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Music Welcome
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to the show. down cast. You
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are listening to our 40, 40
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previews of the college football
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bull season. I'm Spencer
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Hall. That's Holly Anderson. that's
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Jason Curry. That's Michael Server. He
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likes to chime in from time to time, especially when we talk about
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Clamson. You said chime, that means we're on the next
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bowl game. On to the next bowl game!
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the game above sports
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Bowl. That's right, 2
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p .m. the 26th in
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the D Detroit, Michigan.
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We'll say nothing bad about Detroit, Michigan, because
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as a bowl destination, everyone has a
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lot of fun in this bowl game. Anyone
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you've ever talked to who went there,
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absolutely loves it. Citation needed. Yeah.
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no for real. No, for real,
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Like the, all like talk to players, talk to
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coaches. They do a great job with this game.
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All right. I'm about about to compliment this
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bowl in several ways. I just want to, You
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know, make sure you get your feet set there. I'm
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ready. First of all, it's the sports
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bowl. That's what we're calling it. I
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will get to why. Thursday,
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December 26, 2024, 2 p
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.m. ESPN, Ford
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Field, Detroit, Michigan. seven
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and five Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh? Pittsburgh.
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That was Russian of
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me. Versus seven and five
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Toledo. Up. Pit is
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favored by 7. Um The
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over under in this game this game
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is half right now, a half
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right now, which has to
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make Duzzi absolutely insane. On which end too
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high or too low? Really? which end? to
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or too low? to figure what
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it make him insane because he
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wants that many or he doesn't trying to figure
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would it make him insane cuz he
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wants that just doesn't want that to score a
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lot of wants to score a lot of is a
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is a thing thing that sure knows about
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him. Yeah. knows about him. Yeah. Yeah. you. Thank
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you for that. you for that Anyway.
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these two teams two teams played
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games back games back in the
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two out took two out of
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three The full name, as you mentioned, Spencer,
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is full name, as you mentioned, Spencer,
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is The actual sponsor is a the actual sponsor.
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of an is a little bit of
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an great one. Game Above Sports is a strategic
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a strategic investment
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company a is Not Dave and Buster's,
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like I I thought. the more the
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more reason to call it the
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sports Bowl. And the And the credentialing site
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says says Quick Lane. So that's how how
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you know this game by the way
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It's the one that used to
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be the quick to be which was
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Bowl, created as a replacement for
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the defunct little for the defunct Little Caesar's Pizza
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was was known for being tied to
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to Hungry via an exclusive stadium deal
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deal, then out of pizza pizza before half-time.
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one point I did not know this. I learned
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this this year I don't think that I don't
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think we've ever dropped this piece of lore before
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of lore one point this could have been even weirder
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been even weirder. were at
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one point point the possibility
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of moving the Little of moving the
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the street. know what's across
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the street? street. You know what's home
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stadium of the Detroit Tigers
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Park, an outdoor of game. Tigers,
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as an outdoor bowl game. In
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Detroit. in December. Okay. Anyway,
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this is Pitt's second this
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is Pitt's second appearance in this
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game. They beat Eastern Michigan here
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in 2019. in 2019. I would would like
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to introduce a new feature for
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this episode. I I have combed
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through all the previous info. of of
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game and I'm just gonna pull
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some remember that guys out of
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them out of you don't care that
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like which bull like Warner was
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in before his big NFL career in
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if I big want to know
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that previous if I'm me this
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game include Daniel Jones MVPs of this
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game at our own Diego
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Jones. Can he pick it at our
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own Diego also This
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also give give... the Sports
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Bowl one compliment before we turn fully to
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the to the football has
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the has the piece of bowl
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bull literature ever seen, seen
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which is available on the a
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PDF, again is a is again
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this game is 26th, so the teams, their
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the teams their families the fans,
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you're fans you're spending your
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holiday in in Detroit. The game
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provides for visitors and
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fans a PDF of of things
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things to do around the
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stadium in that neighborhood that
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what is open on
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Christmas Day. what is open on
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thoughtful. Day. That is
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thoughtful. And that's... I wanted to
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say does this fall into your
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category of of that actually try? We're
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gonna get to that. Yeah, we did
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a lot did a lot of, we did a lot of grousing about
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what happens to the ESPN to the and so
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I would like to focus a little
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bit focus a this episode on games that are
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doing it right, and by doing it
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right, by doing I mean literally trying it all.
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all. You know, you're You know, you're
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welcoming people into your community. giving some giving
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some indication that you're not just
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creating a a product. product. And here, this this
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is just an example. It wasn't hard.
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It's this little thing they've put
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out that's gonna make life a lot
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easier for a bunch of to
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families who maybe didn't plan on... for a
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bunch of Christmas this far away
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from home. maybe didn't talk football. So,
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on the subject of football,
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on this far away from they Let's
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how to pronounce So on the subject of
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football, on word, as if someone
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would think it's how to pronounce Game
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but no. It's game above, so. That is weirdly
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is weirdly thoughtful that One word
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that at some point means at some point
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how do says how do you say
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that? How do you pronounce the words
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game and above when you put them
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together? Gotta tell you, got me above it.
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Get me above it. That's me a
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me above. This is also, if you go to the
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is also if you go to the website,
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they're like above does many things and you're
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like, oh like, oh brother. That's never a
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good answer for for if I'm I'm dealing with
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the company I wanted to be like
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cloud info Cyber what am I do you want do you
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do you want my money What do you
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want give me you give me for my money
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just tell me that you can't You want us to keep
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us to keep the the people
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who keep rubber stamping our budgets
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and turning the other way when we
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blow up civilian weddings in another hemisphere. in
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another Do not Do
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not Google Game Above, Olepo Wedding. Do
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not. Game Above has with the
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Idaho the Idaho Ballet. there you
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go, that's something. Thank you, that's helpful in
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some way. you. Collaborated at what? in some way. who
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could say? It doesn't go what? I, who could say?
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It doesn't go football. cyber. To
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football. Pit. Pit. Boy man, man. want wanna
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know what a pit a was? ear This
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is a pit year. pit ear. How did
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pit start? Seven and oh! The The world is your
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oyster. Then Eli Holstein got got
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injured and then the world turned into
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a bad oyster and you started you all
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over the place, that's right. all over the place.
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That's right. Eli there starting quarterback started
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or may not be available be
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available time. When asked this week
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about availability, Pat Narduzzi said
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the following. following. This is probably the
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most banged up football team
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I've been around in my career
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career. For anybody who has followed
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Narduzzi and and Pat and Pit football, That's
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a lot. entire model of entire model
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of football is getting banged up
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is the this is the most
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banged up football team. ever been
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ever been around. In addition to that, When
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when asked about Holstein's
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as participation said. and
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his participation
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said, we're hoping I'm morning.
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morning when driving into
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work. Coach, you gotta open
8:14
your eyes to drive. gotta open
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your eyes to Not if
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you're in the in the little
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Apple car, right? If you're
8:22
in your Apple car. Show
8:24
your work. Yeah, and that's right, you're the
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do's. dues. And you're driving into work, and thinking
8:28
about life about life, Eli Eli Holstein. And you're
8:31
you're like, dear God, grant me grant
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me two things. One, a pristine
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For the Love Love of God by
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Steve The whole video, I The whole
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video, I need it to to
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YouTube HD, where he's on on Mount Shasta
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It it looks like he's communing
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with God with God whatever or he's
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he's And the second thing is
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I need thing is I healthy Eli
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Holstein so that that when I
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drive little apple car work, down the hills
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of of Pittsburgh. And I looking like
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the coolest dude like the have
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a functioning I have a the
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love of God give me
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a whole For the love of God, give me whole
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all team, please. That's
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all. Thanks, coach. Yeah. So
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that's pit. Let's pit. Hey, do
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you want you do wanna
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watch the seventh ranked team
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in the the MAC football? football?
9:20
Watch this bowl game, is there. Toledo's Toledo,
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boy, I really looked for a long
9:24
time for something that Toledo was
9:26
exceptional at. at. And let me tell
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you what, they're pretty much the seventh
9:30
best team in the Mac at
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everything. team in the Mac it. everything.
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That's I usually can't say this about
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Toledo football. about This is a mid -ass Toledo
9:38
a football team. rockets sorry about it.
9:40
Very sorry about have no regrets in this
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estimate. in this Pit Pit should win, win, I'm
9:44
pretty sure they're better than the seventh best team
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in the than the seventh best team in the feel
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like for a while now a sort of just
9:51
been sort that been like assumed that Toledo
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is... Probably really good, right? right and
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for i mean mean the last time last
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time know mean, you know last year they had
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a lot of They're the the bala of back, they
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get the shine. Yeah,
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like I think this is the
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year where you go. you
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made. mid, you're mid, like literally
10:10
mid, like you are right
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there in the middle of
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the middest geographic conference. Congratulations
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on being the most central football
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team of all football teams.
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Oh, it's rate bull time.
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Rate bowl. What do you mean? Rape Bowl?
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just listed on the ESPN website is rate
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bowl. Don't mind if we do. Thursday,
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December 26th, 5 .30
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p .m. ESPN. Chase
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Field, Phoenix, Arizona. Seven and
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five Rutgers in eight and
10:44
four K state. These teams
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have played once before in
10:48
the 2006 Texas Bowl, which
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was a 37 to Rutgers
10:52
route. The splash page on
10:54
this website, which is a
10:56
little drive through window on
10:58
the Fiesta Bowl website, makes
11:00
a bold claim. College football's
11:02
only big 10 versus big
11:04
12 matchup. This does
11:06
not seem like it's possible. So
11:08
I asked the chat bot on... the
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website. is this really the
11:13
only Big 10 Big 12 matchup? And
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the answer it gave me was the rate
11:17
below will feature a matchup between the
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Big 10 conference qualifier and the Big 12
11:21
conference qualifier and then gave me a
11:23
seat geek ad. The
11:26
chatbot is not helpful. Uh, why do
11:28
you know this bowl game? Oh, Lord,
11:30
where to begin? -hmm This
11:34
this has been. variously throughout the
11:36
years. The copper bowl,
11:38
The Domino's Pizza Copper Bowl, The
11:40
Wiser Lock Copper Bowl The
11:43
copper Bowl again, the Insight
11:45
.com bowl, then just the
11:47
Insight Bowl after.com bowls fell out of
11:49
fashion. the Buffalo Wild
11:51
Wings Bowl for two seasons not
11:53
the Buffalo Wild Wings Citrus Bowl
11:55
That's different then the Ticket City
11:57
Cactus Bowl, than the Motel Six
11:59
Cactus. bowl. Then just the cactus
12:02
bowl to be be confused with
12:04
the with the Division II all-star game, played
12:06
from 2011 that was that was
12:08
the called the then the cheese it
12:10
bowl, it the cheese the cheese it citrus
12:12
bowl, and then the guaranteed rate 2023, why
12:14
they just decided to call
12:16
it to call it the which makes
12:18
it sound like a simple
12:21
sentence. like a simple not
12:23
understand. not understand. so half the stuff
12:25
here. here. when you when you just
12:27
try exploring for information about the the
12:29
rate you end up on up on pages,
12:31
pages, I guess, a little bit of
12:33
an a of mystery. of an error of mystery. Like
12:35
many of us, the the just longs
12:37
to slink into the desert and
12:39
lose their identity. their identity. Maybe because it it
12:42
started at U of A and has has also been
12:44
played at Arizona It flies under the
12:46
radar radar. this game has been has been played
12:48
at 2016. Jason knew this
12:50
immediately. I swear I've watched this game
12:52
every year and never picked up
12:54
on this. With this appearance, year will
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break a tie with this. With most appearances
12:59
in this game at five break a tie
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with before in 2005.
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appearances in this game at five. Rutgers
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to be remembered
13:08
before in 2005. Previous MVPs,
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guys to be remembered, include
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Rudy Carpenter. Blake
13:14
Bell. And the year Mark Bolter won the
13:17
MVP in Bolger won the
13:19
MVP in 1998, was a
13:21
MVP was a Missouri
13:23
defensive tackle with the
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most name I have I heard,
13:28
heard, Jeff That is some sports
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That is some sports into a hotel
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a hotel name. to
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scam to scan a few extra
13:37
points. points. There is a is
13:40
a seating section the the
13:42
stadium that just says says cold
13:44
and and cheeseburgers tables take it. to
13:46
see what this was what this was
13:48
that's when I found out when I found
13:50
out cold a sports bar. That's
13:52
what it's called. bar. That's what
13:54
it's called. That's why I'm why I'm
13:56
going to start my
13:58
competitor, colder beers and bigger. cheeseburgers. of
14:01
bigger cheeseburgers. Let's read from
14:03
the let's read Food is permitted as long
14:05
as it's in a clear is permitted as
14:07
long as it's in a clear plastic bag.
14:09
So start challenging that. Can I just pour
14:11
a in a clear
14:14
plastic gumbo? Like in a clear got
14:16
my bag. right here chili
14:18
IV right here, Officer. My
14:20
specimen bag I'm so glad you
14:22
guys I'm so glad you medical attention
14:25
because something else that's weird in
14:27
these stadium rules and I read
14:29
them all them a little unusual. they're a
14:31
Anyone expecting urgent phone calls, i
14:33
.e. calls, i.e. should leave their name
14:35
and seat location at one of
14:37
the at one of the guest located across
14:40
from located across from sections
14:42
128 or don't know if I'm ever expecting
14:44
an emergency phone call. phone it
14:46
goes on. goes on. Please note that public
14:48
address or video video board not be permitted.
14:50
not be you're going to this game,
14:52
and you have a wife who's about
14:54
to go into a labor have an
14:56
aging parent, to into a labor or an aging
14:58
is also the only stadium I've
15:00
seen so far that explicitly
15:02
prohibits so far that shoes with wheels
15:04
or fishing nets from being brought
15:06
in. or fishing nets from
15:09
being here in. Oh fuck off cool. is I'm
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going to drop this link in the chat. I'm
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gonna drop this link can. You
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can on the Fiesta Bowl website.
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Scroll all the way back
15:19
to the beginning of the rate
15:21
back to the look at game programs
15:23
from every year, the 1991. from
15:25
every absolutely incredible. Can you guys take
15:27
a look at that real quick? Can
15:30
you guys take a look for
15:32
the reader real quick? And then I'll
15:34
wow. it for the reader. Oh
15:36
is a is a tasteful,
15:38
like leathery old. and mill
15:40
style backdrop with the
15:42
trophy in the middle. And the
15:45
trophy for that year was
15:47
a plaque a plaque by by
15:49
brass cactuses with a a giant
15:51
football atop of it of
15:53
a a smaller plaque on the plaque
15:55
on the front that
15:57
just reads in sparkling letters letters.
16:00
Domino's Pizza. It's beautiful thing I've
16:02
ever seen. I've ever seen. given
16:04
you you, award for your
16:06
recognition for your achievements in
16:08
and your achievements in Domino's
16:11
thing. Yeah. Last thing. Please keep in in
16:13
mind that while Chase has a roof,
16:15
a it does not have have heat. Here's
16:18
weather warning. The sun is expected
16:20
to set at a set at 5
16:22
p .m. Mountain 5 p.m. Mountain Standard
16:24
can be experiencing a beautiful be 6
16:26
degree day on your way to the
16:29
stadium, 66 temperatures could drop as low
16:31
as 40 degrees before the game reaches could
16:33
drop as is not allowed. before the game
16:35
reaches half-time and reentry is not
16:37
allowed. So layers. even if you're inside. if you're
16:40
inside. Layer up. This is the This
16:42
is the bowl game put on by your cheap friend. friend.
16:45
Too Too did don't don't don't drive heating bills
16:47
sky high We have, as a preview a
16:49
preview on the is a ball, which
16:51
again, this is a layers? Rutgers like so
16:53
both of layers. teams are Rutgers, and of
16:56
these teams are seven and five, and
16:58
eight I'm sorry, four five and eight
17:00
and four in that range. And
17:02
one of them is real happy
17:04
to be seven and five, because
17:06
that's the first time they've been,
17:08
they've won seven games in 10
17:10
years. in 10 not Kansas years. It's it's
17:12
Rutgers, baby. Rutgers is thrilled to
17:14
be here. Did they, they to
17:16
lose to to a bad UCLA team.
17:18
they Yeah, they did. did. They
17:20
did, they okay? Did they lose four lose a
17:22
row row at one point, you
17:24
know? know? Yeah, that also happened
17:27
to Rutgers. Rutgers. Are they, still
17:29
is it still ball up top
17:31
for Rutgers and the Scarlet
17:33
Knights? Yeah. because they may not not
17:35
have who was the who was the
17:37
anchor of their 2 ,000 -yard rushing
17:39
attack, but it won't look
17:41
much different, because that's what they
17:44
do. We're We're here to minimize
17:46
punt, and let our defense let our defense
17:48
win this game, because it's baby.
17:50
We're baby. We're gonna keep the other
17:52
On the other side, you
17:54
got Kansas State. Kansas State was
17:56
looking real good. two-thirds the way
17:58
through the the the season. Then they lost they
18:01
of their of their last four. Because they
18:03
kept turning kept turning the damn ball
18:05
over. Seven turnovers their last three three losses. If
18:07
they they could hold on to the
18:09
ball, they'd be a pretty good
18:11
football team. good it stands now, they're
18:13
just it of good. now, They were one
18:15
of the good. They were they ended up
18:17
finishing eighth in the league. they ended
18:19
teams in the eighth in the so really
18:21
not that bad 12 though, you think about
18:23
it. that Also, you they had over
18:25
200 yards, five times in their first
18:27
six games in terms of rushing
18:29
and then just twice in their last
18:31
six twice in then they're running. and then they're
18:33
was kind of the anchor that whole
18:35
thing he declared for the draft kind of won't
18:37
be there whole thing he declared for if
18:39
you want to know he won't to be yeah
18:41
if you want to know dudes from hyped to
18:44
be here it's to see dudes from Jersey
18:46
just this there being like, yeah,
18:48
there being like yeah we're drones we're drones that's the
18:50
Jersey guys in the Kansas the Kansas
18:52
State people. They're they're probably
18:55
It's probably a little bit
18:57
of a of a of a of
18:59
a bittersweet bowl for them. for them
19:01
if they take they take it. something
19:04
to live up a little something live up
19:06
to other other thing this website does that I've
19:08
never seen any other bold website do any other
19:10
bowl you can sort. do is you coach
19:12
who's ever coached in this game ever
19:14
coached in by how many times he's
19:16
won this game. times game alone, you
19:19
know who the all alone. You
19:21
coach of this bowl is? coach of
19:23
this bowl is? Snyder. So
19:29
apparently guaranteed rate
19:31
the the company changed
19:33
its name to name to rate
19:35
For reasons that the
19:37
CEO or whatever said or whatever
19:39
a really hard have a
19:41
really hard time spelling
19:43
guaranteed. so I mean I could say it's
19:45
a it's a word I could say got some
19:47
with it's got some letters in it
19:49
that really don't need to be
19:51
there. need to be there I was thinking they just
19:54
didn't feel feel like guaranteeing shit anymore. guessing
19:56
that's part of it because they're also
19:58
bringing up AI also like AI, but like... Even
20:00
with misspellings you had better SEO
20:02
with the guaranteed in there just
20:04
rate. Yeah, you Google rate You're
20:07
you're gonna be anywhere. There's right my
20:09
professors definitions of rate stories about your
20:11
your way down there The the best
20:13
result for the company still has the
20:15
word guaranteed in it. You still have
20:17
it in your Your websites Yeah,
20:20
so like I'm not buying it man.
20:22
I think it is just the They
20:25
don't want to be accused of having
20:27
guaranteed anything to anyone ever I was
20:29
gonna say a deer of bull games
20:31
in our society names Remember
20:33
this used to be the copper bowl,
20:36
so this was, again, a... An export!
20:38
A fine thing! our society's movement from
20:40
a commodity -based actual value society and
20:42
they did! Yeah, Yeah, to rate bowl.
20:44
What can you get at the rate
20:46
bowl? Could it be a guarantee rate?
20:48
Nope, we'll give you a rate! No
20:50
more naming games after concepts. It
20:53
has to be like a hog future. commodities
20:57
only The
21:00
frozen concentrated orange juice
21:02
bowl See can make a
21:04
napalm Yeah, that'd be
21:06
fine. Next game. Well,
21:12
if you were hoping,
21:15
we would get any clearer
21:17
or less dumb with our
21:19
names, we are here to
21:21
disappoint you with the 68 ventures
21:23
Bowl. We're
21:25
continuing on, Thursday December 26th
21:28
9 p .m. at Hancock Whitney
21:30
stadium home of South Alabama
21:32
and the senior Bowl. is
21:34
the successor to the also
21:36
Georgia Quarterbackly named lad Stadium.
21:38
This is the one in
21:41
Mobile, previously played as the
21:43
Mobile Alabama Bowl, the GMAC
21:45
Bowl, the go daddy .com
21:47
Bowl, then the GoDaddy Bowl,
21:49
win .com Bowl games fell out
21:51
of fashion. Then, as our
21:54
society further crumbled, became the
21:56
General Bowl and finally the
21:58
Lending Tree Bowl. This
22:00
is 7 and 5 Arkansas
22:03
7 7 and 5 Bowling Green,
22:05
Scott Leffler Jones Butch
22:07
Jones. God in heaven.
22:10
History! here's a little bit
22:12
of really mean history. really mean history.
22:14
The 2001 game between
22:17
Marshall and East Carolina was at
22:19
the time the highest score
22:21
boring bowl game of all time. of all
22:23
contained. was what was then the
22:25
comeback in bowl history.
22:27
This is the one where
22:29
Marshall was down 38 the
22:31
one ended up winning was down
22:34
38 and ended overtime. Byron double
22:36
for close to left yards. for
22:38
close to to yards. I want to
22:40
say, game game... the largest
22:42
margin a victory in
22:44
bull history. history, that right
22:46
that, beat that record
22:49
with Tulsa defeating Bowling Green 63 to
22:51
7. That record was tied a record
22:53
was tied a decade later, as you
22:55
both we were all we were
22:57
all covering that by that point
22:59
Army defeated Houston 7414 in the Armed the
23:01
arm Bowl, that particular That
23:04
particular record, of of victory
23:06
in record, was tied again
23:08
in in 2023, you might
23:10
guess guess, and LSU in
23:12
the in the Citrus Bowl in
23:14
LSU, 163 to 7, I was
23:16
scribbling up I saw, wait. and then
23:19
I record was that in a
23:21
bowl game, broken again, a
23:23
later in - the again
23:25
later in the post-season,
23:27
later in the the 2022-2023
23:30
post-season in the in
23:32
the national champion. championship game.
23:34
game. What happened there? And of
23:36
course we all remember following the 2023
23:39
game, happened there by
23:41
of course we all
23:43
remember eastern Michigan. the
23:45
2023 game, lends itself win by
23:47
South Alabama This Michigan. This
23:49
game just lends itself to the
23:51
trophy This is also a
23:53
game where, during the trophy
23:55
presentation, while the South and team were
23:57
and team, we're singing the all the
24:00
and Eastern Michigan off and
24:02
off and Alabama player. player.
24:04
Anyway, Arkey State and Bowling Green
24:06
will take the top take the
24:09
and spots and appearances this
24:11
game with five and four appearances after
24:13
this contest. this contest. be
24:15
remembered. in this game
24:18
just a a cradle parade
24:20
of mat quarterbacks. You got
24:22
your your Dan LaFeevers, your Chandler
24:24
harnesses. 68. 68 Ventures. 68 Ventures is the.
24:27
68 Ventures. is is the. 68
24:29
Ventures. is is doing really
24:31
hard work on their
24:33
website to to sound like
24:35
an evil They are failing, They
24:37
are failing, but they are
24:39
trying. a region. 68 Ventures is
24:42
a a region, for growth is
24:44
a change agent for
24:46
growth along the North Gulf
24:48
Market, adjacent markets. one
24:50
of the one of the largest
24:52
developers, and that's where I shut
24:54
my laptop I shut my laptop and Further
24:56
down further website
24:58
reads like like Fresh
25:00
off a break off a break a
25:02
break up Tumblr. We are visionaries,
25:05
risk takers, and creators,
25:07
and creators pursuit of what
25:09
in the pursuit of what
25:11
sets Our souls on fire our
25:13
souls and we have successfully
25:15
started over or egg over 20
25:17
operating companies. More of a
25:19
comment than a question. Uh-huh. 68 ventures
25:21
is too many too many ventures
25:23
is too too many ventures, The game,
25:26
however, however. I I will
25:28
say this. this, game itself is is trying. It
25:30
is trying to act as though it
25:32
is place. There is a There
25:34
is a in the category in
25:36
the bull shop. art a community
25:38
art contest place place around this
25:40
for students in 6th 12th grade.
25:42
They throw an early early Mardi Gras
25:44
parade. The skies of downtown Mobile be
25:47
filled with with beads, moon pies,
25:49
more. Oh boy, here come the
25:51
drones again. again. Flotes from 20
25:53
mystic societies are going to
25:55
participate in in the Bull Game
25:57
Gras Gropperade. There's a brand
25:59
new new top... golf team challenge. this
26:01
will be video gold if you do it
26:03
right, at Texas Bowl. So
26:06
yeah, I'm, this is what
26:08
I would like to visit at
26:11
least if not necessarily watch on
26:13
television. Jason,
26:16
I have a question. Did you watch any Arkansas State football
26:18
this year? No. No.
26:21
Why would I do that? I
26:23
was about to ask you, why
26:26
didn't you? You're like, why would I?
26:28
Did you? You pre no, I
26:30
didn't watch any. So I had to
26:32
go back and do a bit
26:34
of a season review. and
26:36
let me tell you Do you like
26:38
a team that keeps it close? The
26:41
answer is. No one likes
26:43
a team that keeps it close. Arkansas State
26:45
would be your team if you were
26:47
this person. Because.
26:49
because Only one of their wins
26:51
came by more than a TD. Every
26:53
other one of them was a single score.
26:56
They are the ultimate
26:58
ball team either. two theories
27:01
on this one
27:03
that Butch Jones is acting as
27:05
a governor on their greatness, keeping them
27:08
just ahead of most
27:10
of their competition for
27:12
the lowest possible positive
27:14
output. on Arkansas State football.
27:16
Or Butch Jones is the greatest
27:18
coach of our time. and
27:20
he has taken this Arkansas State team
27:22
to a height. really
27:24
only possible with the most
27:27
min -maxed possible possible alignment of
27:29
talent in Jonesboro, Arkansas. But
27:32
that's what you need to know. Who is
27:34
the most seven five team available? Friends,
27:38
it's Arkansas state Could it be the case
27:40
that they have uh... sort of a
27:42
mario cart rubber banding going on where whoever's
27:44
in first place that the team in
27:46
last place and since there's only two teams
27:48
on the field there those teams will
27:50
just naturally be like if Arkansas state is
27:53
beating you you will get a blue
27:55
shell, for instance. That
27:57
is 100 % what I think the case is here.
27:59
The game was... a broken in the Southern
28:01
in the that was Miss game because Otherwise, we're
28:03
going to keep everybody on the
28:05
podium. keep going to see on once,
28:07
okay? Because you're going off the track.
28:09
to see Lakitu that's happening. okay? Because
28:12
you're going off the track. On
28:14
the other side, Bowling Green seven
28:16
and five. the other side, this is,
28:18
seven and five, is the most. the most
28:20
seven and and five team
28:22
available, This this is our nation's
28:25
best almost scary team. team. Almost,
28:27
remember, this team, team, this team did
28:29
put. a good decent a into
28:31
scare into both Penn State and
28:33
Texas A &M this year, year, okay? Then they
28:35
Then they decided not to do
28:37
that, because polite. polite. but they did scare
28:39
them a little bit. there's something to
28:41
watch. there's there is something to watch like, oh
28:43
he's actually gonna play. something to watch, because
28:45
he's actually Harold play. Tight-end
28:48
Harold Fanon right? right? If you
28:50
if you Nash Nash at San Jose
28:52
State. That is is our nation's leading
28:54
receiver by by yardage. Number two. is a
28:56
tight end. who plays plays in the
28:58
Mac. Vanin Jr. 1, 342 yards. All this ,342 yards.
29:01
you All this man does is of
29:03
up the ball. a If I
29:05
told you that he just kind
29:07
of looked like a kindly bear
29:09
out there with all over a kindly
29:11
bear with honey all over his
29:13
hands, just sticking it up the ball,
29:15
the ball. That's what he does.
29:17
He's not super flashy. All that dude
29:19
does is just is just. ball. Like
29:21
Like that's all he does. Just
29:23
absorb ball, run run He's really cool
29:25
to watch if watch a chance. get
29:28
a chance. So we might poo might of the
29:30
of the smaller We We might say
29:32
that 68 is too many ventures, but one,
29:34
one, they try to be their own
29:36
their their own and in their own
29:38
place. and And two, you can watch
29:40
a talented watch a talented circus bear play I
29:42
forget whether last year year we
29:44
talked about talked about why
29:47
they're called Ventures. I don't I
29:49
don't remember doing this, but,
29:51
but but, um, I don't think
29:53
so. think so. The comes from, from,
29:55
me here, the year 1968,
29:57
in which Yagur,
30:00
Senior in
30:02
prison during during
30:04
Spring. Prague Spring.
30:07
Yep, Yep, that's why
30:09
this Alabama, whatever company,
30:11
is named Whatever company
30:14
Hey, whatever sets souls on fire. It's what
30:16
sets our soul on fire. Excuse me, whatever
30:18
sets our souls on fire. our souls
30:21
on fire? Excuse
30:23
me, whatever sets our
30:26
we go. on
30:28
fire. Say it it for this
30:30
one, at least it puts
30:32
it right up front. up front
30:35
the Lockheed Martin armed forces bowl What's it
30:37
about it about? What's it support
30:39
military charities? What is
30:41
the richest What is the richest
30:43
country in the world military charities? worry
30:46
about it. it Why does Martin?
30:48
I feel like they need to support like they need
30:50
to support Ah, you can draw
30:52
those charities? You can draw those lines
30:54
Friday December 27th noon BSPN T-C-U-s
30:56
home home stadium
30:58
in Fort Worth, Texas.
31:00
It is, man, think about about
31:03
you saw in you saw in
31:05
the Army which we're which we're
31:07
recording three days after. Think about
31:10
about everything you Navy Unload
31:12
in the the Army game
31:14
being brought to bear against
31:16
a a and six Oklahoma team. team.
31:18
I might watch this one. one. It's
31:21
worth a, it's worth a peek.
31:23
Navy has played once in 1965
31:25
and won 10 -nothing in Norman. This
31:28
is another is another ESPN
31:30
owned game with the most
31:32
darkly insane trophy that
31:34
isn't a Lord of the Rings replica
31:36
Palantir. I'm quoting the the
31:39
website, this is included. because
31:41
again, this is what this is
31:43
what they think you'll like
31:45
about it. it. Included within the
31:47
DNA of our trophy are
31:49
decommissioned pieces of Lockheed Martin
31:51
aircraft, spacecraft, and weapons that
31:53
are field tested and battle ready
31:55
the the forces that inspired it. How
31:57
do I know this game? Yeah, how do you know?
32:00
this game. It It used to be the Fort
32:02
Worth Bowl, and then it was the then it was the
32:04
forces bullets pretty much always kind of
32:06
been this way pretty much that guy
32:08
of been this way. You have your that
32:10
guy MVP's edition. You and we got
32:12
your Reynolds, Cobb. and we got a
32:14
Penny back there. and we got
32:16
a Rashad can usually get
32:19
something unique in the something unique
32:21
in for the past for the
32:23
years 20 plus years. has has the
32:25
fan the Fanfest. it's exactly what
32:27
you think a what martin fan
32:30
a would be Martin fan fest would be
32:32
military like. They show there's all kinds of
32:34
flyovers before the team that you
32:36
kinds much flyovers before the
32:38
team, that you can pretty
32:40
much can pretty much count
32:42
on like some pretty spectacular
32:45
skydiving pretty much count on some pretty
32:47
spectacular this year. There
32:49
is a photograph fest this year,
32:52
there is a What looks
32:54
like? like. I've
32:56
I've never, seen, never seen before. It's
32:58
a mechanical a you know,
33:00
surrounded by tumbling mats in a
33:02
little tumbling mats There are four grown
33:04
adults riding the same mechanical bull
33:06
at the same time, one behind
33:08
another. That's, Can you share this picture in the
33:10
chat? I need to see it. How big a bull? How big
33:12
a bull are we talking? Can you It looks like,
33:15
that's the thing, it looks like
33:17
a normal. How big a bull are we talking?
33:19
It It looks like
33:21
a normal sized bull. It's
33:23
just absolutely crammed. crammed. With
33:25
grown adults. are they
33:28
facing each other or are they in a row or?
33:30
they in a row on, hang on. hang
33:32
on it is they are one behind the other
33:34
let me see if i can get Let to
33:36
the photo. get a link
33:38
to the pose all the way, all
33:40
the way one prom pose are
33:42
not, all the are not
33:44
doing the are not they are not doing
33:47
in the air, hand clutch. Uh-huh
33:49
hands in the air for this I love the
33:51
idea of being with your bros and
33:53
being like, like, yeah we got to face
33:56
each other on the bowl. Here we go, go.
33:58
Let's see if I I can get it. Yeah, go.
34:00
we go. Sizzer me on the bull. Yes.
34:02
Okay, here's the here's the image
34:04
address. Can you guys see that?
34:06
What is happening here? The armed
34:09
forces bull. This looks so insane.
34:11
Wow. Also, that guy second from
34:13
the front woke up rough. This
34:15
is four grown JamU fans writing
34:17
what appears to be a single
34:20
mechanical bull. We saw you from
34:22
across the armed forces bull. I
34:24
saw you from across the bull.
34:26
Anyway, let's talk about the only
34:28
slightly... Do you think you have
34:31
a better or worse chance? There's
34:33
a gigantic mechanical bull bigger than
34:35
any other and it's called the
34:37
mega bull. It'd be like Fort
34:39
Worth, Fort Worth, ding, ding, ding,
34:42
ding, ring it in. That's where
34:44
it is. Yeah. Anyway, let's talk
34:46
about the only slightly... Do you
34:48
think you have a better or
34:50
worse chance of sustaining... a life-altering
34:53
head injury playing football against Navy
34:55
in this game or riding this
34:57
mechanical bull with three strangers? I'm
34:59
not making any tackles against Navy.
35:01
I've seen, because they're just going
35:04
to break my knees on the
35:06
second play. So yeah, this bull,
35:08
way more dangerous. Do you want
35:10
to talk about the football? I
35:12
would love to talk about the
35:15
football. Speaking of battle ready. Not
35:17
Oklahoma! The three! That's six and
35:19
six Oklahoma. How was your first
35:21
year in the SEC? It was
35:23
ass. Pure ass. Ninety-fourth in the
35:26
nation in scoring. A team impotent
35:28
and incapable of moving the ball
35:30
against anybody except the Alabama Crimson
35:32
Tide. Who they beat handily. What's
35:34
that got to do with this
35:37
ball game? Nothing. I just like
35:39
bringing it up. That's all. Jackson
35:41
Arnold was a quarterback in that
35:43
game. He's not even with the
35:45
team anymore. He's in the transfer
35:48
portal. lost to us in this
35:50
reality and on his way to
35:52
his next dimension. Back to Michael
35:54
Hawkins Jr. fix everything
35:56
just like firing
35:59
offensive coordinator fixed
36:01
everything. They lost
36:03
lost their last
36:05
seven. It's not a good football
36:07
team. football team. Probably lucky to be
36:09
in a in a bowl game. It's a had with offensive
36:11
coordinators. had with offensive coordinators.
36:14
they're not good. They're bad. good. be better,
36:16
Be Oklahoma. Navy, hey man, they're nine and three.
36:18
three. get off to a did get off to
36:21
a hot start, but it doesn't matter because
36:23
they beat they beat whole season's a success
36:25
because they beat Army. because They could have
36:27
been one They could And if that one was
36:29
and 11. If that one was that's really all they
36:31
give a shit about. Fortunately for them, a
36:33
they were better than that. for
36:35
them, they were better than they could
36:37
really make up that gap between
36:40
them and Oklahoma, strictly based
36:42
on Oklahoma being such ass on
36:44
being Also, on a nice a nice
36:46
balance to all of the crazy
36:48
shit that Brett likes to do
36:51
on defense would be, on how
36:53
about you defend the be, dive?
36:55
you defend the but what if I
36:57
have this crazy what if I coverage
36:59
and then I bring a
37:02
zone pressure to defend the dive?
37:04
then I bring a zone you take this
37:06
to defend the dive? How times in
37:08
a game. this How about
37:10
that? straight in the face 42 times in
37:12
a by eight and a half. that?
37:15
I'm I'm kind of intrigued
37:17
by that. by again, Navy also
37:19
lost again, Navy also lost a rice.
37:21
So yeah. Yeah, the food don't ever lose
37:23
the food. Yeah, like lose a food. good,
37:25
but, you know, but you
37:27
know, still, that's, uh, I think a lot
37:29
of it comes down to it much does
37:32
Oklahoma really want to be here? is The answer
37:34
should be not much, and that's fine, that's
37:36
fair. answer should be, not
37:38
much. And that's that's fine.
37:40
Is this where we give we give our
37:42
annual license to? to. You can phone
37:44
this one in boys. Yeah, business just it Fuck
37:46
it man. should be should be with
37:48
business decisions who gives a
37:51
shit a of it matters
37:53
I don't care you're don't care. You're
37:55
like, you play for the
37:57
blue the old old school, um, we love our
37:59
all model program. That is Colorado where we just do
38:01
it, we just do it the right, they
38:03
really do it the right way. They're at
38:05
Colorado. the right he's got those kids. He's
38:07
got them he's the right stuff. He's
38:09
got him Unless you play for a
38:11
real hard -ass like you play for a
38:14
hard ass like Dion, who gives
38:16
a shit? Business Decision
38:18
Bold decided. Gavled. away Navy.
38:20
To the bars. boys. To the
38:22
bars. The
38:30
Birmingham bowl. Finally, a a
38:32
chance to see some football. in
38:34
Birmingham, Alabama. Alabama this
38:36
season. Friday, December 27th,
38:39
December 3.30 p.m. ESp. 2024.
38:41
I'm gonna get through p .m.
38:43
quick and then I just wanna get gonna
38:45
get through this real quick and then I just
38:47
want to get out of the way and
38:49
talk about football all right the Birmingham bowl. It's It's Georgia
38:51
Tech and Vanderbilt. We love both these teams both
38:54
these the same amount of
38:56
reasons. same How do you know
38:58
this do you know this is the
39:00
John's dot com bowl begat the
39:02
BB VA compass bowl. Yeah, I
39:04
didn't for I forgot that for
39:06
I year this was the year
39:09
this was the Jared bowl
39:11
like the mall jewelry. Then something called
39:13
something called Birmingham bowl than the the
39:15
76 Birmingham Bowl and this I
39:17
I think it's just the
39:19
regular ass Birmingham Bowl It's
39:21
not at bowl. It's which removes
39:23
something of the air of
39:25
danger from it air of danger
39:27
has a a really list of
39:30
hey, remember that guys and
39:32
it's among its alumni it's I
39:34
interest you in a Mike
39:36
can i interest you in
39:38
a mike teal fellas ooh
39:40
perhaps a Jordan Matthews or
39:42
a bow Wallace quinton flowers
39:45
twice Clayton That's Clayton
39:47
Tim's music. music wow
39:49
here is Here is something else -
39:51
I did not know, despite both these
39:54
schools. being founding members of the SEC. This
39:56
This is pretty much guaranteed to be the oldest
39:58
rivalry, renewing itself in a a game because the two
40:00
schools. met the first time
40:02
in time in 1892. They have only have
40:04
only played four times this
40:06
century. They tied, the attack has won won
40:08
all of those, they tied 10,
40:11
in 1965. The The last
40:13
time Vandy won won was 1941.
40:15
In the late 60s, they the late a
40:18
rivalry discontinued a to -trophy that
40:20
they used to have
40:22
for this game that began
40:24
in 1924 called the Gold Cowbell. so
40:26
named because it's a a
40:28
golden In In 2016, they found the trophy
40:31
again at found the brought it at a school
40:33
and brought it back for the 2016
40:35
game, but they haven't played since. So
40:37
I've asked Georgia Tech if they're bringing
40:39
the they're this game. I have not
40:41
heard back yet. to this game. I have not heard
40:43
back yet. the last note I
40:45
have about the rivalry of
40:48
this game rivalry 2003 game
40:50
where game where beat Vandy in
40:52
overtime. overtime. Leading to the grimmest
40:54
sentence I have ever
40:56
seen ever a in a game of
40:58
sentences pair of Tech beat
41:00
Vanderbilt in overtime beat Cutler
41:02
led Vanderbilt in rushing Jay Cutler
41:04
led Ha ha in
41:07
rushing. Zoinks. Anyway, I kind
41:09
of just want to get
41:11
out of the I kind of just want to get
41:13
out of the way fast and let the ball take
41:15
over here, so let's go go. Yeah,
41:18
you you know what you're gonna
41:20
be gonna be watching You're gonna be watching the
41:22
grittiest combination of grittiest all of grit
41:24
them. of quarterbacks any other
41:26
game a have, Is there I know game
41:28
where we have, and I know don't at me,
41:30
but do we have any other
41:33
game in which we have me, but
41:35
do we have any other finalists going head
41:37
to head head to head ishish? No, I
41:39
don't. Do we even have another that features a
41:41
BVP finalist on either side. side? We would
41:43
have coming up next, but we're
41:45
not going to, going to. We'll we'll get
41:47
there in a get We'll get there.
41:49
a bummer. We'll get there in a
41:51
second. Such a bummer. We'll get this is by
41:53
far, I think, the most BVP
41:55
spirited. spirited. For those those not quite know, the
41:57
know, Bradley Van Pelt, the most college
41:59
football. player of all time,
42:01
my in my opinion. Bradley
42:03
Bradley Ward award winner. side
42:05
line, Diego Pavia. Diego right. Playing a
42:08
That's right. for a challenger
42:10
for this, Georgia Tech's
42:12
quarterback, King. Yes, the people's people's quarterback,
42:14
Diego himself. Did he run he run
42:16
out of gas at the end
42:18
of the of the season? Maybe, but that's what
42:20
but that's what He can't pass
42:22
to himself and he can't
42:24
block for himself for himself and... He did
42:26
did pass to himself once once. He
42:28
did. He did pass You're right!
42:30
once, but he can't do it twice. And but
42:33
he can't do it twice But hey, we
42:35
that's the problem But hey, we
42:37
got Vanderbilt to six and six
42:39
y 'all did that. we did we
42:41
did that. with our did that thoughts. I mean,
42:43
all of our happy thoughts. I mean
42:45
all of us all of you
42:47
listening here. We this shit. We did. We
42:49
pushed We pushed Vanderbilt
42:51
to six six and to
42:53
the Birmingham. I may say so say so
42:55
the three of us us. I think we generate
42:57
I think we a a lot of
42:59
of Atlanta moxie to
43:02
to propel. beloved beloved
43:04
bees. alma mater. That's
43:07
Mater. To their own That's
43:09
right to their own Did I attend
43:11
a Did I attend a football game while
43:13
I was there? there? Not one. Not one. one.
43:15
But... Probably one else one
43:17
else to either. who was the quarterback
43:19
when you were there? quarterback when would
43:21
be there? That would be Reggie Ball. There
43:23
were times when very few
43:25
people attended. attended. Yeah,
43:28
attended. attended. So,
43:30
wouldn't watch that shit. watch that shit. Yeah. I have
43:32
have as many wins against Georgia as
43:34
he does as he does. So,
43:36
yeah. The leading receiver, Eric
43:38
Singleton, receiver Eric Singleton
43:40
will not be there for
43:43
Georgia Tech. King's going to get it get
43:45
it done, no matter what.
43:47
who had more By the way, who
43:49
had more had more had more yardage? Was
43:51
it Diego Papia Papia or Haynes King? Yardage
43:53
through the air or on
43:55
the ground or combined or combined.
43:57
I should clarify total yardage
43:59
on on. Ground and by air for
44:01
including scrambling I would say king
44:03
I'm gonna go Haynes King because
44:06
every snap He's the only one
44:08
who touches the ball. They do
44:10
not ever do anything Other than
44:12
run him straight forward It really
44:14
says something about the ACC that
44:16
no one ever thought to stop
44:18
him this entire season No one
44:20
did but no one did but
44:22
again a shirt with his name
44:24
on it and everything He's the
44:27
reigning king for a reason, Diego
44:29
Pavia had 2,849 yards. Haynes king
44:31
had 2,480. But all of each
44:33
of those yards are both quarterbacks.
44:35
Yeah. probably done with three people
44:37
on their backs. So translated for
44:39
somebody who actually had people blocking
44:41
consistently for them. It's like 5,000
44:43
yards apiece. Congratulations gentlemen. You are
44:46
the gritty as quarterbacks. This is
44:48
one of those bull games where
44:50
I really think both teams actually
44:52
want to be there and do
44:54
this shit and go bowling. Because
44:56
going bowling is an important part
44:58
of the Birmingham bowl experience. You
45:00
go out to Vistavia lanes. Get
45:02
you a lane, get you some
45:04
funny shoes. Maybe get stuck in
45:07
an earn. Yeah, get stuck in
45:09
an urn. Follow the Birmingham tradition
45:11
of going to a party and
45:13
getting stuck in an urn and
45:15
then being like, get me out
45:17
of here! That guy should be
45:19
the grand marshal of this game.
45:21
He should. Just reel them out
45:23
in a little urn, like on
45:25
a parade float. Yeah, but this
45:28
is a... Ballard Science can sponsor.
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Listen, y'all this is free money.
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All we do is hand on
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ideas. But yeah, Birmingham. There we
45:38
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Mm-hmm in an idea that's just
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occurring to me right now Wow,
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I'm gonna get a give you
47:34
a game that we have preview
47:36
today or about to preview and
47:38
you are going to tell me
47:40
whether it costs more or less
47:42
to get into that game with
47:44
a ticket than it does to
47:46
park your vehicle at that game
47:48
at that game Understand the rules?
47:50
Serber, I'm going to let you
47:53
go first. The Sports Bowl. Detroit,
47:55
Michigan. Okay. Pittsburgh Toledo.
47:57
It's the day
47:59
after Christmas. It's
48:01
2 p .m. You
48:03
are trying to
48:05
park at Ford
48:07
at Fordfield you have a ticket to
48:09
the game the game your your on
48:11
your mobile device. mobile device.
48:14
you about to pay more or
48:16
less to park than you did you
48:18
did to get into the game. Am I I
48:20
allowed to ask the group about
48:22
the location of Ford Field within
48:24
the city of Detroit? of Detroit?
48:27
Or no? is that frowned upon? You
48:29
can ask, but we don't know. know.
48:31
no one knows knows. It's It's pretty
48:33
central. It's pretty one of So
48:35
where it's one in some ones where
48:37
it's like out in some gonna say
48:40
it's more to to say it's it
48:42
is to attend the game.
48:44
is to attend the game. can
48:46
currently can ticket buy a ticket. is this
48:48
is... nine days before the
48:50
game you can buy a
48:52
ticket for the game buy a ticket
48:54
as low as eleven dollars
48:57
Sports in for
48:59
as low as is
49:01
30. in all Ford Field
49:04
controlled in
49:06
my opinion. $30. That is more
49:08
in my opinion.
49:11
More. More. Jason,
49:13
let's give you one. one. The 68
49:16
Ventures Bowl. Which
49:18
we just finished discussing. I
49:21
believe in this
49:24
timeline timeline is in Mobile Alabama It
49:26
is also the day also the day
49:28
after Christmas, but it is it is
49:30
9 .m. Are you going to pay more
49:33
Are you going to pay more or
49:35
less? game than you are to get
49:37
into the game than you are. been
49:39
in the game. So
49:41
having been in this downtown
49:43
this year, this walked past this
49:45
it's I believe it's usually
49:47
for baseball, softball, And
49:50
having in fact visited the sacred
49:52
site on the river on the river
49:54
Broll from a couple of years
49:56
ago, I know this
49:58
area very well. having communed
50:00
with the very same chair that
50:03
was used as an implement in
50:05
that in that that occasion and drawing on that knowledge
50:07
on that knowledge I don't am going
50:09
to say that remember remember lot that do
50:11
not remember seeing a whole lot
50:14
that was very expensive I do not see
50:16
any again I do not see
50:18
any way that getting into this
50:20
game would be very expensive correct
50:22
you see the puzzle see the I
50:24
am going to say that it
50:27
would cost more to more to park
50:30
You are are correct, but it
50:32
is closer than it is
50:34
in Detroit. Detroit. Tickets to the 68 Bowl
50:36
are going for as low as
50:38
for as low as $11 right now, a
50:41
week change out. And parking
50:43
at the 68 Ventures Bowl
50:45
at a reasonable $20. $20.
50:47
I thought, this is the whole time I whole time
50:49
I was thinking of Montgomery, we're
50:51
in Mobile, aren't we? Mobile, aren't
50:54
so So I said I said. Place it
50:56
into Montgomery and know that
50:58
I drew from the knowledge of
51:00
Montgomery and an and an applied I
51:02
don't know anything about this stadium. about the There
51:04
we go. This is still just advertising
51:06
for the game, by the way, because I'm
51:09
like for the game by the way because I'm like $32. What a fucking
51:11
let's keep it in Alabama and throw it
51:13
to you. One more round for the
51:15
Birmingham more round for the Birmingham bowl. Okay.
51:17
Birmingham bowl. Friday December It
51:19
is it is is
51:21
is mid-afternoon in Birmingham and
51:23
you've you've got two pretty
51:26
high -profile teams coming into
51:28
play play but but it's mid
51:30
-afternoon in Birmingham. Where are you
51:32
gonna park? How much are you
51:34
gonna pay? More or less? more or less
51:36
than you to get into the game. into the
51:39
game going to boldly suggest
51:41
that the ticket more more
51:43
than parking. Spencer
51:45
are correct for the first time
51:47
since we started playing this game
51:49
about ten minutes ago about 10 minutes going
51:51
from more than parking that's going for
51:53
more than else in favor
51:55
of the else in favor of
51:57
the on the anywhere on the
51:59
campus. of this, in the
52:02
vicinity of this stadium,
52:04
is $20 per space,
52:07
tickets are currently going
52:10
for, or starting at
52:12
$47 hot ticket for
52:15
the protective stadium Birmingham
52:17
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ESPN. Maybe the biggest
52:36
collection of sovereign citizens
52:38
will see in one
52:41
place until our live
52:43
show. It is 8
52:46
in 4, Texas Tech
52:48
versus 6 in 6,
52:51
Arkansas. at Simmons Bank
52:53
Liberty Stadium in Memphis Tennessee for the
52:55
Auto Zone Liberty Bull. Nice things about
52:58
the Liberty Bull. I subscribe to the
53:00
Liberty Bull newsletter year-round because it looks
53:02
as though it has been stuck up
53:04
on the bulletin board at the tire
53:07
shop, but somehow it is in your
53:09
email. This tone is affectionate and should
53:11
be read as such. This game has
53:13
always been the Liberty Bull, but why?
53:16
Because it used to be in Philadelphia.
53:18
It was the... only cold weather bull
53:20
game of its time, and as we've
53:22
explained in previous years, a group of
53:25
Atlantic City businessmen, always a great start
53:27
to a sentence, convinced the founder of
53:29
the game to move his game from
53:31
Philly to Atlantic Cities Convention Hall in
53:34
1964, and they guaranteed him $25,000 to
53:36
do this. This would be the first
53:38
major bull game played indoors. Astro turf
53:40
was in the process of being invented
53:43
and was not available for the game
53:45
so they put a four inch thick
53:47
grass surface with two inch of
53:49
burlap underneath it
53:52
as it on top
53:54
of concrete in the
53:56
convention in the To
53:58
keep the grass growing,
54:01
they installed artificial
54:03
lights that they kept
54:05
on 24 hours
54:07
a day. at a cost
54:09
of about kept on 24 hours a day at a
54:12
that was in 1964. $16,000 and that was
54:14
in only eight yards. zones were
54:16
only than 10 yards. rather than
54:18
ten yards. the very next
54:20
year year after that, the founder of
54:22
this game very wisely said said, to hell
54:24
with that and he moved the game
54:26
to Memphis game to Memphis, is I think
54:29
this is the only time
54:31
this has happened has happened. This
54:33
used to be used to be Memphis
54:35
It was renamed after the
54:37
game itself. It was renamed was
54:40
renamed Liberty in December Stadium in December 1975.
54:44
At least it's outdoors and it's
54:46
not it's not in like center. It's not
54:49
in center. it's not being held alongside
54:51
like a pageant in a hotel
54:53
ballroom. Yeah, it's not being played
54:55
on a soggy diaper of burlap
54:57
Yeah, sitting underneath being played on a soggy diaper that's
55:00
sitting of New Jersey
55:03
turf? like a That's pallets of New
55:05
Jersey turf. Yeah, that's bizarre. In MVPs,
55:07
this is a a
55:09
of coach's MVP edition previous
55:12
MVPs for the for the Liberty
55:14
Bowl Bowl include Jeff Brom, these are that
55:16
these are players mine, Jeff
55:18
Brom and his playing days, Jim Donan in
55:21
in his playing days. and Dave Ragon,
55:23
who some of you may may have heard
55:25
of. Also, one more note, I love
55:27
this, in 1959 more note. love this
55:29
in Jay Huffman was State MVP, which might
55:31
was named time I've ever be the
55:33
only time I've ever seen that
55:35
center named the MVP of a game
55:37
game. We love that. What on earth? will be appearing
55:39
be for here for the seventh
55:41
time the the most a a
55:43
couple of more than any other team because it's
55:45
fairly quick trip trip for them. Texas before
55:48
been here once before might you might not believe it
55:50
now, but the last time
55:52
Arkansas was here, everybody set offensive
55:54
records in this set you
55:56
can believe it in in this game if
55:58
you can believe it in most point scored by
56:00
one team in Liberty Bowl history was 55
56:02
by Arkansas versus Kansas in 22. The
56:04
The most points scored by the
56:06
losing team in in history All
56:08
the 53 the 53 scored by Kansas
56:10
by that game. in that game. The
56:13
Liberty Bowl Bowl does support Jude,
56:15
an org we love dearly. They have the
56:17
they have the gala at the P so
56:19
you get to watch to watch the Ducks March. The
56:21
pre -game party is sponsored by by
56:23
but it also comes with All You
56:25
Can Eat with All an open bar.
56:27
There's a parade on bar. Street, and parade
56:30
on Beel at at there's a 2 p.m. there's a
56:32
rodeo like Honest to God, the
56:34
Agra rodeo at the Agra Center. They also
56:36
are one of the very few one of the
56:38
very few games few games that have besides
56:40
shitty shirts. They shirts. They have a patch
56:42
and a souvenir football. Are Are those
56:44
images available on the on the website? Bowl
56:46
They are not. They are not. But
56:50
you can get them. Also the the the
56:52
flyer for this game, like this
56:54
game like the made announcement
56:56
you made with you
56:58
guys familiar with the mascot? mascot one
57:00
the one that the the red raider
57:02
that rides around on the horse, but like But
57:04
like plush mascot? Mm-hmm If
57:07
you guys just you guys just want to go to bowl.org.
57:09
drop this in the chat
57:11
and just scroll down to
57:13
the to the that says give
57:16
them liberty and it's got
57:18
it's got Texas Tech's the running Arkansas
57:20
the running and it kind of looks like
57:22
of looks like a you know, free
57:25
our free our imprisoned allies.
57:27
it's it's these two terrifying
57:29
plushies. oh I don't think that
57:31
don't guys liberty guys a great
57:33
idea. idea they need need less
57:35
liberty. yeah I need both of need
57:38
both of these on home
57:40
arrest immediately for safety's sake Anyway,
57:42
let's talk ball. Absolutely.
57:44
If you want a If you want a
57:46
promise you game, a I can't promise
57:48
you it'll be a good game,
57:51
but I can promise you that
57:53
something will explode because these are
57:55
two teams that are very good
57:57
at stopping themselves. themselves And also going.
57:59
going. than stopping themselves. Arkansas. They're at
58:01
a nine under on on turnover margin on the
58:04
air. If this were golf, that'd be good.
58:06
It's football. That's bad. It's football.
58:08
That's bad. Because quarterback
58:10
Taylor Green, talented, exciting.
58:12
Sometimes to give the ball to
58:14
other people other people. His Yeah, sometimes
58:17
Eight fumbles, through nine picks. That's how you how
58:19
you get a team is is nine
58:21
and turnover margin, but is in the nation
58:23
in first downs, Arkansas They're
58:25
going places what kind of places
58:27
all over the place place, man.
58:30
over the place I have here
58:32
in my notes the following
58:34
words in all caps notes the following words
58:36
in all caps. Hog go that's what Then hog
58:38
go boom. Yeah, he gave him you're
58:40
very much released on your
58:43
own recognizance all the
58:45
time Arkansas right. your own it's
58:47
uh, you're very much released
58:49
on your own Texas Tech,
58:51
eight and four, the they're the
58:53
same fucking team. This is
58:55
the same team, own. fifth in
58:57
total first downs. Should we be And
59:00
then, an eight Should we be an eight win
59:02
and four, an eight win Absolutely not,
59:04
because I'm kind of I'm kind of surprised
59:06
that they're here, but but also not, because they
59:08
got a lot of assets and a lot
59:10
of interesting stuff. For instance, they
59:12
have instance, they have quarterback
59:15
is he interesting? his name why
59:17
is he interesting? Because his name, Vaughn? Better. It
59:19
means, I looked at what it
59:21
means, it it means means the one from
59:23
the from the moors. Tech, your
59:26
quarterback is Tech. presence in a
59:28
Gothic horror novel of the 19th
59:30
century. in a Gothic horror horrifying 19th
59:32
another way is running
59:34
back way, it's if you
59:36
didn't know Taj Brooks. If you
59:38
didn't know, there's a 1500-yard ,500 Yeah,
59:40
it's a 1500-yard Russia. there
59:42
sitting there. And still playing in
59:44
this bowl game. this bowl game.
59:46
He is is one of my favorite
59:49
type of running backs because he is
59:51
to me a college football special. in that
59:53
he in that he has never had
59:55
a game 100 this year below 100 yards.
59:57
Mr. Consistency just pounding
59:59
away. He's 5 and he's listed at
1:00:01
230 which means he might weigh
1:00:03
320 pounds and And so if
1:00:06
you watch him, by the way,
1:00:08
Ultimate Hammer. longest run
1:00:10
this year at running back the
1:00:12
skilled position where sometimes you hit a
1:00:14
seam and pull away from everybody
1:00:16
unless you're Taj books because his longest
1:00:18
run is 40 yards. This is
1:00:21
he's a botchy ball. He's a botchy
1:00:23
ball. He is public transit because
1:00:25
he's just going to give everyone a
1:00:27
ride and he is fun to
1:00:29
watch as well. This This is a
1:00:31
volatile, Texas Tech is also a
1:00:34
volatile team. which is
1:00:36
going to give you the
1:00:38
ball also take the ball real
1:00:41
quick. So remember, whatever happens in this game,
1:00:43
it might not matter, because the other team
1:00:45
is going to do it right back the
1:00:47
next day. So, I
1:00:49
don't think we've discussed
1:00:51
this before about the Liberty
1:00:53
Bowl sponsor Auto Zone.
1:00:55
In 1986, there was a
1:00:57
chain of auto parts
1:00:59
stores called Auto Shack Auto
1:01:01
Shack was sued by Radio Shack. Auto
1:01:04
changed its name to AutoZone, all
1:01:07
right? was 1986 is AutoZone
1:01:09
came into being. Fast forward. to
1:01:11
to 1999. AutoZone
1:01:13
sued the owner of Radio
1:01:15
Shack RadioShack had been using, it
1:01:17
a section in its stores
1:01:19
called the power zone So AutoZone
1:01:21
lied in wait for 13
1:01:23
years for RadioShack to slip up.
1:01:25
It didn't work, but I
1:01:27
like the institutional memory at AutoZone
1:01:29
that if you fucking cross
1:01:31
them, if you make them change
1:01:34
their name, if you make
1:01:36
them not use the word shack
1:01:38
anymore, they will wait and
1:01:40
they will they will you slipping.
1:01:42
that you say you gotta be zone.
1:01:44
Oh, better not use the word zone. And
1:01:46
I say it didn't work, but it kind
1:01:48
of did, because you know, know where an auto
1:01:50
zone is, but I don't know anywhere any
1:01:52
radio shacks are. I I kind
1:01:54
of I kind of the idea
1:01:56
of ginning up artificial confusion in the
1:01:59
brands by half people drive their cars
1:02:01
through the front of radio Shacks. Also,
1:02:05
the final entry on Radio Shack's wiki page
1:02:07
is, of course, about John Boyce working
1:02:09
at Radio Shack. Is it on the wiki
1:02:11
page? Good. love
1:02:13
this! That's all you ever need to
1:02:15
know about Radio Shacks. AutoZone,
1:02:18
also home of the best chicken sandwich
1:02:20
and all of the chicken sandwich The
1:02:23
AutoZone Chicken Sandwich, shouts to
1:02:25
Treblau. AutoZone, I
1:02:27
would love to be their corporate counsel, because
1:02:29
you could send somebody. I need you to
1:02:31
get at the zone. The AutoZone, because you've
1:02:33
been subpoenaed. Yeah, of course is the
1:02:35
zone and you're in it. Yeah,
1:02:38
and you're in it. You're gonna need new parts when
1:02:40
we're done with you, putty. We're going do
1:02:42
you like we did Radio Shack. That's
1:02:44
right. Fuck off, Radio Shack.
1:02:46
Get fucked. Kids today, like
1:02:48
Radio Exactly. First question, what's
1:02:51
the radio? Yeah.
1:02:53
Great great point. Photograph,
1:02:56
Shack. Speaking
1:03:03
of soon -to -be obsolete technologies Yeah, we're going
1:03:05
to keep this one quick. All
1:03:07
right, Okay. Friday, December
1:03:09
27th, 2024, 8 p .m. Fox
1:03:11
Snapdragon Stadium. That's San Diego
1:03:13
State's new stadium. San Diego,
1:03:15
California. It's the direct to
1:03:17
direct TV Holiday Bowl nine
1:03:20
and three Syracuse versus and
1:03:22
four Washington State. Say a
1:03:24
prayer, if you will, a
1:03:26
moment of silence, a moment
1:03:28
of remembrance for a quarterbacks
1:03:30
room that once held Cam
1:03:32
Ward and John Matier, and
1:03:35
now has neither. I
1:03:37
have zero interest in talking about this game without
1:03:39
the presence of... John Matier, and so I would
1:03:41
suggest that we sing the song and keep it
1:03:43
moving you guys want to I
1:03:46
don't think it even deserves a song. Mm
1:03:48
-mm. I'm sure what it did to
1:03:50
the name. sat -graph ruins everything. What it did
1:03:52
to John Matier. The
1:03:58
Las Vegas Bowl! Friday
1:04:01
December 27th 1030 p .m.
1:04:04
at the Raiders News Stadium. Texas
1:04:06
A&M maybe you guys &M maybe you
1:04:08
guys could learn some aesthetics here
1:04:10
for for you're here temples temples to
1:04:12
football. That's something 'all could always
1:04:14
use more of, use more of. USC, well it's
1:04:16
faster than driving to the Rose
1:04:18
Bowl. Rose Bowl. It's an an ESPN game, it's
1:04:21
in Las Vegas two things that are...
1:04:23
occasionally odds with one another you can
1:04:25
usually get a good shot of coaches
1:04:27
looking uncomfortable of coaches photographed alongside dancers in those
1:04:29
big ol headdress at the in those big
1:04:31
old headdresses at the intro. SRS is all
1:04:33
over the over the it's not
1:04:35
showing up anywhere else else. This
1:04:37
is this game operates for long for long stretches
1:04:39
of time a a title sponsor because it's
1:04:41
in Las Vegas. Las Vegas. There one
1:04:43
memorable stretch where it was sponsored
1:04:46
by royal purple which was a which
1:04:48
was a excited everybody until we figured
1:04:50
out it was lube for automobiles
1:04:52
figured out it was lube for automobiles, remember some
1:04:54
guys who have been MVP of
1:04:56
the Las Vegas guys who have been MVP of the
1:04:58
Las Vegas This an all -time list. We
1:05:00
have saved the best list all-time guys We
1:05:02
have saved the best list of
1:05:05
Remember Some Guys for List. Austin
1:05:07
Collie, Willie to Atama,
1:05:09
Musselhamster Martin, Bishop Sanky.
1:05:11
And Donnell how free,
1:05:13
how about it? Damn! These teams
1:05:15
have met three times, twice in
1:05:17
games, the the 1977 Bonnet Bowl and
1:05:19
the 1975 Liberty Bowl,
1:05:22
and once in the regular
1:05:24
season in LA in
1:05:26
1964. USC has won
1:05:28
all three times and never
1:05:30
been particularly close. Something tells
1:05:32
me that Streak might
1:05:34
snap this year. this year. Two very
1:05:37
interesting things. that the teams
1:05:39
are getting to do because again even
1:05:41
ESPN owning and operating the
1:05:44
game game cannot... all the way the
1:05:46
fact that it is in Las Vegas.
1:05:48
is in Players get to design their own
1:05:50
Air to as part of their Air this
1:05:52
year. One's as part of their gift
1:05:54
package this year. And... get
1:05:56
ready. ready. will enjoy show
1:05:58
at the at the sphere. We could
1:06:00
could have threatened to send you
1:06:02
someplace worse that you never went
1:06:04
to, you because to addition to the
1:06:06
immersive to the that are currently on
1:06:08
display at the sphere. guess what the
1:06:10
teams are going to go get to
1:06:12
see. at the sphere Guess Dead. teams are going
1:06:15
to Joel to see not what not
1:06:17
the Grateful Dead Hmm from
1:06:19
Joel Hmm Darren Aranovsky's
1:06:22
look on your face. Earth The look
1:06:24
on your face is it, like, and
1:06:26
fucked up? up It's Darren
1:06:29
Aranofsky, probably some
1:06:31
light -hearted some light-hearted family fair.
1:06:33
Sure. She watch the hey, let's
1:06:35
watch the Revenant in the Sphere. That's,
1:06:37
listen, I love comedy comedy so. Sphere,
1:06:40
so, by the way, the guy who
1:06:42
runs the sphere who listens to this
1:06:44
podcast. to this podcast, has informed us. us. Dead
1:06:46
and company, have have another residency
1:06:49
coming up. Okay, up. gonna get you
1:06:51
there. gonna get you there. Coming up in March. up
1:06:53
in March. I'll go too, let's do it.
1:06:56
Dead and company will be the company be fun
1:06:58
to talk about. be fun to talk
1:07:00
about talk be fun to talk about
1:07:03
some football here, but I don't
1:07:05
want to want to. Not with USC because
1:07:07
six and six and that's bad
1:07:09
and that's bad. And if it really like
1:07:11
there's a 90 million dollar between us us and
1:07:13
what should what should happen at
1:07:15
USC. the one that's the one
1:07:17
thing protecting Lincoln Raleigh's job Hit the
1:07:20
the tables whatever weird local
1:07:22
currently serving as USC's
1:07:24
athletic director athletic director? Yeah. just
1:07:26
do some wild West Coast rich guy shit, right? Take
1:07:28
your blazer Take your blazer and your
1:07:30
collared shirt without a tie because
1:07:32
you're casual and hit the hit the tables it'd
1:07:34
probably be a probably be a safer
1:07:36
gamble than whatever's happening with USC's football
1:07:38
team right now. team right A &M,
1:07:40
they started seven and one. Let's just
1:07:43
stop there. and one. Let's just
1:07:45
Great Great year for Mike for And
1:07:47
by the way, And by the pretty good
1:07:49
first year for Mike Elko. first year
1:07:51
for Don't wanna poo poo that.
1:07:53
don't wanna poo-poo that. Starting over.
1:07:55
over. as as Texas A &M was,
1:07:57
still doing better a more a more
1:07:59
reasonable price. than his predecessor, So it
1:08:01
shouts out to out to out to out
1:08:03
to He got in the got in the zone.
1:08:06
You'll be hearing from my attorneys for
1:08:08
saying that.
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