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My name is Matt Hudson,

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aka Jabber the Hardin, joining

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me here as ever in

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the cockpit of the Essex

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Falcon is the greatest Star

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Wars man, founder buddy out

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there, Luke Blyemaster, Blywalker, how are

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you mate? Oyoy Savoloy, Matt, believe

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it or not, we are not

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reporting from a Berlin nightclub. We're

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in the light room in King's

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Cross, North-ish, Central, London. and we're

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in the media junk here aren't

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we made we're about to chat

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maybe hopefully to some and or

1:31

people but we've had an exciting

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day in London and we made

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it's being great man you've just

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actually had a very short chat

1:40

with Tony Guroy himself haven you

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did not I had a little

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nudge of Tony Guroy next time

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I'm not choking no you did

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it's this is real no look

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like Gioroy and Guroy spoke and

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worlds collided yeah unbelievable

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very I want to ask him what

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he thinks of the Tartokovsky clone

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was. Well we still got to ask him

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if you prefer as Toby Carver, or Gregs. Yeah no,

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right, there's a whole story about that. I basically wrote

2:05

some notes and Matt was like, is that all you've

2:08

written down to ask Faye Marseille? Because the way I've

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written my notes, because I'm a moron, it looks like,

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anyway, right, zero contracts now. But probably, probably, it's probably,

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probably, Gregs for me. Oh no, yeah, no, yeah, it's

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easier. It's easier, it's easier, it's easier, it's easier, it's

2:19

easier, it's easier, it, it's easier, it's easier, it's easier,

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it's easier, it's easier, it's easier, it's easier, it's easier,

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it's easier, it's easier, it's easier, it's easier, it's easier,

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it's easier, it's easier, it's easier, it's easier, it's easier,

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it's easier, it's easier, it's easier, it All of them

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if I could be so bold as

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to say, what about you? Yeah. I

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think the same. Obviously we had

2:36

a really good morning chatting to me.

2:39

Are we allowed to say we

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chat to at the hotel today? Yes

2:43

we are, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, we

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don't know. Matt's mad confused right

2:47

now. He's distracted. Yeah, sorry. I was

2:50

like somebody's in our personal space.

2:52

No, I know. That's just going to

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happen because we're at the edge

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of the carpet right now. Yes, because

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it's quite a small area, isn't

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it? So it's very small, it's

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very cozy. Exciting, very, very blessed,

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very honored to be here. Oh,

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Diego Luna. Oh, Diego, Luna. Oh,

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Diego, Luna. Oh, Diego, my days.

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Well, well. We're, he's, he looks

3:14

so good in like a bunker.

3:16

We are underground. An underground bunker. Um, someone's

3:19

just like one, really? Was that you? No, someone's dropped

3:21

one and is brilliant. In front of the A go instead.

3:23

I like these guys to our left. I don't know. I

3:25

think you might be right. Yeah, so we're in this massive

3:27

underground bunker. There are lights being projected. It's called the Light

3:29

Room in King's Cross. It's like an immersive experience room, isn't

3:31

it? It's crazy. It's like 40X on steroids on steroids. Yeah.

3:33

Yeah. Yeah. We have no idea. We have no idea what

3:35

we have no idea what we have no idea what we're

3:37

going to, what we're going to, what we're going to, what

3:39

we're going to, what we're going to, what we're going to,

3:41

what we're going to, what we're going to, what we're going

3:43

to, what we're going to, what we're going to, what we're

3:45

going to, what we're going to, what we're going to, what

3:47

Um, mate, what an intro. Should we see what happened? We

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don't even know. Yeah, well, we'll check back in. Hopefully

3:52

we've got some interviews for you. Yeah,

3:54

let's see. Right. May the force be

3:56

with you? I don't know what I'm

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saying. Peace. Let's crack on, yeah. So

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we're an audio podcast, so no

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cameras. I think we've met, no?

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We haven't, I wish we had.

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No, we haven't. No, we haven't.

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No. Probably I've seen you maybe

4:15

in Dirty Dancing too. Oh shit.

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You didn't have to bring that

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up. Oh my god, this is

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cool. This is all for you,

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dude. You must be very proud,

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joking aside. No, yes. We're recording,

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right. Are we recording? Here we

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go. Diego Luna congratulations first and

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foremost on Andor season two. Thank

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you very much. Thank you very

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much. Here we are. What do

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you hope people take from season

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two and specifically from

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Cassian's journey in it? Well I

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mean it's emotionally charged this second

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and last season you know we

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I mean we know what happens

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afterwards so everything is very like

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important in the life of these

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characters because there some of them

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about to make a choice you

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know an ultimate sacrifice to to

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to support and fight for the

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rebellion so everything means a lot

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in the second season because we

5:12

know the ending and it's it's

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it's interesting because you you don't

5:16

approach storytelling this way you know

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yeah but right now in fact

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it It does great to the

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material that Tony wrote, because by

5:24

knowing the end, you just raise

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the stakes, you know? And all

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these, I mean, the characters you

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meet here that you don't see

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in Road One, you're like, holy

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crap, what's gonna happen, right? And

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then, though, I mean. it just

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like it makes you see rogue

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one in a different way I

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think yes and in turn the

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original trilogy yes definitely like this

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I mean rogue one was already

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a prequel right somehow a prequel

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of a film and this is

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the prequel of that film but

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uh but the beauty of this

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is that rogue one has this

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very mistaken character called Cassian Andor

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and now we know what's behind

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every decision now we know what's

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behind that commitment that that and

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that again that sacrifice and I

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think it resignifies This second season

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resignifies the film, you know. It's

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going to be very intense, it's

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going to be packed of emotion,

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it is spectacular also, you know,

6:22

the amount of planets we visit,

6:25

the amount of characters we'll get

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to see from season one and

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the ones that are... have to

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come in because Rogue One is

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approaching. I'm sure you know what

6:36

I'm talking about. Yes, we do.

6:38

Big time. So, and it's, it's,

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there's a lot of action, there's

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a lot of mystery, there's a

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lot of, I mean, it's about

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a revolution and revolutions. are painful,

6:48

are painful, are dangerous, are dramatic.

6:51

Human. Yeah, I mean, and there's,

6:53

you know, one very important piece

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behind this is love, you know?

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Yes, which is a core theme

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of Star Wars. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Family, love. Family and love and belonging,

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it's behind this second season. You know

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what, I had a question for, I've

7:08

got lots of questions for you, but

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you know what I want to say,

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honestly, honestly, thank you, genuinely. I think

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And or is one of the greatest

7:17

shows, not in Star Wars, in the

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last 10 20 years. I'm being, I'm

7:21

being, and I'm not saying that as

7:23

a fan, thank you, that's it for

7:26

me. Means a lot, then. Can I

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argue, can I argue with that? Please,

7:30

thank you, can I argue with that?

7:32

Please, thank you, yeah, thank you, thank

7:34

you for your words, thank you. And

7:36

what's my favorite Star Wars film? And

7:38

have you, have you, have you seen

7:40

the second season the second season season

7:42

season? I have, I have seen anything

7:44

about it but I have seen it.

7:46

And did you see Rogue One afterwards?

7:48

What hurts? It hurts, I'm telling you

7:50

right now. It is, it is, it is

7:53

there, you know, it is, and it's

7:55

all the backstory we work, normally actors

7:57

work with, and that's why things signify...

7:59

so much, but now everyone knows

8:02

that backstory. It's hopeful, but it's

8:04

even more tragic now. It is.

8:06

Thanks for that. See you soon.

8:08

See you soon. Thank you. Thank

8:10

you, Buddy. Cheers. All right. I

8:12

don't get hooked in. That

8:17

was of course Diego Luna our

8:19

very own Cassian and or as

8:21

actually what I would rather refer

8:23

to him as hang on here

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we go I got the name

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Javier Suarez from Dirty Dancing to

8:29

Havana nights. Yeah, and I know

8:31

what you're thinking. Oh Luke,

8:33

what what did he smell like?

8:36

Yeah, he smelt incredible He smelt

8:38

incredible better than a

8:40

newborn baby. That's how I

8:43

can describe it. Sorry

8:45

lads Anyway, up next.

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Tony Gilroy, showrunner, the

8:49

born trilogy, writer, the creator

8:52

of Andor, and we have

8:54

a bit of fun with

8:56

this one. Session! Tony, please

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let me give you this.

9:01

I'm working. How are you

9:03

doing, buddy? We're good. We're

9:06

recording, we're live. You said

9:08

the other day, how Mandelorian

9:10

and Grogu. Those characters that

9:13

show paved the way for

9:15

and or without those guys

9:17

There's no and or I

9:20

loved that. Oh good. I loved that

9:22

because it's true and And or is

9:24

a different flavor that we get in

9:27

Star Wars 10 15 years ago Did

9:29

you pictures picture yourself making such a

9:31

thriller mystery political Star War show? No,

9:34

or is this a dream come true?

9:36

The answer is easy. No, right vision

9:38

any of this tonight No, because the

9:41

truth is, when I heard that this

9:43

show was being made, I didn't really

9:45

know what to make of it. That's

9:48

me being honest. Now, you weren't alone.

9:50

On it, genuinely, I'm not just saying this,

9:52

I think it's one of the best pieces

9:54

of Star Wars since 1980. And have you

9:56

seen the second season? Yes, I have. Okay,

9:58

good. Phenomenal. Thank you. Genuinely. Thank you.

10:01

Phenomenal. Loved it. Yeah, and you've

10:03

also stated recently that you're stepping

10:05

away from Star Wars after what?

10:07

Nearly a decade. Yeah, I mean,

10:09

I wasn't continuously, but the last

10:11

five and a half years continuously

10:13

every day. Yeah. And then row

10:15

again. So, I mean, from working

10:18

in Star Wars, what have you

10:20

learned that you can take away

10:22

to your future endeavors? Man, you

10:24

know what? I had a chance

10:26

to do 1,500 pages on the

10:28

planet. I became a better writer.

10:30

I mean, literally, at this late

10:32

stage in my career, I became

10:35

a better writer. Everything that came

10:37

off my desk was shot. I

10:39

got to see it. I mean,

10:41

I can't tell you how what

10:43

seasoning that is. I'm not going

10:45

to say how old I am

10:47

or how long I've been doing

10:49

this, but man, teach an old

10:52

dog nutrition. I really became a

10:54

better writer. Genuinely, I said this

10:56

show. We never get tired of

10:58

hearing it, man. I mean, no,

11:00

I mean, not because of, but

11:02

just it's like you spend so

11:04

much time alone working and you

11:06

want to know that it's landing.

11:08

And now that is all said

11:11

and done. How satisfied are you

11:13

with the ending? If you've done

11:15

season one, season two, two halves

11:17

of one story, do you feel

11:19

like you're able to achieve everything

11:21

you wanted to? Yeah, I'm very

11:23

proud. I'm very proud of what

11:25

we've done. And I'm very proud

11:28

of the team and I'm. No,

11:30

it's a it's a very satisfying

11:32

experience. You've created something very special.

11:34

So once again, thank you. Thank

11:36

you, guys. Thank you. Thanks, Tony.

11:38

Spread the word. Oh, mate. We

11:40

love a bit. Tony Gilroy. What

11:42

a dude. What an absolute dude.

11:45

Up next, we got everyone's favourite

11:47

ISB officer. Is du, du du

11:49

de deddra. Nero, aka Denise Goff,

11:51

who had actually spoken to not

11:53

long before this, I think a

11:55

few hours before, at the Corinthians.

11:57

in London. We can't include any

11:59

footage or audio from that in

12:02

this episode right now but I'm

12:04

sure a lot of you will

12:06

see that soon. Oh and Denise

12:08

also had this kind of fan

12:10

or like paddle ball bat. I

12:12

don't know ping pong ball bat.

12:14

I don't know what you'd call

12:16

it with Karl Soler's face on

12:19

it. Don't really know why, I

12:21

think someone gave it to her,

12:23

but that's what we talk about

12:25

in a moment, just for reference.

12:27

Anyway, I'll shut up, here is

12:29

the lovely Denise. Oh, sure. Hello

12:31

again. You again. Oh, no, no.

12:33

No, not him. Hang on, are

12:36

we? No, it wasn't. Are we

12:38

recording? Oh, yeah, we're recording. Right,

12:40

okay. Would you mind? Oh, great.

12:42

Right, okay. Look at this place.

12:44

I haven't actually looked. Isn't it?

12:46

This is all for you guys.

12:48

This is amazing. Isn't it? Isn't

12:50

it? Oh my God. Ten years

12:52

ago, could you picture this? No.

12:55

No, it's the short answer. I'm

12:57

sure that you want much more

12:59

information than that. No, is the

13:01

answer. But some more fun stuff.

13:03

What have you got in your

13:05

hand? Okay, so somebody, earlier on,

13:07

I played a game, somebody gave

13:09

me and Ben. Pictures of him

13:12

and I. chronic and deadra and

13:14

we had to answer questions like

13:16

this and I loved it so

13:18

much and I was using it

13:20

as a fan but then Kyle

13:22

had to leave so somebody made

13:24

me that. I'm jealous that we

13:26

didn't do that game. Yeah I

13:29

know you really threw it out

13:31

because we did the words we

13:33

did the words. I felt so

13:35

left out because I don't know

13:37

any of them. You know what

13:39

I mean? Deadra, Cyril, season two,

13:41

you know, the way they ended

13:43

up season one, maybe love was

13:46

in the air, what can we

13:48

expect to see from them? Probably

13:50

about a very stoic kind of

13:52

love. Very weird. Very weird. But

13:54

sometimes you need a bit of

13:56

weird. Listen. Whatever gets you going,

13:58

you know what I mean? Yep.

14:00

Can Deidra find love with Cyril?

14:03

I don't know if Deidra can

14:05

find love with anyone. Can she?

14:07

I don't know. She, I don't

14:09

know. Yemra? Maybe. You know, who

14:11

knows? I'm old for her, no?

14:13

I don't know. Emperor, Palps, he's

14:15

pretty handy, isn't. Look because I

14:17

know they've got Disney have got

14:20

their own OSB and they're making

14:22

sure that we are super serious

14:24

questions Yeah, no, yeah, no, no,

14:26

I'm only joking. I don't know

14:28

who knows but sit seriously Yes,

14:30

and or When you first got

14:32

the call about this show, what

14:34

did you think of it? Where

14:37

you immediately yeah, like yeah, I

14:39

want to do that No, I

14:41

had no idea. I met Tony.

14:43

And if I'm honest to my

14:45

shame, I didn't know Tony. I

14:47

don't come from a Star Wars

14:49

background. I don't come from a

14:51

film or TV background. So I

14:53

was like, this guy is really

14:56

great. He seems really interesting. But

14:58

I didn't know what it was.

15:00

And then he sent me the

15:02

first three scripts. And I read

15:04

them. And I was like, oh

15:06

my god, he's one of the

15:08

greatest films ever made. So I

15:10

knew it was good people behind

15:13

it and then I read those

15:15

first three scripts and then he

15:17

told me about the character And

15:19

I was like oh my god.

15:21

I'm so in but I had

15:23

to like it wasn't like it

15:25

was just handed I had to

15:27

Disney had to approve and all

15:30

of that stuff. You know the

15:32

way he walked by just as

15:34

we were talking about he knows

15:36

when he's being talked about well

15:38

with deadering season two She goes

15:40

places. How satisfied were you then

15:42

with the culmination of her story?

15:44

Thought it was brilliant. I think

15:47

it's a brilliant ending. It's brilliant,

15:49

right? It's a brilliant ending to

15:51

her. It's really satisfying. Very surprising,

15:53

I thought, as well. Yeah, I

15:55

was, very surprised. I was, yeah.

15:57

was too but then it made

15:59

absolute sense as well well deserved

16:01

as well if I could be

16:04

so bold a treat for the

16:06

audience yeah oh yeah yeah yeah

16:08

yeah so listen we've got like

16:10

seconds left of you how proud

16:12

of your family how proud of

16:14

your family have been in Star

16:16

Wars yeah they are really I

16:18

mean as long as I can

16:21

you know maybe bring my nephews

16:23

to yeah I have an Irish

16:25

family we're not big on My

16:27

name's Irish. You know what I

16:29

mean? But there's not a lot

16:31

of, we're so proud. It's more

16:33

like you're doing that now. That's

16:35

great, well done. Get on with

16:37

that. Thank you for everything in

16:40

style. So we said thank you

16:42

earlier, thank you again. It means

16:44

a lot, genuinely. No, you were

16:46

brilliant. The nerds shall inherit the

16:48

earth and you have. Oh yeah.

16:50

This is what you called yourselves,

16:52

right? Yeah, thank God, I'm not

16:54

insulting. Basically. No, no, no, no,

16:57

no, no, no, no, no, no,

16:59

no, no, no, no, no, it's,

17:01

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

17:03

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

17:05

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

17:07

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

17:09

it's, it's, it's I'll call it

17:11

rather than Mendo. I'll call you

17:14

Mr Mendelssohn this time. Oh, it's

17:16

great. Okay, I gotta go. I'll

17:18

come off. See you later. Thank

17:20

you. Thank you. That Ozzy's Swagger,

17:22

isn't it? You know. Are you

17:24

more punting this time? Yeah. I

17:26

aspire to be this guy. Do

17:28

you see she's got the flip

17:31

flip thing now with a different

17:33

face on? I know. Apparently there

17:35

was one of you. Yeah. What

17:37

do you mean where's mine? You

17:39

think I'd carry it with me?

17:41

You know who you're talking to?

17:43

Direct of the ISB. How aware

17:45

were you of Andor's season one?

17:48

Because obviously you weren't in it.

17:50

So had you seen it? Did

17:52

you? No, I hadn't. I held

17:54

off, but I knew about it

17:56

because Tony and whatnot. And I

17:58

was very, very curious to see

18:00

it. And then of course, you

18:02

know. the big event. It finally,

18:05

it happened to me, you know,

18:07

right in front of my face,

18:09

you know. In 2016, I watched

18:11

you in London a few miles

18:13

away at the Excel Center, walk

18:15

into the Rogue One panel with

18:17

as much swagger, you know what

18:19

I'm talking about. Yeah, how much

18:21

of that swagger are you bringing

18:24

in season two? It's just like,

18:26

yeah, it's not, yeah, it's more

18:28

like, um... It's not

18:30

quite that much swagger because that

18:32

was that was quite a move

18:35

that I loved it. You know,

18:37

no, no Australian of the year

18:39

I think Deafo 2016 of the

18:41

year perhaps maybe but I think

18:43

I think he's um I think

18:45

he's um He's in good form

18:48

in this show. Like he's really

18:50

in, I think he's probably in

18:52

the best spot that we've seen

18:54

in it. He's very menacing in

18:56

season two. He's not putting any

18:58

punches. That must have also been

19:01

quite a fun role to play.

19:03

In Rogue One, Krenic is fighting

19:05

against, you know, swimming against the

19:07

tide. Here though, he has more

19:09

power to flex his muscles. How

19:11

fun was that? Oh, it was

19:14

a ball. I mean, it was

19:16

a ball. This you know

19:18

the storyline the way the watching how

19:20

they do it like how the empire

19:23

and how those machinations you guys have

19:25

seen it right you guys have the

19:27

whole the whole okay so you know

19:29

what I'm talking about when when you

19:32

see how they do it right like

19:34

it's one thing to kind of go

19:36

oh they do this they do that

19:38

but when you can watch like this

19:41

and then they do that that's that's

19:43

awesome top writing Yeah, it's a phenomenal

19:45

writer. And just be aware you have

19:47

this behind you, right? So, so we,

19:50

no, just for spoiling stuff, because I

19:52

know you're, you're in barga. Yeah, yeah,

19:54

yeah. Yeah, for the pro. No, no,

19:56

no, serious stuff, you know. No, yeah,

19:59

for sure. I take the, you know,

20:01

it's the audience. It's the audience, it's

20:03

the audience, it's the audience, it's always

20:05

the audience. I would definitely say, the

20:08

audience wants to go in blind and

20:10

enjoy every second of this. Yeah, no,

20:12

absolutely. I think that very strongly too.

20:14

We said this when we spoke to

20:17

you earlier. Yeah. Sincerely, once again, thank

20:19

you. You are a phenomenal edition of

20:21

Star Wars. And I mean that. And

20:23

listen, thank you. I, you know, I,

20:26

I... I have not been sure how

20:28

frantic and all that business stacks up.

20:30

So thank you. This means a lot.

20:32

Some of the feedbacks are nice. I

20:35

do really love it. And I do

20:37

really appreciate it. Soak it all up.

20:39

We love it. Thank you, ma'am. Thank

20:42

you. Appreciate it. Thank you. The

20:57

best podcast you've ever heard.

20:59

Star with Sessions on the

21:01

mic is quite absurd. Got

21:03

a patriot now, we're lots

21:06

of tears. From two dollars

21:08

a month, it's all it

21:10

is. Best podcast. Hello? Best

21:12

podcast. Best podcast. Best podcast.

21:14

Reiner. Best podcast. We love

21:16

a bit of Mendo down

21:19

and dear. Watch out. and

21:21

look we loved it and

21:23

he definitely loves it up

21:25

next we've got the one

21:27

and only Genevieve O'Reilly who

21:30

of course plays mon moth

21:32

the moth the moth this

21:34

one absolutely floored us again.

21:36

Can't wait if you'd hear

21:38

it. Hello again, how are

21:40

you? Madam Luke. Yes, thank

21:43

you. Madam Luke, yes. Yeah,

21:45

you remembered. Oh, hang on,

21:47

hang on, there we go.

21:49

We've got a microphone for

21:51

you. Yeah. That's amazing, you

21:53

remembered our names, that's insane.

21:56

Love that, love that. Well,

21:58

we saw you in Revenge

22:00

of the Siff and the

22:02

real ones know, the real

22:04

fans know, in a deleted

22:06

scene, your mom-off-ma. Yeah, you

22:09

didn't really see me, it

22:11

was deleted. Yeah, but the

22:13

real fans did. Yes, okay,

22:15

okay. Real fans did. Yeah.

22:17

I remember it. I remember

22:19

sitting there with Jimmy Smiths

22:22

and Natalie Portman and George

22:24

Lucas. In Australia? In Sydney.

22:26

I was living in Australia

22:28

at the time and working

22:30

there obviously and I really

22:32

swear the only reason I

22:35

got the job is Mon

22:37

Matmas because I was the

22:39

palest person in Sydney. It

22:41

works. It works. Thanks. It

22:43

checked out. But you were

22:45

also in a soaker. recently

22:48

and or season one and

22:50

two obviously phenomenal. Is this

22:52

the last appearance of Mom

22:54

Offmer? Well I think I

22:56

have learned over many years

22:59

to say I don't know

23:01

because I had no idea

23:03

back in 2005 that I

23:05

would be here playing this

23:07

woman today. Of course. And

23:09

I just feel so lucky

23:12

that I... have got

23:14

to play her in with Tony's writing

23:16

with the with the rich amount of

23:18

story that there is and that I

23:20

feel like I know her. I love

23:22

you as Mom Offmer as well. Genuinely

23:25

it's super and I feel we're gonna

23:27

see you again maybe next year in

23:29

a Mandalorian film who knows? Go on

23:31

mate. I hope so and I'm being

23:33

told to wrap it so in a

23:36

few words what does Mon mean to

23:38

you? Man

23:41

is such an important figure

23:43

within the world and I

23:45

think for me, why she's

23:47

so special to me is

23:49

because she doesn't pick up

23:51

a weapon, she doesn't pick

23:53

up a lightsaber, she uses

23:55

her voice and in this

23:57

season we get to see

24:00

her have to use her

24:02

voice and for her voice

24:04

to be able to have

24:06

an impact. That's super special.

24:08

That's it. And what an

24:10

impact she has. Thank you

24:12

so much for your contribution

24:14

and for talking to us

24:16

and for being here. Thank

24:18

you. Thank you. I love

24:20

it. Thank you. Luke and

24:22

much. Oh thank you. Unbelievable.

24:24

Thank you. Stellen, congratulations on

24:26

Andor, season two. Now that

24:28

is all done. You've done

24:30

an awful lot in your

24:33

career, a lot of good

24:35

stuff. Now how does working

24:37

on Andor and Star Wars,

24:39

how does that stack up

24:41

to what you've done? And

24:43

you know, now that's ending,

24:45

how you're feeling? It's a

24:47

very special project and we

24:49

were very fortunate. I mean,

24:51

of course it's, it is

24:53

Tony Gilroy's writing and it's

24:55

done together with Diego Luna

24:57

in close cooperation and they've

24:59

taken the Star Wars franchise

25:01

much further and done something

25:03

pretty painful but truthful. Yes,

25:05

very stock, very stock, yep.

25:08

Because it has a different

25:10

flavor. Anything that came before

25:12

it. What was that cool

25:14

like when they initially said,

25:16

we're making a show and

25:18

or, it's grittyy, it's Star

25:20

Wars, did you have to

25:22

be sold on it or

25:24

was it something that you

25:26

thought I want to be

25:28

involved in that from the

25:30

get-go? I had to read

25:32

the script of course. And

25:34

I had to talk to...

25:36

to Tony about it because

25:38

I didn't want to sign

25:41

up for seven years or

25:43

something. So I said, so

25:45

I have one or two

25:47

years, I said, you have

25:49

to promise to kill me

25:51

before, after two years or

25:53

otherwise I won't do it.

25:55

And it's... I promise to

25:57

kill me after. But you

25:59

must be so proud of

26:01

the role. I am. It's

26:03

amazing. I have your action

26:05

figure. I'm not joking. I'm

26:07

not joking. I'm trying to

26:09

be professional. I have your

26:11

action figure. I'm not joking.

26:14

It's one of the best

26:16

roles I've had. Well, I'll

26:18

say, how satisfied are you

26:20

with the ending that Luther

26:22

had? I'm very satisfied. It

26:24

makes sense. Yeah, yeah. And

26:26

it's also, it's a beautiful,

26:28

the tenth episode, it's beautiful,

26:30

it's in its, it's describing

26:32

the background of the girl,

26:34

Claire, played by Elizabeth Doolow,

26:36

who's wonderful. Fantastic, yeah. And

26:38

obviously the reaction to you

26:40

in season one was outstanding.

26:42

Again, that as an actor,

26:44

that must feel gratifying and

26:47

satisfying to have so many

26:49

people say how good you

26:51

were in the role. what

26:53

you feel really is. Ooh!

26:55

We lastly just want to

26:57

say thank you. Thank you

26:59

very much. You are brilliant.

27:01

This is a phenomenal show.

27:03

Thank you. Thank you so

27:05

much. A man I both

27:07

said after the event in

27:09

London just how lovely a

27:11

nice Stalin was and you

27:13

know you you assume that

27:15

everyone's going to be nice

27:17

and professional everyone was but

27:20

it was especially nice to

27:22

meet Stellen Scarzgaard such a

27:24

household name but but genuinely

27:26

Such a lovely gentleman. That

27:28

was an absolute treat. Next,

27:30

we got a bit of

27:32

a funny piece of audio

27:34

because our recorder wasn't working

27:36

properly during this. So we

27:38

have kind of a partial,

27:40

but still very fun. I

27:42

can't believe I got away

27:44

with it. Interview with Faye

27:46

Marseille, who of course plays

27:48

Vell, part of the rebellion

27:50

in And or season one.

27:53

season two. Where are you

27:55

from? Are we recording by

27:57

the way because this is

27:59

prime content? I was born

28:01

in Middlesbrough but I grew

28:03

up just outside North Yorkshire.

28:05

I've actually written this down

28:07

okay I wrote down I

28:09

wrote down more as a

28:11

joke okay but now because

28:13

he was making fun of

28:15

me earlier right I've actually

28:17

written down Greg's or Toby

28:19

Carvering. Oh that's tricky Toby

28:21

Carvering because I love gravy.

28:23

We didn't ask the egg.

28:26

Just remember the gravy. That's

28:28

all I can say. We've

28:30

had a bit of fun.

28:32

Just quickly, Jason Momoa's there.

28:34

Is this a tip-off that

28:36

he is in and or

28:38

season two? No. Wink twice.

28:40

There we go. No, no,

28:42

he's nice. That is not.

28:44

I wish he was. Yeah,

28:46

wouldn't that be good. You've

28:48

got two words? Sum up

28:50

Vell's journey in season two,

28:52

in two words. Heartbreaking and

28:54

important. Oh, okay.

28:56

You've seen it though, haven't you?

28:59

Solid. Thank you so much. Thanks,

29:01

guys. You're fantastic, genuinely. Thank you

29:03

so much. We do get asked

29:05

every now and then by other

29:08

people, fans, friends. How do you

29:10

get invites to these sort of

29:12

things, these events? Well, you do

29:14

top. class top crumpet style expert

29:17

journalism like asking actors or if

29:19

they prefer Greg's or Toby Carverie.

29:21

Greg's we speak about it enough

29:23

obviously pastry chain here in the

29:26

UK and Toby Carverie a mediocre

29:28

roast dinner Sunday roast dinner style

29:30

restaurant here in the UK. It

29:32

don't get better than that does

29:35

it? Yeah I don't know why

29:37

I did that. Do you ever

29:39

do stuff? Why did I ask

29:41

that? But it's too late now.

29:44

I can't believe. Most, like I

29:46

said, that clip was edited because

29:48

we had technical issues. So there's

29:50

only some of what we asked.

29:53

in that clip. But the bit

29:55

we do have is me asking

29:57

effectively someone about sausage rolls. I

29:59

suppose it's fitting really and on

30:02

that topic, well not really, but

30:04

kind of Adria Arjona is our

30:06

last guest on this podcast, the

30:08

last person we were able to

30:11

interview at this London event. She

30:13

was outrageously good. outrageously good a

30:15

real real superstar and sweetheart so

30:17

once again enjoy this our last

30:20

bit of audio from this week

30:22

this is crazy as we have

30:24

helped congratulations on season two of

30:26

Andor given where everything big when

30:28

he's drinking wine that's a madoon

30:31

it's a it's a it's a

30:33

it's a classy event you know

30:35

we're in London Bix went through

30:37

quite a lot in season one,

30:40

it's fair to say, where do

30:42

we see her in season two

30:44

and what can fans expect from

30:46

your character? Oh, it's sort of

30:49

the repuzzling of who she is

30:51

as a character. It's been a

30:53

year since we last see her

30:55

from the second that we start

30:58

season two. But a year isn't

31:00

enough to sort of get through

31:02

everything that she went through. So

31:04

you'll see sort of Bix's journey,

31:07

it's about coming to herself again

31:09

and finding who she is. through

31:11

this experience that she's lived live

31:13

through and then it's about this

31:16

beautiful sort of relationship that is

31:18

formed between Cassian and and Vix

31:20

and Yeah, and and and finding

31:22

home within within each other and

31:25

helping each other out, you know,

31:27

they can't go back to pharynx

31:29

is the most pharynxian woman there

31:31

is and she can't go back

31:34

home. So she finds home in

31:36

and people in season one when

31:38

you've been tortured is immense. It's

31:40

absolute. outstanding. Okay? In season two,

31:43

do you match that? Do you

31:45

go better? What do you think?

31:47

I don't know. I'm the worst

31:49

person to ask that. I don't

31:52

remember what I did. Was it

31:54

as hard? It was harder. Really?

31:56

Yeah, I think season two has

31:58

challenged me more as an actor.

32:00

I think the circumstances get more

32:03

and more complex, the dynamics of

32:05

characters, the decisions, everything just takes

32:07

a notch. And when it's all

32:09

said and done and the final

32:12

creditor rolled, how emotional, you know,

32:14

was that last day on set?

32:16

And also, can we expect to

32:18

see Bix back again one day?

32:21

I mean, God, I hope so.

32:23

I love this character so much.

32:25

I have a little X for

32:27

Bix right here. I do. Oh,

32:30

that's so funny. I did it

32:32

on set. Don't tell Disney. It

32:34

was a stick and pulse. Your

32:36

secret safe of us. I mean,

32:39

they can't fire me now. But

32:41

yeah, it was incredibly emotional. You

32:43

know, not being able to say

32:45

Tony's words, not being able to

32:48

put on my costume, not walking

32:50

onto a Star Wars set. I

32:52

never took it for granted, not

32:54

a single day went by that

32:57

I didn't, that I wasn't sort

32:59

of taken aback that I am

33:01

a Latin American actress in Star

33:03

Wars. I didn't take that lightly.

33:06

Or just an actress in Star

33:08

Wars. So we just want to

33:10

say thank you. That's it. Thank

33:12

you. And or is phenomenal, we

33:15

adore you. Thank you so much.

33:17

Thank you all your hard work.

33:19

Thank you. I'm so excited for

33:21

people to watch season too. Thank

33:24

you. Thank you. Bye. One of

33:26

the best things about that chat

33:28

with Adria was that my brother

33:30

was actually recording. Okay, now my

33:32

brother wasn't wasn't down to be

33:35

part of the media team. It's

33:37

just Matt and I and we're

33:39

doing an audio potty, right? but

33:41

we got guest tickets to this

33:44

event and I owe a lot

33:46

to my brother so anyway he

33:48

came along and he came up

33:50

to check on us while we

33:53

were doing the sort of media

33:55

peer okay So the first anecdote

33:57

is at the start of that

33:59

interview you hear Adriago, oh I

34:02

love that he's holding a cut

34:04

of wine while recording. And so

34:06

my brother, I just gave him

34:08

my phone when he came up

34:11

to check on us. And so

34:13

we've only got videos for I

34:15

think three or four of the

34:17

chats we had, but one of

34:20

them is Adrias. But yeah, my

34:22

brother, my poor brother, I just

34:24

shoved my phone in this hand

34:26

and I might go and record

34:29

a few of the chats we're

34:31

about to have. And he was,

34:33

he just had his white wine

34:35

in his hand and she pointed

34:38

it out. I mean, it doesn't

34:40

get better than that, does it?

34:42

Does it? Nah, I don't. And

34:44

then before that, my brother was

34:47

actually coming up the stairs. We

34:49

wrote this, the pen was on

34:51

top of this kind of balcony

34:53

overlooking this massive concrete bunker room

34:56

like I described at the beginning

34:58

of the epi, right? It was

35:00

insane. But anyway, my brother's walking

35:02

up and I'm talking to me

35:04

like, oh you're right, yeah, come

35:07

on. And I think it's when

35:09

I'm like, oh, grab my phone,

35:11

James, I'm recording some stuff. Jason

35:13

Momoa, who is of course courting

35:16

Adria or Jonah. and was present,

35:18

which we couldn't believe anyway, was

35:20

walking up. My brother comes to

35:22

walk towards me and he walks

35:25

in front of Jason Momoa and

35:27

my brother goes, oh, oh sorry.

35:29

And I think Jason Momoa is

35:31

like, oh no worries bro, something

35:34

like that. Okay, this absolute tank

35:36

of a real life Minecraft man.

35:38

Minecraft film, big up, big up,

35:40

it just, yeah, my brother just

35:43

walked in front of him. and

35:45

it's really silly little anecdote but

35:47

I love it especially because I

35:49

was like last week a week

35:52

ago I was watching this guy

35:54

in the Minecraft film well aware

35:56

of my pronunciation by the way

35:58

watch Motherland if you're not one

36:01

of the best BBC shows ever

36:03

right I'm going on now the

36:05

absolute privilege to do this we

36:07

don't take it for granted the

36:10

the whole reason and we're giving

36:12

opportunities like this to interview people

36:14

it's because of you our listeners

36:16

first and foremost right we have

36:19

a we social media following and

36:21

that's great but the listenership the

36:23

engagement from things like Spotify Apple

36:25

podcasts make yeah it gives us

36:27

this platform an opportunity to do

36:30

this we are well aware that

36:32

without you we wouldn't we wouldn't

36:34

do this yeah And that's it.

36:36

Matt and I both want to

36:39

say thank you first and foremost.

36:41

We are incredibly, incredibly grateful. And

36:43

we still can't believe we've been

36:45

able to do this to be

36:48

honest. That's it, that's a wrap.

36:50

We're releasing this episode a bit

36:52

slightly earlier than usual. I think

36:54

it's going to drop on the

36:57

13th, Sunday the 13th of April,

36:59

I think, in the evening British

37:01

time. So you'll be able to

37:03

listen to this on your Monday

37:06

commutes, but of course this coming

37:08

weekend, what other days, 18th, 19th

37:10

and 20th, it is of course

37:12

Star Wars celebration celebration Japan, our

37:15

boy Matt Hudson, Matt Hudson. He's

37:17

going to be in transit. He

37:19

is traveling to Tokyo. He is

37:21

traveling to celebration. He's going to

37:24

be reporting on the ground for

37:26

us. Our boy Dave Dunn is

37:28

there. Emma's there. It's going to

37:30

be amazing. A load of you

37:33

guys are going to be there.

37:35

The sick heads. You're going to

37:37

have a little meet-up. I'm sure.

37:39

Say hello. Say hello. Give him

37:42

a cuddle. And just make magic

37:44

happen. Yeah. It's going to be

37:46

beautiful. But I'm going to be

37:48

probably. probably reporting on the whole

37:51

event, Friday, Saturday and maybe Sunday,

37:53

maybe Sunday, but definitely the Friday

37:55

and Saturday. So expect sort of

37:57

celebration recaps on those days and

37:59

those will be the episodes for

38:02

that week. So the schedules changed

38:04

a little bit. Guys, this episode

38:06

has been bizarre. There's no other

38:08

more fit and word for it.

38:11

Listening back to these interviews is

38:13

just incredible. I can't believe it.

38:15

If only little Luke knew, and

38:17

if only Luke from a year

38:20

ago, new, let alone five years

38:22

ago, six, ten years ago, whatever

38:24

new, we're nearly at the end

38:26

of this special episode, but we've

38:29

got... Two other things we want

38:31

to cover. First is actually an

38:33

LBC interview that we were invited

38:35

to go on live from London.

38:38

The morning of this crazy day.

38:40

So when I say it was

38:42

a busy day, it really really

38:44

was a busy, busy day. And

38:47

then lastly, we've got a sneak

38:49

peek. Listen. an exclusive from the

38:51

Blues Harvest Band with their new

38:53

track One Way Out. But that's

38:56

all to come in a moment.

38:58

But first, let's listen to us

39:00

yap on about some special Star

39:02

Wars UK news. Okay, one for

39:05

the Star Wars fans now. Because

39:08

the original 1977 movie, the original

39:10

version, is going to be shown

39:12

on the big screen this summer

39:15

in London as part of a

39:17

BFI festival. Now this is a

39:19

big deal to many. To explain

39:22

why we're going to speak to

39:24

two huge Star Wars fans, Matt

39:26

Hudson and Luke Bly. They are

39:29

co-hosts of the Star Wars sessions

39:31

podcast joining us live on LBC

39:33

News. And guys, why is the

39:36

1977 version so rare? A great

39:38

question. I mean it hasn't been

39:40

seen in its original format in

39:43

decades or literally generations even when

39:45

it was in cinemas back in

39:47

77. George Lucas was tinkering with

39:50

his own creation back then so

39:52

the opportunity to see this raw

39:54

unedited original version is something that

39:57

does not come around at all.

39:59

Not even once in a blue

40:01

moon it just doesn't. happen. It's

40:04

very exciting because it got updated

40:06

in the 90s didn't it? Yeah

40:08

the 90s version is a little

40:11

bit debated among fans. A lot

40:13

of people aren't really keen on

40:16

some of the changes that George

40:18

Lucas made, but really he was

40:20

practicing new uses of things like

40:23

CGI, VFX, ahead of what would

40:25

later become a prequel trilogy. But

40:27

that is George's preferred version. So

40:30

for many people, our generation included

40:32

a lot of us, and maybe

40:34

haven't even seen the original cut.

40:37

Yeah, we've only seen these edited

40:39

versions, so it's a big deal.

40:41

You guys can go supernish on

40:44

me if you want. There's one

40:46

particular scene, isn't there, that is

40:48

highly debated featuring Han Solo? Oh

40:51

yes. Well, listen, Han Shop First,

40:53

and I'm not having anyone else

40:55

tell me differently, but yeah, in

40:58

the original you had Han Solo

41:00

shooting Greido first in the Cantina,

41:02

and then George, as Luke mentioned

41:05

in the 90 special editions, it's

41:07

time to tweak it somewhat, which

41:09

was now... led to one of

41:12

the biggest controversies and found them

41:14

of who shot Burston's. I mean

41:16

George himself is flip-flopped over the

41:19

years but Hans shot Burst if

41:21

you ask me but it is

41:23

just indicative of George changing his

41:26

own creation and probably striving for

41:28

a perfection you know he'll never

41:30

get to. So this 1977 version

41:33

it doesn't have any of the

41:35

CGI obviously Is this going to

41:37

be a big event for fans

41:40

like yourself this summer? Yeah, it's

41:42

a massive deal. I wouldn't be

41:44

surprised if people are going to

41:47

fly in from abroad to come

41:49

and see this. There's zero hyperbole

41:51

there. It's going to sell out.

41:54

I think BFI members are the

41:56

first come first serve. So if

41:58

you want to go, you need

42:01

to be a member of the

42:03

British Film Institute, which you can

42:06

sign up for on their website.

42:08

So this feels really like something

42:10

that never happens. It's almost like

42:13

law and legend, isn't it? That's

42:15

exactly how I mean... That's it.

42:17

George didn't even want to put

42:20

this original version in the National

42:22

Film Registry when they said, can

42:24

we have it to preserve it?

42:27

He was like, no, no, you

42:29

can have the special edition. So,

42:31

you know, there was licensing issues

42:34

for years and there still is.

42:36

So the fact that we're able

42:38

to see it is pretty crazy.

42:41

I assume Lucas film has given

42:43

permission for this version to be

42:45

shown. Yeah, George is a patron

42:48

of the BFI, so he has

42:50

actually licensed his copy too, therefore

42:52

they can show it. I just

42:55

wonder whether he's sitting there going,

42:57

oh okay, come on, fine, I'll

42:59

show it to them, finally they

43:02

can have it. But on a

43:04

very limited basis. Maybe. Yeah, maybe.

43:06

Oh, I won't write you though.

43:09

I am surprised. I was not

43:11

expecting this because in the US,

43:13

again, this is very rare. Very

43:16

rare. So for the hardcore Star

43:18

Wars fans, this is going to

43:20

be a really big deal. We're

43:23

so excited. We can't wait. Luke

43:25

Matt, Matt, thank you so much

43:27

for joining us today on LBC

43:30

News. We appreciate your time. Thanks.

43:32

Hey, bye. Bye. That is Matt

43:34

Hudson, Luke Bly, co-host of the

43:37

Star Wars Sessions podcast. The time

43:39

is 1117. Big thanks again to

43:41

Steve Holden from LBC Radio for

43:44

having us on last week. Again,

43:46

wonderful experience and how cool is

43:48

to re-release news. Like seriously, the

43:51

first time this is being shown

43:53

again in the UK. Well, is

43:55

it the first time? We're fully,

43:58

we're fully, have the intention of

44:00

being there, but I know tickets

44:03

are going to go like hot

44:05

cakes, lads. So if you're not

44:07

a BFI member, seriously, consider signing

44:10

up, just Google, BFI, Star Wars.

44:12

London and the results will come

44:14

up. We're absolutely buzzing. It's very

44:17

very special and again, like you

44:19

know, our first time on LBC,

44:21

unbelievable. To end the show, we've

44:24

been sent a sneak peek of

44:26

Blues Harvest. If you're not aware

44:28

of Blues Harvest, they're an amazing

44:31

band from the North of England.

44:33

They do amazing Star Wars covers

44:35

and little projects that have played,

44:38

where did they play, the Mandalorian

44:40

Piccadilly Circus event years ago and

44:42

there's a cool video of them

44:45

like playing in this like armora

44:47

section and John Fabrose there. Oh,

44:49

and Pedro Piscat is very, very,

44:52

very cool. Anyway, I digress. This

44:54

is a sneak peek of one

44:56

of their original... So this ain't

44:59

a cover lads, this ain't a

45:01

cover, but in celebration of And

45:03

or season two, this is One

45:06

Way Out by Blues Harvest. It

45:08

will be available on the 16th

45:10

of April Wednesday. This coming Wednesday,

45:13

here's a sneak peek. And

45:40

that was one way out by

45:42

blues harvest. Or at least a

45:45

sneak peek at it, 30-ish seconds

45:47

of it. May, I feel like

45:49

a proper radio one, radio two,

45:51

BBC radio presenter. This is like

45:53

a dream come true. Can't believe

45:55

it. Now, honestly, their top lads

45:58

give them and listen. And that

46:00

is pretty much the end. of

46:02

the episode guys again we want

46:04

to emphasize that without you without

46:06

the listeners, regular engagement we wouldn't

46:09

be able to interview any of

46:11

these people we wouldn't have episodes

46:13

like this would still be doing

46:15

episodes but just it's just we

46:17

wouldn't be afforded these opportunities so

46:19

it's all because of you thank

46:22

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46:24

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46:26

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46:28

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46:35

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46:37

Luna and talking about a dirty

46:39

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46:41

I say or asking Vell from

46:44

Andor if she prefers Greg's or

46:46

Toby Carverie? Do you know what

46:48

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46:50

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46:52

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47:14

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47:18

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47:21

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48:39

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