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Baby you change your mind,

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life too many times Over

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and over again, over and

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over again Baby

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you change your mind, life

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too many times Over and

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over again, over and over

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again Hello

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and welcome to Still Buffering, a cross-generational guide

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to the culture that made us. I'm Sydney

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McElroy. And I'm Taylor Smirl. Well,

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Tay, how's

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your FYP looking these days? It's

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a lot of

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doom predictions of what's to come. A

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little astrology in there with the end of

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whatever Pluto is doing, leaving us

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alone, right? The 17th, right? Getting

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out of our faces for a while

1:07

is cardinal signs. Listen,

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I think I can say this, I think this

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is a safe space for me to say this

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because I have professed on this show my

1:17

love for engaging with astrology. Whether

1:20

or not I'm saying like, I don't know that

1:22

I'm like a true believer, but like I do like

1:24

to engage with it. I do think it has insightful

1:26

things for me to understand about myself at times. And

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if nothing else, it's kind of fun. It's

1:31

fun. Yeah, so

1:33

I'm never going to throw shade at astrology. But I am

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going to say this. I

1:37

feel like I'd been hearing

1:39

about this Pluto situation that

1:42

was coming. Like it was ending in October.

1:45

And then I feel like something happened then. But

1:47

then I was getting new ones and I thought

1:49

like it's over. And then I was getting these

1:51

new ones that were like, actually, it's November. And

1:53

it was feeling a little like, you know, when

1:55

a doomsday cult predicts the end of the world

1:58

and they're like, oh, we read it wrong. It

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was actually next year. No,

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but so that's it. There was always a

2:05

set date. It just retrograded You know how

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planets because of the different rotational sometimes

2:10

they go backwards through sectors of space

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They're not actually physically going backwards, but

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as I've received them there

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was retrograde So it like was moving out of

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Capricorn and then it retrograded back into

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it and then it moved back out

2:23

now it's going for good It won't

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be back in Capricorn in our lifetime

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See I feel like because I was

2:29

getting like the the the FYP pools of

2:32

people being like oh You

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know Pluto and Capricorn affects all the cardinal signs

2:36

all the cardinal signs are having a hard time

2:39

And I feel like it's only recently that I'm

2:41

getting the ones that are like okay, but especially

2:43

you Capricorn Wow You've had the

2:45

crap beaten out of you since 1984 Like

2:50

like that's like you just waited you

2:52

waited until it was almost done to be

2:54

like actually it was really bad for you,

2:56

huh? Yeah, yeah was

3:00

I don't know if the stars are to blame, but it was bad I

3:02

do feel like when they were like this is your final

3:04

battle. It's like well. Yeah, you weren't kidding, huh? I think

3:07

we lost Yeah, so

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we're slightly I don't want to say

3:11

we're recovering because it's important to be abreast of what's going

3:13

on in the world But uh there's a

3:15

you know sometimes I use my FYP for

3:18

mindless Like just a

3:20

break from my brain and when it's

3:23

because my brains always screaming Everything's gonna go bad,

3:25

and then when my FYP is everything's gonna go

3:27

bad. It's like okay, but just give me one

3:29

like Person dancing to

3:31

cut that up, and I mean

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here's the thing I I do

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not I do

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not believe in in hopelessness as

3:40

like I'm not okay I'm

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not saying you can't experience it feel how

3:45

you feel I'm not gonna police anybody's emotions,

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but I personally Don't see

3:49

a lot of value and hopelessness Definitely

3:53

for my own mental health, and I

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believe for most of us And so I

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think engaging with a lot of like hopelessness

3:59

doesn't really helped me.

4:01

Engaging, yeah, I mean engaging

4:04

with anger, engaging with frustration, engaging with

4:06

reality, but I'm okay with all that.

4:08

I will engage with content that is

4:10

being honest about where we are, but

4:12

I'm not really interested in engaging with

4:14

like, let's all, with

4:16

just like, blind panic,

4:18

I guess. You know, it doesn't, there's

4:21

nothing I can do with that. I just absorb that

4:23

energy and then it's there and then I've got nowhere

4:25

to put it and I need to

4:27

have action to take. Yeah.

4:30

I've enjoyed, I do enjoy

4:32

the energy of the TikTok

4:35

trend, which is the mountain goat song.

4:38

Oh, the, you're coming down with me hand

4:41

in a lovable hand. No children. Yes. That,

4:43

that I enjoy. That's,

4:47

it's from- You mean the new American anthem.

4:49

Yes. And

4:52

I like, I mean, I'm glad that a lot of

4:54

white women are being honest and saying like, hey, fellow

4:56

white women. Yeah. So

4:58

I do enjoy that. I enjoy that

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soup for our family has come back. Love

5:04

that clip. Soup for

5:06

my family. Soup for my family. I had

5:10

forgotten about soup for my family. It's soup, it's soup

5:12

for my family. I forgot about soup for my family.

5:14

I know. So soup for

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my family is back. I like, I like the

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TikToks that are just somebody, like you don't even

5:21

see a face. It's just somebody opening a cabinet

5:24

and like pushing some cans aside. And then there's

5:26

a can of like Progresso and they're just like

5:28

thumbs up. You

5:30

transported somebody to this timeline and just

5:33

like, what's this? Like, what does that

5:35

mean? This is an ad for Progresso?

5:37

You get it. It's a good soup.

5:40

You get it. You

5:43

get it. Soup for my family.

5:45

Yeah. No, I've, I've

5:47

enjoyed that. I was really, but no,

5:50

I'm not going to say that on a podcast. It

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was interesting to watch the,

5:57

that that one. little

6:00

fascist saying, your body my

6:02

choice, who

6:05

then got doxxed. And

6:07

then for a while, TikTok, yeah,

6:10

that's so. Ah,

6:12

so it's so unfortunate, I think they burned

6:14

his house down, that's very bad. We shouldn't

6:16

burn their house down. They didn't though, I

6:18

don't think they did. So I don't think

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that, I think TikTok let me think it

6:23

happened. Oh, it didn't happen,

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oh that's very good, that didn't happen.

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Yeah, no, I don't wish that. I

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think it's, yeah. But

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the doxxing that's so. So

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fortunate. Yeah, that's the thing that I'm

6:39

acknowledging happened. I

6:41

just don't like, nevermind.

6:45

I don't know. Well, I was

6:47

gonna say, why would you say something so heinous,

6:49

so loudly, with

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like not even like a monochrome of like, of

6:56

consideration to people

6:58

can find you. But these people, I mean, I

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don't, to start with that being the

7:02

questioning their logic and their reasoning

7:04

skills, that's, we're off the. Yeah,

7:07

I mean, there aren't any. Yeah,

7:11

we left the solid ground a long

7:13

time ago. So I don't know. I

7:15

just think that the real hero in that story

7:17

is, and we

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should never shame people for things they

7:23

can't control, but whatever childhood,

7:26

like his mother's friend

7:29

who knew him as a child felt the need

7:31

to leak to the world that he had a

7:33

serious problem growing up with pooping his pants. What's

7:37

wrong with that? That's all right. It's

7:39

totally okay. No one should feel bad for

7:41

just constantly all the time, every day at

7:43

school, having to be picked up over and

7:45

over again, because you poop your pants. It's

7:48

no, no, not a big, don't feel bad

7:50

about that, buddy. But you know, you know,

7:52

that just, I think it

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reinforces though, why would you not empathize

7:56

with those of us who would like

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to have control? control over our own

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bodies. Cause clearly at some point you did

8:03

not have control over your own body and

8:05

that was hard for you. Right?

8:08

Like you, we want,

8:11

you know, healthcare. You

8:13

want to not have poop in your pants. There's

8:17

common ground. Yeah. I mean,

8:19

and we don't have to talk about who

8:21

maybe has worse in terms of consequences in

8:23

this situation. Sure. But, um,

8:26

we could meet on that common

8:29

understanding. Nope. No.

8:32

That's, we're

8:34

past that. No, no. I don't know.

8:37

We're past that. Uh, my

8:39

TikTok was pretty witchy to start with.

8:41

It's gotten witchy-y. Yeah. Yeah.

8:44

The, the, the, the witches, I like, I like all of the, um, both

8:47

the, it's always just

8:49

like some incredibly sweet faced woman telling

8:51

me about plants I could grow, but

8:53

to be very, very careful because they're dangerous. And

8:56

I'm like, oh, right. Right.

8:59

Right. Which I mean, man, that's a rough one for

9:02

me. I have been asked, I mean,

9:04

back to when they first overturned

9:06

Roe, I've been asked by many

9:08

people, like, well, meaning should I grow these things

9:10

in my own garden, you know,

9:13

for the help of others. And

9:17

it's hard because like, as long as there

9:19

is a safe legal way to do things,

9:21

I think we should try to pursue that

9:24

for your own safety. Right.

9:27

There is no controlled dosage of something you grew

9:29

in your garden. That's hard for, you know, it

9:31

makes me nervous. Well, you as

9:33

I, and I'm especially as a doctor, I,

9:35

I'm sure you can't, you can't endorse that.

9:37

I do think the logic of it

9:40

takes a while to grow a plant,

9:44

maybe. Which

9:47

I mean, having a store of that stuff

9:49

now is not like a bad idea. I,

9:52

well, and I will say this, I do

9:54

think if you are a science minded person

9:56

like myself, you may

9:58

consider that. it,

12:00

purify it, get the... Right. We can

12:03

just make the same chemical in a

12:05

lab, synthetically. But that is

12:07

where that came from. That is... And it

12:10

will, if you don't... I mean, because it does

12:12

impact your heart function, if you

12:14

take the wrong dose, you

12:17

can get very sick. And if

12:19

you take enough, it could kill you. But

12:22

I saw that and I was

12:24

like, well, Foxglove isn't traditionally... When

12:26

we talk about in the old

12:28

days, herbal, abortifacients,

12:31

medicines that would induce abortion and things like that.

12:33

Yeah. I kept seeing that word written and I

12:35

didn't know how to pronounce it. I'm glad you said

12:37

it. There you go. Foxglove was

12:39

not traditionally one listed because it would

12:42

hurt you. And

12:45

then it clicked what I was looking at. I was like, oh,

12:48

this isn't... Oh,

12:51

oh, you're

12:53

just recommending. Oh. Yeah.

12:55

We're getting prepared across the board, I guess,

12:57

which... Oh. Well, it hurts to be

12:59

prepared. I mean, that's like, again, it was a little old

13:02

lady, pleasant a lady doing like a

13:04

Dollar Tree haul and she was

13:06

just grabbing like 30 boxes

13:08

of, of Visine. I was

13:10

like, you know, and I'm like,

13:13

what is it? She got real dry eyes. And then

13:15

I read the comments. Oh, okay.

13:17

I didn't know that. Apparently

13:20

you could seriously

13:23

endanger somebody's existence. I'm talking like

13:25

I'm on TikTok. We're not right now. You could

13:27

kill somebody with that. That's true. Oh, man,

13:32

that's probably seeped into our language, huh?

13:34

Yeah. I was thinking about that as

13:36

I was referring to the

13:39

abortifacient. Abortifacient. Abortifacient.

13:43

Yeah, I could say that. That's fine.

13:45

Oh, no. Yeah. Just got TikTok somehow

13:48

soothed us into doublespeak. It

13:51

really did. Yikes. I hadn't thought about

13:53

that. Like we... That's not good. Yeah.

13:56

I mean, it's... Okay. It's

13:58

a double-edged sword, right? Because like... And

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there's a long problem in fantasy where we take

32:02

these creatures that are hundreds of years old and

32:05

we pair them with 19

32:08

year old girls Any I want

32:10

to get back to sailing room, but does any property properly

32:13

lampshade that like have a beat

32:15

where the 200

32:18

year old vampire is being you know, is the the

32:20

flirting with the 19 year old and then he's like,

32:22

oh no But this not not actually though. No, you're

32:24

a child to me. You're a baby. You're infinite.

32:26

You're a beer your fetus to me

32:29

Absolutely not. No, thank you. I Don't

32:32

think I mean none that I am familiar

32:34

with I don't I

32:37

in the a guitar books it

32:39

is acknowledged I mean because the fay

32:41

are all like hundreds of years old right and

32:43

then our main character is like

32:46

21 or something So

32:49

it's like acknowledged but not in any way

32:51

where it's like and this is not

32:53

great To know I don't

32:55

even need it as like a moral lesson because honestly, I

32:57

don't care I just think it's funny, but I feel like

32:59

it would be a good moment. Just cuz I don't

33:01

know like I can't speak to somebody that's like

33:08

25 year old will try to speak to me and I'm just

33:10

like no no I Know

33:15

I know I know what you mean it that

33:17

there is definitely there is something

33:19

that okay That is the most unrealistic

33:21

part of it, right? Okay. It's a

33:25

300 year old vampire sure, maybe yeah, whatever. I

33:27

don't know. Maybe there are whatever that doesn't bother

33:29

me But the idea that somebody who's 300 years

33:31

old would look at somebody was 19 human

33:34

years old and be like we talked the

33:36

same language No, yeah, well that's I guess

33:38

maybe it's you know in this case It's

33:40

it's always a hot old vampire with like

33:42

a 19 year old woman Which

33:44

is just an exaggeration of a very real the

33:46

Leonid Decaprio can on drop

33:48

like sure yeah, I Get

33:52

older they stay the same age like you're

33:55

300. It's so far past creepy Is

44:00

that before they all die with? Barrel

44:05

is it that far back? I

44:08

know what you're talking about how that's just

44:10

saving just saving the world and eating cheesecake.

44:12

Yeah, I Forget

44:16

when that happened There's

44:19

always I mean, I feel like every season ends

44:21

with that kind of and it

44:23

doesn't matter how many times they do it

44:25

It's always emotionally devastating. Yeah, but

44:27

Mars is always the last one to go down You

44:30

know You'd think it would go in order but

44:32

it always that the show always makes the distinction

44:34

of like the one that stands the longest And

44:37

hurts whose I get the most to see fall is

44:39

Mars. Yeah Hi,

44:42

yeah, it was fun to watch it again

44:44

I've missed it's been a really long time

44:46

and I had started to get Charlie into

44:48

it a few years back But

44:51

I think she was just a little too little to win

44:53

I think I also was trying to show her a sub

44:55

when she had just learned how to read So

44:57

yeah, I need to dive back in with her

44:59

with a I mean it a

45:02

sub now cuz I mean obviously she could read it

45:04

now Or a dub that both of them could watch

45:06

because Cooper can read but I don't know if she

45:08

could read fast enough to keep Up with a sub.

45:10

Well, this this this dub that's been they've redubbed the

45:12

almost though. I think the whole thing is redubbed now And

45:16

it's all the same cast and it's much more Much

45:20

more accurate and you know, no

45:23

cousins anymore No cousins,

45:25

no gig cousins, but I don't

45:27

know I just know for however

45:29

dark the world feels I think that you

45:31

know Sailor Moon the

45:33

the the center idea of it and

45:36

this movie kind of expresses it all in one

45:38

stroke that like love is

45:40

is the

45:43

most powerful force and you

45:45

fight for the things you love and Sometimes

45:48

fighting isn't beating the crap out

45:51

of your enemy Sometimes fighting is trying to

45:53

understand your enemy or you know trying

45:55

to I Don't

45:57

know like called

48:00

Dr. Odyssey. It's

48:02

a new show, it's on ABC, but

48:04

it's also on Hulu. Because

48:07

I guess they're the same, I don't know. I've lost

48:09

track of all the monopolies. But it's

48:12

on Hulu. It's got Pacey on

48:14

it, but the important thing is that it's- He will

48:16

always be Pacey to you. Yes he will. It

48:20

is, I mean it's just a doctor on

48:22

a cruise ship. It's the wildest, I just need you

48:25

to, I just need you to, all you have to

48:27

do is watch the first episode. You can

48:29

watch more if you don't want to. If you love it you can, but

48:31

as long as you'll just watch the first one just to get the vibe.

48:36

Only because it's got an ongoing plot, and so if

48:38

you jumped in, like the Halloween episode was great, but

48:40

if you jumped in on the Halloween episode I don't

48:42

think you would, like you wouldn't

48:44

know what's going on with the characters. Well,

48:47

alright, I'll check it out. It's

48:50

audacious, this TV. Audacious?

48:52

Audacious. Audacious television. It's,

48:54

well, you know, Ryan Murphy helped make

48:57

it. Oh, well, yeah. So

48:59

there you go. It's got that Ryan Murphy. He

49:01

does do audacious television. Yeah, yeah,

49:03

it has that. Is

49:05

this what we got instead of a new season of American Horror

49:08

Story, I guess? Maybe,

49:10

maybe that's why, I don't know.

49:12

I got that grotesquerie show, but I have not

49:14

the same vibe. Well, alright, well I'm excited, I'll

49:16

watch it. Alright. Well,

49:19

thank you Tay, thank you listeners. You

49:23

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49:38

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49:40

Still Buffering. And I am too. Did

49:45

make me want to go back and listen to

49:47

the Sailor Moon soundtrack that we used to or

49:49

songs or whatever that was. I

49:51

was going to say, because this has

49:53

Moon Revenge, the Japanese song, which is

49:56

amazing and epic, but I can't. There

49:58

was a dub version of that. I feel

50:00

like they put, I don't know, some

50:02

of those English songs were pretty epic too.

50:05

Yeah, they were. I know. Let's go

50:07

turn on Rainy Day Man. Yeah. I

50:10

was thinking Power of Love. She's

50:12

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