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Hello , hello and welcome to the Low no Drinker
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podcast , the only twice weekly podcast
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helping you find , understand and enjoy
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the world of low , no and light drinks , drinkers
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and drinking . My name
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, as you'll know by now , is Denise Hamilton-Mace
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and I am the founder , editor and
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host of all things Low no
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Drinker . This week , I
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am going to bring you possibly a
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slightly shorter episode , because
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I've got a point to make that is really
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important to me and I want you to focus on what
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I'm going to share rather than all
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of the paraphernalia that can go around
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it . And it is the title
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of this episode , which is a
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riff on Fleetwood Mac's very
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famous song , and that is that
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you can drink your own way . I'm
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not going to sing . You can thank me later . I've been told
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I'm not to sing in public anymore . And
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the reason for this why am I doing this episode
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? It has come to light lately that
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, whilst the low , low
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and light market is growing at
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a humongous rate and I'm so excited
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excited by it , and I hope that you are excited too
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, I presume you are , that's why you're here
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that there is less
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enthusiasm for the growth of
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some big alcohol brands out
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there . I got some
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pushback recently on
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some news that I shared about Heineken's
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growth . They are now available in one
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in three pubs . Yes , I'm sharing the information again
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. So Heineken can now be found in
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one in three pubs across the entirety
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of the UK and they just
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hit 1000 draft
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taps in pubs in the
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UK and this is huge . You know , people
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are calling for alcohol free beers . They're
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calling for alcohol free beer on draft
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beers
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. They're calling for alcohol-free beer on draft . But
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obviously Heineken falls within that big alcohol umbrella . Now in Lono Nation
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I share news from all sides
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of the Lono and light drinking sphere
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. Why ? Because I
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serve you . I'm
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here to share news with drinkers
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about the drinks that they can use
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when they choose to live a life less intoxicated
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, whether that is for a night , a week
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, a month , a year or a lifetime . Not
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everybody wants to be
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sipping on 10-pound bottles
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of small batch yuzu-infused
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kombucha brewed on the forest
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moon of Endor with the fingers
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of celestial nuns . It's
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not a path that everybody
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wants to take . Some people like
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mainstream and
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you know what . That's okay . Personally
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, I don't care what you drink . I don't
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care if you drink alcohol-free beers
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, wine , spirits , ciders , if you
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prefer 0% or 0.5%
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, if you like mid-strength drinks
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, or you only like light alcohol , or
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you're completely teetotal . It's
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not relevant to me , and it shouldn't be relevant to
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anybody else , how you choose
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to drink . Big alcohol
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brands exist for a reason they
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offer accessibility , they offer affordability
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, they offer familiarity and they are
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. How many people find their way into
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the low-no and light drinking space ? The
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first alcohol-free beverage I
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ever had was a Peroni Zero , and
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look where it's led me to . I really
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want to make sure that
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everybody in low-no nation
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knows that choosing
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a well-known alcohol-free
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beer or whatever brand
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doesn't make you less of a mindful drinker . It doesn't make you less
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of a mindful drinker . It doesn't make you less qualified to be sober
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. Curious . It doesn't mean that you are not welcome to drink
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at our table . You have to find
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what's right for you . It's about being
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intentional with your drinks choices . It's about
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being mindful about how it's impacting you
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and making choices that serve the way that
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you want to live , not
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that make other people feel
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that you are cool or that
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you've got the trendiest choice or
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that your drink is on
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the new frontier of what's going on . It
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doesn't have to be . It just has to be something that
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you can hold in your hand and feel that
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you are having an adult drink at
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an adult occasion and you are feeling
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like you are part of the community
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, and that is what's most important
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. Yes , big alcohol does
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bring challenges to the low
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and low space and , as you'll know by
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now , I am a big advocate , a big fan
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of independent brands . Part of the reason
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why I have this platform is because I want to help
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smaller , independent brands
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reach and be found by drinkers
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like you who want to know what they've got to
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offer , who want to try something different
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. And yes , some big alcohol
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brands are terrible . Don't get me
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wrong . I'm not here waving the flag
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saying that Diageo
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and Heineken and all
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of those massive conglomerates are
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the way forward . Some of them are absolutely
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god awful , but the point is
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that you have to go and find that out for yourself
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. It's about what makes you feel good
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and about what you enjoy , because
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, just as some big alcohol brands are awful
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and can turn people away from the category let's
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not sugarcoat it here
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Some independent brands are awful as well
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. But that's just life , that's just business
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. There is no category of business
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out there where everything within that
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category is amazing , and
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there's definitely no category where every person
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thinks that everything in that
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category is amazing . That's why we
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have variety , that's why we have
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choice , so that you can go and
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find what works for you . There
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are some very big brands in this
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space that I don't enjoy , not
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because they're bad , but because they don't work for my
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palate , and that's okay . There
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are some big alcohol drinks that I don't enjoy
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because they don't work for my palate , but also
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the flip side is true , you
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know . So the only way I know
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this is because I've tried different things
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and I've tasted different things and I've given them
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a chance and I've experimented
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and I've mixed things and I've , you
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know , tried the beer with the lime and the beer without
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the lime , and I've tried the spirit
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with the soda and
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I've tried it with a lemonade . You know , you try different
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things until you find what you like
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, and some of that is going to be big alcohol
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, and that's okay , and some of it is going
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to be small , independent brands , and
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that's okay too . My only
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request to you is that you keep trying and
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that you give independent brands just
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as much of a chance and an
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opportunity to impress you as
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you do with big alcohol . Let's
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remember that most people who are
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jumping into this way of drinking are
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doing it via their supermarket
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. You're going out for your weekly shop . You've
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realised it actually is . You're
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feeling a little bit worse for wear , for whatever reason
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, or you've got some stuff coming up and you don't want
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to drink as much , and you're in the drinks aisle
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and you're picking up your full strength bottles
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or whatever it is that you're having . But you're also
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looking to see what they've got in the low no
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space . And yes , it is a
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crying shame and I've spoken about it many
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times before and I will do more episodes on it in
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the future that independent brands
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find it so difficult to get space on
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supermarket shelves . But actually those
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aren't the best places to find those drinks
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. There are smaller , more
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independent supply stores
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, places like Wise Bartender and
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Dry Drinker where you can go and find
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the drinks that you'd like to have , once
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you've realized that this is a space that you want to
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explore a little bit more . So
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it's okay if you don't
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care about botanical pairings and
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subtle oak finishes
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. It's not a competition and
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there are no medals for
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finding the most obscure
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drink with the most unique ingredient
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. The only medal is one that you give
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yourself for making a choice that serves
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you best , and that is what I
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want to support . And sometimes that
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will come in the form of me telling you about
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big alcohol brands
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. You know , at the end
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of every episode I ask founders what
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they like drinking most in this space
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and so far this year the most
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popular answer is Guinness Zero
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, and I've had founders of
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independent beers and wines
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and spirits who've told me that they actually
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would be taking a bottle of Heineken to
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a barbecue or a bottle of Peroni
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. And I've also had some who've told me
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about really niche
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brands from the middle
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of Copenhagen that I'd never
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heard of and that I can't find anywhere in the UK
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that they'll be taking , and both of those are
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perfectly valid options
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. It matters how
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you feel when you're drinking the drink . It
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matters that it supports your goals
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. It matters that you enjoy the flavours
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and that you feel comfortable
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with it and that it fits into the way
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that you want to live your life . I
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said I keep this one short because I really hope that
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this message gets to
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you if you need to hear it . You
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don't have to impress anybody
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with what's in your glass and
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you don't have to justify your choice
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to drink low and no to
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anyone , and that includes other
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mindful drinkers . Everybody
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is welcome to drink at our
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table . You can drink your
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own way and that is more than
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good enough . Okay , rant
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over . I'm going to leave it there for
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today . Let me know if this
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resonates with you or if
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, if you think , denise , please shut up and get back
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to teaching us some of the facts about low and low and light
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drinks . Um , I'd be really interested to hear
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your thoughts on this . You can
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find me in all the usual places . There are links
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everywhere . Um , find me on socials
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at low no drinker magazine or
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email me , denise . At low no drinker magazine
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. That's it
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for me Until next week . Cheers
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to a life less intoxicated
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.
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