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Smartless. Smart. Smart.

3:14

Yeah, God that was... Yeah, he's barely with

3:16

us. Stupid Sean didn't know we had

3:18

to record today. What did we interrupt

3:20

Sean? Were you in the middle of

3:22

toasting Poptart? No, I wish. I saw

3:24

my things and my trays and... Is

3:26

that your trays? Is that invisible line?

3:28

Is it just a bite? Is it

3:30

like a bite stick? No, I have

3:32

one more tray to go. And then

3:35

what are you working towards perfect teeth

3:37

when they lay you in the coffin?

3:39

Is that what it is? Why did

3:41

you choose to do it in the

3:43

last third of your life? They were

3:45

pretty, they were pretty jacked. They were

3:47

getting real jacked. No, they really weren't.

3:49

You're just running out of shit to

3:51

fuck with. Well, this is true. This is

3:53

true. This is true. No, I panicked. I had

3:55

a whole other thing and then I just got

3:58

the text. I was like, oh my, there's. It's

4:00

like getting a text saying, sleeping

4:02

through your alarm clock. Absolutely, or getting

4:04

a text that says, where are you

4:06

at? You're on your way? Yeah, like,

4:09

oh my God. What do you guys do? How

4:11

do you guys not miss appointments on a

4:13

day? I usually don't. Do you, but do

4:15

you, but why? Why do you not miss

4:18

them? Is it because you look at your

4:20

calendar calendar at the night before or morning

4:22

of? Night before. Night before, yeah. Night before.

4:24

And I do a, I get an

4:26

email the night before as well from

4:29

people I work with that say, here's

4:31

what you got coming up tomorrow. I

4:33

do a week. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

4:35

You're getting an email from people you

4:37

work with. Yeah. Yeah. That they send,

4:39

so this is from your executive assistance?

4:41

From Sweet, from Sweet Liz. And she

4:43

sends me. Hey boss, boss man, here's

4:46

what's coming up for you tomorrow. Doesn't,

4:48

I don't make her talk to me

4:50

like that. I'm not like you. She

4:52

sends me an email Sunday, Sunday night,

4:54

I get week at a glance. Oh

4:56

nice, and she does. Like it's a

4:58

TV show. Yeah, we get a glance

5:01

and she sort of says, this is

5:03

what's coming up in the next week.

5:05

And sometimes even if it's a busy

5:07

month, she'll be like, this is what's

5:09

coming up. Yeah, but you can't do

5:12

that yourself. I kind of do that

5:14

too. Hashtag relatable. I could do it

5:16

myself. By the way, you're the call

5:18

my assistant guy. She'll put stuff on

5:20

my calendar, but I will give myself

5:23

a week at a glance. You'll say

5:25

talk to the assistants. You say that

5:27

I've heard you say it a million

5:29

times. Listen, I love you. There are

5:31

very few people who love you more

5:33

than I do. I love you a

5:35

lot. Sean, but you're made up of

5:37

your nothing but blind spots. Sean, do

5:39

you have an... Sean laughed at the

5:41

two. Do you have an assistant, Sean?

5:43

I do, yes. It helps my life.

5:45

Do you not know his assistant? Do

5:47

you, hang on, Jamie? No, I don't.

5:49

How do you not? Why do I

5:51

not? Because I know this, and I

5:53

know Bloom. Yeah, I know Bloom. What's

5:55

his name? Nick. Nick. Nick. Why have

5:57

I never met Nick or ever heard

5:59

of Nick? Because you're not, this

6:01

is what I'm saying, because

6:04

you're living in a blind

6:06

spot, bro. Hey, Wayne, keep

6:08

your voice down. I'd love

6:10

it if your name was

6:12

Wayne. I know, Wade. Only

6:14

thing better would be Wade,

6:16

if my name was Wade. If

6:18

my name was Wade. I

6:20

had a buddy named Wade,

6:22

Wade, Wade Wilson. Wait. Wait,

6:24

what's been, Sean, how you been

6:27

doing? Are you, I'm still

6:29

fraled. Why something? No, I couldn't

6:31

tell the other night like I just

6:33

I feel like it's a very Nothing

6:35

to do with what's going on in

6:37

the I don't mean like sort of

6:40

no like in general. It's a weird

6:42

time I for me. It's kind of

6:44

a weird time I woke up yesterday

6:46

with and I don't get this a

6:48

lot I had like general anxiety

6:50

About I don't know I couldn't explain

6:52

it no grade yeah kind of low

6:54

grade and I couldn't I couldn't shake

6:56

it and I don't know and I'm

6:58

not really Made that way in the

7:00

sense that like I'm I feel really

7:02

lucky that I think I've mentioned this

7:05

before Downey once said nobody wakes up

7:07

in the morning morning happier to be

7:09

themselves than you and it's sort of

7:11

true that's kind of true yeah but

7:13

but I do you're not bright enough

7:15

to be concerned about things I think

7:17

so I think that's probably true it's

7:19

a lot of intelligence to really see

7:21

all the problems that could come your

7:23

way I think that's true or or

7:25

it's just that everything's worked out but

7:28

it's one of the two but we

7:30

had a we had a wonderful conversation

7:32

on Saturday around the table I love

7:34

that we had a really great conversation

7:36

with Dan friend Danny D's whom we

7:39

all love in a door but I

7:41

but you know sometimes so I think

7:43

that the the contrast when I'm not

7:45

feeling great is so is I really

7:48

feel it because usually you're 72 and

7:50

breezy yeah and it was weird man

7:52

and I kind of took all day

7:54

and I was like and I'm just

7:56

trying to I don't know I

7:58

was looking to reader All day I

8:00

was like, what am I going to

8:02

do? And how about today? Did you

8:04

wake up back to it today? Yeah,

8:06

a little bit better today. Little bit

8:09

better today. Can I tell you what

8:11

it was? Yeah. Because I had

8:13

the same thing yesterday. Yeah. It

8:15

was the sugar. You think so?

8:17

It's sugar. Oh, that's interesting. It's

8:19

fucking. We had that big fat

8:21

fucking carrot cake. Yeah. And God,

8:23

was it good. And I was

8:25

a disaster yesterday yesterday. Not cheap

8:27

meal, cheap meal, sorry. And everybody

8:29

had served a little piece of

8:31

cake and will got served to

8:33

like two pieces of cake and

8:35

five things of ice cream. And

8:37

I said, I said, I said,

8:39

how many people are you cheating

8:41

for? Exactly. Well, how many people

8:43

are you cheating on? You did,

8:45

but did you notice this week

8:47

that I ate mine? I only

8:49

had one piece of cake and

8:51

then I had a few, few scoops

8:54

of ice cream, which I brought with

8:56

me. pregnant people as well, I guess.

8:58

It's not just, you know. But do

9:00

you remember two weeks ago when our

9:02

friend, when I went to have a

9:04

second piece and she looked at me

9:06

and she was like, honey, do you

9:08

really want to do that? She shamed

9:10

me? Yeah, yeah. This week, you guys

9:12

should just need to get married and

9:15

get it over with. I know this

9:17

week, she. She saw me look at

9:19

her, like she'd had like three bites,

9:21

tiny bites of her cake, and she

9:23

pushed it towards me. And I thought it was

9:25

a really kind of, I saw that. And then I

9:27

kind of got sad. I was like, why didn't she

9:29

push it toward me? Because you don't look as

9:31

much like a trash can, a little bit. Well,

9:33

I think that Shawnee, this is my vision of

9:35

you, is that you're like, I'm only having one

9:38

piece, and then you kept going into the the

9:40

kitchen, stuff. That is correct. That is correct. That

9:42

is correct. And silence and silence and shame. Yeah.

9:44

Yeah. Anyway, so yeah, so we're feeling good today

9:46

though, right? We're all back to it. That's interesting

9:48

about the sugar thing though, Jay. I want to

9:50

talk about that. I think the sugar thing is

9:52

true, good. And you know what the other thing

9:55

is? My new hack, and maybe I've talked about

9:57

this, I just, I tried to call a few

9:59

people and talked. a few people and

10:01

ask them how they were doing

10:03

and that was really helpful. Oh,

10:05

that's good. Yeah, that really really

10:07

helped. Get out of your own

10:09

head a little bit. Do you

10:11

not have my right number? You

10:13

might have my right number. I

10:15

knew how you were doing, okay?

10:17

Which I just seen you nine

10:19

hours before. We all know how

10:21

you were doing, okay? I'm cold

10:23

this morning. We love you. We

10:25

love you. I love you. And

10:27

I love our next guest. Guys,

10:29

guys, today, we have a fellow

10:31

who's been a... part of our

10:33

lives for a long time. He's

10:35

been delivering films and TV shows

10:37

as a director and as an

10:39

actor for about 35 years. He's

10:41

a huge part of the entertainment

10:43

business, but keeps well out of

10:45

the spotlight. As a director, he

10:47

can deliver some of the most

10:49

hilarious moments on screen or the

10:51

most brutal and disturbing. As an

10:53

actor, he can do the same.

10:55

He loves football, his son, and

10:57

Ari Emanuel. Not necessarily in that

11:00

order. I love him, his movies

11:02

and his ability to send hilarious

11:04

gifts. In that order. It's America's

11:06

Pete Berg. Come on out, Pete.

11:08

Wow! Wowie! Did I get that

11:10

right? Is that the order? Is

11:12

your love for football, Emmett, and

11:14

Ari, is that the bright order?

11:16

It's my son, Ari, football, I

11:18

would have to say. But they're

11:20

all up there, dude. They're all

11:22

up there. That's cool. It's so

11:24

nice to meet you. It's a

11:26

pleasure to meet you. Well, sorry

11:28

to hear about the anxiety. I

11:30

agree with Bateman. It's definitely the

11:32

sugar is not helping. So no,

11:34

and you're very smart about that

11:36

stuff, right? Pete, you should know

11:38

I've been off the sugar for

11:40

a few months, but I have

11:42

one cheap meal every seven days

11:44

as per my... That's why it's

11:46

affecting you a lot. Probably because

11:48

your body's so cleaned out. But

11:50

does sugar have to be part

11:52

of the cheap meal? pizza or

11:54

something like bacon. Yeah, have bacon.

11:56

I think it's I think it's

11:58

that and everything else I probably

12:00

should I think that it's just

12:02

well, but like like any of

12:04

us sort of folks in recovery

12:06

We miss the sweet. We miss

12:08

the sugar of alcohol. And I

12:10

think it's, you know, for a

12:12

long time, for some reason, cigarettes

12:14

curved that, curbed it for me

12:16

for a while. And then when

12:18

that went away, like now, yeah,

12:20

then the Coke, because it looks

12:22

like sugar. No. Stavia helps me

12:24

out. Steve, you help me out.

12:27

Pete, you're good with, you're good

12:29

with, you're good with, look at

12:31

you, God. You look trim, man.

12:33

You look crazy. So good. If

12:35

you took that tarp off right

12:37

now, you'd see someone that could

12:39

beat your ass, Arnett. Pretty handle.

12:41

I know he could. Runs a

12:43

boxing gym. I do. I've known,

12:45

I've known Pete, Pete, you and

12:47

I have known each other very

12:49

loosely for years. I've said hi

12:51

to you many times and I

12:53

wish it was more than just

12:55

a high. It's always been in

12:57

passing. And Sean, I don't believe

12:59

we've met, but it's a pleasure

13:01

to meet you also. This is

13:03

correct. We have not met and

13:05

it is a pleasure to meet

13:07

you too, Peter. I'm a big

13:09

fan. Pete, tell me about the

13:11

boxing while we're here. This is,

13:13

it's, it's, it's been a steady...

13:15

escalation of commitment from you, not

13:17

just in training, but then like

13:19

now you're, now you're co-owning a

13:21

gym. Help. Yeah, so. About 15

13:23

years ago I was thinking about

13:25

maybe a side hobby and people

13:27

were asking me if I wanted

13:29

to go in on a restaurant

13:31

or maybe a bar and and

13:33

to me that just seemed like

13:35

a horrible idea for many reasons

13:37

just like one talk about like

13:39

all blind spot I had I

13:41

had enough of because I'm like

13:43

you I have a lot of

13:45

blind spots but there was I

13:47

I sensed that that would be

13:49

a bad move for me to

13:51

open a bar be part of

13:54

that yeah and at the time

13:56

I would was boxing at a

13:58

club that Bob Dylan owns in

14:00

Santa Monica. And the trainer of

14:02

the gym got into a beef

14:04

with Bob, which is a whole

14:06

great story in itself. Getting into

14:08

beefs with Bob Dylan, which, like

14:10

there's a whole side of Bob

14:12

Dylan around a boxing gym. You

14:14

know, you're really annoying me today.

14:16

And if you don't do something,

14:18

I'm going to get physical on

14:20

you. But we used to spar

14:22

Bob. But you could never hit.

14:24

You weren't really allowed to hit

14:26

him back. And he would pop

14:28

you. Bob Dylan had a sharp

14:30

jab. And it was supposed to

14:32

be like, you couldn't hit him

14:34

back. So I took a few

14:36

shots from Bob. But Dylan got

14:38

in a fight with the then

14:40

head trainer and fired him. And

14:42

Gary Shandling, who's a good friend

14:44

of mine, was also training at

14:46

that gym. And Gary came to

14:48

me and said, Pete, why don't

14:50

we take this trainer and start

14:52

our own gym? And I said,

14:54

okay, it seemed like a better,

14:56

more interesting experience than opening a

14:58

bar. And so Gary and I

15:00

backed this gentleman, started our own

15:02

gym, and the gentleman who we

15:04

hired ended up leaving, we had

15:06

some problems with him, and then

15:08

Gary died, RIP, Gary Shandling, who

15:10

I loved so much, and left

15:12

me alone with a boxing gym,

15:14

and it has... been one of

15:16

the stupidest things that I've ever

15:18

done in my life what's the

15:20

next fucking none what what's the

15:23

do not open sounds like such

15:25

an easy thing to run low

15:27

overhead there's no maintenance is no

15:29

clean these towels you know what

15:31

you know what you know two

15:33

things two things actually technically three

15:35

things one thing is people people

15:37

say that I got a lot

15:39

of blind spots but I don't

15:41

see them the other thing is

15:43

this is my son who 16

15:45

the last year and a half

15:47

he's gotten into boxing and he's

15:49

boxing at another gym that I'm

15:51

not gonna name but he's going

15:53

twice and now he just said

15:55

to me last night dead can

15:57

I start going three times a

15:59

week and he boxes with this

16:01

guy which is really cool and

16:03

I was thinking like I'd love

16:05

to get him out to your

16:07

gym maybe and get him in

16:09

there get another. Church Hill Boxing

16:11

Club in Santa Monica come on

16:13

down it's it's a great gym.

16:15

We're gonna get a nice boon

16:17

but here's what I want to

16:19

say is a little sideline because

16:21

I do want to finish the

16:23

boxing theme is we haven't spent

16:25

enough time I feel like we've

16:27

been delinquent on this podcast we

16:29

haven't spent enough time talking about

16:31

and giving credence to Gary Shandley

16:33

because he was one of talk

16:35

about a heavyweight to use the

16:37

analogy this guy was an unbelievable

16:39

he's the reason I got HBO

16:41

because P you knew him I

16:43

didn't know the guy but what

16:45

an influence he had on on

16:47

what we consider to be comedy

16:50

now in a lot of ways

16:52

Gary Shandling actors writers format sure

16:54

what was he like what was

16:56

he like so I mean I

16:58

got to to see both sides

17:00

of Gary and I saw him

17:02

as you know a comic Titan

17:04

and a very entrenched member of

17:06

our industry. And that's how most

17:08

people knew Gary. The boxing gym

17:10

is actually a fascinating culture. Our

17:12

gym is meant to be a

17:14

pretty traditional boxing gym with pro

17:16

fighters. So we would have a

17:18

lot of Russians, South Americans. We

17:20

had folks from Japan, we had

17:22

Chinese fighters, and these were young

17:24

men who would come to LA,

17:26

rarely spoke much English, were not

17:28

at all connected. and Gary took

17:30

a deep interest in their lives.

17:32

And I would come into the

17:34

gym and Gary would be sitting

17:36

with, you know, a couple of

17:38

kids from Argentina talking about boxing

17:40

and. talking about life and had

17:42

this incredible connection. And when Gary

17:44

passed away, there was a huge

17:46

memorial. I don't know if any

17:48

of you guys went to it,

17:50

you know, a couple thousand people,

17:52

you know, everyone in Hollywood went

17:54

to Gary's memorial service. And then

17:56

the next day we had a

17:58

service for him at the gym

18:00

and there were, you know, a

18:02

couple of hundred people who knew

18:04

Gary only as G from the

18:06

gym. And they had no idea

18:08

that he had this other life.

18:10

They just thought he was a

18:12

really sweet guy who cared about

18:14

them and he really did. And

18:17

so that was... side of Gary,

18:19

he absolutely loved boxing. He loved

18:21

Bob Dylan and love fighting with

18:23

Bob Dylan. I'd love to see

18:25

that paper. That's such a funny

18:27

image. Gary tried to do a

18:29

talk show where he would he

18:31

would he would fight you three

18:33

rounds in the ring and as

18:35

soon as those three rounds were

18:37

over you would collapse and and

18:39

he'd do an interview. He would

18:41

do the interview. and he only

18:43

did one with Alec with Alec

18:45

Baldwin. And I was there for

18:47

it and they both I think

18:49

had heart attacks literally many heart

18:51

attacks and And at the end

18:53

of the third round Baldwin was

18:55

laying on his side and Gary

18:57

was laying on his stomach and

18:59

they were wheezing there was like

19:01

And Gary was trying to ask

19:03

him questions had to get started

19:05

Alec and Baldwin was just like

19:07

I think I really need some

19:09

water And I'm like, I'm like,

19:11

guys, you're both. You're both, I,

19:13

it never erred. Did you shoot

19:15

it? We did. I've seen it

19:17

being, and it got kind of

19:19

real too when they were fighting

19:21

too, right? They were getting the

19:23

shit out of each other. Both

19:25

were tough and Gary was deceptively,

19:27

you know, effective as a boxer.

19:29

And I think Alec didn't quite

19:31

know what he was in for.

19:33

So it started, over and over

19:35

and over. Yeah, it got weirdly.

19:37

and like it was uncomfortable. Pete

19:39

you got to show us this

19:41

you shot it? I Gary shot

19:43

it so we could maybe dig

19:46

it up but it was it

19:48

was priceless but I was literally

19:50

concerned that they were both having

19:52

heart attacks and I got them

19:54

to stop and drink water and

19:56

then you know it was one

19:58

of those it was a deep

20:00

level of exhaustion it just wasn't

20:02

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20:04

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20:06

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show. Pete I

23:19

do want to go back there. I

23:21

want to get back into how you

23:24

became who you are which is a

23:26

like Jason said in the intro I

23:28

mean you're incredible filmmaker and and actor

23:30

and you haven't acted as much in

23:33

the last few years as you used

23:35

to But you started as an actor

23:37

and Jason you probably feel a lot

23:39

of Connection to what Pete does because

23:42

he was able to kind of go

23:44

from an actor who was in a

23:46

lot of stuff and people wanted and

23:48

become a director yourself Which I know

23:51

is a trajectory that you're that you're

23:53

sort of on Pete talk a little

23:55

bit about that like about being an

23:58

actor who's auditioning for jobs than an

24:00

actor who's in demand and then turning

24:02

that into or having the vision or

24:04

having what? Talk about what it was

24:07

that inspired you to become a director,

24:09

etc. So I think one of the

24:11

light bulb moments for me that got

24:13

me really starting to think about directing,

24:16

which is something I'd always thought about,

24:18

and I think Jason always had to,

24:20

and it was something we used to

24:22

talk about when we were working together.

24:25

I remember on the set of Hancock

24:27

in particular, you talking about filmmaking, kind

24:29

of sensing that you were going to

24:32

move in this direction. But for me,

24:34

I was in action. on Chicago Hope,

24:36

which was a pretty successful medical drama

24:38

and we went up against ER every

24:41

Thursday night at 10 o'clock and they

24:43

beat us every Thursday night, but we

24:45

were still getting, you know, 23 million

24:47

people watching us, which we thought was

24:50

just horrible because we were coming in

24:52

second and that was horrible, but in

24:54

looking back on it, obviously it wasn't.

24:57

But I was getting kind of famous

24:59

as this doctor, Dr. Billy Cronk on

25:01

Chicago Hope. And you know, thank you.

25:03

And you know, when you back then

25:06

in particular got TV famous, you were

25:08

pretty famous. So wherever I went, people

25:10

were like, hey Billy, how you doing

25:12

Billy? How's Diane? My wife on the

25:15

show. And hey Billy, how's the... And

25:17

I'm like, okay, I'm not fucking Billy.

25:19

My name's Pete. And at a certain

25:21

point I started... sensing that if I

25:24

wasn't careful, my legacy was going to

25:26

be Dr. Billy Cronk, the TV doctor,

25:28

and I was on a plane flying

25:31

from LA to JFK, and I was

25:33

sitting in my seat, and people were

25:35

walking by me, and a man stopped,

25:37

and he said, hey Billy. And I

25:40

said, my name's not Billy. He goes,

25:42

hey Billy, my wife has this rash.

25:44

What do you think? Show them the

25:46

rash. And she pulled up her shirt

25:49

and stuck her elbow, which had a

25:51

really bad rash on it, in my

25:53

face. And I'm just sitting there staring

25:56

at this rash. And they're smiling. I

25:58

mean, all other people on the plane

26:00

are all kind of like, hey Billy,

26:02

what do you think the rash is?

26:05

And I'm like, that's it. I'm not

26:07

doing this anymore. And I started, you

26:09

know, writing and I wrote a movie,

26:11

Very Bad Things, which was my first

26:14

film. And that, you know, was something

26:16

that once I got a taste of

26:18

that and figured out that I could

26:20

do it, I never really look back.

26:23

And I do love acting, but I

26:25

was not going to be Billy Cronk

26:27

for the rest of my career. But

26:30

what was that thing that made you,

26:32

were you scared? I'm going to try

26:34

to do this. Like, how did you

26:36

get over the fear of... Because you

26:39

had a real career as an actor,

26:41

like, so you got to make a

26:43

leap a little bit and go, like,

26:45

all right, I'm going to do this.

26:48

So I was flying to New York

26:50

to act when the... The same guy

26:52

was on the plane and said, I

26:54

have a different rap. And the reason

26:57

I was on that plane where I

26:59

was... Presented with the rash was I

27:01

was flying to New York to be

27:04

in a movie called Copland. I was

27:06

gonna act in it And that was

27:08

Stallone and DeNiro and Stallone had put

27:10

weight on and was gonna You know

27:13

try and win an Oscar and this

27:15

was Harvey Weinstein producing it in the

27:17

height of his power and and Ray

27:19

Leo and Harvey Kaitan all these big

27:22

stars were in the film and I

27:24

I had a small part in it

27:26

and and I had a small part

27:29

in it and I directed that too

27:31

right and directed it I was one

27:33

of the cops and most of my

27:35

scenes were in this like bar and

27:38

I would just sit around waiting for

27:40

my one line. So Stallone would talk

27:42

and DeNiro would talk and then finally

27:44

would be my line and I'd be

27:47

like, yeah for sure. And then, and

27:49

anyway. Sounds like me and kingdom. You

27:51

had a great, you were phenomenal. Turn

27:53

left. No, no, no. Jason, by the

27:56

way, Sidebar, Sidebar, Jason and I have

27:58

one of my favorite lines ever delivery

28:00

in the film, and you know what

28:03

it is. He was like, hey, Driver,

28:05

are you late for something? Remember that?

28:07

You guys are cruising along the desert?

28:09

Fuck, I love that. of Copland just

28:12

watching everything happen and there was this

28:14

young director James Mangold and I was

28:16

watching him and he was arguing with

28:18

Stallone and getting into all this creative

28:21

stuff with DeNiro and Ray Leo and

28:23

he was just like he was alive

28:25

he had this energy coming out of

28:27

him and I was sitting there waiting

28:30

for my line and I'm like yeah

28:32

and I finally at lunch I walked

28:34

up to him I didn't really know

28:37

him I said hey man can I

28:39

ask you a question. I said, yeah,

28:41

what's up? He said, how do I

28:43

get your job? Yeah. Yeah. How do

28:46

I get your job? You want to

28:48

work 60 minutes an hour, not just

28:50

10. And he said, you got to

28:52

write. And I said, okay, well, how

28:55

do you do that? He goes, well,

28:57

do you know how to write? I

28:59

go, well, do you have an idea?

29:02

I said, kind of. He said, well,

29:04

what I do is I use milk

29:06

cards. And so I went back to

29:08

my hotel and I was staying in

29:11

the Essex house in New York You

29:13

know that hotel sure has a big

29:15

sense of parks out the big beautiful

29:17

park views, right? Yeah, I had the

29:20

shittiest room in the hotel I had

29:22

the back tiny little room in the

29:24

back of the hotel that looked out

29:26

over an alley and I went home

29:29

and I went to the drugstore I

29:31

got no cards I got pen and

29:33

I started note I started write in

29:36

the note cards and outline in the

29:38

script. But I had a really small

29:40

room and I had the note cards

29:42

kind of all over the room and

29:45

I'd go to work and come back

29:47

and more note cards and I had

29:49

this whole crazy system and one day

29:51

I came back and the note cards

29:54

had all been moved and cleaned up

29:56

and I'm like, who did this? And

29:58

they told me it was Manuela, the

30:00

housekeeper. So I found Manuela, I'm Manuela,

30:03

you can't do this. I'm writing a

30:05

movie. And she's like, what? And I

30:07

told her about these guys who go

30:10

to Vegas and accidentally kill a hooker

30:12

and then have to chop her up.

30:14

And she's like, oh my God, then

30:16

what happens? And Manuela helped me write

30:19

the script. I would bounce it all

30:21

off of her. That's so good. I

30:23

had to script up all throughout the

30:25

room. It was on all the walls.

30:28

I was like living in it. One

30:30

day I came back and I went

30:32

to go in the room and the

30:35

key didn't work and I went down

30:37

and they said Mr. Burwe have probably

30:39

had to move your room. And I'm

30:41

like, holy shit, they took me up

30:44

to the top floor. I went to

30:46

turn to where the shitty rooms were.

30:48

They go, no, you're this way. To

30:50

where the good rooms were. Walk me

30:53

down into the park suite. And I

30:55

walk in this beautiful suite and the

30:57

staff at the Essex house had cleared

30:59

out the walls and put my script

31:02

up on the walls. No way. Man,

31:04

well had told us what you're doing.

31:06

We wish you the best of luck.

31:09

Come on. That's amazing. moment really changed

31:11

everything for me. That's incredible. I never

31:13

knew that. Jesus. That's incredible. What a

31:15

great story about humanity, people and belief

31:18

and all that kind of. Also, I

31:20

think like to think that Manuela, before

31:22

she knew it was a screenplay, she

31:24

was nervous because she had all these

31:27

cards about going to Vegas and killing

31:29

the hooker. She's like, I got a

31:31

serial killer here. This guy. your, you

31:34

know, you're very, you've got a very,

31:36

your taste, your sensibility, your personality is

31:38

very, you know, seasoned and no bullshit

31:40

and, you know, there's no real artifice

31:43

to you, which I just fucking love,

31:45

and yet, and you've somehow managed to

31:47

take that. and mold it into an

31:49

actual visual aesthetic too. Where did that

31:52

come from? Like the style of your

31:54

films, the way in which they're shot,

31:56

the way in which they're cut, the

31:58

actors you hire, the things you ask

32:01

them to do and not to do?

32:03

Like, how is that shaped? I mean,

32:05

the things that I think that I

32:08

do that tend to work the best,

32:10

like if it's Friday Night Lights for

32:12

the kingdom or Deepwater. Horizon or Patriot's

32:14

Day. These are films that I do

32:17

a tremendous amount of research on. You

32:19

know, I'm kind of a cycle about

32:21

that. I'm in Tel Aviv right now.

32:23

And last night we had a missile

32:26

attack that was pretty amazing. And somewhat

32:28

terrifying. And I've always been someone who

32:30

likes to see things for myself. And

32:32

that generally translates to my writing. And

32:35

I try to have his deep about.

32:37

almost anthropological or almost journalistic understanding of

32:39

my world. So, you know, I went

32:42

to Saudi Arabia a long time ago

32:44

before we did the kingdom and, you

32:46

know, lived there for three weeks and

32:48

got as much of an understanding as

32:51

I could about of that culture. And

32:53

once I kind of feel like I've

32:55

done that work and I understand the

32:57

world, when I did Lone Survivor, I

33:00

went to Iraq and embedded with the

33:02

Navy SEAL platoon for a month on

33:04

the border of Syria. And that helped

33:07

me make a... better film. And that

33:09

helps me in theory communicate with, you

33:11

know, someone, you know, like when we

33:13

were doing the scene in the kingdom

33:16

where they, you know, we're gonna cut

33:18

your head off. You know, I've had

33:20

a, I've tried to have a proximity

33:22

certainly never to that kind of level

33:25

of violence, but to at least understand

33:27

as best as I can, you know,

33:29

what these, you know, executions were looking

33:31

like and how they might have. gone

33:34

down and that I think could help

33:36

me help you reach an appropriate level

33:38

of terror and a willingness to fight,

33:41

which you did so well in that,

33:43

which I found fascinating. And I've had

33:45

so many people talk about that scene

33:47

and how Jason Bateman, this sweet funny

33:50

guy, went fucking psycho to save himself.

33:52

And that really comes from the research.

33:54

So then you're looking for a level

33:56

of authenticity that then just naturally lends

33:59

itself to, let's say, a handheld camera.

34:01

saturated color blah blah blah like so

34:03

all of these things you're you're you're

34:05

engineering it from a very organic place

34:08

you're not kind of going backwards into

34:10

an aesthetic correct you're just going yeah

34:12

and you know when I was acting

34:15

on Chicago Hope back in those days

34:17

I learned so much because we were

34:19

doing 28 episodes a season and we

34:21

would have 28 different directors coming in

34:24

and I learned so much and a

34:26

lot of these directors were you know

34:28

they tried to have feature careers and

34:30

they were a bit and they were

34:33

angry and they were trying to prove

34:35

that they were tarantino or scorsese and

34:37

they would just spend so much time

34:40

setting up shops and doing all this

34:42

stuff and we as actors would sit

34:44

around waiting for all this equipment and

34:46

I'm like what the fuck are we

34:49

doing here like I want to act

34:51

I want to I want to be

34:53

feel free to to you know not

34:55

be beholden to the you guys have

34:58

all seen it. and lighting and making

35:00

and makeup and every it seems like

35:02

it it impacts everything other than the

35:04

actual acting. All right. Yeah and so

35:07

Pete's stylus have a yeah multiple cameras

35:09

handheld cameras going at the same time

35:11

and when they run out shooting on

35:14

film and they run out of film

35:16

the AC we just put the camera

35:18

on the ground reload to put another

35:20

magazine a film on top of the

35:23

camera while the other two are still

35:25

rolling and while we're resetting back to

35:27

the top of the scene like multiple

35:29

takes over and over and over and

35:32

over again without ever cutting. reloading the

35:34

cameras quietly. I remember when we were

35:36

rehearsing. Hancock. Remember we'd have all those

35:38

crazy rehearsals with Will and Shirley. Like

35:41

Soundstage, with the Kiva? Yeah, yeah. And

35:43

when I first met Charlotte, she came

35:45

up to me because Jason and I

35:48

had worked together and I knew Will

35:50

and I think Will had heard a

35:52

little bit about my style of work

35:54

and Charlie said, you know, Pete, I

35:57

understand, I've talked to Jason, I know

35:59

how you'd like to do this kind

36:01

of wild thing and move around lots

36:03

of cameras. I don't know, I don't

36:06

work that way. I need a certain

36:08

amount of organization and there has to

36:10

be a system where I can, and

36:13

I'm like, Charlise, no problem, I got

36:15

you, we'll do it, we'll cut and

36:17

we'll reset and do it. And then

36:19

like the first day I was working

36:22

with Jason and we were just going

36:24

off and Will was into it, and

36:26

I would come for Charlies. And then

36:28

about an hour she came up to

36:31

me and she came up to me

36:33

and she said, you know that that

36:35

thing you're doing you're doing with Jason,

36:37

do that to me. And I want

36:40

that too. Peter, I was thinking about

36:42

you the other day, I was down

36:44

in Fort Worth, Texas, not a bit.

36:47

And I was truly, I was doing

36:49

this thing, I was working with Taylor,

36:51

Sheridan, and it was a great guy.

36:53

And so I was standing at this

36:56

hotel and, you know, it was the

36:58

fall. And I hear, I'm in my

37:00

hotel room and I'm trying to go

37:02

over my shit that I'm working. I

37:05

keep hearing this like, Like what the

37:07

fuck is like is my phone on

37:09

and I keep looking around the room

37:11

the TV is not on I go

37:14

out and the thing and I look

37:16

out and I can just see over

37:18

the treetops in the distance this stadium

37:21

and I fucking look at him on

37:23

my phone and it's a fucking Texas

37:25

high school football game yeah a lot

37:27

and the stadium is packed and I

37:30

can hear the fans and I can

37:32

hear the announcement I was like Holy

37:34

shit, it was Friday fucking nightlights, man,

37:36

like it was incredible. Yeah, how did

37:39

that, how did that, how did, so

37:41

for the listener, yeah, Pete brought us,

37:43

Friday Night Lights, the film, and then

37:46

shepherded the television series to us as

37:48

well by doing what the, the pilot,

37:50

probably the first couple, and he peed

37:52

the whole thing, right? Yeah. your the

37:55

writer your second cousin to the writer

37:57

perhaps yes I was passengers my second

37:59

cousin was that helpful in it finding

38:01

its way to you or what or

38:04

did it happen without that it was

38:06

you know I had I had I

38:08

had followed the the book and read

38:10

the book and Buzz used to, you

38:13

know, push me to try and make

38:15

it. At the time I actually didn't

38:17

really have the juice. There were a

38:20

lot of filmmakers that wanted it and

38:22

Brian Grazier controlled it. And I would

38:24

call Brian and just sort of check

38:26

in with him. And I knew they

38:29

were going through a list of, you

38:31

know, some pretty top-tier directors. And Brian

38:33

was always nice and he was pretty

38:35

honest saying, you know, you know, maybe

38:38

we'll get... get to you. And two

38:40

directors, one fell out and one Brian

38:42

got annoyed with and fired. And he

38:45

called me and he said, okay dear,

38:47

it's yours. And that was an incredible

38:49

experience. And you know, when I was

38:51

doing Friday Night Lights, I went and

38:54

I was, I think I was 41

38:56

at the time, flew down to Texas.

38:58

and moved into a high school, this

39:00

school, Austin Westlake, and I stayed with

39:03

a football player's family, let me live

39:05

in his house, and I lived on

39:07

a futon in Koyani, who was a

39:09

wide receiver for us, like an 18-year-old.

39:12

I was probably saying there's 17 or

39:14

18 at the time. And I went

39:16

to high school with him every day.

39:19

And I went to football practice and

39:21

lived with this team. And it was

39:23

really an amazing experience. And that's why

39:25

it feels so real and authentic and

39:28

just just the way in which you

39:30

just shot the the sport as well.

39:32

What was your, did you play a

39:34

lot of football growing up? I played

39:37

high school football, but I tried, I

39:39

wanted to be a quarterback. My ego

39:41

was like, yeah, I'm gonna be a

39:43

quarterback and I was horrible. So for

39:46

three years I tried to play quarterback

39:48

very unsuccessfully. And my senior year in

39:50

high school, my coach moved me to

39:53

a defensive end. And I really realized

39:55

I should have done that all along

39:57

because I liked hitting people and I

39:59

didn't have the. I would get too

40:02

anxious and couldn't remember the plays and

40:04

just had some horrible disasters as quarterback.

40:06

When I finally moved to defense, you

40:08

know, I developed a real love. for

40:11

the game, but you know, the book

40:13

is about so much more than football

40:15

and I think that's why the show

40:18

works so well. It's really just, you

40:20

know, you're a huge sports fan, Jason.

40:22

I know how much baseball means to

40:24

you, right? I remember when I was

40:27

a kid, I played football when I

40:29

was really young and I remember my

40:31

mom telling me to go to this

40:33

guy's house to get fitted for the

40:36

equipment. And so I... and he gave

40:38

me the mouthguard to fit my mouth.

40:40

And the only good thing from the

40:42

whole experience was that it tasted like

40:45

mint. It was like a really deep

40:47

flavored. And it's like, oh, maybe I

40:49

could do this because it tastes so

40:52

good. That was the extent of my

40:54

happiness. Go ahead, Will. Well, I just,

40:56

I don't know where to start. Honestly,

40:58

that's so funny. I mean so much

41:01

I was like oh maybe there's a

41:03

silver lining here part of it's funny

41:05

part of it's funny and then part

41:07

of it's just a nothing story that

41:10

is a nothing disturbing and and you

41:12

know a Pete I'm sure that all

41:14

your films have you mentioned a few

41:16

of them like have Have a place

41:19

in your heart or in your in

41:21

your life where you look back and

41:23

they represent a thing or and I'm

41:26

sure you learned a lot from them

41:28

was there Was there one of your

41:30

films that that really for you? Transported

41:32

you and kind of Not not like

41:35

hey, I figured it out, but more

41:37

like And again, not even necessarily your

41:39

favorite, but something you just like you

41:41

learned a lot from that was like

41:44

a turning point film for you. I

41:46

mean, there was a moment when I

41:48

was, you know, sometimes I answer that

41:51

question and I mean it by saying,

41:53

you never set out to make a

41:55

shitty movie, no filmmaker does. And we

41:57

all understand how hard it is to

42:00

make a good film and sometimes they

42:02

absolutely suck. But so hard to just

42:04

make a movie that doesn't suck. one

42:06

that doesn't sell. That's so hard. I

42:09

don't think people appreciate that. No. to

42:11

be honest. You know, and people don't.

42:13

It's not their responsibility to appreciate it.

42:15

It's on us. You know, I've had

42:18

people just say, God, your movies, that

42:20

movie sucked. And I'm like, okay, fair

42:22

enough. I mean, yeah, I think we'll

42:25

do that. Appreciate that. Didn't, that wasn't

42:27

my goal. I assure you so much.

42:29

It's usually in the Boston area, by

42:31

the way, that you get that. For

42:34

real. And they don't, but yeah, Boston's

42:36

very direct. But you, you know, I

42:38

do love everything I've done and I

42:40

find, you know, that these are things

42:43

that I try as hard as I

42:45

can and hopefully the result is good.

42:47

So I do, I do have connections

42:49

to every film I've done. There was

42:52

a moment when I was making Friday

42:54

Night Lights, the movie. Where we were

42:56

going to film a scene, there's a

42:59

coin toss scene, that's a big dramatic

43:01

scene where all these schools have to

43:03

decide who's going to be in the

43:05

playoffs. And we'd been, but we scheduled

43:08

for three nights to film this scene.

43:10

It was a big scene, you know,

43:12

100 extras, Billy Bob Thornton, all the

43:14

principals were there, and it was a

43:17

complicated scene. And this was when I

43:19

was starting to find a style with

43:21

multiple cameras and what Jason was talking

43:24

about. Just keep moving and don't cut

43:26

and shoot and do a... So we

43:28

had three nights scheduled to shoot it.

43:30

And we got up there and rehearsed

43:33

it for a couple of hours and

43:35

I had the cameras going and we

43:37

shot it in about two hours. And

43:39

we cut. And I'm like looking at

43:42

Eric Hefron, who was my first idea

43:44

and you've worked with him Jason. And

43:46

he's looking at me and I'm like...

43:48

What do we have this scene? And

43:51

he's like, I think we do. And

43:53

this was two hours. We had three

43:55

nights to shoot this scene. And we're

43:58

standing there and the DP comes over.

44:00

He's like, what just happened? I go,

44:02

I'm not sure. I think the script

44:04

supervisor was all confused because he couldn't

44:07

make sense of any of it. And

44:09

I go, I think we've got it.

44:11

And then the producer came over. He's

44:13

like, you can't do this. I'm going

44:16

to get in so much trouble. and

44:18

that I was able to work in

44:20

a way that I didn't realize was

44:22

possible. And the actors loved it, and

44:25

it came out great, and I loved

44:27

it, and the studio saved a shitload

44:29

of money, and that became for me

44:32

kind of a personal sort of realization

44:34

that there are. not as many rules

44:36

as we think there should be. Interesting.

44:38

You know, I think I think the

44:41

Success of your guys podcast is another

44:43

example of that. You know, like really,

44:45

that's what happened. You just did it

44:47

and you followed no rules and you

44:50

followed your hearts and you have this

44:52

incredible relationship with each other and people

44:54

responded to it. And I think that

44:57

those are the kinds of signals or

44:59

signs that I look for as I

45:01

kind of. chug through my life. Yeah,

45:03

you know what else is great about

45:06

about that that that particular specific style

45:08

too is that it's super reliant on

45:10

the team. You know, those camera operators

45:12

and focus pullers, you can't get to

45:15

them in between action and cut. And

45:17

they've got to be making decisions in

45:19

the moment, watching and listening to the

45:21

scene, making composition work, etc., etc., etc.,

45:24

tagging certain things that they didn't get

45:26

in the last take. And it's all

45:28

that sort of teamwork that maybe is

45:31

an exciting comparison. for you to sports

45:33

and to what you appreciate with your

45:35

fellow line men as opposed to perhaps

45:37

the quarterback route you could have taken

45:40

where it's just like, oh, I'm the

45:42

star and who cares who's blocking for

45:44

me? I just need to, you know,

45:46

you got more in the trenches and

45:49

you potentially became more of a crew

45:51

guy than a cast guy that you

45:53

may have stayed had you gone the

45:56

quarterback route or maybe just stayed, you

45:58

know, as an actor. I'm just such

46:00

a big. I just love it. Well,

46:02

I think also everybody's probably really present,

46:05

right? Like everybody's saying, just say, Jason,

46:07

everybody's in it. There's no chance to

46:09

fuck off. and get on your phone

46:11

or whatever, you gotta be. It becomes

46:14

kind of like a bit like theater

46:16

or a live experience. I've had a

46:18

lot of actors say, like they've gone

46:20

into some sort of creative blackout while

46:23

we're doing it and they don't remember

46:25

exactly what happened and they were able,

46:27

and I've experienced that. I used to

46:30

do theater and I loved it. And

46:32

I'm sure you guys have felt that

46:34

before where, you know, it's, I'm one

46:36

to Tony last year. Good by Oscar.

46:39

Did you ever find that? That's a

46:41

good night. You must have gotten into

46:43

that flow state on stage where you're

46:45

just in it and you don't necessarily

46:48

remember it. You're not thinking. That's so

46:50

true. From the second you start pacing

46:52

backstage waiting for your entrance, right? You're

46:54

somewhere else a little bit and then

46:57

the second you step on, you're like.

46:59

Oh, there's just a couple shows here

47:01

and there where you have your mark

47:04

markers, where as you're talking in like

47:06

a monologue or something, you go, from

47:08

this point out, I have about 25

47:10

more minutes. Then I get to go

47:13

home and eat pizza. And so you

47:15

start having those those markers. But most

47:17

of the time you're in it. Yeah,

47:19

most of the time you have, you

47:22

don't have a choice but to be

47:24

in it, right? Yeah. We'll be right

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the show. Now Pete, I want

50:37

to talk to you about potentially on

50:39

the most challenging periods in your

50:41

career, going through the work experience

50:44

with Justin Thoreau on leftovers. How

50:46

did you manage to just keep

50:48

your head up? Go forward and

50:51

say, they're not all gonna be

50:53

like this. I did see that

50:55

he managed to work in a

50:58

shirt, like he went tarps off

51:00

in a running scene in the

51:02

pilot, which probably was his call.

51:05

Well, and I, and fucking thorough

51:07

stole your sleeveless look, you know,

51:09

Pete's got a great war cry,

51:11

basically, physical work, war cry. He'll

51:13

take, he'll grab, he'll grab his

51:15

short sleeves, he'll pull him up

51:17

over the top of his shoulder

51:19

cap and turn. move there that

51:21

creates the sleeveless look and it

51:24

gets gets everyone fired up. You

51:26

know when when we were getting

51:28

ready to cast left left, who

51:30

is a genius, you know, was

51:32

telling me, you know, I was

51:34

drunk in the pilot and he wanted,

51:36

you know, me to do kind of

51:38

what I wanted to do and he

51:40

certainly wasn't giving me mandates, but he

51:42

really was encouraging me to meet with

51:45

Justin Thoreau and I met with him.

51:47

And I couldn't figure him out. I'd

51:49

never seen anything like that. It was

51:51

a bit. You thought Damon was having

51:53

a laugh. He can't figure himself out.

51:55

So I mean, you keep going. And

51:57

you know, the tattoos and I've never.

52:00

I've never seen someone with less

52:02

body fat. There's just no one.

52:04

He's so ripped and so intense.

52:06

And I was like, I didn't

52:08

get it. And then I met

52:10

in, and Dan's like, he wants

52:12

to meet you again and we

52:14

met again. And I still didn't

52:16

totally get it, but he covered

52:18

his sleeves. He wore a shirt.

52:20

So I didn't have the tattoos.

52:22

And then we met a third time. And

52:25

I guess I. He wore me down

52:27

a little bit and he was so

52:29

determined to play this role and I

52:31

have to say once he showed up

52:34

on set, that guy is legit. He

52:36

did such a great job. He covered

52:38

the tattoos. He got his haircut looking

52:40

like because I didn't buy him as

52:43

a Midwestern cop, you know. I was

52:45

having trouble seeing that and he really...

52:47

transformed himself. And that show is so

52:49

fucking good. He looks like a West

52:52

Village. Like he's just kind of like

52:54

a downtown New York dandy that guy. So

52:56

he doesn't, you know what I mean? Like

52:58

you can't even, you know, he doesn't, you

53:00

can't even see him above 23rd Street. So

53:02

forget, he's a job guy for sure, but

53:04

he's a real actor and you know, he

53:06

is really is and that show, such a

53:09

good writer. Pete, Pete, that show is so

53:11

good. You and Damon and Damon and then

53:13

and then and then, and then, and what

53:15

Mimi leader did after. Mimi leader did after.

53:17

Mimi leader did after. Mimi leader did after.

53:19

New York did a great job. Like it's

53:21

just fucking beautiful, you know, Max Richter's music.

53:23

I mean, it's just, Max, and you

53:25

make, you, but you made all those

53:27

decisions setting that show up with the

53:30

way it looked, the way it sounded,

53:32

who's in it, where we're shooting it,

53:34

what the crew is. etc, etc, etc.

53:36

etc. And so thank you for that,

53:38

among all the other things you set

53:40

up. I just love your taste. I

53:42

was thinking about what you were saying,

53:44

I'm kind of going back a little

53:46

bit, but you know, I've had this

53:48

same frustration about, and I

53:50

love hearing about your style, Pete, because

53:52

there is nothing, I think it's even,

53:54

the hardest thing to do is to

53:56

make a funny film, because there's generally

53:58

no flow on on Saturday. you're turning

54:00

around and you're doing this

54:03

kind of shit. And there's

54:05

nothing less fun than trying

54:07

to make a comedy film.

54:09

they're really fucking tough to do.

54:11

And because the system is set up,

54:13

it's set against you. And that's why

54:15

often really funny films that break out

54:17

are films that are small films. They

54:19

come out of nowhere because they don't

54:21

have the budget to fuck around and

54:24

to have a big company move and

54:26

all this shit. It's just young people

54:28

who are like just grabbing, throwing cameras

54:30

on their shoulders and getting it. Two

54:32

or three, you know, two cameras, handheld,

54:34

blah, blah, blah. And that immediacy is

54:36

what you need in comedy. And it

54:38

just doesn't exist in a bigger format. Would

54:41

you agree with that? I saw Sean Baker's

54:43

film, his new film, Anora, is incredible. No,

54:45

I haven't seen it. That's the hardest I've

54:47

laughed in a movie in quite a while.

54:49

That's great. Did you see it, Sean? Yeah,

54:52

I saw it, yeah. What's the film? Anora.

54:54

Oh, yeah, we were just talking about

54:56

it. I haven't seen it. Yeah,

54:58

yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta check

55:00

that out. It's fantastic. I mean.

55:02

When that dude is in the

55:04

courtroom and the judge throws him

55:06

out and he tries to start

55:08

objecting, like he's part of the

55:10

legal defense team, I just haven't

55:12

laughed that hard. And to your

55:14

point, well, it's just, you know,

55:16

I'm a big fan of Sean

55:18

Baker and it's just loose, wild.

55:20

You don't know what. who these

55:22

people are that are in the

55:24

cast. Yeah, I remember seeing, I

55:26

remember seeing Rushmore in the

55:28

theater when it first came

55:30

out and feeling like, fuck,

55:32

this is fucking great. Right.

55:34

Because there wasn't any, well,

55:36

there's no, yeah, and there

55:38

was no, yeah, and there

55:40

was no, there was no,

55:42

there was no, there was

55:44

no, there's no, there's no

55:46

pretense, it was just, they

55:48

weren't part of the system

55:50

yet. How does your, you

55:52

have more patients or

55:55

less patients with actors

55:57

as a director? You know,

55:59

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