0:01

Rollins again. Ordinary

0:04

life got you

0:07

down? Don't you ever

0:09

want to do anything

0:12

exciting? Like what?

0:14

What if adventure was

0:17

right at your

0:19

fingertips? Sager.

0:25

Sit back, relax and

0:27

experience. A new Star

0:29

Wars adventure, skeleton crew.

0:32

To recap. Recap. Recap. There's

0:34

a guy on our team

0:36

dressed like a pirate. Steve?

0:39

Steve, the pirate skirmy! Good

0:41

morning afternoon or evening. Where

0:43

if you are in the

0:46

galaxy and welcome to Star

0:48

Wars Sessions skeleton crew. Recap.

0:51

My name is Matt Hudson, aka Jabber

0:53

the HUD and joining me here

0:55

as ever in the cockpit of

0:57

the onyxinder. He is the great

0:59

Star Wars man, fan and buddy

1:01

out there. It's Master Bly, Walker,

1:03

Luke Bly. Are you doing sir?

1:05

Oyoy Saviloy. It's my favourite time

1:07

a week again, mate. Skelet and

1:09

crew, chit-chat time. Yeah? Oh, well

1:11

you're drinking, little cheeky cup of

1:13

tea. It's a peach tea. Oh,

1:15

I'm branching out. I do like

1:17

a fruity tea. In my head,

1:19

it's more water than drinking like

1:21

actual tea with milk. So

1:23

it's hydrating me a bit

1:26

better. So, and it tastes good.

1:28

Well, I just had a

1:30

peppermint tea. Yeah, and this

1:32

episode of Skeleton Crew was

1:34

a bit pepperminty. Wouldn't it?

1:36

Yeah? Oh, you know, yeah,

1:39

a penultimate episode mate, we're

1:41

gonna be in so much

1:43

trouble. Yeah. What about the

1:45

episode though, mate? Oh, yes,

1:48

here we go, mate. Craig's

1:50

out, come on, come on,

1:52

come on, I wouldn't mind,

1:54

have one the other day,

1:56

but let's get the episode

1:58

reviewed, mate, for those... Those who

2:00

are new to the recaps, welcome,

2:02

however. Gotta have to tell you,

2:04

if you haven't seen the episode,

2:06

hold your father's, because we are

2:08

going to be diving headfirst into

2:11

full spoiler territory. We're going to

2:13

be discussing the episode entirety, including

2:15

all the bits you don't want

2:17

to be spoiled for you ahead

2:19

of next week's finale. So final

2:21

time, spoiler warning. Now, that said,

2:23

let's do it. Like Lukie Boy

2:25

said, episode 7, we're going to

2:27

be in so much trouble. 36

2:29

minutes long with credits released on

2:32

the 7th of January 2025, stateside,

2:34

8th of January 2025 here in

2:36

the UK. It's directed by Lee

2:38

Isaac Chung, who's making his return

2:40

to the Galaxy, and it was

2:42

written by our boys Chris Ford

2:44

and John Watts. So the big

2:46

boys are back to see us

2:48

through. They bookended this season, mate.

2:50

Here we are we've got one

2:53

more to go but let's not

2:55

worry about that let's talk about

2:57

this week's episode mate what did

2:59

you think of episode 7 it

3:01

was another great fun adventure episode

3:03

mate you know was it quite

3:05

as good from a character perspective

3:07

as last week. Well, no, but

3:09

I think that was a one-off

3:11

and that was a needed episode.

3:14

But this is more of a

3:16

return to form when it comes

3:18

to action. Like I said, adventure.

3:20

Jod nana-na-na-wood, you nah-nasty piece of

3:22

work, mate! Nah-na-na-na-na-a-wood! We play that

3:24

next week, actually. He's a stone-cold.

3:26

killer! He's a naughty boy! I

3:28

was like Brutus, Brutus has gone

3:30

mate! He had no hope, did

3:32

he? Hang it, hang in there,

3:35

just get bonks in their head.

3:37

I know, the image of this

3:39

wolfman, it's one of those moments

3:41

when you're watching Star Wars and

3:43

you're like, what am I watching?

3:45

There's a wolfman! hanging from a

3:47

giant claw outside of a star

3:49

ship and there's a pirate guy

3:51

talking to a bunch of aliens.

3:53

Again, aliens and creatures turns around,

3:56

bang, pop to the face, didn't

3:58

expect that, didn't expect that. I

4:00

know that my kid's gonna watch

4:02

that bit and she's gonna be

4:04

like, oh, it's like the grabbing

4:06

machine at South End, isn't it?

4:08

Except that actually caught something. Yeah,

4:10

exactly. Yeah, see, we know the

4:12

game. We know the game. Oh

4:14

yeah. I wasn't really expecting, I

4:17

mean we've mentioned him, I just

4:19

will dive into it, I wasn't

4:21

actually expecting this kind of character

4:23

arc from Jod. Like he is

4:25

right now, he is the villain,

4:27

he's not looking great is he?

4:29

And what was funny I think

4:31

leading up to this episode mate,

4:33

I swear Jude Law says that

4:35

this was his favorite episode to

4:38

make and we learn a lot

4:40

about his character in this episode

4:42

right and for whatever reason I

4:44

do I do recall him saying

4:46

oh yeah the seventh episode a

4:48

skeleton crew you get to see

4:50

like a lot of background and

4:52

stuff and that was my favorite

4:54

like making that episode in the

4:56

show so maybe he is just

4:59

a baddy I mean is it

5:01

too late for because we were

5:03

thinking oh it's gonna be a

5:05

redemption he's gonna feel bad find

5:07

the treasure right now I'm thinking

5:09

no this guys I don't know.

5:11

I don't know. I mean a

5:13

lot of people. Vader was redeemable.

5:15

Do you know what I mean?

5:17

Yeah, were you expecting that in

5:20

this episode? Were you expecting it

5:22

to unfold how it did? No,

5:24

quite frankly. I liked this episode

5:26

a lot. I thought it was

5:28

really good fun. Like just for

5:30

the same points you did mate.

5:32

Good action, good humour. It progressed

5:34

the story. I say logically. I

5:36

mean logically based on what we

5:38

know who knows how they're going

5:41

to win this thing but I

5:43

wasn't expecting Jod to just sort

5:45

of act the way that he

5:47

did to your point I mean

5:49

yes Fader was redeemed was redeemed

5:51

but in terms of this story

5:53

they're going to have to go

5:55

along to have him fully redeem

5:57

himself. I mean, he can still

5:59

be a little bit ambiguous by

6:02

the end of it. He can

6:04

still save the kids, but reluctantly

6:06

maybe to save the money at

6:08

the same time or something. But

6:10

I mean, I don't really see

6:12

an episode now where he turned

6:14

around and it's all sunshine and

6:16

rainbows at the end of it

6:18

for him. Whereas I'm now a

6:20

good guy. I've seen the era

6:23

of my ways. Ebenezer screwed style.

6:25

I don't see that happening. I

6:27

think I hope. we stick to

6:29

that kind of morally ambiguous line.

6:31

I mean look at someone like

6:33

Andal who's a good guy but

6:35

he does naughty things whereas Jod

6:37

is he is more of a

6:39

he has more nefarious intent but

6:41

I don't think he's a bad

6:43

guy. But I don't also but

6:45

what I mean is just like

6:47

Cassian never kind of really went

6:49

fully to the fully good he

6:52

was still a bit naughty even

6:54

at the very end. Jod I

6:56

don't want him to go fully

6:58

good either. I don't want him

7:00

to go fully good. hold some

7:02

of that spine, some of that

7:04

grit and snarl to him going

7:06

forward. Because if he does turn

7:08

around and be like, oh kids,

7:10

I was wrong, I shouldn't have

7:12

done that, I shouldn't have done

7:14

that to SM33, I shouldn't have

7:16

threatened to carve your parents up

7:18

like a turkey. In one episode,

7:20

that's going to be a little

7:22

bit too much to accept. But

7:24

I love the fact that you

7:26

said my man, they've portrayed him

7:28

as the bad guy. of this

7:30

series. And a minute, as of

7:32

seven episodes in, they ain't making

7:34

no bones about that. The pirates

7:36

are bad, and Jod is leading

7:38

these bad pirates, saying bad things

7:40

to the kids, doing bad things

7:42

to other people. I'm really enjoying

7:44

Jod's character at the minute. Will

7:46

we find out more about him?

7:48

I think so. I think we'll

7:50

find something about him next episode,

7:53

but I'm liking that he's been

7:55

a little bit ambiguous and now

7:57

he's embracing. what he probably feels

7:59

like he's deserved or he's earned,

8:01

this longer. And you know mate,

8:03

you know Jude Law. is having

8:05

a blast playing this lightsaber swashling

8:07

swashling swing in swash buckling naughty

8:09

pirate you know he's having it

8:11

oh he's absolute filth isn't he's

8:13

a naughty boy it is well

8:15

he killed him thirty three mate

8:17

what's going on there is he

8:19

dead is that it no one's

8:21

ever really gone surely well Brutus

8:23

is he's got a burning blast

8:25

a hole in his in his

8:27

wolf head. Good. To me, they'll

8:29

find a way to, of course

8:31

they're going to find a way

8:33

to bring him back, I mean,

8:35

but I was more worried that

8:37

he was going to go like

8:39

four green mile on that rat

8:41

and just step on it, but

8:43

he kind of kicked it out

8:45

of the way. Yeah. Oh, right.

8:47

Is that an indication that he,

8:49

oh, he's not that bad because

8:51

he didn't hurt the kids and

8:53

he didn't kill the rat? Is

8:56

that their way of saying, he's

8:58

still quite good? Yeah, probably. He

9:00

was frustrated man, he had a

9:02

headache. Yeah, I know what that's

9:04

like, dealing with kids with a

9:06

headache. Sit down, leave me alone.

9:08

And then he's like, what? The

9:10

firm goes to say that, what

9:12

are you want, mate? You're the

9:14

worst of them. Reminds me of

9:16

our boy, the radar, the Woodstone

9:18

radar, you want some. He will

9:20

give it, yeah. If you've never

9:22

listened to our show before, we

9:24

actually have a voice message from

9:26

him, saying that we're probably the

9:28

worst podcast or something like that.

9:30

If you've never listened to the

9:32

show before and you're not from

9:34

England, that's going to be a

9:36

fantastic revelation when you go by

9:38

the Woodstone radar. Go for it.

9:40

Good point. Do you know what?

9:42

I love in the morning, mate.

9:44

I love having my porridge, maybe

9:46

a cheeky banana, a morning cup

9:48

of coffee, and I love a

9:50

quaran pilot first thing in the

9:52

morning in the morning. Yeah, that's

9:54

what I love. Rest in peace.

9:56

How do you like? Acquiring in

9:59

the morning. Oh no say. Fride,

10:01

clearly. Globe, he ain't ever going

10:03

to be getting that ocean that

10:05

he was promised in the last

10:07

episode because, well, he's been fried.

10:09

worse than I fry an egg,

10:11

he's gone. Yeah. I love the

10:13

cockpit, the classic cockpit POV shot,

10:15

which we usually associate with the

10:17

rebel pilots or Thai fighter pilots,

10:19

but here it's a quaran pirate.

10:21

I really enjoyed that. I like

10:23

that little throwback. Talking of the

10:25

pirates and you know that point

10:27

of view, one of the scenes

10:29

I absolutely adored from Mandelorian season

10:31

three, which we all know is

10:33

the weaker of the three seasons

10:35

in my point of view, in

10:37

my opinion, sorry. Vain, yes, Vain,

10:39

he is obviously, and I'll go

10:41

on, have you got a soundboard.

10:43

I haven't got it on the

10:45

soundboard. Oh, pathetic. Well, there we

10:47

go. Go on mate, go on

10:49

cue it up, cue it up

10:51

real good. Vain, obviously the pirate

10:53

and Mando season three is in

10:55

skeleton crew, but as of right

10:57

now, is it just me or

11:00

does it feel like it didn't

11:02

really need to have that connection?

11:04

Like it could have just been

11:06

another character. I hate to be

11:08

nitpicky, but it's something that I

11:10

thought of today, the dude had

11:12

like a line in today's episode

11:14

and I'm like, what's with the...

11:16

Vain! Yeah. There we go. Thank

11:18

you. That's very good. We love

11:20

it. You love it. The kids

11:22

love it. So... I know what

11:24

you mean. I mean, the way

11:26

that it was spoken about pre-show

11:28

was that he's an antagonist, which

11:30

he is because he's obviously trying

11:32

to prevent our heroes from achieving

11:34

their goal, but he is very

11:36

much a tertiary background character. I

11:38

mean, I appreciate the connection just

11:40

for... the us hardcore sickheads who

11:42

can be like oh he was

11:44

in Mando season three therefore it

11:46

must take place in probably after

11:48

that I guess so from that

11:50

point of view fine I would

11:52

prefer I will say though I

11:54

would I would prefer but just

11:56

having vain, be our, conduit, be

11:58

our connective tissue, then any other

12:00

kind of major character turning up

12:03

by the end of it. Sure.

12:05

At this point, anyway, if you

12:07

ask me three for episodes to

12:09

go, maybe I'd say, well, you

12:11

know, I'd still like to see

12:13

Din show up, which I did,

12:15

shoot some fools, and but at

12:17

this point of the series, I'm

12:19

happy if it's just being vain,

12:21

mate. Okay. Let's while we're on

12:23

that. Is that gonna happen. Is

12:25

that gonna happen. in the finale

12:27

in the next episode will we

12:29

see any connective tissue and when

12:31

at what point during the episode

12:33

will we see cast on TV

12:35

turn up yes anisoca just hanging

12:37

on the back of the ship

12:39

we just see the bird thing

12:41

what's it called the condor what's

12:43

it called the show not the

12:45

shot in a condor yeah that's

12:47

it is that what it is

12:49

is it konkon for is that

12:51

what it konkor is that what

12:53

it konkon for is that what

12:55

it konkonkor is a Condor is

12:57

a bird. Someone out there let

12:59

us know it's a con for

13:01

a condor. It's one of those,

13:04

it's con summing and it ends

13:06

in our as well. He's new

13:08

googling aren't you? I'm still not

13:10

100% sure why that bird goes

13:12

anywhere. So it goes out. Well

13:14

it's the physical manifestation of the

13:16

daughter from Mortis. Oh right, really.

13:18

Dave, Dave, Dave gonna Dave isn't

13:20

he like. Oh. the good stuff

13:22

oh hang on hang on hang

13:24

on hang on come on make

13:26

come on I take I love

13:28

Dave Star Wars but I like

13:30

other stuff better at the minute

13:32

like this I know this is

13:34

like John and Dave's kind of

13:36

their show runner but I'm enjoying

13:38

this because it just feels fresher

13:40

more than I did say a

13:42

soccer which I agree not to

13:44

put that show down or even

13:46

Mando season three which is I'd

13:48

more of a pharaoh I'd argue

13:50

because it just feels fresh it

13:52

feels new to some people it

13:54

feels little bit too fresh and

13:56

a bit too noober so no

13:58

I do I do love a

14:00

bit of Dave we all know

14:02

that really but I agree by

14:04

the way I would I would

14:07

rank right now I think this

14:09

has actually been better for me

14:11

and more enjoyable enjoyable for me

14:13

than a soa Amanda season three

14:15

I think this will rank quite

14:17

well but it does really depend

14:19

on that finale next week and

14:21

how they lands that right Absolutely,

14:23

well to the point on that

14:25

then, do I think there will

14:27

be any connective tissue? Right now,

14:29

by the way it ended, I

14:31

want to say no, because I

14:33

do think that they are going

14:35

to set this up for the

14:37

kids, are going to save themselves.

14:39

However, in the back of my

14:41

mind, because I'm talking about on

14:43

the planet, we leave things off

14:45

with the kids reuniting with the

14:47

parents and Jod standing on that

14:49

platform with a light sabre ignited,

14:51

and they seem to be pretty

14:53

well. secluded down there. Nobody's getting

14:55

down there without a pass, let's

14:57

just say. But in my mind,

14:59

we've got the frigate, the pirate

15:01

frigate in orbit, in atmosphere. So

15:03

out of atmosphere, sorry, what are

15:05

they going to, are they just

15:07

going to hang around or are

15:10

they going to try and make

15:12

the way down? Are they going

15:14

to be discovered by a new

15:16

Republic ship? Are they going to

15:18

contact Kim, she knows kind of

15:20

where to go? That's what I

15:22

think might happen. I do think

15:24

we'll see new Republic fighters, probably

15:26

Carcentiva. I would be surprised if

15:28

we saw someone like Mando turn

15:30

up to help. I wouldn't be

15:32

against it if it was just

15:34

in atmosphere just to sort the

15:36

pirates out. At the minute, I

15:38

don't know mate. I'm like 51,

15:40

49% that we won't. But I

15:42

can't say for definite mate, I

15:44

can't. Could you imagine? Like... Yeah

15:46

I can and I'm excited if

15:48

that's happened after that. Because the

15:50

kids would sort Jod out, they'll

15:52

find a way to do that

15:54

along with the supervisor, Stephen Fry,

15:56

as the supervisor. Let's not pretend.

15:58

So that was Stephen Fry. That

16:00

was Stephen... right is a supervisor

16:02

yeah his voice as a supervisor

16:04

that's wild isn't it? The kids

16:06

will sort him out but it's

16:08

to pirates in orbit so I

16:11

can see a scenario where Mando

16:13

and the New Republic just shoot

16:15

them down as in it's another

16:17

routine mission and then the kids

16:19

sort the ground battle out but

16:21

what about you guys? Well, the

16:23

important question here is, is there

16:25

a at-at-in version of QI that

16:27

happens weekly from season to season

16:29

to season. Fry and Lori. Yeah,

16:31

you know, does Stephen Freud, does

16:33

the, what's his name again? The,

16:35

I've got it, I keep wanting

16:37

to say that the principal, the

16:39

supervisor, the supervisor, do you think

16:41

we're going to see the Fry

16:43

Master? Do you think? I actually

16:45

think, based on what Jod Nana

16:47

Nana Nana Nana Nana would said,

16:49

I think the supervisor is a

16:51

droid. Because Jod at the end,

16:53

like, when he says, yeah, you

16:55

get the supervisor, you're better than

16:57

talking to some droid anyway. Oh.

16:59

I think the supervisor, they're going

17:01

to bring him down, this is

17:03

going to be another droid, and

17:05

that's going to be a bit

17:07

like, what? For Jod, and also

17:09

for us. I don't know in

17:11

my head, I've, I've, I've, I've,

17:14

I have met Stephen Fry actually

17:16

in an old job I worked

17:18

at and this guy's, when I

17:20

worked in the theatre, he came

17:22

to see his, one of his

17:24

kids was in one of the

17:26

productions, he's so tall and he's

17:28

so imposing, I can't, I just

17:30

can't imagine him on screen, yeah

17:32

we've got Jude law, but Stephen

17:34

Frye, remember I'm also quite short,

17:36

as well. Right, not me as.

17:38

Flippy, come on, feet, come on.

17:40

What does that, oh six, five,

17:42

he's a big boy and he's

17:44

a big boy and he's a

17:46

big boy. I just remember look,

17:48

he's like, wow, you're taller than

17:50

I've, you're sure than I expected

17:52

he's six, I mean, you don't

17:54

know that tool on Blackadder mate.

17:56

What's show? Yeah, I think it's

17:58

a joyed, but only based on

18:00

what Jod said. Yeah, do you

18:02

think? I think it's throng this

18:04

whole time. If you imagine. Basically,

18:06

he sent one of his little

18:08

lithers. He sent one of his

18:10

little lithers. There is a lizard

18:12

at the beginning of the episode

18:14

on the tree. That's true. That's

18:17

true. You're on, mate. What

18:19

are they called? Yeah, salamieri or something

18:21

like that. Yeah, something like that. Yeah,

18:23

we couldn't get the gunwalk on door.

18:26

It's something like a salamandamieri or something.

18:28

Could you imagine Follone pulling it off,

18:30

mate? Could you imagine? Listen, John and

18:32

Chris, I know you don't think this

18:35

makes any sense, but it makes a

18:37

lot of sense in the cannon. George

18:39

told me, okay. I see. I'm telling

18:42

my... My felony is getting better than

18:44

my George Lucas at this time. It's

18:46

getting exceptionally good. I'm not going to

18:48

write it, mate. It's almost couldn't distinguish

18:51

between the real man and you then.

18:53

Yeah, I know. Thanks, ma'am. Yeah, right.

18:55

Let's talk a little bit about the

18:57

kiddos in this episode. Wym is afraid

19:00

and hesitant to go back to his

19:02

regular monotonous life and his kind of,

19:04

I want to say a strange relationship

19:07

with his father, with his dad. You

19:09

know you get that moment later on

19:11

in the episode where he kind of

19:13

runs up to his dad and pauses

19:16

but it's his dad who leans in

19:18

and picks up the cuddle. But ultimately

19:20

it's the other kiddos that remind him

19:23

of like well no we've had an

19:25

adventure and that's been fun you know

19:27

and they remind him of that but

19:29

he's afraid to go back home because

19:32

it's not the life that he wants

19:34

right? It's quite interesting really, and it

19:36

does make me wonder what is the

19:38

future of this planet. You know, when

19:41

we chatted to John Watts and Chris

19:43

Ford in our interviews before the show,

19:45

they said the implications, the effects of

19:48

Skelet and Crew will impact the Star

19:50

Wars galaxy, i.e. the cannon, right? Now

19:52

what does that mean? After this episode,

19:54

my immediate thoughts went to, well, that's

19:57

how you finance a first order, mate.

19:59

Your dog. Exactly that. Okay. Yes, I

20:01

did have a couple of caveats though,

20:04

because I'm like, how, how, and I

20:06

always will do, but we don't know

20:08

how long it's been since the last

20:10

Republic MS-3 was there, because they still

20:13

call it the Republic. Because I still

20:15

call it the Republic. Because I have

20:17

on my notes. highlighted in green, who

20:19

are the Republic emissaries and where are

20:22

they taking the money? So they're taking

20:24

shipfuls of old Republic credits somewhere. Now

20:26

if it's a semi-regular pickup, like even

20:29

if it's like once every few years,

20:31

I think you might be under something

20:33

there mate, but if it's like, if

20:35

they haven't been seen for a couple

20:38

of hundred years because, well since the

20:40

High Republic or the Old Republic, well

20:42

then, maybe not so much, but... My

20:44

first thought was, someone's, emissaries have been

20:47

coming into this planet, taking the money

20:49

and these guys have been none the

20:51

wiser. Yeah. How do we get to

20:54

where the first order are building a

20:56

massive fleet? Well, there's this pyramid. There's

20:58

two of them though, this tiny little

21:00

pyramid. You plug it into your ship,

21:03

yeah, and it takes you on a

21:05

weird route to this planet you've never

21:07

heard of, called Exigole. Yeah, it's called

21:10

that because of a great, a great

21:12

girl that was scored by Exeter this

21:14

one time. Said no one ever. Apart

21:16

from the Exeter fans, how would you,

21:19

what would you call this thing that

21:21

you find a way to get to

21:23

something? A McGuffin, that's what I would

21:25

call it, Matt. Okay good good. I'd

21:28

call it I'd call it a classic

21:30

Jay Jay Abrams. That's not that's got

21:32

to be that's got to be that's

21:35

got to be the domino effect right

21:37

that's the source of all this cash

21:39

and it just makes I think it

21:41

makes sense that oh these Republic people

21:44

coming and taking the money well no

21:46

they're not Republic their first order or

21:48

their final order whatever the heck they're

21:50

called in Tros right and the Attatin

21:53

man then they wouldn't know they would

21:55

be none the wiser because as far

21:57

as they're concerned the Republic of old

22:00

are still ruling the galaxy yeah they

22:02

don't know what's going on what's going

22:04

on they just saw this like shiny

22:06

ship come down to the to the

22:09

little park Yeah, we'll call that Gloucester

22:11

Park, like the park that was near

22:13

our office in Basseville. I drove past

22:16

there the other day, mate, and I

22:18

was like, oh, I used to walk

22:20

there with Lukie Boy. I know, with

22:22

some doughnuts and gregs and a coffee.

22:25

Remember when we went and recorded there

22:27

from a park bench and it just

22:29

got too cold? I was like, we've

22:31

got a go, this is too cold.

22:34

Yeah, there's a picture somewhere, we've got

22:36

a hoods up with our little microphones.

22:38

love that photo and the ship comes

22:41

and lands what well not that it's

22:43

some ship the onyxinda the new onyxinda

22:45

comes and lands in the park and

22:47

you've got all the at-atteners like looking

22:50

around thinking oh yeah what's what's this

22:52

and the park kind of lifts up

22:54

and you see people just fall down

22:56

that was my favorite bit yeah you

22:59

see classic songs See some roadions just

23:01

fall down a hill again. I've seen

23:03

it all today lads. I've seen a

23:06

quarant pilot. I've seen a roadian fall

23:08

down a hill. What's not to love

23:10

mate? What's not to love art? Well,

23:12

this is cinema. This is what it's

23:15

all about, mate. I don't think we

23:17

need a finale. We're not going to

23:19

hit the highs of this episode of

23:22

a roadion being launched down a hill

23:24

of something which he had no idea

23:26

was coming. What I liked about that

23:28

scene as well, that aside. As soon

23:31

as that, as soon as that ship

23:33

touched down, they clamped that and they

23:35

screwed the clamps on, that thing ain't

23:37

going anywhere without authorization. I thought that

23:40

was pretty cool. I mean, At At

23:42

It looks like a nice planet. Very

23:44

well kept. They've been mowing the ground.

23:47

else there keeping the trees and I

23:49

was improved. A very perfect society it

23:51

looks like and everything we've seen of

23:53

this planet looks like a perfect society

23:56

and everything we've and what we said

23:58

in our pre-show ramble as well is

24:00

that we always said about the suburbs

24:03

we said we probably won't be there

24:05

for that much maybe at the beginning

24:07

and maybe at the end maybe all

24:09

this conversation about the suburbs is much

24:12

to do about nothing and so far

24:14

it has been that. We aren't we

24:16

haven't been talking about the suburbs in

24:18

space for five weeks now at least

24:21

probably something about six or four or

24:23

five weeks a month at least because

24:25

it's not important it's just anesthetic choice

24:28

they went for for this utopian society

24:30

yeah which I'm fine with but I

24:32

really like the design of of this

24:34

this hidden underground is this where the

24:37

kids get sent the minds where they

24:39

get sent they've been naughty The one

24:41

mentioned at the beginning of the series,

24:43

yeah, which you think was our tongue

24:46

in cheek a little bit, but is

24:48

there some truth to it? What are

24:50

people sent down there to move around

24:53

gold? Who knows? Yeah. Could be mate,

24:55

but I love the design of it.

24:57

When they're going down and the very

24:59

slow descent and when they finally get

25:02

there, I really like that. I thought

25:04

the, this was one of the first

25:06

times in the show where I, and

25:09

this is nitpicky, I'll hold my hands

25:11

up right now and admit that, but

25:13

it was the first time I was

25:15

like, oh this is a bit volume

25:18

in you, this bit, this is a

25:20

bit, I don't know how I should

25:22

do that and you have to remember

25:24

the restraints of being a TV show,

25:27

this had a smaller budget than productions

25:29

like Accolite and And Or, right? Just

25:31

being honest, that was something where I

25:34

was like, I noticed that a little

25:36

bit, like it does look like the

25:38

lift for our American friends, the cousins,

25:40

the elevator bit. It did look like,

25:43

oh, they've just got the screen on

25:45

the volume and they're just pushing the

25:47

graphics up, right? And no one's actually

25:49

moving, right? came across a little bit

25:52

like that. I can't, I'm not a

25:54

VFX person, I can't explain why, it's

25:56

just that's how it was kind of

25:59

delivered to me as an audience member

26:01

I think. So, I only want to

26:03

say that because other times this episode

26:05

and indeed this season, I think the

26:08

VFX have really stood up, they've been

26:10

really good. So. I just wanted to

26:12

bring that point out, right, that there

26:15

were some hires and lows when it

26:17

comes to the V effects in this

26:19

episode, but overall I was really happy

26:21

with them. Like that must be a

26:24

big task to go, we're going to

26:26

build, we're going to design this gold

26:28

mine, where all these mints, where all

26:30

these credits are, and you know. Yeah.

26:33

Yeah. Yeah. We always see both. We

26:35

spend a lot of these recaps, you

26:37

me and Dave done. praising the show

26:40

more than we have potentially nitpicking as

26:42

well. And we've been known to nitpick.

26:44

And we're only going to pull things

26:46

out. There was a couple, there was

26:49

one or two things in the episode

26:51

I was going to bring up, I'll

26:53

bring them up in a bit, which

26:56

I thought, all right, if that's in

26:58

any other show, I don't know if

27:00

that flies, I see why you've done

27:02

it, but that relates to something like

27:05

an actual scene, I'm sure we'll mention,

27:07

but. which is gold, covering gold, covering

27:09

gold, look like it's actually there. And

27:11

these things are giant. It's one of

27:14

the things I notice, is like this

27:16

is a massive vaults. And a fun

27:18

little detail, because I think, oh, that's

27:21

a fun number. There's 1,139 vaults on

27:23

the planet. Not quite THX, 1138 is

27:25

the 39. Because I was like, 1,

27:27

1, 3. The numbers always have summing.

27:30

2, 1, 1, 3. The numbers always

27:32

have summing. 2, 2, 2, 1, 1,

27:34

1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,

27:36

1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,

27:39

1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,

27:41

1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,

27:43

1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,

27:46

1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,

27:48

1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,

27:50

1, the puppet's debut which I thought

27:52

I assume was a very intentional nod.

27:55

What I mean of course yeah of

27:57

course it's a little cheeky THX nod

27:59

so do you think just going back

28:02

to because I'm thinking about the big

28:04

old vault and all that money and

28:06

Jod just losing it like nearly crying

28:08

and then just he's like almost eating

28:11

you're not like a kid of a

28:13

chocolate fountain. You're about to say a

28:15

drunkard underneath a beer tap but yours

28:17

is probably better. No we'll go with

28:20

that we'll go with the pub. You're

28:22

at the pub. and there's not many

28:24

people in the pub and the server

28:27

the pub matron is in the bathroom

28:29

you just yeah pub landlord whatever just

28:31

you know I'm done a machine I

28:33

don't know why unlimited ice cream mate

28:36

the dream I don't know where I

28:38

was going right hang on right the

28:40

supervisor do you remember to a few

28:42

weeks ago, a few days ago, everyone

28:45

was like that pirate guy, you know,

28:47

the pirate, what's his name? Tack Renard.

28:49

Tack Renard, what a name. Everyone's like,

28:52

well, that's the supervisor. Now, the Tack

28:54

Renard message that we got earlier on

28:56

in the season, didn't sound like Stephen

28:58

Fry, right? So. What a weird thing

29:01

to say. I won, but it makes

29:03

me wonder what happened what happened to

29:05

all Tack, Tackhead. Tick-tack-tack, Tick-tack-tack-tack-tack-tack-tack-tack-tack-tack-tack-tack-tack-tack-tack-tack-tack-tack-tack-tack-tack- Well, John

29:08

says that his concubine stabbed him and

29:10

killed him. And then we did see

29:12

Jod obviously pull the knife out of

29:14

the guy, the skeleton in episode two.

29:17

Maybe that was Jod making up a

29:19

story in his head being like, well,

29:21

there was a skeleton who was stabbed.

29:23

Let's just say that was Tack. He

29:26

may or may not have had Tack

29:28

Renner's hat on. That's what I'd have

29:30

to check. Because when they get to

29:33

that planet of Lenupa. and the kids

29:35

are introduced as the wise elders and

29:37

they've all got like gowns on. Pretty

29:39

sure, Weem is wearing a hat that

29:42

looks a lot like Tack Renner's hat.

29:44

So... I think Tack is dead. I

29:46

think he did, was killed by his

29:49

concubine, is mistress. But, and I do

29:51

think Stephen Fry is a different, I

29:53

think the supervisor is a different character,

29:55

because like you said, the attack sounded

29:58

like a pirate. I can very much

30:00

like he'd expect a pirate to, he

30:02

was one, ah, away from being full

30:04

on pirate. Whereas Stephen Fry just sounds

30:07

like a nice guy. Overly malipity of

30:09

nice guy. on the PA system, so

30:11

I don't think that's him. Now what

30:14

would you do if, you know, we

30:16

get up there and, well, I found

30:18

him at the great time to bring

30:20

by General Grievous and... Steep in front

30:23

of his head. Could you imagine? Could

30:25

you imagine? I can imagine a lot

30:27

of Lake Town in the hobby. Yeah,

30:29

exactly, I can imagine. It was great

30:32

seeing the lightsabor and use in this

30:34

episode as well. Right, let's talk some

30:36

light saber mate, let's talk some light

30:39

saber. Okay, first and foremost, I thought

30:41

it sounded really good, like really imposing.

30:43

And I don't know if they did

30:45

something different if they just cranked up

30:48

that volume or something, but I was

30:50

like, oh, this is, this is nice,

30:52

maybe it's... Maybe it's because it's um

30:55

it's it's it's been a few months

30:57

since the acaly and for the most

30:59

part I've kind of just you know

31:01

got rid of that from my mind

31:04

I jest not really but um love

31:06

it love it mate yeah I don't

31:08

I don't I don't know I thought

31:10

the lightsaber was a great addition and

31:13

used in a in a threatening manner

31:15

it was exciting I still can't believe

31:17

SM33 just got beheaded in front of

31:20

the kids and I just wasn't I

31:22

just wasn't expecting that moment and it

31:24

was a great moment so I'm sure

31:26

we'll see it in in the next

31:29

episode because that's the last scene we

31:31

see is jod with that bad boy

31:33

light saber that beautiful blue light saber

31:35

threatening the kids and the parents which

31:38

we see a lot of in this

31:40

episode too so there you go you've

31:42

got a light saber conversation and a

31:45

lovely segue to the parents as well

31:47

in there mate take your pick which

31:49

one brother well that light saber it

31:51

sounded great I'm guessing they're in a

31:54

cramped they're in a cramped cockpit it's

31:56

a nice bit of echo this Matt

31:58

wooden the sound guys were like right

32:01

let's make this sound yes domineering as

32:03

possible and funny that I've got the

32:05

same thing that the lightsaber felt like

32:07

a weapon that carries real threat again

32:10

like this feel that you don't usually

32:12

that also comes down to the person

32:14

holding it but judge without a second

32:16

thought was like I am going to

32:19

take this fall down in the most

32:21

in the most uh I can't think

32:23

of the word but efficient way possible

32:26

I'm going to cut its head off

32:28

and decapitate decapitate. I did know, I

32:30

did say, you know, John looked a

32:32

little rusty of his saber swing. He

32:35

didn't have much room to swing it,

32:37

but you know, very kind of slow

32:39

and deliberate, but he looked cool doing

32:42

it. I like that. Well, has he,

32:44

sorry to interrupt me, has he ever

32:46

used a lightsaber before? Exactly, I mean

32:48

I put, he looked a little rusty

32:51

with his saber swing on my notes,

32:53

but he may never have used one

32:55

before or he may actually know how

32:57

to use it and is, and it

33:00

was one, two, Bosch, you know, when

33:02

Obie one did that to Maul, one,

33:04

two, Bosch, we were all loving it,

33:07

we weren't like eyes. So it was

33:09

a very calculated move, he knew what

33:11

he was doing and he knew how

33:13

to, he wasn't panicking with that light

33:16

saber with that lightsaver, so he was

33:18

a little rusty. or he was very

33:20

calculated in killing that droid. So I

33:22

really, but yeah, I really liked seeing

33:25

him use that nice payoff to the

33:27

fact that we know he's got a

33:29

lightsaber. Let's use it. And the final

33:32

shot, it looked a little bit like

33:34

Master Skywalker. There are too many of

33:36

them because it ignites a blue and

33:38

instead of it being little Ross Bedeman,

33:41

it's Neil. He's got a Neil frame

33:43

with the blue light saber and... I

33:45

love that, especially when he said to

33:48

these kids, mate, you know, I'm so

33:50

glad I saw that hologram from your

33:52

mummer, because now I know what your

33:54

parents are like, I'm gonna kill him.

33:57

I'm gonna carve them up, piece by

33:59

piece, really slowly, in front of you.

34:01

I'm like, mate, chill. But even then,

34:03

he's not harming the kids, because that

34:06

would be too far, and I'm not

34:08

advocating that. But he's doing so verbally.

34:10

So whilst we could say, oh, he's

34:13

not actually hurting them, oh no, he's,

34:15

you know, whim's crying and he's like,

34:17

you, you loser, basically, you're the weakest

34:19

of the lot, I'm going to kill

34:22

your parents and stuff like that. I

34:24

mean, he's clearly, and it's what I

34:26

mean about the redemption. It would take

34:28

an awful lot for me to believe

34:31

that this guy is going to be

34:33

a good guy by the end of

34:35

the next episode, buddy. So yeah, lightsaber,

34:38

great, parents really enjoyed like the stun

34:40

blast relay at the beginning, like going

34:42

down one by one, caveers parents, those

34:44

fools, they couldn't last 20 meters. Well

34:47

that was incredibly ambling, wasn't it? You

34:49

know, strange things. E.T. E.T. Yeah, the

34:51

lights through the forest, it was dark.

34:54

I was wondering to myself to be

34:56

a bit nerdy as well. Was that

34:58

done on volume or did they go

35:00

to a woods and do that because

35:03

it must have been difficult to be

35:05

difficult to effectively have a river. I'm

35:07

sure you could do it, but to

35:09

have a river flowing through the set

35:12

of, I mean I don't know how

35:14

that would work, but movie magic, they

35:16

might have filmed some on location, some

35:19

on the volume and then piece it

35:21

together. Or even in just in a

35:23

sound studio or something like that maybe,

35:25

yeah, but that was really fun and

35:28

a little device that shoots me a

35:30

thing. That essentially wasn't needed in the

35:32

end was it? Oh no well they

35:35

got the message I suppose in the

35:37

ship so okay well that was our

35:39

kind of check-off transmitter for this episode

35:41

we saw we saw it go up

35:44

in the beginning of the episode it's

35:46

gonna come into at some point and

35:48

it does. Well when it was going

35:50

up I was like that looks familiar.

35:53

Do you know what it reminded me

35:55

of? A drone? Well yeah, New Jersey

35:57

mate, I don't know what's going on

36:00

there. I remember one time being up

36:02

in Birmingham with my brother-in-law he's mad

36:04

into like Stargazin and like he's got

36:06

a really cool telescope and stuff. And

36:09

we went absolutely mental because there were

36:11

these red lights in the sky moving

36:13

around really quickly and it was kind

36:15

of, drones were kind of new at

36:18

the time, but we were, both of

36:20

our immediate thoughts were, oh, we're getting

36:22

nuked by Russia. Yeah, that was, how

36:25

long ago was this? Oh, this was

36:27

a few years ago, ma'am. I'm embarrassed

36:29

to say. But yeah, no, it's true,

36:31

it's true. But, no, I thought, I

36:34

thought it looked like the chip in

36:36

ET to mention the ambling goodness again.

36:38

I was like, it's like a mini

36:41

ship, you know, at the end, yes,

36:43

it does, yeah, it does, like the

36:45

triangle, you can look at the ship,

36:47

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it here,

36:50

and go home. Anyway, I thought, I

36:52

wonder if that was actually a direct

36:54

nod, because they're awfully similar. Has to

36:56

be, has to be, has to be,

36:59

I mean, I mean, I asked, I

37:01

asked John and Chris myself, like, like,

37:03

like, like, like, like, like, How much

37:06

of like that, you know, you and

37:08

the stuff you love, did you get

37:10

into this show? And he's like, all

37:12

of it, everything. So I think, well,

37:15

I mentioned like 1139, that's clearly a

37:17

deliberate nod to Papa. The beginning felt

37:19

like ET. I would say stranger things,

37:21

but I've only seen one season. I

37:24

need to watch the rest. But that,

37:26

but in looking back from what I

37:28

remember, yes, that did bear a striking

37:31

resemblance to the ship at the end

37:33

of ET, which I think would be

37:35

very, and if that's the case then

37:37

that's great because to a lot of

37:40

people maybe mainly the young people who

37:42

watch the show they might not know

37:44

that and it might just be that's

37:47

cool and when they go back and

37:49

watch gt they can make the connection

37:51

and That's what I love is, it

37:53

could introduce people to these classic films.

37:56

Or, you know, people just might not

37:58

never have seen ET, they might not

38:00

make the connection to think, that looks

38:02

like a great bit of kit that

38:05

they've just thrown together. I like that.

38:07

I mean, I'm glad that they knew

38:09

how to make it and they knew

38:12

it was going to work, but that's

38:14

the kind of thing which I'm like,

38:16

you know what, it's fine, go on.

38:18

We'll let that slide. Well I suppose

38:21

it shows the intention of the of

38:23

the parents right the families that's the

38:25

that's the important thing is that they

38:28

were trying they weren't just stuck in

38:30

their day to days and I wondered

38:32

how on earth they they got down

38:34

to the min at the end so

38:37

how did they so they got a

38:39

little speeder and went right a hover

38:41

thing in it a hover thing how

38:43

did they get away with that were

38:46

the droids just like yeah go on

38:48

then Maybe we want you down there

38:50

or maybe the supervisor send them. Well

38:53

maybe because they did say the droid

38:55

did say oh these kids have been

38:57

reported as missing. In my head unlike

38:59

maybe the droids realize that was a

39:02

parent so they bought them down to

39:04

get their kids I don't know but

39:06

it's the same as like how did

39:08

child get on the onix cinder for

39:11

the end we didn't see it but

39:13

you know in my head maybe forced

39:15

dashed maybe forced jumped. Right in the

39:18

end of the end of a day

39:20

he just did is and that's... That's

39:22

just storytelling, isn't it? Whereas with the

39:24

parents, yeah, I mean, I'm guessing it's

39:27

because they were being reunited with their

39:29

kids. But that's just my own bunch

39:31

saying that. Oh yeah, that's good. Yeah,

39:34

that sounds simple enough. That sounds straightforward

39:36

enough. It's

39:53

the best pot of cars you've ever

39:55

heard. Star with sessions on the mic,

39:58

it's quite absurd. Got a patriot now,

40:00

we're a lot of tears from to

40:02

the... as a month, it's all it

40:05

is. Best podcast. Hello there? Best podcast.

40:07

Best podcast. Roger. I don't want to

40:09

take that for granting because I think

40:11

the level of acting in this series

40:14

has been top-notch. It's been superb. And

40:16

once again we get a brilliant performance,

40:18

but all of them in this episode,

40:21

I think particularly Thurne, I think Thurne

40:23

was a standout in this episode. Whim

40:25

had some great moments again. What have

40:28

I got written down here about all

40:30

whimmy? Whim. Oh no, it was the

40:32

moment again between his dad and him

40:35

it reminded me a little bit of

40:37

rogue one where you have Jin and

40:39

Jin's dad Galen and there's the message.

40:42

Whim's dad's is father saying, oh Whim,

40:44

straight up I'm sorry I didn't listen

40:46

to you. Yeah, and it's that little

40:49

bit of acknowledgement of women like yes,

40:51

see I told you and I wonder

40:53

what the repercussions of that will be

40:56

You know, I think the right is

40:58

on the wall that women isn't going

41:00

to be staying on at-at in all

41:03

its life But that is forbidden isn't

41:05

it in their in their society in

41:07

their rules their law? So what implications

41:10

of that right does does that at-at-in

41:12

open up to the Republic to the

41:14

world? Right is it allowed to do

41:16

people upright? What what happens? That's a

41:19

great show. It's fun in it. It's

41:21

fun. It is. And I can see

41:23

that. I can see the people arising

41:26

up and being like, we've been held

41:28

down for so long. All of this

41:30

stuff has happened. We knew nothing about

41:33

it. We've had all this money. Could

41:35

we have used it to help? Could

41:37

we have used it to help? Or

41:40

the Jedi or anything? I don't know.

41:42

But I think with whim. I think

41:44

it could be a little car ado

41:47

situation and similar, I think it was

41:49

the end of season one of Mando

41:51

where Carson Teaver flips that Republic badge

41:54

and he's like, and he's like, think

41:56

about it. Now this could be a

41:58

future new Republic. Think about it, yeah?

42:01

If you want to go on an

42:03

adventure and never be on screen again

42:05

then. I'd say probably to think about

42:08

a few things as well, but yeah,

42:10

think about your posts. Yeah. So don't

42:12

don't feel controversial. Just shut up with

42:15

you. Shut your mouth. You know I

42:17

think I think it'll be something like

42:19

that. I think you'll at the end

42:22

of it they'll be saved. The New

42:24

Republic will touch down whether it's Carson

42:26

Seaver. He'll be like you're our kid.

42:28

If you ever want to come up

42:31

here and fly with us let us

42:33

know or something silly like that. Yeah.

42:35

And then when we'll probably be a

42:38

pilot in the resistance in 30 years,

42:40

25 years time. Which would be fun.

42:42

I'm sure they could tell us he

42:45

was at the Battle of Mexico. I'm

42:47

sure they could fit that in somewhere

42:49

because there's about 10 million ships on

42:52

account before. So I think that's how

42:54

it will work. We sat one spinning

42:56

around just having that too much of

42:59

a good time. Yeah, I thought... Wow!

43:01

Oh wow! Yeah man this is this

43:03

is it is what is the repercussions

43:06

based on what this episode is telling

43:08

us is so much I love that

43:10

they've set us up now for a

43:13

finale and I know we've got other

43:15

stuff to cover in this episode I

43:17

love that they're setting us up for

43:20

the finale where we are on at

43:22

at in now we don't have to

43:24

get there we don't have to worry

43:27

that we're gonna waste half an episode

43:29

getting there we are there so I

43:31

imagine the next episode 35 40 minutes

43:33

maybe it's just gonna be on the

43:36

planet and how do we stop Jod

43:38

and the pirates from plundering our loot

43:40

because Jod's that image of him on

43:43

his knees was cackling in like tearful

43:45

lustful glee as the money was covering

43:47

him. I know we're not supposed to

43:50

like him but I'm like oh look

43:52

at him he is is such a

43:54

great time. It's hard to dislike him

43:57

because he's such a, he's got such

43:59

a magnetic persona to him that even

44:01

when he's sold the kids out, he's

44:04

going to kill the parents, he's killed

44:06

to me, seeing him as covered in

44:08

gold, I'm like, oh, good for you.

44:11

Good for him. It's hard not to

44:13

like, Jod, because he looks awfully like

44:15

that guy in the holiday, which is

44:18

another feel-good good film of the year

44:20

every year every year, you know, bit

44:22

like return of the Jedi, in, in,

44:25

in, in that vein, in that vein,

44:27

in, in, in, in, in, in, in,

44:29

in, in, in, in, in, in, in,

44:32

in, in, in, in, in, in, in,

44:34

in, in, in, in, in, in, in,

44:36

in, in, in, in, in, in, in,

44:39

in, in, in, in, in, in, in,

44:41

in, in, in, in If you pun

44:43

the pun, the pun, yeah. Oh, yeah,

44:45

thank you, see? Yeah, we've not, we've

44:48

not used that enough. We've been in

44:50

it, actually. It's just been in the

44:52

background. This is what, this is what

44:55

I mean, this lads, like they were

44:57

like, oh yeah, the connectivity, oh, maybe

44:59

we've got what we need done. Right,

45:02

right, right, yeah, that's what I was

45:04

looking like, yeah. It's not inherently a

45:06

bad thing is it? It could be,

45:09

it could actually be a good thing

45:11

that he's not, he's not like knee

45:13

deep in the series. I don't know

45:16

what. Well, expression, yeah. I hope he

45:18

gets shot though just because I don't

45:20

want it to get to Mando and

45:23

Croker and then the Empire magazine's like,

45:25

Vain's returning and he's going to be

45:27

an antagonist and he's just in the

45:30

pub. Please don't, please. Yeah. Fun episode

45:32

mate really really fun episode jod is

45:34

a nasty piece of work, but he's

45:37

still likable the relationship with the parents

45:39

I thought was was really cool and

45:41

so just seeing you know blue elephant

45:44

mama is just it's great Numa I

45:46

think her name is Numa and I

45:48

saw a rumor as well Neil's, Neil's

45:50

flame, Neil's crush, she was there. Did

45:53

we? When? Yeah I'm pretty sure I

45:55

saw a green cat go when they

45:57

were all looking up at the at

46:00

the ship. Ohhh. A species of similar.

46:02

Because they get that message don't they

46:04

like don't panic everyone this is a

46:07

roof delivery of something don't you know

46:09

and they're all thinking what like only

46:11

what does he say I'm pretty sure

46:14

I've only seen the episode the once

46:16

so I'm pretty sure he says something

46:18

along the lines of yeah we're expecting

46:21

a delivery only necessary work continue it's

46:23

not necessary go home yeah reminds me

46:25

of five years coming up to five

46:28

years ago That's insane. I know. Yeah,

46:30

only key workers are out. Yeah, exactly.

46:32

I don't want to think about that.

46:35

Some people went straight to YouTube, you

46:37

know, back home or At-at-in-tube and were

46:39

like, nah, it's all load of rubbish.

46:42

Go take all the pasta and toilet

46:44

roll. Crazy days, mate. Exactly. Oh, sorry,

46:46

mate, on the top of my list.

46:49

I've got, we nearly, we nearly got,

46:51

I've got a bad feeling about this.

46:53

I love that. Yes, yes, we had

46:55

one of those in the, in the,

46:58

we're trying to rack our brains here,

47:00

have we had a bad feeling in

47:02

any of the series yet? Have anyone

47:05

said that? I'm sure we have. I'm

47:07

sure we have. Or is that just

47:09

a skywalk, a thing or a film

47:12

thing? I don't know. We'll have to,

47:14

can't remember. Off the top of my

47:16

nog in, I'm not so sure, I'm

47:19

not so sure, I'm not confident, I'm

47:21

not confident, I'm not confident, I'm not

47:23

confident, I'm not confident, I'm not confident,

47:26

I'm not confident, right, right. I'm not

47:28

confident, right. I'm not confident, right. I'm

47:30

not confident, right. How did, remind me,

47:33

I've got a question for you, because

47:35

you're the canon guy and you usually

47:37

watch everything with subtitles anyway, so... I

47:40

do. Did you watch this with subtitles?

47:42

You know it. You're a madman. You're

47:44

a madman. But anyway, right, the... The

47:47

onyxinder, there is a line in the

47:49

episode where they're like, oh, it's not

47:51

a pirate ship, it's an at-and-ship, yeah,

47:54

so... that work do we know did

47:56

it did I miss something or do

47:58

we just take it I think

48:00

we just take it that at some

48:02

point tack commended came a

48:04

attack rendered sorry stumbled across

48:07

that ship in space took

48:09

over it yeah this armament outside

48:11

of it because as jod quickly

48:13

realizes the ship itself is the

48:16

key what the ship can pass

48:18

through the the energy barrier that

48:20

attack Renard set up so that

48:22

it that that defensive perimeter that

48:24

was set up by tack which

48:26

is interesting tack so obviously when

48:29

it passes through tick tact but

48:31

the the vessel goes green doesn't

48:33

it the defensive shell goes green obviously

48:35

green is good green means go

48:37

so we know as far as

48:39

I'm aware we haven't missed anything

48:41

I'm I'm guessing the assumption is

48:43

that you just nick the ship retold

48:46

it and was able or was hoping

48:48

to go back and forward, but

48:50

the thing I'm thinking though is

48:52

the attack Renard plundered at Attain,

48:54

but the ship ended up

48:56

being crashed there. However, he

48:59

also built a defensive perimeter,

49:01

so he must have been on

49:03

the planet before. Do we know that?

49:05

Well, this is the thing, and these

49:07

are questions I do hope are answered,

49:10

or at least just filled in,

49:12

some of the context is filled

49:14

in a little bit more in

49:16

the finale. Right, and I don't want

49:18

it just to be left like a

49:20

comic or something. I do want just

49:22

a little bit more explanation on how

49:24

that works. And it's not something that

49:26

I'm too hung up about. It is

49:28

the truth. It's just little details. When

49:31

you're talking about this, doing a podcast,

49:33

analyzing this stuff week in week out,

49:35

you want answers for this stuff. Yeah,

49:37

how did Palpatine return? somehow I don't

49:39

know like it could it could be

49:41

yeah somehow pirate guy died ticked act

49:43

died and there's a barrier but the

49:45

ship it was already there and therefore

49:47

I you know who knows I don't know

49:49

they may have already said it like they

49:51

may have said that he was there and

49:54

then right but I've missed it but I

49:56

don't recall them saying it like I know

49:58

that he knew where the planet was I

50:00

know that. And that he knew that

50:02

there was loot to plunder, but I

50:04

can't remember they've ever said he went

50:07

there. So if anyone's listening, drop it

50:09

in our comment to say yes, he

50:11

did go there because then we know

50:13

we're not going down the wrong path

50:15

here. But there is a few things

50:18

like that, which I hope they do

50:20

give us further backstory on. I don't

50:22

need much more backstory on the characters

50:24

outside of Jod, really. The kids are

50:27

kids. They haven't lived a life. being

50:29

to school. Parents, I'd like to, the

50:31

thing about the parents, I'd like to

50:33

know is, when they have the hologram

50:35

and Wendell, Whims governor says, you know,

50:38

we weren't going to tell you this

50:40

until he graduated about the secret planet,

50:42

do they have more to tell the

50:44

kids about Atting, like, do they know

50:47

everything or, you know, what, what are

50:49

they going to tell the kids? Are

50:51

we going to find out more? So

50:53

in terms of characters, Jod's really the

50:55

only one that I... I still think

50:58

we were on something the other week

51:00

like thematically I think he's still essentially

51:02

a force sensitive fine but I feel

51:04

like they're setting us up for him

51:07

to at least say you know I

51:09

was this once or I wanted to

51:11

be this once rather than I'm just

51:13

a guy. I still think we were

51:16

on something the other week like thematically

51:18

I think he's still essentially a kid.

51:20

who at some point was deserted during

51:22

his childhood. That's what it's giving. That's

51:24

the vibe that you kind of get.

51:27

And that's the realization of the acting

51:29

kids is like, well, hey, life in

51:31

that and might be boring, but they

51:33

love that families and so on and

51:36

so forth. So the only other point

51:38

in my notes, mate, that I've got

51:40

that I wanted to ask you about.

51:42

is run times actually just to be

51:44

a little bit boring this was on

51:47

the shorter end of the run times

51:49

once again what was it in the

51:51

end mate if you got that it

51:53

was like 36 minutes with credits I

51:56

think when I paused it the end.

51:58

I think it was 29 minutes overall.

52:00

I think you were saying that's including

52:02

the Disney Plus blurb at the beginning.

52:05

So 27 and a half minutes. So

52:07

once again I really did enjoy this

52:09

episode overall, right? I do sometimes wish

52:11

there was a smidge more runtime, but

52:13

I think for Skeleton crew it works

52:16

really, really well. For Mando, I think

52:18

at times it feels more infuriating because

52:20

you could spend more time on some

52:22

of these episodes and pad stuff out.

52:25

Skelly see, it feels a bit different.

52:27

The audience is maybe a bit different.

52:29

You could argue anyway. Do you think?

52:31

Now what happens next week? And we

52:33

see the finale, you see the episodes

52:36

on Disney Plus and you see the

52:38

runtime is 35 minutes. Would you be

52:40

disappointed? Because I think I would be.

52:42

I think I would feel like that.

52:45

And maybe I'm prejudging, well I would

52:47

be prejudging it. But I'm just saying

52:49

that's how I would feel. I know

52:51

I'd feel like that. I mean I

52:54

feel disappointed with any episode of a

52:56

live action Star Wars series is sub

52:58

40 minutes. I know I always say

53:00

you can only film what you've got

53:02

on the page, let's not waffle on

53:05

and put an extra five, ten minutes

53:07

on if it's not needed. However, you

53:09

know these sub-30 minute episodes, this is

53:11

like three or four minutes longer than

53:14

an episode of Rebels or Clone Wars

53:16

or Bad Batch Resistance, whatever. This is

53:18

looking at similar run times here and

53:20

I don't really think there's any need

53:22

for that other than you know was

53:25

it a long thing chopped up into

53:27

episodes i do we i would like

53:29

to assume that this final one would

53:31

be as long as the first episode

53:34

which was about 45 minutes give or

53:36

take i think episode one was 45

53:38

to 50 minutes long i'd like to

53:40

think the finale would be that long

53:42

as well but i guess it all

53:45

comes down to what they've got planned

53:47

it depends on if there is going

53:49

to be a pirates in space battle

53:51

when the on the ground battle and

53:54

they've got to find that or if

53:56

it's going to be a more intimate

53:58

affair where it's just more character development

54:00

about we're going to have to we've

54:03

got to talk jod down and thrash

54:05

out our differences and have a good

54:07

message there I don't know mate I

54:09

know if it was 35 minutes if

54:11

it comes out as that of course

54:14

I'll be disappointed because it ain't long

54:16

to tell your story regardless of what's

54:18

on the page for your finale I

54:20

would like to see them one day

54:23

go out with a with a bit

54:25

of a bang and be like here

54:27

we go here's a one-hour episode if

54:29

it justifies it or 45 minutes yeah

54:31

here we go you know I know

54:34

they don't have to because they're not

54:36

shackled by satellite TV or cable or

54:38

terrestrial adverts and rotors and schedules so

54:40

they can do what they want and

54:43

I did wish sometimes that they would

54:45

play to that like the other big

54:47

live action series for example like if

54:49

Shogun like succession like succession stuff where

54:52

they do play with their run times

54:54

a lot better Yeah, no, I appreciate

54:56

that mate. I think we're on the

54:58

same page and I think this has

55:00

been a fun, fun little recap. I

55:03

am officially at the end of my

55:05

notage mate. My notes aren't as long

55:07

as other episodes, I'll be honest with

55:09

you, but I still enjoyed it. I

55:12

think there's a lot to take away,

55:14

lots of drama and I'm excited and

55:16

I won't lie the nerves are kicking

55:18

in a little bit for the finale

55:20

next week. Oh you dog. It's been

55:23

a great run though, mate. Seven episodes

55:25

in, and I think they've been really

55:27

consistent. I'll say that. How are you

55:29

feeling, mate? Going into the finale, going

55:32

into next, well, before we do that,

55:34

have you got any notes? Have I

55:36

missed anything? What are you going to

55:38

bring out? I've got a few things.

55:41

I won't labour on many of them.

55:43

I love the transmission, sorry, from the

55:45

parents with Fara saying, look, you're not

55:47

in trouble, just come home, KBs parents.

55:49

basically saying look after yourself and don't

55:52

do this because you've got to keep

55:54

your cybernetics dry which would have come

55:56

in handy for a few weeks ago.

55:58

Neil's parents calling him a sweet baby

56:01

boy and saying little brother got a

56:03

new tooth and a little datery but

56:05

he just wants his big brother. A

56:07

little alien boy, a little elephant boy

56:09

and and a follower so I loved

56:12

that I thought it was very hard

56:14

for a very poignant and they're trying

56:16

and this is this is classic whim

56:18

he loves it. They're gonna plan to

56:21

trick greedy jod but whim go he

56:23

just goes full Leroy Jenkins into shouts

56:25

attack and runs in to try and

56:27

fight these adult pirates and funly enough.

56:29

It was taken hostage very quickly, but

56:32

so I thought that was very fun.

56:34

So the one thing which I would

56:36

say, mate, which I wrote down, I

56:38

mean I've got a few other things,

56:41

but I think we've pretty much covered

56:43

most of them, I believe, yeah, pretty

56:45

much have done. Unclaims these and the

56:47

pirate code. So George claims the ship.

56:50

Fern comes and there's none of unclaims

56:52

these. Up we claim these. An SM's

56:54

33 who has been notoriously stubborn about,

56:56

this is the code, you know, even

56:58

back in the Tachrenner's lair when Jod

57:01

evokes to write to a jewel, he's

57:03

like, listen, it's the code, I've got

57:05

to do it, sorry kids. Now he's

57:07

like, do you know what, close enough,

57:10

I'm just going to knock Jod out.

57:12

It's fun, it's exciting, it's, I love

57:14

it is very kitty. But that was

57:16

the first moment of the series where

57:18

I thought, that to me, it's not

57:21

quite mind wipe level of we need

57:23

to get out of here, we need

57:25

an ending. But I did kind of

57:27

think, that was a little bit fast

57:30

pace, I don't know, how do we

57:32

get out of it? Yes, unclaims these,

57:34

they've been saying it all season. And

57:36

maybe you could look at it as

57:39

SM33, kind of breaking free of the

57:41

programming and just being like, no, I

57:43

like these kids, I want to help

57:45

them. Yes. It just felt a little

57:47

bit clumsy for me, a little heavy

57:50

handed in terms of how it was,

57:52

here we go, in terms of how

57:54

it was executed, but oh, here we

57:56

go, but finally. Didn't dislike it, but

57:59

when it happened, I was like, that

58:01

was very conveniently handled, I was like,

58:03

that was very conveniently handled. thought or

58:05

you just like no this is fun?

58:07

No I did have a similar thought

58:10

and I'd wondered if they'd tried that

58:12

if two SM-33 before in the show

58:14

I know they've tried it on each

58:16

other and we get that in the

58:19

first episode I think right so that

58:21

that kind of full circle moment is

58:23

quite nice so I'm I'm I think

58:25

it's that they've not tried it on

58:28

their SM-33 before and Fern thinks oh

58:30

let's try this and although it does

58:32

admittedly You're right, it does seem a

58:34

bit convenient. Deep down SM33 has a

58:36

bias and wants to follow that, but

58:39

the unclaims these checks out. Something like

58:41

that. All in all though, mate, yes,

58:43

I think you're banged on the money.

58:45

It's a little bit convenient, but I

58:48

liked it. It's not something that bothered

58:50

me too much. If I'm... But I

58:52

don't understand why it would. Does it

58:54

knock a little bit off the... Yeah,

58:56

maybe there was a better way to

58:59

do it. Maybe. Maybe. But it's at

59:01

the same time to counteract my own

59:03

point. It's in tone feeling with the

59:05

rest of the show. It is a

59:08

payoff. What would these kids specifically do?

59:10

Their kids, they'll be like, unclaims these.

59:12

That's what they've been doing. That's just

59:14

what they'd try in their kind of

59:16

moment of need. They'd be like, well,

59:19

let's go back to the world when

59:21

hopefully it works. And to be fair,

59:23

even they're like, wow, that actually worked.

59:25

So, they do take a moment to

59:28

stop and be like, huh. didn't think

59:30

that would work but it did so

59:32

they they they referenced their own self

59:34

in the show but yeah other than

59:37

that may not really an awful lot

59:39

else to say that's not a bad

59:41

thing I think we've covered it I

59:43

loved angry jard screaming at the kids

59:45

I loved the point inside from the

59:48

parents I loved the kids at the

59:50

beginning like the BFFs playing slack ball

59:52

I guess together I really liked that

59:54

so good so come on let's get

59:57

it where is it where is it

59:59

where is it oh oh yeah we

1:00:01

love it yeah oh yeah so yeah

1:00:03

it's pretty much pretty much it I

1:00:05

think we've we've gone through it all

1:00:08

Neil shouting where pirate meat was was

1:00:10

it was a highlight of the franchise

1:00:12

from love it love it and love

1:00:14

it and also the kids last one

1:00:17

for me because I've got my notes

1:00:19

all over the place but I would

1:00:21

be remiss to not mention this though

1:00:23

because I think it's that it went

1:00:26

element and wonder when they get through

1:00:28

the I can't remember what Brutus calls

1:00:30

it now but like the toxic maelstrom

1:00:32

I think he calls it the gas

1:00:34

outside the nebula outside of the bit

1:00:37

like Tanelaw and Jedi Survivor. When they

1:00:39

get through that and they actually stop

1:00:41

and for the first time ever they

1:00:43

see their planet from an outsider's perspective

1:00:46

and they're like well this is like

1:00:48

this is where we live and there

1:00:50

is that sense of marvel that sense

1:00:52

of awe for these kids who have

1:00:54

been all these weird horrible places and

1:00:57

when they come home they see their

1:00:59

own home for the first time and

1:01:01

they're like they're struck by it. So

1:01:03

I thought that was a very very

1:01:06

very cool sequence as well leading into

1:01:08

that finale but I think though. I'm

1:01:10

good now. I think I've done my

1:01:12

notes mate. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick,

1:01:15

tick. Tack, captain. There we go. Yeah,

1:01:17

Tack, what's his name? Tack, Renard. Rennard,

1:01:19

he's free, is he? Yeah. Oh, you

1:01:21

might listen. I wouldn't, it's gonna happen.

1:01:23

It is gonna happen, yeah? Give me

1:01:26

more French. Give me more French resistance.

1:01:28

We didn't talk about that episode, did

1:01:30

we? That was you and Mr Dunn

1:01:32

covered that one, didn't you? Yeah, the

1:01:35

Troika's and the Hatan, I think they

1:01:37

were, which, fair enough. I met a

1:01:39

decent episode, but they had French accents,

1:01:41

which is great, even though the kid,

1:01:43

I don't think she is French. The

1:01:46

actor was, he's in Amily, he's wonderful

1:01:48

and Latin. But, I don't believe she's

1:01:50

French, because she's French, because she was

1:01:52

in venom. let the party beginner, or

1:01:55

whether it's called a last dance. Yeah,

1:01:57

you can tell a suun French, mate.

1:01:59

It's like me doing any accent, it's

1:02:01

just a little bit exaggerated, a bit

1:02:04

there on edge, but listen, I like,

1:02:06

co-riles, mate, co-mores. Toilex, or toilex, they're

1:02:08

all French, they're like brilliant, George and

1:02:10

Dave, love a French, twilike. I love

1:02:12

it. Consistently good though, across the board,

1:02:15

like you're saying, mate, so far, every

1:02:17

episode has been at least good. Some

1:02:19

have been very, very good. And they've

1:02:21

got, I hate being that guy, mate,

1:02:24

as we wrap it up. They've got

1:02:26

to nail that ending, because can you

1:02:28

imagine if next week's episode is like

1:02:30

a five out of ten for us?

1:02:32

I know. It would feel like the

1:02:35

balloons being deflated a bit. It would.

1:02:37

What a day. That's wrong with it.

1:02:39

I mean I'm like that today already.

1:02:41

I'm already like oh what a day

1:02:44

but no next week I'm going to

1:02:46

be like oh what a day. I'll

1:02:48

emotionally just be gutted I think because

1:02:50

this has been so enjoyable but I'm

1:02:52

optimistic mate I'm hopeful I think the

1:02:55

episodes have been brilliant throughout they've been

1:02:57

great throughout so I have reason to

1:02:59

believe they're going to land it me

1:03:01

I'm very excited the prospect of what

1:03:04

could happen and it's it's this might

1:03:06

not even be a good thing but

1:03:08

who could turn up like the whole

1:03:10

thing is intriguing the whole thing is

1:03:13

exciting mate give it to me next

1:03:15

for another week give it's flippin heck

1:03:17

mate I can't wait I'm even half

1:03:19

tempted to take half day off work

1:03:21

so I can just so I can

1:03:24

watch it and enjoy it right right

1:03:26

just to say it again like we

1:03:28

did last week on our last main

1:03:30

show that we've got handle coming up

1:03:33

but after that we've got a long

1:03:35

wait really to any any substantial Star

1:03:37

Wars of all due respect. The next

1:03:39

thing will be Mando and Grogu in

1:03:41

2026 unless they drop a bombshell with

1:03:44

a new animated series at the end

1:03:46

of the year. But we've got this

1:03:48

and or then Mando in best part

1:03:50

of a year and a half time

1:03:53

and then a soaker at some point

1:03:55

season two. So I'm just going to

1:03:57

enjoy this for what it is because

1:03:59

it's going to be very different tonally

1:04:02

to Ando. This is going to be

1:04:04

like the most Star Wars he feeling

1:04:06

thing we're going to get. for about

1:04:08

a year and a half till Mando,

1:04:10

I imagine, certainly live action. So let's

1:04:13

just absorb all that filth and just,

1:04:15

you know, raise our hands to the

1:04:17

force that we... get a really solid

1:04:19

episode next week. So yeah, get your

1:04:22

predictions in guys. What's going to happen?

1:04:24

It's going to be a fun one.

1:04:26

But before we go, mate, I need

1:04:28

to know. I need to know, we

1:04:30

need to know our ratings, mate. I

1:04:33

need to know we've got frog dogs

1:04:35

ready. I've got Neil's lined up and

1:04:37

ready. I believe you went first last

1:04:39

week as the returning hero, mate. So

1:04:42

I'll keep mine short and sweet and

1:04:44

sweet for this episode. I'm going to

1:04:46

be fairly consistent again and I'm going

1:04:48

to give this 8 out of 10,

1:04:51

8 out of 10, which is consistent

1:04:53

with most of the episodes. I think

1:04:55

the lowest I've given is about a

1:04:57

7 and a half and the highest

1:04:59

was 8.2 I think last week or

1:05:02

8.3. So I'm going to go 8

1:05:04

for this episode mate. What are you

1:05:06

going to do? I'll leash to Frog

1:05:08

Dogs. Give me a Frog Dog right

1:05:11

now, in fact. Yeah, no brainer mate.

1:05:13

No brainer. It was, it was, it

1:05:15

was, it was, it's consistent. This is,

1:05:17

it feels like the most consistent, emotionally

1:05:19

consistent Star Wars show that we've, we've,

1:05:22

we've had. Yeah. I've, I've enjoyed it,

1:05:24

but I think a lot of that

1:05:26

will depend on how they stick the

1:05:28

landing and hindsight. It's always how it

1:05:31

is. I'm buzzing, I'm gonna be like.

1:05:33

I'm not going to watch it at

1:05:35

2am British time. You are not going

1:05:37

to do that. I want to be,

1:05:39

I want to be there, I want

1:05:42

to be present, not tired, just want

1:05:44

to be, you know, on it. I

1:05:46

feel like that. Are you ready to

1:05:48

let it go though, mate? Are you

1:05:51

ready to let the gang and Neil

1:05:53

go? I don't think I am, mate.

1:05:55

It's been so enjoyable and I don't

1:05:57

believe it. It doesn't feel like these

1:06:00

kiddos will be like not returning to

1:06:02

Star Wars anytime soon. you know that's

1:06:04

that's kind of the sobering reality of

1:06:06

of this is that the it's like

1:06:08

the stranger things kids you know they've

1:06:11

grown up so quickly and Millie Brown

1:06:13

like married now or something it's it's

1:06:15

a bizarre it's a really bizarre it's

1:06:17

that yes that's right it's it's a

1:06:20

bizarre feeling me it's a bizarre feeling

1:06:22

and that's a show that I think

1:06:24

they kind of and look there was

1:06:26

real-world stuff but that's a show that

1:06:28

I think they've kind of let the

1:06:31

hyping excitement die because of the amount

1:06:33

of time that's gone between season one

1:06:35

and now the final season which is

1:06:37

meant to be coming out at some

1:06:40

point this year that show will be

1:06:42

huge that series will be huge but

1:06:44

but how long right you need to

1:06:46

keep the momentum going and I do

1:06:49

fear sometimes the mandover stuff like ladship

1:06:51

you're mucking around a little bit now

1:06:53

like there needs to be more concise

1:06:55

action anyway anyway I digress love this

1:06:57

episode mate can't wait for next week

1:07:00

buzzing loved it right Give it to

1:07:02

us. 8 out of 10 across the

1:07:04

board from Master Blire Walker and Jab

1:07:06

at the HUD. Next week we're going

1:07:09

to be dropping 10 out of 10

1:07:11

for that finale we hope. Listen mate

1:07:13

I'll take another 8 out of 10

1:07:15

episode just for that consistency across the

1:07:17

board but yeah we've already asked a

1:07:20

few times what do you guys think

1:07:22

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1:07:24

and as an episode in general of

1:07:26

skeleton crew what did you think and

1:07:29

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1:07:31

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1:07:33

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1:07:35

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1:07:38

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1:07:40

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1:07:42

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