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morning, afternoon or evening, wherever you

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sessions. My name is Matt Hudson,

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A.K.A. Jav and the Hudge, and

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joining me here as ever in

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the cockpit of the Essex Falcon,

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he is the greatest Star Wars

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man, fan and by the out

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there. It's Master Bly Walker, Luke

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Bly, how you doing, mate?

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How you doing, Oi, Oi,

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Savver Loy. Matt, it is

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a very... Very special week.

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Okay. Guess what came out?

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Twenty-five years

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ago. This week.

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What if you

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could experience all

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the wonder? What

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if you could

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experience all the

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wonder? What if

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you could see

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it all? Again.

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Now you can share it all

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with your family on video. Star

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Wars, episode 1, The Phantom Mass.

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We haven't much time. The one

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to own on video. Fantamenis

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on VHS, mate. Do you know

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what I mean? 25 years, mate.

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Yeah, we may have missed the

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actual 25th anniversary of the cinematic

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release, but do we care about

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that? No, of course not, mate.

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VHS. It's all about the very

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hot summer that Fantamenis really kicked

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us off with. Yeah, with the

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VHad, because I can just watch

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it over. Do you see what

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I did there? V, very hot.

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summer VHS.H.S. I did like them.

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That's why that's why having Luke

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Bly back on the airwaves because

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we get I'll give you the

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stupid dad jokes Luke will give

2:37

you the anagrams we are living

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loving laughing for days here 25

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years though mate so when I'm

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trying to use my brain here

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when did it actually come out

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then it was 25 years? 2000s.

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I again I remember going to

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see I'm not going to tread

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the story again it's just that

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25 years it just seems like

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it's gone by so quickly I

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saw a post about songs that

3:03

came out 25 years ago actually

3:05

today which is wild genuinely and

3:07

it made me just feel sad

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thinking oh I remember hearing that

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DVD too or whatever I'm thinking

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our 25 years has passed up.

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very hot summer, phantom menace. Lucas

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was back VHS mate. Nowadays it's

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all, it's not even Blu-ray, it's

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ultra-HD4K and stuff like that. So

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VHS, for those younger listeners, that

3:26

would have a set tape which

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had a plastic tape in it

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which you'd put into your VHS

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player, you'd have to sort the

3:35

track and out because it might

3:37

be a little bit off and

3:39

you couldn't skip forward or rewind,

3:42

but you couldn't skip chapters. It

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was... It was for me, it

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was very much a lost era

3:48

of watching films. I grew up

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on VHS. DVD came in when

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I was in my teen, so

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I grew up watching those old

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films, so I kind of... for

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those grainy-looking films or grainy-looking aesthetics

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when I watch stuff. 25 years,

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mate. Like the Phantom Menace. It's

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such a polished film. It almost

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doesn't feel like it should be

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on that grainy kind of output,

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does it, mate? Well, it was

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ahead of its time. Yeah, you

4:16

know, and I know we are

4:18

just biased Star Wars fans and

4:20

we just love this stuff. We

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eat it all up. But it

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was ahead of its time. The

4:27

C.G. V.F.X. The pod race scene

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is insane. What is interesting is

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someone, I can't for the life,

4:33

me, might have been Bobby Lawson,

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he's shown his missus, the Star

4:38

Wars films on Disney Plus, and

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he said on the Discord recently,

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recently plus version, which... automatically includes

4:44

the extended scenes with the pod

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race and it does be found

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that film it really does but

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I don't know if that's necessarily

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for the better like for I

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don't know the introducing someone to

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Star Wars I don't know the

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rings extended edition is it I

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mean even well I have a

5:04

hot take about the extended editions

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it I think for a first-time

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viewer it's a lot to ask

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anyone to sit there for four-ish

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hours for anyone, weak, as Palpatine

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would say, weak. Maybe. No, you're

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probably right, mate, but with the

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extended editions of LOTR, I think

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they had an awful lot, whereas

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the fact that the menists is

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like, oh look, get some pod

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races, but mate, we're not here

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to review the fact that menists,

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we're not here to talk about

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our experiences over the last 25

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years of the film, aren't we?

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No, no, no, no, no. We've

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got a new... series that if

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you've clicked on this you can

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clearly see what we're gonna chat

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about the best and worst lines

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that the fantasy episode one Star

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Wars 1999 this film does have

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a bad rap for its lines

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it does okay I'm just and

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there is some low-hang through which

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by the way mate I don't

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know about you I have tried

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to avoid right so in my

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worst just as a spoiler I

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have no charge our lines because

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otherwise it would be that's just

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me and that is just me

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because I've come to the table

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thinking my map might have one

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or two you let's be honest

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you could probably add seven or

6:23

eight or nine yeah there a

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lot of them are so daft

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so stupid But I've not done

6:29

that. Okay, so I'm trying to

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look beyond that as well because

6:33

that it would just like poodo.

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You're Subalba. Yeah? Yeah. You're just

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like right. Yeah, I'm so I'm

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moving beyond those, like actual meaty

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lines, okay? That's what I've gone

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for. But there are some gems

6:46

in this film. Gyms of like,

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and you're like, oh, that's... That's

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some prime George Lucas right there.

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That's original trilogy, George Lucas right

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there. And it's funny, going back

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studying these lines, like how much

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that comes out, mate. I'm so

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excited. And as per usual, I

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don't know what you've picked and

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you don't know what I've picked,

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right? Yeah, so. This is literally

7:09

where the fun begins to skip

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forward two films, but like Luke

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said, this is a new series,

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so we're not going to be

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doing it week after week after

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week, however, you know, you know,

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you know what? it's time for

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attack of the clones best and

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worst lines in a year's time

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it might be like let's do

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revenge of the sift you know

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i mean it's it's gonna be

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kind of dipping in and out

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and i know Luke's about to

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say there are no bad lines

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and attack of the clones aren't

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you? I am already so excited

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for attack of the clones I'm

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like let's do that one we

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can only pick we're only picking

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three as well mine iron in

7:52

any particular order from their not

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best to worst but when it

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comes to clones and all that

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we can only pick three best

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and three worse and like you

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I also took the criteria of

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are there bad lines that everybody

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knows about because they were spoken

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by Jarjar for example. Yes there

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are so I haven't included any

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not because I don't think they

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deserve it. Oh well I do

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think they deserve to be but

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I've got like I got a

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collection of quite a few best

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and worst now I've obviously whittled

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those down to three each. One

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of them that didn't make it

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was a Jarjar line because no

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matter how many times I say

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I out loud I can't it's

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just ridiculous but it hasn't made

8:38

my final three it is when

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he says Maxi big for force.

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Well that smells stinker with. I

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was like I just I mean

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Ahmed sells that line I mean

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as you know friends of the

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show Ahmed he sells all of

8:53

these lines with gusto however you

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can you can write this George

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but yeah you know how it

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goes yeah yeah I hear yeah

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there's the other line I haven't

9:03

got it for baiting on my

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notes actually but there's one where

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it's like better we dead in

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down there than like and you're

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thinking What, that doesn't even make

9:14

any sense, would you mean? Would

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you think? Oh my, there's better

9:18

to be dead there. I always

9:20

talk to my daughter from a

9:22

young age, but obviously you watch

9:24

some kid shows and they will

9:26

speak to the child to a

9:29

certain age, you know, they'll say

9:31

things in a way which you

9:33

won't be taught, but they can

9:35

understand. But eventually I kind of

9:37

moved away from that quite quickly,

9:39

so she would start to understand

9:41

how actual people speak. So she

9:43

wouldn't speak with... a child like

9:45

tone forever, it'd be more like,

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no this is actually how, so

9:49

Mr. Tumble might say that, but

9:51

this is actually how we say

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it. And then you think like,

9:56

oh we're not going to be

9:58

dead and down there. Now I

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know obviously it's gun gun talk,

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but it does feel slightly regressive

10:04

in the way that they're like,

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this is a character for kids.

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So we are going to dumbing

10:10

right down for kids, but listen,

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we did our episode on Realize,

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you know what? He ain't perfect,

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but he ain't all that bad,

10:19

is he? That's one of our

10:21

early episodes, isn't it? 2018? It

10:23

was pre-Armed best joining the sessions

10:25

and coming on. Is it about

10:27

episode 60 or something? Maybe before,

10:29

yeah. Okay, I've got my list,

10:31

mate. I've got my three best,

10:33

three worst. The notes say you're

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up first, right? Okay. I'm just

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saying. Okay, so what we haven't

10:40

discussed is what happens if we

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have, you know, it's a bit

10:44

of crossover. What happens if I

10:46

pick one of yours? pick another

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one. No I'm going to say

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I'm going to say that's one

10:52

of mine and we can just

10:54

elaborate on it. All right I

10:56

take it. Okay well I just

10:58

keep it simple mate. Keep it

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simple. Do you know what I

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mean? Lucy Goosey like the session.

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So for the first in the

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series let's go. So one of

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the best lines in the Phantom

11:11

Men is one of the best

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three that I've picked is an

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obvious one it's spoken by Master

11:17

Yoda. Fear is to path to

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the dark at a dark side

11:21

of the dark side. I sense

11:23

much fear in you. So I've

11:26

picked it because well it's true

11:28

fear does lead to anger and

11:30

the road to the dark side

11:32

and of course contextually we know

11:34

it's it's very foreshadowing in the

11:36

line but it's one of the

11:38

ones where Yoder is talking normally

11:40

for one as well he's not

11:42

talking in his kind of like

11:44

backwards cadence. I just think it's

11:46

a really really cool line which

11:49

has been used so much and

11:51

kind of parroted throughout Star Wars

11:53

whether it's one part of it

11:55

you've heard people say before like

11:57

fear leads to anger or angle

11:59

will lead to hate other things

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are very it's not that it's

12:03

the most experienced line it's a

12:05

very simple sentence but it very

12:07

simply spells out how the Jedi

12:09

see the path to the dark

12:12

side and it all begins with

12:14

fear which is of course related

12:16

to attachment or whatever you want

12:18

it to be. Fear starts you

12:20

on that path. And you can

12:22

also look at that like, you

12:24

know, there's nothing wrong with being

12:26

scared, you know, you're kind of

12:28

telling these people to not to

12:30

be less than human. almost where

12:32

you can't feel fear for anything.

12:34

So I just thought it was

12:37

a really good line to start

12:39

things off with. And I've always

12:41

interpreted that as as what your

12:43

action is after that fear, right?

12:45

So Yoda I think stipulates that

12:47

fear is going to happen, but

12:49

it's what you do with that

12:51

afterwards, right? That's what, that's how

12:53

I always, and maybe I'm wrong,

12:55

but yeah, I like that it's

12:57

up for debate, which is what

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I think is such a good

13:02

line about it. Which is very,

13:04

very, very, very, very, very, George

13:06

Lucas as well. See I haven't

13:08

got that line mate. I haven't

13:10

got that line. Because it's so

13:12

obvious almost. Yeah. Yeah. Now should

13:14

you do another worst or should

13:16

now I do a best and

13:18

then we'll go to work. I

13:20

think we'll do best, worst, worst.

13:23

I think just so not to

13:25

confuse things. I think you give

13:27

up one of your best mate.

13:29

Okay mate, this is a good

13:31

one. Oh my bones are aching,

13:33

storms are coming Annie, back at

13:35

home quick. Timeless mate, an official

13:37

mascot of the England football team,

13:39

love it. Let me hold it,

13:41

let me just get that tattooed

13:43

on my arm. Storms are coming

13:46

Annie. No right, although I absolutely

13:48

adore that line. I thought you're

13:50

being serious. We need to get

13:52

our act together and actually do

13:54

some Gira merch. I'm not joking.

13:56

Of course we haven't actually. It's

13:58

actually disgusting that we've not done

14:00

that yet. We always have these

14:02

ideas and then we're like, yeah,

14:04

yeah, yeah, great idea. Then a

14:06

week goes by and we're just

14:09

like, oh, that's like, oh, I'm

14:11

being a dad and I'm like,

14:13

oh, I work, right. I've got

14:15

this one, don't know if you

14:17

have this. You can't stop change

14:19

any more than you can stop

14:21

the sun from setting. I do

14:23

have a shmi skywalker. I used

14:25

this in the social post because

14:27

actually I couldn't think of a

14:29

better line really to take away

14:32

from that and it. a lot

14:34

of engagement on Instagram, not so

14:36

much on other platforms unfortunately, but

14:38

we got loads of love on

14:40

that line, on Instagram in particular.

14:42

Shmi is a bit of an

14:44

odd character in the prequels, you

14:46

know, sometimes her delivery on a

14:48

lot of things is just bit

14:50

dry, not always great, yeah. And

14:52

that's a theme that we'll keep

14:54

revisiting on this episode, I'm sure,

14:57

but... I think not only is

14:59

this just true to life, there's

15:01

some absolute wisdom for day to

15:03

day, Matt and Luke, listener, everyone.

15:05

But it's a real on-the-nose nod

15:07

to what's to come in the

15:09

Skywalker saga itself, isn't it? Yeah,

15:11

like Luke's adventure, and of course

15:13

in turn, eventually, Anakin's redemption. All

15:15

starts from that like Luke coming

15:17

out looking at the sunsets right

15:20

on Tatawine and the facts that

15:22

Shmi gives this line it's just

15:24

it's it's it is Star Wars

15:26

and yeah okay it's a bit

15:28

on the nose I love it

15:30

I absolutely love it it's great

15:32

foreshadowing for the rest of the

15:34

saga and that's what you and

15:36

I think this is just so

15:38

George Lucas at his best in

15:40

this film. Because there are moments

15:43

where you're like, oh man, this

15:45

film. This film. And people, there

15:47

are so many people that like

15:49

mode about this maybe Disney era

15:51

stuff and I'm like lads. Where

15:53

were you? You can't, you can't

15:55

moan about that if you're not

15:57

at least a little bit critical

15:59

about this. Anyway, I love that

16:01

line. What have you got to

16:03

add about that? So that's one

16:06

of your best as well. with

16:08

Annie and his mother together. I

16:10

think it's a really good scene.

16:12

Again, you look at the music

16:14

that accompanies it, but it's just,

16:16

you know, I always say just,

16:18

you know, give two people decent

16:20

lines and let them act and...

16:22

For me, that's always my favorite

16:24

type of acting or performances, regardless

16:26

of what the performers in this

16:29

film are like. I think that's

16:31

a really good scene. And yeah,

16:33

it feels Star Wars. It feels

16:35

like it's deeper than it should

16:37

be. And of course, like you

16:39

say, it's... We did that game.

16:41

We did our binary sounds at

16:43

Twin Sands episodes. Sounds are an

16:45

awful... have an awful lot of

16:47

power within the universe, galaxy, and

16:49

speaking of power, we know that

16:52

Anakin, that's what he wanted. He

16:54

wanted the power to stop him

16:56

from dying, basically the power to

16:58

be like this force god almost,

17:00

so you know, you can't stop

17:02

the change anymore, then you can

17:04

stop the sun from setting, so

17:06

don't try. And it goes later

17:08

on into the series when Leah

17:10

says, hope is like the sun.

17:12

You only believe in it when

17:15

you see it if you only

17:17

believe it, you will never make

17:19

it through the night. So like

17:21

grandmother, like daughter, talking about the

17:23

sons and how they relate to

17:25

your way of living almost. So

17:27

yeah, I had to put it

17:29

in there, mate. It's just a

17:31

really nice line and a little

17:33

bit of Lucas' wisdom. That's an

17:35

excellent shell, mate, with layer, that

17:37

layer line. I totally forgot about

17:40

that. Oh, poetry. And that is

17:42

Last Jedi, right? That is Last

17:44

Jedi, yes, Ryan Johnson did his

17:46

homework, believe it or not, everyone

17:48

listening. Yeah, yeah, he did do

17:50

it. Apart from with Mary Poppins,

17:52

he just went, you know what,

17:54

I'm just gonna, you know, for

17:56

every, for every tick there's a

17:58

tack with episode, in my opinion,

18:00

in my opinion, yeah. But that's

18:03

a good line. That was a

18:05

super, I mean last jet, that's

18:07

another one I can't wait for,

18:09

my word. That would be about

18:11

eight years I think by the

18:13

way we get to it, but

18:15

you wait, you wait to get

18:17

to mandalaure in season three, that's

18:19

going to be crazy. We did

18:21

think as well, yeah, we're talking

18:23

about Star Wars projects here, so

18:26

it's best and worst lines of,

18:28

eventually it'll be like, you know,

18:30

Mando's season one and or season

18:32

one and whatever, it's going to

18:34

be, it's going to be, it's

18:36

going to be, it's going to

18:38

be, worst line. It's going to

18:40

be great. Almost forgot about that.

18:42

Well, in terms of worst lines,

18:44

the first of the worst I'm

18:46

going to throw into the mix,

18:49

my man. It's one I've chosen

18:51

because it seems so out of

18:53

character for this character. And it's

18:55

when Obie One Canobie says, why

18:57

do I get the feeling that

18:59

we've picked up another pathetic life

19:01

form when all Aquagon did was

19:03

bring a young boy onto the

19:05

ship? That's all he did, he's

19:07

like, he's a little lad. You

19:09

pathetic life form, get out. I

19:12

just think it feels so, it's

19:14

fun, but it feels so out

19:16

of character, especially when, yeah in

19:18

the film, they show Obie to

19:20

be a little bit tempestuous when

19:22

Quaygon kind of, doesn't scald him

19:24

at the beginning, but he's like,

19:26

just calm down, mate, let's calm

19:28

down. It still feels out of

19:30

character, and... Yeah, that's why I

19:32

had to put it in there.

19:35

It's, it just kind of, it

19:37

just comes out of nowhere as

19:39

well. So is it like a

19:41

bad line? Maybe not, it just

19:43

feels out of character and out

19:45

of place. I've got this one

19:47

as well. You don't. And I

19:49

could not, and by the way,

19:51

I don't know if we've got

19:53

the other, my other worst, I

19:55

don't think we're going to have

19:57

the same, because I've gone a

20:00

bit more obscure on it, I

20:02

have no idea. Seriously, I'd have

20:04

no idea how this got through

20:06

to the final film, to the

20:08

final products, right? He might have

20:10

gone too far in a few

20:12

places. Brilliant. It just feels completely

20:14

out of touch with the character

20:16

that Kenobi is presented as in

20:18

the original trilogy. And I get

20:20

the he's meant to be younger,

20:23

but it's just so... it just

20:25

does not compute, does it? It's

20:27

like a Lego. brick going on

20:29

to a mega block brick. Like

20:31

it doesn't properly lock, does it?

20:33

It's not a weird... analogy but

20:35

that's what I came up with

20:37

off the top of my head

20:39

yeah but it does it just

20:41

doesn't work I don't think and

20:43

I think a lot of people

20:46

will actually agree with both of

20:48

us mate it's a ridiculous line

20:50

and it goes to show that

20:52

even when you've got one person

20:54

overlooking a project or multiple films

20:56

a series of films you're not

20:58

always gonna make the right choice

21:00

again in our opinion there's probably

21:02

people listening they're like no well

21:04

it shows these young you know

21:06

okay fair enough but No, I

21:09

don't think it works. And what's

21:11

even crazier, all right, what I

21:13

noted in that scene is that,

21:15

you know, they did some re-shoots

21:17

with you and McGregor, with Canobie,

21:19

and you can tell for Fanimus,

21:21

you can tell because he's got

21:23

like a slightly different haircut, like

21:25

it's more fris fris on top

21:27

and... Yep. I swear this line

21:29

is from a re-shoot. I swear.

21:32

it could well be because one

21:34

of the lines preceding that I

21:36

had a minor mentions and it

21:38

looks like they wanted to just

21:40

beef that bit out a little

21:42

bit more so yeah it's so

21:44

they would have for a shot

21:46

it Matt and gone yeah let's

21:48

include this include that line no

21:50

it doesn't make any it doesn't

21:52

make any sense there you go

21:55

I think that's a great worst

21:57

what a way to start it

21:59

off mate yeah we go we're

22:01

saying that so We've both shared,

22:03

I've given one best and then

22:05

we've both shared another best, I've

22:07

given one worse and we've both

22:09

shared that, so I guess I

22:11

only have one best left unless

22:13

we're going to get into honourable

22:15

mentions, but I actually struggled with

22:18

which one to put as my

22:20

third best, not because there wasn't

22:22

enough choice, but I had a

22:24

couple, but I ended up going

22:26

with one that Queen Amadala says

22:28

to Pop Palps. When she says

22:30

during the film, it is clear

22:32

to me now that the Republic

22:34

no longer functions, I pray you

22:36

will bring sanity and compassion back

22:38

to the Senate. Obviously she was

22:40

talking to the Senate, didn't realize

22:43

actually. I just think again foreshadowing,

22:45

yes, but it's the idealism within

22:47

Padme or sorry Queen Amadala to

22:49

think that sanity and compassion can

22:51

be brought back to politics on

22:53

any level is quite sweet and

22:55

naive really. But throughout the film,

22:57

that's all she's ever wanted. One

22:59

of the other lines I had

23:01

was, I was not elected to

23:03

watch my people suffer and die

23:06

whilst you discuss this invasion in

23:08

a committee. Because all she cares

23:10

about is the people of Naboo.

23:12

She cares about why she was

23:14

elected in the first place, not

23:16

for this idle chit-chat, but for

23:18

action. And in this line, when

23:20

she's also denouncing the Republican essence,

23:22

you know, it's clear that it

23:24

does not function. We know that...

23:26

the Republic will fall later down

23:29

the line. It's just the idea

23:31

that she prays that the Senate

23:33

can show some sense one day,

23:35

but she's also saying it to

23:37

at the time Senator Palpatine who

23:39

is behind the scenes plotting to

23:41

reshape the Senate and the Republic

23:43

into the first Galactic Empire. I

23:45

don't think it's a really cool

23:47

way, cool line that ties in

23:49

the idea of politics at the

23:52

Phantom Menis. brings to the forefront,

23:54

however shallow or messy it may

23:56

do so, I just think it

23:58

shows Prince, Queen Amadala's, you know,

24:00

where's her head at, and that's

24:02

where her head is. Maybe it

24:04

wasn't quite, I know you could

24:06

look at it and say, was

24:08

it said in a sardonic way,

24:10

but you know the idea that

24:12

actually still hopes that, yeah, the

24:15

Republic might be gone in my

24:17

eyes, but I hope that, you

24:19

know, just thing that we do,

24:21

you and I love, you and

24:23

I love, you and I love,

24:25

you, you, you and I love,

24:27

you, you, you and I love,

24:29

you, you, you know, bring people

24:31

back to our level so things

24:33

could be the way they were.

24:35

So I just think it's a

24:38

really cool line. That's a great

24:40

pick, mate. I would never have

24:42

guessed that either, but you're right,

24:44

and it's, it is timeless, right?

24:46

And I think a lot of

24:48

people are pointing. to the premise

24:50

of Phantom Menace, even right now

24:52

and thinking, oh okay, I see

24:54

you George, you know what I

24:56

see you, I've got I've got

24:58

two more best. Go on mate.

25:00

All right mate, and I've got

25:03

two worst and I'm still convinced

25:05

you ain't getting these worst. So

25:07

I've got two worst left, yep.

25:09

Okay, how about this? This is

25:11

from Lillani, Lillanek and Skywalker. Mom.

25:13

You always say that the biggest

25:15

problem in this universe is nobody

25:17

helps each other. I have that

25:19

as an honourable mention mate, he

25:21

didn't quite make the list. I

25:23

love this line. I adore this

25:26

line. If I'm being honest, Jakey

25:28

Lloyd, not always given the best

25:30

lines and not always delivers the

25:32

best lines if I'm being really

25:34

harsh. Right. It is really difficult

25:36

criticizing. child actors, yeah, and there's

25:38

a time and a place for

25:40

it. But in Phantom Menace, it

25:42

does seem to be up and

25:44

down a lot, right? And we'll

25:46

leave it there. But honestly, this

25:49

line comes across exceptionally, I think,

25:51

in Phantom Menace. And Jake Lloyd

25:53

smashes it. It comes across as

25:55

sincere. It's true as well in

25:57

universe and out of universe and

25:59

it and it poetically really comes

26:01

together with other Star Wars stories

26:03

and that's why that's what I

26:05

really like in Phantom Menace and

26:07

we mentioned this earlier with Shmi's

26:09

line but when you think of

26:12

people coming together in the original

26:14

trilogy you know the rebellion and

26:16

or think of and or in

26:18

this line yeah. But especially, and

26:20

here's the thing, Rise of Skywalker,

26:22

okay Matt, you know, it might

26:24

not be our favourite installment of

26:26

a Star Wars film, but that

26:28

ending, when all the ships arrive,

26:30

think of that line, think of

26:32

that line, you know, nobody, the

26:35

biggest problem is, nobody helps each

26:37

other. and you've got all of

26:39

people coming to help each other

26:41

at the end of episode 9.

26:43

So episode 1 you get that

26:45

line. So 9 you've got that

26:47

actually becoming reality. People helping each

26:49

other. Who is it? That's just

26:51

people. It's not an armada. I

26:53

think that's quite special mate. I

26:55

really do and I wouldn't be

26:58

surprised. You know Jay said I'm

27:00

thinking of all the the whole

27:02

saga. Yeah, I do think of,

27:04

I wonder if you read that

27:06

line. I was like, how can

27:08

we include that? I forgot a

27:10

load of other stuff, but he

27:12

was like, right, how can... Somehow,

27:14

I guess. Important right now. Yeah,

27:16

I don't know. But that line

27:18

I think is sensational, me. Sensational

27:21

and really relevant for people at

27:23

the moment too. Yeah, very pressing

27:25

line and one of... I picked

27:27

it, because I've got about... four

27:29

others which didn't make the list

27:31

and that's one of them because

27:33

it feels it also has that

27:35

kind of child-like innocence to it

27:37

it's like you know why can't

27:39

we all just get along you

27:41

know why why can't we all

27:43

be friends like you're seeing life

27:46

through the POV of a much

27:48

younger person who doesn't maybe doesn't

27:50

know the struggles and toils that

27:52

is yet to come in out

27:54

life but so it has that

27:56

kind of child-like quality to it

27:58

as well which I think it

28:00

works so well I think it

28:02

works so well I think it

28:04

works I think it works so

28:06

well I think it works so

28:09

well I think it works so

28:11

well I think it works so

28:13

well I think it works so

28:15

well I think it works so

28:17

well I think it works so

28:19

well I think it works so

28:21

well I think it works so

28:23

from a boy who was going

28:25

to grow up to be one

28:27

of the most evil people in

28:29

the entire galaxy. Well, they're really

28:32

nice. Love it. To kind of

28:34

counter what you're saying, mate, or

28:36

to add to it, you know,

28:38

Anakin, doesn't really experience any of

28:40

that from there and after, right?

28:42

When he leaves that away, no

28:44

one's helping each other, it's war.

28:46

Yeah, no, like, he's in a

28:48

dogmatic Jedi order that are on

28:50

a downwards trend, yeah, like that

28:52

are on a downward spiral. they're

28:55

not who they really should be

28:57

at the moment. Guardians of peace

28:59

and just, they're not that. They're

29:01

politicians and they're soldiers and then

29:03

in the empire, obviously that's when

29:05

it's manifested, right? So yeah, I,

29:07

but then you think of return

29:09

to the Jedi mate, when, you

29:11

know, oh, come on. Every day,

29:13

mate, I'm waking up and I'm

29:15

thinking, oh, return a new Jedi.

29:18

Oh, Cricksmay Dean. Oh, I know

29:20

it. The only person licking out

29:22

for Anakin was, the politician, it

29:24

was, Powhatin, which leads to revenge

29:26

of the siff, and they saw

29:28

him as a governor figure. It's,

29:30

you know, so he always wanted

29:32

people to look, well, I can't,

29:34

we always get along. Well, the

29:36

only person who got along was...

29:38

Papatine, but we all know that

29:41

he had other plans for young

29:43

Anakin Skywalker. He was going to

29:45

watch his career with great interest

29:47

after all. Okay, I've got two

29:49

more worse, so I'll go with

29:51

my first one, which is quite

29:53

on gin, when he says, Midichlorians

29:55

are a microscopic life form that

29:57

resides within all living cells. Why

29:59

do they? Why do we need

30:01

to? give quantify the force? Why

30:03

do we need to have midochlorines?

30:06

It also just, it's a scientific

30:08

mumbo-jumbo which, yes, does it show

30:10

that Jedi have lost their way?

30:12

Yes, did we do a great

30:14

episode about this a couple of

30:16

years ago? Of course we did.

30:18

However, I'm sure we mentioned it

30:20

back then as well, where it's

30:22

like, I kind of wished a

30:24

force was just this energy field

30:26

that's out there and you could,

30:29

everyone can tap into it, but

30:31

it's not due to. you know

30:33

how many blood certain cells you

30:35

have in your blood it's its

30:37

belief it's faith almost it's how

30:39

much are you willing to transcend

30:41

and give yourself into it rather

30:43

than oh you've got your numbers

30:45

higher than mine so it's easier

30:47

for you I don't like that

30:49

it did I mean there's a

30:52

reason why for years later it's

30:54

kind of been ignored and it

30:56

wasn't until the Mandalorian came in

30:58

when through gritted teeth they finally

31:00

said Mida glory and rather than

31:02

just M count. I just don't

31:04

like the idea of it being

31:06

in the wars. Liam Lee said

31:08

a great actor was giving a

31:10

lot of odd lines to try

31:12

and sell. I just don't really

31:15

like the line. I don't like

31:17

the concept and I kind of

31:19

wish it didn't exist. But it

31:21

does. I don't lose sleep over

31:23

it and I don't create YouTube

31:25

videos about it. But it's not

31:27

one of my favorite lines from

31:29

the film mate. Could you imagine?

31:31

It's a fair point buddy. It's

31:33

a very fair point. People would

31:35

destroy it. Yes. Rip it apart.

31:38

Rip it to shreds. Listen, I

31:40

think. It's an odd line. I

31:42

would redo it. But I appreciate

31:44

what George was going for, where

31:46

he's trying to say, look, they've

31:48

lost touch of that spiritual side

31:50

and they're touching more into this

31:52

just pure... science look at things

31:54

where again they're meant to be

31:56

this religion this faith this order

31:58

and they're relying on things that

32:01

are just like tangible it's like

32:03

no it's more than that isn't

32:05

it and that's what Yoda says

32:07

in the o.t you know like

32:09

we're not just this crude matter

32:11

yeah yeah and that's timeless isn't

32:13

it but I hear you okay

32:15

no I hear you're not gonna

32:17

have this I'm convinced you're not

32:19

gonna have this worst mate this

32:21

curry first so I've got one

32:24

more worse which I have to

32:26

live to live a later I

32:28

do also have three which didn't

32:30

make the list, so I wonder

32:32

if it at least made the,

32:34

actually two, because I mentioned Stinker

32:36

with. I wonder if it made

32:38

the list, but please, the floor

32:40

is yours. Okay, right. This is

32:42

good, this might even seem a

32:44

bit random. This comes from Padme.

32:46

I don't have that. Oh, it's

32:49

awful. It's so... Awful, it's so

32:51

bad. It's so, so bad. It's

32:53

just, the delivery just sucks. And

32:55

not only is it just a

32:57

really basic line that like a,

32:59

you know, junior school kid could

33:01

write. I just hate to sound

33:03

like my brother, but it's so

33:05

dull. It's so dull. And it's

33:07

not selling. It don't sell Padmay

33:09

very well in hindsight. You're like,

33:12

oh my word. You know, just.

33:14

You know, it's not necessary. It's

33:16

a really unnecessary line. And that's

33:18

the thing. We've already said with

33:20

the Obie One line earlier, how

33:22

did this get past all the

33:24

final production? Just cut that. Don't

33:26

need it. You don't need it.

33:28

Show, don't tell. And that comes

33:30

into another line that I'm going

33:32

to say later. Okay, show down

33:35

to it. It's just I I

33:37

know it's so nitpicky and niche

33:39

but I can't I can't stand

33:41

it. We're brave. Oh, hi. Oh,

33:43

my. But that's the beauty of

33:45

these of this series of episodes

33:47

which we're going to be dropping

33:49

over the next millennia is that

33:51

yes, some of them might be

33:53

the established ones like my first

33:55

one fear leads to anger blah

33:58

blah blah. But also it's our

34:00

choice as well. So yeah, this

34:02

is what you consider. So. I

34:04

think the actual potential of finding

34:06

little nuggets of rubbish like that

34:08

are quite intriguing because you're right

34:10

I mean it is a very

34:12

bad line it's very rudimentary it's

34:14

very very hard and then they've

34:16

given it to Padme and it's

34:18

like oh why you're doing it

34:21

doesn't matter who you give it

34:23

to but the fact that it's

34:25

Padme who I think has got

34:27

some great lines throughout all three

34:29

films some of the best of

34:31

the prequels but then you know

34:33

they they kind of say oh

34:35

Natalie say this say this Well

34:37

I think it's just the way

34:39

she kind of looks over. She's

34:41

not like nodding her head and

34:44

she just looks like a gormless.

34:46

Yeah she does and you know

34:48

we're around the heart and it

34:50

you know. So it just doesn't

34:52

sell it at all. At all.

34:54

I can't stand it. I'm gonna

34:56

say it. It's like the dummy

34:58

line in Last Jedi. Dummy? Oh

35:00

my God, it just... Oh! Why

35:02

is it so bad? Take Rose

35:04

Tico's name out of your mouth.

35:06

No, bad line. It's a bad

35:09

line. It's a bad line. It's

35:11

both of the way. It's an

35:13

awful. It's an awful. It's an

35:15

awful line. Go on. Now that

35:17

one in your little... No backups.

35:19

So, spoiler for the two that

35:21

I have got, is like backups,

35:23

neither of them are, are padmay

35:25

lines, but, so the worst, the

35:27

other, my final worst line, again,

35:29

this is personal preference, is my

35:32

choice. Okay. Is, I read out

35:34

the, the, the, the, the, the,

35:36

the, the, the line that precedes

35:38

it, because it all counts. So

35:40

it's a conversation between Quaygon and

35:42

Quaygon and Shme, you should be

35:44

very proud of any thought or

35:46

reward. Shmi Skywalk says, well he

35:48

knows nothing of greed. He has

35:50

a, Quaagon says, he has special

35:52

powers. And Shmi says, yes, it's

35:55

the, he has special powers. Yes,

35:57

I just, I've never liked it

35:59

when it's, I think there's another

36:01

part where they like, or even

36:03

when Anakin's like... My power was

36:05

my power. When he says to

36:07

Padmay and revenge the Sith, like,

36:09

oh, like my power was, my

36:11

power, it just seems like you're

36:13

leveling up, like you've gone on

36:15

a question you've obtained this stuff,

36:18

I don't like... And clones as

36:20

well, he says the same thing.

36:22

doesn't he my no no no

36:24

no that is that is if

36:26

yes he says it to count

36:28

duke and then he says it's

36:30

a Padme at the end only

36:32

my new powers can save that

36:34

I'm like dude I swear does

36:36

he say that in client maybe

36:38

I'm wrong I think that might

36:41

be a spoiler for one of

36:43

my worst lines and siff as

36:45

well only my new powers can

36:47

save you but I just don't

36:49

like what he has special powers

36:51

if he said that to little

36:53

Annie I would be slightly more

36:55

forgive him more forgive him lanny

36:57

I'd be slightly more forgiving because

36:59

he's talking to a child condescending

37:01

yes but he's talking to somebody

37:04

in like maybe how they understand.

37:06

He's talking to a grown adult,

37:08

he's talking to a grown woman,

37:10

he has special powers, as if

37:12

like you can't comprehend that he's

37:14

got me, he's more than just

37:16

that. Maybe he's also thinking, well

37:18

she's not going to know what

37:20

the force is, or the only

37:22

way I can say it is

37:24

in the simplest terms, but I've

37:27

never liked it when the force

37:29

has been called like special powers.

37:31

Yeah. It just seems a little

37:33

bit video game for me, the

37:35

way it's sold. Yeah, super serum.

37:37

Yeah, it is. I've leveled up

37:39

now. I mean, listen, if they

37:41

do it in video games, you

37:43

know, that's kind of, that's just

37:45

a game mechanic. You've got to,

37:47

like, fall in order. When he

37:49

has flashbacks, I remember how to

37:52

do this now. It's remembering the

37:54

powers he always had, but it's

37:56

not. necessarily like gaining them, it's

37:58

remembering them. I can buy that.

38:00

It's just the idea that Anakin's

38:02

like, oh, only my new powers

38:04

that I've learned from reading a

38:06

book have allowed me to save

38:08

you from death or whatever. Yeah,

38:10

what idiot would just write, just

38:12

justify that through books. I know

38:15

Jay Abrams, I don't know. You

38:17

freak me. People are taking shots,

38:19

they're taking hits from left, right

38:21

and centre, this stuff. I know.

38:23

I don't expect it in it.

38:25

Positive and negative. So I'm going

38:27

with that one because I just

38:29

don't like that he has special

38:31

powers. I've never liked that. And

38:33

to me, you're like, yes. So

38:35

that's my third of the worst.

38:38

But also it feels like just

38:40

again adding to it expanding it

38:42

it feels like they're talking about

38:44

personality and then they go on

38:46

to talk about Maybe for lack

38:48

of a better expression talent. Yeah,

38:50

what's that God? You were talking

38:52

about his personality the powers Yeah,

38:54

it doesn't line up. I don't

38:56

think yeah, that's a great show

38:58

I've got my last best line

39:01

Yeah, of course yeah, right Always

39:03

remember your focus determines your reality.

39:05

from Quigongen. It's simple, it's effective,

39:07

but beyond that mate, I'll be

39:09

honest, I think it's one of

39:11

the most memorable lines from the

39:13

film, because there's a lot of

39:15

lines in this film that aren't

39:17

memorable, yeah, like what we were

39:19

saying earlier, there's a lot of

39:21

like talking, not showing. a lot

39:24

and when it's way it's way

39:26

down sometimes by all of this

39:28

dialogue all of these lines that

39:30

are going on that are crazy

39:32

there are some crazy stuff being

39:34

said in episode one and I

39:36

love it for that I do

39:38

but this line just does seem

39:40

like a cut above the rest

39:42

I won't lie to you it's

39:44

it's exceptional and actually I'll level

39:47

with you mate it speaks for

39:49

itself yeah remember your focus determines

39:51

your reality it's so Jedi so

39:53

quite gone You can imagine this

39:55

in Return of the Jedi being

39:57

used as a line, right? Yeah,

39:59

we can imagine it in Empire

40:01

on Deggabar when yoga is talking

40:03

to Luke. You really can. That

40:05

was one of my best of

40:07

the rest. Well, yeah, I think

40:09

you're right, mate. It is one

40:12

of the more, it's one of

40:14

the best lines in the film,

40:16

but also it speaks so much

40:18

to being a Jedi. It speaks

40:20

so much to the philosophy of

40:22

the order that. There's a reason

40:24

why so many people quote it

40:26

now and it was and it

40:28

was quoted recently in one of

40:30

the series I can't remember which

40:32

one but they literally said that

40:35

line. Oh it was Jordan and

40:37

I would, a skeleton crew, literally

40:39

says that. So I'm glad that

40:41

they've kept that line alive because

40:43

it is a decent line. I'll

40:45

give Georgie Boy that. Oh it's

40:47

fantastic. Fantastic line, absolutely adore that.

40:49

Before we crack on I want

40:51

to shout out a worse that

40:53

didn't quite make the list. But

40:55

I think it's always worth mentioning,

40:58

like I said, the low hanging

41:00

fruit, I didn't want to include

41:02

it in the official list, but

41:04

sometimes you're walking down the path

41:06

and there's an apple hanging, you

41:08

just want to punch it, don't

41:10

you? Oh, very much so. Slap

41:12

it off the tree. into nowhere.

41:14

Booting no man. Exactly. Like Southampton

41:16

being booted back into the championship,

41:18

mate. Low-hanging fruit. Yeah, sorry mate.

41:21

Are you an angel? Oh, come

41:23

on, that is, you know, I've

41:25

used it on many dates. Never

41:27

had a second one, but come

41:29

on. Are you going to use

41:31

it in Japan, mate? Use it

41:33

in Japan. I'll fill myself doing

41:35

it for the... just so if

41:37

I can see why down for...

41:39

How about that? You can put

41:41

it on to, you can put

41:44

it on to Patreon, video and

41:46

yourself going up to some poor,

41:48

poor Japanese convention goers. Are you

41:50

an angel? I think it's happening

41:52

whatever reason Japanese. Do you say

41:54

it like a young Annie does

41:56

or do you say it as

41:58

a 30-something-year-old man would? No comment.

42:00

No, it's a bad line. If

42:02

I say... Are you an angel?

42:04

It's a funny one in it.

42:07

It is a funny one. I

42:09

also added one of my worst,

42:11

which didn't make the list, was

42:13

how feel you, Yoda to Anakin,

42:15

as they, when they're in the

42:17

Jedi chambers, when basically like your

42:19

thoughts dwell on your mother, when

42:21

they're testing him, Yoda literally says

42:23

how feel you, I'm like, get

42:25

out of it, don't, just stop

42:27

that. And the other one which

42:30

didn't make the list was. It

42:32

was there, there was no father,

42:34

I carried him, I gave birth,

42:36

I raised him, I can't explain

42:38

what happened. Georgie Boy is so,

42:40

so, so on the nose right

42:42

there, and it would be, would

42:44

the prophecy. Again, it's not like

42:46

there's a bad line, it's just,

42:48

I don't know, it just feels

42:50

like, it just feels like too

42:52

cheap for what it should be,

42:55

it's shoehorned in, yeah, that's exactly

42:57

it, it didn't make the three,

42:59

because it's one of... I couldn't

43:01

agree more and I don't think

43:03

I think it should have come

43:05

from somewhere else. I think if

43:07

I was shmi I'd almost... I

43:09

just want to keep that secret,

43:11

like tip-top secret, like that's what

43:13

I would. Because it's such a

43:15

huge thing to be able to

43:18

say and she's the way she's

43:20

like, don't know mate, there wasn't

43:22

a father, weird isn't it? Right,

43:24

so did you tell anyone? No.

43:26

Just happened and nobody asked questions

43:28

so I didn't elaborate. Shmi, what's

43:30

going on mate, mate, I don't

43:32

know. I think I went to

43:34

Burger King and I've just... I

43:36

smashed a few quarter pounders or...

43:38

No, what is it Burger King?

43:41

Not poor pounder. A few whoppers.

43:43

Whopper Wednesdays. And that's chicken royal.

43:45

I've got a burger baby, mate.

43:47

Got a burger baby. Listen, mate.

43:49

My last... My last curry-versed line.

43:51

Yeah. Coruscant. The entire planet is

43:53

just one big city. Rick Oley.

43:55

He's got quite a few, doesn't

43:57

he? And he didn't say much,

43:59

but when he does, his whole

44:01

catalog of lines in this film

44:04

could probably be included, to be

44:06

honest. But it's so absurdly unnecessary,

44:08

and it's just over the top,

44:10

it doesn't need to be included.

44:12

We can all see that it's

44:14

a city planet mate, we get

44:16

it, we get it, you don't,

44:18

you don't... needs and it's just

44:20

so bad one big city planet

44:22

oh you know exposits yeah there's

44:24

the blockade oh that's it tattooenant

44:27

oh is it it is it

44:29

is it is it is it

44:31

is it really I thought it

44:33

was a field of corn you

44:35

moron you moron thank you Oh,

44:37

man, he is awful, awful, awful,

44:39

awful, awful, and it's the epitome

44:41

of that. Just, just show us.

44:43

You don't need to tell us.

44:45

You don't need sellers. And it

44:47

just winds me up. It's a

44:50

line that winds me up. I

44:52

think a lot of this feels

44:54

like childhood trauma almost. You know,

44:56

it's just these lines, especially that,

44:58

we are brave, your Highness, it's

45:00

just always wound me up since

45:02

I was a kid. And so

45:04

people listening probably think that's a

45:06

bizarre, way worse lines than that,

45:08

Luke. But it's just, I'm being

45:10

honest. It's what winds me up.

45:12

It's what winds me up. It's

45:15

what winds me up. It's what

45:17

winds me up. It's what winds

45:19

me up. It's what winds me

45:21

up. If we're not queuing, we

45:23

moan about queuing but we also

45:25

love it. Well I think that's

45:27

three pretty solid picks of each

45:29

side. Do you have any that

45:31

didn't make the list for your

45:33

best because I've got one or

45:35

two which I'll just shout out.

45:38

I mean it is mostly jar

45:40

jars. lines. I hate to be

45:42

that guy. Really, you know, some

45:44

of them are just crazy. Absolutely

45:46

crazy. But no, go on, enlighten

45:48

me, ma'am. I've not really anything

45:50

else done. The other shout-out was

45:52

that, are you an angel? But

45:54

no, I get that. So I've

45:56

only got a cut. I've said

45:58

all of my worst. So in

46:01

terms of the ones that didn't

46:03

make the list for the best.

46:05

I do like always too. There

46:07

are no more, no more, no

46:09

less, no less, a master and

46:11

a master and an apprentice. A

46:13

master and a master and a

46:15

master and an apprentice. I think

46:17

I love that line. It's so

46:19

foreshadowing and the way it pans

46:21

over to Palpatina's world. I think

46:24

that's excellently done. I also like

46:26

Anna and Skywalker. Meet Obie one

46:28

can Obie. I like that one

46:30

because again, foreshadowing. I agree. When

46:32

Palpatine says there is no civility,

46:34

only politics. I'm like, again, prescient,

46:36

very prescient. The don't center on

46:38

your anxieties. Keep your concentration here

46:40

and now where it belongs, but

46:42

not at the expense of the

46:44

moment. I like that as an

46:47

opening line from Quigon. And then

46:49

finally, I actually can't believe this

46:51

didn't make the list, but I'll

46:53

throw it out there anyway for

46:55

everyone to mock me for not

46:57

having this on my list. You

46:59

say no tinking, you say greater

47:01

than the Gungans? Me say like

47:03

this. Me, we say, maybe we

47:05

say being friends. Now, maybe that's

47:07

what you need to be doing

47:10

in Japan, mate, to get yourself

47:12

a Japanese wifee. That's what you

47:14

need to be doing. Maybe we

47:16

used to be in Friends. Did

47:18

you put it back before we

47:20

can say, oh no. Listen, we've

47:22

not included any Saobib or Weaver,

47:24

right, and he's got some great

47:26

lines, you know, so... We could

47:28

just be here day in day

47:30

out talking about fantasy. No, Wato

47:33

either. Seen by scene. Yeah, but

47:35

Wato's ultimately just one of the

47:37

best characters ever written. So yeah,

47:39

I read a really funny fact

47:41

about Wato today, which I was

47:43

going to send it to you

47:45

by text, but I thought, do

47:47

you know what? I thought I'll

47:49

save it for for the show.

47:51

Basically, there was a, when George

47:53

Lucas... When Watto was first bought

47:55

at a big screen in a

47:58

Phantom Menace, the Phantom Menace, like

48:00

because he's a flying creature, people

48:02

who are aware of like people

48:04

like who study birds and aviary

48:06

characters were like, mow, his wings

48:08

are too small. They wouldn't be

48:10

able to hold his weight. They

48:12

were able to keep him up.

48:14

And to watch Lucas. basically said,

48:16

well, you know, his digestive system

48:18

actually filled his belly with Helium,

48:21

so he's essentially a blimp rather

48:23

than a bird, and which is

48:25

the most George thing. He's actually

48:27

a blimp because his food turns

48:29

into Helium. What? He's like a...

48:31

So why does he need the

48:33

wings, George? it doesn't need to

48:35

be like well look it is

48:37

star wars guys yeah it's fantasy

48:39

you don't need to fill all

48:41

this stuff but isn't it fun

48:44

right isn't it fun because of

48:46

that. Of course, maybe. Proper Georgie.

48:48

It is proper Georgie, ma'am. What

48:50

an episode. I can't wait. I

48:52

can't wait for Attack of the

48:54

Clones, Last Jedi, actually, all of

48:56

them. There are some quarters in

48:58

all of the films, all of

49:00

them. All of them. All of

49:02

them. And the series. Oh, ma'am.

49:04

Obviously, Clone Wars and Rebels. We'll

49:07

find a way for those, because

49:09

there's like 70 to 100 episodes,

49:11

but 120 episodes. There are some,

49:13

yeah, there are some. Good chat,

49:15

mate. As always, mate, as always,

49:17

Matt, are you? An angel? Are

49:19

you? Yeah? You're a funny little

49:21

co-host. I'm a slave and my

49:23

name is Maddie. And you're listening

49:25

to Star Wars sessions, which is

49:27

probably the UK's best Star Wars

49:30

program. Oh, what a way to

49:32

begin this fun series with the

49:34

Phantom Minutes, the best and worst

49:36

lines from the film. So there

49:38

were our choices, our three best,

49:40

our three worst, and a host

49:42

of honourable vengeance. But of course,

49:44

as we do every week, we

49:46

threw open the doors and we

49:48

invited you guys to give... Your

49:50

selection of best and worst. So,

49:53

Lukeie Boy, let's head on over

49:55

to threads and IG and all

49:57

those good places. What have you

49:59

got this week? We got to

50:01

start off on Instagram with Phantom

50:03

Menace 1999, oh boy. One of

50:05

the best accounts on Instagram, by

50:07

the way. Go follow. All Phantom

50:09

Menace, nostalgia, adverts, promotional stuff toys.

50:11

It's amazing. He says best, a

50:13

communication, destruction can mean only one

50:15

thing. invasion. Yeah, again. right yes

50:18

does it is that oh okay

50:20

worst if we can't get if

50:22

we can't get the shield generator

50:24

fixed we'll be sitting ducks never

50:26

felt like a Star Wars line

50:28

before now this is something that

50:30

I totally forgotten about but I

50:32

did reply reminding him that we

50:34

found out do you remember when

50:36

we got the original script to

50:38

Star Wars and New York, right?

50:41

But years ago we had that

50:43

and we were looking through the

50:45

lines and what changed on what

50:47

was what was Maybe edited or

50:49

evolved There was a crazy line

50:51

in the original draft where Hans

50:53

Solo was going to say let's

50:55

blow this turkey and go home.

50:57

I'm referring to the death star

50:59

like But I agree. I agree

51:01

the ducks thing weird Don't need

51:04

to, don't, don't need it. We'll

51:06

be soon. Ducks. Yeah, I know,

51:08

I agree, I got it. Yeah,

51:10

that's one anyway. Julian Kretinsky says

51:12

the best line is those orange

51:14

bigger fish. I didn't think about

51:16

it. I know, I know, I

51:18

forgot about that as well. But

51:20

we do, we do use that

51:22

quite often. Chris Fox, canobie collects,

51:24

says best, feel, don't think, use

51:27

your instincts. Great. That's a good

51:29

one. That's a good one in

51:31

it. That's a really good one.

51:33

Worst, better dead here than dead

51:35

in the core. What? I mean,

51:37

so saying that's that's the one

51:39

we referred to earlier. That's the

51:41

full line. Yeah, excellent, excellent shout.

51:43

May, what else are people saying

51:45

on? Let me check threads as

51:47

well, but you start first. No

51:50

worries, mate. I'll head on over

51:52

to Blue Sky, where our boy,

51:54

Eve Ev Evangel, Eve Evangel, Eve

51:56

Evangelad. Anything Quaygon says is the

51:58

best. The top contenders are your

52:00

focus to term as your reality

52:02

and the ability to speak does

52:04

not make you intelligent. Again, very

52:06

pressing. And the worst, I'm going

52:08

to... be very obvious here. Are

52:10

you an angel? So I've got

52:13

a person who wasn't the biggest

52:15

fan of that line and over

52:17

on the old book face. Liberty

52:19

Timmons, Timothy Limmon says the worst,

52:21

I spag. Yeah, she says I

52:23

do like jar jar in general

52:25

but most of the lines are

52:27

hard to take. Best is probably

52:29

Shmi Skywalka saying you can't stop

52:31

change any more than you can

52:33

stop the sundrum setting. Love that.

52:36

It was so honest and simple

52:38

and true. James Lee Ling, he

52:40

said, the best line, at last

52:42

we will reveal ourselves to the

52:44

Jedi, last we shall have revenge.

52:46

The worst line in line, but

52:48

the worst was Boston has to

52:50

shake in his head like a

52:52

dog. Brian Blessid should have been

52:54

given better to work with. So

52:56

yeah, there you go, best and

52:58

worst there. Yeah, I got one

53:01

here, Todd Plantin' and Thread, said

53:03

my favourite line, I will not

53:05

condone a course of action that

53:07

will lead us to war, Queen

53:09

Amadala. Oh, I had some more

53:11

than... Honorable mentions, I must have

53:13

missed that one. Yeah, did you

53:15

mention it? I know. Did you

53:17

mention it? I know I did

53:19

mention it. Okay, but that was

53:21

the only person that said it,

53:24

mate. So you've got one fan

53:26

out there. It's like, yeah, ma'

53:28

ma'. Wizard. Oh mate. And when

53:30

they said that Mando, that Book

53:32

of Bobafet, episode, you know the

53:34

one where it's just Mando for

53:36

two episodes. Because of course. Yeah.

53:38

Rich like 25% of the season.

53:40

I love it mate. Fantastic. Fan.

53:42

Book of Bobafet and what? What

53:44

a fun topic though, right? What

53:47

a fun idea. And this series,

53:49

I can't wait to carry it

53:51

on mate. It's going to be

53:53

a great laugh. Yeah, can't wait

53:55

to carry it on and a

53:57

part of that is because I

53:59

can't wait to hear what you

54:01

guys bring to the table that

54:03

we've either forgotten or because of

54:05

personal preference we just did not

54:07

think about. So thank you everybody

54:10

for sending in. your comments. If

54:12

you didn't hear yourself mentioned this

54:14

week, please do continue to send

54:16

in your comments and we'll do

54:18

everything we can to get you

54:20

featured on an upcoming episode of

54:22

Star Wars Sessions. best pancreas I've

54:24

not done that in a little

54:26

while but it's big it's still

54:28

good to be bad mate it's

54:30

still really good to be bad

54:33

wait patron question section of course

54:35

it's the spices part of the

54:37

bit about Bantina and then we

54:39

we got lovely this they'll actually

54:41

question but this person's used their

54:43

questions just drop us a message

54:45

basically it's on Edwin 10. No

54:47

questions from me, but just a

54:49

warm welcome back to Luke. Matt

54:51

and his excellent guest hosts have

54:53

done a sterling job holding down

54:56

the fort in your absence, but

54:58

it's so good. So good. To

55:00

hear your voice again and sounding

55:02

so well too. Edwin, thank you

55:04

so much mate, means the absolute

55:06

world. Once again, the support has

55:08

been immeasurable from people. So... Yeah,

55:10

keep listening, keeps a point. Means

55:12

a lot, thank you. Thank you

55:14

for the calm. I'm worse than

55:16

well open. Yeah, ma'am. And we

55:19

got some exciting stuff coming up

55:21

too. Yeah, I'll say that. I'll

55:23

say that. Stay tuned, because we've

55:25

got some... some of our best

55:27

episodes still to come to be

55:29

honest main line I know I

55:31

know I know it so I

55:33

mean best and worst attack the

55:35

clones episode give me mental you

55:37

watch when you're back from Japan

55:39

can we do the attack of

55:41

a clone to one please I

55:44

know it already it's gonna happen

55:46

it's gonna happen it's gonna happen

55:48

that shitty has our next question

55:50

mate he says hi guys firstly

55:52

glad Luke is doing well thank

55:54

you so much What do you

55:56

both feel would be considered a

55:58

successful Star Wars celebration? Movie announcements,

56:00

animated etc. It's a great opportunity

56:02

for Disney and Lucas film to

56:04

give a clear vision of the

56:07

next few years. Keep up the

56:09

great work map. What are you

56:11

saying mate? Chitty Chitty Bang Bang,

56:13

a successful Star Wars celebration would

56:15

be if I could make the

56:17

line, are you an angel work?

56:19

That's my only criteria. No, for

56:21

me mate, I think actually in

56:23

keeping with how the convention already

56:25

is shaping up, but for me

56:27

less is more. That's how I

56:30

think it's going to be a

56:32

success and what do I mean

56:34

by that? And that was the

56:36

new animated series, which they've said

56:38

they're going to do. an update

56:40

on a series season two. I

56:42

think we're going to get that

56:44

in the panel. We're going to

56:46

get an update on Mando and

56:48

Grogu, things which are happening, things

56:50

which we know are going on.

56:53

If there is the right time

56:55

and space to give an update

56:57

on the films, i.e. like the

56:59

celebration stage where they used to

57:01

do the Star Wars show, maybe

57:03

Wheelout Castle and Kennedy to discuss

57:05

those, but for me, less is

57:07

more. We haven't got a Lucas

57:09

Film Studio showcase, so let's not

57:11

worry about giving us new film

57:13

announcements. If they do great, but

57:16

pinch of salt as always, less

57:18

is more. Just focus, your focus

57:20

the term is reality. Give us

57:22

information on the things which we

57:24

know are happening. For me, less

57:26

Luke, but for me, you know,

57:28

in terms of outside of the

57:30

films. I'd love to know a

57:32

bit more about that. So, you

57:34

know, with the respawn game, maybe

57:36

give me a little bit about

57:39

Jedi 3. With the publishing panel

57:41

for the book sick heads out

57:43

there, what can we look forward

57:45

to in the next year or

57:47

so coming out? So that to

57:49

me is what will be a

57:51

success. It's given us stuff which

57:53

we know is going to happen

57:55

because we know it's happening because

57:57

it's signed sealed and delivered. the

57:59

other week where we were saying

58:01

do you think there'll be another

58:04

celebration yeah I think they're

58:06

gonna go all out on

58:08

a 2027 50th anniversary of

58:10

a new hope Star Wars

58:12

extravaganza right so probably in

58:14

Anaheim probably in Anaheim I think

58:16

they'll skip next year like I

58:19

said before not again I know

58:21

nothing I'm just going by gut

58:23

feeling I wouldn't be surprised if

58:25

they do skip next year I

58:27

wouldn't be surprised That being

58:30

said, mate, there's a film

58:32

coming next year. There's a

58:34

film. And there's a Soaker season

58:36

too. And I think they're going

58:38

to use that to maybe. And

58:40

I think Tokyo will tell us

58:43

if this maybe will happen. Well,

58:45

obviously we're going to have the

58:47

closing ceremony. You might even be

58:49

there. And we're like, oh, Luke,

58:51

it's going to Newcastle. Imagine that

58:53

that'd be mental. Or like, like,

58:56

like, Frankfurt, or, you know, I'd

58:58

be up for another, obviously, I

59:00

was banging the drum saying, I

59:02

think it should be in Tokyo

59:04

this year because why not give,

59:07

why not let the world have

59:09

celebration, don't just keep it to

59:11

Europe and America. I get

59:13

that, you know, they're the biggest

59:15

hotspots of fandom, but then to

59:17

say that Japan, Australia, and wherever

59:19

I don't have that would be

59:21

wrong. However, if it's going to

59:23

come to Europe, I would love to

59:26

Europe, I get to go to another

59:28

new city, so win, win, chicken,

59:30

win, chicken, dinner there, but... Oh,

59:33

it's okay. That's it, mate, like

59:35

I've said, they will be preaching

59:37

to the choir by saying we're

59:39

going to advertise the Mando film

59:42

to you Star Wars, we're going

59:44

to Star Wars fans, we're going

59:46

to see it anyway. Same with

59:48

a Soka season too. That kind

59:50

of gives me pause, but then

59:53

there's no D23 until all out

59:55

in 2027. That's what I think

59:57

they'll do. I genuinely think we'll get

59:59

one in. March, maybe April. It won't

1:00:01

be. It won't be. It will

1:00:03

be within 12 months if they

1:00:05

do it. If they do it.

1:00:07

That's what I'm thinking. In terms

1:00:09

of success, I think I would

1:00:11

agree with you, mate. And I

1:00:14

do assume, Matt, you are talking

1:00:16

about Japan. I think Lucas film

1:00:18

have to come across and deliver

1:00:20

that they are organized. Then they're

1:00:22

not just announcing stuff willy-nilly. Because

1:00:24

that's... what they have been doing,

1:00:26

right? They do, oh yeah, we're

1:00:28

doing a James Mangold film. Oh,

1:00:30

are you? Right. Okay, because now,

1:00:32

two years on, by the way,

1:00:34

it's two years since Celebration London.

1:00:36

Don't. Two years. Like, as when

1:00:38

this episode comes out, and even

1:00:40

while we're recording it, mate, it's

1:00:42

been two years since celebration. So

1:00:44

that, yeah, I know, which is

1:00:46

warm, a minute. Yeah phenomenal phenomenal

1:00:48

times and you're gonna have a

1:00:50

phenomenal time in Tokyo May I've

1:00:52

been seeing all the like a

1:00:54

lot of people flying out our

1:00:56

boy Dave done of course flew

1:00:58

out the other day yeah and

1:01:00

he's there now as well as

1:01:02

of yesterday I think yeah is

1:01:04

it starting to film more real

1:01:06

for you um quite just quickly

1:01:08

then yes it is because I've

1:01:10

still got a few things to

1:01:12

do before next Monday still a

1:01:14

few pretty sick things to get

1:01:16

stuck into and I've also got

1:01:18

a two more days of work

1:01:20

to get past but that aside

1:01:23

it is now starting to feel

1:01:25

real like the suitcase is pretty

1:01:27

much packed I've got almost everything

1:01:29

I need apart from my haircut

1:01:31

yeah I've got my I've got

1:01:33

all my transport to and from

1:01:35

the airport in terms of an

1:01:37

orator to where I'm staying to

1:01:39

pay for that last night it's

1:01:41

very real I'm kind of at

1:01:43

that point now where I'm like

1:01:45

I just kind of wish it

1:01:47

was here rather than sitting in

1:01:49

a dwelling on it too much.

1:01:51

You are going to have such

1:01:53

a sick time. I ultimately agree.

1:01:55

I think we're going to get

1:01:57

updates on games, animation, a soaker,

1:01:59

Mando, and or the thing is

1:02:01

that the panel lottery mate if

1:02:03

I had to pick on on

1:02:05

the panels yeah which I know

1:02:07

was an absolute fiasco yeah stupid

1:02:09

well a farce right to be

1:02:11

honest call a spade a spade

1:02:13

I think it's ridiculous but I

1:02:15

do think you'll be able to

1:02:17

get into something I think they'll

1:02:19

be like queuing systems and over

1:02:21

I hope I really really hope

1:02:23

either way I think the mando

1:02:25

panel I wouldn't be surprised if

1:02:27

we do get some sort of

1:02:29

roadmap and I think a roadmap

1:02:32

would be good but it could

1:02:34

be mate that they're saving that

1:02:36

for next year it really could

1:02:38

be a like a Soka they're

1:02:40

gonna do a teaser for Mando

1:02:42

and Grogu as well but they'll

1:02:44

just a bit like Anaheim will

1:02:46

get like a bigger trailer next

1:02:48

year and I wouldn't be surprised

1:02:50

if they do a celebration Orlando

1:02:52

they'll go big on Mando and

1:02:54

Grogu marketing, but more on like,

1:02:56

okay, so after this film, this

1:02:58

is where this is all going,

1:03:00

right? This is where that's going.

1:03:02

We've got a soak of season

1:03:04

two come in, because they need

1:03:06

to seem organized. That being said,

1:03:08

maybe that you can just, you

1:03:10

could say that and say, well,

1:03:12

that's just as much reason not

1:03:14

to do it. Yeah, there's not

1:03:16

a lot to talk about. I

1:03:18

don't know, whatever. I feel like

1:03:20

this will be a successful celebration.

1:03:22

And there's also on-the-ground stuff, right?

1:03:24

Needs to be organized, they need

1:03:26

to check tickets properly, there needs

1:03:28

to be space for people to

1:03:30

walk around. But ultimately if people

1:03:32

are talking about the brand and

1:03:34

talking about these projects and films

1:03:36

online because of celebration, that's a

1:03:38

good thing. Friday, mate, people will

1:03:40

be waking up to a Mando

1:03:43

and Grogu trailer. Yeah, man. Yeah.

1:03:45

It's exciting. I mean, I'll obviously

1:03:47

be... reporting on one way or

1:03:49

another which was still going to

1:03:51

decide but obviously things you just

1:03:53

said like what is it like

1:03:55

in the convention center is it

1:03:57

the the show that it was

1:03:59

in London where if you got

1:04:01

a ticket I don't worry about

1:04:03

showing it in your go type

1:04:05

it wasn't great But then some

1:04:07

people were being strip-searched almost, were

1:04:09

like, you get over there, patted

1:04:11

down. It was wild. So I'll

1:04:13

be able to give a boots

1:04:15

on the ground, look, how the

1:04:17

convention is, is it oversold, is

1:04:19

it better run, blah blah blah.

1:04:21

But yeah, the security can be

1:04:23

like, there's a British guy walking

1:04:25

around asking people if there are

1:04:27

angels, everybody, you know? Ask him

1:04:29

if they want to go to

1:04:31

7-Eleven to get one of those

1:04:33

sweet sweet egg Mayo sandwiches. Oh

1:04:35

man I saw Maggie Love at

1:04:37

the collider correspondent the big dog

1:04:39

over at collider she'd posted on

1:04:41

X actually had one of those

1:04:43

sandwiches and then she had just

1:04:45

like big deal then okay big

1:04:47

deal and she had this like

1:04:49

strawberry and cheese sandwich. A strawberry

1:04:52

and cream sandwich, I'm like, this,

1:04:54

none of this works, but it

1:04:56

was from a 7-11 or a

1:04:58

family mile, and I might, I

1:05:00

mean, I mean, yeah, but you,

1:05:02

you know it's gonna just taste

1:05:04

phenomenal, don't you? You just know.

1:05:06

I really wish I could bring

1:05:08

one back for you, mate, that's

1:05:10

the one thing I wish I

1:05:12

could do, do it. It might

1:05:14

stink, like stink or whiff. Yeah,

1:05:16

don't worry, mate, mate, I'll go

1:05:18

back to hospital, or worth it.

1:05:20

Worth it mate. Have you seen

1:05:22

they've got some celebration Tamagocchis as

1:05:24

well? That's pretty cool. I mean,

1:05:26

yeah, how I mean, I'm not

1:05:28

into all that anymore, but like,

1:05:30

I mean, I do like it.

1:05:32

I mean, the exclusive stuff they've

1:05:34

got, some of it is pretty

1:05:36

cool. Some of it, like, yeah,

1:05:38

some of it, I'm like, I

1:05:40

wouldn't buy that in a million

1:05:42

or wear that if you paid

1:05:44

me a million bucks, but some

1:05:46

of the stuff though is very,

1:05:48

is very cool, is very cool.

1:05:50

I've been laying tickets being laying

1:05:52

tickets to the tickets to the

1:05:54

tickets to the tickets to the

1:05:56

shop. I won't say what time,

1:05:58

but I've got it on Friday.

1:06:01

So hopefully there'll be some stuff

1:06:03

there and like I've always said,

1:06:05

luke your boy, if you need

1:06:07

anything, obviously do let me know

1:06:09

and I'll see what I can

1:06:11

do. But yeah, so I've got

1:06:13

that on Friday looking forward to

1:06:15

that. Yeah, and like in London,

1:06:17

some of the things are a

1:06:19

bit waft, some of it is

1:06:21

great. I'm more excited actually. to

1:06:23

go down artist alley and see

1:06:25

the custom pieces which are being

1:06:27

done. Did you see they got

1:06:29

that, um, like food menu? Oh

1:06:31

mate, you're like on the socials,

1:06:33

mate, oh can I have the

1:06:35

forbidden love on Aguirre please? Yes

1:06:37

I can. It's cool that they've

1:06:39

gone, it's cool that they've gone

1:06:41

Star Wars, you know, in it.

1:06:43

Is there a speed dating section?

1:06:45

Look about that, didn't we? On

1:06:47

the last, the last tips and

1:06:49

tricks we then, in 2023, we

1:06:51

were like, speed dating, what? And

1:06:53

then we did the patron show

1:06:55

about it, like, who goes to

1:06:57

celebration for speed dating? But I

1:06:59

guess it's probably wildly popular. That

1:07:01

was a thing by the way

1:07:03

listener they used to have speed

1:07:05

dating and maybe when bring it

1:07:07

back cowards cowards So tell what

1:07:10

what's your favorite Star Wars film?

1:07:12

It's not a good Star Wars

1:07:14

film Yeah, and then I'll be

1:07:16

like, oh, I love the lines

1:07:18

that Rose Tico delivers. They're so

1:07:20

good. They're so good. Right. We're

1:07:22

beefing out. We're beefing out the

1:07:24

episode, but go on, mate. Crack

1:07:26

on. What's on next? What's on

1:07:28

next? What's on next? No, it's

1:07:30

great. I just love talking. I

1:07:32

love talking Seli Bee, mate. Just

1:07:34

think this time next week, you're

1:07:36

going to be in... This time

1:07:38

next week I'll be over the

1:07:40

side of the world again. Not

1:07:42

going to drop my itinerary just

1:07:44

yet, but I've got some cool

1:07:46

things lined up, so I'm looking

1:07:48

forward to sharing that with everyone.

1:07:50

But let's move on then. Good

1:07:52

shout, Matt. Thank you. It's always

1:07:54

great to hear from me, Matt,

1:07:56

by the way. Another person we

1:07:58

love hearing from is Liberty Timmons,

1:08:00

who says, hey, hey, with celebration

1:08:02

coming up, everyone. is talking about

1:08:04

what announcements they want. It has

1:08:06

been thinking about the content we've

1:08:08

already got. Have we been too

1:08:10

heavy on the Disney Plus content?

1:08:12

Too many TV series and not

1:08:14

enough movies. Streaming seems to be

1:08:16

struggling more now that we have

1:08:18

fully set it into it as

1:08:21

if the newness has worn off.

1:08:23

What formats and timing do you

1:08:25

think would best benefit Lucasome at

1:08:27

this point? Should we stay in

1:08:29

the vein vein of the streaming

1:08:31

series being... at the forefront, bringing

1:08:33

us the new law and canon,

1:08:35

two or more series a year.

1:08:37

Go back to aiming for big

1:08:39

screen content every three years, which

1:08:41

seems to keep us more hungry

1:08:43

as fans. I personally think we

1:08:45

have gotten too much content leading

1:08:47

to a fatigue of sort. Hope

1:08:49

Luke is stronger every day. Thanks

1:08:51

Matt for steering the ship until

1:08:53

we can get the two of

1:08:55

you back together again. Thank you

1:08:57

liberty for your kind words in

1:08:59

my steering of the ship and

1:09:01

Luke who can speak for himself

1:09:03

as to whether he's getting stronger

1:09:05

every day but what do you

1:09:07

think then, Lukeie boy? What do

1:09:09

you think about streaming movies? What's

1:09:11

the future going to hold? Well

1:09:13

tibity lemons, my powers have doubled

1:09:15

since we last Matt. Yeah, good

1:09:17

point. Oh no. Spoke too soon.

1:09:19

I think films are the way

1:09:21

to go. Films are the way

1:09:23

to go. You're bang on the

1:09:25

money, tibity, you know, no matter

1:09:27

what I think of the series

1:09:30

individually. I do think there's been

1:09:32

too much and I think it's

1:09:34

unfair on consumers, not us Star

1:09:36

Wars nerds and really the nerd

1:09:38

pop culture zeitgeist fandom in general.

1:09:40

But the people that actually make

1:09:42

up these numbers, yeah, the general

1:09:44

population, Star Wars is still and

1:09:46

was a massive franchise and IP

1:09:48

that has mass appeal. And I

1:09:50

think when things have mass appeal,

1:09:52

it does do better at a

1:09:54

cinema. I think it's asking a

1:09:56

lot for people to tune in

1:09:58

weekly to a show and then...

1:10:00

Learn about a new show with

1:10:02

a different name with a different

1:10:04

plot with a different premise with

1:10:06

different characters You see where I'm

1:10:08

going there and doing that two

1:10:10

to three times a year In

1:10:12

hindsight everything's clear in hindsight, but

1:10:14

in hindsight. It was really silly

1:10:16

and you know Matt and I

1:10:18

I may we have a reputation

1:10:20

It's something I'm very proud of,

1:10:22

is that we're quite balanced. We

1:10:24

try to be fair. Generally, we're

1:10:26

quite positive, but we're not blinded

1:10:28

by daft decisions. We're not daft

1:10:30

blinded by poor content at times,

1:10:32

simply put yeah. And I think

1:10:34

that there has been a few

1:10:36

missteps, a few mishaps, and really

1:10:39

there needs to be a focus

1:10:41

on quality, not quantity. I think

1:10:43

you'll bang on the money once

1:10:45

again films every few years a

1:10:47

series every few years and I

1:10:49

think a series of films that

1:10:51

is when it comes to streaming

1:10:53

the state of streaming is still

1:10:55

in kind of its early phases

1:10:57

and I think companies are learning

1:10:59

that it's not as profitable as

1:11:01

they thought it would be. We're

1:11:03

now post lockdown. Right, so we're

1:11:05

still learning, what's the future of

1:11:07

cinema going to be? You know,

1:11:09

cinema con was the other week,

1:11:11

right, out in Vegas. And I

1:11:13

think a lot of people have

1:11:15

been talking there about the future

1:11:17

of cinema. Look, it's too expensive.

1:11:19

Theatas, they're too expensive. A family

1:11:21

ain't taken like four kids, three

1:11:23

kids, two kids, two kids, to

1:11:25

the cinema. If you're on... a

1:11:27

working class wage, you can't afford

1:11:29

it. True? That needs to change.

1:11:31

That needs to change. And that

1:11:33

ain't on the studios, I don't

1:11:35

think. I think that's a lot

1:11:37

on, I think it's a mix

1:11:39

actually of studios and theatres, but,

1:11:41

streaming's in a similar predicament, man.

1:11:43

Like the money isn't necessarily there.

1:11:45

The views aren't necessarily there. And

1:11:48

I think Disney can, Lucas, from

1:11:50

Disney, can box a little smarter

1:11:52

with their content. Paramount, so now

1:11:54

I'm going to a bit of

1:11:56

a roundhouse, I do apologize mate,

1:11:58

but Paramount have done something really

1:12:00

interesting, at least here in the

1:12:02

UK, I don't know if this

1:12:04

is in the US, but they've

1:12:06

taken one of their biggest... on

1:12:08

their platform Paramount Plus in Yellowstone.

1:12:10

Yeah. And they've put it on

1:12:12

Netflix. They've said, look, to get

1:12:14

eyes on there, let's put it

1:12:16

on Netflix for a limited time.

1:12:18

Gets eyes on the show. Are

1:12:20

you telling me, mate, imagine if

1:12:22

the Mandalorian was put on Netflix.

1:12:24

Yeah. The customer base, the reach.

1:12:26

It's so much larger than Disney

1:12:28

Plus and Disney Plus is still

1:12:30

a big deal, but Netflix just

1:12:32

so far ahead. So far ahead.

1:12:34

No one's catching them up any

1:12:36

time soon. No one. And I,

1:12:38

you know, there's things like that

1:12:40

that would really help the brand.

1:12:42

I would do that before the

1:12:44

film, you know, mate. I'm being

1:12:46

dead serious. I put mandolin seasons,

1:12:48

one, two, three. Put it on

1:12:50

Netflix for a couple months. Why

1:12:52

not? Maybe I'm being, maybe I'm

1:12:54

being silly. Quality not quantity, Matt.

1:12:57

Anything you want to add to

1:12:59

that rant? I just went on,

1:13:01

mate. I'm sorry buddy, sorry mate.

1:13:03

No, no, never, never apologize mate.

1:13:05

It's a, it's a really, really

1:13:07

good point. I, in an ideal

1:13:09

world, we would have something like

1:13:11

the Rayfield or whatever, the new

1:13:13

Jedi order film coming out. And

1:13:15

then to supplement that in a

1:13:17

way which wasn't required for youing,

1:13:19

you'd have a streaming series which

1:13:21

was taking place at the same

1:13:23

time, but in a different part

1:13:25

or whatever, but it's in the

1:13:27

same part of the timeline. So

1:13:29

if people watch it, they know

1:13:31

that it ties into the film.

1:13:33

You're not going to watch a

1:13:35

film about New Jedi Order and

1:13:37

then watching an old Republic series.

1:13:39

Hold on, does this connect all

1:13:41

that? I'd love that if I

1:13:43

had that connectivity. Like... I mean,

1:13:45

was it Yellowstone where they had

1:13:47

the film that came out as

1:13:49

well, the cost in the film?

1:13:51

Was that Yellowstone? Was it something

1:13:53

else? I can't remember it was

1:13:55

or not but I know that

1:13:57

there was a Kevin Costan lead

1:13:59

film based on like a Western

1:14:01

which was abysmal which if it

1:14:03

was that one would then tie

1:14:05

in be like oh wow you've

1:14:08

got this very very popular show

1:14:10

and we're gonna tie in by

1:14:12

releasing a film setting that same

1:14:14

universe I'm sure it was that

1:14:16

I will double take that in

1:14:18

the background but I know the

1:14:20

cost the cost is in yellow

1:14:22

That's it was I don't know

1:14:24

if it wasn't he's also he's

1:14:26

also in Robin Hood Prince of

1:14:28

Thieves he is everything he does

1:14:30

he does it for you and

1:14:32

the music very good and the

1:14:34

music from Robin Hood Prince of

1:14:36

Thieves was used in Disney adverts

1:14:38

like 15 years later. Yeah it

1:14:40

was good shout. I did that

1:14:42

in a patron in a journal

1:14:44

of Luke Lywalker episode covering Disney

1:14:46

I love that advert. It's like

1:14:48

from the bottom of your heart.

1:14:50

I remember when that song would

1:14:52

not leave the top of the

1:14:54

charts in the United Kingdom. I

1:14:56

remember it even as a young

1:14:58

lad, because I remember seeing that

1:15:00

film growing up, it was huge.

1:15:02

Are you talking about the theme

1:15:04

or are you talking about the

1:15:06

anything I do? I do it

1:15:08

for a book. I mean, yeah,

1:15:10

that, that was... Huge. It was

1:15:12

number one for like 14 weeks.

1:15:14

I've sung that in the UK.

1:15:17

16 weeks. I remember I remember

1:15:19

watching the film growing up because

1:15:21

it was like there was a

1:15:23

massive film when it came out.

1:15:25

So the film I was talking

1:15:27

about, I was talking about, Kevin

1:15:29

Kastner was, I think it's called

1:15:31

Horizon, I think it was, something

1:15:33

like that. I don't know. It

1:15:35

was terrible. But I don't know

1:15:37

if it actually ties into Yellow

1:15:39

Stone, but I don't actually think

1:15:41

we'd think we'd does or not.

1:15:43

I'd love to see a little

1:15:45

bit more synergy between streaming and

1:15:47

films. Yeah, but not in a

1:15:49

way where it's required. It's just,

1:15:51

you know, we're going to, okay,

1:15:53

for now we're going to do

1:15:55

this new Jedi order, okay, well,

1:15:57

this streaming series will release halfway

1:15:59

between in the three year period.

1:16:01

It will be set in the

1:16:03

same timeline, but we won't be

1:16:05

adding anyone in from the films.

1:16:07

I'd like that. Or, I mean,

1:16:09

I'd love the films to be

1:16:11

once every three years again. I

1:16:13

really would. The question I have

1:16:15

for you, though, Lukei Boy, is,

1:16:17

can that happen again? In a

1:16:19

world where Marvel, and again, Marvel

1:16:21

releases, or used to release three,

1:16:23

four, and a year, the DCU,

1:16:26

the DCU, the DCU, is kind

1:16:28

of taking its time to release

1:16:30

its films. Okay, so there's the

1:16:32

counterpoint to that. But do you

1:16:34

think we're living in a world

1:16:36

now where we will just get

1:16:38

a Star Wars film every three

1:16:40

years? Or does money talk? And

1:16:42

they think, well, you know, Force

1:16:44

Awakers and Rogue One and Last

1:16:46

Jedi did make money when we

1:16:48

released those years apart, ignoring solo.

1:16:50

Do you think we'd have them

1:16:52

yearly or do you think they'd

1:16:54

have the restraint to do it

1:16:56

every three years? Because for me

1:16:58

that works better and you could

1:17:00

feel that time with one streaming

1:17:02

series. Yes, correct. Halfway through that

1:17:04

time, but do you think they

1:17:06

can wait three years? And they

1:17:08

need to, I mean I don't

1:17:10

know, the really lame answer is

1:17:12

it very much depends on the

1:17:14

leadership. There is going to be

1:17:16

a massive shift and change in

1:17:18

leadership at Disney and all of

1:17:20

its umbrella companies in the coming

1:17:22

years. That's coming. Yeah, Bob Eiger

1:17:24

isn't going to be at Disney

1:17:26

much longer. He's the current CEO

1:17:28

of Disney. I'm pretty sure he's

1:17:30

one of those and both, I

1:17:32

don't know. she'll retire, a bit

1:17:35

like George isn't technically retired, he

1:17:37

still makes his own films, yeah,

1:17:39

but you know, come on, come

1:17:41

on. He's not either, he's not

1:17:43

the President Lucas film any longer,

1:17:45

and I think the same with

1:17:47

Kathy. I agree mate, and you're

1:17:49

bang on, great word, restraint, will

1:17:51

they show restraint? I hope so,

1:17:53

but the problem is, is the

1:17:55

Disney and all of these media

1:17:57

companies are publicly traded. companies, yeah,

1:17:59

they have shareholders and sometimes that

1:18:01

comes with, they need quote-unquote content.

1:18:03

They need to put stuff out

1:18:05

so that it gets butts and

1:18:07

seats, it gets eyes on their

1:18:09

product. And that's what it is.

1:18:11

It is a product. By the

1:18:13

way, that's not changed. That's still

1:18:15

what George did. That's what Peter

1:18:17

Jackson did with Lord of the

1:18:19

Rings. And these are all products

1:18:21

that sell tickets, that sell merchandise.

1:18:23

Don't get it twisted. This isn't

1:18:25

charity. Okay. So it's just how

1:18:27

you deal with that. And I'd

1:18:29

hope. I really hope they've learned

1:18:31

from that. Yeah. And I do

1:18:33

think right now they are learning

1:18:35

from that with the streaming series

1:18:37

and with the films. They've done

1:18:39

the same thing in both camps

1:18:41

now. They've both gone, let's pump

1:18:44

stuff out, let's do this, let's

1:18:46

do that. Yeah. Yeah, let's put

1:18:48

out three different Star Wars shows

1:18:50

in one year, all different characters,

1:18:52

all jumping around the timeline. It's

1:18:54

too much, it's too much, it's

1:18:56

too much. Quality over quantity, mate.

1:18:58

Let's save some of that budget.

1:19:00

Yeah. Let's put it to, like,

1:19:02

you look at Canobi? Yeah. They're

1:19:04

a big budget, but we know

1:19:06

where a lot of that went.

1:19:08

But let's say that we didn't

1:19:10

have, for example, and or a

1:19:12

or a Soaker, or Mando coming

1:19:14

out in the same year. not

1:19:16

taken up as much budget. Well,

1:19:18

let's put some more of that

1:19:20

budget into open one and it

1:19:22

also has a longer lead time

1:19:24

for production. I'm thinking hypothetically because,

1:19:26

as we always say, the COVID

1:19:28

production was, you know, destroyed that

1:19:30

series. Yeah, that's it. If you

1:19:32

look at it though, and things

1:19:34

like acalyte as well, it had

1:19:36

a big enough budget, which according

1:19:38

to reports today, that along with

1:19:40

a few other things went over

1:19:42

budget, but... You know, could the

1:19:44

alkali, and again this is horses

1:19:46

for courses here, there will be

1:19:48

people who don't agree with you

1:19:50

and I or or vice versa,

1:19:52

but with the longa lead time

1:19:55

with the alkali being the only

1:19:57

skin in the game, the only

1:19:59

dog in the yard, could it

1:20:01

have benefited from having an extra

1:20:03

couple of months of being like,

1:20:05

right, we've got nothing else on

1:20:07

the calendar, we don't have to

1:20:09

rush this. let's keep it in

1:20:11

there. We could say the same

1:20:13

for Skeleton crew, we might be

1:20:15

saying the same for Andor season

1:20:17

two, who knows, but I just

1:20:19

think with less things being pumped

1:20:21

out. In my idealistic padmay-like heading.

1:20:23

For me, I'm like, it gives

1:20:25

people more time to pass things

1:20:27

to go out if they're not

1:20:29

being pulled left right and center

1:20:31

to check out three or four

1:20:33

different things at once. And I

1:20:35

think there needs to be a

1:20:37

series that can actually continue. into

1:20:39

a series not a limited series

1:20:41

yeah start with the limited yeah

1:20:43

I fully agree skeleton crew great

1:20:45

fun great fun amazing show but

1:20:47

in hindsight you know again you

1:20:49

you want something that can continue

1:20:51

You want something that let's tune

1:20:53

in for that series, let's tune

1:20:55

in for that. It's all about

1:20:57

numbers though, isn't it? Whereas if

1:20:59

they, that's the problem, they're frightened

1:21:01

to, like, for example, Akkite could

1:21:04

have just been titled, like Star

1:21:06

Wars to hire a pup, you

1:21:08

know, something like that. But, and

1:21:10

the first season was what we

1:21:12

got, and then the second season

1:21:14

was, was going to be other

1:21:16

characters, but, I'm talking about anything.

1:21:18

because if the numbers aren't great,

1:21:20

so that's why I worry, that's

1:21:22

why they so loaved to commit

1:21:24

to anything other than limited series,

1:21:26

because it gives them an out,

1:21:28

doesn't it? And that's the problem

1:21:30

is, like you said, they answer

1:21:32

to shareholders at the end of

1:21:34

the day. And I would love

1:21:36

to see a long-running series, whether

1:21:38

it's Old Republic, High Republic, New

1:21:40

Jada, or whatever. I just fear

1:21:42

that if it doesn't do well

1:21:44

in the first season, will they,

1:21:46

will they do a clone wars

1:21:48

and continue anyway? or they just

1:21:50

put it. Yeah. It's true. It's

1:21:52

like, you know, when George, and

1:21:54

this is, this is a great

1:21:56

conversation for another time, the stars,

1:21:58

the stars. underworld show that George

1:22:00

was developing. But you can call

1:22:02

something that and still have it

1:22:04

as Star Wars underworld and have

1:22:06

all these different arcs. Yeah, that's

1:22:08

what May Clone Wars. Although I

1:22:10

preferred the linear story of Rebels,

1:22:13

you know, Clone Wars' strength is

1:22:15

that it could jump around from

1:22:17

character and character. You can go

1:22:19

a couple of arcs about seeing

1:22:21

really, like a deeper side of

1:22:23

Obu on Canob. Yeah, one of

1:22:25

the main characters of that show.

1:22:27

So you could label Book of

1:22:29

Bobafet, Mando, Asoka, like, yeah, this

1:22:31

is actually Star Wars Underworld. Yeah,

1:22:33

or The New Republic. Or The

1:22:35

New Republic, something called, like, yeah,

1:22:37

some, get creative people to call

1:22:39

it something very good. Yeah, original.

1:22:41

Din. Yeah. Starls. You know, it's

1:22:43

just a few things like that,

1:22:45

but yeah, you're right, you're right.

1:22:47

I think films are still as

1:22:49

well. final bit on this, the

1:22:51

backbone of Star Wars. They are

1:22:53

cinematic experiences and I think at

1:22:55

the end of day it's easier

1:22:57

to stick a film on in

1:22:59

the afternoon and blaze through a

1:23:01

series. A series is more intimidating

1:23:03

and it's more of a dedication.

1:23:05

Yeah, on ITV or was it,

1:23:07

no on E4 the other day,

1:23:09

they had Indiana Jones and not

1:23:11

Temple of Dame. Last Crusade. Last

1:23:13

Crusade, yeah, tuned in. Watch that,

1:23:15

a load of people on the

1:23:17

Discord when I am going to

1:23:19

jump in and watch that as

1:23:22

well. If I'm saying the same

1:23:24

thing about And or... Amazing show,

1:23:26

one of the best things Stoles

1:23:28

has ever made and put out,

1:23:30

right? But it's not the same

1:23:32

as like, yeah, I'll stick that

1:23:34

on, why not? Yeah, it's not

1:23:36

the same. So... Great question to

1:23:38

Petila men's. We love it mate.

1:23:40

We love it. And with a

1:23:42

film. If it's only an hour

1:23:44

and a half, well I'll stick

1:23:46

it out even if it's bad.

1:23:48

Whatever, however much demander and groke

1:23:50

who makes it in the box

1:23:52

office, whatever the case doesn't matter,

1:23:54

just wait to see the... the

1:23:56

reception that gets from Star Wars

1:23:58

fans simply because it is a

1:24:00

Star Wars film on the big

1:24:02

screen and it was made to

1:24:04

be a film on the big

1:24:06

screen. It's going to be special

1:24:08

whether it's the best film ever

1:24:10

I don't care. The fact is

1:24:12

I'm so pumped to see a

1:24:14

Star Wars film on the big

1:24:16

screen mate and you know it's

1:24:18

a year away until we're back

1:24:20

so well before we go there

1:24:22

maybe we've got one more from

1:24:24

Paul Buckle the Earl of Oxford

1:24:26

he says so. Oh, this

1:24:29

is actually yours to read Outlook.

1:24:31

Go on. You finish off. I'm

1:24:33

realizing like, I've been well excited.

1:24:35

You finish this one off, mate.

1:24:37

Well, this is a mental question

1:24:39

anyway, mate. So we've got pull

1:24:42

buckles. So droids, operating systems, etc.

1:24:44

have always been a bit vague

1:24:46

in the Star Wars universe. So

1:24:48

do you think it would be

1:24:50

possible to swap a service droids

1:24:52

in programming with a protocols? Troys.

1:24:55

It's programming. A bit like when

1:24:57

people run doom off of toothbrushes,

1:24:59

etc. This has got to be

1:25:01

one of the most mental questions

1:25:03

we've ever got. So if you

1:25:05

just like ran R4's personality off

1:25:07

of that like toothbrush or like

1:25:10

a hair shaver thing that Quagon

1:25:12

has in phantom menace, you know,

1:25:14

it would be a laugh. I

1:25:16

do think it's possible, mate, because

1:25:18

I think we've seen this already,

1:25:20

because in solo Star Wars story,

1:25:23

L3's OS gets put into the

1:25:25

Millennium Falcon. Yep, excellent shout, mate.

1:25:27

I was thinking of examples, and

1:25:29

I couldn't think of any, I

1:25:31

was like, well, K2 gets reprogrammed,

1:25:33

but he doesn't, from what we

1:25:35

see and what we know about

1:25:38

Rogue One, it's not because he's

1:25:40

had another droid consciousness put into

1:25:42

him, they just reprogrammed and they

1:25:44

just reprogrammed and they said, it.

1:25:46

Yeah man, it's like for me

1:25:48

I'm a bit like well Windows

1:25:51

and Mac they don't always share

1:25:53

secrecy things kind of always they're

1:25:55

not always compatible with each other

1:25:57

you know, the certain things work

1:25:59

on iOS and not on the

1:26:01

far superior Android system. So I'm

1:26:03

thinking there's also that, I think

1:26:06

if you were to put R2D2's

1:26:08

programming into C3PO, I don't know

1:26:10

if it works, mate, I think

1:26:12

they're incompatible. It would be great.

1:26:14

I think it's a case of

1:26:16

horses for courses again where some

1:26:19

will work because they have multi-compatibility

1:26:21

or whatever George would want to

1:26:23

call it. And there would be

1:26:25

some which a far too niche,

1:26:27

which you just can't get away

1:26:29

with. L2, L3 sorry in the

1:26:31

Falcon. Well that works because the

1:26:34

Falcon's a piece of junk which

1:26:36

accepts anything. I don't think you

1:26:38

could put three POs programming into

1:26:40

R2D2 as well. Yeah. They look

1:26:42

like they talk. He doesn't talk.

1:26:44

Well they beeps. Well also they

1:26:47

might have a bad motivator. There

1:26:49

we go. That's it by end

1:26:51

of. Yeah? Listen to this Paul.

1:26:53

Oh hang on. Right listen to

1:26:55

this Paul. So we'll end it

1:26:57

there. We'll end it there. We'll

1:26:59

end it there. We'll end there.

1:27:02

Are you an angel? Not Japanese?

1:27:04

Anatoattice? Anattoattice nica. Okay. Okay. You'll

1:27:06

have to send me that and

1:27:08

I'll have to make sure. I'll

1:27:10

send you that. Raise my eyebrow

1:27:12

at the same time. And Paul?

1:27:15

There you go, that's a brilliant

1:27:17

bit of advice for you as

1:27:19

well, buddy. Because obviously you're spending

1:27:21

time, I think Paul's been out

1:27:23

in Florida actually, it's been to

1:27:25

Disney doing something, I don't know.

1:27:27

I hope you're well mate, it's

1:27:30

lovely to hear from you, and

1:27:32

send us in how you play

1:27:34

doom. Do you play on a

1:27:36

toothbrush? People have done, it's like

1:27:38

Christopher Nolan, doesn't want his films

1:27:40

being watched on things like phones

1:27:43

and tablets, so, you know. Could

1:27:45

it be a node and effect

1:27:47

where when Iris only meant to

1:27:49

be on the operating system it

1:27:51

was meant to be seen on

1:27:53

or in his case the format

1:27:55

which was the big screen but

1:27:58

sorry. I've only got a TV

1:28:00

which isn't the size of a

1:28:02

cinema so can't help you out.

1:28:04

What a guy? What a guy?

1:28:06

Tenet, not so much, but decent

1:28:08

films otherwise. I can't stand Tenet,

1:28:11

my missus loved it. Really? She's

1:28:13

like, oh I love Tenet, I'll

1:28:15

say, oh what a load of

1:28:17

pretentious rubbish. Boring, it's funny because

1:28:19

it's one of those films where...

1:28:21

Oh yeah, but you're not, maybe

1:28:23

you're not supposed to know what

1:28:26

happens or it's meant to be

1:28:28

ambiguous. Like, yeah, it's bad storytelling.

1:28:30

It's ambiguous and then like, nobody

1:28:32

knows what's going on here. Throw

1:28:34

it in the bin like Southampton

1:28:36

Football Club. No, he's going all,

1:28:39

he's going all guns blazing now.

1:28:41

I mean, he's had the worst

1:28:43

season in years. I know, but

1:28:45

you had to sort of... No

1:28:47

mate, yeah, we... I've been saying

1:28:49

it since September we're going down

1:28:51

so I'm not too fussed by

1:28:54

that, but he says some gritty