rocco?

49:04

Yeah. Right. Louis Rocco. One of

49:07

my favorite, one of my favorite

49:09

calls and and if you listen

49:11

to the records you can hear

49:13

and I would say to Kamal

49:15

because we would lay on the

49:17

rug in my bedroom and we

49:19

would do this and Kamal's like

49:21

I said a big ass fucker

49:23

and he'd be laying on his

49:25

stomach and talking toward the boom

49:27

box and the speaker phone at

49:29

the same time. And I loved

49:31

his yelling and screaming and screaming

49:33

so much. that I would tell

49:35

him constantly and you to scream

49:37

do more of it. So you'll

49:39

see he's on the floor and

49:41

I'm literally booting him up kicking

49:43

him in his ass. And if

49:45

you listen to the dental malpractice,

49:47

if you listen, your listener is

49:49

listening to this, they'll go, oh

49:52

my God, I hear it. I'm

49:54

booting come all up the ass

49:56

and I'm kicking him up the

49:58

ass. And keep in mind now,

50:00

he's in character. He's in character.

50:02

So he's doing Tarbosch and he's

50:04

talking to the lady. I'm getting

50:06

frustrated now because I want to

50:08

hear more of that yelling at

50:10

screaming. So I'm putting my fucking

50:12

sneaker like boot him in the

50:14

ass and he turns around in

50:16

character and he talks to me

50:18

away from the microphone and he

50:20

says to me, what? He's talking

50:22

to me in character. It's the

50:24

funniest thing. But he talks away

50:26

from the mic and he says

50:28

what to me. And I'm like,

50:30

scream, scream. And he's like, he's

50:32

doing all that fucking yelling. And

50:35

right, right, when Kamal did that?

50:37

That's why even in the movie

50:39

I said dude you gotta fucking

50:41

do that because he's such a

50:43

big guy and that voice coming

50:45

at him and Kamo he had

50:47

that when he did Tarabash it

50:49

was same thing it was like

50:51

that magic it was like that

50:53

it was like that it was

50:55

it was that magic man When

50:57

that, I love that lady, and

50:59

she's like, the Egyptian magician, yeah,

51:01

she's so excited. Wait a minute,

51:03

go back, go back, because that

51:05

dental map practice has a great

51:07

fucking line. Yeah, right. Well, she,

51:09

he repeats, he gives her her

51:11

phone number. She purposely gives it

51:13

back wrong. And he's like, yes.

51:15

High 55, 1, 2, 4, yes.

51:17

That's, that's when we got signed

51:20

to Atlantic records. So when we

51:22

got signed to Atlantic Records you

51:24

had to obviously take out phone

51:26

numbers and and stuff so but

51:28

but the funny thing is there

51:30

was the other one with Kamal

51:32

where he does um uh where

51:34

he punches it he punches his

51:36

chest and it disappears into the

51:38

crowd oh yeah and the other

51:40

one with the Mountain Cat. Yeah,

51:42

yeah. And she's like, yeah, yeah,

51:44

well, you terrorize people with the

51:46

Mountain Cat, okay. And she goes,

51:48

she goes, you know what, I

51:50

wouldn't bring the Mountain Cat in

51:52

the first time. He goes, yeah,

51:54

but see, that's what I'm saying.

51:56

Even Tarbosch, it was so fucking

51:58

believable and it was in New

52:00

York. So people are going, oh

52:02

my God, I've got this fucking

52:05

lunatic on the phone, this Indian

52:07

guy, who wants to come in

52:09

and be part of this thing

52:11

we're doing, and he's got a

52:13

fucking mountain cat. I can only

52:15

imagine what these people said after

52:17

the phone call. And again, that's

52:19

incredible. Right. That's what get, that's

52:21

was the beauty of the jerky

52:23

boys. You had all of these

52:25

characters all over the place. that

52:27

people just fell in love with.

52:29

And I believe the reason is

52:31

because everybody knew a frank result.

52:33

Everybody knew a kissle. Everybody knew.

52:35

Oh, you know. For God about

52:37

that one. You know? And I

52:39

mean, and people, people just, they

52:41

really, the characters were very endearing.

52:43

People really, they really love it.

52:45

And to this day. I don't

52:47

think I'd be here if the

52:50

people still didn't feel. Absolutely, exactly.

52:52

You know, they still feel about

52:54

the jerky boys the way they

52:56

did all those years ago. And

52:58

now their, now their children are

53:00

grown up and their kids are

53:02

now in their 30s. My daughter

53:04

knows, and I go, do, do,

53:06

do, do, do, do. She knows

53:08

that in the college, 16 years

53:10

old. What the fucking she knows

53:12

that. But what I want to

53:14

ask you is another one that

53:16

is extremely legendary legendary. And that

53:18

is. and Radiohead took the name.

53:20

Oh, Pablo honey. Now, I think

53:22

that's Kamal, right? That does that?

53:24

That's you? That's you doing Pablo

53:26

honey. Okay, so that's got to

53:28

be somebody you know that you

53:30

called. Can you give us the

53:32

background on that call? That was

53:35

a very long, that was one

53:37

of the first calls, actually. And

53:39

that was an inside job as

53:41

well. That was a friend of

53:43

a friend. That's on two, right?

53:45

Yeah. It was on the boot,

53:47

like I never used it for

53:49

one. And the reason I, the,

53:51

here's a funny little tidbit, the

53:53

reason I never used it is

53:55

because I really didn't like it.

53:57

Oh, you know, what I, what

53:59

I was doing, this goes to

54:01

show. you how the jerky boys

54:03

everybody has something that they really

54:05

like yeah so my my my

54:07

buddy who I grew up with

54:09

since we were young guys I'd

54:11

say a freshman year in high

54:13

school he was he was killed

54:15

in a motorcycle accident back in

54:17

1987 but we used to do

54:20

we used to do calls back

54:22

in the in the 70s and

54:24

stuff and um He came

54:26

to this country from Cuba with his

54:28

mom and his sister and his father

54:31

and he was a tremendous guitar player.

54:33

A very young age he was a

54:35

tremendous guitar player. So anyway, his mom

54:38

was so amazing, her voice was so

54:40

distinctive. And I would always call him

54:42

up on his answer machine and leave

54:44

messages for him all the way back

54:47

in the 70s. I'd be like, Harry,

54:49

baby, what are you doing? And he'd

54:51

be like, could you stop doing that?

54:54

Stop leaving those messages at my house,

54:56

man. And so we would get to

54:58

these fights and arguments. And I still

55:01

have a tape of messages that I

55:03

used to leave him. And so one

55:05

day, I said, you know what? I

55:08

gotta do Mrs. Casillas. And I gotta

55:10

use her as a character. And so

55:12

I called a friend of a friend

55:15

or friend, this guy Pablo. And I

55:17

just did this thing. where I was

55:19

in Florida and I was, or he

55:22

was supposed to be going, this is,

55:24

you're going back, you know, this decade.

55:26

So, but again, the gist of it

55:29

was that, um, you know, Mrs. Casellis,

55:31

and I'm saying, and I'm like, Pablo?

55:33

Pablo, honey, honey, please, honey, honey, come

55:36

to Florida. Please come to Florida. And

55:38

then I started asking him, he's, you,

55:40

are you, are you washing your ass,

55:43

and keeping your ass, and keeping your

55:45

ass clean. Who the hell is this?

55:47

Who the hell is this? Right. And

55:50

so I thought to myself, everybody was

55:52

asking me to please put that on

55:54

the first record. And I was like,

55:57

get the fuck out of here. It's

55:59

not that I didn't like it, it

56:01

just to me, it didn't have any

56:04

substance. So anyway, people wrangled

56:06

me enough and I said, you know what I'm

56:08

gonna do just to shut everybody up?

56:10

I'm gonna start the second album

56:13

off with Pablo Honey. So that's

56:15

the first track on the second album.

56:17

Yep. And I get a phone call at

56:19

my house up State New York and my

56:21

mother tells me, John it's a phone for

56:23

you and some guys from the record

56:25

company. So. I answered the phone

56:27

and they're like, they're like, hey

56:30

Johnny, listen, we got some guys

56:32

here and they're wondering, would

56:34

it be okay? They wanted to ask

56:36

your permission if they could use your

56:39

skit Pablo Honey to name their debut

56:41

album in the United States. And I

56:43

was like, I was like, I was

56:45

like, yeah, I don't, what do they

56:47

want to do? They just want to

56:50

use to name their album Pablo Honey.

56:52

And I said, I say absolutely, knock

56:54

yourself out. Have at it. So, and

56:56

so they were all happy, I, you

56:58

know, and I had no fucking clue

57:01

who I was even talking to. I

57:03

just knew that I knew I was

57:05

talking to my record companies. So, next

57:08

thing you know, they tell me this

57:10

band, hey, you ever hear this

57:12

radio head? And I'm like, who the

57:14

fuck? I said, who the hell

57:16

is fucking radio head? And these

57:18

guys, these guys, now these guys

57:21

are getting very, very popular. Yeah.

57:23

So then. I still had no clue

57:25

who this was. Then I started hearing

57:27

whisperings and then they tell

57:30

me, yeah, the guys that you, those

57:32

are the guys you said that they

57:34

could, I was like, get the fuck

57:36

out of here. I said, those guys

57:38

are fucking incredible. I said, that's, and

57:40

so, and next thing, you know, so

57:42

here's the fucking coolest the icing on

57:44

the cake. I get a plaque, a

57:47

plaque to hang on my wall, sent

57:49

to me, it sent to me from

57:51

Billboard magazine. Jerki boys number

57:53

one with jerky boys two

57:55

and in second place radio

57:57

head with Pablo honey. Oh

57:59

no. That's all about. How fucking cool

58:01

is that? And I still, so I still

58:03

have that in my den. I still have

58:05

that plaque hanging up. That's so fucking cool.

58:08

I mean, it doesn't, it doesn't get any

58:10

better than that. That's when I was, I

58:12

was telling you before, a lot of people

58:14

don't realize when I came out all the

58:16

way back those years ago, I didn't have

58:18

the luxury of being in a comedy section.

58:21

I was, I was being put. My albums

58:23

were being put up against Green

58:25

Day and elected through and I

58:27

was running up the charts with

58:29

guys that the Pearl Jam and

58:31

the biggest bands in the business.

58:33

It's funny you say that because

58:36

we are in college by freshman

58:38

year we have your cassette. By the

58:40

time we leave by 95 we're like... Dude,

58:42

this radio head says Pablo Honey.

58:44

There's no fucking internet or something.

58:46

So we're like, where the fuck?

58:49

Do you think they're doing Pablo

58:51

Honey from the Jerki Boys? Like

58:53

within our college life, you went

58:55

from a cassette to one of

58:57

the biggest bands naming something after

59:00

the most crazy as fucking skid.

59:02

That's how they make it guy.

59:04

And they love, they loved, they love,

59:06

first of all, they were huge jerki

59:08

boys fans. but they they particularly love

59:11

that skid so much they named their

59:13

debut album Pablo honey and I thought that

59:15

I thought that yeah see it's so funny when

59:17

I talk a lot I can't get that high

59:19

so if I give my voice a little bit

59:21

of a rest I can actually do the voice

59:24

better but that's that's a you know shout out

59:26

to mrs gossielis but um but a

59:28

great story in and of itself my

59:30

a Cuban family but um the escape

59:32

and the whole Castro thing back in the

59:34

50th but you know so it's just when

59:36

you think about it's just when you think

59:38

about it's And look at I told

59:41

you before about the band sublime

59:43

you jerky boy, yes, you know

59:45

There's just a thing that was

59:47

made popular recently with Dave

59:50

girl There's actually videos

59:52

of Nirvana, you know back, you know

59:54

Banging out all kinds of jerky

59:56

boys lines and then after 35

59:58

years Dave girls sat down with

1:00:00

his engineer and his engineer surprised

1:00:03

him, well I think the name

1:00:05

of the track is called Rent.

1:00:07

And before the tracks, before the

1:00:09

track starts, you see Dave Groll

1:00:11

sitting there and his engineer sitting

1:00:13

next to him and this is

1:00:15

30 plus years later and he

1:00:17

plays it and it's my character

1:00:19

and I don't remember the skit.

1:00:21

I think I could be Frank

1:00:23

Rizzle. I'll open your fucking in.

1:00:25

You know his jacket. Whatever the

1:00:27

skit. I don't remember the skit.

1:00:30

But Dave Groll looks at his

1:00:32

engineer and his engineer and he

1:00:34

goes. Oh my god, the jerky

1:00:36

boys. Nice. You can actually look

1:00:38

that up. That's awesome. That was

1:00:40

that was just recently. So, you

1:00:42

know, all of these guys grow

1:00:44

old, Nirvana, you know, you named

1:00:46

the band. Oh, somebody sent me

1:00:48

something recently from, ah, the band,

1:00:50

Allison James. Oh, nice. Yeah, the

1:00:52

lead singer, lead singer, Staley. Yeah,

1:00:54

huge, huge, huge jerky boys fan.

1:00:57

And they actually shared a video

1:00:59

of him. doing, I think he

1:01:01

was doing my Saul Rosenberg character

1:01:03

and it was and it was

1:01:05

a shout out to the jerky

1:01:07

boys. But um, but it was

1:01:09

such a wonderful time. You know,

1:01:11

it was almost like I hate

1:01:13

to keep sound and sentimental. It

1:01:15

was very, it was, it was

1:01:17

a magical time man. You know,

1:01:19

I was, I was huge in

1:01:21

the 80s, but it started to

1:01:24

get that really gigantic appeal. right

1:01:26

at the same time Grunge was

1:01:28

coming in. Yes, and all of

1:01:30

these other things were happening. And

1:01:32

pop culture changed. Pop culture changed.

1:01:34

You were part of it. And

1:01:36

I had love from the 70s.

1:01:38

I had love from the 80s.

1:01:40

You know, Van Halen, Van Halen

1:01:42

was one of the biggest jerky

1:01:44

boys fans of all time. You

1:01:46

know, it's just kind of permeated

1:01:49

into the whole rock and roll

1:01:51

world. You know, you know, Dime

1:01:53

bag Darryl, I got shots of

1:01:55

Dime bag, wearing one of my,

1:01:57

he's wearing one of my very

1:01:59

first t-shirts, you know, with Pantera.

1:02:01

So, you know, think. about how

1:02:03

it got into everything. And then

1:02:05

it wasn't now just in the

1:02:07

music world. Now it's into World

1:02:09

Wrestling Federation. It's into NFL. I

1:02:11

don't know if you guys heard

1:02:13

my Derek Jeter track with all

1:02:16

about Derek Jita, the New York

1:02:18

Yankees baseball. So it got it

1:02:20

worked its way into everything. I

1:02:22

got two more left. One is

1:02:24

I want to see if you

1:02:26

have any memories or recollection of

1:02:28

the fucking angry camper dad and

1:02:30

that poor guy Shelley that you

1:02:32

call. Yeah, he kept calling his

1:02:34

name purposely. Somebody's shitting in this

1:02:36

laundry back there licking the baseball

1:02:38

bats and jagging. Yeah, I don't

1:02:40

know Shelley. I ought to come

1:02:43

up there and beat that kid

1:02:45

in front of you. Yeah. Yeah.

1:02:47

But that's a classic bit there.

1:02:49

you know and you know a

1:02:51

lot of times you know I'll

1:02:53

pull shit that I did in

1:02:55

my real life and I'll incorporate

1:02:57

it into the skits like we

1:02:59

had a roommate a long time

1:03:01

ago and I used to shit

1:03:03

in his laundry bag so he

1:03:05

used to keep he used to

1:03:08

keep his laundry bag in the

1:03:10

corner of his room and it

1:03:12

always smelled it was fucking horrible

1:03:14

and we used to have to

1:03:16

tell him dude get get that

1:03:18

shit you know take that and

1:03:20

fucking wash that shit it stinks

1:03:22

so You know, obviously the next

1:03:24

step for me was, you know,

1:03:26

he's not around, I take a

1:03:28

shit in his laundry bag and

1:03:30

so everybody in the house, everybody's

1:03:32

like, oh my God, Johnny shit

1:03:35

in his fucking laundry bag, it's

1:03:37

fucking hysterical. And so little things

1:03:39

like that. And so I'm on

1:03:41

the phone and I recall these

1:03:43

things as I'm in the middle

1:03:45

of these calls. And I'm like,

1:03:47

yeah, you know, Shelley, they got

1:03:49

problems up there. They wedge this

1:03:51

kid's leg between the rock, they

1:03:53

try to snap his fucking leg.

1:03:55

You know, they're shit in his

1:03:57

laundry bag, you know, and everything,

1:03:59

everything just. Like I said man,

1:04:02

it's just it's like that jerky

1:04:04

boy's magic, you know, totally it

1:04:06

is Unbelievable real quick Johnny one

1:04:08

one last question I just I

1:04:10

love that name and I think

1:04:12

I love that name Yeah, yeah,

1:04:14

I love that name so much

1:04:16

because one of my old time

1:04:18

probably my favorite comedy of all

1:04:20

time was um the in-laws with

1:04:22

Peter Falk Okay, I don't think

1:04:24

I'm familiar with you guys Watch

1:04:26

the movie. It's the kind of

1:04:29

movie you can't see once. You

1:04:31

have to see it a hundred

1:04:33

fucking times And every time you

1:04:35

watch the in-laws with don't get

1:04:37

the bullshit remake Typical Hollywood bullshit.

1:04:39

Yeah. Yeah. Don't you it's there

1:04:41

you got it's Peter Falk and

1:04:43

Alan Arkin who was in my

1:04:45

movie. Oh yes right Peter Falk

1:04:47

Alan Arkin. I believe it was

1:04:49

1980 81 and it was the

1:04:51

in-laws Peter fucking fork is a

1:04:54

comedic genius. And you remember him?

1:04:56

Serpentine Shell! Shelley! She'll be! Yeah.

1:04:58

So I think that's one of

1:05:00

the reasons I love Shelley so

1:05:02

much. But I'm telling you guys,

1:05:04

if you get a chance, check

1:05:06

out the laws with Peter Falk.

1:05:08

But great stuff. Yeah, Johnny, one

1:05:10

last question for me, I gotta

1:05:12

ask you this, because I always

1:05:14

wanted about this. Do you know?

1:05:16

A Frank Rizzo or a Saul

1:05:18

Rosenberg or a Jack To a...

1:05:21

Are these characters just out of

1:05:23

your comedic genius brain or are

1:05:25

they based on people you went

1:05:27

to school with? Families, co-workers, what?

1:05:29

You know, it's funny that you

1:05:31

ask me that because, you know,

1:05:33

for a long, long time, I've

1:05:35

been saying this for a long

1:05:37

time. When I do Frank Rizzo,

1:05:39

that's my dad. Whenever you hear

1:05:41

that character, whenever you hear me

1:05:43

do Saul Rosenberg, Saul Rosenberg, That's

1:05:45

my mom. So, so now if

1:05:48

you ever see me on family

1:05:50

guy, I've been on family guy

1:05:52

20. 21 years, 20 years, I

1:05:54

don't know. Yeah, so if you

1:05:56

see me on family guy, this

1:05:58

is the funniest part about my

1:06:00

mom. My mom had like these

1:06:02

two different personalities. She was the

1:06:04

funniest fucking woman you ever ever

1:06:06

met. So if you listen to

1:06:08

Saul Rosenberg, that was one way

1:06:10

my mom would be. Like, you

1:06:12

know, okay, so. okay so make

1:06:15

sure I'll have I'll bring my

1:06:17

shoes and I'll like glasses so

1:06:19

I have them so I have

1:06:21

them and you know and it

1:06:23

was very just matter of factly

1:06:25

very low-key and then I when

1:06:27

I I didn't want to give

1:06:29

up Sal Rosenberg for family guy

1:06:31

because that's a jerky boys character

1:06:33

right so I said what will

1:06:35

do I told you know me

1:06:37

and McFarlin got together and I

1:06:40

said what we'll do is come

1:06:42

up with a new character and

1:06:44

I just kind of took the

1:06:46

other side of my mom that

1:06:48

wouldn't think twice to slap you

1:06:50

in the fucking mouth. My mom

1:06:52

was a, she was a tough

1:06:54

broad. And if you stepped out

1:06:56

a line or you back talk

1:06:58

to her, you literally got smacked

1:07:00

across the fucking mouth and her

1:07:02

voice went like that. So that's

1:07:04

where you hear that, Moore Goldman

1:07:07

is so different, he's the other

1:07:09

side. So Moore Goldman is more

1:07:11

like, Peter, well, are you gonna

1:07:13

help me burn down that pharmacy

1:07:15

or what? What's the matter with

1:07:17

you? So it's a much, it's,

1:07:19

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

1:07:21

it's a much more amped up

1:07:23

like ready to broil kind of

1:07:25

guy and and that's that's the

1:07:27

difference between more Goldman on family

1:07:29

guy and so and I think

1:07:31

once or twice on family guy

1:07:34

we actually referenced Saul Rosenberg in

1:07:36

the jerky boys yeah but but

1:07:38

it's it's fun meaning like that's

1:07:40

his long loss cousin right right

1:07:42

so that's the different but so

1:07:44

uh Saul Rosenberg whenever you hear

1:07:46

that character you know I'm doing

1:07:48

my mom Whenever you hear Frank

1:07:50

Rizzo, that's my father, Kistle, the

1:07:52

character, old man, Kistle, that's my

1:07:54

uncle Vinny. If you look at

1:07:56

Jerky Boy's Five. Jerky Boy's Five

1:07:58

was dedicated. in 1998, my uncle

1:08:01

Vinny passed away. And I dedicated

1:08:03

Jerki Boy's Five to his memory

1:08:05

because Kissel was, Kissel is my

1:08:07

uncle Vinny. But Kamal actually does

1:08:09

the character Kissel. Yeah. Oh yeah.

1:08:11

He used to go over to

1:08:13

my uncle's place and my uncle

1:08:15

used to tell him all kinds

1:08:17

of funny fucking stories. And that's

1:08:19

a whole, that, that would be,

1:08:21

we'd be here for another two

1:08:23

hours. Oh yeah, right, right, right.

1:08:26

But that, but that, but that

1:08:28

Kissel character character, they're all people

1:08:30

that I've known in my You

1:08:32

know, Jack Torres is another story.

1:08:34

It was a person that my

1:08:36

dad was trying to help out.

1:08:38

And but they, they, all of

1:08:40

these stories are there. And over

1:08:42

the years, they're in print, you

1:08:44

know, for Rolling Stone magazine. So

1:08:46

the stories are there, but you,

1:08:48

just, it's nice to be able

1:08:50

to share it again. So fans

1:08:53

get to say where these characters

1:08:55

come from. So I took these

1:08:57

characters from real life and I

1:08:59

literally turned them into cartoons. And

1:09:01

they're fucking incredible. Amazing. Last one.

1:09:03

Every time I'm like, that's it.

1:09:05

No, I got, I can't ask

1:09:07

them one. One more I'm going

1:09:09

to ask you about, and that

1:09:11

is a favorite of everybody's, and

1:09:13

that's testing for jeopardy. That poor

1:09:15

fucking bastard on the other. I

1:09:17

love too jeopardy. We have people

1:09:20

that write to us on our

1:09:22

show, right, that are fans of

1:09:24

yours, but they follow our podcast.

1:09:26

And his tagline is, Game Show

1:09:28

Lovers. Game Show Lovers. Who put

1:09:30

down in the air? Well, it

1:09:32

shouldn't say lovers, because I didn't

1:09:34

print the word, fuck, and love.

1:09:36

That sounds like pussy shit to

1:09:38

me. And he's like, oh, I'm

1:09:40

sorry. I'm sorry. You know, that

1:09:42

guy was a Vietnam vet. When

1:09:44

we had to get the clearance

1:09:47

from him, I think it was

1:09:49

a five, I gave him $500

1:09:51

for his best charity. And he

1:09:53

turned out to be, what a

1:09:55

wonderful person. And you know, everybody,

1:09:57

they shoot his lines at me

1:09:59

all day long, I love it.

1:10:01

So they'll say, why are you

1:10:03

yelling? And remember, if anybody ever

1:10:05

asked you this, he doesn't say

1:10:07

screaming, he says screaming. Yeah, screaming.

1:10:09

Oh, that's right. Are you telling

1:10:12

in cursing and screaming? And I

1:10:14

say, oh, whoa, whoa, what am

1:10:16

I supposed to sound like a

1:10:18

fucking parody dittle? And I'm talking,

1:10:20

and I said, Willie, if you

1:10:22

can't whip out answers like that,

1:10:24

that man, Mr. Trebeck, is liable

1:10:26

to go to a commercial break

1:10:28

and punch your fucking mouth loose.

1:10:30

Yes. Yeah. And Alex Trebeck got

1:10:32

a hold of that. Somebody gave

1:10:34

that to him and sent it

1:10:36

to him and and he was

1:10:39

one of the biggest jerky boys

1:10:41

fans of all time. That's amazing.

1:10:43

That's amazing. Last thing I'm gonna

1:10:45

leave you with and this was

1:10:47

one of the when I originally

1:10:49

we talked you're like kiss Tell

1:10:51

us your kiss connection because people

1:10:53

have no idea about this and

1:10:55

we'll finish it there Listen, we're

1:10:57

gonna have you back. Please because

1:10:59

we can do this fucking all

1:11:01

day. Oh, yeah, tell us your

1:11:03

kiss connection, please It's actually a

1:11:06

very cool one My my mom

1:11:08

we were just talking about Sal

1:11:10

Rosenberg inspiration all the way back

1:11:12

in the late 70s. I think

1:11:14

it was even early late 70s

1:11:16

early 80s there was a company

1:11:18

in New York City. I don't

1:11:20

remember the street. It was on

1:11:22

maybe 80 81 81st Street, 79th

1:11:24

Street, I don't remember where, but

1:11:26

it was a company called Bells.

1:11:28

And what they did was they

1:11:31

had, they were an answering service

1:11:33

for celebrities. And because back then,

1:11:35

this is before the advent of,

1:11:37

you know, answering machines at the

1:11:39

house. And so this is right

1:11:41

around the time answering machines were,

1:11:43

you know, coming in. So what

1:11:45

celebrities would have personal operators. So

1:11:47

my mom was one of the

1:11:49

operators at Bells. and she handled

1:11:51

John Travolta, she handled Brooke Shields

1:11:53

and one of her other biggest

1:11:55

clients was Gene Simmons from Kansas.

1:11:58

Holy shit. Yeah, and every Christmas

1:12:00

Gene Simmons would send my mom

1:12:02

a life-size chocolate record from a

1:12:04

chocolate company and it was one

1:12:06

of the coolest things. And at

1:12:08

the time, you know, this kiss

1:12:10

was huge at that time. Yes.

1:12:12

And my mom was like a

1:12:14

celebrity in the house because back

1:12:16

then, you know, nobody in the

1:12:18

house was famous and the jerky

1:12:20

boys, you know, so you're going

1:12:22

way, way back. But Jean Simmons

1:12:25

is sending my mom chocolate records

1:12:27

that look like gold records as

1:12:29

a Christmas present. So that's that's

1:12:31

my little, my little connection to

1:12:33

kiss. Amazing, amazing. Yeah. Johnny, this

1:12:35

has been absolutely beyond amazing. Man,

1:12:37

thank you so much for all

1:12:39

your time for all your stories.

1:12:41

Our listeners love it. This is

1:12:43

one of the biggest treats for

1:12:45

Zeus and I that you could

1:12:47

ever imagine. Well, I want to

1:12:49

first, I want to thank you

1:12:52

guys for having me on and

1:12:54

very important. Most important all the

1:12:56

time I say this in every

1:12:58

interview, the fans. I always want

1:13:00

to give a big shout out

1:13:02

to the fans. They deserve all

1:13:04

the accolades because the fans are

1:13:06

what The jerky boys are here

1:13:08

because the people love the jerky

1:13:10

boys. Exactly. Without the fans, there's

1:13:12

nothing and that goes for everybody.

1:13:14

The fans always get, I always

1:13:17

want to say thank you and

1:13:19

a big appreciation shout out to

1:13:21

the fans. And also too, if

1:13:23

I can, mention my cameos. My

1:13:25

cameos, people are going nuts for

1:13:27

my cameos. You just go to

1:13:29

cameo.com.com. and people, they go nuts

1:13:31

for my cameos. Any character you

1:13:33

want, I do any of the

1:13:35

characters, I do whatever you want,

1:13:37

more from family guy, any of

1:13:39

the jerky boys characters, and any

1:13:41

of the situations, I do all

1:13:44

kinds of birthdays, you name the

1:13:46

event. People do my cameos, they

1:13:48

get my cameos, just me to

1:13:50

fucking insult their fucking brothers or

1:13:52

their cousins, and you know, they

1:13:54

love that shit. But Johnny, you

1:13:56

did that for me, for one

1:13:58

of my best friends growing up,

1:14:00

and his name is Mike, his

1:14:02

father's name is Arthur. I think

1:14:04

Arthur is like 77. years old.

1:14:06

Oh yeah, I got a year

1:14:08

and a half ago. You did

1:14:11

something about it, boating and stuff.

1:14:13

My buddy, Mike, bought it for

1:14:15

him. He said his father still

1:14:17

says, that's the greatest gift he's

1:14:19

ever got. Oh, I appreciate that

1:14:21

man. And I do. My audience

1:14:23

is the same way when I

1:14:25

came in 40 years ago. My

1:14:27

demographic goes from five years old

1:14:29

up to 95 years old. And

1:14:31

people just love it. It's good

1:14:33

stuff. And you know what? The

1:14:35

jerky boy sometimes gets a bum

1:14:38

rap for being filthy. The jerky

1:14:40

voice is not filthy. There's only

1:14:42

two characters that really curse. And

1:14:44

it's Frank Rizzo every now and

1:14:46

again, but there's never, and the

1:14:48

gay character. But there's never any

1:14:50

gratuitous cursing. Never. You don't, you

1:14:52

don't see me go there as

1:14:54

Frank Rizzo and go, yeah, I'll

1:14:56

wrap your fucking cop, your cock's

1:14:58

sucking mother fucking. Yeah, I don't

1:15:00

do that shit. Right, right, right.

1:15:03

It's all based on real situations

1:15:05

and the way my dad would

1:15:07

speak, the way my character Jack

1:15:09

would speak, it's all colorful shit

1:15:11

and that's why people love the

1:15:13

jerky boys because it's so fucking

1:15:15

realistic. And so, but again, the

1:15:17

jerky boys are not as blue

1:15:19

as people once thought, you know,

1:15:21

Ann Heiser Bush, subway sandwiches, Lee

1:15:23

Jeans Corporation, I've done commercials for

1:15:25

all these people because they've got

1:15:27

it. They knew that it really,

1:15:30

I could do anything, I don't

1:15:32

have to be blue. Now, where

1:15:34

else can they find you besides

1:15:36

your cameo? Is there a website

1:15:38

and everything where they can buy

1:15:40

anything? Yeah, I'm refurbishing. It's a

1:15:42

jerky boy's store. The jerky boy's

1:15:44

store. Yeah, but but I'm actually

1:15:46

in the midst right now of

1:15:48

getting revamping that. But it's it's

1:15:50

still there. It's the jerky boy's

1:15:52

store. But the cameos right now

1:15:54

are, you know, people are just

1:15:57

fucking going nuts over them. So

1:15:59

as I do this and. When

1:16:01

I get everything else up and

1:16:03

tidied up, I'll I'll I'll definitely

1:16:05

come back and we'll shoot. We'll

1:16:07

give We've done this show now

1:16:09

seven years. We've had kiss members

1:16:11

on this show. We've had rock

1:16:13

stars. We've got all this stuff.

1:16:15

I'm telling you. Who's going to

1:16:17

have from KISS? Ace. Ace Freel.

1:16:19

Bruce Kulek. We've met Gene. We've,

1:16:21

you know, met Tommy and Eric

1:16:24

and. I love Ace. I love

1:16:26

Ace. Let me tell you something.

1:16:28

I'm a guitar player. I'm a

1:16:30

guitar player. I'm a guitar player.

1:16:32

Ace comes from the greatest era

1:16:34

in my book yeah all seven

1:16:36

guitar players all those all those

1:16:38

glam rock guys some Mick Ronson,

1:16:40

Mick Ralph's you know Ace freely

1:16:42

all of those guys from that

1:16:44

era in my opinion they had

1:16:46

the most feel when they played

1:16:49

guitar you know Jimmy Page all

1:16:51

these guys there was so much

1:16:53

feel there and Ace is all

1:16:55

he's part of that group yeah

1:16:57

and you know Eric Harb Just

1:16:59

get a little side note. He's

1:17:01

right from my backyard up here.

1:17:03

He's from Middletown Middletown. Yeah Middletown

1:17:05

so he Eric heart was from

1:17:07

Middletown, New York and a small

1:17:09

world. Yeah, right. Big time big

1:17:11

time. So what I want to

1:17:13

say is like this is my

1:17:16

favorite episode I've ever done on

1:17:18

this show. It's a nice. Thank

1:17:20

you guys. Thank you. And we

1:17:22

ran a kiss podcast, but this

1:17:24

is the one that I'm like

1:17:26

I can't wait for our listeners

1:17:28

to hear because they get us

1:17:30

and this is more of a

1:17:32

personal episode. Yes. And so Johnny,

1:17:34

we can't thank you enough. We

1:17:36

can't wait to get you back

1:17:38

and much love to you appreciate

1:17:40

you. Thank you guys. I want

1:17:43

to say thank you again and

1:17:45

again. Thank you to the fans.

1:17:47

I really appreciate you guys having

1:17:49

me on and cameo.com/Johnny Brennan. Thanks

1:17:51

again guys. Thank you. Till next

1:17:53

time. Peace out. Oh,

1:17:57

you over here? Yeah, I'm over here now.

1:18:01

Zeus, it's it's me. want I

1:18:03

want to end the

1:18:05

show now. now. Jesus Christ, Christ,

1:18:07

Tom. Jesus Christ. Let's

1:18:09

end the show now now we got

1:18:12

the muscle. got the muscle.