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Sometimes. The most important advances
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in technology come from the most unexpected
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sources, but usually those
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unexpected sources turn out
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to be wrong when the Integra
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tron was built in the California desert.
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By a man who said he learned the blueprints
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from space aliens was
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it case of the former or
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the latter the? integra drawn
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is coming up today on skepta
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lloyd
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Is the most popular open-source
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for many reasons are
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You're listening
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to scoped oid I'm Brian Dunning from
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Sceptre a dot. com. The
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secrets of the Integra
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try. Rising
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from the desert and lenders California
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is one of the world's truly unique structures.
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It is brilliant white two story
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dome, seventeen meters across
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and twelve meters high and said
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to be the most. The technologically
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advanced machine ever conceived.
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It is called the Integra drawn
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and it's the product of years of labor by one
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at George Vamp Tassel. One
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of the most interesting man you will ever hear
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about. This is in part because
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his plans for the into were drawn. Came
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to him. From alien visitors
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to imparted him wisdom that if
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you believe him. Will change the world.
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Then and change the human
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race. The
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see and hear George Van Tassel. You'll
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find that is probably one of the more sober and normal
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seeming characters from the annals of
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us all a. g. Well, groomed,
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well dressed, well spoken. articulate
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and projecting an air of intelligence and education,
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it's little wonder that he amassed quite
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crowd of admirers and supporters
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over his career. That there was
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another side to Van Tassel to
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decide his best known for. That
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was man who moved his family out of their house.
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And into the desert to live literally
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under rock. Where he channeled
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Venusians and described
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his visits board alien spacecraft.
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them hassle had been a mechanic and inspector
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for Southern California'is is crucial
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aircraft industry since before
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World War Two all the way through it's conclusion.
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Then one day while visiting his uncle
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in the desert, he chance to meet and
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befriend minor named Frank
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Crate's or. The was at the time.
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Hollowing out home for himself underneath
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and enormous freestanding boulder. Now
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known as giant rock. In
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the desert near Landers, California.
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The all accounts Kreitzer was an eccentric
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yet inoffensive character. It
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was German, which was not good luck
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in the days immediately following World War Two.
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The was an amateur radio operator,
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so we had a tall antenna atop the gigantic
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seven storey boulder he lived under.
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As minor, he had plenty of dynamite.
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Finally this. The adjacent to what
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was then the Naval auxiliary air station
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twenty nine palms. All
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of this was somewhat alarming to
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the local constabulary. Though
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one night, the sheriff sent three deputies
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to see what crates or was really up to. The
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council, what went down very?
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That the bottom line is price or blew
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himself up, killing himself and
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injuring to the deputies. During
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news George Van Tassel took
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over crates or as lease on the giant
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rock property he. quit his job
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soldiers house Fact: His wife
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Eva and three daughters into the family pick
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up. And moved out there. They
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literally lived in the pick up truck
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and in craters cave as
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Van Tassel cleaned it out and made it somewhat
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habitable. These are the days when anyone
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who knew Van Tassel probably wondered
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what fuse he blows. There
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was method to madness and apparently
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it's good long list of frenzied made
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in the aircraft industry because very
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soon he'd cleared and airstrip.
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Noted by the F. A. As giant rock
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airport. The power and water
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run out to the property and built an
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airport cafe called the come
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on in. staffed by
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Eva, who made legendary burgers
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and apple pie. It was
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lively destination. (OP)
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And dozens of light aircraft would be there.
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It appeared that them Tas all had created
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for himself the perfect retirement
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plan.
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Except that there was a lot more
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going on below the surface, sadly
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the warm personable intelligent
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George Van Tassel. Probably
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schizophrenia. the believes
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himself in regular contact with
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alien visitors from Venus. The
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land worship at night right there at
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giant rock airport. This
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is from nineteen sixty four television interview.
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The formula came from a ship
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that landed of Meyer fortnight and
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fifty three on Aug. as funny. Or it
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which? had four people aboard at the
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same from another planet The
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two o'clock in the morning then the
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approximately full moon, which is like
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daylight on the said. They look
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like. they were white people have good health and
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After we got off the ship, the man
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who are invited me board of
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didn't have day over twenty years of
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age. The told me that he was
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over seven hundred years of age in our time.
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Whether to guy fieri the formula for the time
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as soon as he goes wanna wear t
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f? thing frequency and saving time
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It was from within the subterranean chamber
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beneath a giant rock. Then
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Castle regularly commune with
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the venetian the. They shared with
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him the secrets of the universe, and he
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in turn shared them with the world.
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It began hosting an annual you fo conference
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at giant rock, you apologists
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would fly in and drive in from all
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over and Van Tassel would climb
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atop stage built on the side of the rock.
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The'and and actually channel the venetians
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live to the attendees. We
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were are. Created in space.
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We have A. Little
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use. They live on planet.
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We have many types of
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cry. visible
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and invisible" The younger
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than and live. The
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understand. Creation.
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The way counteract
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destruction at every opportunity.
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However, there were a war. That'the
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the by our people. They
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were back the I'm our recorded
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history. We
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have formulate are food. Though
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an opening. There were all
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mile. Though he never
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other sound from it. Wait,
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are not breathe air? If
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you do. Are breathing
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if you could term as such? It
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is. Sergeant of
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Live in the primary
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stages. They do not
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have to worry about moving
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outside of Irish yet. Neither
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code northeast and such as.
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There are hours and hours of recordings
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of and Tassel channeling the aliens. The
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most dramatic of his claims is that
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he was once transported aboard one of the ships
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to meet with a group called the Council
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of Southern Lights. In this
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meeting he was given to the basic
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schematic for what they termed
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rejuvenation machine. We
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know today. As be Integra
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drawn.
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My intended road map for this episode
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was to find out exactly what kind of
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machine the integrity is supposed
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to be in a determine whether that's
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real thing and whether the structure
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itself actually represents the. Sadly,
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this was not to be. The descriptions
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Van Tassel gave for what the
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integrity tron is. Are all
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over the map. They're scattered,
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nonsensical. The inconsistent.
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Sometimes even self contradictory. They
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come mainly from his typewritten newsletter.
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The proceedings of the College of Universal
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Wisdom. A branch of the Ministry
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of Universal Wisdom. His
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name for the Cave under giant rock.
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Most of the newsletters consist of Bible passages.
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And ads for him, Tassel's self published
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books. The few photos and
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incomplete layperson's descriptions
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of the structure. What we know is that
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around the circumference of the integrity
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tron is a fifty five foot diameter
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ring of horizontal metal bars
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like short spokes, and when the machine
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is turned on, this ring should
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rotate. The A hassle never
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finished building it and the alien blue
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prints were in his head alone
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but. what seems to be the case is that the integra
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tron was intended to be an electrostatic
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generator not too different From
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the Van de Graaf Generators, you touch
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the science museum to make your hair stand
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on it. Van Tassel
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spoke of the need to install a coil.
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And often spoke of magnetism, so
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it's possible he intended to create large
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electromagnet alongside
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the electrostatic generator. He
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also talked about negative ion generators.
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And once wrote. The effect
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of our Integra tron will produce three
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separate energies simultaneously
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and the control of these will be automatic,
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according to the capacity of the individual
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passing through the fields. This
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integrates the energies into the atomic
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structure of the flesh directly. The
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fact he discussed included time travel,
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anti gravity. The cellular
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rejuvenation. The
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problem is it today, we're very, very familiar
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with static electricity, negative
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ions and magnetism. I'm
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not one of them produces any of those
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effects. So without
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any evidence to the contrary. We
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can confidently conclude that if the Integra
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try and. Had ever been completed
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and turned on. When you're done
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anything at all except spin around
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and. Probably cause people to shock each
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other.
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Throughout the documentation of the integrity, tried.
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You'll find references to the famous electrical
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engineer. Nikola Tesla. As
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we discussed Ad Nauseum, an episode
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number three hundred and forty five. Tesla
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is the poor fellow who's good name has
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been co and exploited
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for a century more times
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by every crackpot with crazy idea.
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The day's proprietors of the Integra drawn.
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Name drop Tesla in just about every
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sentence even. though electrostatic
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generators predated tesla by two
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centuries That's what did
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writing Nineteen Thirty Four article about
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such generators? That he credited
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Doctor Robert J. Van de grasse Who
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developed the most common type in nineteen
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twenty nine? Based on fifty years
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of work by others. I know
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remote extension of logic can anything
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at the Integra tron. The said to
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have been inspired by Tesla himself.
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The either Tesla nor Van de Graaf. Never
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discussed time travel. Age
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reversal. Or anti gravity.
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Nothing more than hijacking Tesla his name
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in a bid to lend some authority. The
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Integra drug. What
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was not the only historical luminary
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to have his name dragged through the Integra
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Trans mud many, of the
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people associated with the integra tron today
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assert that Howard Hughes helps
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to find it's construction. Based
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on sort of apocryphal history of them,
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Tassel and hughes having known
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each other or flown or work together.
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The even that Hughes used personally
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fly and giant rock to attend
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the U. F. O. Conventions. It
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doesn't appear to be any truth to any
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of this. The family's story
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does recall that Van Tassel. Once
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tried unsuccessfully to reach, used
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to solicit contribution. It
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would have been during user's recluse of years.
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Despite claims to the contrary, all
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over the integrity and marketing materials.
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There is no evidence that Howard Hughes
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ever had anything to do with. Or
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even knew about. The integra
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tron. The
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closest thing I can find to a true
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claim about the integrity or on. That
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is situated on geomagnetic
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vortex. The word "vortex"
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is nonsensical and essentially
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meaningless in this context. The
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whole Earth is one great popery
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of geomagnetic variances. There's
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the integra drawn located on particularly
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dramatic one. The fact check
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this claim I turned to our in
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house geologist Andrew Dunning
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of the Better Geology You Tube channel.
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Like and subscribe. It turns out
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that two and a half kilometers from the
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Integra drawn. Is one
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such variants? Above an area
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of igneous, intrusive diorite
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and nice, which causes about one
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percent compass variants. About
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six point, seven, five mil gals. The
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undetectable with hand held compass.
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This is much less than other variances
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in the surrounding area and it's unlikely
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Van Tassel would have had sensitive enough magnetometer
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to detect it. If he did, he
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missed it by two and half kilometers.
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But that's the closest thing to troop,
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why am I could find? The either way
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Van Tassel died in nineteen seventy eight.
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That marked the end of any further
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development. The
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day the Integra tron still
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nonfunctional but cleaned up for
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tourists.
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Is a commercial Healing
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Center around, fifty
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bucks. you join couple dozen other people inside
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lying on mats and listen
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to someone tones on quartz bowls
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for an hour. called sound
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bath. Here's sample from their
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website.
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One is forced to wonder that if rejuvenation
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time travel and anti gravity. Or
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even just any one of the three was indeed
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so close to being realized. Would
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sound baths really be the most
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productive use of this machine? When
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nobody have come to follow Van Tassel's
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work. The answer, of course,
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is it the voices and divisions that
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dominated Van Tassel's time underneath
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giant rock were probably products
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of his own amazing mind and
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not from enlightened ambassadors. The
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planet Venus.
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You
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