0:01

You guys I am deep in the

0:04

Barbie phase with my daughter right now

0:06

They're all over all the time staring

0:08

at me from every angle But

0:10

at least they're cute beautiful

0:13

even But I don't know if you've

0:15

ever seen the things our

0:17

parents and grandparents used to

0:19

play with some of those toys make

0:21

me think like how the heck did

0:24

you sleep at night with this thing

0:26

staring at you from the corner of

0:28

your room? Like what were toy makers

0:30

thinking back then? It's no wonder

0:33

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0:35

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0:37

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0:41

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0:48

behind Annabelle the doll. In

0:50

the 1970s Annabelle's owners

0:52

had some pretty

0:55

terrifying experiences with the

0:57

doll. Like disturbing noises, finding

1:00

creepy notes. even receiving

1:02

injuries from her. That

1:04

is, until she was eventually

1:07

turned over to a

1:09

museum. And that's when

1:11

Annabelle got more powerful.

1:13

Those who came in

1:15

questioning her abilities left

1:18

as believers, and those who

1:20

came in mocking her sometimes

1:22

would end up dead. I'm

1:25

Ashley Flowers, and this is

1:27

so supernatural. Aloha

1:39

friends, I'm Rasha Peccarero. And

1:41

I'm Yvette Gintile. Now Yvette,

1:43

you know that I'm a

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so some of these topics

1:49

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1:51

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1:53

than this one. How are

1:55

you feeling about today? Yeah,

1:58

this one is definitely eerie.

2:00

Growing up, I didn't have

2:02

a Raggedy Ann doll. Instead,

2:04

I had a lot of

2:06

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2:09

think Raggedy Ann kind of

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2:13

even back then. But I

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Rosh? Good memory. I did

2:19

have one growing up, and

2:21

while I do have some

2:23

faint memories of playing with

2:25

her, those memories are nothing

2:27

like today's story. Only they

2:30

realized that the doll, which

2:32

was said to be possessed

2:34

by the spirit of a

2:36

little girl, could actually move

2:38

around, make objects appear out

2:40

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2:42

people. But even when they got

2:45

rid of the doll, its reign

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in Dolby. Okay, Rasha, I

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have a question for you. What

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is the creepiest gift that you've

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5:17

that comes to mind for me was

5:19

something that was given to me by

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my father. Now it's not something you'd

5:24

typically think of as a creepy

5:26

gift, per se, but creepy things

5:29

happened with this particular gift. Okay,

5:31

I gotta know, you gotta tell me about

5:33

this story. So it's a lucky cat,

5:35

it's black, it's really small, and

5:37

we have several in our house,

5:39

so I'm not thinking that it's

5:41

creepy because it's a lucky cat.

5:43

It's a Hawaiian tradition, we have

5:45

them for luck, but my dad gave

5:48

this one to me a long time

5:50

ago, and of course I'm not gonna

5:52

get into it today, but I don't

5:54

have a relationship with him. So I

5:57

wanted to get rid of that particular

5:59

lucky cat. back into the house

6:01

after I threw it out in

6:03

the garbage. Vanna swears that she

6:05

didn't go back into the garbage

6:07

and bring it back into the

6:09

house and Laylani was too little

6:12

to even contemplate going into the

6:14

garbage. So I have no idea

6:16

how it reappeared, but needless to

6:18

say, I still have it in

6:20

my house to this day because

6:22

I'm too creeped out to throw

6:24

it out again. Okay, well, I

6:27

definitely don't have anything that creepy,

6:29

but many years ago mom gave

6:31

me... This flip Wilson doll, and

6:33

if you don't know who he

6:35

is, he was a legendary black

6:37

comedian. One of his most famous

6:40

roles was playing a woman named

6:42

Geraldine. So this doll, one side

6:44

was him as flip Wilson as

6:46

a man, and the other side

6:48

was him dressed up as Geraldine.

6:50

And even though it was really

6:52

funny, I think it's probably the...

6:55

I don't even know if I

6:57

would say creepiest, but the strangest

6:59

toy that I ever got. But

7:01

look, you know, I don't want

7:03

to come across as I'm grateful

7:05

because for the most part, I'm

7:07

usually pretty happy with the gifts

7:10

people get me, especially the ones

7:12

that you can tell really come

7:14

from the heart. Well, today's story

7:16

is also about a gift, but

7:18

this one didn't seem to come

7:20

from the heart. Honestly, if anything,

7:22

it seemed like it was from

7:25

the depths of hell. It all

7:27

started in the spring of 1970.

7:29

Two women who we know only

7:31

Astana and Angie. were living in

7:33

a small apartment somewhere around New

7:35

Haven, Connecticut. They were also in

7:37

nursing school together, so as you

7:40

can imagine, they were pretty close.

7:42

Plus, Donna and Angie had a

7:44

lot to look forward to. Their

7:46

graduation was coming up, and Donna

7:48

was about to turn 28, which

7:50

is why her mom swung by

7:52

their place one afternoon with a

7:55

pretty interesting birthday gift. A Raggedy

7:57

Andal. And for those of you

7:59

who don't know or don't remember.

8:01

Raggedy Ann dolls have thick red

8:03

yarn for hair and they have

8:05

a stitch triangle nose, unlike some

8:08

other dolls with plastic or porcelain

8:10

heads, they're completely stuffed. So they're

8:12

supposed to be super snugly. That

8:14

was actually a big reason why

8:16

they were so popular when they

8:18

hit the market back in 1918.

8:20

Plus, you have to admit, the

8:23

goofy hair and the little dress

8:25

are kind of cute. Well, as

8:27

we all know, trends repeat themselves,

8:29

right? And in the 1970s, when

8:31

Donna and Angie's story takes place,

8:33

nostalgia got a hold of people.

8:35

Raggedy Ann was suddenly flying off

8:38

the shelves again. The New York

8:40

Times even reported on the comeback,

8:42

which was probably why Donna's mom

8:44

thought it would make the perfect

8:46

birthday gift. Although, if you're asking

8:48

me, I feel like that may

8:50

be a little odd for a

8:53

28-year-old woman. I was thinking the

8:55

exact same thing, but, you know,

8:57

it was a collector's item, so

8:59

maybe that's why her mom got

9:01

it. And because the doll was

9:03

so popular at the time, Donna

9:05

and Angie even decided to make

9:08

it a part of their home

9:10

decor. They sat it on their

9:12

sofa, and it became kind of

9:14

like a conversation piece whenever friends

9:16

stopped by. But shortly after receiving

9:18

the doll, Donna noticed something unsettling

9:20

about it. Donna was studying in

9:23

her bedroom one afternoon while Angie

9:25

was out. When she went into

9:27

the living room to grab a

9:29

book, she saw the doll sitting

9:31

in its usual spot on the

9:33

sofa, except its arms were lifted

9:35

over its head, rested against the

9:38

back of the couch, almost like

9:40

it was relaxing. Donna thought maybe

9:42

Angie had positioned the doll that

9:44

way, like as a joke. And

9:46

even though she thought it was

9:48

weird that she hadn't noticed it

9:51

earlier, she just brushed it off

9:53

and went back to her room.

9:55

A little while later, when she

9:57

came back out again, Donna noticed

9:59

that the doll's arms were back

10:01

down by its sides, and its

10:03

legs were crossed. Andy still wasn't

10:06

home, so this really freaked Donna

10:08

out. She ran back to her

10:10

room, shut the door, and didn't

10:12

come out until she heard Andy

10:14

return a little. little while later.

10:16

Except, get this, when Angie got

10:18

home, the doll was back to

10:21

its usual position. It was sitting

10:23

on the couch with its arms

10:25

by its side and its legs

10:27

straight out in front. When Donna

10:29

asked Angie if she had been

10:31

repositioning the doll as a joke,

10:33

Angie said no, absolutely not. The

10:36

first thing I would think is

10:38

maybe her roommate is playing a

10:40

prank on her or something, right?

10:42

But the thing is, this odd

10:44

behavior continued for the next couple

10:46

weeks. And the doll's position kept

10:48

getting creepier and creepier. Like one

10:51

day, Donna came home to find

10:53

the stuffed doll literally standing on

10:55

two feet on the sofa. She

10:57

jumped and turned away, but when

10:59

she looked back only a few

11:01

seconds later, the doll was sitting

11:03

in its normal position. Donna began

11:06

to wonder if she had started

11:08

imagining things. Like maybe all those

11:10

late night study sessions for her

11:12

finals were starting to take a

11:14

toll on her, but it soon

11:16

became clear whatever was happening was

11:19

not a figment of her imagination.

11:21

A few days later, Donna went

11:23

over to the sofa to put

11:25

her feet up and relax. That's

11:27

when she noticed the doll wasn't

11:29

there at all. She figured Angie

11:31

had moved it while she was

11:34

cleaning or something, but the more

11:36

she thought about it, the more

11:38

something felt off. It wasn't just

11:40

the missing doll that was bugging

11:42

her. The whole room felt heavy.

11:44

So Donna decided to spend the

11:46

day in her bedroom instead. At

11:49

some point, she left her room

11:51

for a minute or two. We're

11:53

not sure why. Probably just to

11:55

use the bathroom or grab something

11:57

out in the living room. But

11:59

when she returned, she noticed her

12:01

bedroom door was closed. And get

12:04

this. She distinctly remembered leaving it

12:06

open earlier. Donna was really creeped

12:08

out now. The closer she got

12:10

to the door. The bigger the

12:12

pit in her stomach grew. She

12:14

slowly placed her hand on the

12:16

doorknob. heart began beating out of

12:19

her chest and as the door

12:21

creaked open she saw exactly what

12:23

she was afraid of. The Raggedy

12:25

Ann doll sitting in the middle

12:27

of her bed staring right at

12:29

her. Okay so this was scary

12:31

enough when the doll was switching

12:34

positions but now it's moving around

12:36

the apartment on its own which

12:38

y'all is when I say take

12:40

this Raggedy Ann to the dumpster

12:42

get it out of my apartment.

12:44

But for some reason, I don't

12:47

know, morbid curiosity maybe, Donna put

12:49

it back on the sofa, which

12:51

was obviously a huge mistake. But

12:53

the more I think about it,

12:55

I wonder, do some supernatural entities

12:57

have this control over us? Because

12:59

the first thing we often do

13:02

is we want to scream like,

13:04

get out of the house or,

13:06

you know, get rid of the

13:08

doll. But the weird thing is,

13:10

it seems like in a lot

13:12

of these cases, People just can't.

13:14

Yeah, it's easy for us just

13:17

to sit here and say, run,

13:19

get out, get rid of the

13:21

doll, because from an outside perspective,

13:23

it may seem just so clear

13:25

to us, right? But when you're

13:27

in the thick of it, there's

13:29

so many reasons why you wouldn't.

13:32

A part of it, I'm sure,

13:34

is questioning, like, is what I'm

13:36

seeing even real? It's the rational

13:38

part of our brains, even if

13:40

our intuition might be trying to

13:42

nudge us in a different direction.

13:44

But here's where it gets even

13:47

weirder. The day after this happened,

13:49

Donna and Angie were hanging out

13:51

in the living room with the

13:53

doll, still there, sitting at the

13:55

end of the sofa. At some

13:57

point, Donna spotted something out of

13:59

the corner of her eye. A

14:02

shred of paper was lying on

14:04

the ground a few feet away,

14:06

and she could tell there was

14:08

something written on it. Normally she

14:10

wouldn't give this a second thought.

14:12

I mean, they're in college. What

14:15

student hasn't crumpled up a piece

14:17

of notebook paper, tossed it in

14:19

the trash, and missed? But the

14:21

thing is, the paper that Donna

14:23

saw was parchment paper, you know,

14:25

like for baking, which she and

14:27

Angie never did. So naturally, she

14:30

was curious to see where it

14:32

came from. They picked it up,

14:34

flipped it over, and that's when

14:36

they saw it. Scribbled on the

14:38

piece of paper were the words,

14:40

help me. And the handwriting was

14:42

sloppy, like a child wrote it.

14:45

The women turned to look at

14:47

the doll. and its usual little

14:49

smirk pointed back at them. Neither

14:51

of them had to say it

14:53

out loud, but it was obvious

14:55

that they were both thinking the

14:57

same thing. It's the doll. And

15:00

that's what made Donna and Angie

15:02

realize that they were dealing with

15:04

something serious, but as concerned as

15:06

they were, they couldn't help but

15:08

wonder, like, why? Why did the

15:10

doll need their help? They could

15:12

sense the answer to that question

15:15

was hidden somewhere far beyond the

15:17

walls of their apartment. So they

15:19

contacted a medium and made an

15:21

appointment for her to come over

15:23

later that week. But in the

15:25

meantime, the roommates kept finding mysterious

15:27

notes and they were all written

15:30

on that parchment paper, just like

15:32

the first one. Only the message

15:34

was slightly different each time. Sometimes

15:36

it said, help me like before.

15:38

Other times it said, help us.

15:40

And even help Lou. And I'm

15:42

sure you're wondering who the heck

15:45

is Lou? Well, Lou was Angie's

15:47

boyfriend and he was at their

15:49

apartment a lot. So it makes

15:51

sense that the doll would know

15:53

who he was. But still, Donna

15:55

and Angie don't understand what these

15:58

messages are about. They don't get

16:00

why the doll needs help or

16:02

why on earth Lou would need

16:04

help. Plus, the messages had a

16:06

vibe that was really foreboding and

16:08

sinister. So all three of them

16:10

were absolutely terrifying. The medium couldn't

16:13

get there fast enough and when

16:15

she finally did arrive, she said

16:17

the only way to find out

16:19

what the doll was really thinking

16:21

was to perform a seance. There's

16:23

no telling exactly how this played

16:25

out, but I think it's safe

16:28

to say that they dim the

16:30

lights, gathered around a table, maybe

16:32

lit some candles, until eventually someone

16:34

or something. made contact from the

16:36

other side. The medium said the

16:38

spirit of a seven-year-old girl named

16:40

Annabel Higgins was there with them.

16:43

And we're not sure what year

16:45

Annabelle was born, but as the

16:47

medium spoke to the little girl,

16:49

she learned that years earlier, her

16:51

family had lived on the land

16:53

where Donna and Angie's apartment building

16:55

was now. Annabel said her childhood

16:58

was really happy. But then things

17:00

took a dark turn. Annabelle didn't

17:02

give a lot of details, but

17:04

she said that one day her

17:06

lifeless body was found in a

17:08

field. Donna and Angie assumed this

17:10

meant she had been murdered. Except

17:13

Annabelle didn't clarify how or when

17:15

she died. She just said that

17:17

after suffering that tragic fate, she

17:19

wanted to live in the apartment

17:21

with Donna and Angie. All she

17:23

wanted was to feel cared for

17:26

and loved. So this is where

17:28

I start to kind of feel

17:30

sad for the doll? And I

17:32

guess this sort of explains why

17:34

Donna and Angie didn't get rid

17:36

of her either. After all, these

17:38

are two future nurses. So of

17:41

course they want to help. I

17:43

mean, caring for people is their

17:45

calling. And that's exactly why they

17:47

told a medium. Of course Annabel

17:49

could stay. Only, this would turn

17:51

out to be a huge mistake.

17:53

especially when they learned that Lou

17:56

was in serious danger and Annabel

17:58

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40:20

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40:23

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40:25

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40:27

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40:31

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40:33

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40:36

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40:38

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40:42

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40:45

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40:47

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40:49

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40:51

you see the doll. So what do you

40:53

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40:56

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40:58

if we decide to go, you know

41:00

that a sprinkle of holy water wouldn't

41:03

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41:05

on dousing myself from head to

41:07

toe, like bathing in that holy

41:10

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41:12

go, but I'm staying at least

41:14

six feet away from Annabelle,

41:16

and if we do see her, let's

41:19

make sure to only say nice things.

41:21

You know, just in case. Deal.

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