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to sleep deprived. I have the

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one and only. The. Crazy

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Clinton clan. My brothers and sisters. so

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I have three out of four of

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us here today. I'm Max our the

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brother couldn't be here today because what

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was he doing? It's. More

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importantly is I don't. Know you know

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and he says to be yeah but I

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have my oldest brother Jack. I will. Give.

1:00

You a. Warmer

1:03

weather, very good. Night Live

1:05

my second oldest sister he had

1:07

Bella second oldest. Yeah. I

1:09

was a godly second. Oldest Woman:

1:12

Yes. Was sick and out. what lt to take

1:14

it out? A sister think he got another. And

1:17

I have it the fourth eldest

1:19

brother a doozy the favorite uncle

1:21

sorry jaguar he would me today

1:23

and where he just to chat

1:25

about all things family growing up

1:27

together having fun. The legend I

1:29

am today was shaped by all.

1:31

Of them and. It's. True,

1:33

especially Bella being the oldest sister you

1:36

definitely shaped me into the crazy preacher

1:38

yelling said i had it just notes

1:40

had rubbing a family and what it

1:42

was like growing up together. so I

1:44

just want ever and to introduce themselves

1:46

and two sentences or less tell us

1:48

about yourself. Jack my name's Jack in

1:51

the is already and sit back and

1:53

realize that you don't look rely on

1:55

image on he was it because it's

1:57

just does keep it together and how.

2:00

Are you ready Laden That are. It takes it

2:02

out. Don't go really far back as my first.

2:04

What? Just officer? And

2:07

I'm yeah. I've got two kids and a wife.

2:09

I live in Newcastle. I don't have any social

2:11

media. Oh. Yeah, you don't

2:13

have that mentality. Yeah, lemme welcome

2:16

that. my. Minutes

2:18

unless psychological tests. sorry hunchback

2:21

made them Physio: All guys

2:23

are you Thoughts: cerebral. Opulence

2:25

guys myself Youtube well I hope

2:27

I'm bella en el I gonna

2:29

do now is so nice to

2:31

be here. I'm back! I think

2:33

everyone knows and enough about me

2:35

I feel like I spelt and

2:37

a lot in the last. Pecans

2:39

as idols. Has emerged member submit a

2:42

boy mine too much on therefore I've

2:44

done this way too many time into

2:46

host. Yeah, I was originally meant to

2:49

be a. Who. Suffers citizens been asleep

2:51

asleep. Iraq has also sleep deprived

2:53

a were overlooked I was actually

2:55

got shunted Protein I zola so

2:57

long as who I was only

2:59

up a who much fun. ah

3:01

I'm at but I'm. The second out

3:03

is so it went jack them may. And.

3:05

Max and Home. And them. And

3:08

then obviously in the ah about main.

3:11

Elements of the Golden Goose is the golden charms

3:14

of Lean on the As. A Nice enough about

3:16

me, I feel. So I'm not gonna sit

3:18

back and like. These.

3:21

Well on Tom. When I'm

3:23

home alone telling us a

3:25

sample gaza, ah what do

3:27

I am The phone uncle.

3:30

The. Fungal Cool Nephews and nieces that

3:32

are. Keep. Me busy on the weekends?

3:34

Yeah. And. Dislikes own him

3:37

a good time for to the

3:39

drive moon and they're all different

3:41

in there. Was. A remote. Tuck

3:43

into that mode of. Just

3:45

like lifestyle As good on about guide

3:47

are you a few of your recent

3:49

I don't know. he was yeah. Getting

3:52

Tom on his podcast was okay so I

3:54

had to an excessive autumn wasn't coming on

3:56

the site not be like I support you

3:59

and I said. Really nice message. Not like I'm

4:01

not going to be offended if no months to come on.

4:03

I still love. You and as soon as some said no

4:05

other arm fucking a filet with a friend like. I was

4:07

like a think i'm sorry sis I just obsessed

4:09

got work on whatever and I was like you're

4:11

you can change it and even max out with

4:13

brother he's or hicks he has work and I

4:16

was. I haven't spoken to him for awake arm

4:18

but then I kind that kind of softening drunk

4:20

as I said if you oh come on his

4:22

podcast animal one take you to off his and

4:24

of a to I'll take you to urban serve

4:26

this new like surfing place in Sydney so of

4:28

course Tom's i have her mother is this is

4:31

available. Pressure on me as well. I do. I told

4:33

her I send him a message. I. Said it would mean

4:35

so much money for our. Own

4:37

I said, I don't think you realize. How much

4:39

it means to her having all of us

4:41

on the podcast We the Edge Of Or

4:44

and you'd already accepted before I even send

4:46

that message. So his. And you're

4:48

you are just pulling on the hot me, the

4:50

dark horse like we. Did not think you'd

4:52

find out you can even come down for

4:54

Easter let alone coming up in my heart

4:56

because that is a thank you. And

4:58

me load all. As a general

5:01

I thought about any to Tesla

5:03

and obviously. Runs out of battery so I

5:05

get back last night from the hospital with

5:07

salt and other story and. Just.

5:09

Has his Tesla in my driveway. The whole

5:11

loans reside in this Sat charger. Like coming

5:13

through the window to send. he's not even

5:15

there are my This kid comes out really

5:17

causal. He leaves his car at my house.

5:19

I only you drive a Tesla, you have

5:22

to charges. Every place you go through. Eyesight for

5:24

all people that. Needed. An

5:26

electric car I would have said. You're probably the

5:28

last person with that coffee to

5:30

file a bullet. Admin and Organization

5:32

Jaeger. You just Hillary preferred know?

5:34

Yes, let's not either that or

5:37

not. You know nothing. Fancy.

5:40

Working so far been run out of battery up. At

5:43

my house of frickin' eleven Pm, urinate in

5:45

there and and he takes the electric bike

5:47

home. He. Says Edu. I know,

5:49

but as the army inclusion that this

5:51

morning, Zola years as a screw. Drivers:

5:56

Will get that is it was it added

5:58

off on that childhood clinton. Family where

6:00

we all came from. The.

6:02

Say Mahmoud. Mazuch.

6:05

Even though I was always told the i don't

6:07

look like as Ripple the family I am I

6:09

was very much left out of the trolley club.

6:11

Growing up. I

6:13

kind a did my own thing wasn't I

6:16

will you really young? was the trolley com

6:18

he was on? Maybe you went on with

6:20

eyes I was left up to together. Maybe.

6:23

Quoted old so. This is the club.

6:25

Was this club that only I guess Max Bellerive

6:27

Tomboy Eight. And it was a club that you

6:29

had to write down a hill in a trolley

6:32

to be a part of our Edu, had to

6:34

be pushed actually down the hill in a trolley

6:36

and it doesn't matter if he wrote role of

6:38

full out. Oh get fucked up and you

6:40

are potentially club if you got down to one

6:42

of the shows the haven here a minute my

6:44

thing as a hit a killer don't be answers

6:46

a hill yeah is. Steep hill and yet to see

6:49

in the trolley as the foot down and that was

6:51

your. Say we need fair I need as

6:53

guess. Yeah, and Jackie obviously never got

6:55

through that it was getting the stroller unveiled

6:58

his passes and either say that am I

7:00

going to try again through I know, right?

7:02

like it or were a lot of

7:04

his own. Yes, We had a

7:06

really epic upbringing. Jack was the oldest

7:09

army China was always the larry one

7:11

arm. We as a similar thing I'm

7:13

just telling me around description of what we.

7:15

Will Isis is he was the one that used

7:17

to have these little brain farts. These little brain

7:19

explosions as we like to call them where he

7:21

was fairly easy shit. for a good moment

7:23

or to internalize. Naco. The

7:26

glass way down a horrible just

7:28

because Iraq hasn't are now he

7:30

still kind of does have already

7:32

been removed by some as I'm

7:34

no no is jack. And Bella, with

7:36

kind of always the goody two shoes, a

7:38

school taxes the school, which was amazing, she

7:40

kind of the lead by example. Around know

7:42

that it and was not. You know. She

7:45

was school cousin by day that

7:47

water bombing caused by nigh on

7:49

ecstasy Zoc says. I really like Wilderness

7:51

Stein. she turns his wild little potty

7:53

elite universities as she kind of lives

7:55

the best of both live and what

7:57

went wrong? I realized before they bought.

8:00

Why were wrong? yeah no I didn't I

8:02

I feel like the I was always arm

8:04

is oil india and i and he against

8:06

you boys that you three were always. Like

8:09

a little crew. And then we were

8:11

our own little crow as well. Yeah,

8:13

we'll we'll the older like. Yeah.

8:15

But we would such tomboy growing up because of

8:17

it's a we had so many. Big. Boys.

8:20

Such so much testosterone in our house.

8:23

Lion. We. Would not go. you know? just.

8:25

What we weren't really, it's hair like I see like

8:27

when you were basically. No offense, but I

8:29

was in line. We. Share rooms are

8:32

we I say we would face these

8:34

are still off. Season ahead. As

8:36

you're pointing to Tom this. Is

8:39

the the podcast. Oh

8:42

avoiding. Full his videotapes for yes,

8:44

it's homes. You. Nervous

8:46

ya beings are just as a clerk.

8:48

Were close now because of my parents

8:50

so the I was going through similar

8:52

struggles yes whereas mans homer always kind

8:54

of close because we went to school

8:56

together was three years. You know

8:58

we would buy. I reminisce one time on

9:00

we would always buy creaming so does after

9:03

school and I had my pocket money from

9:05

the two. Thirds by creaming said and he's issue

9:07

that. Which. We weren't allowed our house that's why

9:09

we're all a little bit wired I'm at

9:11

so we would bison craving soda and some

9:13

lollipops. Office com is one time I did

9:15

and I bought like a two liter bottles

9:17

creaming soda. I bought it and we will.

9:19

Cat and guy. Anti. Mom and I

9:21

started blowing my eyes out which is like I.

9:23

Was so scared of you telling mom and

9:25

dad about off buying says well in Alaska

9:27

any sugarless will not as you would go

9:30

into places. A. Whether it was

9:32

the bakery? oh my God. Yeah. Whether it

9:34

was the lollies jobs? It doesn't matter

9:36

she'd come out. She go into these bakery

9:38

and you come out with a handbag, the

9:40

Red Cross or a sexy guy across onto

9:42

the began by three years to come back

9:44

again We tell the story is this is

9:46

a good story rather than Skyn let you

9:49

be without it because I've got a good

9:51

run of a shout out out of a

9:53

shock I say the Hydrogen I'm going it

9:55

is say we should actually going says we

9:57

should tell the story Prop Plane one A

9:59

The. Going to lead started going until the

10:01

late know I'm just a deadly but basically India

10:03

was such. A chair a bright shouldn't so cheap.

10:06

That navy less you would never ever And

10:08

bambee But like you'd never be out to

10:10

say no A law says she would go

10:12

Yes Yes! It's you'd go any shop. She. Went

10:15

into people became obsessed with her and she

10:17

always gets off afraid to just walk in

10:19

the give Amir she said she'd give you

10:21

free stuff said basically you tell the story

10:23

about the baker that became obsessed with India

10:25

but this was an ongoing obsession like it

10:27

went on for years and you used to

10:29

to your advantage to absolutely like notice any

10:31

army be time use one jaegers. He has

10:33

finally. Say. It or in their own kinder

10:36

egg I wanted. Aren't rather him? And

10:39

his. Sake! See what you come

10:41

out with weights and forever is it

10:43

is her what she didn't or but

10:45

I refuse to sinusitis know what? I

10:47

like A hero by the Henry was

10:49

like he was hooked on me but

10:51

like I. Literally would just go in and

10:53

by croissants. I'd done all I would do

10:56

but obviously he does fell over his heels

10:58

to me and I would come out with

11:00

a thousand dollars as and by about sauce

11:02

good she handbags He bought my first pair

11:04

of beauty sleep is but I go by

11:06

croissants that he said he would buy me

11:08

a good below every occasion but this one

11:10

time I was eight he'd ride with an

11:12

eight hour with this one. the i'm a

11:15

mom made you come back come to the

11:17

to the place of me and time I

11:19

you know be intimidating and beg my sister.

11:21

Can't accept. This. Five thousand

11:23

dollar necklace for me. The Dead Man's as

11:25

just got more more lavish running. and yes,

11:28

And. Has a going off sowed I

11:30

bred into stasis as soon as I

11:32

got out of hand queries as is

11:34

unreal. the risk right for it. And

11:37

the underwear because I feel lucky you

11:39

can get something for nothing. But.

11:41

I. Will.

11:44

Be. My boyfriend obviously there.

11:47

Has. Undergone just trying to bribe you

11:49

with gifts. yeah I'm I love I'm

11:51

all about that. the liquid some other

11:53

probably a line where you going to

11:55

said and noisy to sounded i've read

11:57

only promo those gray by through had

11:59

really. good bread, really good baguettes.

12:03

And what did you feel like you couldn't go back there anymore because he

12:05

was bribing your sister with gifts? No, I was happy to

12:07

go there. What did you say to him? Do

12:10

you remember? Yeah, I took my shirt off and just

12:12

started flexing in the corner. I just got a baguette

12:14

and just started curling it. So

12:16

next time I wrap this around your head. Yeah,

12:20

I feel like you're not super intimidating because you

12:22

probably just lied and bought me more presents but

12:25

that was definitely, I do remember that. But I

12:27

would work it to my advantage. I'll give you

12:29

the free stuff. We probably bought Mum's Christmas

12:31

presents without you. It's like everything.

12:33

We went trick or treating once

12:35

which we were never doing. And

12:38

I think we went into this old Doris's house

12:40

and I think they had like plum trees that

12:42

you probably used to steal plums from and

12:44

they didn't have anything. I didn't even know what trick or

12:46

treat was and you ended up with money coming out. They

12:48

like gave you some gold coins to get you off their

12:50

property. You guys sort of

12:55

have always been given free stuff. I

12:58

always loved you. It's still to this

13:00

day. I'm still but I very much give it.

13:02

I mean, I don't want to honk my own

13:04

horn, but I like offloading it now to you

13:06

guys, friends, you generous. And

13:09

that's my love language. Yeah. Gift giving

13:11

is giving and receiving gifts. But Ben

13:13

hasn't quite caught on to that. I'm

13:15

like, babe, when are we going to

13:17

start giving gifts back to me? Receiving

13:19

gifts is your love language. But I

13:21

think that's how I feel. But no,

13:24

so we grew up from a family

13:26

of five, obviously five of us where

13:28

there's five under seven. So mum had

13:30

us all super close together, which means

13:32

our house was and meant our house

13:34

was chaotic, but our parents were very

13:36

strict in the way, like no

13:39

sleepovers. We were no

13:41

sugar, no sleepovers, no talking back. Like

13:43

it was kind of like an army.

13:46

Yeah. You really feel like

13:48

it was an army. It was so strict. No, we had

13:50

a lot of freedom. We had so much freedom. You just

13:52

had to be home before the light street lights came on.

13:55

That was the only rule. That was the only rule. You

13:57

have to be going before dark. Have

14:00

it for all day. Yeah. That was true. There

14:02

was a bike track that time you,

14:04

I like a lot of freedom to

14:06

play, but not as in you didn't, you weren't

14:08

allowed to go out, like stay at friends houses.

14:11

We all would, that's why we all so close

14:13

because we didn't need extra friends coming

14:15

in, like it wasn't like, Oh, we'd go on holidays

14:17

and you have, everyone got to bring a friend. It

14:19

was like, these are your friends. Your siblings

14:21

are your friends. Get along. Mumble, Mumble,

14:23

she still says she's like, get in

14:25

or get, get along or get out.

14:28

Every time I'm like, now I'm not speaking to Bella. She's

14:30

like, I didn't have five kids.

14:32

But you guys have to be speaking to each

14:34

other. Mom,

14:37

come on. Like she's very much like for stuff.

14:40

For friendship, for friendship. Yeah,

14:42

but it's really work. It's worked in our family. It's like, we are

14:44

very close to, and we all kind of

14:46

gossip. Like me and Tom have a gossiping session

14:49

every week on the phone. He's like, you

14:51

should know. He loves it. He

14:54

loves it. He loves it. He loves it. I'm

14:56

sorry to say, you're the gossiper of the family.

14:58

I am. You only just figured that out. Yeah.

15:00

You call me every week and you're like, Tom, and

15:02

sometimes I get a lot of trips and I don't

15:04

have tea. You always do. Or you'll just make it

15:06

up. I

15:08

feel like I'm going to tell you less.

15:11

This is an information highway that I didn't

15:13

know about. I bet

15:15

you guys gossip the most about us. They would just

15:17

bitch about us. Well, Jack takes about seven business days

15:19

to get back to messages. So I feel like he's hard

15:21

to gossip about. He's not even in it. I

15:23

mean, I just call you and offload everything. I'm

15:26

like, so anyway. Yeah, literally. But

15:28

I think it's kind of forced us to be

15:30

besties and we've grown up super close. But we've

15:32

also had, you know, we've had some funny stories.

15:35

We used to go on so many road trips

15:37

as siblings and as our holidays would go on

15:39

road trips. Tom and I being the youngest,

15:41

we always stuck up the back of the car. Jack

15:43

being the highly strong, oldest child, he always

15:45

got his way. Bella always got away. She

15:48

flooded those little fucking pieces. I never got my

15:50

way. You did. Never.

15:52

So you was a tomboy going on. I was such

15:54

a tomboy growing up. Do you remember? Because like

15:56

we're obviously close in age, but you, I

15:58

always just wanted to. like hang out with you

16:00

but you didn't want to borrow from me. Really? Is that your

16:02

memory of it? Like, yeah, you always want

16:04

to hang out with the boys. So I felt like I

16:07

had to be a boy to like fit in, like

16:09

to be one of the boys. Like I had

16:11

to just run around the neighborhood. I never, never

16:13

ever was girly. Like I remember the first time

16:15

I got, when I got my ears pierced, I

16:17

was so excited to get my ears pierced. How

16:20

old were you? 13. I never did. And I

16:22

wasn't allowed. And I got these, I went shopping.

16:24

We're on a surf trip. So we'd been on a road trip

16:26

and I went and bought all these earrings. I was so excited,

16:28

like little Fran, Japan earrings, little like hoop, gold

16:30

hoop earrings. And I put, used to wear these

16:32

little gold hoop earrings and you guys used to

16:35

call them my Westy Hoops. Oh my God. And

16:37

you would literally rinse me. Like anything I ever

16:39

did, I was rinsed so hard. So you'd call

16:41

it, oh, she's got her Westy Hoops in again.

16:44

I'm so mortified and so upset. I

16:48

ended up taking my earrings out and didn't wear them

16:50

for like 10 years. I

16:52

didn't wear earrings. They gave you a complex. They gave me

16:55

a complex. I didn't start wearing earrings again until I was

16:57

like after at university.

16:59

No. Cause all of school like, yeah, no

17:01

word of a lie. Where was I to pick up you? I

17:04

don't know. Often the baker getting freaked off. I

17:06

was at the bakery getting freaked off. You're wearing

17:08

earrings now. I think I got over the complex.

17:10

Yeah, look at him now. He's over it. He

17:12

went about eight on that a year. He's over

17:14

the complex. So many ways. It

17:17

wasn't sort of a complex, it was graphics. I got

17:19

through it, but yeah, you were tough growing up.

17:21

You were tough. Sounds like it was character

17:23

building. It clearly was. I don't

17:25

know why you were so tough, but you definitely

17:27

were. It was the eldest. You didn't like, you

17:29

were very fair. You're very fair in the way

17:32

you want everyone to be treated the same. Like

17:34

if Bella in 26, you know,

17:36

wearing a short dress, you would want that

17:38

carried on to me when I was 18

17:41

kind of thing. Like he was hidden

17:43

back down. Yeah. Don't you reckon?

17:45

He's very protective. He's very protective. But I feel

17:47

like Mum and Dad also let it slide really

17:49

quick. With me. I think

17:51

Max, he's not here, I

17:53

think Max actually really helped us. Really?

17:56

Being the one that like He really went off the rails there for a

17:59

little bit. He picked the band. room. Oh, weird

18:01

man. He was so weird. He was

18:04

grumped in the mornings when like also we, Tom

18:06

and I had to commute to school. You guys

18:09

never had to endure that those past

18:11

years. But we had to travel

18:13

a long way to school like over an hour and

18:15

a half each way. And every morning dad would wake

18:17

up in the happiest mood to kind of like, you

18:20

know, butter us up. Like we're going to go

18:22

get on a bus for three hours. Like, come

18:24

on guys, breakfast time. Max, it

18:26

was like five a.m. It was like five fifty

18:28

before I came home. I was so happy we

18:30

didn't have to do this. Max

18:34

was lying in his room and Max out of

18:36

bed. He would never get out of bed and

18:38

he would I don't eat in the morning. He

18:40

was the first trendsetter of fasting. Yeah. Actually, yeah.

18:43

Speaking of this and Max and eating, I said

18:45

to my kids now, do you want to eat

18:47

Max or Tomo? Max

18:49

was always really slow and fussy with his

18:51

food. Yeah. And then

18:54

Tomo just eats everything. He will not

18:56

stop eating. Do you want to be strong like Tomo

18:58

or Max? Max is

19:00

big. He's got a

19:02

big. He has got a big. But he was always

19:04

a bit funny with his eating. He would always grunt

19:07

waking up in the morning. He was some sort of

19:09

animal. And then he'd always do weird things. Dad

19:11

would be like, why dad would wake up and have

19:13

a diary and he'd say, why is there a

19:15

bike in the bush? And Max would be out of

19:17

his girlfriends. No one knew he had a girlfriend. He'd

19:20

be out of the house at like 2 a.m. on

19:22

his bike. So sneaky. He's

19:24

always been his arch-course. Always.

19:27

But yeah, I think growing

19:29

up we have always just been that

19:32

like tight, tight squad.

19:34

But now we're kind of all doing our

19:36

own things, but we still come together. I

19:39

mean, Jack's got two kids. How's it

19:41

been having two kids and having

19:43

a very, we're all very strong-willed, which I think

19:46

you probably find hard because like, for example, at

19:48

Easter or Christmas, we all want Jack and his

19:50

kids to come visit us. Yeah. And we don't

19:52

lay off. And Jack's very much like, no,

19:54

I would rather go to my in-laws. You're like,

19:57

I wanted to do my own thing with my

19:59

family. No, no, I just want

20:01

to pick the best parts. Like things in my childhood I

20:03

remember that I like or don't like, I just want to

20:05

pick the best parts and give them to my kids. What

20:07

didn't you like about your childhood? Well, you write the strictness

20:09

that was annoying, not being able to sleep over at people's

20:11

houses. Things like that, things that you

20:13

remember. Mm. The scent, like just

20:16

getting dodgy sandwiches. I can't

20:18

imagine. Yeah, dodgy sandwiches going to preschool,

20:20

like going to primary school. You know, like you

20:22

should get the frozen bread from DIY bakery and

20:24

then she put it in the freezer, right? To

20:26

make sandwiches, then she'd be getting up and she'd

20:28

be such a fog, making the enamelies and she'd

20:30

wrap it like with cling wrap, half cling wrap and then

20:32

you'd open up your bag at recess time and the things

20:34

like... One sides and one thing. Then the

20:36

half frosted, all apart in your bag

20:39

and put it together and like it's just disgusting. But

20:41

don't you see now why, like

20:43

five kids, so exhausted. I don't

20:45

know why you'd do it to yourself. And like you

20:47

guys ate so much. Like I never realised how

20:49

much you ate until I got older and was

20:52

like, oh my God, you guys actually eat so

20:54

much. It was outrageous. Like mum used to have

20:56

to make like mounds of sandwiches.

20:58

Like I remember you guys would

21:00

eat like four sandwiches each. Yeah,

21:02

but yeah. And like everything, I

21:05

remember going out into the kitchen in

21:07

the morning and your sandwiches would be

21:09

stacked up and it'd be like Jack's

21:11

sandwiches, Matt's sandwiches, Tom's sandwiches. It's like

21:13

Bella's sandwiches, India's sandwiches. I'm

21:16

not saying we're deprived or anything like that. No.

21:18

I just want to be, I just want to

21:20

have a more balanced family. Yeah.

21:23

In the future. So Gigi's already got her ears pierced. I

21:25

know. Like Gigi. She's got her westy hoops in already. She's

21:27

got her westy hoops in already. So you call it, you

21:29

go cute westy hoops. No, I wouldn't say a bad word

21:31

about Gigi. See? Well, you're so tough on

21:33

us. I want to support her. I don't want

21:35

to. I feel like you're actually

21:37

strict though. Yeah, we are. Compared to me, you're

21:39

strict. Yeah, definitely. Like went to your house last

21:41

night and Ben's just putting bluey on

21:44

watching his... But maybe he won't

21:46

go to bed so he just falls asleep in front of the TV. So

21:48

you wouldn't do that? Hell no. No. We're

21:51

about routine. We're about... Yes. We

21:53

are strict about that. And

21:55

Suga, I feel like your kids come to my house. And

21:58

even Bella is like, I will count you in. You

22:00

have my pants, I even Tom, you like my stringers.

22:02

Yeah, you got always good. She's got bags in the nude

22:05

the other day going through the snack box.

22:08

I walked in after a shower and

22:10

she's just in the nude going through the snacks

22:12

and just handing me snacks. I'm totally fine with

22:14

it. Roll up, I have the best

22:16

snacks. Whereas your kids come to my house and I'm like, Aunty, Indi,

22:18

come on, what do you want guys? You want roll up?

22:20

I like open. Cause we never had those snacks,

22:22

like or sugar. We never had that. Like our

22:24

sugar was like so hard. It was fruit.

22:27

Banana on a roll. Yeah, banana

22:29

sandwiches. Do you hate when your kids

22:31

come to my house? Cause I feed them full of sugar. They're

22:33

happy. I love it. That's why they want

22:35

to come back. I like it. No, I

22:38

know. I know they do like it, but your, I

22:40

feel like you're very strict. Like you

22:42

say you don't want to be strict, but I do feel like you're very

22:44

strict. I just want to find a

22:47

balance. That's all. I want to be strict in some

22:49

areas and then less strict in others. I

22:52

think food's always been big at our house.

22:54

Like we've always had breakfast was a bit first

22:58

in best dress, have your weight, big toast,

23:00

whatever lunch was sort of fend for yourself.

23:02

And then dinner was always like a big

23:04

thing. Pasta or

23:06

you guys went through the weird stage. I

23:09

think weird about it. Vegetarian or vegan

23:11

or you know, that was always a trend.

23:13

You copied me. You copied me. But I

23:15

supported it. I went off meat for like

23:18

animal reasons. And then you copy me. As soon

23:20

as you copy me, that catches on. No, it

23:22

was like a pig. It was like we got the pig.

23:24

That's what we did. No, I hadn't

23:26

eaten sausage just for like seven years. As

23:29

soon as you copied me, then dad catches on and then

23:31

starts like force feeding us meat. He's like, you have to

23:33

eat it because you made it like a thing. And I'm

23:35

like, if you didn't copy me, it wouldn't be such a

23:37

thing. We'd always have like

23:40

barbecue night or something. There'd always

23:42

be some sausages. Maybe get

23:44

half a steak or something like that. And

23:46

I was always hungry. Everyone was always hungry.

23:50

And it was always like if you had a guest over or something,

23:52

like you'd just be looking at like the last Of

23:54

the last bit of steak. You'd be like, don't touch

23:56

it mate. Like you're entitled to it, but don't touch

23:58

it. And somebody would catch it. that you'd have

24:00

and then when you guys went off the

24:02

food you got done with my fellow be

24:05

I scraping me hypothesis the data be just

24:07

the oven on about it or knows what

24:09

that I'd been he associates anonymity got bills

24:11

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24:13

sound like you know that he never that to

24:15

thomas like the dog or hear people say the

24:17

food to the dog tommy to think put onto

24:20

his fight and like super cross. Eyed

24:22

I see the toys weekday nights they'll I

24:24

use it still is and that's with his

24:26

mom. Mom would always makes we had seventy

24:29

kids she would always make like hard hitting

24:31

me with like pastas. Lot about the A.

24:33

Little or no a keen. On a all those things and

24:35

now it's like I didn't want a them. they ate so

24:37

much as a kid. Of those because she had

24:39

to like a saver and mail that mom

24:41

made out there and. Were

24:43

growing up like you mail that you remember

24:46

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24:48

just my cooking now. Nice. No one's off

24:50

the macaroni and cheese your easy to make

24:52

like hi may lack on t of the

24:54

moon like I know been she's. A

24:57

lot of the Jesus. Rose Hundred and with a couple

24:59

drumsticks on one right in between and emanate

25:01

always get some of the do the gravy

25:03

and that be a loaf of bread on

25:05

the table or that we supply Whenever we

25:07

saw your throat going to come to remind

25:09

me that with them. To come as

25:11

a man. Sandwiches already real. They

25:13

were like our childhoods setting trips

25:16

to yeah bar. Your it is a

25:18

life are trade Did a lot of road

25:20

trips and we had a lot of sandwiches

25:22

and plotted on sandwich that hi I'm and

25:24

I hated pies growing up and we'd gone

25:26

these road trips to. guys remember this we

25:28

love them, you'd remember this we gonna roaches

25:30

and are the only one the didn't like

25:32

pies. I think it was quite fussy and

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going on near probably. A

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even asked if it's a you have swim.

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if he was asked me i'm. Like

26:06

what's the know, I'm mum Mum actually

26:08

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why isn't anyone from the about the

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do our. I like how. Now I've every once in

27:01

science is what efforts I once read this quite

27:03

which actually made me really cried of this and

27:05

it's you guys are they want to ruin your

27:07

weight and was like. When. You're living

27:09

at home with your siblings, you don't realize how good

27:11

you have it your altogether you all com jaime all

27:14

live under the same or if you have you bedrooms

27:16

you wake up together in the best life and in

27:18

ones I ever and starts his life scattering off and

27:20

before you know it like his his mom and dad

27:22

less in the house and then like we. Had

27:24

many suspended out and bella living at

27:26

home but we went to grab as

27:28

as nice as miss out. On

27:32

a month before moment we bath

27:35

and is. That I'm at the heater really

27:37

talk about when as siblings all kind of get

27:39

their own lives and move away and then we

27:41

all like even Navy is at the point where

27:43

he really look forward to the weekends with these.

27:46

Uncle has ever come down as Feals is hop

27:48

hop he goes fishing any cuts down the not

27:50

as he goes on me a letter by can

27:52

he serves and like even when you come down

27:54

with your family we all. Like.

27:57

we all want it so bad like every weekend

27:59

we want guys to come down. And

28:02

Jack's like, no thank you, I'm going to

28:04

the country far away from you. I've

28:06

just had a lot on the last couple months and I'm hopeful that it's

28:08

going to become easier. But

28:11

you, India, the thing is you just want everyone there

28:13

all the time. Like I remember you get, she gets

28:15

the Monday blues, but once you get the Monday blues,

28:17

because they're like, oh, I've got to go back to

28:19

work on Monday. India gets the Monday blues because we

28:21

all have to go back to our lives. Yeah. And

28:23

you're like, oh, everyone's left. Like, damn it. Like you

28:26

get upset when everyone leaves. I'm

28:28

very family that I love family. I'm that

28:30

whole body. Yeah. No, I'm a homebody. Baby,

28:32

you are not a homebody. No, you're out.

28:34

No, you're out. You're here now. You have

28:37

to go and live in Europe. I'm going

28:39

over. I'm not on the phone on the

28:41

way out. I was just

28:44

tired. I had a big

28:46

weekend. I did get to

28:49

bed at 8am on Sunday

28:51

morning. No, you didn't. I

28:53

did. You are hungover. I

28:55

slept 8am yesterday, not

28:57

this morning. Okay. Is that

28:59

why you didn't come down? Well, wondering why you

29:01

didn't come down. I couldn't come down. I could

29:04

not deal with you guys. I couldn't drive. I

29:06

couldn't drive. I couldn't drive. A, I couldn't drive.

29:10

B, I could not do with you

29:12

guys. Like dealing with you guys. I'm

29:15

over. When you're hungover in our household,

29:17

you are crucified. You

29:19

could have done any weakness. You cannot show

29:22

weakness because it's like pack mentality.

29:24

Like if you're the weak little hungover

29:27

one, everyone will rinse you.

29:29

Like when you do this thing, like if you

29:31

got sunburn, everyone was allowed to like slap you.

29:33

Slap you. Slap you. Slap you. Okay. Okay. You

29:35

can say it's fine.

29:38

No physical abuse. You know, physical abuse.

29:40

Yeah. You can slap them. Slap their hands.

29:43

It was like, it was like we all

29:45

kept it. That was tough. Like we were

29:47

all cheeky little shit and we'd all literally

29:49

like just gang up on each other. Yeah.

29:51

And I think, no,

29:54

what I wanted to ask was, I think I got

29:56

interrupted, but that's fine. Don't worry about it. I wanted

29:58

to ask what everyone thought everyone would do. be,

30:00

you know, like, so we all kind of had our

30:02

own lives now. We're all living in different areas. And

30:05

as a kid, I always have these high,

30:07

I don't mean high expectations of you guys.

30:10

Like you've succeeded them, exceeded them. Um,

30:12

but I always thought you were going to be a gardener. And

30:15

did you think I always thought Tom

30:17

was going to be a professional sports?

30:19

Oh, I golf. You

30:22

were always the most sporty and best

30:24

at sport in our family. You

30:26

were no matter what you did. Yeah, but

30:28

he was next level. No, but do you

30:30

remember Tom? Thanks. Shout out to Coach Ray. But

30:33

no matter what sport Tom did, like we would

30:35

all surf, right? And then Tom would serve, he'd be

30:37

the best surfer. We'd all play tennis and then Tom

30:39

would be like the best. How annoying. Anything he

30:41

picked up. Yeah, because

30:44

I was younger and had to play every

30:46

else's level. You were exceptionally amazing at it.

30:48

Maybe. It was also where he landed in

30:50

the family. Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah.

30:52

Really? Yeah. He's in the middle pack,

30:54

so he's always getting what's above him. So he's watching what's

30:56

happening there. L'Oreal

31:01

Paris, Lumie Glotion. This went viral

31:03

on TikTok and it is finally

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available in Australia. One sells

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31:09

am so excited to try. You can wear

31:11

it four ways. Highlight, glow, contour or even

31:13

wear it as a base. So

31:19

we'd all surf and I was the youngest or

31:21

if we played footy, I'd have to play two

31:23

grades above because Mum and Dad wouldn't drive

31:25

around to an extra game of footy on the

31:27

weekend going for beer. So I'd always

31:30

be the smallest in the team. I have

31:32

to play and then we'd always surf and

31:34

then India would just be on the rocks.

31:36

Just eating, eating, warm, maybe out there for

31:38

hours, loving it. And

31:41

you with your buck teeth and then we

31:43

all got a custom surfboard. Oh, and you

31:45

almost got sponsored. Oh, he was really good.

31:47

Yeah, you are. I'll give you that. You've been

31:49

so good at every sport you play. Everything

31:51

you do, you're good. But I

31:54

know You have been. It's surfing

31:56

and like tennis, baseball at one point.

31:58

They wanted to go. You

32:01

are. We really thought you can we the time with

32:03

a family. I don't know. I do feel a sport

32:05

with the biggest thing in our family. Luxury. we'll all

32:07

see Sars or that that was the biggest

32:09

things. Rothys all of us so active. But

32:11

next Level x Mom and Dad. Encouraged us

32:13

to play every sport and like Go is. No.

32:17

And. Encourage us to play sports of

32:19

a preferred to pleasure to watch. That a

32:21

way to a bailout A say because I'm

32:23

in the i Only recur yeah and I

32:25

really wanted but I got my wife will

32:27

die old I didn't and rowing too early

32:29

in the morning. he has never been. I've

32:31

never like pineapple that. a ritzy as it

32:33

really may be knows. Everything as you buy.

32:35

Aki, the Asic, Hockey over in. I

32:37

do want to come as a Sunday night

32:39

I am I gonna leave as sorry we.

32:42

Don't need oppresses Everything we're going to say. Or I

32:44

would be offended over the African basis.

32:47

Yes we are less I thought were grateful

32:49

we ogre obsessing so I got my fence

32:51

and put it seeks. And. We would

32:53

says you like pretty young so I

32:56

don't think you out there but we

32:58

would literally be out assessing every weekend.

33:01

Or your the Tessa I was what had to

33:03

because I was always with the boys and I

33:05

little priest as to when they're waiting for their

33:07

mothers and their your own email and and or

33:09

the money anyway I do not mumbai you're not

33:11

a real surfers you just them and will be

33:13

able to stand up for a job was that

33:15

is not sure that done. If all. You

33:19

have a nice for. Us together me outside a

33:21

weekend so I don't know how mom and dad. Did.

33:24

It by driving us around every weekend to all

33:26

different sport feels like that. something that I don't

33:28

look forward to with my kids in a

33:30

regular activity that's like peak one sport but sitting

33:33

a recycle them speak one thing like just do

33:35

what I like. To. Me: I'm to make

33:37

maybe Sir Southern I think it's gonna be a

33:39

snacks. Disadvantaged areas surrounding Hussein's

33:41

is to do what he

33:43

brings the audio hundred forty.

33:46

As ah that's really rude as he

33:48

knew why as right about the most

33:50

sportiest body know you and seven let

33:52

me be was says forty five perhaps

33:54

he went poof this like we used

33:56

to train and provided had and I'm

33:58

to drop me either. Mingle

34:00

often. own along to school every morning. I

34:03

have your say was his body because

34:05

I think that's really rude. Know you weren't

34:07

as I'd driven in for as. I or

34:09

maybe we were just reload away. Result may be

34:11

a didn't have to. Do like. We

34:13

were at the tennis court everything the morning

34:15

and every afternoon. German my would they are.

34:18

People. Eating snacks as as. A

34:21

doesn't have to say i would I say

34:23

I was forty be what are you worried

34:25

but you would not only for a little

34:27

as yet I would like I general I

34:30

have to practice even I did it would

34:32

rouse outta and bayswater again by body builder

34:34

who you are easy part of the soon

34:36

as he was before my physicists if I

34:39

will I be out of the ones forty

34:41

I remember got. Hennis? You guys like?

34:43

Really? Really good reliable. You will get your I

34:46

you are. I'm sorry I went to decide on

34:48

your own. He was a he. Said compete

34:50

in surf contests That sir. That's

34:52

true. Nice. To watch mean. Can.

34:55

You tell? well, really competitive. And.

34:57

I think a little when we I have lived in this

34:59

is really good Anyway that's my quest I got on the

35:01

could be thought nah I thought is what what's that we

35:03

bella was gonna pay. For

35:05

be going. Early or in

35:08

aviation maybe for really things you

35:10

like are still exist at all.

35:12

sadly. Learn kind in he says.

35:14

I thought that. Thinks I'm a

35:17

really bad person like you. Always a

35:19

surprise when people use this is Sinai

35:21

Less again. She could bring in a. Fella

35:24

signs me growing up like in

35:26

the Teenagers. Ah,

35:28

Did you say the wrong? I

35:30

thought I thought all you're not

35:32

allowed to urban sir analysis but

35:35

ah, I know either auto. Probably

35:37

not the right person to make

35:39

a call because I'm so into

35:41

sports really. Help

35:43

illustrate Rams used to steal always a

35:46

problem with close Nashville is him. He

35:48

had a party. Like. For

35:50

Bambee on navy or something and Bella

35:52

had a a function she was who

35:54

are a party or seem to be

35:56

icing a party off to the party

35:58

on India's organize the. Robbins that

36:00

the kids the animals for the kids

36:02

like everything the whole shebang and I'm

36:05

being the financial letting kids up and

36:07

then spends running around in as I

36:09

vitamins a. And I say

36:11

fellow I skulking inside with like a

36:13

champagne and abiding citizen of avoid by

36:15

a really bad like ninety two large

36:17

only bad. And

36:20

she looked over assault on disability when I

36:23

was coming and she be stridency in the

36:25

closet should be just going through. I was

36:27

an enclosed in the bag or see fit

36:30

all my clothes halfway through my kid's birthday.

36:32

Party: My sister goes into my room

36:34

with a woman that and sex all

36:36

these clothes it's attacks on And Ben

36:38

I'm only. Like two races. We're all

36:40

of the family and guys riverside mind

36:42

in the house was. When beds

36:44

homie I thought he was drunk as I got a key

36:47

on. Better believe these I went through the cameras at my

36:49

house. So not out there are.

36:51

Walking out with no idea he knew because you

36:53

message I am I right out of science I

36:55

walked out. On

36:58

hammers. And all the staff you message

37:00

me not long after I could are going to

37:02

some an author didn't have anything to wear but

37:04

it was mid parties and I was. I came

37:06

for that to the party at the beginning but

37:08

then I need an encounter. The champagne and he

37:10

asked me to help me take them close. Your

37:12

father. Ah you. I did

37:14

not know I knew after I checked the

37:16

cameras and you've always done that, I drop

37:18

them back. I'd rather than bank tags to

37:20

cut off them, but I didn't need a

37:23

novelty wearing today from my closet. Know this

37:25

is all mine, Not and any of that,

37:27

this is all mine And I believe it.

37:29

I am. Not be my my analysis so

37:31

I. However as

37:33

I see have always been a while I

37:35

would really close to face the general. She

37:38

has a thief. I

37:40

was the people to know the truth. How did she really

37:42

us as a kid? She. So he was

37:44

a threat. Posed.

37:48

No, I hardly knew, but I

37:50

think. I. Think I was from I

37:52

think I it's just his yeah me so

37:54

much shit rye And then I think. I

37:56

have faith is jack off. of

37:59

the He was just very protective and

38:01

I was very protective but I think it came

38:03

off as being like way I was way too

38:05

harsh on you and it was like

38:07

bitchy and mean but I think I was a like

38:09

trying to be protective and you and my little sister

38:12

growing up and I don't think I could handle you

38:14

growing up like you were like hooking up with guys

38:16

and stuff and I'm like um and then there like

38:18

I think I knew what you were doing and mum

38:20

and dad I was admitting

38:23

it. You got away with it. You got away

38:25

with it. I am sorry for being an

38:27

absolute bitch growing up. Last child. Thank

38:29

you for your apology. I love you. I did

38:31

not get away with a lot. I got okay I did but then

38:33

I was getting in trouble. Okay don't look at him like he wants

38:35

you. He got away with blue. I can give you an example. I

38:38

don't need to. Everyone knows. I mean you were

38:41

just at high school they couldn't control you. You

38:43

had more friends than anybody else at the school.

38:45

And where have they gone now guys? Where they

38:47

at? No they didn't know how to tackle you.

38:49

I mean she would wag. We would get on

38:51

the bus. Literally. I never see

38:53

Justin Bieber at the Opera House. Yeah we

38:55

never did that. Well you couldn't if

38:57

you guys just had to get sneaky with your thing. You

39:00

were wild. You would literally like India. I'm

39:02

sorry. One time you were the

39:04

only one that Mum and Dad ever went

39:06

through the teenager. Was down at

39:08

the park drinking vodka with like

39:10

some random boy. Okay. Well

39:13

I did get in like no one else

39:15

did that. I got so drunk that I

39:17

had to get like a drip. And Mum bought this up

39:20

the other day. You went to hospital? You went

39:22

to hospital? You went to tell me home? Yeah but

39:24

now it's saline in a drip or something. No one

39:26

else did that. Yeah because you guys okay I'm sorry

39:28

to say but you guys were goody two shoes right?

39:30

I was the only one that broke the

39:33

back. You know you like to say

39:35

you kind of cross boundaries and you know I think I

39:37

did. I got a tattoo first. I was like. But

39:40

we could have never. Because I think the level of

39:42

strictness of where Mum and Dad were. When we were

39:44

growing up was so high. Like it was so high.

39:46

Like there was no way like I would have had

39:48

bars on my window if I was sneaking out. Yours

39:51

they would have been like Cindy you got a sliding

39:53

door. You were a kid in the front door.

39:55

Dad would take my phone all the time when

39:57

I was grounded. I would get grounded. They could

39:59

do. every child just wore it down

40:01

a little bit more. Yeah. You know,

40:03

started at one, it was very strong. Very

40:05

strict for us. Two, three, four, and five.

40:07

Play instruments. See, you guys think that I

40:09

was wild. Wild. I

40:12

don't know if you've just taken the pierce. I'm not. I'm

40:14

not. Like wild child? That's

40:17

why. Or naughty wild, or what type of

40:19

wild. Naughty wild out. Going to

40:21

surf contests on the weekend, like just

40:23

jumping on enough buttons. She had mum wrapped

40:26

around her finger. Literally. Like, you could literally.

40:28

And when she started getting free stuff, if

40:31

she got in trouble, she'd be like, pull out something from

40:33

her closet that someone had given her. It might just be

40:35

some sports. Oh, mum, this looks good on you.

40:37

I put a mum's like trying to reprimand her. Oh,

40:40

this looks, oh, you think so? And she had mum

40:42

wrapped around her finger. Wrapped around her finger. And mum

40:44

would go in there to ground her, and then she'd

40:46

come out with two new tops and some shoes. Okay,

40:48

and forget about it. And then she would get more

40:51

off the duck's back, and then he would just smile

40:53

and be like, oh well. See, I think I was

40:55

wild, but

40:57

I think I did a lot of you guys. I

40:59

rebelled and you guys didn't. I got tattoos. I

41:01

like talked back. I wagged school, where it

41:04

was like, goody-doo, she couldn't go near. She

41:06

would never wag. I could never. But it helped

41:09

being going to school so far away. It helped,

41:11

yeah. Living there was no freedom. Yeah,

41:13

that's true. If the surf was

41:16

good and we took a day off, I remember getting

41:18

sprung. Why are you writing notes? I was gonna ask.

41:20

Can I ask a question after this one? Of course

41:22

you can, write it down. Hit it now. We

41:24

used to wag school together at a friend's apartment,

41:26

but we were so scared of dad catching us

41:29

that we would stay in the apartment all day long.

41:31

So it was a real waste. A real waste.

41:33

And then you got better. You'd

41:35

go to more and more activity. I wanna

41:37

know what's your answer. Okay, wait. Last time, so

41:39

what did we say that Bella, we thought Bella

41:42

was gonna be when she grew up? Probably a

41:44

lot more fabulous and successful than I am now.

41:46

No, don't worry about yourself. I thought maybe she

41:48

was gonna be, I don't know, I thought you

41:50

were gonna be like a little corporate girl. Yeah, you could've been

41:52

anything. Corporate girl. You've been anything, she was

41:54

really smart. She's really nice, happy HSC. And

41:57

then she used all those brains on her

41:59

candle business. I thought Jack was always gonna be

42:01

I thought you're gonna own pubs I know it's not

42:03

a lot of

42:12

steward in me didn't I saw a lot of steward in you

42:14

our uncle who owns pubs and I thought you're gonna do

42:16

that cuz you went to island for a bit and you

42:18

became really obsessed with beer potatoes and

42:20

I thought that was just so random

42:22

that's what you told me about island

42:24

you said everyone just drinks beer and

42:26

eats potatoes amazing great country Dublin

42:28

I have a

42:31

lot of Irish followers that follow me so Jack was the

42:33

Irish boy that lives in Dublin yeah

42:36

one year what college

42:39

Gormanston 40 minutes out of

42:41

Dublin I worked there

42:44

played rugby there and lived there for

42:46

a year 10 kilos on eating potatoes no cider

42:48

we drink Magnus yeah

42:55

I love the boys dream

42:57

yeah and now down to me oh

42:59

no and max what do we think max is gonna be

43:03

you guys never really thought about this I've

43:05

never clearly no one is giving me responses

43:08

he's not here are

43:10

we talking about man

43:12

really entrepreneurial he's very

43:14

entrepreneurial like I feel like he's always

43:16

just like he's always just gonna do something

43:18

roger he was always the dark horse

43:20

always the really business oriented like he

43:22

would never ever like he would have these

43:25

little random businesses he always just wanted to

43:27

make money hustles no

43:29

matter what he was doing he was making money like

43:31

he would literally drive people after parties and pick them

43:33

up like had his own little uber

43:35

taxi service where we lived just

43:38

charging people through the nose and would drive around

43:40

and drop them here there and every and it

43:42

was called relax call max he

43:44

was a little he's an OG

43:46

hustler max yeah yeah you were

43:48

OG to Clint's backyard yeah you

43:51

know Clint's clipping I know you

43:53

mean like maintenance like yeah what

43:55

did you think I was talking about

43:57

yeah yeah You

44:00

used to always fool clean. Yeah. You

44:02

were the same. I think you and I were going to be entrepreneurial. We

44:04

tried to start Love Gang. We did. Yeah.

44:06

Fashion business. And that's Jack's nickname for us

44:08

is Love Gang. Love Gang. You've still got the trademark,

44:10

don't you? Yeah. We still do. It's a great name. It was

44:12

a great name. It was a great. What happened? We just

44:15

did not want to work. We just put no effort. I

44:17

wanted to work with you all. No, you didn't. Your

44:19

work ethic's different. Very different work ethic. No,

44:21

you didn't. You were like, I'm. Who has

44:23

better work ethic? Me or Bella? That's

44:26

a really hard question. Because I would say I have a

44:28

good work ethic. Oh

44:31

my God. It's just me flat. You guys think

44:33

I have a bad work ethic? Well, I don't

44:35

know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I have. I

44:37

have. We've just had to get better. I love. I don't

44:39

know what you do. And people ask me what you do.

44:42

And I don't know. Like, you had a candle thing going

44:44

for a little bit. You were making candles in the kitchen.

44:46

I was like, Love Gang for a little bit. And you

44:48

did travel. And you did travel. Every time I did see

44:50

you traveling. I know because I work and travel. Do

44:52

you need to work in an office to have a

44:54

good work ethic? No. I need to be

44:56

able to hold down a job. Like, I can hold down

44:58

a job. Can I not? You

45:02

work for yourself. And I think what you're doing is amazing.

45:04

But I think it's you've had a few goals.

45:06

You've actually never. Yeah. I've had a few goals.

45:08

Yeah. You worked at a gym. You didn't worry

45:10

about your gym. Oh, yeah. That was good. You

45:12

worked somewhere else. That was gelato. The only job

45:14

you've ever had that's like a job for someone

45:16

else was the gelato shop. And

45:18

working at a gym. But you were never there for very long.

45:20

You noticed that gelato shop, you did 2 and 1 by 2.

45:22

No, I did 6. Thank you. I did

45:25

6. Counting. Yeah. I was. Clearly,

45:27

Bella. I was. This is where the competitiveness

45:29

and the jealousy starts because she's never worked

45:31

to save her life, apparently. What? It's like,

45:33

I think this girl's never worked. No, I

45:36

think I was always destined for doing your

45:38

own thing. Doing my own thing. What did

45:40

Barzay say? You always wanted to be famous?

45:42

He called me a camera lens, a camera cover.

45:44

Because whenever there was a camera, I was straight to

45:46

the lens. All over it. I was all over it.

45:48

I was destined to be a Hollywood

45:51

actress. Yeah, you actually were. But

45:53

that didn't happen. I want to know what question you wrote down in

45:55

your little life. I was just talking about me for a second. You

45:57

cut me off. And she's loving it. Oh, sorry. That's OK.

46:00

Okay, you always were destined for the fame. If

46:04

anyone was gonna be famous, it was gonna be you. Literally.

46:06

But me for the wrong reasons. But you're the

46:08

best one to make it. Yes.

46:11

Because she's like a charity. Like you go there and

46:13

you just spoil everyone. And there's always food. And you

46:16

can handle it. You have a good head on your

46:18

shoulders. Like I'd be so carried away if I was

46:20

famous. Like I could. More than I had. Oh

46:23

yeah. More than being a guest on

46:25

Sleep Deprived. I mean, you'd love it.

46:27

I would have an entourage.

46:29

I would be like, I couldn't handle

46:32

being famous. I would just be so,

46:34

that wouldn't work. Okay.

46:38

All right. Hit it. What is something

46:40

we love about each other? Oh,

46:42

that's a nice one. That's sweet. That's

46:45

such a nice one. I

46:47

love India's strength.

46:50

You know, she doesn't care what other people say.

46:52

It won't knock her down. Do you reckon? Yeah,

46:55

I think she's really powerful and strong. If

46:57

there's something you're gonna do, you'll do it.

47:00

Prior to this podcast, I haven't listened to a

47:02

podcast before. Oh, thank you. That's okay. But I

47:04

Googled it. Did you? I saw some negative

47:06

comments. Oh, what? I haven't seen them. Yeah, yeah,

47:08

and I was like, wow. And then I said it to him. I was

47:10

like, there's some negative comments. And she's like, that's as if

47:13

India would care though. Yeah, that's true. I

47:15

do read them though. It is. But I only read

47:17

them because it gives me stamina. Yeah, it doesn't tell

47:19

you that. It gives me inspiration because it makes me

47:21

wanna like do more. Do you know what I mean?

47:23

And I like that about you. That's a good thing

47:26

to be confident and strong

47:28

like that. I like this to more positive

47:30

things because we all take the piss of

47:32

each other. This is nice doing something we

47:34

love about each other. Do

47:37

you wanna keep going? Do we go one over another?

47:39

Yeah, you can go. You can just choose

47:41

one person out of the, you can do

47:43

one of the boys. You can do one about yourself too. Do one about

47:45

Jack. I'll do one about you. I

47:48

love that we've become closer because we were

47:50

never that, we're eight years apart.

47:53

So we, you know, obviously we're close because we're

47:55

siblings, but we're not like, we're never

47:57

super close, but now we have kids. We have

47:59

that. common and I love that

48:03

we can kind of turn to each other. You don't often

48:05

turn to me for things because we pair it very differently.

48:07

But I love that our kids can hang out and then

48:09

we can kind of just relate on a deeper level. Like

48:12

I feel like you get me. Like, you

48:14

know, we really get each other now. And I love that

48:16

you have an epic wife that I love too.

48:18

And she's an amazing cook. So whatever you

48:20

come and visit me alone or she comes,

48:22

you're always bearing gifts or food. Always. They

48:25

understand what you need. They understand what you need. And

48:27

you understand that too. Like whenever M comes down, you

48:29

come down, you offer to take the kids or I'll

48:31

be like, come give me your kids. You go do

48:33

a workout. Like we we get each

48:35

other. And I love it's only taken

48:38

us 33 years. 30. How old are you?

48:41

Yeah, everyone was a bit on the day. It takes a while. No, it takes

48:43

a while. But I love that we can really

48:45

we get a really comfortable. We're on the same

48:47

level now. We're understanding a deeper level. This

48:50

chapter. This chapter of life. Funny because

48:52

it's the youngest and the oldest and

48:54

you're doing like the same like you're

48:56

in the same life stage, even though

48:58

you have eight years of difference. Yeah,

49:01

which is crazy. Yeah, because it's

49:03

like, the youngest and the oldest usually in a family

49:05

like wouldn't really have that much in common. But you

49:08

guys actually both had kids young like you were 28

49:10

right? When

49:12

you had Gigi, which is really young

49:14

for a boy. Yeah, 28. It's like

49:17

you having a kid already. You

49:19

know, like that's very young for a guy. Yeah,

49:22

that's true. Now look at us. Besties.

49:29

All right, you too. I'll do

49:31

mine. I actually thinking already. Really?

49:33

Yeah. I'll do you. Okay.

49:36

Do you want me to go? Okay,

49:38

I love what I love about

49:40

Tom is that like out

49:42

of everyone in my family. Jack's

49:47

Troy really big. Out of

49:49

everyone in my family, all my siblings, mum,

49:51

dad, whatever. If

49:53

I was I said this to you, I

49:55

think it's like, I always say this is

49:57

there if I was ever like in trouble.

49:59

or needed to make one phone call. If

50:01

I had one phone call and I was

50:04

like, stuck up shit

50:06

creek, no paddles, like, you

50:08

know, alone, whatever, like literally in the

50:10

worst scenario ever. And I had one phone

50:12

call, I would call Tom. Wow.

50:15

Yeah. But I'm not very good on the

50:17

phone. No, no, no, because I think you would answer.

50:19

Up shit creek would be a really good one

50:21

because you'll just get URM to come help you. No,

50:23

no, but look it out of the way. I

50:26

would call, okay, you are really bad on your phone. So

50:28

like no offense, I would not call you, but I know

50:30

you'd want to help me. You also don't answer the phone.

50:32

It would be on do not disturb. And I would have

50:34

to call twice just to even try and get through. Yours

50:37

is always on D and D. Is it? Always.

50:40

I just know I am D. I

50:42

always just have to call twice and then I

50:44

know I'm notified you. But I would call you

50:47

because like, I know you are like the most

50:49

caring person, that you're all caring, but you would,

50:52

I know you would like swing into action and

50:54

you would be like, what do you need? Whereas

50:56

like anyone else, like if I called max, I

50:59

know he'd be like, okay, cool. Well, I'm actually just here

51:01

right now. So like stay where you are. I'm

51:04

actually like flying. I'm actually here. I'm

51:06

there. You would literally be like, stay where

51:08

you are. I'm coming to pick you up. And I'd be like, no, but I'm

51:10

actually 12 hours away. You've got, that's fine. I'm already

51:12

in the car. I'll see that. Like you would

51:14

drive anywhere. You bend over back. Bend over back.

51:16

Would you break your back for your

51:19

family? Yeah. Like you, that is

51:21

like, you would literally help me out.

51:23

Sort me out. Like if I call you like, what do

51:25

you need? You were actually offering to drop me food at the

51:27

hospital yesterday. It's easy. I can show

51:29

up. I'm like, that's like an hour drive for you.

51:32

You do everything for your family. Like

51:34

there's no ask like too big anything.

51:36

Very loyal. Very loyal. Bundy, shout out

51:38

to Bundy. Yeah. That's really

51:40

nice. That's a really good. I wish

51:42

that told you that before. You're prepared

51:44

Bella. I think you are really sweet.

51:46

A lot of promise in this podcast. Yeah. I'd

51:51

probably say say Bella's positivity.

51:53

Like she is lights up

51:55

the room. Like her mother.

51:57

Honestly, she's always down for

51:59

it. champagne or ten

52:02

like just lights up the room whenever

52:04

you come in there which is pretty

52:06

good to have I always not

52:09

worry about you but I always yeah I feel

52:11

like you

52:14

know Max has got his shit together

52:17

Jack's got his little gang in here's got her little

52:19

gang and I just look

52:21

on her Instagram she'll just be behind the DJ

52:26

X it doesn't matter if it's a Monday

52:28

night a Saturday night always lit up with

52:36

15 champagne you don't know if it's

52:39

out in Heath Cross or out of

52:41

Milan like like where is this location?

52:43

Where you go you just turn it

52:45

up and people just love your energy

52:47

and good vibes yeah we'll just

52:50

be sitting there having a cup of tea

52:52

like with our grandparents and it's just like

52:54

you could be in a nursing home and

52:56

you just show up with a bottle of

52:58

champagne. Where's the party going? Always

53:00

got alcohol in a hand or a car.

53:02

I've got alcohol. Her energy is

53:05

infectious. Yeah thanks guys thank you

53:08

I love that. I'd

53:10

be drained if I carried that much fun with me

53:12

all the time. I have a massive social battery. Your

53:16

battery is like double A's kind of pain. But

53:18

then I also like that I just triple A's?

53:20

Which one's the bigger one? The big fat ones

53:22

you've got a lot of them. It

53:25

doesn't run out. I love it. The solar panels.

53:27

I love you. The solar panels

53:29

still turn. I just love a

53:32

good time. And then we'll go to the beach

53:34

or something and you'll just come down to the

53:36

beach and I'll like set up away from like

53:38

all the crowds have like my food and a

53:40

surfboard the umbrella ready to go just like don't

53:42

want to talk or see anyone and you'll come

53:44

down your bikini and just like waving and saying

53:46

hi like to get a hundred meters through the

53:48

beach you'll talk to like six different people on

53:50

the way. And we it's unbelievable. And

53:53

he would love your energy. That's good. I wish

53:56

I could sell that energy. Be worth it. Thank

54:00

you guys. You really are. The double shot almond lard.

54:02

Maybe you needed this morning. But I'm going to start

54:04

drinking them. The coffee. Because I

54:06

need that energy. Thanks guys. I love that. Well

54:09

we have a few questions. People

54:12

have called in to ask us. I

54:15

kind of posted on Instagram and I said, what

54:17

do you want to ask my siblings? So I

54:20

don't know. I haven't heard these questions. They could

54:22

be rogue. They could just be for you Jack.

54:24

So get ready. But let's take it away with

54:26

question number one. Hi

54:29

this is Holly and my question is,

54:32

has your relationship with Indie changed at

54:34

all during her

54:36

growth of followers or since she's

54:38

gotten a bit more famous? Thank

54:41

you Holly. Hi Holly. They

54:43

all want to be my friend now. We actually

54:46

didn't like her before. I

54:50

think we answered that one in my first. You answered

54:52

it when you said something you love about me. We're closer

54:54

now. Yeah but that's not from my saying. That's

54:56

not from my followers bro. I hope it's not from her followers. You

54:58

want to be like the thing that my followers have grown? Because you

55:00

got famous. No I probably had more respect I guess or you're balancing

55:04

some kids and then you're running this

55:11

hecticness. You know you get the kids, you get Navy and Bambi

55:13

and you just shoot out of ours. You got to go back.

55:16

We've got to do some stuff and I'm just like it's

55:18

Sunday afternoon. The lighting is perfect

55:20

right now at our house and she'll just take off

55:22

and just go do a million things

55:25

an hour with all the kids and then come

55:27

back like nothing's happened and I don't know how

55:29

you balance your balancing skills. Yeah.

55:32

Put you on a high rope or something you'd

55:34

be unbelievable. Yeah I feel like I'm more, I

55:36

grow more like in awe and appreciative and like

55:38

blown away by what you've achieved. Yeah. You're

55:41

probably first initially jealous. No I was aiming, you said to

55:43

me all the time how proud you are of me but I don't know if

55:46

you're just saying that like as it's a conversation to feel like. No I

55:48

do. I just I don't see

55:50

it. You know what I mean? I think it's

55:52

really hard because I don't feel like. I don't

55:54

see it. I don't see it. You don't. You

55:56

actually don't. I'm not just saying that. Like you're

55:58

not a self reflective like. back, look how far

56:00

I've come person and I feel like being

56:03

an outsider and seeing everything

56:05

and everything you've had. I feel like I

56:07

try and remind you, amazing.

56:09

Like I love you. I'm so proud of you. Like it's I

56:11

don't think I think you don't

56:14

hear that much. You don't give yourself

56:16

much credit. The time is constantly busy

56:18

and it's like, I'll

56:21

stop it. Like I feel like maybe back in the day,

56:23

I'll try. I

56:25

feel like we're competitive or whatever. But now I'm just

56:27

kind of like blown away. Like anyone that ever brings

56:29

you up when I'm out, because like when I go

56:31

out, which is a lot,

56:34

I meet so many of your fans. They come up

56:37

to me like no joke. I was walking through the

56:39

street and I'm like, they're like, I heard someone

56:41

go, oh my God, is that Indie Clinton? Like

56:45

I use it to my advantage. I'm like, you want to buy

56:47

me a drink? I get one for Indie two

56:49

shots. I'll do around the shots. One for

56:51

India and maybe a band. Yeah. Yeah. Like I literally

56:53

see it all the time and they come up to

56:55

me and I'm like, I know she's amazing. She's killing

56:58

it. I'm like, no, I know she's incredible. Like I

57:00

don't know how she does it. And they're like, sure

57:02

guy. Like they want it. Like

57:04

I'm so in awe. I don't think,

57:07

I think if anything, I've become more, um,

57:11

yeah, I don't know. Like with all your rides of everything,

57:13

like I'm like more, I guess, like, I don't

57:15

know. Yeah. It's just more like more

57:17

aware of how much you do. I think

57:20

cause you see that me with the kids and

57:22

like I'll be in the hospital like too late

57:24

and then I'm here and then it's like, it's

57:26

just with kids, it makes everything so much better.

57:28

Yeah. And I see firsthand how full

57:30

on your fat, like your kids are and how

57:32

full on it is being a parent. And I'm

57:35

like, and you're killing it at what you're doing

57:37

with work work wise. And I'm just like, Oh, I

57:39

don't know how you do it. Thanks guys. That's

57:41

really nice. Thank you Holly for

57:43

the question. Thank you for calling in. Question

57:46

number two. Hi,

57:48

Indie. Who's

57:50

your favourite brother? Good

57:52

question. That's a tough one. That is

57:54

a tough one. I go through phases. If

57:58

I'm going to, you know, like I, or, Obviously I

58:01

love my brothers, they're epic. And they've

58:03

definitely been through phases where I'm like,

58:05

you know, like Max, the

58:08

brother middle child, he's not here today.

58:10

So I've went through this week not speaking

58:12

to him. And then apparently

58:14

Ben called him and gave him an

58:16

earful and then he sends me the

58:18

cutest message. He's like, I'll be

58:20

there. I'll be there at 12 and I'll come support you, but

58:22

I just really don't want to be in it. It's like not

58:24

my thing. And I'm like, okay, it's so fine. Oh my God.

58:27

Oh my God. Oh my God. He's here. Oh

58:30

my God. He's here. He's here.

58:32

Oh my God. He came with flowers. We

58:34

are coming and coming in. Oh my God.

58:36

We don't all plan. We need to enter

58:38

in. Stop it. Okay, well, thank you. That's

58:40

so well. He's Max, he's in the background.

58:42

He can't even want to be taken with

58:45

flowers. He's naked. Oh my God. Max,

58:47

put your clothes on. Thank you for the flowers.

58:49

Thank you for the flowers. That's so kind. He's

58:51

here for lunch. Because I said if he didn't

58:53

rock up, then he wasn't coming to Urban Surfer

58:55

that. So obviously he's to that. Great. But

58:58

no, I definitely go through. So

59:00

Max is my favorite today, but I love

59:02

them all so differently. They're just, they're great

59:05

for different things. I feel like Max is

59:07

great. Like if you want to get a

59:09

business off the ground or something like you

59:11

contact Max, like Relax call Max. He's great

59:14

for entrepreneurial things. Like

59:16

he has a contact. If you're like

59:18

stuck in the middle of India, I

59:20

don't know, like in the middle of India, Max

59:23

will know Max will have a friend somehow. Yeah,

59:26

he'll have a connection. It'll be like the Prince of India.

59:29

So that's great. I love Max for that. He's

59:31

very, I love Tom for the way he's like

59:33

the fun uncle. Like I love it, but it's

59:35

really hard because now Navy doesn't actually want to

59:38

spend his weekends with me. He just wants to hang with Uncle

59:40

Tom. And I'm like,

59:42

Navy, what about like going stuff with me? He's

59:44

like, no, Uncle Tom. Like he cries if he

59:46

can't hang with Uncle Tom. And I love Jack for

59:48

being the Larry one. You know, he charges his

59:50

house. I mean, he charges his house. Next he will

59:52

have a house that'll have to charge. You love

59:54

my realness. He said my realness. I

59:57

love your realness. I love that you're

59:59

not. about you don't

1:00:01

take life too seriously why are you counting me down bro

1:00:03

no I'm just saying Max is three

1:00:05

I'm two Tom's one question

1:00:10

they asked for a favor I know you

1:00:13

say like mom does I don't have favorite

1:00:16

I know I genuinely don't have a favorite I'm sorry

1:00:18

whatever your name was

1:00:22

if he hadn't heard no I was about to say it

1:00:24

sounds a lot like Mac what the hell

1:00:36

I thought I was Holly no I did not know I'm a

1:00:38

cat amongst the pigeon oh my god

1:00:44

I knew it I got that sounds a lot like

1:00:46

max I didn't want to interrupt that high-pitched voice

1:00:48

I knew it was here I quite

1:00:50

like the person fell straight to the

1:00:52

point oh yeah no but thank you

1:00:54

all so much for joining sleep I

1:00:56

really appreciated

1:01:01

you guys coming on and supporting me I

1:01:04

know it meant a lot to me

1:01:06

I mean any more questions we have two more

1:01:08

questions you always interrupt me with the questions

1:01:10

all right you want more there we're gonna be off to

1:01:13

lunch I'm

1:01:15

so much for joining sleep deprived today do

1:01:17

you have any more questions Jack no

1:01:20

I've just written a sign off

1:01:22

yeah to the listener it's a

1:01:24

podcast though to the listeners thank

1:01:26

you for supporting my sister and following

1:01:28

her journey through life I hope it has

1:01:30

a positive impact on you guys

1:01:41

I love you let's go to lunch