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generational guide to the culture that made us. I'm Sydney

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McRoy. And I'm Taylor Spurl. Hey,

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have you ever noticed that sometimes TikTok decides

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to start showing you a movie? Yes.

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Yeah. You know what I mean? Usually not in

0:47

order, but yes. Just like you

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start getting clips of the same movie and you

0:51

don't know why that movie. I

0:54

don't. Sometimes it's

0:56

like, OK, recently gone with the

0:58

wind. Oh, interesting.

1:00

happened to me and like I

1:02

like Gone With The Wind and so

1:05

I get, I don't know how TikTok knew I liked

1:07

Gone With The Wind. I don't think I've ever indicated that.

1:09

I don't even know if I've ever said that publicly. I

1:11

really like the book better. I

1:14

really like the sequel Scarlet. But anyway,

1:16

I don't know why TikTok decided Gone With

1:18

The Wind, but that sort of made sense.

1:21

But then other times it doesn't like,

1:24

TikTok keeps trying to show me the help again.

1:27

I, TikTok went through that face on my

1:29

phone for a while. Yeah. And I

1:32

don't know why it, like I don't want to watch the

1:34

help on TikTok. I,

1:36

I got all of, I think all of the Devil Wears

1:38

Prada because I kept getting clips of it. Yeah. And I

1:40

kept thinking, I'm just going to watch the movie. I love

1:42

that movie. I'm just going to watch it. But I saw

1:45

enough of it on TikTok that I was like, no, no,

1:47

no, I feel like my need was, was sated. Yeah.

1:50

The Devil Wears Prada happened. Um,

1:53

Aaron Brockovich. Oh,

1:55

yeah. Yeah. That's one that TikTok

1:57

tries to show me. The

2:00

Temple Grandin movie with Claire

2:03

Danes. The what?

2:06

The Temple Grandin movie about Temple

2:08

Grandin. I don't know who that is. It's

2:11

a movie she plays. So

2:13

she is autistic and revolutionized

2:16

the way like cattle hurting

2:18

things and was a big

2:20

outspoken advocate for the autistic

2:22

community. Anyway, Claire Danes plays

2:24

her in a movie. I've never seen the movie, except I've

2:26

seen a bunch of it on TikTok. Well, as you started

2:28

to explain, I was like, oh yeah, I've seen those clips

2:30

on TikTok. I also have not seen the movie. Yeah.

2:34

But I don't know why the movies,

2:36

like the movies that they or a

2:38

Mona Lisa smile. Julia

2:42

Roberts is paying somebody

2:45

to algorithm her career.

2:48

I don't know what's happening. I'm just getting

2:50

these I'm getting the and I'm like why

2:52

is why is this the movie like I

2:54

don't want to I've seen the movie the

2:56

help I don't need I don't want to

2:58

watch it on tiktok and so I'm I

3:00

scroll past them like no not interested in

3:02

watching this clip It's the same thing right

3:04

now with handmade tail. It keeps trying to

3:06

show me handmade tail. I've never watched the

3:08

show I'm familiar like I know the the

3:10

thing I get it I

3:15

get the whole gist. I know what it's about.

3:17

I don't know. It was one of those things

3:19

where like everybody was watching it and sure it

3:21

definitely seems like something I should watch and would

3:23

enjoy. But I just

3:25

sometimes I'm good. Sometimes

3:28

I'm like I I can't engage

3:30

with that in my entertainment. Yeah,

3:33

I I watched the first

3:35

maybe two seasons pretty religiously.

3:38

And then it got to a point

3:41

where I don't I don't think that

3:43

show is made within city's purposes But

3:45

it just felt too much like you

3:47

want to watch another episode where women

3:49

get horrifically tortured. Do you want to

3:51

see that? I'm like, no, I don't

3:53

actually I I've gotten the point that

3:55

that show is making that women are

3:57

treated horribly in this society Women are

3:59

treated horribly in the real world too.

4:01

I don't I don't know if I

4:03

need a show that just is all

4:05

about that like I I would like

4:07

to get a wrap up when these

4:09

poor women finally are free and maybe

4:11

that like something bad happened to the

4:13

bad men and that one Serena Joy,

4:15

she also deserves the bad ending. But

4:17

let me know when that happens, but

4:19

I'm out. Checked out. Yes, I really,

4:21

I'm the same way. I mean, well,

4:23

and I mean, I have trouble, honestly,

4:25

and I don't know, maybe I'm just

4:27

old now. All

4:29

the like zombie shows that are

4:32

like post apocalyptic. Yeah.

4:34

Just I don't there's a difference between

4:36

a movie where like it ends like

4:38

I watched the drama I watched the

4:41

zombies and then it was over and

4:43

I don't have to think about it

4:45

anymore But like I don't want to

4:48

return weekly to dwell on a post

4:50

-apocalyptic You know terrifying world where I

4:52

could be killed at any moment. I

4:55

don't want to think about that every

4:57

week because Because maybe For some people,

4:59

it feels like that. Yeah, that

5:02

is what some of us are thinking of every

5:04

week, just in general. Right. Yeah,

5:07

I keep up with the last of

5:09

us because that is, I know the

5:11

narrative for that. I know it's limited.

5:13

I mean, I'm assuming they're going to stick to the games. But

5:17

that is a rare exception for

5:19

me in the apocalyptic. Cinema

5:23

world like the all

5:26

of the walking dead

5:28

the the walking dead

5:30

dead city still dead

5:33

still walking. I can't

5:35

Too dead to walking

5:37

Walking to still dead

5:40

Boogaloo, I don't I

5:42

don't I would watch

5:44

too dead to walking

5:47

I mean starring Norman

5:49

Reedus, maybe Yeah,

5:53

I just I can't I I

5:56

mean I I can watch drama

5:58

like I I watched severance, you

6:00

know Even that it's hard sometimes

6:03

like I don't know I could

6:05

watch drama, but man, it's you

6:07

know I think sometimes and I

6:10

get it because ultimately we're just

6:12

trying to make money When you

6:14

know a lot of these TV

6:17

shows just keep getting renewed for

6:19

more and more seasons But

6:22

we forget that the joy of the

6:24

reason that we like stories and books

6:26

and movies and separate from life is

6:28

that they are these. There is an

6:30

end to it. And then there's a

6:32

point to it. And then it reaffirms

6:35

something in our belief system, you know,

6:37

that goes back to the old like

6:39

that the heroes tale, right? There's a

6:41

reason we like being told this same

6:43

story over and over again about how

6:45

a good, a good person, they struggle,

6:48

they face. you know obstacles and they overcome

6:50

it comforts us it makes us feel you

6:52

know i don't know better about the way

6:55

the world works it doesn't matter if it's

6:57

true or not it's just part of our

6:59

history going back to the beginning of man

7:01

We forget that when this when the story

7:03

is just well But what we could renew

7:06

for another season and make some more money

7:08

And that means we've got to take the

7:10

person the hero that's retired and have their

7:12

happy ending We gotta throw him to the

7:14

wolves again Yeah, it becomes a little bit

7:17

and the fact that it's because we want

7:19

more profit and more money It feels like

7:21

oh our stories have shifted in a horrible

7:23

way to reflect reality Well, I mean, I

7:26

think it's true. I think It's

7:28

why like a show I can

7:31

always return to is Doctor Who

7:33

because Doctor Who, yes, it keeps

7:35

going, but the whole idea

7:37

is that like it changes because the

7:40

doctor can change. The doctor can change

7:42

whenever, you know, you regenerates, you get

7:44

a different actor and a different actor

7:46

playing the doctor. We also accept that

7:48

the doctor is different now. Well, he's

7:50

still the doctor, but they're different. They're

7:53

not the same. And so we have

7:55

a whole new like character with new

7:57

ideas and feelings and reactions to explore

7:59

and a new take on the world

8:01

and new adventures. And we're

8:03

not dragging this sort of like

8:05

beleaguered, long suffering, you know, and it's

8:08

like, you know, like, and it's

8:10

also like eternally hopeful, eternally like humanistic,

8:12

eternally that humans are still worth it.

8:15

No matter how much we suck,

8:17

we're still worth it at the end

8:19

of the day. That's always the

8:21

doctor. So I can keep

8:23

watching that show. I get that. Well,

8:25

I think that the Star Wars universe

8:27

kind of does the same thing where,

8:29

yes, there are always like evil rises

8:31

and then a new good has to

8:33

rise to defeat it. But

8:35

it's, you know, it's cyclical, but

8:38

it does advance, you know, every time

8:40

a dark power rises, a power of

8:42

good will rise to face it. Yes.

8:46

And that and like that's not. I

8:48

mean, that's not naive. That's

8:51

not, you know, that's not a version

8:53

of history and human events that is

8:55

false. Right. I know that

8:57

can be hard to see depending on, like,

9:00

if you're in a hill or a valley

9:02

at this moment in time. Right. But

9:04

that is the truth. I

9:07

never know. We talked about this on

9:10

Sawbones recently. I never know if, like,

9:13

if you look at something that's happening

9:15

now and you can find a corollary

9:17

in, like, past events, like, oh, we've

9:19

been here before. This is all. All

9:21

this ground has been trodden. All these

9:23

conspiracy theories have been recycled. All

9:25

of this is the same noise that

9:28

people have been making for centuries. Is

9:31

that hopeful when you learn that?

9:34

Or does it make you feel despairing?

9:36

Like, I don't know. For me, it's

9:38

hope. Like, we

9:40

beat this before, but I

9:42

don't know if it makes you feel despair to think like,

9:44

but it just came back. Well,

9:47

I mean, I think that's just it's

9:49

not about hope or despair. It's just

9:51

about reality Evil evil people selfish people

9:53

greedy people I don't know I don't

9:55

like the word evil to describe bad

9:57

people because it has this sense of

9:59

like an ultimate thing you can't defeat

10:01

Yeah, I don't I don't know if

10:03

I use that I like using that

10:05

word but bad people will always come

10:07

up and and try to do bad

10:09

things and History is important because then

10:11

you see hey other people have stood

10:13

up against this before And

10:15

here's how they did it, step by step.

10:17

So I can do that too. I can

10:20

be those people in this generation. And that's

10:22

probably why they don't want us to have

10:24

history books anymore. It's

10:26

like the, it's like the Mr. Rogers thing

10:28

of look for the helpers. Yeah. Yeah. I

10:31

think that's true. Hey,

10:33

uh, I am excited for, um,

10:36

TikTok to be covering nothing but

10:38

the conclave soon. That's what I'm

10:40

hoping is nothing but 24 seven

10:42

conclave coverage. I

10:45

thought you were talking, it took me a second, because

10:47

I just started watching that movie last night. I fell

10:49

asleep, not because it was boring, but because I started

10:51

it very late at night, and I don't think Conclave

10:53

is a movie that you start at night. We

10:56

have not, that's what we are trying to find a block

10:58

of time where we can watch it, because I do want

11:00

to watch Conclave. I have

11:02

not yet. I'm gonna, a daytime movie for

11:05

sure. It's a couple of cups of coffee

11:07

and then watch it. Yes. Yeah, well, it's,

11:10

I need to watch that first, so I understand

11:12

what's about to happen. I'll be happy

11:14

if tiktok is anything, but that one girl who

11:16

won't wash her face is what I keep getting

11:18

I don't know if you've gone down It seems

11:20

like you should be getting those videos as a

11:23

doctor, but why won't she wash her face? She's

11:26

doing the caveman method is

11:28

what she's calling it Which

11:30

is you don't put anything

11:32

you don't even let water

11:34

touch your face and

11:36

it it rebuilds your your skin's

11:39

natural oils and barriers and then

11:41

like right now she's got this

11:43

crust built up on her face

11:46

and her idea is it will

11:48

flake off and underneath will be

11:50

perfect new skin and a lot

11:53

of doctors and dermatologists have come

11:55

on TikTok again uh no that

11:57

is uh either some sort of

11:59

dermatitis or a fungal infection and

12:02

it it will not It will

12:04

not go away naturally. But

12:07

then the other, there is also

12:09

a rising voice, a

12:11

conclusion that it's all, it's all rage

12:14

bait and she's just putting on some

12:16

sort of complicated makeup to look like

12:18

that. I don't know. I don't know,

12:20

but I just want to stop seeing

12:22

her flaky face on my, on my

12:24

TikTok. I have not found that, although

12:26

I feel like now that we have

12:28

spoken of it, my phone is near

12:30

me and so. It

12:33

will hear me. I almost sent it to

12:35

you because it's like, I think that this

12:37

is something that sawbones could be interested in.

12:39

Well, I could because, okay. So this would

12:41

be my, and I haven't seen it. So

12:43

I don't know about the dermatitis or fungal

12:45

infection. Certainly those things could be possible, but

12:47

I'm not, I mean, I haven't looked at

12:49

her face, so I have no idea. I

12:52

will say though that, so yes,

12:54

we naturally shed skin cells, obviously,

12:57

constantly, like we're doing that. But

13:00

it is washing. is

13:03

important to facilitate that.

13:05

That is actually necessary.

13:09

It will not just happen on its own, on any

13:11

part of our body, including our face. And

13:14

there is evidence of what happens

13:16

if you don't, because for a

13:18

variety of reasons, sometimes, and this

13:21

is something we encounter medically, a

13:23

patient cannot, you know, cannot perform

13:25

those functions for themselves on a

13:27

regular basis and so you begin

13:29

to accumulate sort of like piles

13:31

of dead skin and on the

13:34

skin and that because they just

13:36

you know for whatever reason they

13:38

cannot perform those activities of daily

13:40

living and wash themselves and so

13:42

that's not good. You

13:44

don't want to just have that

13:47

on you because the dead skin

13:49

itself is not necessarily dangerous. But

13:52

what can accumulate in all those

13:54

little layers of dead skin could

13:57

be bacteria or fungus or just

13:59

like, you know, the oils and

14:01

debris from the day. And you

14:04

don't really want that on you.

14:06

And so it's not healthy to

14:08

have piles of dead skin just

14:11

laying. You know what I mean? That's not

14:13

that that would not. I don't even

14:15

know. I mean, I am not an

14:17

expert on. quote unquote caveman, whatever she

14:20

is, whatever era of man she is

14:22

talking about there. But I would, I

14:24

think we've been washing ourselves as humans

14:26

for a really long time. Well, I

14:29

mean, I would assume so. It

14:32

also just seems it's really this

14:34

is a growing trend of this

14:36

like, right? It's the caveman. I

14:39

don't face care caveman diet caveman.

14:41

I don't know exercise. Yeah, I've

14:43

heard of the diet thing. We

14:48

advanced as a species because we

14:50

learned more things about how to

14:53

be healthier, live longer, like grow

14:55

things, make things, right? Like everything

14:57

you just described where a bunch

15:00

of doctors have observed this and

15:02

they studied this and they've

15:04

understood what goes on. Yeah, that's

15:07

what we've done. I'm

15:09

not really sure why. Like, you

15:11

know how the best way to be healthy? Go

15:13

back before we learned anything. Like

15:15

that seems wrong. I know. Yeah,

15:17

it seems like a dumb thing

15:19

to do. Yeah, I'm just gonna

15:21

Centuries of collective knowledge. Let's put

15:23

that aside and go back to

15:25

basics go back to the beginning

15:27

It which I mean, I've never

15:29

that's always though the weird argument

15:31

is like when people say well,

15:33

what do you think people did

15:35

before vaccines? What do you think

15:37

people did before antibiotics? Died

15:39

a bunch more. I mean,

15:41

did some people, before we had

15:43

antibiotics, certainly there were people who

15:45

got bacterial infections and their bodies

15:47

fought them off and they lived

15:49

anyway, right? Like some people did,

15:51

for sure. And people will use

15:53

that. I don't need antibiotics for

15:55

my urinary tract infection or my

15:58

ear infection or my sinus infection

16:00

because I believe that humans have

16:02

been fighting these off for centuries.

16:04

So what's the big deal? Okay,

16:06

yeah, some humans did. Others got

16:08

septic and died. I mean, like

16:10

that's the difference is that yeah,

16:12

I mean, but now we have

16:14

antibiotics and we can prevent that.

16:16

So yay. Like tooth problems,

16:19

like one of the number

16:21

one killers before we had

16:23

a understanding of antibiotics. You

16:26

just have an abscess tooth and that's it. You're dead. And

16:29

I mean, and it's like the thing. And

16:31

I understand why when we're talking about like

16:34

vaccine advocacy, this is not like a point

16:36

that you want to bring up in like

16:38

a I don't know if you're testifying before

16:40

some committee in a legislative body or if

16:43

you're talking publicly. This is not like a

16:45

fun conversation. But if you start looking at

16:47

like life expectancy before and after vaccines, the

16:50

difference isn't that like before vaccines,

16:52

people only live to their thirties

16:54

and then after vaccines, everybody lived

16:56

to their eighties. It's

16:59

an average. What

17:01

we're doing is we're averaging out how

17:03

long people lived. The reason the life

17:05

expectancy got higher is because

17:07

so many fewer children died. Which

17:10

is not, I mean, like there's no fun way

17:13

to say that, like, because it's sad

17:15

no matter what era we're talking about. But

17:17

like, that's the difference. We got vaccines and

17:19

so you were much more likely to survive

17:21

past the age of two. I

17:25

just don't. I

17:28

mean, now we say this and

17:30

then you've got what, people, kids

17:32

dying from measles in Texas. That's

17:35

what it is. Yeah, I saw a

17:37

quote from one of the fathers that

17:39

was like and I do it again

17:41

I would not like okay. I'm confused

17:44

so you're pro -life when it comes

17:46

to an unborn clump of cells And

17:48

that woman that might have an abortion

17:50

could be arrested But you as a

17:52

father saying that you would fully let

17:54

your child die again from a preventable

17:56

disease That is right. That is I

17:58

think that's I think that's really it's

18:00

what you're what you're hitting on is

18:02

a kind of like we we hear

18:05

that and we think like that is

18:07

not a logical or rational thought process

18:09

right like you hear that and you're

18:11

like well that's I'm a parent that

18:13

sounds totally irrational now granted I will

18:15

I will give this grace I don't

18:17

know how you ever I don't know

18:19

I don't know how you like cognitively

18:21

process that so that you can wake

18:23

up each day afterwards and so I'm

18:25

just gonna put that out there. I

18:28

don't understand how you function. So maybe you

18:30

do throw up these sort of like fake

18:32

ideas in your head and put together some

18:35

sort of logic structure that makes it worthwhile

18:37

and okay just so you can survive. Of

18:39

course. I don't know. You know what I'm

18:41

saying? I wanna say that. But

18:44

I think the other part of it

18:46

is that we're talking about belief versus

18:48

knowledge. I don't believe

18:50

in vaccines, right? I

18:52

don't believe in them. I

18:55

know they work because the science says

18:58

they do because because they research them

19:00

and we can read those papers where

19:02

they gave vaccines to people and then

19:04

they didn't get measles and then Yeah,

19:07

I mean like I this isn't this

19:09

isn't a faith and so I think

19:11

that's the fundamental problem is that there

19:13

are people who are arguing based on

19:16

their belief that we don't need vaccines

19:18

or that we can drink raw milk

19:20

or that we shouldn't wash our face

19:22

or that you know Whatever

19:25

an alkaline diet is the way

19:27

to go you none of this

19:29

stuff is science. It's your it's

19:31

your belief system It's because you

19:33

believe certain things about history humanity

19:36

the world Existence and that's I

19:38

don't know how to fight back

19:40

against that with facts because we're

19:42

talking two different languages, right? Well,

19:45

and I don't I don't know when

19:47

belief started getting equal footing as facts

19:50

like I don't I feel like they

19:52

used to be a I

19:54

was thinking about this. I got a

19:56

TikTok that was some guy talking about

19:58

the vampires in New Orleans. You gotta

20:01

be careful. Not a of

20:03

people are aware of how many vampires are

20:05

in New Orleans. Really? And then all these

20:07

people were commenting like, no, seriously, it's real.

20:10

And I went down a rabbit hole of all these

20:12

people talking about how dangerous the vampires are in New

20:14

Orleans. Man, you

20:17

know, this used to be fun for me. It

20:19

used to be fun, the paranormal, the spooky stuff.

20:21

And now it just feels me with a sense

20:23

of dread. Not, I'm not afraid of the vampires.

20:25

Are there vampires in the world? I don't know.

20:27

I don't know. But like, people are taking this

20:29

seriously. You're going to

20:31

have people getting, like, assaulted on

20:34

the street because someone decided that

20:36

that, like, pale goth dude was

20:38

a vampire. Like, it's not fun

20:41

anymore. It's tough,

20:43

though, isn't it, Ty? Because, I

20:45

mean, I think that's like the,

20:47

it's the double edge sort of.

20:50

I don't have a problem fundamentally

20:52

with the concept of like belief

20:54

or faith or spirituality or magical

20:56

thinking you know just just sort

20:59

of this this like this perception

21:01

of the world that there there

21:03

might be sort of you know

21:05

supernatural things happening around us that

21:08

we can't always perceive or know

21:10

or understand and that maybe There

21:12

is more meaning or rhythm or

21:14

something to it all. I don't

21:17

have any problem with that. And

21:19

I'm not saying I don't necessarily

21:21

believe that myself. I

21:23

don't know what structure that would fit into.

21:25

But it's it's so hard to make space

21:28

for that. But then. Like

21:30

how do we keep that positive? I

21:33

mean. Beltane is coming

21:35

up. I fully intend

21:37

to engage in, you know, rituals

21:39

to celebrate that. But

21:42

I don't. I don't want to ever

21:44

let that sort of like the things

21:46

that I believe and the way that

21:48

I see the world to like help

21:50

my own human experience and existence be

21:52

meaningful to me, you know, to give

21:55

myself meaning each day. I

21:57

don't ever want that to infringe on

21:59

the safety and health and well -being

22:01

of those around me. And that's where

22:03

that line we just can't seem to

22:06

find, at least in this country. Well,

22:10

it's odd because I don't know how you can't

22:12

like I feel like there's a way that they

22:14

very comfortably and pretty easily coexist It's it's not

22:17

even that hard. So you have to be purposely

22:19

ignorant to ignore it It always makes me think

22:21

of that one of that old parable about the

22:23

man who's like I don't know the setup he's

22:25

there There's been a flood and he's on his

22:27

roof and he's like God will save me Yes,

22:29

and you know boat comes and a helicopter comes

22:31

and all the stuff and the guy ends up

22:33

drowning and God's like I don't know I sent

22:36

him a boat and a helicopter, you know like

22:38

but What more could I do? Is

22:41

it like, yeah, we've discovered vaccines.

22:43

We have smart people that

22:45

have invented all of this

22:48

amazing science and all of

22:50

these ways to know ourselves

22:52

and understand ourselves and heal

22:54

ourselves. Can you not

22:56

see that as like, if you need to

22:58

believe in a big collective existence, is that

23:01

not part of it? Is

23:03

it not an act of God that...

23:05

born that just made all these beautiful

23:07

creations and discoveries. You

23:10

know, that seems really easy. Like,

23:12

yeah, vaccines, sure, it all

23:14

fits in and it's all one big picture.

23:16

Great. Yeah. And I mean,

23:18

and I don't, I would not

23:21

use the word miracle for the

23:23

creation of vaccines. I don't, I

23:25

don't believe it was a miracle

23:27

per se, but I would attach

23:29

the adjective miraculous to what vaccines

23:31

were able to do for humanity,

23:33

especially in regards to children.

23:35

I would use that word. I don't know, again,

23:37

I'm not putting any sort of like spiritual implication

23:40

on it, but I can see it that way.

23:42

And I've said before, if you

23:44

understand the design of the human inner

23:46

ear, when you study that in med

23:48

school and you learn that anatomy and

23:50

how it works and how piles of

23:52

crystals help you determine your position in

23:55

space and the shifting of them tells

23:57

you if you're upright or laying down

23:59

or whatever. That to me is something,

24:02

I mean, it's hard for me

24:04

to grasp. how that evolved. I

24:06

know it did. I know it

24:08

did. I've studied science. But

24:11

if you see that and for a

24:13

moment think, I

24:15

feel like there's something bigger. I feel like

24:17

there's a meaning or a creator or whatever.

24:19

If you feel that, I don't think there's

24:22

anything wrong with you for feeling that. You

24:24

can feel that too and then still understand

24:27

that we evolved that way. You

24:29

can feel both. No,

24:31

I agree. I mean, I you know, I

24:33

think as simple as like looking at I

24:35

don't know like looking at your veins and

24:37

then looking at how a tree grows There's

24:39

always this moment of like it's all connected

24:42

like it's the same But like that doesn't

24:44

mean that I stop believing in science. No,

24:47

exactly But I will be watching

24:49

the conclave. Yeah movie. I will

24:51

be watching for that white smoke.

24:53

I'm so excited Man, it just

24:55

takes me back to Catholic school.

24:57

I cannot wait Everybody's

25:00

gonna be so excited waiting for the conclave to

25:02

happen. I know what one of my co -workers

25:04

asked me So like what's going on with all

25:06

you like I don't I'm not a practicing Catholic.

25:08

I'm not I I don't

25:10

identify as a Catholic, but they know that that was

25:12

how I was raised like so what's going on with

25:14

you all now like is it like Is

25:17

it like draft season like what's going

25:19

on? I'm like nothing like there's not

25:21

a newsletter There isn't but like that

25:23

there's all the political maneuvering I guess

25:25

like it's because I mean it well

25:27

I probably shouldn't say that like that

25:29

probably I don't know I mean it

25:31

is and we can say it's not

25:33

for this but I mean it will

25:36

it will I don't know I Think

25:38

that it matters in a in a

25:40

universal in a worldwide sense if

25:42

the Pope continues to be a more

25:44

progressive figure or not. I do think

25:46

that that has implications for how people

25:48

view the world and how people feel.

25:51

And in regards to, you know, I don't

25:54

know, the rise of fascism in this country,

25:57

having a Pope who continues

25:59

this sort of mission to

26:01

serve those living in poverty

26:03

and to uplift the most

26:05

vulnerable is probably not a

26:07

bad counterbalance. Absolutely not. So.

26:11

I guess I'm rooting for that. I

26:13

have my own draft picks. Do you?

26:15

I guess I've got to get up

26:17

to speed. You haven't

26:19

gotten those TikToks? I've gotten the TikToks with like,

26:21

who are the Cardinals in the running for Pope?

26:24

I don't know. That's what I should be

26:26

getting instead of all the girl not washing

26:29

her face. Yeah, you

26:31

want that instead. I don't want to look

26:33

at the girl not washing her face either,

26:35

but you want to see all the intrigue.

26:38

I've been watching I'm getting speeches

26:40

now that some of these cardinals

26:42

have given like I guess they're

26:44

technically probably homilies they've delivered about

26:47

different things there was one talking

26:49

about like that the sin of

26:51

greed when we underpay workers and

26:53

I was like yeah okay who

26:55

are you I like you I

26:57

just need to see their stats

26:59

you know like a like a

27:02

Pokemon card like just tell me

27:04

what their Hit points are whether

27:06

whether attacks How

27:08

did you feel when the last Pope said

27:10

we could bless gay marriages? How

27:14

did you feel about that? I

27:19

don't have any segue from the

27:21

Catholic Church to Powerpuff Girls. No,

27:23

no, we also got 25 minutes

27:26

in without talking about the Powerpuff

27:28

Girls. We should probably start. Sorry

27:30

about that. There's just too much exciting conclave business

27:33

and I guess face washing. There's a lot. There's

27:35

a lot. The world always so much. Yeah.

27:38

Powerpuff Girls. So

27:40

did you ever see as I

27:42

was as I was reading and

27:45

talking about Powerpuff Girls, Justin showed

27:47

me a trailer for the show

27:49

they almost made on the CW

27:51

of the Powerpuff Girls. Oh, the

27:53

live action. Yes. Yeah. That

27:56

was why it was like a leaked trailer because

27:58

I guess it was never like it's not going

28:00

to be made, right? No, no. I

28:02

think that was one of those projects that just

28:05

the leaked footage, which I don't know if it's

28:07

like sometimes those leaks happen on purpose, right? They

28:09

want to see, they want to kind of get

28:11

a temperature for how people feel about a project.

28:14

And I think that killed it. That's

28:18

too bad. I would have

28:20

liked to, I think the idea of a

28:22

live action Powerpuff Girls is a cool idea.

28:24

But anyway, I digress. I was just curious

28:27

as I was, I was like, I had,

28:29

I never saw this. I had heard they

28:31

were doing something and then I never saw

28:33

anything about it. No, I'd seen that. I

28:35

remember the outrage directed at it. I think

28:37

just because it was sort of it had

28:39

the air of a gritty reboot, which I

28:41

think we were a little at capacity for

28:44

gritty reboots. Yeah, I don't need a gritty

28:46

reboot of any of my childhood shows, really.

28:48

No, no. No,

28:50

but I did. I do remember

28:52

seeing the original when they were

28:54

the cartoon cartoon short when they

28:57

went the powerpuff girls. They were

28:59

the whoop. But girls. Yeah, you

29:01

can't say what they were. I

29:03

know. Yeah. I remember that original

29:05

segment and then being really excited

29:08

that it was going to become

29:10

a real full -fledged cartoon. Well,

29:13

I don't remember like, I

29:16

mean, were there a lot of shows when

29:18

I think about the other shows we watched

29:20

at the time outside of like, I mean,

29:23

I think the obvious counter counter argument to

29:25

anything I've had to say is like. Sailor

29:28

Moon anime in general like the

29:30

magic girls kind of cartoons, but

29:32

when I'm thinking of over here

29:34

in the US like a girl

29:37

based You know Cartoon like that.

29:39

I don't remember watching a lot

29:41

when I was a kid. I

29:43

guess there's rainbow bright Yeah, well,

29:45

it's a thing like rainbow bright

29:48

like I don't know like Winx

29:50

Club think that was a little

29:52

later They were definitely

29:54

like the girl collective shows, but

29:56

usually it was not. It

29:59

definitely wasn't as much like fighting

30:01

and punching and Right.

30:03

The Powerpuff Girls were always, it was kind of a violent

30:05

show, like in a fun way. That was part of the

30:07

fun. But it

30:10

was definitely made like, it's

30:13

definitely of a time and place, the

30:15

Powerpuff Girls, because it's both a bit

30:17

of a wink and a nod to

30:19

the magical girl genre. So

30:21

like there had to be some US

30:23

awareness of that to make that part

30:25

of the joke land but also the

30:27

awareness that we don't have any Shows

30:30

with girls doing this kind of stuff,

30:32

you know, yeah a nexus point there

30:34

Yeah, oh, I mean I really cuz

30:36

like when I think about the other

30:38

cartoons of that era that I was

30:40

watching There were girl characters on them,

30:42

but they weren't I don't know they

30:45

weren't the the focus, you know And

30:48

and certainly they weren't superheroes so

30:50

and that's that's the other part

30:52

of it Exactly like you said

30:55

like even when I joke about

30:57

rainbow bright rainbow bright didn't punch

30:59

anybody She wasn't she should have

31:02

ever now just for a treat

31:04

She wasn't she I can't remember

31:07

her ever engaging in physical combat

31:09

now now a gritty rainbow bright

31:11

reboot I would take in a

31:14

heartbeat I

31:16

love the idea, but actually, that's

31:18

a good idea. We could use

31:20

that now, just like, I

31:23

don't know, especially with as

31:25

scandalized as rainbows have become.

31:28

Well, it would have to be

31:30

entirely like the entire, all of

31:32

her like color, color kids, all

31:34

the color kids. It

31:37

would be a whole like the entire

31:39

LGBTQ, we'd represent everybody. This would be,

31:42

no, this is a queer show that we are talking about.

31:44

This is, these are not straight people. These

31:48

are not straight people. They're

31:50

the color kids. If you remember the

31:53

show, they're not straight people. That sounds

31:55

like a euphemism, asking somebody, are you

31:57

color kid? Are you a

32:00

friend of Rainbow Bright? I

32:04

mean wait, wasn't her little

32:07

friend called Twink? Yes.

32:09

Yeah, all right. loving

32:16

this instead of the

32:19

little fuzzy alien thing

32:22

it's just a mean

32:24

thin gay man

32:26

twink I need your

32:29

help you can't call

32:32

me that who carries

32:34

around a little

32:36

like a fanny pack

32:39

of star star sprinkles

32:42

yeah this is untwink

32:48

See, this is the gritty reboot we

32:51

need. Forget Powerpuff Girls. That's

32:53

an original idea here on

32:56

the buffering. Yeah, TM.

32:58

Let's talk about it. No,

33:01

there were many reboots of Powerpuff Girls though,

33:03

yeah? Like three?

33:06

They did, I

33:08

think three. There

33:10

were several because there was the one.

33:13

I guess the one, I

33:16

don't know which one it was that I got

33:18

the girls into for a little bit that Charlie

33:20

and Cooper really dug. They never saw the original.

33:23

I may have shown them like an

33:25

episode or two of the old school

33:27

Powerpuff Girls. Because

33:30

that was, I know the newer

33:32

one, the one that you're probably

33:34

thinking of, the one with Bliss

33:36

is, that was 2016. Yes,

33:39

that's the one that Charlie has seen Cooper

33:41

has only seen a little bit I probably

33:43

and even this time around just our schedules

33:45

didn't line up I just rewatched some of

33:48

the old stuff without them But I probably

33:50

need to show Cooper because I feel like

33:52

all the fighting and stuff She would really

33:54

dig I think and especially because the older

33:57

one was a little The tone is different

33:59

from the original to the 2016 one even

34:01

though it's it's more similar than some of

34:03

the other because the other one is what

34:06

the Powerpuff Girls Z which is the anime

34:08

Yes, completely its own thing But the

34:11

the old -school power of girls doesn't

34:13

have as much like Like there's a

34:15

lot more kind of wink nod humor

34:17

in the new one, you know, they

34:19

have a lot of topical jokes. They

34:21

joke about I don't know like The

34:24

internet and yeah trending videos and twerking

34:26

and things, you know It's it's clearly

34:28

trying to engage with the youth the

34:30

old one didn't really try to do

34:32

that It was kind of the joke

34:35

was their cute little girls and they're

34:37

violent And that was sort of it

34:39

for every episode. Which,

34:41

you know, it's interesting too because

34:43

part of the reason that there

34:45

weren't a lot of shows like

34:47

that with girls is because there

34:49

was this sort of acceptance that,

34:51

well, the only kids who like

34:53

to watch shows about fighting monsters

34:55

or aliens or, you know, giant

34:58

animals or whatever, the only shows

35:00

that are the only kids that

35:02

would like that would be boys.

35:04

Right. And so. You know,

35:06

you would make the characters in them boys

35:08

and maybe like a token girl just to

35:10

say you have one. But like they would

35:12

be boys because it's being watched by boys

35:14

and they want to see themselves in the

35:16

characters and whatever. So it's unique to make

35:18

a show like this where your characters are

35:20

girls. They're and they're not just girls. They're

35:23

little girls, especially like bubbles, who is

35:26

a little girl acting like a little

35:28

girl. who likes

35:30

cute animals and talks in

35:32

a squeaky voice and is,

35:34

you know, in very stereotypical

35:36

little girl character. But

35:38

then there is a lot of the episode that would

35:41

be taken up by the fighting. Yeah.

35:43

And so you're accepting that a

35:46

girl would want to watch that,

35:48

which is, you know, that was kind of, I mean,

35:51

there weren't that that acceptance wasn't really there. I mean,

35:53

even if even if I think about like Sailor Moon,

35:55

yes, there are battle scenes, but I don't

35:58

feel like the majority of what I'm, and

36:00

certainly not with like a bunch of punching,

36:02

you know? You know what I mean? Sailor

36:05

Moon fights with the power of love. Right. The power

36:07

of girls fight with the power of these hands. Yes.

36:09

And that, I mean, that's kind of a unique, I

36:13

don't, I don't know that there were,

36:15

what other shows like that feature like

36:17

the, the starred girls or only girls

36:19

certainly were on. mean

36:24

in that in I can think of other

36:26

things where they weren't like I don't know

36:28

I remember watching totally spies a lot in

36:30

the same time period But that had a

36:32

bigger focus on like their teen girls that

36:35

have teen girl eyes and then sometimes they

36:37

fight crime Powerpuff girls really was the joke

36:39

was the violence. Yeah, like that You know

36:41

it really was just there was some sort

36:43

of setup some sort of slightly uncut like

36:46

a lot of the bad guys were sort

36:48

of uncomfortable and weird and then the girls

36:50

would fight them. It was a very, like

36:52

it was, you know, a pretty simple, never

36:55

really had a lot of like deep plot development,

36:57

you know, kind of,

37:00

I don't know. I mean, it was one of

37:02

those shows that I think walked the line of

37:05

like kids could watch this and enjoy it, but

37:07

this is also sort of made for adults. Your

37:09

characters too, unless, and I mean, I, I haven't

37:11

watched all of it in a while. And so

37:14

maybe as it went on, there are things that

37:16

changed. But I feel like generally speaking too, we

37:18

use these three, the three power puff girls. stay

37:21

fairly static in like who

37:23

they are, what they

37:25

like. You know what I mean?

37:27

We don't undergo some grand character

37:29

development change within each one. You

37:32

know, Blossom is the leader. Bubbles

37:35

is, you know, likes animals and

37:37

Buttercup likes to fight. And I

37:39

don't know. You know what I

37:42

mean? Like, although, yes, although it

37:44

is, I think canonically agreed on

37:46

that Bubbles is the capable of

37:48

the most violence. Yes. From

37:51

that I don't know it's so

37:53

funny the things that stick in

37:55

your head when you're a kid,

37:57

but the episode where fuzzy lumpkins

37:59

makes the meat gun and Turns

38:01

bubbles pigtail into a drumstick, and

38:03

then she goes absolutely insane and

38:05

just like beats the crap out

38:08

of him That episode stuck in

38:10

my head like that that something

38:12

about that meat pigtail disturbed me

38:14

It was like Well, yeah, I

38:16

mean, it was like little like

38:18

kid level body horror, which I

38:20

think is why I latched onto

38:22

it. But that established that she

38:24

was actually the one capable of

38:27

the most violence. Those were your

38:29

early vegan impulses. You were so

38:31

repulsed by the meat, but the

38:33

idea that maybe it was that

38:35

like your hair would turn into

38:37

meat and then you would have

38:39

meat attached to your head. I

38:42

just like literally that episode just that

38:44

idea of just like just being turned

38:46

into a disgusting. lump of meat, which

38:49

I guess we are. I mean, they

38:51

are. It's it's amazing how much

38:53

you still love Gaga despite the meat dress, you

38:55

know. Well, she's apologized

38:57

for the meat dress. Oh,

39:00

has she? Well, not apologize. I think

39:02

she's kind of said, like, yeah, you know, I was trying

39:04

to get attention. Oh, you

39:06

know what? I don't. Man, this makes

39:08

me feel really out of touch. I

39:10

guess there might have been some like

39:12

outrage because it was meat, huh? This

39:15

never occurred to me. I don't remember

39:17

that controversy, but I can see now

39:19

that there would have been people who

39:21

would say like, hey, that's not respectful.

39:24

You shouldn't dress in me. Those are real. I

39:27

guess never thought of that. Apology is the

39:29

wrong word. She has since said that that

39:31

was maybe, it was not something she would

39:33

do now. Interesting

39:36

sidebar. I've never thought about it in that

39:38

light. I've just thought about like, ugh, that

39:40

must have felt. weird to wear

39:43

meat. My only thought was

39:45

always just like you could you could

39:47

do that synthetically and it would not.

39:51

I feel like that would just I would be worried about the smell. You

39:55

could make a cool meat dress out of things out

39:57

of something that's not meat. That's

39:59

true. it's kind of like those

40:01

challenges they used to do on Project Runway

40:03

where like you'd go to the grocery store

40:05

and use like unusual materials like. You

40:08

don't go buy like a tablecloth or

40:10

like some curtains and make it like

40:13

do something weird, you know the ones

40:15

you were rooting for the ones who

40:17

are like It's this is entirely aluminum

40:20

foil, you know Yeah, but there's there's

40:22

a level there between it's entirely aluminum

40:24

foil and it's rotting flesh of animals

40:26

like I feel like that is I

40:29

feel like the judges would have some

40:31

strong feedback for that like this is

40:33

not Yeah, I can't see I

40:37

can't see Michael Kors loving that. No,

40:39

I can't. I can't put this isn't

40:41

a ready to wear. I

40:45

would have lots of questions. Yeah,

40:52

which I'm assuming I know,

40:54

but rewatching, which Powerpuff girl

40:56

do you still identify with?

40:59

You know, I don't. I

41:03

feel like this is just, I was rewatching it

41:05

and I'm so old. The character I'm most identified

41:07

with was Fuzzy Lumpkins when he's just alone and

41:09

he's in his cabin and he's telling everything to

41:11

get away from him and he wants his privacy.

41:13

I'm like, I don't know when in my life

41:15

I stopped being a Powerpuff girl and I started

41:17

being Fuzzy Lumpkins, but that's it for me. But

41:20

if I had to choose one, well,

41:22

I, cause I always think of like you

41:24

and Riley factoring into it because there's three

41:26

of us. And it's like, I mean, you're

41:28

the leader, right? You're, you're blossom. Feel

41:31

like that's obvious. I don't know am

41:33

I well, I think it's also even

41:36

though it's not like It's not spelled

41:38

out as much. She's also the smart

41:40

one. Oh Well, I

41:42

guess I guess yeah

41:44

And then between the

41:46

other two, I don't

41:48

know like I don't

41:51

I'm not particularly tough

41:53

but How do you

41:55

see it organized I

41:58

don't know what what I was going to say

42:00

is nowadays I identify most with the professor. I

42:04

feel like I'm raising Powerpuff

42:06

Girls now. That's fair. That's

42:08

fair. That's the problem. I

42:10

feel like when we were younger and we

42:12

watched the show and this would have been

42:14

pre -Reilly so it was just the two

42:16

of us. I felt like we used to

42:18

sort of fall into you were Buttercup and

42:20

I was Bubbles. Which is

42:23

weird that I look back now, and

42:25

I don't know why like I'm sitting

42:27

here thinking like why did I see

42:29

myself as bubbles? Hey people change to

42:31

see that side probably would relate the

42:33

most to bubbles now and that she

42:35

loves animals Yeah, she's kind of the

42:37

least interested in well. She's not the

42:39

least interested in violence She does not

42:41

go to violence first, but she's the

42:43

most capable of it, which is something

42:46

that I would relate Well, I think

42:48

we also were yeah, yeah You

42:51

would be violent first, but I'd be

42:54

violent most I probably well I probably

42:56

would and I don't know if like

42:58

What we were picking up on what

43:01

maybe I was picking up on I'll

43:03

speak for myself as a kid is

43:05

that Buttercup's character is more like because

43:07

she's tougher and she likes fighting I

43:10

Think in especially in the 90s. She

43:12

read is the most masculine of the

43:14

three. Yeah She was like

43:17

the tomboy. You know what I mean?

43:19

She's also kind of a in my

43:22

head. That was you She's like also

43:24

sort of a bad one if there

43:26

is a bad one I love the

43:28

episode where she she gets a crush

43:30

on a member of the gang green

43:32

gang Yeah, and you know like her

43:35

sisters are in trouble, but she's like

43:37

rocking out Yeah, I see myself in

43:39

that but I I know it's true

43:41

and I certainly now I don't I

43:43

don't think I'm like Bubbles at all.

43:45

And so I don't know why as

43:47

a kid I would have thought that,

43:50

that like that's me and Taylor. Well,

43:54

that's what you do as a kid,

43:56

you know, you pick your rainbow bright

43:58

character, you pick your sailor scout, you

44:00

pick your power ranger, your power up

44:02

of girl. Which is so backwards because

44:04

like if I picked my sailor scout,

44:06

I mean it was Sailor Mars was

44:09

my sailor scout who was angry. and

44:11

violent would you would see the

44:14

most is like a buttercup exactly

44:16

I was ready to set people

44:18

on fire I don't know it's

44:20

interesting what is it about like

44:22

I feel like if you look

44:25

at the sailor scouts um I

44:27

yet sailor Mars is the angry

44:29

one but sailor Jupiter I would

44:31

say is the more like Tough

44:34

like you know, I mean you get

44:37

this like kind of like again like

44:39

like sports kind of tomboyish masculine energy

44:41

kind of thing is What it was

44:44

at the color green that we used

44:46

as like 90s shorthand for like this

44:48

is the boyish one It is funny

44:51

because you would think it would be

44:53

blue, but it's absolutely not no The

44:55

great green means like that's the one

44:58

Hey, if you're if you think you

45:00

might be a lesbian What

45:03

uh, yeah cuz uh patty or

45:05

uh, what am I the oh

45:07

my gosh the peanuts character Peppermint

45:10

patty peppermint patty. Yeah patty. I'm

45:12

just we're on we're on first

45:14

-name basis If you wear green

45:16

and you have and you have

45:18

a visible ring of keys Now

45:20

we know how you signal to

45:22

the world that you're probably less

45:24

No, but I uh Yeah, I

45:26

mean I it's funny because I

45:29

can see that now like in

45:31

my adult life I would identify

45:33

with a character that was a

45:35

leader more but at the time

45:37

it was hard for me to

45:39

maybe just because I was young

45:41

and insecure and I couldn't have

45:43

ever seen myself whoever the leader

45:45

was no matter what show we

45:47

watched even Rainbow Bright and I

45:50

adored the character of Rainbow Bright

45:52

as a small child loved Rainbow

45:54

Bright I was not Rainbow Bright

45:57

I couldn't be. I couldn't be the leader. I

45:59

couldn't be in charge. Now I

46:01

wouldn't say that about myself now. Now I can

46:03

be rainbow bright. But I couldn't know back then.

46:05

I'm glad you've made that realization that you've gotten

46:08

that point. You can be rainbow

46:10

bright. I can be rainbow bright. I

46:12

don't know. I always had the audacity because in

46:14

my friend group when we had our our assigned

46:16

sailor scouts, I was sailor moon and that was

46:18

very important to me. You were the leader. But

46:21

then sailor moon was a different kind of

46:23

leader. She led with her heart, you know,

46:25

her whole. I just saw the sailor moon

46:28

musical live this this past weekend. It was

46:30

very, very lovely. But The

46:32

whole core of that is like all

46:34

of her friends were sort of rejects

46:36

and weirdos in their own way. And

46:38

she led by loving them all and

46:40

by giving them a place to exist.

46:43

And that was not, you know, a

46:45

different kind of leader. That's

46:48

very sweet. And you were,

46:50

I mean, growing up, you were the leader of

46:53

your little friend group there. Well,

46:56

so I always made sense to

46:58

me. So,

47:03

you can sort of coalesce the

47:05

scouts into the powerpuff girls. You

47:07

get the smart one, but

47:10

also the confident one. I

47:12

don't know, that's sort of

47:14

Mercury and Venus in... Blossom

47:18

no, I mean it blossom. Yeah and

47:20

blossom. Yeah, I don't know. There's some

47:22

math there Well, you could probably make

47:24

a chart there in the Sex and

47:26

City ladies, too. I don't know. I

47:28

know it's pop culture Well, and we're

47:30

gonna leave rainbow bright out of it

47:32

for now because we're working on our

47:34

gritty reboot Yeah, there's also there's there's

47:37

a lot. There's a you got boys

47:39

in the rainbow bright averse that's you

47:41

know Are they you did have the

47:43

the rowdy rough boys in in Powerpuff

47:45

Girls, which I always enjoyed What

47:50

was a lot of fun? I need to like

47:52

I said this past week I mainly just had

47:54

to watch it while the kids were at school

47:57

and I was doing other things so I didn't

47:59

get to spend a lot of time with the

48:01

girls watching it but I want to go back

48:03

and watch some of the early episodes. I'm curious

48:05

to see if they would connect with that especially

48:07

since like we talked about it was so much

48:09

about the actual sort of like paddles and well

48:11

that's interesting. And really, I think

48:13

a lot of, I mean, it was a very basic

48:15

formula. There would be a

48:18

cool fight and a really freaky,

48:20

weird, or funny bad guy.

48:22

I mean, the bad guys were so iconic.

48:24

You had like, you know, obviously, JoJo, you

48:26

had Fuzzy Lumpkins, but like, uh, what,

48:29

Sadoosa? Oh

48:31

yeah. Super

48:33

hot. Like, that's where it's kind of like,

48:35

walked that line of like, I don't know,

48:37

with his weird and like, and

48:39

like conservatives have we gotten in this

48:42

day and age would this cartoon be

48:44

able to be made or him the

48:46

the devil character that was truly terrified

48:48

truly terrifying I watched just like all

48:51

the episodes with him in it and

48:53

like this is this is actually scary

48:55

him him was very scary I don't

48:57

know I think that some of that

49:00

might be too intense by today's standards

49:02

which is I love it like I

49:04

don't I was why have I not

49:06

seen a drag act with him And

49:09

sedusa like that's there's their their drag

49:12

queen characters perfect No, that's true a

49:14

lot of them were Well, thank you

49:16

Tay it was fun to go back

49:18

and watch some and like I said,

49:21

I need to I need to reintroduce

49:23

Charlie and Cooper to those early ones

49:25

Yeah Taylor, I think for next week

49:27

we got to talk about the conclave

49:30

Like the the the one that's gonna

49:32

happen or the movie no the just

49:34

the movie. I don't know what's gonna

49:36

happen and I honestly It

49:39

won't have it won't we don't know

49:41

how long it's gonna last so okay,

49:43

almost certainly We won't know the new

49:45

Pope yet, but let's talk about the

49:47

movie in the process All right, I'm

49:49

gonna do my homework and figure out

49:51

my draft pick. Yeah, we'll create it

49:53

We'll give everybody a rundown of who's

49:55

who's up for Pope is there any

49:58

sort of like I know there's fantasy

50:00

football is there some sort of Pope

50:02

adjacent type Is there some

50:04

sort of fantasy conclave? Can we organize

50:06

one? I guarantee you there is, and

50:08

I guarantee you there are people betting

50:10

on this. I guarantee like to put

50:12

some money into the Pope conclave. I've

50:14

never. Fantasy. I'm

50:16

not a big betting person. I don't think

50:18

I would start with the conclave, but I

50:21

bet you there is someone out there. There

50:23

are groups that have organized. betting

50:26

on the conclave. I

50:28

like the idea that it's just like all the

50:30

Catholic grannies at the bake sale. Oh

50:35

yeah. All

50:37

right, well that'll be good. Then everybody will be ready

50:39

for the conclave. Wonderful. All

50:42

right. Well, Taylor, thank you. If you haven't

50:44

watched Powerpuff Girls before, you absolutely should. It's

50:46

a lot of fun. It's a cartoon, but

50:48

it, you know, I think it is very

50:50

accessible for adults, even if you don't have

50:52

sort of the nostalgia we have associated with

50:55

it. And there's lots of iterations of it.

50:59

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