"Tony Hale"

"Tony Hale"

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0:05

I got

0:05

my COVID booster shot today.

0:08

I'm feeling a little low

0:11

from the side effects.

0:14

But you know what I don't feel low

0:16

for? What up is that a smart class?

0:35

I was just in dad hell.

0:39

Uh-oh. You take

0:41

a deep breath. Yeah. Take a couple deep breath. Yeah. Oh

0:43

my god. I'm all sweaty, and my

0:45

hands are dirty, which is the worst part of

0:47

it. Looks like he holds his hands. Like, his husband's

0:49

been able to wash my hands. working on

0:51

a car. I just got a

0:53

hundred and fifty pound delivery from

0:56

UPS, which was Maple's

1:00

new. I'm not a little

1:02

girl anymore. Bask Oh, whoop. Sure.

1:04

Oh, I have that. Oh,

1:06

god. And I just spent the

1:08

good part of three hours assembling

1:12

just half of it. k? I had to I had

1:14

to punt, and I'm gonna have to do the other half

1:16

tomorrow or after this. And

1:19

guys,

1:20

if you

1:20

ever had an IKEA injury, you

1:22

know, where you really haven't screwed

1:24

in a bolt or anything for,

1:26

like, maybe ever in your forearms the

1:29

next day or just ripped to hell. I'm

1:31

gonna have, like, this is

1:33

not IKEA. This is a real big boy

1:35

whoop. Why not get why not get one over over

1:37

the garage. Like, can you just put it on the garage?

1:39

Well, I'd have to assemble that too, Sean. Only

1:41

in the coming hymns had on his days.

1:43

Listen to the pretty people. First of all, I I've

1:45

always said the IKEA is Swedish for argument.

1:48

because anytime you go into a IKEA store in a

1:50

week, you just see you go like, we don't need that.

1:52

Well, we've already cut the one in the other room. We've got,

1:55

like, doing the Yep. We've already cut the other thing. I

1:57

really feel proud. There's a there's a certain

1:59

pride that comes with the the

2:01

finishing of of the assembly. For

2:03

sure. And this one I

2:06

always know a pride when I finish. We're

2:09

talking about the same thing. Right? Yeah. So

2:12

I'm gonna feel like well,

2:15

I'm not gonna extrapolate on your on your --

2:17

Got it. -- your metaphor there. But I'm gonna feel

2:19

so good when this is done, but it's made me late.

2:21

My hands are dirty, and I'm only half done.

2:23

Again, I think we're talking about the same thing.

2:26

Yeah. And

2:28

almost more importantly, I

2:30

have not had the time to

2:32

do my prep for my guest

2:35

today. Oh, that's okay. So Yeah. So you're good.

2:37

This is my I think this is today. This is my

2:39

guest I think. Right? Yeah. Yeah. It is.

2:41

And Wait. Yeah. And so this is gonna

2:43

be my first raw dog. I'm still

2:45

talking about the same thing. boy,

2:48

this is a long subject. Now

2:50

we're talking about a different Wait. First of all, I

2:52

missed I missed you guys last night. We I

2:54

was supposed to see you for dinner at a friend's house

2:56

and I know. I don't even think Well, I well,

2:58

you know why I didn't make it because I kinda

3:00

partially partially pulled my back.

3:03

You did. And so it's all about

3:05

Old Man for me today. it's it's it's

3:07

it's Jason. And then I I stopped by Will's

3:09

house on the way home. I texted you. Hey. I'm stopping at

3:11

Will's if you want me to lie. I ignored that text

3:13

because it was so pissed off at my back.

3:15

That's alright. And I didn't even answer them.

3:17

No. I don't do that. So I'm trying to

3:20

touch Well, it didn't assess it. No. Here.

3:22

Guess what? I read you the goddamn text

3:24

right now. Listen to how this does

3:26

not trigger a response at

3:28

all. Got it.

3:30

Mist you tonight, period. We

3:32

left because Scott is tired, period.

3:35

Stopping off at wheels to say quick hello

3:37

if you feel like jaunting over,

3:39

period. Well, I don't.

3:42

And thanks for the update. Well, we got

3:44

it now. Twenty four hours later, he got it.

3:46

Hey, speaking of good friends,

3:48

Yeah. So Sean did come over last

3:50

night with Scottie. It was a good friend. It was it's

3:52

not like you just got back from the hospital

3:54

and everyone's gotta stop by. Yeah.

3:57

No. But but

4:00

No. But but Will's your

4:02

your house is spectacular.

4:05

Oh, It is just I know. Good for

4:07

you, leaveable. Thank you. Thank you. Okay.

4:09

It's so beautiful. It's taking a long time.

4:12

But, Ajay, I think you're really gonna like it. And

4:14

we're talking about Monday doing

4:16

a hang shame

4:18

on with everybody. So Oh, sorry. Listeners.

4:20

Just hold on one second. We'll set it

4:22

Take your time to make some plans. What

4:25

is it? Well, a week from today, what

4:27

do we do? By the way, we just talked

4:29

about you putting together fucking basketball hoop

4:31

for your dog. But that's all you think that's podcast

4:34

worthy. I'm not just fucking filling

4:36

up my file of facts with next

4:38

Monday's plan. There's so much to fill up here on

4:40

Google news alerts with links about

4:42

cute dad moment. Jason Baitman put together

4:44

for you. I'm I'm self effacing

4:46

right now. I'm I'm talking about how soft texting

4:48

Amanda right now. I wanna get a photo of you

4:50

putting that together so badly. What

4:53

about the and but all the damage I did to

4:55

I'm trying to do good things for my daughter and the

4:57

damage I did yelling at her while I'm

4:59

putting this thing together, she's asking

5:01

to help. Do you think by

5:03

you asking for help that you're helping?

5:07

By the way, that's a great impression of you.

5:11

inflections on the wrong words. Yeah.

5:14

Alright. Let's get to What's a good impression

5:16

of you? It is. I love seeing you frazzled. Our

5:18

guest has a great daughter that I bet

5:20

he's nice to than I am to mine --

5:22

Okay. -- or at least assembles more

5:24

things for. So here I am. Just raw dog

5:26

in it right now. Please stop

5:28

using Our guest I

5:31

don't have my Wikipedia in front of me, but I

5:33

should know enough. He

5:35

-- Okay. -- so it's a man.

5:37

Yeah. That part, I I don't Well, you guys wait a while ago,

5:39

but go ahead. No. No. Did I really?

5:41

Yeah. He has a daughter? Yeah. That

5:43

was earlier. And then before that, Ben, we keep

5:45

going, man. You No. No. Tell me who you think it is.

5:47

I don't know who it is, but I know that it's a he because

5:49

you say he. Okay. So it's

5:51

a he. Oh my

5:53

god. Boy, he's a father. He's

5:57

an actor. Do you know him?

5:59

Yeah, man. Okay. And

6:03

he's great. Okay. He's

6:06

nice. Okay. You wanna just say his name?

6:08

And so he's No. Not yet. He's

6:10

funny. What time today did you hit fuck

6:12

it? You just I

6:15

spent all I had putting up

6:17

half the hoop. How's your back now, by

6:19

the way? And you know what? We're gonna

6:21

we're gonna find out a lot about this guest

6:24

and we're gonna give him a chance to tell us.

6:26

But I'll tell you what I do know. Yeah.

6:28

I love him.

6:29

Okay.

6:30

And Will loves him. Yeah. a

6:32

lot. Mhmm. And How does

6:34

Sean feel about him? Sean, I

6:36

don't know if you've ever met him, but

6:38

you may have. We're gonna find out in a second.

6:40

Let's just get on with it. Yeah. Will,

6:43

it's our long lost brother, Tony Hale.

6:45

Come on, Tony. Hello? What's

6:49

What are you talking about? I live I live for

6:51

Tony Hale. Well, have you guys met

6:53

many times? Yeah. Really? With

6:55

me? No. Not with you. No.

6:57

No? Okay. Good. Actually, no. We did meet with you

6:59

because it was at a it was a party

7:02

years ago at your house. And I

7:04

went up to you, Sean, and I was at my

7:06

house. No. At Jason's

7:08

house. Okay. And I was I said, oh, Sean,

7:10

I'm a big fan

7:12

of yours. Come to find out later, you never watched the

7:14

rest of development. your life. No.

7:16

Well, I'm not lied. I'm

7:18

I can still be a fan. He's seen the commercials,

7:20

Tony. Really? No. That's tone.

7:24

Oh, bet you'd probably seen Veeb. But

7:26

that's another thing I could have put on the intro that

7:28

I could I can raw dog. Well, when you

7:30

said Veeb, I just would have known immediately.

7:32

But Exactly. But but wait, Tony hang

7:34

on. Let's kinda absorb that. Tony.

7:37

I'm so happy to be here. Guys,

7:39

that was really hard not to

7:42

It's really, really hard not to laugh. Exactly.

7:44

Tony and I, Tony,

7:46

are we talking about the same thing? That

7:48

made me laugh. out loud. In

7:50

my mouth. In my hand. I I forgot

7:53

when you were just when you hadn't revealed your side.

7:55

I forgot what a heavy breather you are. And

7:57

and so I just do Well, asthma.

7:59

ASMA. Thanks for bringing up. Oh, really?

8:01

Yeah. I meant that in a good way,

8:03

by the way. Oh, you didn't. Oh, okay.

8:05

You don't have have you had an asthma

8:07

for a long time? I have since I was

8:09

a kid. Oh, that's right. I knew this. I

8:12

got it. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. I didn't know. Maybe you knew this. You talked

8:14

about it on your podcast. Yeah. Oh,

8:17

oh, wait. Was Tony on hypochondriacactor?

8:20

Mhmm. Yeah. Oh, no way. This

8:22

is a crossover episode. Mhmm.

8:24

He played Gary Walsh on Veep. Oh,

8:26

do we already did the intro, Jay? We already did

8:28

the demo. He won an Emmy in twenty

8:31

thirteen -- The afternoon. -- thirteen

8:34

for Veep. know he didn't win for

8:36

arrested. I was sitting next to

8:38

Tony when he won Yeah. You were. But

8:40

Jason was in front in front. And Jason was

8:42

in front when they called member Jay when he got

8:44

his you got his first name? How about that? He's not gonna remember. I

8:46

don't remember anything. I know. Okay. Listen,

8:48

Tony's. Guess what, guys? His birthday's

8:50

September thirtieth, and he's fifty one.

8:54

I don't need the Wikipedia

8:56

to tell me his wife's name is Martell.

8:58

I love her and I miss her.

9:00

And Loy is still your daughter?

9:02

Look, she's not. Oh. She's

9:04

got I know how she retired. We had

9:06

a we had a hard break up. Oh, didn't work

9:08

out. Oh, she's now She's

9:11

sixteen now. She's junior

9:13

in high school. She driving. Yeah.

9:15

because Fran is about to be driving.

9:17

Yeah. She's driving. How did that go for

9:19

you, Martell? It's been

9:21

a journey. It's it's it's that it's

9:23

the highways that do freak me out. Sure. A little

9:25

bit. The only highways. So so

9:28

I was driving home just now. I

9:30

was I picked up Archie from school with

9:32

his pal, and I was driving back and I was coming up

9:34

cold water. And I see these two teenagers

9:36

trying to make a left hand turn and

9:38

cross you know, rush hour traffic. Yeah. And

9:40

so I stopped to let them go because they were trying to

9:42

take a left in front of me and and to go the

9:44

direction I was going. And everybody else coming

9:46

down cold water was not having it.

9:48

And these kids, they pulled out, and they went back, and

9:50

they and I just stopped, and I held, and I kept flashing

9:52

my light, and I put my hand out the window, like, guys

9:54

go, and I could see that they were barely

9:57

sixteen. And it made me so nervous

9:59

for them. And then they finally, one other

10:01

person, confused by your kindness. Right?

10:03

Well, the yeah. But the people the other way and I

10:05

just thought as they went out, I just I wanted

10:07

of course, as you know it's single lane, I wanted to pull up

10:09

to them and and teach them a lesson and literally

10:11

go, like, guys, you need to know something.

10:14

Just be careful, please. You just

10:16

I was nervous for them as a

10:18

dad. We're such old man now. I know.

10:20

Right? Just a few years ago. Yeah. You would

10:22

have just been honking and saying, get the

10:24

hell out of that god. I know.

10:26

So so Tony Hale so

10:28

so to Tracy, Tony so

10:30

fun. This is so fun. This

10:32

is amazing. Tony. Tony and

10:35

I met first. I just wanna say no.

10:37

I know Jason is your guest, but I'm gonna hug this.

10:39

I wanna say Tony, please. I'm unprepared. Okay.

10:42

Nortel Martel, his

10:44

wife used to work on SNL, and so

10:46

our one started the night live, Tracy. tonight

10:48

live, Tracy, which is a long

10:50

standing live sketch comedy.

10:52

Okay. And when did they shoot

10:54

that? Oh my god. They so

10:56

they knew each other before. So then Tony and I

10:58

went out to read for a rest of development, which is

11:00

a longer story and we kind of had a

11:02

little bit of a we kind of knew each other

11:04

a little bit. Like, hey. Hey. We had

11:06

that familiarity in

11:08

front of from of SNL because our

11:10

wives knew each other. And it was

11:13

we were both it was very nerve wracking. We were

11:15

both staying at what was then the Intercontinental

11:17

Hotel in Century City.

11:19

and we walked to our test together. Yeah.

11:21

No way. Remember that? to Tony's impressive development. for

11:24

message development. Tony was walking. You both got it.

11:26

That's when we both got it. Wait. So you

11:28

walked you walked down. Oh, yeah.

11:30

So just now learning that we both We logged in

11:32

the back gate. We went in what's that called the

11:34

the galaxy gate? Yeah. Yeah. And we

11:36

went in the back together and then we walked over

11:38

and read with you and with Porsche

11:40

and and Jessica and everybody. Yeah.

11:42

And then we both got it. and

11:44

then we walked and then we were, like, I guess, we're

11:46

staying for a little bit. Yeah. Did you correct

11:48

me if I'm wrong, did we shoot the pilot right

11:50

after we had that callback? Well, yeah.

11:52

Tony, remember remember the next night. I I'm

11:54

good with stuff like this, Jason. With that. Okay. The

11:56

next night we had a read What

11:58

year was this well. This is of the two thousand

12:01

three. This is late February of two thousand three,

12:03

Tony knows. Wait. How do you know

12:05

the month free? Because by the way, by

12:07

the way, In this this spring, it's

12:09

gonna be twenty years since we shot the pilot

12:11

twenty twenty. And when does it come out?

12:13

It that's gonna Turn

12:15

your camera off right now, Sean. Anyway,

12:18

so that's totally

12:20

shelved for twenty years. And

12:22

then and and I will say this,

12:24

And I and I've told this and I've said it, high and

12:27

wide. Framatomexico: There

12:29

is nobody on the

12:31

set. And Jason, you're there. And I'm I'm sorry to say,

12:33

but there's nobody who cracked me up. And I think

12:35

you wanna test this too the way

12:37

Tony held David Croft. Oh,

12:39

Tony no. I

12:41

I listened

12:43

to David's podcast you guys

12:45

did with him. And and and, Will, when you said

12:47

the best Joker you said and when he

12:50

said, I don't know what you said, Jason. Like, how are

12:52

you doing? He goes good? And then he goes, no.

12:54

It's going to be good. Yeah.

12:56

That was remember that's the best

12:58

time. That was so funny. But Tony,

13:00

Tony would do this thing where he'd be getting ready

13:02

to like he and I would both be off

13:04

camera, ready to enter a scene. And,

13:06

Jason, you know, starting to get in the bus and

13:08

start getting into muster. you'd be talking to

13:10

about something goes through. We're like, I think we're ramping later and then

13:12

you go, yeah, and then you hear the scene go, okay, and

13:14

then you go, like, and then you bring up the tyrannosaurus

13:16

rat's hands. You bring his hands up like this.

13:18

And I would and then I have to come in

13:20

after him. And I mean,

13:22

in tears. Oh,

13:25

totally funny. Fuck me, Tony, you're so

13:27

goddamn funny. He touches the chin and brings

13:29

up the T Rexham, and then he's

13:31

in. Damn. I took

13:33

it really seriously. Well,

13:35

now is that the tool tell me about that? Is

13:37

that because I haven't worked with you before or since

13:39

-- Mhmm. -- unfortunately. Mhmm.

13:41

But it was your are you

13:43

that disciplined with everything you do

13:45

or or did you think at the

13:47

time this is a big deal, a big show?

13:49

I better keep it tight because -- Yeah.

13:51

-- this feels large. Yeah.

13:54

I was I think I was so I

13:56

think all that. I was really

13:58

overwhelmed. I was really intimidated.

14:01

And I was like, I gotta I gotta do the work. And

14:03

so I would go back to my hotel room, and I would just,

14:05

like, practice in the mirror and all that stuff

14:07

and, like because I will say, I went up to

14:09

Mitchell. asked a very three question, miss Mitchell,

14:11

which was the was the boss on the show,

14:13

Tracy? Mitchell, he was the guest. I'm here too.

14:15

Oh, yeah. Sweet Tracy. And I

14:17

I asked him and I said, what does Buster want in

14:20

life? But he said, I know. It's a really accurate

14:22

question. And he goes, he all he wants in

14:24

life to safety. Oh. And so

14:26

then I just kinda, like, thought

14:28

every everything that's right in his safety, he would

14:30

just, like, panic. And so he

14:32

was always in a state of defense, like

14:34

his chin would go back. His hands

14:36

would go back. and he was just

14:38

just constantly waiting was gonna come at him.

14:40

Gotcha. That's really

14:42

funny. Sean, you have to know he'd be doing his

14:44

seat, and then you be, like and even when you were

14:46

rolling. And if Tony was behind

14:48

you and you'd be having conversation, like, just say

14:50

just everybody, like, blah blah blah, and then you just

14:52

hear, oh, Yeah. I mean, I'm

14:54

sorry. You can always

14:56

hear what's going on inside. He'd sort of

14:58

verbalize it. Now And I

15:00

have a really fat Shen, which actually helped because

15:02

it was just, like, no, you don't need to

15:04

do not. I have a question about I

15:06

I heard about, like, I don't know the process on

15:08

arrest development. It sounds like it was obviously, I've

15:10

heard so many shows. It's a good time, Shai.

15:12

Yeah. Good shows. Good

15:14

episodes. And

15:17

I'm sure you I like it as much as you

15:19

like it though. doing great, you know. So

15:21

But I'm curious, John, have you seen I mean,

15:23

have you literally seen anything? I saw the

15:25

first two I laughed out loud. you didn't see the

15:27

first person. Yeah. because that was that was enough. It's

15:29

not not not that person. You're that

15:31

person. You're that person. Got it. So

15:34

there's a problem and it gets

15:36

resolved. Okay. So but

15:39

on Veep, I heard that

15:41

there's a there's a action I don't know if this is true with

15:43

this. I've always wanted to ask you this, that there is

15:45

a process actual rehearsal process, like

15:48

a lengthy one. Can you describe that

15:50

to me? Because I'm kind of really interested in

15:52

that where you got to improvise

15:54

scenes even though they were written, or did you improvise

15:56

them first and the writers would write from what you came

15:58

up with? I think a

15:59

little bit about Armando Eunucci who

16:02

created it. He would give us he would give

16:04

us his name. Armando

16:07

Eunu Oh, great. Here's the demo. Armando

16:09

Eunuchy.

16:10

No. Armando Eunuchy. Isn't it Armando

16:13

Eunuch? How many years did you guys work again?

16:15

Yeah. Probably seven or eight? I think

16:17

it's Armando.

16:19

Armando. Armando, you you you you know, chief.

16:22

So he is a pastor. We

16:24

would call him arm. We would call him arm.

16:26

Alright. I think you have been his full name, Jason. Yeah.

16:28

But I think it's like I'm pretty sure it's

16:30

Amanda. So we're we

16:32

by the way, we we just found our promo

16:35

clip. So I

16:37

might have known you. But

16:39

he would he would kinda give us

16:41

a scenario. And the because

16:43

Matt Walsh was also in VP, you know, who's,

16:45

like, a master and Robert, and he helped

16:47

create YouTube and all this stuff. And so

16:50

all of his head to kind of give him a routine. Like, it's not necessarily

16:52

about coming up with funny bits. He was just kinda he just

16:54

wanted to see if it gelled and then added

16:56

that funny bits would come. But you guys

16:58

know, we never rehearsed on arrested. We rarely

17:00

had any rehearsal on TV. You know? Right. Yeah.

17:02

That's why I was asking just because on

17:04

Veep, so you would rehearse,

17:06

what, a a week before you

17:08

even started shooting? We would shoot we

17:10

would fly down because we shot in Baltimore, so

17:12

we'd fly down a couple weeks before we shoot and

17:14

just, like, go to this room. Or every episode, a

17:16

week for every episode? No. No.

17:18

No. No. No. No. It was, like, we would do,

17:20

like, five scripts or something like that. I still got it. Feel those

17:22

out. Yeah. Wait. Wait. Sorry. Sorry.

17:25

Totally confused here. What

17:28

happens? So there's a script that's written.

17:30

Yeah. There's a script that's

17:32

written. Ish. So, yeah, the

17:34

script is they have a really good idea

17:36

of the script. and then

17:39

a lot is written. But then they kind

17:41

of throw out they

17:42

they

17:43

they ask to kind of throw away the script and just kind

17:45

of play with the scene. So it's

17:47

like, we would do some of the lines and not do

17:49

some of the lines or more of just, like,

17:51

if the if the story is working,

17:53

if the relationships are working,

17:55

If bits do come out with, like You

17:57

guys sound like story tellers. Yeah.

18:00

So So wait. So then so then they

18:02

would then see what you guys would

18:04

improvise in addition to what is

18:06

written. And then if that if the improvised

18:08

dialogue is worthy

18:10

of being included in this half written script,

18:12

it would. Yes?

18:15

Yeah. Well, thanks for making it sound less fun. But

18:17

yeah. Well, then a week and then a week later,

18:19

you then have a complete script.

18:21

and that's the script that you would then

18:24

shoot? Yeah. But even in that

18:26

complete script, if stuff came out, they

18:28

would be it was a very loose Open

18:31

environment. Yeah. you should see you should see

18:33

Jason explain to kids on how to get on a bouncy

18:35

house. He really so

18:37

you're going the air is pumped up and then it keeps I

18:39

want you to unlace your shoes -- And then your socks

18:41

-- -- because of -- -- wear them outside. -- your

18:43

ligament. -- and see it.

18:45

Yep. Now, Tony, I saw I remember

18:47

seeing a long time ago, didn't you do

18:49

drunk his three, like, even more than one

18:51

several times. Yeah. I love that show. It's

18:53

so fucking funny. And I learned a

18:55

lot too. By the way, dumb dumb

18:57

because I know nothing about that show other than it's hilarious and

18:59

you're great. They really make you

19:01

drink until you can't. Oh,

19:03

I wasn't I wasn't the storyteller.

19:05

know. I know. But I mean, like, the people that are Yeah.

19:08

Yeah. I think they get them really drunk. And

19:10

then they have them kind of

19:11

retell Just like they're totally that's to tell tell

19:14

the story. And it's And the

19:16

thing

19:16

is, is there stuff that I learned from that show that I

19:18

never knew? Just the the way they said it. It

19:20

was about Pewking. So great. About Pewking. I

19:22

learned a lot about how you throw

19:24

up your meals. Tony was a

19:27

Sigma Kai for two k. No. For two k. He's

19:29

back with Wikipedia. Like,

19:31

he went to Samford University,

19:35

which we started by

19:37

by Red Fox --

19:40

Sure. Sure. -- and

19:42

his son. I was I

19:44

actually I was I'm in Nashville right now

19:46

because I'm doing a movie here with my

19:48

friend Seth Worley, and it's, like, two hours from

19:50

Alabama. So I went and visited

19:52

some friends from and then Martell's family. So I was just

19:54

there. Come on, ma'am. From us. Nice. Did you

19:56

go back to the SigmaCai Fraternity House?

19:58

I did not. Or you got your journalism degree

20:00

in nineteen ninety too. Okay.

20:02

Well, he didn't get his degree from you know, he doesn't know how

20:04

college works. But hey, Tony.

20:07

So you've always had

20:10

Obviously, I'm here to learn. Both you and Martell

20:12

are from the south as you just sort

20:14

of alluded to. Yeah. You ever

20:17

and you you maintained deep This

20:20

is so this is so fun.

20:22

This is sort of a lot of credit.

20:24

It's just Because I

20:26

don't know what you've done in a couple of episodes

20:28

of Samantha Who. Okay. We

20:30

gotta we gotta get past this.

20:32

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20:36

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Alright. Back to

24:36

the show. Tony,

24:38

so to talk to us a little bit. So you're from

24:40

the south, you grew up in the south, and then you go you

24:42

move to New York. We meet in New

24:45

York. How did that

24:47

happen? What was the move from

24:49

college to New York? And what was

24:51

what was your goal? Okay.

24:52

So I moved to New York

24:55

in ninety five, didn't know

24:57

anybody, and then I the

24:59

very first theatres show I did in New

25:01

York with Shakespeare in the parking lot,

25:03

where we did taming in the show in a parking

25:05

lot. And the Wait. I'm being curious. I'm dead

25:07

serious. That's hysterical. And and

25:09

then we did that. And then I I you had

25:11

every job. I catered waiter all that

25:13

stuff. Actually, I really like catered wearing

25:15

better than waiting tables. And

25:18

so I came away with all these jobs, and then I started

25:20

doing commercials. And my

25:22

my

25:22

type was the guy who wasn't all

25:24

there. That's what I that's what I was

25:27

described. And now become the

25:29

Tony Hale to That really hasn't much that

25:31

hasn't really changed. And so then I started

25:34

doing commercials and enjoying it,

25:36

but it took me six years

25:38

to find an agent who would

25:40

send me out for TV and film? Because they saw

25:42

me just as a commercial act well, Sean,

25:44

you did commercials for a long time today.

25:47

Yeah. Was there a lot of sort of like,

25:49

there there was a thing there, like, Figma

25:51

being like a commercial actor and the difference between

25:54

that in doing film and

25:56

TV? Yeah. It was just they were kind of putting you

25:58

in compartments and it was

25:59

just tough get somebody sent me out for TV film and theater.

26:02

And there was this casting director named Marsha

26:04

DeBonis. Oh, yeah. Oh, the great Marsha

26:06

DeBonis. Yeah. And she actually I

26:08

don't know if you She's the

26:10

one who well, I'd I'd found

26:12

arrested. Yeah. I'd found a

26:14

manager, like, a year before something, so I was

26:16

kind of being sent out for stuff.

26:18

And then since she cast a lot of commercials, she thought about me

26:20

for this role and brought me in. That's

26:22

right.

26:22

Marsha did the she did the handled the

26:24

New York casting for

26:27

arrested development. Yeah. And yeah. Yeah. And

26:29

I and the whole and I and Mitch said when I

26:31

was because Buster massaged

26:34

people a lot, And

26:36

he's and I was and and the audition I was

26:38

miss I was massaging my knees

26:41

and

26:41

met since the camera stopped here. He didn't know

26:43

what I was doing down there. and it and

26:45

it peaked at interest in the you said something

26:47

like you were doing something else. Yeah. Maybe.

26:50

Yeah. But I was I was just I mean, I don't I

26:52

I don't do you I don't know how do you guys

26:54

have much memory of that

26:56

that shooting that pilot? because I know we got it

26:58

at that It was down south, right,

27:00

and at the At least studies in Manhattan Beach. Yep.

27:02

It wasn't was it a Manhattan Beach studio?

27:04

Yes. Yes. Yeah. because I the only memory I have is

27:06

I ran out I remember running out of underwear. I

27:08

had to go to Old Navy to get

27:10

on. Where how does one run out of

27:12

underwear? Is it because you do you have too many

27:14

mistakes in the day? I had 5II should

27:16

my pants, five times. I'll start with Jason.

27:19

I'll start with Jason. You know, take care of the visit before

27:21

you leave the house. Christina, Google is just a

27:23

little showering. Do you shower before

27:25

or after? Oh my gosh.

27:28

By God. This is You

27:30

know, Tony -- Yeah. -- it

27:32

does say here that your father --

27:34

Okay. -- taught nuclear and

27:36

atomic physics. Yeah. Unserved

27:38

in the military. Yeah. He did. And

27:40

he went to West Point. He went to West Point.

27:42

Good luck. And then he taught nuclear

27:45

physics after after

27:46

he that was done that

27:48

was point no. Yeah. He taught there after,

27:50

and then he was in the military

27:52

for twenty years. And we moved

27:54

around. We lived in Germany and everything. Well, do you

27:56

feel as bad as I do that you don't know

27:59

this about Tony

27:59

after all the years we've worked together?

28:02

I

28:02

feel what if Will's like, not really? I

28:04

really feel I mean, I know what if Will

28:06

said, yeah. And his mom taught such and such and both,

28:08

like, that you knew everything about Tony

28:10

and I don't No. I I didn't know that. I gotta

28:13

say I'm a little embarrassed to say this.

28:15

Yeah. That's terrible. I love that guy

28:17

stuff. Did you ever get into that with your dad?

28:19

Like, did you ever talk like, Was it did

28:21

any of that interest you? because it interests me. Oh, you don't have a

28:23

deck being in the military? No. That that

28:25

asked for nuclear politics like

28:27

you must but that's like a double whammy

28:29

for a military guy and

28:31

a nuclear physicist to say

28:34

to to hear his son say, I wanna be an

28:36

actor. You know, well, my

28:38

grandfather was an opera singer, so my dad

28:40

had a real appreciation for the

28:42

arts. So he always always

28:45

supported where I wanted to go, which I Do you have memory do you

28:47

have memories of that of your grandfather being an opera

28:49

singer? He passed away when my dad

28:51

was six. Okay. Nice call. Well, he

28:53

had to hide it out. Nice call. Nice call.

28:55

Nice call. Nice call. Nice

28:57

call. Nice call. Nice call.

28:59

Sorry about this. But, like, he he never he

29:01

always they always supported me, which I is not always the

29:03

case. So I'm -- Yeah. -- thankful for that. Your

29:05

your mom was the one that really was

29:07

against the the acting stuff.

29:09

Go ahead. No. Would she

29:12

loved it too? She did. I'm looking

29:14

for controversy. He wants a real

29:16

gosh episode here with somebody.

29:18

Right. Let me let me just

29:20

go through a couple. You guys talked to your physician and find

29:22

out what mom was doing during all this. So so wait.

29:25

Wait. You know, it says here. Let me tell you some tell you what

29:27

else it says. Oh my god. six nominations

29:29

-- Yes. -- for Veep alone

29:31

-- Yeah. -- there on the Emmys.

29:35

SAG Awards, three nominations, another

29:39

six for Veep. Tony, how many

29:41

Emmy wins for Veep, too?

29:43

Two. Yeah.

29:43

For you or the show?

29:45

For him. For him.

29:47

I I think oh oh, for me too. Yeah.

29:49

But for the show, I I think it was too. I'm

29:51

not sure. Yeah. That's

29:52

so great. Such funny show. It was a really,

29:55

really funny show. III watched some of

29:57

those outtakes between you and

29:59

Julia, and I'm die

30:01

laughing. Yeah. That's fine. It's there's

30:03

one scene where she has to she

30:05

has to she asked me to break up

30:07

with her boyfriend for her

30:09

in the first in, like,

30:11

the first season and she's so close proximity to me. And

30:14

it's almost I mean, I remember all these moments I'm

30:16

arrested. It's so impossible to

30:18

not laugh. You were great about not

30:20

watching this thing now. It's just shaking. I

30:22

wasn't in mute. Julia said to me

30:24

once, you know, you know, you're not watching the show. You're in

30:26

the show, Tony. because I was because

30:28

I was laughing so hard. I couldn't keep

30:30

it together. Wait. Was she fantastic at

30:32

not breaking? She would always dig her

30:34

nails into her hands to

30:36

stop laughing. I'd I'd I'd do

30:38

that. I pinch my my thigh

30:40

skin. I I but I've

30:42

I've brought blood to Are you doing a couple of

30:44

psychotic things to not laugh? Well, I

30:46

used to I used to not be able to look at Jeffrey

30:48

Tambor straight in the eyes when he would do scenes

30:50

with me and he'd yell at me for, like, would I

30:52

be staring at, like, you know, side of his cheek or

30:54

the tip of his nose? he

30:56

was so dry. And my thing

30:58

is though, I don't know about you guys, but there were

31:00

times that we just trusted

31:02

Mitch's the grid he had in his head because there

31:04

were so many levels to what was going on. I

31:06

had many times, no idea what was going on. And I

31:08

just had to trust his guidance. Most of

31:10

the time, especially the the last couple of years, just

31:12

so complex. Very complex. There was a

31:14

joke there was a joke. What was somebody asking once?

31:17

What was your one of your favorite bits? And aside

31:19

from Tobias being in the blue man group,

31:21

which owns Yeah. Not hard.

31:23

Okay. The the one joke

31:25

win. Ian Lesser?

31:27

The the doctor. Lesser. Lesser.

31:30

Ian Roberts. Ian Roberts. Yes. Yeah. Ian

31:32

Roberts came out -- Man. -- one of my

31:34

favorite shows. And he would and and

31:36

Jessica would say, is he is he

31:38

okay? And he they're yes. he's okay. And he says, but

31:40

his hand has been he's

31:42

been severed, and

31:42

they would get on that. And I just thought that was so hilarious

31:44

the way he delivered it. then

31:46

I was on a I was on a podcast like a

31:49

Sam was just a sketch first years ago in front of

31:51

an audience and I was saying that was my favorite joke.

31:53

Somebody raised their hand and said, no, no, no,

31:55

that's not what he He says, So

31:57

he's all right, meaning he

31:59

has an

31:59

all right hand and not a left hand.

32:02

Right. So fifteen years after the

32:04

joke is when I finally get it. But there And

32:06

you were in the scene. And I was in the

32:08

scene. Uh-huh. This

32:10

is Erica. I mean, just so many

32:12

things I missed. I love how they would just proudly lean

32:15

into cheap jokes, you know, like the -- Yeah. --

32:17

her the c word --

32:19

Yep. -- was the name of the yacht.

32:21

Right? SEAWARDC

32:25

word. And then she blue

32:27

handprints on the wall. And then we'd call

32:29

her the c word Right?

32:31

We we call mom or she thought we were calling

32:33

her to see what So IIII

32:36

remember, you know, you called the

32:37

great Matt Walsh, who was who was with

32:39

you on deep, who's a hilarious guy, one of the founding

32:42

members of upper right citizens, brigade. Yeah.

32:44

And I and Roberts as well. And

32:46

and I just Those doctor

32:48

moments were so dry and so funny. Yes.

32:51

Ina is so good

32:53

in those moments Yes. I

32:55

can't imagine anybody else doing it. And he would do

32:58

the, you know, the whole, like, yes or, well, we

33:00

lost him and everybody starts crying. They

33:02

just literally meant that they

33:04

lost him. And those

33:06

those moments stick with me too, those like

33:08

-- Yeah. -- guys like that coming in who are

33:10

just absolute assassins. delarious

33:14

kind of thing. And Mitch and Mitch just would

33:16

just go he would think of stuff that I

33:18

would never even consider. I mean, obviously, that

33:20

has sealed it off my hand, but Yeah.

33:23

One is that when Jessica

33:25

was on house arrest and she

33:27

couldn't smoke

33:28

and she needed me to inhale

33:30

the smoke out of her mouth, and

33:32

then blow it out on the balcony. You need to run

33:34

out on the balcony and then

33:36

come back like a baby bird and just

33:38

you know, suck it out of her mouth. Just

33:41

the most disturbing Yeah. But but

33:43

Sean, you know what? Just keep watch just the two

33:45

just the two episodes. Just tell me about it.

33:47

Okay. Yeah. I I love it. Sean,

33:49

how did you get when you got couldn't

33:51

stop laughing? Did you just go for it, or did you

33:53

keep yourself -- Either Will and Grace -- Yeah.

33:55

-- program? Wait. Will you on that?

33:57

Yeah. It's just a shock. I've

33:59

got to see that. No.

34:02

I would I would I had I'm the

34:04

easiest I can't. I'm not I'm the opposite of

34:06

a rock on stage. I laugh at anything. It's

34:08

so good. Tody, you know, one of the one

34:10

of my memories of you, one of my vivid

34:12

memories and it's still a lot

34:14

say is is what a kind person you are and how kind you are to people in

34:16

your life and people around you. And it's one

34:19

of the it's one of the great things about

34:21

you that makes you such a loveable

34:23

and amazing person. And I

34:26

remember being when we were shooting

34:28

the show, so many great moments where

34:30

you were so sweet and kind at

34:32

But I remember when we had first had Liza on the show --

34:34

Oh, yeah. -- Manelli. And Liza

34:37

came in and out over

34:39

the years in in and

34:41

was very open about being going through

34:44

moments in her life and whatever and was

34:46

just and you and

34:48

Martell took you know, you knew

34:50

that she was in her hotel by herself, and I

34:52

remember you guys just coming you guys went and picked

34:54

her up for dinner one night. What?

34:56

Mhmm. Yeah. she was in the back seat with no seat belt on. She's like a kid.

34:58

Remember it like we used to do back in the seventies?

35:00

Yeah. Kinda lean forward. I remember you describing

35:02

between the

35:04

seats. So smoking at Martell and Tony's car as they're driving

35:06

to better talk to him. She she

35:08

insisted that she wanted to sit in the back seat and

35:10

rolled the windows and just immediately tried to change smoking.

35:13

in the past, please. I was like, please don't stop. Like, you

35:16

can speak as much as you

35:18

want. And she Where'd you guys

35:20

go? We went to the hamburger

35:22

hamlet. Sure. And

35:24

so she got in the back seat and she was talking

35:26

about her music and talking about this

35:28

concert. She stood at radio city music hall.

35:30

And I

35:31

was like, by the way, I'm still absorbing that lies in the world of my

35:33

girlfriend. The whole thing is just incredibly

35:35

true. And we both kissed her

35:37

on the onerous And we

35:39

both kissed her. And she's talking about this concert, and she

35:42

says, oh, I sang, and I said, what'd you sing? And she said

35:44

I sang the song with a z. And I was like,

35:46

oh, and and I didn't know that

35:48

song stupidly. And I said I and

35:50

so she broke out in the song, in the back seat of our car. I just hang it. And

35:52

and just started singing it. And she had

35:54

done it so many times that she could

35:57

hear the orchestration her head

35:59

in Chico. just

36:05

smoking. And I was like, well, nice. Well, we can

36:07

die. Well, it's time to die, guys.

36:09

Jesus in the back

36:11

hammer and darts. And

36:14

I was just

36:18

like, I I don't

36:20

know what's happening. I'm just gonna keep

36:22

driving the free concert. I remember

36:24

you coming back after that weekend being like,

36:26

well, we had a

36:28

crazy weekend. But then she told it, then she would, like, go and and

36:30

just talked about her mom and she loved her

36:32

mom and talk about

36:34

being hurt. She

36:34

grew up on the MGM lot. that

36:37

was pretty much her childhood and I mean, but her

36:39

stories never came from a place

36:42

of ego. They always came from a place

36:44

of, like, listen to my life. Like, this this was my life, you

36:46

know. You guys had some other big guest stars

36:48

on there too. Right? Marty showers on there.

36:50

Yeah. Marty show. It's

36:52

crazy. shoot

36:54

me. Yeah. He had lost use of his legs from a tragic

36:56

weightlifting accident. Right? He was clean

36:58

and jerking, and he got it up high.

37:01

And then too much, and

37:03

both legs went out from underneath them, snapped

37:05

in half. And so he hired a

37:08

bodybuilder to carry him around the rest of his

37:10

bodybuilder. A bodybuilder. Yeah. And he try

37:12

to get the nuts. He was, like, shoot for the nuts.

37:14

Yeah. The guy would shoot him down so that he could get

37:16

nuts. What was the name of the body builder?

37:18

Oh, there's some

37:20

great name. We had Carl Weathers. We had we had Super

37:22

Dave Osborne. We had

37:24

Our buddy, Ed Begley, was so -- Oh,

37:26

I love you. -- hilarious. Yeah.

37:29

Yeah. Obviously, Henry Winkler, who's who's Obviously,

37:32

Henry -- Yeah. -- Scott Bayou, blah

37:34

blah blah.

37:36

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We really we gotta watch them all again. And we'll do

37:38

we'll do it with Sean. It'll be it'll be new to you,

37:40

Sean. I mean, it was a real embarrassment of

37:42

riches. Wasn't it? It

37:44

really was. Hey.

37:46

So Well, go ahead, Sean. Yeah. I was

37:48

gonna say when you're you're you're all like

37:50

Will was saying, always so funny. Always

37:53

working, by the way. And when

37:55

you're not working, what are you doing? Because III like to know what

37:57

rounds a person out. Mhmm. I

37:59

actually got

38:02

into making rope balls. Hang on. Oh,

38:04

I didn't get into that. Hey. Can I show

38:06

you? I'll show you a picture of a rope

38:08

A friend of mine a friend of mine.

38:12

A friend of mine, are you currently smoking you selling

38:14

it or just smoking it now? Just

38:17

the personal use. I

38:20

started I started doing them over the

38:22

pandemic because this this

38:24

my friend, Shauna, on the show, I do, mister has

38:26

been an anxiety on Disney plus Shout

38:29

out. She gave me one of

38:31

these as a wrap gift, and I was like,

38:33

oh, this is the coolest thing, and so I started

38:35

doing these over the pandemic. Oh,

38:37

yeah. So look, these are do you see them? Yes.

38:40

Let's see. Now,

38:42

rope, they'd look like a

38:44

lot of it here. another made out

38:47

of rope, really. And I really

38:48

it's incredibly therapy. Are they

38:50

malleable? Like, can you move them? And Yeah.

38:52

Yeah. And you and you paint them?

38:56

And and it's just like the best What is it what

38:58

like, what would you put in a roast? Just weed. A

39:00

lot of this weed. It's not a lot of

39:02

weed. A lot of my weed. and I just but it's like

39:04

a decorative bowl and it's like crochet. No.

39:07

It's like you you you

39:09

do like a disc and then you

39:11

kinda mold the rope as you're sewing it and it becomes a bowl and then you get

39:13

a leather so I got a leather pressed

39:15

-- Mhmm. -- to to wow. You're all in to

39:17

do these things. and

39:20

then you put a tag on there and and and I like to

39:22

give him his guess. Do you sell on these would you

39:24

sell maybe on Etsy? Do you have a little site?

39:26

Don't have an Etsy shop. I give

39:28

How about any farmer's markets that you go to? It's just now for

39:30

five dollar. And I It's sliced off a

39:32

piece of soap and sell that with

39:36

it. Hunk of soap

39:40

with your bowl,

39:44

ma'am. which Tony Hill. I love you so much. By

39:46

the way. Now does

39:48

Martell help with this, or does she

39:50

mock you? No.

39:52

She mocks me. Yeah. But she she got

39:55

she likes to do a paint like,

39:57

this kind of number this painting things and so

39:59

Paint my numbers. Yeah. Yeah.

40:01

And so we we had a table, and then I would do

40:03

that, and she would do that over the pandemic. And then

40:06

Loy is doing what? watching

40:08

her parents go up to be shaking your head. Yeah. Just I

40:11

kinda get it. I kinda wanna take up crochet

40:13

or something like that, you know, or like

40:15

I get like the like the

40:17

mindset of like really put on these headphones, I

40:19

listen to music, and it's just

40:21

super meditative. And it's also I'm

40:23

not a painter. I get to

40:25

paint the roads, so that's kinda fun. And it's just

40:28

very, like, soothing.

40:30

Yeah. That's fine. Sean, you should do that or or

40:32

or you could or tie, like, a stone to your your

40:34

leg and then and then go to the

40:36

burrito. And see if you see how many times you

40:38

can get back up to the surface.

40:40

Okay. You guys can tell me to

40:42

give me a lift? Hey, wait. So

40:44

Tony, so you're doing that. But

40:46

if you're not pressing

40:48

the leather -- Uh-huh.

40:50

what what else are you doing? Are you reading these days? Are you doing like,

40:53

are you watching Kelly? I watch

40:55

a lot of

40:56

YouTube. I'm

40:59

like like like it's arts and crafts

41:02

station. No. I okay. This is You were

41:04

so controversial. Tony, you were so

41:06

controversial. I'm not a big tea. I have to I

41:08

do like TV, but

41:10

sometimes

41:10

it's too heavy. You know, it's like I do

41:12

you watch comedy? I do some,

41:16

but Martell Martel watches, really, like, she loves

41:18

Ozark. She loves like hand handmates.

41:20

She likes heavy stuff. Helly. I

41:24

have It really it

41:24

affects me. So it's like it's like horror

41:26

movies when people are like, oh, when that

41:28

great, I'm like, no. Someone's after me now.

41:31

Right. It's like I can't I

41:33

can't detach. What about what about heavy reality shows? Like, these

41:35

guys are tired of me talking about

41:37

alone, like, the survivalist, shows.

41:40

I love it. I never got into It's too heavy, isn't it? It's it's that's a little but

41:43

here's the thing also is sometimes when these stories are

41:45

so heavy and people like, oh,

41:47

well, Tony, it's and Martell's like,

41:49

you're an actor, like, why can't you detach? because in my mind, I'm thinking, yeah,

41:52

that might not be heavy, but someone's had that

41:54

same experience

41:57

somewhere. Mhmm. And I'm

41:59

watching the visualization of that.

42:01

And it's it's too it's

42:03

too much paralyzing emphasize. I'll

42:05

watch paralyzing sometimes. I'll feel everybody's feelings for them. Yeah. But

42:07

it's like, I I there is on YouTube,

42:10

sometimes I watch compilation

42:12

videos of,

42:14

like, x factor auditions or I've watched this really.

42:16

The voice the voice it it but I only

42:18

wanna see when they win. I only wanna see, like,

42:20

when they turn the chair and they come

42:23

I don't wanna see any of the rejection. Yeah. I get it. Well, now

42:25

talk to me about about this thing because I battle

42:27

with this sometimes about exposing myself to --

42:29

Yeah. -- news. Yeah. You

42:31

know, like, news exposing yourself to news? To to

42:33

news because if somebody doesn't have a

42:36

great physical news,

42:39

like, if I I can take certain news, but other

42:41

news about people that are going through kids -- Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

42:43

-- especially kids, hunger, you

42:46

know, or, you know, kids that are sick or

42:48

something like,

42:50

how do you do you do you try to keep yourself --

42:52

Yeah. -- and not the head and the

42:54

sand or anything, but, like, I just

42:58

I'm It just kills me. It's too much. For me now

43:00

keep in mind, that's me. I I think other

43:02

people can really absorb it and can detach from you

43:04

guys out. Well, I thought you were speaking for everybody.

43:08

Yep. I'm speaking for him. I represent I represent him

43:10

in race. Sorry. But you had

43:12

you had Bill Marlon recently, and

43:14

I listened to he heard

43:16

the amount of absorbing I think he can have that kind

43:18

of detachment probably. Yeah. I just

43:20

can't shake it. So, like, I'll

43:22

do I'll do something called It's

43:26

like this, like, the skim. It gives, like, a sense, like, an email.

43:28

It'll give, like, the highlights of the

43:30

day. Yeah. Right. And so an overview

43:33

of the news. Yeah. So you can oh,

43:35

yeah. Exactly. And so Yeah. I watch David Mueller every night. Oh, yeah. Maybe

43:38

see. But

43:38

any deep dive and kind of

43:41

I just can't I it's

43:42

hard for me to let it go. feel like,

43:45

what what what else can I do? I

43:47

mean, I'll I'll I'll I'll donate or you

43:49

can be charitable or whatnot, but if if you get into all of

43:51

the real micro detail of

43:53

this suffering, it's See,

43:55

but that's but see, Jason got me into a loan. So I started

43:58

watching, dude, some Arctic

43:59

something. Yeah. So I

44:00

started watching, like, five, six

44:03

episodes. And and a lot of times we would watch it while we're eating dinner.

44:05

Right? It would put on -- Yeah. Sure. -- on the next episode.

44:07

Yeah. Well, they're scanning a squirrel. It's -- That's

44:10

exactly right. -- and the guy the

44:12

guy like hadn't eaten, like, one of the guys had eaten, like, seven days. finally

44:14

kills us, like, I don't know what a marsupial

44:16

badger. I don't know what the hell it

44:18

was. and he cooks it, charge

44:20

it. He's like, oh, and he eats the whole

44:22

thing. And and it's just really

44:24

and he cooks the hat and he eats the

44:27

hat. It's just so Disgusting. And then, of

44:29

course, he gets a stomachache. This is

44:31

Terry. Yeah. So you skipped seasons. You skipped you

44:34

didn't start I know where I know where that is. There's

44:36

no way that you

44:38

got there. started with a freeze Oh, I started that six. I started seeing the

44:40

six. Oh, man. Yeah. He started I did

44:42

the same thing. That's what got me hooked, and then I went and

44:44

I bought them all

44:46

over on what is it history or something?

44:48

They're on Discovery Plus men. I love Discovery Plus men. Would you watch do you

44:50

watch it or do you constantly imagine

44:52

what would I do and that's

44:55

to it. Like, how would I react? Well, I I

44:57

would encourage the helicopter pilot to not even

44:59

touch down. Are you kidding alone

45:01

is Jason's dream? Jason's dream he's by himself and he

45:03

doesn't have to eat. It's like the most amazing, you

45:06

know. I would completely fall apart.

45:08

I'm so soft. Yeah. I can't even put

45:10

together a

45:12

bath couple whoop. Yeah. Because the the contestants for Tracy, the contestants

45:14

get dropped off in a helicopter in the

45:16

middle of nowhere in the helicopter. Wait. Wait.

45:19

Wait. They have a camera. Something's not with them with a camera. They haven't Right. They've

45:21

got they're on themselves. Yeah. Yeah. That's part

45:23

of the battle. They they talk about a lot is is

45:25

as they go deeper into the

45:27

the day count, sometimes it's obviously the hunger, but also

45:29

it's the the solitude gets them and they start

45:32

feeling They do lose a lot of great

45:34

water weight I mean But

45:36

Tony's, you know I I have too I'm

45:38

too emotional about the animals in there, so that's why

45:40

it's hard to watch that. Not the humans, just

45:43

animals. I mean that you couldn't kill the animals to eat

45:45

them? Correct. What do you think what do you think

45:47

is happening when you're going over to Chinchin men? Yeah.

45:50

Yeah. I know. Well, I don't wanna see it. Like you're like

45:52

Jason's saying, I don't wanna see it. But I'll leave it

45:54

though, head in the sand. That's terrible. How

45:56

long are they out there for? Well, longer

45:58

you're out there, the the closer you get to the

46:00

big prize, I think the longest has been a hundred days. I may be but

46:02

average is probably, like, right around

46:04

seventy, eighty days, something like that. And

46:06

these guys lose, like, they they lose,

46:10

like, sixty pounds in three months. Two is

46:12

interesting. But how did

46:14

they how did they charge their phone? Okay.

46:16

Well, that's a great idea that you're

46:18

not having see that's the whole

46:20

point. It's the But to to film

46:22

themselves idiot, to film like, to film their

46:24

stuff. Oh, no. I'm idiot. Okay. Yeah. Let's

46:26

see. They have a pat they

46:28

have, like, they have like a

46:30

whole pack. They well, you know what I noticed? Like,

46:32

they they keep their food. They were like, oh, the guy's

46:34

like, oh, the mice got into my food. I was

46:36

like, you have that

46:38

airtight a box that keeps the camera equipment in. Put your fucking

46:40

foot in there. Do

46:42

they have enough

46:44

battery for for that

46:46

whole I don't know what their

46:48

battery count is, ma'am.

46:50

Okay. I don't know what's going on. It's a

46:52

hand crank battery that they've

46:54

got to save enough energy for Your

46:56

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back to the show. Tony,

51:44

what what is the you've done, like, a

51:46

laundry list of so many movies and tea

51:48

I've got it here in front of me, Sean, if you want

51:51

to what what what is one of, like, other than Veep and

51:53

arrested, of course, those two stand out, what's one of

51:55

the best experiences you've had, like, on

51:58

a set or with another actor

51:59

and who was that?

52:01

what are like,

52:02

if somebody said, pinpoint the

52:04

highlight other than arrested in Veep because we all

52:06

know how great and special those were. Mhmm.

52:09

Is there, like, a moment or a person that really kind

52:12

of wow. That totally

52:14

inspired you. I believe Unless it's an arrested

52:16

story involving

52:18

me. Good. of

52:18

I really side note.

52:20

I mean, it was rested was

52:22

so crazy

52:23

fun and

52:26

wild and overwhelming and all

52:28

that stuff. But and be but

52:30

aside from I would say, I did this

52:32

movie called Nine Days

52:34

with this director,

52:36

Ed Sonoda, And it's it was such a beautiful movie and

52:38

he was so good at what

52:40

he did and so calm and the movie is so

52:42

beautiful. And that's one of those that really I

52:44

think about

52:46

a lot. That's And I

52:48

just did being Riccardos with oh, yeah. Nicole

52:50

Kimman Javier, Bardell, we have

52:53

watching them really boldly

52:56

take over those iconic roles. That was

52:58

really cool to be on the sidelines and

53:00

watch that. Really cool. And tell me

53:03

what are you doing you said you're

53:05

doing a show over on Discovery Plus? That's Disney

53:07

Plus. It's a it's a mysterious

53:10

Benedict Society. It's based on a

53:12

children's series Well, that's here, I'm

53:14

doing a movie with my friend, Seth Worley,

53:16

called Sketch, but I

53:18

did that.

53:19

And

53:19

that's it's a it's a based on this series by a

53:21

guy named Trent Stewart, who wrote books. And it's just a

53:24

beautiful, beautiful story. And

53:26

I get to play twins. Do you really You

53:28

do? Yeah. I get to

53:28

play twins in the show. An evil one

53:30

and a good one? oh, he's he's complicated, but he's

53:33

like, yeah, the good one and, like, a one

53:35

that's had a lot of trauma. Like,

53:37

it's so popular. Well, wait, tell

53:39

me about that because there are but there are certain characters that you would

53:41

not play. Am

53:44

I right?

53:44

i right I

53:46

don't know if I think if

53:48

I'm honest, I think I probably would

53:50

have said that in the past. Like,

53:52

I would have drawn a line, but until

53:55

I hear the story. I don't know if I can

53:57

draw a line of like what I wouldn't play. You

53:59

know,

53:59

because it's Would it be would it would

54:02

it would it be based on whether

54:04

it's it's gratuitous or unredemptive

54:06

or, you know, like, could you play a

54:08

serial murderer?

54:10

Yeah. Okay. You answered that

54:12

really fast. But he's got a heart of gold. He's got a heart

54:14

of gold. Yeah. No.

54:16

III could, but it's like and even if it's

54:18

not redemptive, I mean, it's an

54:20

I mean, you look at Veep, for instance, because she wasn't

54:22

a serial killer, but you see that you see that equation of this is what

54:25

happens when you live a life of narcissism

54:27

and never giving away Right.

54:30

You end in isolation and you end up, you know, bitter.

54:32

Right. And so that's that

54:34

wouldn't be considered redemptive, but it's what

54:37

what a great should show that again. Yeah.

54:39

Show that equation. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. What are the what are

54:41

the I mean, you have done you're

54:44

so known and obviously

54:46

celebrated and you wanna words for

54:48

comedy? Very nice. Well, it's true. And

54:50

and you you've you've done these sort

54:52

of, you know, great

54:53

icon play these

54:55

great iconic characters immediate characters. Do you is there a part of

54:57

you that's like, okay, I really wanna do because

55:00

we ask this we talked about this when we have people on

55:02

the show all the time. Like, do you have

55:04

this thing in your sights of,

55:06

like, I wanna do a great this, like a great dramatic role that

55:08

really shows this. Is that

55:10

something that kind of burns inside you?

55:14

If

55:14

I'm honest, I

55:16

think when I was younger, I

55:18

was kind of I

55:20

would say that, but I I

55:23

think I had different motivations of wanting

55:26

to, I don't know, get attention or I don't know

55:28

what it was, but now I

55:30

think it's I don't know if you guys

55:32

feel this way, but the only you get things just get a little simpler. Yeah. And it's like and

55:34

so it's not necessarily about those

55:37

big markers. It's

55:40

about I would I would obviously love I

55:42

love working. But I like it's so much more about relationships. It's

55:44

so much more about connecting

55:48

and who you are on set.

55:50

But, I mean, obviously, good stories.

55:52

You wanna I wanna be careful as I

55:54

really believe the quality of the work experience. Right?

55:56

The By the way, to pull your

55:58

But if that's that's really the

55:59

stuff that is has

56:02

longevity to it. I mean, the work

56:04

obviously is good, but it's like

56:05

when you how you impact people on set

56:07

and all that stuff. I I don't

56:09

know. That's kind of as get older, where see the power in

56:10

that. I I feel I feel it on that. IIII

56:13

mean, like, you guys, I think it's like

56:15

so I mean, your

56:17

podcast is so fun and just how

56:20

you guys are with each other and the laughing

56:22

and just like and even like you

56:24

touring. I mean, that's like there's so

56:26

much so much beautiful,

56:28

like, life giving power to

56:30

you. Tony, I can't tell you. It's so it's so

56:32

crazy. I mean, you know

56:34

us. It's so weird that we're doing. But it's like, I think it's

56:36

so fun and just, like, you can see that

56:38

it gives you life. You know, like, that's, like, as you

56:40

get older, like, the shit that matters.

56:42

And it did come from that pure place that

56:44

you're talking about where if we had we

56:46

had no idea, dream,

56:49

or goal about the end result. It was all about, well, how can the

56:51

three of us stay better in touch during COVID? You

56:54

know? Sure. And and so we we

56:56

just kind of got a little bit

56:58

more official you know. Yeah. And but

57:00

the element that you have of the

57:02

surprise because, like, there's two of

57:04

you that come are coming in with an energy of, like,

57:06

what's coming. Right. And it's, like, that provides that,

57:08

oh, that oh, what gift are we gonna get today?

57:10

And not as, like, to build

57:12

up arrested, how

57:14

did feel like also unarrested. Like, we

57:16

never ever knew what the

57:18

the whole show was just one big surprise. We

57:20

never knew what Mitchell was gonna throw

57:22

at us. and it gives you this like it doesn't fit any

57:24

formula. It's always the surprises.

57:26

I I remember it's Tony, after

57:28

between those seasons one and

57:31

too, and we were all in we're in

57:33

a

57:33

hotel in Century City, and

57:36

we we just found out that we won those that

57:38

we got nominated remember that we were doing,

57:40

like, the press that morning early, all of us, and I

57:42

don't. Okay. Well, I do. And Tony and I

57:44

were you and I were staying at that

57:47

hotel right there in Century City. I remember this, and then Jason,

57:49

you came over the night before.

57:52

And early that morning, we went and did a bunch of press,

57:54

and that's where we

57:56

found out that we had won we've not

57:58

won, that we got

57:58

all these nominations for the

57:59

show. And

58:02

I remember So

58:03

we're downstairs. We're really, really

58:05

happy. And then

58:06

Tony, we were talking

58:08

to Mitch and Seth, and then we're gonna

58:10

walk back in and go. What's going this?

58:12

Well,

58:12

it just told me that I'm gonna lose my hand

58:15

to -- Yeah. -- to a seal.

58:17

And I remember and it was, like,

58:19

yeah, to a seal. for the

58:21

whole he's like, yeah, I guess. For the

58:23

whole season though. Yeah. I was

58:26

actually pretty I was pretty upset about

58:28

it. I know. No. since you were talking about

58:30

I remember now a picture of us

58:32

down there. Oh, you

58:33

knew? Yeah. We we were down there, and

58:35

it was III remember that from

58:38

a picture. But,

58:38

yeah, I remember when he told me that. And so you just said to Mitch,

58:41

you said so, Mitch, well, so we're gonna do another

58:43

season. No. I had an idea. I think I had

58:45

an idea, a really bad idea. I

58:48

might have even said. He wouldn't, like, would have, like, busters on,

58:50

like, dancing with the stars or something like or

58:52

something just really out there. And he's, like, yeah.

58:55

I'm thinking about having a steel bite off your

58:58

hand. And I was

59:00

like, and I just I

59:02

didn't even know how to

59:04

compute it. what is the have did did you ever have, like, a

59:06

massive injury on that or viep or anything

59:08

that's, like,

59:09

anything go

59:10

absolutely chaotic and

59:11

hurt yourself? No. For real. He

59:14

means for real. For real. For real.

59:16

Yeah. You gotta keep your knees bent with

59:18

Sean. His his questions. He's this guy is a is a real Yeah.

59:20

I love that. Well, to summarize.

59:22

These are award nominated

59:25

question questionnaire. Shines.

59:30

Yeah. Did I I

59:32

don't think so. And then start thinking about

59:34

your favorite theater story

59:36

and -- Yeah. -- crazy ever happened on stage. But

59:38

but let's hear about me. Anything ever? You ever

59:40

hurt yourself, Tony? No. But I do remember.

59:43

I He's

59:50

the best. Go ahead, Tony. Hey, Tony. Any any any

59:53

terrible memory if you wanna read out him? I don't know.

59:55

I don't know what to say. I'm trying to talk about

59:57

drama. Anything other than arrested

1:00:00

development. I know. I know. So sorry, Sean. This is this is

1:00:02

No. But you it's not a terrible question. Tony,

1:00:04

have you ever broken a bone? Honestly.

1:00:10

No. It's a real question. I have. Yeah. How'd you

1:00:12

do that? Dying a little bit. I stubbed my toe.

1:00:15

Oh, bless it. Walk

1:00:17

us through that. Was

1:00:20

it were you going for d p's in the

1:00:22

middle of the night? No. I was

1:00:25

I was stepping up from

1:00:27

my dog door. Are you okay? Say it again? I'm

1:00:29

stepping over I was stepping over my dog door. You

1:00:32

can't step over a dog door. You'd be go

1:00:34

No. Because it was locked

1:00:37

to keep the dogs in and then I stepped over and tripped

1:00:39

and and fell off. Doggate.

1:00:42

Doggate. Doggate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:00:44

Doggate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:00:46

Yeah. Okay. Alright. That's understandable. Any theater stories?

1:00:48

Any any horrible any

1:00:50

horrible theater stories? Yeah.

1:00:52

Yeah. Never forget a

1:00:54

lineup on aged on.

1:00:56

Well, I did.

1:00:58

I did. Well, you did that. Yeah.

1:01:00

You did that play with Molly, didn't

1:01:02

you, Chung. Molly Shannon. Yeah. Yeah.

1:01:04

But I did two years ago, I did AA1

1:01:06

man play in San Francisco at ACT

1:01:09

and a co wacky wacky

1:01:11

by Willie now. And I

1:01:14

was so petrified that

1:01:16

I was gonna forget a line. And I remember every

1:01:18

night -- Yes, man.

1:01:19

-- you know, you you got no

1:01:21

help. yeah,

1:01:21

just feeling like I was gonna forget everything. And

1:01:23

then by the grace of God, I just

1:01:26

III always had thankfully, someone was

1:01:28

offset in case I did,

1:01:30

but I But

1:01:30

I started memorizing, like, six months before because I was so panicked. I

1:01:32

was gonna forget a line. But

1:01:34

that makes me think, Jason,

1:01:37

I'll never forget

1:01:38

being on set because with lines, I

1:01:40

have to I have to kind of take some time

1:01:42

with them to absorb. I remember you

1:01:45

reading

1:01:45

the script the morning of and then getting

1:01:47

them. Is that correct? Like, you would just skim

1:01:49

the page and use, like, a crazy has a

1:01:51

crazy amount of time. My brain works for one thing

1:01:53

and it's that Willie's really well, Will's got

1:01:55

the Mary Lou Henry dates stuff down and

1:01:58

also he can remember line he can remember

1:02:00

lines. So

1:02:02

he's got two uses for his brain. I only have the one. I

1:02:04

mean, I was that show really

1:02:06

taught me was pretty

1:02:08

foundational

1:02:08

for me. I'm just kind of

1:02:12

a

1:02:12

lot of lessons from that show for me. Which is great. I'm

1:02:14

with you. Oh, me too, Mike. Yeah. I

1:02:16

think and I think for our listener, you

1:02:19

have to understand for us And,

1:02:21

Sean, you're saying and and you're sort of saying, let's

1:02:23

not talk about arrested too much. Oh, no. No. I'm But

1:02:26

first, it was such a seminal moment and

1:02:28

and Listen, I love hearing about it. If you

1:02:30

hear us, making it about ourselves or whatever. We're just sharing love because we're

1:02:32

so happy and giddy to see

1:02:34

Tony and it and it brings

1:02:36

up so many memories that are

1:02:38

really important big

1:02:40

memories -- Yeah. -- from our lives. And we had this shared

1:02:42

experience in our life that was a really -- Yeah.

1:02:44

-- big And we used to spend more

1:02:46

time together than our own families. And

1:02:50

just haven't been able to do that. Now, I I love hearing about it.

1:02:52

I really do. Yeah. It's also like it's also

1:02:54

I'm sure you can relate to this show. It's also you

1:02:56

think back to that time. I mean, almost, you know, almost

1:02:59

twenty years ago, not to be embarrassed of

1:03:01

kind of how, you know,

1:03:03

I would react to certain things or because I

1:03:05

was in this very

1:03:08

overwhelmed Thankfully, I was playing a very overwhelmed character, so that kind of worked.

1:03:10

But just like, I knew I had

1:03:12

never been on a studio lot. I had

1:03:14

never I didn't know

1:03:16

I just didn't know anything. I never had that much free food offered to me during the

1:03:19

day. I was I was just like, what's

1:03:21

-- Yeah. -- everything nothing

1:03:23

was computing. Yeah. You know? and

1:03:26

I would just walk around in your own parking space. Yeah.

1:03:28

And we have my own parking space

1:03:31

just to kind of And

1:03:33

that thing of, like, you give something so much

1:03:35

weight growing up of, like, that

1:03:37

that sitcom that weight and then when you get

1:03:39

it, you're like, Why am I still anxious? Why am I I

1:03:41

thought I was gonna feel differently? I was and

1:03:44

it's just from that Well, why

1:03:46

why why did you feel it's still

1:03:49

feeling just just because you felt that now that I

1:03:51

have it, now there's pressure to now

1:03:53

to deliver. Is that Well, I think

1:03:55

there's it's a it's a it's a it's a few things

1:03:57

and, you know, thank God for therapy, but like,

1:03:59

I

1:03:59

really don't think I was very present for most of my

1:04:02

life. I don't think I'd never

1:04:04

really I would always be looking

1:04:06

ahead of, like, well, that's coming. That sick

1:04:08

comes coming. That big thing's coming.

1:04:10

Yeah. And

1:04:10

then I got it and I had to go, oh,

1:04:12

crap. I because the thing is if

1:04:14

you're present and if you're in that time,

1:04:17

then when you get something, it's just kind of you,

1:04:19

it just kind of unfolds rather than carry this

1:04:21

all this weight. And I've said this several times,

1:04:23

and I apologize if anybody who's heard me babbled about it.

1:04:25

But it's that whole thing and, like, if you're not practicing contentment where you

1:04:27

are, you're not gonna be content when you get

1:04:29

what you want. And I

1:04:31

think

1:04:31

that really hit

1:04:33

me

1:04:33

on arrested, you know? Yeah. I think that

1:04:36

there's a very similar I was talking about this with

1:04:38

somebody the other day. You can't be at

1:04:40

you

1:04:40

I I try really hard and not perfectly. I

1:04:42

don't do it. I don't execute it perfectly,

1:04:44

but I really think about this idea that

1:04:46

I can't be at the effective circumstances.

1:04:50

and and meaning that my happiness can't be pegged

1:04:53

to something outside because

1:04:55

then it's your infrastructure because

1:04:57

it's gonna go up and down and nothing's in a straight

1:05:00

line. And you can't if I'm at the effect

1:05:02

of other things, I I have to it's

1:05:04

not like I'll see it. You know, I believe it

1:05:06

when I'll see it. you know,

1:05:08

it's almost like I gotta believe it and then

1:05:10

I'll see it. My happiness has to come from

1:05:12

here. Mhmm. And and it doesn't

1:05:14

matter if I actually whatever happens

1:05:17

outside of me is gonna happen.

1:05:19

Mhmm. Well, how do you how do

1:05:21

you guys avoid falling into

1:05:24

complacency or being

1:05:26

more comfortable than is healthy with

1:05:28

normalcy or mediocrity? Like, in

1:05:30

other words, how do you balance contentment

1:05:34

and also staying -- Yeah. --

1:05:36

ambitious and driven and

1:05:38

and have goals and prepared for

1:05:40

future and balance, I think, which is

1:05:42

you know, the How do you how do you know how do you know it is until

1:05:44

you have the the the clarity of

1:05:47

retrospective. Right? Yeah. And I think I think

1:05:49

that's a great question because

1:05:52

I'm glad you're really glad you asked because it's not that I'm not I'm it's not that

1:05:54

ambition or dreaming is wrong at all.

1:05:57

Mhmm. In our business, I

1:05:59

feel like there's subliminal

1:06:02

messaging of, like, you will have value when this

1:06:04

happens. Right. You will have

1:06:06

value if this big thing comes

1:06:08

into your life. Mhmm. And the

1:06:10

truth is my value before any of this happens, the exact same

1:06:12

as my value. Now your value, you

1:06:14

know, it's your value

1:06:16

doesn't change. And so I

1:06:18

think with ambition many times, what I did

1:06:20

is associated my value to

1:06:22

getting that. Yeah. But your

1:06:24

outward value as opposed to your

1:06:26

internal value. Into your More no. I

1:06:28

I connected it. Like, my without knowing

1:06:30

it, my internal value, I can go back

1:06:32

to that reunion and be like, hey, look what you make, you know, whatever, but

1:06:34

it's like my internal value

1:06:36

would be better if I got that stuff

1:06:38

when naturality that internal

1:06:40

value is the exact same. Yeah. Of course. But that's

1:06:42

not the message you hear, I think, in the business.

1:06:44

Does that make sense? Yeah. Sure. No.

1:06:46

Sure. Certainly because you get what? And it's

1:06:48

easy to follow. It's a trap. you can fall into it

1:06:50

very easily and it's very easy to

1:06:52

again sort of peg your --

1:06:54

Yeah. -- your your value, if you will,

1:06:56

that let's say, I'll

1:06:58

say happiness. to outside

1:07:00

things. Yeah. And you're also in this

1:07:02

business, you're also you're

1:07:04

constantly being asked, what's next? know,

1:07:07

what's next to you? What's a which is a great question. What's a great

1:07:10

question? But you kind of don't go up to a dentist

1:07:12

and say, what's next?

1:07:14

You know? True. But this is a unique this business is

1:07:16

unique in that, at least, for

1:07:18

actors and also directors, and I

1:07:20

guess anybody, it's very

1:07:22

a la

1:07:24

carte. Like, you don't share one job that lasts thirty, forty

1:07:26

years like a dentist would. It

1:07:28

is sort of you you're constantly getting hired

1:07:30

and fired because the jobs

1:07:32

come to an end. So Yeah. -- it a natural question, it is an annoying one to

1:07:35

have to But sometimes when you do a show, when

1:07:37

you do a show, it becomes much more sort

1:07:39

of a prefix, you know. even

1:07:42

say it. I wouldn't say it. I wouldn't

1:07:44

say annoying because III didn't I didn't

1:07:46

mean that. It's not annoying, but it's it's a

1:07:48

challenge for

1:07:50

me to not

1:07:50

always be looking to next to it. It's like -- Of course. -- it's

1:07:52

easy to fall into that when yeah.

1:07:54

It is a piecemeal together. Absolutely.

1:07:58

Is Loy at all interested in going

1:07:59

into this

1:08:01

business? She is not

1:08:04

if no. She's at, but she did just get cast

1:08:06

in steel magnifiers at her school

1:08:08

and she's not gonna be yeah. She's gonna she's

1:08:11

excited to do that. And so

1:08:13

but she wants to I mean, this could change, but she

1:08:15

really is interested in education. Oh, cool. Would you would you

1:08:17

encourage her in this business if she

1:08:19

did go that direction?

1:08:21

I

1:08:22

I would be lying if I have have to

1:08:24

do

1:08:25

a couple more therapy

1:08:27

lessons, but I you

1:08:31

know, it's the whole thing

1:08:31

of, like, you never wanna dictate your child's, you know,

1:08:33

wrath. So I would have to just I

1:08:36

would I would

1:08:38

be curious. That's the thing, like, one thing that we're with parenting

1:08:40

is is rather than being reactive,

1:08:42

be curious and just, you know,

1:08:45

be like, oh, well, because what I wanna do is

1:08:47

react and be like, well, let me teach you

1:08:49

these lessons. And I just need to

1:08:51

kind of shut up

1:08:53

and

1:08:54

just listen. Yeah. hard.

1:08:54

Yeah. I haven't seen her since she was,

1:08:57

I don't know, six maybe or

1:08:59

something like that. You

1:09:01

guys though made me laugh so hard.

1:09:03

Like, it is there's AII don't

1:09:05

know if you guys watch Sean, don't feel bad

1:09:07

because I don't watch the episodes myself much.

1:09:09

But I do every now and then, we'll

1:09:11

watch the blooper deals that they

1:09:13

gave us. Because that's the that's the stuff that I remember how much that is. And there's

1:09:16

a there's one

1:09:17

blooper of Will

1:09:20

and I coming

1:09:22

in and lies in the room, and

1:09:24

we have our rooms on. And

1:09:26

we couldn't even get any two

1:09:29

words out and just busted, but

1:09:31

it was such a organic breakdown that

1:09:33

it just gives me so much joy

1:09:35

all the time. there

1:09:39

was a ton of laughter on that. So I really really loved it. Isn't that why

1:09:41

we do what we do? I mean -- Yeah. -- those

1:09:43

moments? Yeah. I told you. I've I've said this to

1:09:45

David before, and I wanna say it to you just

1:09:47

so you can hear we've talked

1:09:49

about it, but that the hardest I've ever laughed actually

1:09:51

laughed in my life anywhere. This is

1:09:53

not just onset, just

1:09:55

anywhere at any time. was

1:09:58

that scene where it was supposed to be an

1:09:59

intervention for Lucile, and we

1:10:02

all end up getting drunk.

1:10:04

And you're on the piano with your hook.

1:10:06

and and David went and got

1:10:08

his his jean shorts. And he put

1:10:10

them in he's dancing next to you,

1:10:12

and I'm on the table, and Jason's got

1:10:14

the wig on. He's got Franklin's wig on. And it

1:10:16

was just like nobody said anything. It was just mayhem.

1:10:18

They just sort of went, like, Go mayhem. It was late on

1:10:21

a Friday night, and

1:10:23

I had tears And you were just and

1:10:26

Tony's going, Dave didn't need any new hammering on the piano. Like, buses are all happy, and David's

1:10:28

dancing next to Windows.

1:10:30

There's another thing. I was

1:10:36

Rrying. I remember driving home and, like, an hour later,

1:10:38

Mitch called me and I was in the car and

1:10:40

I picked up and I was still

1:10:42

actually laughing by myself.

1:10:44

That's so good. Tony, I mean, you guys

1:10:46

were there for the hardest laugh I've

1:10:48

ever had. Oh, man. That was so

1:10:51

so fun. Anyway, hi, Sean. Hey. So the show address development, it's on Fox,

1:10:56

what Thursday. Sunday's a day. nine thirty.

1:10:58

Catch it on Roku. Tony, this is way too much time. It's

1:11:00

already five forty five -- Even

1:11:02

though it's a bonus. -- it's

1:11:05

so crazy. We went over. We apologize. And again, to

1:11:07

our listener, I'm so sorry that we just you

1:11:09

had to hear

1:11:12

us just fun all over Tony and talk about the old

1:11:14

days, but I I loved it. I loved it. You just love you so much. You

1:11:16

just love them. You guys are the best.

1:11:18

Tony, you're one of the you're such

1:11:20

an incredible

1:11:23

incredible talent and and on guys.

1:11:25

But but even above and beyond that, you're

1:11:27

such a wonderful suite, just

1:11:29

a great user. Love you so much. Love you so much,

1:11:31

man. You're the same. Thank you very much, Alvaro.

1:11:34

Yeah. I will. Alright. I love you

1:11:36

too. Thank you, guys. Thanks.

1:11:38

You too. I love too. I'd love

1:11:40

to see you soon. Let's do it. Alright? Let's

1:11:42

do it. Hey, guys. We'll do a reunion. Let's do

1:11:44

it a reunion special. Right? A rested

1:11:46

special. Do you wanna say that? think

1:11:49

we said that on the would you guys do

1:11:51

it, by the way? I'm just I do anything for reston. Why wouldn't you do that? Always. Would

1:11:54

you do it, Tony? Yeah.

1:11:56

I go back to work tomorrow on

1:11:58

that show. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. Shadi, come on. Come join. Hi, Mitch. Hope your hope

1:11:59

your listening.

1:12:04

Tony.

1:12:04

Love you. Love you, Tony. Love you, guys. Thank you very much. Talk to

1:12:06

you soon. Thank you for doing this real great. Thank you for having me on. Bye, buddy.

1:12:11

the Bye, bone. Guys, sorry. Who

1:12:13

was

1:12:13

that? Who was your name? This

1:12:15

is Anthony. Jay, that was such

1:12:17

a great call having Tony Yeah.

1:12:20

That was great.

1:12:22

I love that, man. I I again, I apologize if it was to our our own little clubhouse, but

1:12:24

No. No. It's it's really, really

1:12:26

fun to be flying the well.

1:12:30

I could hear a story. I wasn't even there, and I

1:12:32

could hear stories like that all day long, just about,

1:12:34

like, who is on, what would happen? There's

1:12:37

also anything that he says I can listen to

1:12:39

because he truly is He's so genuine. I I think we say this a

1:12:41

lot on this show, but I think you'd be hard

1:12:43

for us to really find truly a

1:12:45

nicer person -- Yeah.

1:12:47

-- that he's we've interviewed. We've interviewed a

1:12:50

lot of nice people, but Tony is is just made of all good

1:12:52

stuff. I've interviewed

1:12:55

him a few times. on,

1:12:57

like, when I guest hosted, like, Ellen or I think

1:12:59

Kimball once or something. But yeah. He's well, hang

1:13:01

on with hang on with

1:13:03

him a few times.

1:13:05

Yeah.

1:13:05

So he's just so genuine and sweet and nice and we

1:13:07

he was he was so funny he would

1:13:10

make us

1:13:10

laugh and he was a great laugh

1:13:14

effort and you could really get him. I had

1:13:16

a I had a really good theater

1:13:18

story to share, but maybe I'll

1:13:21

do it next time. Let's hear it.

1:13:23

Is it about the time that you got an

1:13:25

audition for Bye bye

1:13:28

Perfect. Bye

1:13:30

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1:13:32

Bye. That's good.

1:13:34

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