"Tig Notaro"

"Tig Notaro"

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guys, welcome to the show today. I hope

2:06

you're feeling really good. I got a hat

2:08

on you guys don't Are you jealous of

2:10

my hat? I've got a microphone though. I'm

2:12

ready to go with a microphone and a

2:14

Couple a couple of headphones here. Let's see

2:16

a couple of a couple of headphones here.

2:18

Let's see a couple of little guys And

2:20

that just leaves me and all I got

2:23

is a really bad attitude. Oh no and

2:25

a bad speech thing. We're doing well. We're

2:27

doing a lot. We're doing all these Marlers.

2:29

Smirous Marlers. Smart. You

2:46

know, Sean, you look like you

2:48

look a little bit more blonde

2:50

today. Did you do a rinse

2:52

this morning? No, I got a

2:55

hair kit yesterday and I didn't

2:57

color it. I got a color.

2:59

It's a little too... Nice try.

3:01

I saw Sean yesterday happen to

3:03

be... at CVS and he was

3:05

buying, he bought three things of

3:07

Sunin and he sprayed a bunch

3:09

of Sunin. It is a little

3:11

lighter than normal and I don't

3:13

like it so I'm going to

3:15

color it a little bit. No,

3:18

is Scavo, what's going to get

3:20

it? Sorry, go ahead, you go

3:22

ahead. Sorry, yeah, because I, hang

3:24

on a sec Will, this is

3:26

important. What kind of color? What

3:28

kind of color? Is there a

3:30

name for it? I'm at Max

3:32

Yeah, I'm sorry I know it's

3:34

like number five and number two

3:36

or whatever they have yeah well

3:39

you blend it's a blend it's

3:41

a blend it's a blend but

3:43

I know you don't like when

3:45

I color my hair, but I

3:47

like it well you well I

3:49

want I like what you like

3:51

but I just want to make

3:53

sure you know that I need

3:55

no color to love you any

3:57

more than I do well that's

4:00

I'm at Max Yeah, I'm sorry

4:02

I'm sorry I'm still reeling I'm

4:04

still reeling I'm five and two.

4:06

I think the coloring world is

4:08

going to be, I'm going to

4:10

have to call Eli or buddy

4:12

Eli Thomas, Skevo, we should have

4:14

a conference of all the hair

4:16

guys we know. We'll get McMillan

4:18

in there. Old Sweet, Sweet Chris.

4:20

And we'll bring them all in.

4:23

Is Skevo short for anything? No,

4:25

he is a shorter fellow, but

4:27

no, his name is full name

4:29

of Skevo. Do you call him

4:31

anything for short? Oh, sometimes you

4:33

drop the O, huh? What like

4:35

if you're in a rush? Yeah.

4:37

If you just got it, if

4:39

you're running a bunch of errands

4:41

and... What's his last name? Because

4:44

usually last name's more spicy than

4:46

the first. I'm going to tell

4:48

you right now. We can cut

4:50

out this pause, but I look

4:52

it up. Okay. Please be Miller.

4:54

His last name is Zembilla, Zembilla.

4:56

Zemboni. Hey, Will, by the way,

4:58

I played golf the other day

5:00

with the guy whose grandmother, I

5:02

believe, I'm getting this right, semi-right,

5:04

invented the Zamboni. Oh, I've played,

5:07

I've played golf with that guy

5:09

too. Yeah, and it happened down

5:11

here in like Paramount, California. Surprisingly,

5:13

not in Canada. Yeah. And Tracy,

5:15

the Zamboni is the machine, the

5:17

little, the sweet little car or

5:19

truck or minivan that you drive

5:21

over the ice rinks to make

5:23

it smooth and shiny. Cleans the

5:25

ice, you know, hot water and

5:28

thing and then drags and smooth

5:30

it out. It's the one thing

5:32

for hockey that's heard it in

5:34

terms of viewing because they have

5:36

the ice between periods and therefore

5:38

the intermissions are so long. It's,

5:40

you know, 20 minutes and it's

5:42

detrimental. There is no alternative. Why

5:44

don't they get two out there?

5:46

They do. They generally do. Pro

5:49

games, they do, yeah. Maybe they

5:51

need three. They might need three.

5:53

I don't know. I was, you

5:55

know, um, well, Sean's got something

5:57

on this. Well, Michelle Fyfer's character's

5:59

name in Greece, too, was Stephanie

6:01

Zen. I always thought it was

6:03

Zamboni. So listen. Sorry, do you

6:05

want to go down, do you

6:07

have a list of stuff you

6:09

misheard over the years? Okay, dudes,

6:12

every once in a while, we

6:14

get to have a guest on

6:16

that is also our friend. Today

6:18

is one of those days. I

6:20

love every moment I spend with

6:22

this woman and always wish for

6:24

more. She's funny? but never on.

6:26

She's kind and warm, but never

6:28

one of those smiley creeps. She's

6:30

done movies, television, radio, podcast, written

6:33

and bestsellers. She's been nominated for

6:35

Emmys and Grammys. She's got two

6:37

kids, one wife. She started in

6:39

Mississippi and now she's right here.

6:41

Say good morning to the great!

6:43

Tig Nataro. Tig. Tig. Tig. Tig

6:45

Nataro. I love that I was

6:47

described to a T and Sean's

6:49

still like, who could this possibly

6:51

be? Yeah, I just zipped through

6:54

it. They sound remotely familiar. I

6:56

knew and I knew and I

6:58

didn't I knew and I didn't

7:00

say anything because I didn't want

7:02

my disappointment to come through the

7:04

microphone so early. Now, hey, Tig,

7:06

your hair is growing out. It

7:08

looks good. Oh, I just started

7:10

today. I'm surprised you noticed. No

7:12

way is it growing. Yeah, you

7:14

really push it out. Push it

7:17

out. I just started growing it

7:19

out today. I woke up and

7:21

I was like, you know what,

7:23

I'm going to grow my hair

7:25

out. And I can't believe you

7:27

noticed. Day one, please do one

7:29

of those things you take a

7:31

snapshot every day for 365 and

7:33

then put it together as a

7:35

video as a video and set

7:38

it to a really sad song.

7:40

Hey, Tig, speaking of sad songs.

7:42

Both your parents still with us?

7:44

All three are dead. Three. Three.

7:46

Well, I had a stepfather that

7:48

raised me. And in fact, not

7:50

only is he dead, but he's

7:52

not coming back. He's not, he

7:54

has no way back to town.

7:56

A couple years ago when he

7:59

died and we were having his

8:01

funeral in Mississippi. It was an

8:03

outdoor burial and we were talking

8:05

to the priest was saying, how

8:07

do you want to do this?

8:09

It's more casual outside. I said,

8:11

well, I was going to say

8:13

something and my brother said, well,

8:15

I'll go first. I'll just say

8:17

something really quick. And he walks

8:19

up. And he fell into the

8:22

grave. No. No. Yes, he did.

8:24

Is that true? It is very

8:26

true. And my entire family is

8:28

sitting there. And you see everyone

8:30

just go, oh shit, oh my

8:32

God. And my brother, and there's

8:34

like this tarp over the hole.

8:36

And you just see my brother

8:38

slowly, like it caught him a

8:40

little bit, but he's slowly going

8:43

down. And yeah. I mean that

8:45

would be overwritten in a comedy.

8:47

I know it's too much and

8:49

we're trying to help it out.

8:51

Had he had a few? No,

8:53

no, no. He's just blind. No,

8:55

the place messed up. They were

8:57

supposed to put plywood over it

8:59

and you see the people from

9:01

the... I love that the lawsuit

9:04

says that place messed up. We're

9:06

suing you because you messed up.

9:08

That's the legal terminology. We messed

9:10

up. We messed up. We messed

9:12

up. What was he like getting

9:14

him out? Was it tough to

9:16

get him out? Well, we were

9:18

like, oh my gosh, trying to

9:20

help him out. He's like, no,

9:22

no, no, I'm okay. And he's

9:24

pulling himself out of the hole.

9:27

Like he was not going to.

9:29

let anybody pull him out. Have

9:31

you ever had a nightmare with

9:33

that? Has that imagery ever come

9:35

back to you? Like sort of?

9:37

No, that was like a dream

9:39

come true. That was a nightmare.

9:41

That was like, oh my God,

9:43

I couldn't believe my stepfather did

9:45

not get to see that happen.

9:48

Right. And you couldn't believe your

9:50

luck that you got to witness

9:52

it too. Well, and immediately I

9:54

thought, oh my God, this must

9:56

happen all the time. And then

9:58

I was like, wait. This can't

10:00

happen all the time that you

10:02

fall into grave. In Mississippi is

10:04

the end of that sentence. Yeah.

10:06

Well, and people ask, they're like,

10:09

oh, how come, what's it with,

10:11

you know, all of these stories

10:13

from the South and Mississippi? And

10:15

I'm like, I have no idea,

10:17

but I truly just show up,

10:19

look around and head home with stories

10:21

like that. I really. What was

10:23

that, what about, is that, did

10:25

you, was army of the dead

10:28

about zombies about zombies? You did

10:30

an Army of the Dead. Oh,

10:32

good transition. Army of the Dead,

10:34

I did do Army of the

10:36

Dead. Yeah, in fact, I did

10:38

it on green screen. Right,

10:40

because famously, you replaced a

10:43

fella on that, right? And so

10:45

you had to shoot everything on

10:47

green screen and then they superimposed

10:50

you into a film that was

10:52

already shot. Correct? Yeah,

10:54

easy enough. Were there zombies in

10:56

it? There were. There were zombies.

10:59

Sean, you saw the movie, I

11:01

guess. Yeah, well, I've done

11:03

some green for it. I've

11:05

done some green acting. Yeah. I

11:07

had to, I flew the, the

11:10

escape, like the

11:12

helicopter to get in. Yeah.

11:14

I've got to take off. Yeah.

11:16

And I had to do,

11:18

that's not my typical, you

11:21

know, acting role where I'm

11:23

yelling things and fighting things

11:25

and, and had to do it

11:28

all. Yeah, through every scene you

11:30

see me grabbing a donut and it's

11:32

all on camera. But you didn't

11:34

have to, you weren't a zombie

11:36

yourself, you didn't have to get

11:39

in any zombie makeup, did you?

11:41

No, I was just, I think

11:43

a lesbian. Those zombies aren't flying

11:46

a helicopter. It's just a lesbian

11:48

flying helicopter. That's what I

11:50

am and everything. No, TIG.

11:52

No, what about in Star Trek?

11:54

I'm a lesbian in space.

11:56

There's lesbians in space? There

11:58

are now. Now, do you

12:00

have to wear any alien makeup

12:03

in Star Trek? No, no. In

12:05

fact, they barely put any makeup

12:07

on me, I think, because they

12:09

really want to... They just put

12:12

jobs of lipstick and like really

12:14

big-eye-lapse chips. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

12:16

Or you're just sexually active. Massive

12:18

cleavage, too. No, truly? No, no.

12:21

My tits are in a dumpster.

12:23

Yeah. In Hollywood. Isn't that the

12:25

title of your new special? Yeah.

12:27

All right. Hey, Tig. Let's go

12:30

back to the very beginning. All

12:32

right. So we're in Mississippi. All

12:34

right. We're in Mississippi. Everyone's alive.

12:36

Everybody's happy. It's a good way

12:39

to start. Now, but you did

12:41

start as a. rock band manager

12:43

type of promoter. I'll help you

12:45

get on stage and from city

12:48

to city type of person. Yes.

12:50

Yes. Yes, that's true. Have you

12:52

ever spoken English before? What the

12:54

fuck is going on? Such a

12:57

journalist. But you know, I do,

12:59

I do love that about our

13:01

show. Every once in a while,

13:03

as I said in the, in

13:06

the intro, we get a friend

13:08

on here, and I end up

13:10

learning so much more about them

13:12

than I've ever learned in our

13:15

personal life. And what do you

13:17

think that is? Because you don't

13:19

take time to ask. I don't

13:21

ask questions. ask questions about other

13:24

people, right? Hey, Wayne, keep it

13:26

quiet. So, Wayne, you know what

13:28

I mean? So, but what about

13:30

this? So you were, you managed

13:33

bands? Well, I really love music

13:35

and I play a little guitar,

13:37

a little drum. Yeah, I read

13:39

that, I read that. And you're

13:42

a lesbian, so. Oh, just a

13:44

little bit. Sorry, I got confused.

13:46

And these are drums with sticks,

13:48

not the hand drums. No, no,

13:51

no, no. No. That's, see, I'm

13:53

still dabbling as a lesbian, so

13:55

I'm playing actual drums. So you

13:57

go cross over, then you start

14:00

doing drawn circles and you know.

14:02

I've been dabbling for decades, not

14:04

sold on it. But yeah, I

14:06

was too shy to perform. I

14:09

tried and it was nerve-wracking and

14:11

so my first girlfriend played in

14:13

a band and so I just

14:15

started booking the band and working

14:18

in music in the music. How

14:20

long was that you did that?

14:22

You did that. I don't know,

14:24

maybe three years. Are we driving

14:27

around in a van? Are we,

14:29

are you, yeah, yeah, like we

14:31

went on tour in a van,

14:33

you mean like that, like when

14:36

we were touring, yeah, we went

14:38

in a van. One time we

14:40

actually rented a friend of ours,

14:42

Bronco, and while we were on

14:45

tour, the hood flew up and

14:47

like bent in half. And you

14:49

couldn't see anything? We couldn't see

14:51

anything. My God, that's my worst

14:54

nightmare. I literally thought about that

14:56

just the other day. I was

14:58

watching, I could have sworn the

15:00

hood was vibrating a little bit.

15:03

I thought, what if this thing

15:05

flies up? It's like a bad

15:07

Chevy Chase. Could have like an

15:09

SUV type of thing? A Bronco.

15:12

But it was like an old

15:14

Bronco. And so if the top

15:16

goes off, why can't you see?

15:18

Because there's still a windshield. The

15:21

hood. Because the hood, the hood,

15:23

the hood, sorry, sorry, I thought

15:25

you meant the roof and the

15:27

car. Are you catching every, are

15:30

you catching every third word? I'm

15:32

actually about every fourth word. So

15:34

now, but take. What kind of

15:36

music was, what kind of music

15:39

was the band or the band?

15:41

You know, I mean, folk rock.

15:43

Yeah, of course. Of course. What

15:45

else? But now, but you decided

15:48

to to help this band out

15:50

because you wanted to have a

15:52

seat that was less exposed to

15:54

the spotlight. But then while you're

15:57

doing this, you said, well, hang

15:59

on a second. Maybe I actually

16:01

wanted, I want to be up

16:03

front. I want to do stand

16:06

up now where there's nothing between

16:08

you and the audience. Yes. Well,

16:10

the. I moved, my very good

16:12

friends that I grew up with

16:15

that are still very close to

16:17

me, we moved from Denver, we

16:19

were living in Denver at the

16:21

time, and we moved from Denver

16:23

to LA and they moved there

16:26

to pursue TV and film and

16:28

I was newly out of a

16:30

relationship and I was like, well,

16:32

I guess I'll just go with

16:35

you. And so I went and

16:37

then when I got there, I

16:39

saw in the LA Weekly all

16:41

of the different opportunities to do

16:44

stand up, which had been my

16:46

top secret dream. Oh, how about

16:48

that? Even though you were shy.

16:50

Even though I was shy. And

16:53

so I spent the first two

16:55

weeks going to every open mic

16:57

I could possibly go to and

16:59

then I how nerve-wrack I'm getting

17:02

nervous just thinking about it. What

17:04

was that first? Don't worry it

17:06

all works out okay I end

17:08

up on smartless. Yeah. Now wait

17:11

would you would you just like

17:13

climb into a bottom of a

17:15

bottle before you got up to

17:17

like how did you get over

17:20

this initial stage fright and get

17:22

up there and start doing it?

17:24

canceled at the show that I

17:26

was watching and I asked the

17:29

person, which is so I should

17:31

dig this footage up. I have

17:33

footage of myself talking into a.

17:35

a flashlight in a mirror working

17:38

out material in my studio apartment.

17:40

Amazing for those two weeks and

17:42

so I was practicing in the

17:44

mirror in my flashlight. You just

17:47

all you have to do is

17:49

flip it on you could tell

17:51

ghost stories right now. Exactly. And

17:53

so I had all of this

17:56

stuff worked out over those two

17:58

weeks that I had been living

18:00

in LA and then I asked

18:02

the person I was like hey

18:05

can I can I go on

18:07

stage and she was like sure

18:09

and she was like sure and

18:11

so I did. And when I

18:14

say it went well, if you

18:16

showed me the footage now, yeah,

18:18

yeah, yeah, but really, but, but,

18:20

but, but, but, TIG, what was...

18:23

What was the first thing you

18:25

said? Okay, the very first thing

18:27

is a true story. My friend,

18:29

who I rented the Bronco from,

18:32

who was mad at you because

18:34

of the, returned it without a

18:36

hood. Yeah. We moved beyond that.

18:38

We got the car fixed and

18:41

remained friends. So my friend, his

18:43

name was Roe. And, hey, well,

18:45

he passed away, sadly. Rowe called

18:47

me and told me our mutual

18:50

friend Johnny was going to be

18:52

in Denver. Can we say hi

18:54

to Johnny? I don't know where

18:56

Johnny is. Say hi to Johnny.

18:59

Hey Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. So he

19:01

told me that our mutual friend

19:03

was going to be in town

19:05

when I was living in Denver.

19:08

He said Johnny's band is going

19:10

to be there. You should go

19:12

see him. And he hooked me

19:14

up with the road manager for

19:17

me to get tickets to Johnny's

19:19

show. This is some backstory. Yeah,

19:21

I'll say. I'll say. Oh, there's

19:23

more. Okay. So I called Johnny's

19:26

road manager. This is where the

19:28

story kicks in. Okay. So I

19:30

called the road manager and I.

19:32

I said, Johnny's friend, could I

19:35

get tickets to the show? And

19:37

he said yes. And then at

19:39

the end of the conversation, he

19:41

says, now I don't feel comfortable

19:44

calling you this, but I guess

19:46

I'll see you tonight, pig. And

19:48

I said, oh. I said, I

19:50

actually don't feel comfortable calling you,

19:53

or with you calling me pig

19:55

either. I said, my name is

19:57

actually Tig. And he said, yeah,

19:59

that's what I said, pig. And

20:02

I said, no, it's Tig with

20:04

a T. And he said, tit?

20:06

And then I just say, yeah,

20:08

that's right, it's pig tit. I'll

20:11

see you tonight. So anyway, that

20:13

was my first story. That must

20:15

have killed. Now, what this, this,

20:17

your name Tig was given to

20:20

you by your brother when you

20:22

were two years old. Yeah. See,

20:24

guys, I know how to research

20:26

to it. Yeah. Well, it's more

20:29

fun to just ask her how

20:31

she got it, and then she

20:33

tells us that rather, you know

20:35

what I mean? Oh, fuck. Wait,

20:38

fuck you. Okay. He loves me.

20:40

Your real name, I think, is

20:42

one of the best names in

20:44

the history of names. I don't

20:47

even, I've known you for 75,000

20:49

years, I don't even know. Can

20:51

we say it? We can say

20:53

it, it's on Wikipedia. I don't

20:55

even know if you'd pronounce it

20:58

correctly. I know what you think

21:00

it is. Oh, well then, let's

21:02

hear that, let's hear what he

21:04

thinks. Can I guess the correct

21:07

pronunciation. Yes. Matilst. That's correct. Mattil?

21:09

Well then what happens to the

21:11

M-A-T-H-I-L-L-L-E? M-I-L-E-M-S-L-E? M-A-T-I-L-E-E, but it's pronounced

21:13

M-T-E-L-E. So you don't suggest the

21:16

D-E is no, there's no use

21:18

of that. That's French Creel, yes.

21:20

That's French Creel, and I go

21:22

by Susie, and I go by

21:25

Susie, and I go by Susie,

21:27

and I go by Susie, He

21:29

was older than me, he couldn't

21:31

pronounce TIG, or he couldn't pronounce

21:34

Mattil, and somehow he came up

21:36

with TIG, and so... And his

21:38

name is Ruh, Ruh, Ruh, Ruh,

21:40

Ruh, Renno. Renno, Renno, Renno. Renno,

21:43

Renno, Renno. Who was French? Shall

21:45

people speak French? My mother. Is

21:47

Reneau still with us? Yes, he's

21:49

the one that fell in the

21:52

grave and left. Oh, he's the

21:54

one here. Reneau, let's just shout

21:56

out to Reneu, Savara, Reneu. Yeah.

21:58

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to the show. Wait, I want

25:28

to know like back to the

25:31

stand up and that was a

25:33

really funny story. Did you know?

25:35

Because you're welcome. We'll stay out

25:37

of this, okay? Was there, did

25:40

you know, because when I first

25:42

did it, I was terrible. This

25:44

is where we take a break,

25:47

sorry. You did stand up? Hang

25:49

on, we always do this, we

25:51

always do this, stand where we

25:53

take a break. Sean, and why

25:56

don't you just tell, our audience

25:58

knows, but tell Tig what your

26:00

first joke was. Let's go ahead.

26:02

Well, I think. It's not pigted,

26:05

is it? Sean was it? My

26:07

first joke was it? My first

26:09

joke was, well, I'll do two

26:11

because one's not even, one was

26:14

they say ballet is one of

26:16

the most difficult things you could

26:18

do, so just don't do it.

26:20

That was the first one. And

26:23

then the second one was, wait,

26:25

I'm sorry, that was the joke.

26:27

There was a joke. Yeah. And

26:30

then the second one was, what was

26:32

the second part of your speech? Appropriate

26:34

Joe, appropriate response. And then the second

26:36

one was really bad. It was, there's

26:39

not even a joke. Wait a second.

26:41

It got worse. Go ahead with the

26:43

second one, Sean. You've got the, now

26:45

you've got the audience. Let him go.

26:47

And then what? He had the audience

26:49

with that first one. And you finished

26:51

it. I didn't know how to write

26:54

a joke. My clothes are something like,

26:56

hey, isn't it funny when you see

26:58

people outside in public call their pet

27:00

for the first time? Like, you know,

27:02

hey spot, hey, whatever. But like, what

27:04

if it's like, hey mustard, come here,

27:06

hey, catch up. And it was, there's

27:09

not even a joke, it's just bad.

27:11

And at night, at 22 years old,

27:13

I'm like, this is gonna kill. And

27:15

it was hair? I mean. I don't

27:17

even know what the joke is. It's

27:19

honestly, it's mystifying that somebody would just

27:21

have the not just have the balls

27:24

to get up and do it. We

27:26

know how scary that is. I'm not

27:28

a stand up neither. Yeah, but then

27:30

be that bad. But to go but

27:32

to go up and think. Think right

27:34

that you could just talk would be

27:36

an appropriate thing to say in front

27:39

of a group of people. Fuck as

27:41

a comedy just to say out loud

27:43

as a thought and to relay that

27:45

in front of someone who what you

27:47

take you had the number one selling

27:49

comedy album in the world in 2013.

27:51

Yeah. Yeah. Number one number in the

27:54

world. Sean writing my material. you can

27:56

make shuns, either of shuns, and I'm

27:58

going to use the term joke loosely,

28:00

would you ever be able to make

28:02

that work on stage? Do you think

28:04

that that's... Change the name of the

28:06

of the animal from mustard, a ketchup

28:09

to something that would be a little

28:11

bit funnier to hear, yelled across a

28:13

part. Or just set the set, or

28:15

just construct a joke better, which was

28:17

my question, which was I was getting

28:19

at, which was like... When you got

28:21

up and, because you're a very great

28:24

storyteller, a lot of your comedy comes

28:26

from things that have happened to you

28:28

in life. Thank you. Did you, you're

28:30

welcome in hell. Honest of fucking God,

28:32

did you? How did you learn how

28:34

to craft? like the rhythm of a joke or

28:36

a story because I got up the point of

28:39

me telling you how bad I was I got

28:41

up and thought I could just talk and were

28:43

you that way when you first started or did

28:45

you know how to write? I thought and

28:47

I realized I must be like everybody else

28:49

that you go watch stand up and you

28:52

think oh my god I can do this

28:54

everybody that does stand up thinks oh my

28:56

god this is and you know there's I

28:58

get calls from people that are like Oh,

29:01

my friend at work is so funny. He's

29:03

moving to LA. Can you meet with him?

29:05

It's like, yeah, everybody in the office is

29:07

hilarious. Everybody watching stand-up thinks they can do

29:10

it. And it just was, you know, I

29:12

took the leap like everybody else, and I

29:14

think my first one did go

29:16

well. And then I signed up

29:19

for a competition the second time

29:21

I did stand up and I

29:23

bombed so hard. And the only

29:26

thing I heard in the audience

29:28

aside from silence was my friend

29:30

Derek choking to death laughing at

29:33

me and then I ran off

29:35

stage and we drove back from

29:37

Orange County back to LA. But

29:40

it's just been a process of,

29:42

you know, of... I mean, I thought

29:44

I could do it. I have been

29:46

doing it and, you know, I started

29:49

out doing kind of dead pan

29:51

one liners and then they kind

29:53

of got longer and I will

29:55

say, Will, I'm talking. No, I

29:57

was going to tell you something.

29:59

I know. We always interrupt. This

30:01

is our hallmark of our show

30:04

is interrupting our show. So then,

30:06

once I was finally, no, go

30:08

ahead, Will. Well, I just wanted

30:10

to say what I was kind

30:12

of agreeing. I wanted to say

30:15

that it's not surprising and kind

30:17

of going off what Sean said,

30:19

it's not surprising because you have

30:21

one of those things, you are

30:23

the type of person, and I

30:25

don't know you that well, but

30:28

we've known each other over the

30:30

years a little bit and gotten

30:32

to know each other a little

30:34

bit more. You are a very

30:36

funny person, and it's not true

30:38

for all stand-ups, and you're not

30:41

just a stand-up, but you are

30:43

a naturally funny person. You don't

30:45

have a choice in it. Thank

30:47

you. Sorry Sean gets that one.

30:49

And you are a very naturally,

30:52

so you know I think that

30:54

it does come to, I'm not

30:56

surprised that the first time you

30:58

went up that you were able

31:00

to sort of connect with the

31:02

audience because you're a very naturally

31:05

funny person. I will say that.

31:07

That's what I wanted to say.

31:09

Well I appreciate that. And certainly

31:11

after I thought I had gotten

31:13

my bearings in stand-up, I thought

31:16

well I've got this and I

31:18

booked my first gig on the

31:20

road and it was like in

31:22

this comedy club in a strip

31:24

mall and I had only done

31:26

shows in Los Angeles and like

31:29

kind of hip rooms and whatever

31:31

and then now I'm like in

31:33

the middle of nowhere strip mall

31:35

and I was staying with friends

31:37

and they let me use their

31:40

car but the venue. actually will

31:42

put you up at a condo

31:44

and they have a car for

31:46

comedians. And I was like, oh,

31:48

I don't need the car, but

31:50

thanks. And this club was called

31:53

Wit's End in Denver. Oh, that's

31:55

good. And I bombed, this is

31:57

my first road gig, I bombed

31:59

the entire weekend. And then I

32:01

hear before the second. on Friday

32:04

or Saturday, I hear the owner

32:06

saying, where is our emergency fill-in

32:08

comedian? And I was thinking, oh

32:10

no, what happened to Nancy? Because

32:12

I was thinking, something must have

32:14

happened. I was mortified. I thought

32:17

she died. And he was like,

32:19

has anyone heard from the emergency

32:21

fill-in comedian? And I'm like, what

32:23

the hell. And then he walks

32:25

up to me and gives me

32:28

my check and fires me. And

32:30

it was so mortifying. Again, my

32:32

first gig on the road, it's

32:34

the holiday season. I walk out

32:36

the front door and I'm like,

32:38

oh no, I forgot my friends

32:41

were coming that night. So my

32:43

friends are in line to get

32:45

into the show and they're like,

32:47

whoa, we're so excited. And I

32:49

was like, I said, oh, I

32:52

was just fired. My comedy was

32:54

so bad it cost an emergency.

32:56

And so they're bringing in a

32:58

fill-in comedian. Like they couldn't even

33:00

stomach me for the rest, like

33:02

that last night. So they said,

33:05

let's all go meet at the

33:07

Mercury Cafe. I'm like, okay, I

33:09

go to get my friend's car

33:11

and I drive off. Hit an

33:13

ice patch. No. Spin out of

33:16

control like in a cartoon. I'm

33:18

still in the parking lot of

33:20

witsons. Oh my God. Okay. And

33:22

then the car stops and I'm

33:24

of course pointed in the wrong

33:26

direction. I'm mortified. I'm like, I

33:29

thought for sure was going to

33:31

be wrapped around a pole. And

33:33

then I start laughing when I

33:35

realize I lived through it because

33:37

I immediately thought, what if I

33:40

had used their car? Their car

33:42

was a station wagon from the

33:44

70s that had clowns painted on

33:46

it that said, follow me to

33:48

Whits End Comedy Club. And if

33:50

I had died in that. moment

33:53

wrapped around a light post. After

33:55

being fired. So anyway it's been

33:57

a long road but I'm almost

33:59

30 years in. Yeah how did

34:01

you stick with it with that

34:04

kind of a start? Why didn't

34:06

you say yeah fuck this I'm

34:08

gonna start a different career? You

34:10

know I feel like stand-up is

34:12

like if you're in an abusive

34:14

relationship and you keep thinking it

34:17

was good once. I can get

34:19

that feeling back, you know, because

34:21

the first time I did stand

34:23

up, it was, I do think

34:25

it went well enough. And then

34:28

the second time, I did not

34:30

win the $100 in the competition

34:32

I signed up for. Did you

34:34

ever think about sending like the

34:36

charts from your number one comedy

34:38

and sending it to the dude

34:41

in Denver? Well, he also died.

34:43

Oh my God, block widow. Wow.

34:45

I know. Out of the path

34:47

of the dig. Yeah. Yeah. What?

34:49

Well, how about, do you think

34:52

that your talent, your skill, your

34:54

angle on all of this has

34:56

progressively been arcing up? Like, does

34:58

it continue to get better and

35:00

better and better and better and

35:02

better and better and better? my

35:05

attitude? No, no, doing stand-up in

35:07

your experience with it and like...

35:09

My question is your attitude, yeah.

35:11

Do you find that you're getting...

35:13

Is stand-up a thing that can

35:16

be... I find that I'm getting

35:18

hopefully a little bit better each...

35:20

year I continue on doing it

35:22

over the hell I'm doing. Oh

35:24

really? I think, I hope, I'm

35:26

not asking, let's be clear, yeah

35:29

it's golf. Is that something that

35:31

you're still enjoying, are you still

35:33

ascendant in your life? Well you

35:35

know I finished my last tour

35:37

and put out my stand-up special

35:40

and my last tour really kind

35:42

of ran me into the ground

35:44

and and I'm working in Toronto

35:46

right now yeah so this painting

35:48

behind me is not mine that's

35:50

not you know I was going

35:53

to ask you about that listener

35:55

it's just a shot of basic

35:57

basically Jesus is home it's up

35:59

there in the clouds somewhere that's

36:01

right go ahead it's a nice

36:04

hotel painting but I I've been

36:06

working on new material when I

36:08

have nights off here and that's

36:10

felt good, but I've had this

36:12

building need and interest in doing

36:14

a one-person show. And so... But

36:17

isn't that what you do? No,

36:19

I want it to be a

36:21

little more of a theme and...

36:23

Like a two-act, three-act structure. Yeah,

36:25

sure. But like a more like,

36:28

like a more like, I love

36:30

you, you're perfect, now change. Like

36:32

one of those ones that used

36:34

to pass out. Do a little

36:36

singing, dancing. Yeah. Well, my big

36:38

fact, requeting was a, was a

36:41

one woman show that turned into

36:43

a movie because it was her

36:45

story. So you mean something like

36:47

that? Like a spalding gray type

36:49

of thing? Something. Something like that.

36:52

Are we gonna get talk radio?

36:54

Are we gonna keep going with?

36:56

Yeah, keep guessing. More examples. So

36:58

I'll have a copy of sense

37:00

of you today. So then it

37:02

is, so then there's a theme

37:05

to it and it's a little

37:07

bit more scripted or fully scripted.

37:09

Well I mean my stand-up is

37:11

scripted, but I do interact with

37:13

the audience, right? If an idea

37:16

comes to me while I'm doing

37:18

a show. I'll just go with

37:20

that and just kind of explore

37:22

it because I don't sit down

37:24

and write my comedy. I write

37:26

on stage in front of a

37:29

live audience, so I do it

37:31

fully, you know, without a net

37:33

type writing. Yeah, yeah. Do you

37:35

do, I know you're up there

37:37

in Toronto working, do you do,

37:40

when you have free nights or

37:42

whatever, do you still go and

37:44

perform out like at clubs in

37:46

Toronto? Are you doing that all

37:48

the time? There's a comedy club,

37:50

yeah, out here in Toronto, comedy

37:53

bar. And I've been doing shows

37:55

like, I don't know, two or

37:57

three nights a week. Wow. You

37:59

got a comedy bar car? They

38:01

send you a five? It's comedy

38:04

bar. It's comedy bar. It's a

38:06

zamboni. It's a zamboni. Comedy bar?

38:08

Just for a callback. Yeah. Good

38:10

luck with that. Oh boy. Talk

38:12

a little bit about that. Go

38:14

ahead. Stage is yours. We did.

38:17

We made this decision last minute

38:19

to hire him. We couldn't get

38:21

anyone else in the role. That

38:23

was the emergency. Emergency. Emergency fill-in

38:25

actor. That was Nancy. Yeah. That

38:28

was super fun. I laughed so

38:30

hard those two days. It was

38:32

really fun. Is this a project

38:34

we should plug? Yes, it's called

38:36

Am I OK, starring Dakota Johnson.

38:38

Am I OK? A couple years

38:41

ago, right? Or something like that.

38:43

It came out this year. So

38:45

thanks for being on top of

38:47

that, promoting my hard work. You've

38:49

been such a good friend. So

38:52

what kind of part did John?

38:54

Don't forget. He does, or you

38:56

don't forget, he doesn't ask any

38:58

questions. He has no idea and

39:00

he's not curious about your life.

39:02

You want to change the subject

39:05

from your casting? No, he has

39:07

more bits that he used to

39:09

do. No, no. No, it blows

39:11

my mind is like when you,

39:13

when people get up there and

39:16

they can just, how can you

39:18

just talk? Like how do you

39:20

have so much material that you

39:22

don't, because I'm used to memorizing

39:24

a script, right? And so, but

39:26

there's nothing, and I know you've

39:29

written it all, but just to

39:31

like, if somebody says a topic,

39:33

you can, you can have the

39:35

perfectly constructed joke about that joke

39:37

about that thing. And you have

39:40

it all in your, at the

39:42

bank of your head. But it's

39:44

not all perfectly constructed, it's that

39:46

I just try to leave my

39:48

mind open outside of what I've

39:50

already written or thought of. And

39:53

then if something crosses my mind

39:55

or somebody in the audience says

39:57

something, I allow myself to go

39:59

with that. Whatever that is, yeah.

40:01

I got it. And explore and

40:04

find what's funny about that. And

40:06

now that you've had all of

40:08

this tremendous success over the years,

40:10

do people go... come up to

40:12

you all the time and say,

40:14

hey, I'm such a fan, can

40:17

you just do, can you say

40:19

that funny thing or like, do

40:21

they try to prompt you to

40:23

perform for them? I would say

40:25

the most common thing I get

40:28

is that no, no, people don't

40:30

do that, but I did this

40:32

like 15 minute bit about. running

40:34

into the pop star Taylor Dane.

40:36

I did this story years ago

40:38

and I did it on this

40:41

American life. I ran into her

40:43

so many times and the first

40:45

time I ran into her I

40:47

genuinely said excuse me I'm sorry

40:49

to bother you I just have

40:52

to tell you I love your

40:54

voice and she was rude to

40:56

me and she said yeah I

40:58

don't do that anymore and then

41:00

turned and kept talking to somebody

41:02

and then I kept running into

41:05

her and every time I saw

41:07

her I was like, oh my

41:09

god, I'm going to go up

41:11

and say the exact same thing

41:13

I said to her. Just for

41:16

my sister, Taylor Dan was a

41:18

big 80s pop star like. Just

41:20

in case people don't know. Was

41:22

your sister born after the 80s?

41:24

The fuck you do? No, that

41:26

was mine too. By the way.

41:29

Was it really? You didn't know

41:31

who Taylor Dan? Tell it to

41:33

my heart. Love will lead me

41:35

back? Nope. Anyway, so you see

41:37

her a bunch of times, you

41:40

keep you in the same. So

41:42

I see her out to dinner,

41:44

I see her at cafes, I

41:46

see her everywhere, and I just

41:48

walk up and I interrupted her

41:50

every time and would say, hi,

41:53

excuse me. I'm sorry to bother

41:55

you. I just have to tell

41:57

you, I love your voice. I

41:59

love your voice. Yeah. But anyway,

42:01

is she alive? Is she alive?

42:04

No, she's alive. And then we

42:06

actually became friendly because of this,

42:08

because word got out that, you

42:10

know, I was doing this story

42:12

and then whatever. And I did

42:14

this on this American life. They

42:17

did the story and then invited

42:19

Taylor Dane to that performance. And

42:21

so I met her there. No

42:23

way. But anyway, people come up

42:25

to me all the time and

42:28

say, excuse me, I'm sorry to

42:30

bother you, but I just have

42:32

to tell you, I love your

42:34

voice. Wait, Tig, that's so good.

42:36

I love that. Wait, Tig, that's

42:38

so good. I love that you

42:41

did that. First of all, I

42:43

love your commitment to shit like

42:45

that. You've told me, I'm teen

42:47

stories of things that you do.

42:49

Party bits. Actually, you know what

42:52

a bit that I did on

42:54

on radio, morning radio, when I

42:56

first started doing stand up, I'd

42:58

have to go at six in

43:00

the morning to, you know, some,

43:02

like Fargo or something to do

43:05

to promote my show. And I

43:07

would always ask the radio host

43:09

to please. Talk like as soon

43:11

as I come on the show

43:13

please talk about how gorgeous I

43:15

am go on and on like

43:18

like Howard Stern and certain people

43:20

just like you are beautiful I

43:22

mean look at you and yeah

43:24

Because I thought, oh, maybe they'll

43:26

get people to the show, but

43:29

also it really made me laugh

43:31

to think of people showing up

43:33

to see. This is years ago,

43:35

and just seeing a disheveled monotone

43:37

lesbian on stage, you know, talking

43:39

about my cats. You're like, I

43:42

didn't know I was going to

43:44

an indigo girl's concert. Hey, wait

43:46

a second. But talk about, but

43:48

talk about the party bits, the

43:50

fucking, God, I'm so jealous. I

43:53

feel like you really liked this

43:55

one. But my friend Henry. Phillips

43:57

who is one of the funniest

43:59

comedians please look him up and

44:01

watch everything he does he's so

44:03

hi Henry and he has a

44:06

couple of movies out punching Henry

44:08

punching the clown I'm in one

44:10

of the movies but anyway He

44:12

and I do so many bits

44:14

together. He's so good. And I

44:17

used to live in Venice in

44:19

California and he was like, hey,

44:21

he's like, I'm at a party

44:23

near your house. He was like,

44:25

I don't know any of these

44:27

people. He's like, you gotta come

44:30

do some bits with me. And

44:32

I was like, yeah, sure, I'll

44:34

head over. And so I go

44:36

meet him. And we're just loose

44:38

at this party doing all these

44:41

different bits that are truly for

44:43

our own amusement, which is what.

44:45

I do things for. And if

44:47

people catch on or they enjoy

44:49

it too, that's fine. But I

44:51

love, I love looking foolish. So

44:54

I go in, I don't know

44:56

anybody at this party except Henry.

44:58

I go into the kitchen, there's

45:00

like five people standing around, you

45:02

know, leaning against the kitchen counter,

45:05

having a drink, chatting. And it's

45:07

a Saturday night, maybe 930. And

45:09

I lean in and I just

45:11

tap the wall and I go,

45:13

hey guys, I'm going to be

45:15

going to bed in like 10

45:18

minutes. I have no idea if

45:20

the owner of the house is

45:22

in there. I have no idea

45:24

if the host is in the

45:26

kitchen. I don't know who those

45:29

people are. And then I go

45:31

find Henry and I'm dying laughing

45:33

and I was like, oh my

45:35

God, I just told five people

45:37

in the kitchen. I was going

45:39

to bed in 10 minutes. And

45:42

he's like, oh my God, he

45:44

said, there's like 200 people in

45:46

the backyard. You have to go

45:48

out on the deck and announce

45:50

that. So I was like, no

45:53

problem. And this is years ago

45:55

before I was like on TV

45:57

regularly and whatever. And I was

45:59

like, oh my. Hey, everybody, just

46:01

so you know, I'm gonna be going

46:04

to be going to bed in

46:06

like 10 minutes. And to me,

46:08

I'm like, you know, it's, I am,

46:10

I, for all you know, I

46:12

could be going home and going

46:14

to bed in 10 minutes. That

46:16

doesn't mean I own the house.

46:18

They're bad, not yours. Take, there's

46:21

something about that I've just always

46:23

loved. I think it's the funny.

46:26

It's so funny. It reminds me,

46:28

I used to always want to

46:30

do this, but I never had

46:33

the guts. I wanted to drive

46:35

around like Beverly Hills, Bel Air,

46:37

like in a fancy car, and

46:40

pull up to gardeners as they're

46:42

about to start on these big

46:44

fucking estates, and just go, roll

46:47

my window down and go, I

46:49

just spoke to the missus, she said

46:51

you guys can take the day off,

46:54

fully paid. Yeah, you got a long

46:56

night, you guys don't. I turned that

46:58

shit on and get out of here.

47:00

I remember one time you texted me

47:03

to, you said, I'm about to drive

47:05

by your house. I want you to

47:07

stand outside and look on your phone,

47:09

but don't look at me. Yeah. As I

47:11

drive by. And so I was like, okay,

47:14

I'll do it. And I stood by and

47:16

I couldn't look up and you drove

47:18

by and you said, hey Sean, hey

47:20

Sean, and I didn't look up. That

47:22

was the bet. I had a beat

47:25

buried in my phone. I didn't quite

47:27

understand it, but it made me laugh.

47:29

You don't understand it? It was like

47:31

performance art. Yeah. God, that is so

47:34

good. You know, Ted, you'd like this.

47:36

My buddy, Pete Serafinich and all these

47:38

English guys, they did this big one.

47:40

They'd go to a restaurant in London,

47:43

and they all learned beforehand. They got

47:45

together, they conspired, and they learned.

47:47

They sang it was somebody's birthday. So

47:49

they sang happy birthday and then everybody

47:51

at the table like eight of them

47:53

launched into a second verse that they

47:55

had written. So they start singing a

47:57

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47:59

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48:17

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48:20

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48:22

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48:24

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48:26

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48:29

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48:31

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48:33

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48:36

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48:38

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52:33

right back to the show Take

52:35

what about the kids you now

52:37

have with your wife Stephanie you

52:39

have two little the cutest boys

52:41

ever and yes Max and Finn

52:44

they're doing well. They are seven

52:46

eight they are eight they are

52:48

eight they will be eight and

52:50

a half this month and huge

52:52

into golf these days truly They

52:55

are so into golf. They're so

52:57

into, they're into baseball, basketball, their

52:59

own fun team. And, but yes,

53:01

Sean, they're, they're, they have a

53:03

sense of humor. My son, Max,

53:05

I think that, well, I tell

53:08

everyone he has, he's bone dry

53:10

and we don't know where he

53:12

got that. Sure. Sure. define your

53:14

comedic sensibility, like was it like

53:16

Stephen Wright or somebody like that?

53:19

I was really into Stephen Wright.

53:21

I also really loved Paula Poundstone.

53:23

I thought she was so great

53:25

at writing jokes, telling stories, and

53:27

also interacting with the audience. I

53:30

felt like she could do everything

53:32

and still feel that way. But

53:34

yeah, my kids, they're like little,

53:36

a friend of ours described them

53:38

as like little Midwestern uncles. because

53:41

they're just, they have like a

53:43

certain maturity about them. and my

53:45

son Max, one of my favorite

53:47

things, that he said when he

53:49

was four. Stephanie and I were

53:51

sitting on the couch with Max,

53:54

Finn, her dad and our three

53:56

cats, and Max got up when

53:58

he was four, just got off

54:00

the couch and he said, I'm

54:02

getting the hell out of here,

54:05

all these damn cats. Walked out

54:07

of the room. I was like,

54:09

they're like your style, kid. No

54:11

way. That was so funny. Yeah,

54:13

they're the best. Never dogs for

54:16

you. No, I've had dogs. I've

54:18

had a couple of dogs in

54:20

my life, but we call our

54:22

house kitty city. Yeah. And do

54:24

you like that the cats just

54:27

sort of they take care of

54:29

themselves? They don't bother you, you

54:31

don't bother them? Or is like

54:33

a dog that in a person.

54:35

Yeah, a dog needs shit. Right?

54:38

Yeah. And she's really funny too.

54:40

She's so funny. She's so funny.

54:42

And she's like about to have

54:44

a stroke. They're so excited to

54:46

see you. Zoomis. Yeah. Now Stephanie,

54:48

you really make Stephanie laugh too,

54:51

which is great. You guys laugh

54:53

a lot. I love Stephanie. Stephanie

54:55

really makes me laugh a lot.

54:57

Yeah. And she's really funny too.

54:59

She's so funny. And she's in

55:02

love with Will. I'm in love

55:04

with Jason, and we don't know

55:06

where Sean fits into this equation.

55:08

Sean was with the kitties. I

55:10

love Stephanie. I love Stephanie. Was

55:13

there a meat cute there? You

55:15

want to share with us? Yeah.

55:17

We met on the movie, Lake

55:19

Bell's movie, called In a World.

55:21

The Great Lake Bell. Yeah. And

55:24

I was deathly ill. I didn't

55:26

know. I had three deadly diseases

55:28

at one time. And then I

55:30

collapsed went away. and dealt with...

55:32

Wait, was this to cancer? And

55:35

it was cancer, pneumonia, and this

55:37

intestinal disease called c-diff. I had

55:39

it all three at once. Right.

55:41

So I go away and I

55:43

was in a relationship. Stephanie had

55:45

never dated a woman. We really

55:48

enjoyed each... other on set, but

55:50

I wasn't thinking I was into

55:52

her romantically and she wasn't thinking

55:54

that about me. So I collapse,

55:56

I go away, six months later

55:59

I resurface in the world and

56:01

the movies going to Sundance and

56:03

we exchanged numbers and I told

56:05

her, I said, you know, I'm

56:07

not the biggest texter and I

56:10

told her about this girl that

56:12

texted me incessantly after coffee and

56:14

that she texted that she She

56:16

said sweet dreams, the girl I

56:18

had gone out with. And not

56:21

that I thought Stephanie was into

56:23

me, but I was just giving

56:25

her the example that I'm not

56:27

great at this. And that night,

56:29

Stephanie texted me sweet dreams. And

56:31

I was like, oh, that is

56:34

hilarious. And then we start texting

56:36

and it's kind of building and

56:38

I'm thinking, oh, I'm really into

56:40

her. And she had invited me,

56:42

I was writing my book at

56:45

the time, she invited me to

56:47

come meet her and her friends

56:49

at LaPoubel in Los Angeles. And

56:51

I thought, oh my God, it's

56:53

11 o'clock. I haven't showered. I'm

56:56

wearing this big wool Canadian wool

56:58

sweater with an eagle on my

57:00

back. I can't go meet her.

57:02

And then I thought, oh, well,

57:04

she's not even into me. So

57:07

who cares what I look like?

57:09

And it happened to be Valentine's

57:11

Day. And so she's sitting at

57:13

this table with friends. I walk

57:15

into the bar, she is wearing

57:18

a dark blue Canadian wool sweater

57:20

with an eagle on her back.

57:22

No way. This is insane. I

57:24

said, let's switch sweaters. So we

57:26

switch sweaters and her friend says,

57:28

get together so I can take

57:31

a picture of you. We go

57:33

to hug each other and we

57:35

start making out. immediately when we

57:37

touch each other and then so

57:39

we end up making out that

57:42

night, and then she writes me

57:44

a five million page email the

57:46

next day, I get it, that's

57:48

telling me how much she loves

57:50

hanging out with me, how funny

57:53

she thinks I am, she's not

57:55

gay, but that she wants to

57:57

be friend, like goes, I can't

57:59

tell you how long this email

58:01

was. I'm reading this going, ah,

58:04

because I realize I do like

58:06

her, you know, but I thought,

58:08

I can't chase her because she's

58:10

not into it. So I wrote

58:12

back. Okay, Dyke. And that's the

58:14

only thing I wrote. And then

58:17

she said when she got that

58:19

response, she just thought, okay, I

58:21

like this person. And so now.

58:23

Yeah, that's great. And then so

58:25

I mean, you know, you know,

58:28

however you're comfortable relaying this, if

58:30

there's any further in the story

58:32

you're willing to go, how does

58:34

that, do you guys just start

58:36

seeing each other for what? Because

58:39

you want to respond. her sexuality,

58:41

but you want to continue seeing

58:43

her, but you also don't want

58:45

to like, you know, work on

58:47

flipping her or like, how does

58:50

that go? Well, what happens? Well,

58:52

so, um, it's a good question.

58:54

I just don't like, how do

58:56

you protect your own heart? How

58:58

do you protect your own heart?

59:01

And like, you know, so go

59:03

to work on flipping her. I

59:05

didn't know okay Dyke made the

59:07

impression that it did. I just

59:09

thought I need to be light-hearted,

59:11

let this go, and just see

59:14

her as a friend down the

59:16

road. But I knew it was

59:18

going to take me a beat.

59:20

So I told her, I said,

59:22

I get it, you know, like

59:25

when we talked again, I said,

59:27

I just need some space and

59:29

then I'll be able to see

59:31

you as a friend and everything's

59:33

fine. And so I went to

59:36

Montreal and was doing shows there.

59:38

And she reached out to me.

59:40

like a few weeks later and

59:42

she said I'd like to see

59:44

you when you get home and

59:47

I said to my friend who

59:49

was there with me and I

59:51

was like why does she want

59:53

what and he was like because

59:55

she likes you and I was

59:58

like no no I know but

1:00:00

she told me she doesn't want

1:00:02

he was like what do you

1:00:04

think she's like oh I want

1:00:06

to see you again so I

1:00:08

can tell you for sure I

1:00:11

don't like you and I was

1:00:13

like I don't know maybe and

1:00:15

then she came over friends that

1:00:17

were females that weren't gay Right.

1:00:19

You had multiple friends that were

1:00:22

females that weren't gay. So you

1:00:24

were thinking, you know, maybe this

1:00:26

is just another one of those

1:00:28

perhaps. Yeah, I just didn't know

1:00:30

what to think, but I got

1:00:33

back to LA and she came

1:00:35

over and she's just a very

1:00:37

confident comfortable person and she's very

1:00:39

straightforward. And and it's what I

1:00:41

realized I'm so into about her.

1:00:44

And so she sat down on

1:00:46

my couch and she just. turned

1:00:48

to me and said I realized

1:00:50

that I want to be with

1:00:52

you and I was like oh

1:00:54

what do you mean and she

1:00:57

said like I want to be

1:00:59

with you I don't want to

1:01:01

I'm not saying I want to

1:01:03

see how it goes or check

1:01:05

things out I want to be

1:01:08

with you and I was like

1:01:10

what I was so I was

1:01:12

so you saw the eagle jacket

1:01:14

on or I did You still

1:01:16

had a shout. You still had

1:01:19

a shout. We took our eagle

1:01:21

jackets off and we got down

1:01:23

to it. And it was just

1:01:25

pure. It wasn't it wasn't about

1:01:27

declaring as a label or anything.

1:01:30

It was just like, all I

1:01:32

know is I just really want

1:01:34

to be with you. Whatever that

1:01:36

is, it is. Yeah. Yeah, that's

1:01:38

great. Yeah. And we did. We

1:01:41

make each other laugh a lot.

1:01:43

And very cool. Larga. Largo at

1:01:45

Largo, and so we had such

1:01:47

a good time and we laughed

1:01:49

really hard and then the next

1:01:51

day literally the next day next

1:01:54

morning I go yeah the next

1:01:56

morning I go to La Pan

1:01:58

this restaurant on Larchmont And you walk

1:02:00

in and we both have the exact

1:02:02

same outfit on that we had that

1:02:05

we were on stage in. No, well.

1:02:07

Yeah, we both slept in those clothes

1:02:09

and then woke up thinking, well, it's

1:02:11

early. It's I just want I just

1:02:13

want an egg. I want a couple

1:02:15

eggs and I'm going to go home

1:02:17

and shower and change across the city.

1:02:19

No one from the show is going

1:02:21

to be there. Yeah. Do you remember

1:02:23

that? Except we live. close to

1:02:26

each other and dress alike. Yeah,

1:02:28

exactly. Oh, and you know what

1:02:31

I have to say? Also, Stephanie

1:02:33

directed my latest stand-up special. Oh,

1:02:35

no way. And was nominated for

1:02:38

NEMI, and so was the editor,

1:02:40

and so was everyone else, except

1:02:43

me. I was the problem. Oh, really?

1:02:45

Oh, no. Yeah. Now, wait, what is

1:02:47

the name of that one? Is that

1:02:49

one hello again? That is hello

1:02:51

again. Yeah. Very, very, very

1:02:53

nice. So wait, are you

1:02:55

in Toronto doing stand-up or movie?

1:02:57

Stand up. Show. I'm doing a show.

1:02:59

I'm doing a show. I pay time because

1:03:02

I know what she's doing because

1:03:04

I'm doing Star Trek with

1:03:06

Holly Hunter and Paul Giamati.

1:03:08

Oh, great. Wow, do they have

1:03:10

to wear the alien makeup? Paul,

1:03:13

yes, Holly, no. Are they lesbians

1:03:15

in space too? I would

1:03:17

ask just for just for

1:03:19

full for fairness. It's called

1:03:21

Star Fleet Academy, lesbians

1:03:23

in space. That's the new

1:03:25

series. We don't know, I don't

1:03:28

know Holly, but we love Paul

1:03:30

Giamati, he's just a gem. He's

1:03:32

a gem, gem, yeah. Yeah, and

1:03:34

Holly's great too. I'm sure.

1:03:36

Obviously, a real talent and

1:03:38

then I'm thrown in the

1:03:40

mix. Don't you tear? Don't you

1:03:42

tell you? Don't you say that, but I

1:03:44

do, I do have, I mean,

1:03:47

close to lesbians. Well, it's, it's

1:03:49

across the spectrum, but my podcast,

1:03:51

Handsome, is right here on planet

1:03:53

Earth. It's like my fourth podcast.

1:03:56

I don't know if you know, I've

1:03:58

been podcasting for a long. time you

1:04:00

guys. And how are you loving

1:04:02

it? Are you loving it? You

1:04:04

still loving it? I really enjoy

1:04:06

podcasting. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I

1:04:08

was so baffled by it in

1:04:10

the early day. I think I

1:04:12

started in like, I don't know,

1:04:14

2006 or something. I have no

1:04:16

idea. But I do enjoy it.

1:04:19

It's such a different way to

1:04:21

be comedic and tell stories. Yeah,

1:04:23

and you can do it inside

1:04:25

the comfort of an air-conditioned room.

1:04:27

In the comfort of an air-conditioned

1:04:29

or heated, furnished apartment in Toronto.

1:04:31

Up there with the Jesus painting

1:04:33

behind you. Do you want, do

1:04:35

you want, I can, I'll text

1:04:37

you real quick, guarantee she's available,

1:04:39

do you want to have lunch

1:04:41

with my mom today? I would

1:04:43

love to. She's close. She's a

1:04:45

character. She's a lot of fun.

1:04:47

She'll keep you on your toes.

1:04:49

Okay, I'm gonna hook it up.

1:04:51

Take hurry home and get back

1:04:53

to our Sunday rhythm. Yeah, we

1:04:55

miss you. We miss you. I

1:04:57

have missed you. We would love

1:04:59

to see you. When does this

1:05:01

come out? Today, it's on right

1:05:03

now. I'm going to tell all

1:05:05

my dead parents. But hurry home

1:05:07

so we can hang out again.

1:05:09

There's a better chance of them

1:05:11

listening than Sean's dad listening. Put

1:05:14

it down. Wait, how can I

1:05:16

naturally mention, because I wanted to

1:05:18

naturally mention something and I didn't

1:05:20

naturally mention it. You're doing it.

1:05:22

I have a documentary that just

1:05:24

got accepted to Sundance. You're ready

1:05:26

for this? You're ready for this?

1:05:28

And weren't you working on a

1:05:30

documentary for a while? I was

1:05:32

going to get to that, Will.

1:05:34

You know, I've got a bunch

1:05:36

of questions here. Jason, you didn't

1:05:38

even know about it. Go ahead.

1:05:40

Thank you for asking Will. Yes,

1:05:42

of course. I have been working

1:05:44

on a documentary. And it is,

1:05:46

I had called, they're incredible filmmakers.

1:05:48

They did the Pamela documentary. documentary

1:05:50

Serena Williams all this and but

1:05:52

I was like I can't sell

1:05:54

you on this person you have

1:05:56

to do a deep dive not

1:05:58

even that deep on Andrea Gibson

1:06:00

and and they called me three

1:06:02

days later and they were like

1:06:04

we're in and they got on

1:06:07

a plane flew to Boulder Colorado

1:06:09

and started filming. When does it

1:06:11

come out? Well it's gonna be

1:06:13

it's Sundance. That's January right? But

1:06:15

Andrea is a brilliant poet just

1:06:17

a brilliant poet mind-bellowing. Yeah what's

1:06:19

it called? Yeah what's the documentary?

1:06:21

I believe right now it's come

1:06:23

see me in the good light.

1:06:25

You keep shifting, the title is

1:06:27

kind of shifting a little bit

1:06:29

as we get closer to finish.

1:06:31

Well, I mean, that's the last

1:06:33

I've heard is that's the working

1:06:35

title is, come see me in

1:06:37

the good light. But it is,

1:06:39

and it's a phenomenal documentary about

1:06:41

a phenomenal. Sorry, I mentioned Andrea's

1:06:43

full name again for the, Andrea

1:06:45

Gibson. Andrea Gibson. Written eight books.

1:06:47

Amazing. Yeah, does there an audio

1:06:49

version in the Sir Pictures? Now

1:06:51

that's, are you going to go

1:06:53

to Sundance? Okay, good. I'm going

1:06:55

to go to Sundance and yeah,

1:06:57

yeah, going to Sundance. Yeah, well,

1:06:59

that's great. Good luck with it.

1:07:02

Congratulations on that. Finish strong there

1:07:04

in Toronto and get your ass

1:07:06

back home here. Send our love

1:07:08

to Stephanie, who we also miss.

1:07:10

And all of my love to

1:07:12

your families. And I'll see you

1:07:14

at Sunday Fun Day anytime I'm

1:07:16

home. Very soon. Wonderful. Very soon.

1:07:18

All right. Love you. Thank you

1:07:20

for doing this. Enjoy the rest

1:07:22

of your day. Stay warm up

1:07:24

there. Well truly, thanks for having

1:07:26

me. Of course. Love you all

1:07:28

dearly. Love you too. Love you,

1:07:30

honey. It was awesome. Bye. Bye.

1:07:32

Guys that was Tignetaro. Yeah. Okay.

1:07:34

Tignetaro spelt TIG. Yep. That was

1:07:36

such a funny story about her

1:07:38

name. Good chord. About the pig.

1:07:40

You know, you know, you know,

1:07:42

pigs do have teats. And you

1:07:44

know, did you know you can

1:07:46

get milk from a pig? That

1:07:48

there's pig milk? No. There's certain

1:07:50

countries they drink pig milk? Oh

1:07:52

God. I'll try it. Will. Did

1:07:54

you know that? Will. Did you

1:07:57

know that? And people drink pig

1:07:59

milk, they put out a cream,

1:08:01

yeah. You knew that though. Put

1:08:03

in cereal, I'll put in cereal.

1:08:05

I didn't, no. I actually, I

1:08:07

feel worse for now. It's not

1:08:09

true, I was hoping you would

1:08:11

say, yeah, of course I fucking

1:08:13

knew that. You fucking... How great

1:08:15

is TIG, TIG, we've known for,

1:08:17

I'm not TIG, for a long,

1:08:19

long, long, long time, she's always

1:08:21

been so funny and so unique,

1:08:23

like there's nobody like there's nobody

1:08:25

like her. They're really yeah, and

1:08:27

I just I love I just

1:08:29

love because I usually end up

1:08:31

sitting next to her at Sunday

1:08:33

And I just I love I

1:08:35

just drink it all up. I

1:08:37

love I love every minute with

1:08:39

her. Yeah So Willie I say

1:08:41

you call your mom and I

1:08:43

might do it I would have

1:08:45

lunch with your mother in a

1:08:47

heartbeat if I was in trouble.

1:08:49

Oh my god, I would too.

1:08:52

I would love, when is she

1:08:54

going to come down here? I

1:08:56

want to talk to her. You

1:08:58

know what else I'd like to

1:09:00

do? I'd like to go to

1:09:02

your childhood home. I'd like to

1:09:04

see your bedroom, which I bet

1:09:06

is still pretty much intact. No,

1:09:08

no, no, no, no. I moved

1:09:10

a few times since. No, no,

1:09:12

no, no, no. I moved a,

1:09:14

I moved a, I moved a,

1:09:16

moved a, moved a, I moved

1:09:18

a, no, I moved a, no,

1:09:20

no, I moved a, I moved

1:09:22

a, no, I moved a, I

1:09:24

moved, I moved, I've, I've, I've,

1:09:26

I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've,

1:09:28

I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've,

1:09:30

I've, I've, I've, I've, moved, I've,

1:09:32

I've the world. This is true.

1:09:34

Huge map of the world and

1:09:36

then underneath on the sort of

1:09:38

the legend underneath it had all

1:09:40

the countries and it just had,

1:09:42

listen, just basic info about every

1:09:44

country. Capital, the size, it's sort

1:09:47

of square mileage, population, etc. for

1:09:49

every country in the world. So

1:09:51

I had that. Wow. And then

1:09:53

when I was, when I was

1:09:55

a teenager, I ended up having

1:09:57

like, I went to boarding school,

1:09:59

as you know, for a few

1:10:01

years, and then I came back

1:10:03

and I had, I had a

1:10:05

Smith poster on my wall. Yes,

1:10:07

yes, yes. Yeah, I had a

1:10:09

big, the world won't listen in

1:10:11

a Morrissey poster. Yeah, at the

1:10:13

best. Were you kind of like

1:10:15

a mod? Did you ever wear

1:10:17

like eye liner? No, no, no,

1:10:19

no, but I wore like I

1:10:21

wore like tapered like green sort

1:10:23

of dickey's type pants I wear

1:10:25

a lot of that and I

1:10:27

wore Doc Martin's Doc Martin brogues

1:10:29

water brooks like like shoes right

1:10:31

like wingtip sort of like you

1:10:33

know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,

1:10:35

like ducky from pretty and pink.

1:10:37

Yeah, but I never but yeah,

1:10:39

but like but never I wasn't

1:10:42

a mod in that sense I

1:10:44

but I but I yeah, but

1:10:46

it kept a tasteful tasteful sure

1:10:48

Yeah, of course. You keep it

1:10:50

timeless, that's the key. Oh, okay,

1:10:52

12 or 13, 12 or 13.

1:10:54

Did you have posters of yourself

1:10:56

on your wall? Because you were

1:10:58

in like Tiger Beat and 16

1:11:00

and all that shit. Yeah, all

1:11:02

the different hairstyles and there were,

1:11:04

because there's different sweater in each

1:11:06

one, you know. Yeah, yeah. God,

1:11:08

I wish it revealed that Sean

1:11:10

had a post review in his

1:11:12

room, it would be the first.

1:11:14

I literally had, I had a,

1:11:16

I think we said this when

1:11:18

Rashido Rashido was on Rashida was

1:11:20

on the one Rashida was on

1:11:22

the show. Did you really? Oh

1:11:24

wow. That my dad just put

1:11:26

up there for me and I

1:11:28

just never took it down. You

1:11:30

never took it. Yeah. All I

1:11:32

had was Michael Jackson posters everywhere.

1:11:34

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1:11:37

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1:11:39

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