Dr. Daniel Crosby - The Danger of Playing it Safe

Dr. Daniel Crosby - The Danger of Playing it Safe

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Dr. Daniel Crosby - The Danger of Playing it Safe

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Welcome to the Standard Deviations podcast,

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brought to you by Orion Advisor

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Solutions, and hosted by Dr. Daniel

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Crosby, Orion's Chief Behavioral Officer, a

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New York Times best-selling author. This

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year, Dr. Crosby embarks on a

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compelling exploration of meaning, what it

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is, why it matters, and how

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you can create more of it

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in your life. Each episode will

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only be available for one week.

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So don't miss your chance to

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listen. Tune in regularly and join

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the journey. Although I no longer live

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there, I'm a native Alabama. My grandparents

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moved to Huntsville from Florida

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so that my grandfather, an

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engineer, could be part of the

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space race between the Soviet Union

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and the US. I grew up in what's

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called the Rocket City, attended schools

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named after astronauts who died in

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the line of duty, and grew

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up surrounded by literal rocket

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scientists, whose contributions always made

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me very proud. given my

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family and regional ties to

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the space program, I always watched

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the shuttle launches of my

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childhood with a special enthusiasm.

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That's also why the events

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of January 28th, 1986, were

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so painful to me, when,

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like millions of other American

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children, I witnessed the explosion

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of the space shuttle challenger.

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While there were a host of factors

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that contributed to the tragedy,

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which claimed the lives of

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all seven crew members, including

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famed teacher Krista McAuliffe, in

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the end, the disaster was officially caused

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by the failure of an O-ring seal

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in one of the solid rocket boosters,

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resulting in the breakup of the

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space vehicle. During the previous

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50 launches, the pair of

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rocket boosters separated with beauty,

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a testament to NASA's

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engineering talent. STS 51L's explosion

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just 73 minutes after ignition

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looked much different in the

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Florida sky that fateful late

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January morning. In the weeks and

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months that followed an unusual

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plume caused by the damaged

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O-ring was analyzed and fingers

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were pointed, but was the

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loss of life born out of

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a basic human psychological flaw. The

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status quo bias is the

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tendency of individuals to prefer

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the current state of things

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and resist change. In the

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case of Challenger, NASA officials

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may have fallen prey to

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it. Heading into 1986. The shuttle

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program felt pressure to keep up

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with a schedule that had already

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been fraught with delays and setbacks.

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Fewer missions had been completed

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and confidence in NASA once

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a highly respected government agency

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was on the decline. Facing this pressure

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to perform, those in charge were

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determined to launch Challenger

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despite dangerously cold temperatures.

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Engineers at Morton Thiakol, the

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contractor responsible for building the

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solid rocket boosters, had raised

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concerns about the effect of

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freezing conditions on the O-ring's

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performance and durability. Warnings

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in hand, NASA's decision-makers opted to

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proceed with the launch, which

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had already been postponed three

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times and scrubbed once. Hindsight

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is always crystal clear, but it's

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evident that the status quo

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bias played a crucial role in

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the challenger disaster. The emphasis on

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hitting launch milestones and

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following established procedures led to

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a decision that overlooked critical

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safety concerns, resulting in one

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of the biggest tragedies in

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American aviation and space history.

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Had those in charge disregarded

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professional pressures and past missteps,

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perhaps the reality of the high-risk

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choice to launch would have been

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seen in a different light. Unfortunately,

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not wanting to get off course,

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avoiding rocking the boat and playing

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it safe, politically speaking, contributed

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to a disaster. Paradoxically,

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it was precisely the the desire

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to play it safe that

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made the mission so deadly.

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Likewise, in our lives, some

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of the most dangerous mistakes

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we ever make are hidden

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by their seeming respectability. Sticking

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to the plan, staying on

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schedule, and doing the responsible

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thing can all be high-minded

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sounding ways in which we

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live lives that are so

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much less than they could

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be. Of all the forms

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of running from freedom, This

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conscientiousness may be the most

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dangerous precisely because it is

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the most outwardly respectable. Capitulation,

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the failure to get started,

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is likely to prompt concerned

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inquiries from loved ones, but

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a lifetime spent grinding away

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at an outwardly respectable life

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is unlikely to raise any

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eyebrows, regardless of how distant

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that life may be from

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your most meaningful existence. Nobel

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Prize-winning physicist and extraordinary thinker

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Richard Feynman once remarked, quote,

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the first principle is that

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you must not fool yourself

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and you are the easiest

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person to fool. The unremarkable

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nature of running from freedom

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via conscientiousness is the embodiment

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of Feynman's warning. It is

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simply so easy to fool

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ourselves when the excuses we

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make for half living have

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such... a profound veneer of

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decency. A milktoast respectability is

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one way to live a

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maddening but seemingly upright existence,

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but it's certainly not the

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only way. The Austrian psychotherapist

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Alfred Adler suggested that safeguarding

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tendencies were any defense mechanisms

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that we put up in

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a misguided effort to protect

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our egos and prevent us

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from completing life's duties. Illness,

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anxiety, An outward fragility could

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protect someone by signaling to

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the world. Be careful with

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me. A safeguarding tendency could

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be as simple as telling

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ourselves, I'm not the kind

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of person who or I'm

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not good at. Less obviously

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anger can be a safeguarding

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behavior that incapacitates and distances

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us from achieving our life

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goals. Violence, passive aggression, and

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dismissiveness all have the appearance

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of strength but tend to

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mask a much deeper fear

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and insecurity. I'm not good

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at math. I'm too old

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to go back to school.

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I'm just not a risk

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taker. The economy is too

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uncertain to start a business.

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Oh, I'm just unlucky in

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love. Well, you know how

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folks with blank fill in

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your psychological diagnosis here are.

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If you've ever said any

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variant of the above, as

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I certainly have, you've engaged

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in an Adlerian safeguarding behavior.

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What do you notice about

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all of the statements above?

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In every case, they position

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the power and thus the

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solution. just outside of our

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reach. The emphasis is either

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on a personal trait that

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is perceived as unchangeable, like

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not being lucky in love,

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or an externality over which

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we have no control, like

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the economy. Where there is

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no responsibility to act, we

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can do the safe thing,

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and no one can give

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us a hard time. How

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convenient? But Adler isn't ready

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to let us off the

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hook just yet. He suggests

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that we are brought to

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a crossroads concerning our safeguarding

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tendencies. We can either address

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them head-on, or they will

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morph into a phrase he

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made famous, you may have

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heard of this, inferiority complexes.

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Safeguarding tendencies position our problems

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as skill issues, which we

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predictably cannot take on due

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to a lack of personal

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skill or bad luck. Adler

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says instead that our problems

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are courage issues which are

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less about can and cannot

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and more about will or

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will not. For Adler, the

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key to a fulfilled life

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is to increase your courage.

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He says, courage is not

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an ability one either possesses

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or lacks. Courage is the

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willingness to engage in a

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risk-taking behavior, regardless of whether

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the consequences are unknown or

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possibly adverse. We are capable

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of courageous behavior. provided we

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are willing to engage in

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it. For Adler, the source

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of our most profound problems

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is less about the things

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life is thrown at us,

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and more about the solutions

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we have adopted to try

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to overcome those things. The

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safeguarding tendencies we rely on

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to help smooth our path

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end up becoming our primary

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obstacles. As we learn from

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Adler, It becomes apparent that

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much of what we have

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positioned as moral uprightness may,

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in fact, be simple cowardice.

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It is only as we

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bravely face down our self-deceptions,

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that we will learn to

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view our pseudo-responsive safeguarding behaviors

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as the lies that they

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are, and make more courageous

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choices in their stead. Where

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safety says, I can't, courage

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answers an entirely different question

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altogether and says, I will

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try. By now you're seeing

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that many of the purpose-killing

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behaviors in our lives embody

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a strange paradox. They seem

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to keep us safe, but

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slowly corrode our freedom and

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obscure our mission. Soren Kierkegaard

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said concisely what I've now

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rambled about for a while.

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To dare is to lose

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one's self. There are parts

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of ourselves that are only

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revealed by action. There are

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parts of ourselves that are

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only revealed by risk-taking and

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movement. Sitting still is never

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truly risk-free. All too often,

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it is an act of

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reversal and decay. This is

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one of my favorite podcasts

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yet. I gotta be honest.

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I love them all, but

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I think this one is

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so impactful for so many

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of us. I hope you

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enjoyed it too. If you

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had, I'll ask you to

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do a couple of things.

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First, if you're enjoying this

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series on meaning, I'd encourage

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you to go check out

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my book on money and

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meaning. The name of the

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book is The Soul of

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Wealth. 50 Reflections. on money

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and meaning. And if you're

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People really seem to be

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loving this series. I hope

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you are and I hope

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you'll tell a friend. Thanks

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so much. We'll see you

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next week. Thanks for tuning

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in to standard deviations. If

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you can't wait till next

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week for more behavioral finance

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