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Welcome to the Standard Deviations podcast, brought
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to you by Orion Advisor Solutions, and
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hosted by Dr. Daniel Crosby, Orion's Chief
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Behavioral Officer, a New York Times best-selling
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author. This year, Dr. Crosby embarks on
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a compelling exploration of meaning, what it
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is, why it matters, and how you
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can create more of it in your
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life. Each episode will only be available
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for one week. So don't miss your
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chance to listen. Tune in regularly and
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join the journey. Well
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for the third week in a
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row here, we're going to be
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talking about the finer points of
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relationships in this search for meaning
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and purpose. This week we'll be
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talking about why others may not
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support your purpose. Now one sure
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sign that a behavior is
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truly fundamental to the human
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condition is that it pops up
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in cultures around the world. I first
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encountered this in my financial writing
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when I came across the idea
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of what we in America call
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shirt sleeves to shirt sleeves in
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three generations, and I found this
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in cultures from Asia, Europe, and
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North America. It seems
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as though there is something
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truly universal, something truly human,
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about the truth that one
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generation often builds, the next
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expands, and the third spins
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spins it down. The idea of
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a crab in a bucket
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mentality has been codified in
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cultures all over the globe. The
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phrase is based on the
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anecdotal observation that crabs trapped
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in a bucket will drag
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each other back down into
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captivity if one starts
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to escape, ensuring the
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collective demise of the group.
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In effect, they're saying, if I
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can't have it, neither can you. In
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Australia and New Zealand, this is
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referred to as tall poppy syndrome.
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The idea that people who have amassed
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fortune or fame will be criticized
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to ensure that they know they
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are not above the law, the
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law of human nature. In Asia,
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a common refrain is that
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the nail that sticks up
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gets hammered down. The Dutch
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have a similar notion,
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which translates to
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don't put your head above
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ground level. But perhaps no
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one has perfected the art
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of keeping others in their
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place, like the Scandinavians, who
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have even formalized it into
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a quote-unquote law. The law of
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Janta is not an actual
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law, but ten rules, unspoken
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societal norms and attitudes, that
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shun individual success and achievement.
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Focusing on a collective mindset,
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ideal behaviors center around
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equality, modesty and conformity
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and conformity. The first rule
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squashes what many American elementary
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school children are so often
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told, you are not to
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think you are anything special.
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Rule number two goes on
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to undermine an individual's worth compared
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to that of the collective.
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You are not to think you are as good
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as we are. The humbling list
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continues, and the gist of it all
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is that no. You on your own are
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not good enough, not smart enough, and
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doggone it, people just don't like you.
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Though the intention of these
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draconian social rules was
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initially satirical, some assert that
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the law of Janta has
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seeped its way into how
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Scandinavian communities function, including schools.
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In psychology, we call
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these leveling mechanisms, and my
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favorite of these leveling mechanisms,
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has to be, quote, shaming
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the meat practiced by the kung
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bushman of the calahari. This
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practice was observed in catalogued
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by Richard Borche Lee in
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his essay, Eating Christmas in
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the calahari. In the essay, Lee so
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kindly gifts an ox to the kung
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people, but they took a fifth... to
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the act, insulting Lee and
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his meaty gift. Lee asked a man
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to Mazo why they were offended. The
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kung viewed what we might deem
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generosity as arrogance. Tamazo
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describes how when a young
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man makes a big kill he
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considers himself a chief and thinks
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of the rest of the group
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as servants. The kung people don't
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accept that boastful mentality.
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As a leveling mechanism... the
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meat is deemed worthless so that
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the young man's heart is cooled
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and made gentle again. From the
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frozen fjords of Norway to
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the Calahari Desert, keeping
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each other in check is a
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fundamental aspect of how we relate
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to one another. Those of us
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on a journey discover our life's
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meaning, expect those around us
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to share our excitement once we
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find it. Often, that assumption
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is met with disappointment.
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as others might not only
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lack enthusiasm for our new
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direction, but may actively try to
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thwart it. What gives? To understand
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this impulse, we must first
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grasp the reality that most
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of the world leads lives
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of quiet desperation, training the
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possibility of fulfillment
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for safety and
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respectability in the eyes of others. In
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your case, you might see
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enriching potential, whether it be in a
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new career. engaging in an
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activity based on a deeply held
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sense of mission, or simply associating
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with a new group of
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friends. You view the odds as being
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in your favor, you take the first
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step, and now you are starting to
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break from the pack. But your
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actions to free yourself
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from this foreordained path are
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received by others as a condemnation
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of their own safe choices and
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put them face to face. with
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what may be their own
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life dissatisfaction. This sets in
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motion a kind of cognitive
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dissonance that brings them to a
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crossroads. They can support you
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in your choices and in doing
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so must face up to their
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own self-deception or they can dissuade
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you from following your calling and
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in so doing excuse the tradeoffs
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that they have made in their
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own life. Of course this won't
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be positioned as being about them
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at all. Their critiques will
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almost always be framed in
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terms of your protection, safety
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and doing what is sensible.
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But make no mistake, often
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the person being protected
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and placated is them.
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Very often, people's reactions
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to you are really
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just reactions to themselves.
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In shunning you and your
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purpose, they are really just shunning
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the lack they see in themselves.
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Understand these interactions
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for what they are. Well meaning,
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well intended, but misguided
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attempts. at maintaining the
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status quo that keep the
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person offering the critique ensconced
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in a bubble of protective
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apathy. So what do we do with
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this? If you've listened for the
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past three weeks, you know that
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some of these surest paths to
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meaning are based in relationships. But
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we also know about the
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huge human tendency for social mimicry,
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for following the herd, and having
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that get in the way of
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our creating meaning. And then of
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course today we see how we
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can tear down each other's meaning
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because of our own misguided jealousy
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and desire for safety. So how
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do we make sense of this
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power and peril of we of
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our connectedness? Well, it reminds me
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a bit of the concept of
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Ubuntu, which is a set of
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African value systems that
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speaks to the interconnectedness
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and interdependence
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of humankind and our
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shared responsibility to one
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another. concept that's often translated as
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I am because you are. Bubunto
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reminds us of the invisible thread
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that ties us all together. We've
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now talked about how relationships can
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be the source of our very
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richest sources of meaning, but also
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how they can obscure a focus
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on our true desires. So what
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do we do? What's the right
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approach to take to privileged relationships
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while also learning to listen to
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our inner voice and not letting
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others dictate our path? Well, like
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most things, the answer is somewhere
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in the middle and moderation should
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rule the day. Famed researcher Adam
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Grant suggests that the middle path
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is to be what he calls
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other-ish. A clever way of saying
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that life is best achieved when
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we balance giving and taking, talking
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and listening, taking external feedback, as
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well as following our internal compass.
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Each has a role in constructing
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a meaningful walk and a life
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well-lived, is always going to combine
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both elements of living for and
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serving others and learning to trust
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ourselves. So there you have it.
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The answer is moderation. and that
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middle path. Thank you for listening
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to This Year of Meaningful Living.
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we also hope that you will
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Soul of Wealth, which is 50
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Reflections on Money and Meaning. So
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the podcast this year, I think
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you will love the Soul of
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Wealth. Please give that book a
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look today and we'll see you
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next week. Thanks for tuning in
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