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I'm not going to lie. I'm a
0:03
sucker for puzzles. Crosswords, wordle, escape
0:05
rooms. Which of my 90s kids
0:07
remember that impossible computer puzzle
0:09
game? Mine sweeper. You name
0:11
it. I'm in. And the
0:13
more challenging the better, right? Like
0:16
there's something nice about giving your
0:18
brain a little workout. Now that
0:20
I think about it, maybe that's
0:22
why I'm so fascinated by true
0:25
crime. It's sort of the ultimate
0:27
puzzle. a chance to put the
0:29
clues together, examine the evidence, and
0:32
try to figure out who done it.
0:34
I know I'm not alone here. These
0:36
things can be impossible to
0:38
resist. But I bet only
0:40
a handful of you took
0:42
a stab at this one
0:45
puzzle that took the internet
0:47
by storm back in 2012.
0:49
It was posted by a
0:51
mysterious group known only as
0:53
Secata 3301. Now I cannot
0:55
overstate how complex this game
0:57
was and the people who
0:59
tried to solve it were
1:01
totally addicted. It took over
1:03
their lives, even caused injuries
1:05
to some people. Nobody knew
1:07
what this game was for
1:09
or what Sikkida 3301 was
1:12
trying to accomplish by posting
1:14
it. But the people who
1:16
solved it found themselves
1:18
pulled into a strange
1:21
secretive organization with murky
1:23
intentions. Was it a
1:25
government agency, a cult,
1:28
or some twisted terrorist
1:31
group? People still aren't
1:33
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1:35
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1:38
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1:40
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2:07
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2:09
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2:11
those internet mysteries that has
2:13
me absolutely stumped. So today,
2:15
we're talking about a top-secret
2:17
organization called Saketa 3301, who
2:19
posted a series of puzzles
2:21
online beginning in 2012. The
2:23
people who solved their riddles
2:25
got an invitation to join
2:27
them. But even once they
2:30
were inside, they had no
2:32
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2:34
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2:36
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2:39
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2:41
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It's 2012. The iPhone 5
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has just been announced. Facebook
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is going public. Pinterest,
5:29
Twitter and Instagram are
5:32
all thriving. Meanwhile, one
5:34
little corner of the internet
5:36
is about to have its
5:38
own moment in history. A
5:41
website called Fourchan to
5:43
be specific. Now for those of
5:45
you who don't know, Forechan is an
5:47
online message board, kind of like read
5:50
it, except on Forechan, anything goes. Really,
5:52
there are basically no rules. People
5:54
can post adult content, hate speech,
5:56
even live stream violent crimes. It
5:59
is the Wild West. But in all
6:01
fairness, there's a lot of safer
6:03
work chats too, like the Science
6:05
and Math Channel. It has everything
6:07
from nerdy memes and games to
6:09
advice on what jobs to get
6:12
with a science or math degree.
6:14
But on January 4th, 2012,
6:16
a post appears that sort
6:18
of changes the landscape of
6:20
this forum entirely. Like a
6:22
lot of four-chan threads, it's
6:25
started by an anonymous user.
6:27
The post contains an image
6:29
of a black box with
6:31
text and an image of
6:33
a cicada all in white. And
6:35
it says, Hello, we are looking
6:38
for highly intelligent
6:40
individuals. To find
6:42
them, we have devised a
6:44
test. There is a message
6:46
hidden in this image. Find
6:49
it, and it will lead you on
6:51
the road to finding us. We
6:53
look forward to meeting the few
6:55
that will make it all the
6:57
way through. Good luck. 3301. A
6:59
puzzle like this is catnip for any
7:01
of those math and science
7:03
fans, especially when you say
7:06
you're looking for highly intelligent
7:08
individuals. Everyone is going to
7:11
want to prove that they're smart
7:13
enough to solve the puzzle.
7:15
And reportedly, thousands of
7:17
people answer the call, trying
7:19
to figure out what the
7:21
secret message is. Within hours of
7:24
this thread going up, there is a
7:26
brand new forum on Four Chance, specifically
7:28
for people to talk about this puzzle.
7:30
They can share what they've tried
7:32
already, what's working or not working,
7:34
and theories about who created the
7:37
original post. Apparently, some people
7:39
have already run the image through
7:41
programs that are designed to detect
7:43
hidden messages, but they turn up
7:45
nothing. There doesn't seem to be
7:48
anything hidden in the background of
7:50
the image either. But within a day...
7:52
Someone solves it. Sort of. Now fair
7:54
warning, this gets technical, but
7:56
I'm going to explain this in
7:58
the simplest way possible. Basically,
8:00
this guy who will be identified
8:02
by a pseudonym, Tech, he downloads
8:05
the image, then he opens it
8:07
in notepad, a program that
8:09
usually can't open images. So
8:11
instead he gets a string of
8:14
words, pretty much gibberish, popping up
8:16
on his screen. That's when he
8:18
sees the words, Tiberius, Claudius
8:21
Caesar, followed by other
8:23
random-looking numbers and letters.
8:25
Now, if you're a history buff, or
8:27
even if you're not, you probably
8:29
recognize this as the name of
8:31
the Roman Emperor. But here is
8:34
where it gets interesting. Caesar is
8:36
also the name of an ancient
8:38
code. During the days of Emperor
8:41
Julius Caesar, the military used it
8:43
to send secret messages. So
8:45
Tack assumes that the phrase,
8:47
Tiberius Claudius Caesar, is a clue.
8:49
and that he should use the
8:52
Caesar code to decipher the
8:54
random string of nonsense that
8:56
comes after. And it works. He
8:58
finds a URL for a
9:01
website. But when that page
9:03
loads, it doesn't say, great
9:05
job, you've solved it, not
9:07
even close. Instead, it shows
9:09
another image. This time, it's
9:12
in color. A wooden duck with
9:14
text that says, whoops, in all
9:16
caps. Just decoys this way. looks
9:18
like you can't guess how to
9:20
get the message out. Now at first,
9:22
it sounds like maybe this is
9:24
just another dead end. Except, a
9:27
group of other 4chan users
9:29
figures that maybe this is
9:31
actually just another puzzle. That's
9:33
where things stand for three more
9:35
days. People have found the duck image,
9:37
but they don't know how to solve
9:39
it. That's when a 15-year-old boy
9:42
named Marcus Warner gets into
9:44
the game. Now as you can probably
9:46
guess from his age, Marcus is a
9:48
high school student. He lives
9:50
at home outside of Roanoke, Virginia.
9:52
His parents are devout Catholics and
9:54
they are very strict, which means
9:56
that they keep close tabs on
9:58
what he does online. At least, they
10:00
think they do. Truth is, Marcus is
10:02
really good with computers. And while
10:05
his mom and dad don't approve of
10:07
him visiting websites like Fourchan, he still
10:09
finds a way to go behind their
10:11
backs and get on the site, all
10:14
while covering his tracks. So, Marcus
10:16
is a little late to the Secata
10:18
game, but that doesn't stop him from
10:20
stepping up to the challenge. And even
10:22
though he really knows his way
10:25
around programming and deciphering stuff, even,
10:27
Marcus is stumped at first. So
10:29
he jumps into the thread with
10:31
the other code breakers, eventually
10:34
forming a team with tech and
10:36
some other four-chan users. As far
10:39
as they can tell, there are
10:41
no rules against working together, so
10:43
they figure that they might as
10:45
well pool their resources and collaborate.
10:48
They even make a team name,
10:50
pound decipher. At one point, they
10:52
focus on the text of
10:54
the duck message, specifically the
10:56
second sentence. Looks like you
10:58
can't guess how to get the
11:00
message out. There are two words
11:02
that really stand out to pound
11:05
a cipher. The word guess and
11:07
out. That's because there is
11:10
a code-breaking program called
11:12
out-guess. So they plug this
11:14
duck image into that and
11:16
check for hidden messages. And
11:19
sure enough, there's another clue
11:21
in there. This time, a
11:23
list of numbers. which means
11:25
that the solution to the
11:27
puzzle is yet another puzzle.
11:30
That's going to be a
11:32
reoccurring theme for the rest
11:34
of this game. Each time
11:37
Marcus completes one puzzle, he
11:39
realizes there's another, then
11:41
another. Eventually, though, Marcus
11:43
finds a signature while
11:45
unraveling one of these
11:48
riddles. It says, Secada,
11:50
3301. So, Marcus wonders. Is he
11:52
getting close to figuring out the
11:54
author of these things? He still
11:56
doesn't know if Saketa is a single
11:59
person or... or if they're a
12:01
business, a government agency, a
12:03
secret society, or something else
12:05
entirely. But he is obsessed with
12:07
finding out. He pulls all-nighters,
12:10
dropping the important stuff like homework
12:12
and piano lessons. He's falling asleep
12:14
at all hours of the day
12:16
and missing out on time with
12:18
his family. Meanwhile, the cicada
12:20
puzzles are getting more complicated and
12:23
bigger with each and every step.
12:25
They're even leaving the internet and
12:27
popping up in real life. At
12:30
one point, players have to scan
12:32
QR codes that are posted on
12:34
lamp posts all over the world.
12:37
I mean, think major cities like
12:39
Miami, Paris, and Seoul. So whoever
12:41
created the codes has the ability
12:43
to get to all those cities.
12:46
Some players are even getting
12:48
phone calls, even though they
12:50
never publicly shared their numbers.
12:52
Other players seem to just
12:55
disappear without a trace. Like one
12:57
day, they're posting actively.
12:59
The next, they're just
13:01
gone. Maybe they solved it
13:03
and got whisked off to
13:06
wherever Secata 3301 is operating,
13:08
or maybe they were eliminated
13:10
for knowing too much. Now players
13:13
are starting to get nervous,
13:15
wondering if Secata is somehow
13:17
putting them in danger. It's
13:19
enough to scare some people off
13:22
entirely. One by one, the
13:24
code breakers drop out. While
13:26
thousands of people were trying
13:29
to solve the riddles at
13:31
first that number has dwindled
13:34
to a few dozen by the
13:36
end of January But Marcus
13:38
is still one of them.
13:40
He's determined to finish the
13:43
puzzles and see what's at the
13:45
end and on February
13:47
6th 2012 He does it
13:49
he cracks that final riddle
13:51
and that day he gets
13:53
an email from Cicada 3301
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16:32
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16:35
doesn't know what those values
16:37
are, let alone who these people
16:39
are. They've been so secretive
16:41
this entire time. After a
16:43
few emails back and forth,
16:45
Marcus gets a few answers,
16:47
though. Sakeda explains that they
16:49
care about privacy, they oppose
16:51
censorship, they fight tyranny, they
16:53
fight tyranny, they fight tyranny,
16:56
they fight tyranny, they fight
16:58
tyranny, and they don't do
17:00
anything illegal. But their responses
17:02
are pretty vague, and they don't
17:04
answer a lot of Marcus's
17:06
follow-up questions. However, on February 28th,
17:09
after almost a full month
17:11
of emailing, they do send
17:13
Marcus a link. It lets him
17:15
sign up for a
17:17
secret password-protected message board.
17:19
Even though Marcus doesn't know what
17:22
he's getting himself into, he
17:24
does go ahead and create
17:26
a profile. He thinks he's
17:28
about to meet the other
17:30
members of Secata 3301, except
17:32
all he finds is more
17:34
secrets and more mysteries.
17:36
There are some high-ranking Secata
17:38
leaders on this board, but
17:40
they don't use their real
17:43
names or explain who they
17:45
are. They do talk a little bit
17:47
about the group's history, though. Like
17:49
they say they were founded when
17:52
a few important people teamed up
17:54
to promote their values and again
17:56
those goals and values are pretty
17:59
big unclear is that they
18:01
have something to do with privacy,
18:03
but also with sharing information freely.
18:05
He also learns that up
18:07
until recently, whenever Secata recruited
18:10
new members, they relied on
18:12
personal referrals. Existing members only
18:14
brought in people they knew
18:16
personally. People they thought would
18:18
be a good fit and were trustworthy.
18:21
Except recently, they realized they
18:23
needed members who were more
18:25
computer savvy, who understood the
18:27
ins and outs of programming.
18:29
which is why they posted all of
18:32
those puzzles online to expand their
18:34
circle and bring in the best
18:36
of the best. Which just brings
18:38
a little false to Marcus? In
18:40
his mind you wouldn't be able
18:42
to design those super complicated
18:44
puzzles in the first place
18:46
without a pretty strong tech
18:48
background. So he thinks Sikata
18:50
must already have some excellent
18:52
programmers, which begs the question,
18:54
why do they need more?
18:57
There's one other key
18:59
piece of information that Marcus
19:01
learns. Apparently, Sakada keeps
19:03
their inner workings very secret,
19:06
even from its own members.
19:08
Nobody knows for sure how
19:10
many of them there are, or
19:13
what everyone is up to. Instead,
19:15
the organization is broken
19:17
up into little
19:19
subdivisions called broods. So
19:21
members might know who is in their
19:23
own brood. But they don't know how
19:26
many broods there are, total, or what
19:28
other broods are up to. Now all of
19:30
the people in this one particular
19:32
online forum are Marcus's brood. There
19:35
are roughly 20 of them, and
19:37
Marcus recognizes about half of the
19:39
username. A ton of the new recruits
19:41
were part of Pound Decipher. So
19:43
there Marcus is friends. Some he
19:45
knows well enough to have their
19:47
phone numbers, and others he knows
19:49
nothing about. At first, they're all
19:52
active on the forum, waiting for Secata
19:54
to tell them what they're supposed to
19:56
do next. But eventually, the
19:59
leaders say Marcus... and the rest
20:01
of the brood can decide for
20:03
themselves what their next move is.
20:05
As long as it is aligned
20:07
with those very vague values I
20:09
mentioned earlier, it is up to the
20:11
brood on how they want to spend their
20:14
time. All they have to do is
20:16
come up with an idea, get the
20:18
okay, and then they have total freedom
20:21
to move forward however they want to.
20:23
It's almost like another puzzle.
20:25
Figure out what we want you to
20:27
do and then do it. Will Marcus
20:30
and his brood come up with
20:32
a pretty interesting project? It's
20:34
called Secata Anonymous Key Escrow
20:36
System or Cakes. In very
20:39
simple terms, it's a program
20:41
that will make it easier
20:43
and safer for whistleblowers to
20:45
leak information online. So Marcus
20:47
and the rest of his brood
20:49
go to Secata, explain what it
20:51
will do, how it will work,
20:53
and Secata's like, sounds great, go
20:55
make it. Now, interestingly,
20:58
3301 doesn't give them money or
21:00
any real resources. It's all on
21:02
Marcus and his brood to make
21:04
cakes a reality, in their own
21:06
time, for free. Occasionally, secata leaders
21:09
will pop in and give advice
21:11
and feedback, but other than that,
21:13
it's not clear what the group
21:15
even offers, Marcus or the others.
21:17
Honestly, they could do this work on their
21:20
own if they wanted. But at this
21:22
point, they're in so deep, I
21:24
guess they think maybe the payoff
21:26
is answers, right? Which may be
21:28
why Cakes becomes Marcus's new
21:30
obsession. All those hours he used
21:33
to spend solving puzzles now
21:35
goes into writing code for
21:37
the program. Problem is, he
21:39
still has no idea how this
21:41
software will be used when it's
21:44
finished. So fast forward a little,
21:46
a few weeks go by, then
21:48
months. And as it turns
21:50
out, nobody wants to spend
21:52
their time writing a computer
21:55
program for mysterious overlords,
21:57
for free. So people quit, one
21:59
by one. of 2012 or early 2013,
22:01
Marcus's brood is down to just
22:04
him and one of his friends.
22:06
Finally, Marcus has to
22:08
go to Saketa 3301 leaders and
22:10
basically say, look, we can't do
22:12
this on our own. If you
22:14
want to see cakes get finished,
22:16
we at the very least need
22:18
more people. And the good news
22:21
is, the higher-ups listen. They launch
22:23
a new puzzle in January of
22:25
2013. It goes up on the
22:28
4th. One year to the day
22:30
since the very first one appeared
22:32
on 4chan by the way. And
22:34
this time, Marcus actually gets to
22:37
help design some of those
22:39
puzzles. But a few hours
22:41
before their new game launches,
22:43
another anonymous user posts on
22:46
a message board. And there, they
22:48
drop a bombshell about the
22:50
group. This person writes, I was
22:52
a part of what you call
22:55
3301 slash Secata. for more than
22:57
a decade. And I'm here to
22:59
warn you, stay away. This
23:02
is a dangerous organization. Now
23:04
this poster says that CEDA
23:07
doesn't actually care about
23:09
privacy or anti-censorship at
23:12
all. It's just something
23:15
the group says in order
23:17
to make themselves look good.
23:19
The truth is, according to
23:21
this poster, that CEDA is
23:23
a cult. They only pretend to
23:26
care about science to trick
23:28
people into joining. The user says
23:30
that instead of science, Saketa
23:33
actually believes in something called
23:35
a global brain. The idea
23:37
is that each human being
23:39
is like an individual neuron.
23:42
When you put all of them
23:44
together, they form a more
23:46
powerful, more intelligent mind. One where
23:48
everyone's working toward one
23:51
single purpose. Apparently,
23:53
they worship the global brain, like
23:56
a god from what I can
23:58
tell. They also believe that... The
24:00
ends justify the means. In
24:02
other words, they'll do anything
24:04
to achieve their goals. There's
24:06
no such thing as right and
24:09
wrong. In fact, reality itself
24:11
doesn't exist. The whole post goes
24:13
on for pages, and it might be
24:16
tempting to shrug all of this off,
24:18
but the poster backs up a
24:20
lot of their claims with facts.
24:22
They get into Sakada's history
24:25
and their recruitment
24:27
practices. They say a lot of
24:29
the same things the leaders told
24:32
Marcus in that secret forum.
24:34
Except, according to this person,
24:36
many of those initial members
24:38
were part of the military.
24:40
Now, is it possible this poster
24:43
was making everything up? Sure.
24:45
But there are so many details that
24:47
are consistent with what Marcus
24:50
has already been told. They
24:52
seem to really know what
24:54
they're talking about. Which
24:56
is why there's a lot of
24:58
debate about this post, known in
25:01
these circles as the warning. Some
25:03
people take it seriously, others
25:05
don't. As for Marcus, he
25:08
doesn't believe the warning. In
25:10
fact, he thinks it's a test.
25:12
That Sakada leadership is
25:14
spreading misinformation about themselves.
25:16
This will drive off
25:19
code breakers who are
25:21
more gullible or conspiracy-minded.
25:23
On top of that, he trusts
25:26
Secata and thinks they're doing
25:28
good work. In his mind, Cakes is
25:30
going to make the world a better
25:32
place. Even if Secata 3301 has
25:34
some weird beliefs, everyone will still
25:36
be better off if he sticks
25:39
around. All he needs is someone to
25:41
help him. And he figures, once
25:43
this latest round of recruitment is
25:46
over, he'll have plenty of new
25:48
broodmates to work with. Except, after
25:50
the new puzzle is posted, Nobody
25:53
makes it in. Even those who
25:55
say they've solved it. But for
25:57
whatever reason, they never got the
26:00
to join. Maybe they're lying,
26:02
maybe they didn't finish the
26:04
game, or maybe Secata decided
26:06
they didn't want them for
26:09
whatever reason. Regardless,
26:11
Marcus is out of luck. He is
26:13
pretty much on his own. And by
26:15
this point, he is worn out.
26:17
He's been trying to keep this
26:19
Cakes program afloat with
26:21
just one other person for
26:23
a while, and he still
26:25
doesn't know who he's actually
26:27
working for working for. So
26:29
he stops visiting the forum
26:32
and sort of backs away
26:34
from the project as a whole.
26:36
Then about two months later in
26:38
March, he gets a text
26:40
from his one and only
26:42
other active brood mate. According
26:45
to this friend, they've both
26:47
been kicked out of Cicada.
26:49
They're not needed anymore.
26:51
Sure enough, when Marcus tries to
26:53
go back to that forum,
26:55
he finds it's offline. Someone took
26:58
the page down. He can't even
27:00
go back and look at his
27:02
old messages anymore. There isn't even
27:05
a note to explain what happened
27:07
or why Marcus is apparently
27:09
on the outs. And that's the
27:12
last contact he ever has with
27:14
anyone in Secata 3301. They never
27:16
come out and explain who they
27:18
are, or what their actual goals are.
27:20
Not a peep. Marcus spent
27:22
a year of his life working for
27:25
this group. He sacrificed his
27:27
future. lied to his parents
27:29
and he still doesn't have
27:31
any answers. All he can try to
27:34
do is make sense of the
27:36
situation by going public with his
27:38
story. In January of 2015
27:40
he gives an interview to
27:42
a reporter from Rolling Stone
27:45
and he tells him everything. That's
27:47
the only reason we know this
27:49
much about Secata today. But even
27:51
now, at 27 years old, Marcus
27:54
still doesn't know who or
27:57
what Sikkada 3301 is. He
27:59
doesn't... know whether he made a
28:01
powerful enemy like the leader of
28:03
a government agency or a criminal
28:06
group or if the warning was
28:08
right and he spent over a
28:10
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28:12
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29:29
questions people are still asking
29:31
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29:33
If we want to answer that
29:35
question, we should probably
29:37
start with the biggest,
29:39
most widespread allegations against
29:42
them. That theory from The Warning
29:44
Post. Is Secata 3301 really a
29:46
cult that believes in a global
29:48
brain? Do they reject ideas of right
29:51
and wrong and say there's no
29:53
such thing as reality? Now at
29:55
first glance, it does make sense.
29:57
Especially when you look at some of the
30:00
thing Sakada has said about itself.
30:02
Earlier, I mentioned how Marcus had
30:04
a lengthy back and forth with
30:06
them when he was recruited to join.
30:09
He was trying to get a sense
30:11
of what the organization was about,
30:13
and he was given a lot of
30:15
non-answers. But at one point, they did
30:18
say this. Quote, we are a group of
30:20
individuals who have proven
30:22
ourselves much like you
30:24
have by completing this
30:26
recruitment contest. And we are
30:28
drawn together by common beliefs.
30:30
A careful reading of the
30:32
text used in the contest
30:35
would have revealed some of those
30:37
beliefs. That tyranny and
30:39
oppression of any kind must
30:41
end. That censorship is wrong
30:43
and privacy is an inalienable
30:46
right." End quote. So let's take
30:48
them at their word. Let's assume
30:50
that Sakada's real beliefs are
30:52
clear if you look at
30:54
the puzzles closely enough. Some
30:56
of the games included references
30:59
to different books, poems,
31:01
and other bits of culture. You
31:03
need to be familiar with a lot
31:05
of classic art to be able to
31:07
solve some of their riddles. And
31:10
the specific works they reference
31:12
have a lot of the
31:14
same themes. Empowerment, self-reliance, becoming
31:17
a better version of yourself. For
31:19
example, in the 2013 puzzle, they
31:21
built a step inspired by author
31:24
Alister Crowley. That name might ring
31:26
some bells, because Crowley was a
31:28
pretty culty figure in his own
31:30
right. He was born in 1875,
31:32
but really became famous around the
31:34
turn of the century. At that
31:36
time, he belonged to a ton
31:38
of secret societies and religious
31:40
organizations. He even started a
31:43
couple on his own. He
31:45
also claimed that he could
31:47
communicate with other worldly spirits
31:49
and do magic. Remember
31:51
how the warning said Secata
31:53
only pretended to care about
31:55
science? If that's true, then the Crowley
31:58
puzzle might hint at what they
32:00
really believe in. Using occult
32:02
practices to elevate yourself,
32:04
maybe even to join
32:07
a spiritual global brain.
32:09
That might sound like a
32:11
big leap, but let's look
32:13
at another secata puzzle. It
32:15
used an essay by Ralph
32:18
Waldo Emerson called Self Reliance.
32:20
I think you can guess what
32:22
it's about based on the name.
32:24
However, the 3301 cipher built on
32:27
Emerson's themes. I'm going to read
32:29
a quote from that puzzle. The
32:31
work of a private man who
32:34
wished to transcend, he trusted himself
32:36
to produce from within. So there
32:38
are those same themes from the
32:40
warning post again, references to
32:43
becoming something bigger than yourself,
32:45
literally transcending. And that can
32:48
sound pretty cultish. Many cults
32:50
promise to help make people
32:53
better versions of themselves. Then
32:55
instead, sometimes isolate their victims and
32:58
require members to fork over lots
33:00
of money. And speaking of
33:02
isolation, let's go back to the
33:04
initial recruitment around 2012. At one
33:06
point, while the puzzles were still
33:08
out there, waiting to be solved,
33:11
Sikkida actively warned people not to
33:13
collaborate with one another. This was
33:15
after Pound Asifer had been formed
33:17
and apparently they weren't the only
33:19
team out there. So to stop
33:21
people from working together to
33:23
solve the puzzles 3301 posted
33:26
on the message board saying
33:28
quote You've shared too much to
33:30
this point. We want the best
33:32
not followers So that could
33:34
be interpreted as an early attempt
33:37
to isolate the people who wanted
33:39
to join They wanted the
33:41
brood to include people who
33:43
didn't have a lot of
33:45
online relationships or support networks
33:48
Maybe The truth is the only
33:50
evidence that their occult comes from
33:52
the warning Marcus has never said
33:54
that they tried to talk to him
33:56
about God or group minds They also
33:58
never asked him for money. But
34:01
they didn't hand out anything either.
34:03
They were having Marcus and
34:05
his brood fork up their own
34:07
time and resources to make software
34:10
for them. So who can say for sure?
34:12
But that got me thinking. Maybe
34:14
Marcus was right when he
34:16
said the warning post was
34:19
a disinformation campaign from Secata
34:21
themselves, which brings me to
34:23
this next theory. That Secata
34:25
3301 is actually a recruitment
34:28
tool. One that's bringing new
34:30
employees in for the FBI, the
34:32
NSA, the CIA, or some other
34:35
government agency. In fact, we know these
34:37
groups have used puzzles exactly
34:39
like CEDAs to recruit new
34:42
members before. In April of 2014,
34:44
the U.S. Navy released a bunch
34:46
of puzzles on their Facebook page
34:48
and some related Twitter accounts. Users
34:51
could solve codes and break ciphers
34:53
to complete the challenge. In the end,
34:55
10 people were named as winners and
34:57
the Navy used the whole game as
35:00
a way to build good PR. Then
35:02
in May of 2014, the
35:04
United States National Security Agency,
35:06
or NSA, tweeted out a
35:08
series of cryptic codes. They said
35:10
anyone who solved them could find
35:13
out more about job openings. Except,
35:15
in both of these cases, it
35:17
was clear from the get-go who
35:19
was posting these riddles. I mean, they
35:22
literally came from the at-NSA career's
35:24
Twitter account and one of the
35:27
Navy's Facebook pages. There were
35:29
no secret chat rooms or anonymous
35:31
4chan posts. One time, a
35:33
reporter even asked a CIA
35:35
spokesperson if they were behind
35:37
the Secata 3301 puzzles, and
35:39
the spokesperson denied it. Of
35:41
course, it's the CIA we're talking about,
35:43
so in theory, they could have been
35:45
lying. The CIA or the NSA
35:48
could have still posted the Secata
35:50
3301 puzzles. But why would they
35:52
deny using a recruiting tool that
35:54
was so dang successful? To me,
35:57
this says Secata has a good reason
35:59
to hide. their identity, especially if
36:01
they were terrorists or
36:03
criminals. And actually, it sounds
36:05
like someone may have caught them committing
36:08
a crime at one point. In
36:10
2015, a local government agency
36:12
in Chile publicly said that
36:14
Sikkida was running a crime
36:16
ring in their country. Supposedly,
36:18
the Chilean police learned that someone
36:21
had created a fake website impersonating
36:23
a bank's login screen. When people
36:26
went to this wrong URL,
36:28
they entered their login information.
36:30
Then the hackers kept those
36:32
usernames and passwords so they
36:34
could get into people's real
36:36
accounts. Whoever built this website also
36:38
gained Google's algorithm, so if people searched
36:40
the name of the bank, the first
36:42
hit was that fake page, not the
36:45
real one, which is terrifying. Once the
36:47
police found out what was going
36:49
on, they did some investigating. They
36:51
identified and busted a few individuals
36:54
who were behind the website, and
36:56
they found out that these people
36:58
were apparently part of a group
37:00
called Secata 3301. So in July
37:02
of 2015, they publicly warned the people
37:04
of Chile to watch out for the
37:07
scammers in Secata, who may have been
37:09
running other online scams too. But right
37:11
after they released this information, Secata
37:13
put out their own reply. They
37:15
said they had nothing to do
37:17
with the fake website. Some other
37:19
criminals were just using their
37:22
name without their permission.
37:24
And in fairness, I have to
37:26
say, this kind of fake log-in
37:28
screen hoax is really common. You
37:30
don't need to recruit the top
37:32
coders in the world to pull this
37:34
off. So I do think it's
37:36
possible the Chilean hackers had nothing
37:39
to do with Secata. Or if
37:41
they did, it wasn't authorized by
37:43
Secata's higher-ups. That said, I
37:46
don't think we'll ever have
37:48
the answers. It's been more
37:50
than a decade since Sikata
37:52
posted their last recruitment puzzle, but
37:54
they haven't brought in any new
37:56
members as far as we know. Maybe
37:58
Sikata 3301... are government agents
38:01
or criminals or a
38:03
small group of tech
38:05
savvy individuals who just
38:07
want to make the world a
38:09
better place. Maybe they're a cult.
38:12
Who knows? But the answer might
38:14
be out there now, just waiting
38:16
for someone to find it.
38:18
Because you see, in 2014,
38:20
Sakata launched one final recruitment
38:23
drive. This involved a massive
38:25
puzzle that still hasn't been
38:27
solved today. 11 years later.
38:29
And since it still hasn't
38:31
been cracked, nobody can say for sure
38:33
what it says. I mean, it might
38:36
have all the answers we've been looking
38:38
for. Or it might just lead
38:40
to even more mysteries that have
38:42
to be solved. And that's why
38:44
this whole story fascinates me.
38:46
Earlier in this episode, I
38:48
mentioned how much I love puzzles.
38:51
There is something so satisfying about
38:53
working hard at something for a
38:55
few hours and then seeing the
38:58
solution, like... Knowing the game is
39:00
complete. But when you try to
39:02
solve a riddle and only end
39:04
up with more riddles, it
39:06
is frustrating, sometimes
39:09
even unsettling. But
39:11
it's also one of the
39:13
reasons I make this show. Because life
39:15
is full of puzzles too.
39:17
Do aliens exist? How about
39:20
magic or ESP or ghosts?
39:22
Which conspiracy theories
39:24
are true? Even if we don't
39:26
know the answers. The
39:28
truth is still out
39:30
there somewhere. And if
39:32
we can just crack
39:34
the code, maybe someday
39:37
we'll have the answers
39:39
to all of
39:41
life's supernatural mysteries
39:43
too. This is
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