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for offer terms and sweeps details. Welcome

1:44

back. My name is

1:46

Kit. I'm Andy. And

1:48

I'm Steve. And this

1:50

is streaming things, streaming

1:52

severance this time. It's

1:54

episode eight of season two.

1:56

Sweet vitriol. Sweet vitriol. I love

1:59

that we were making the same.

2:01

You guys are both on it

2:03

at the same time. Andy Knight

2:06

locked in. We are brothers. It

2:08

does fit perfectly. Perfectly. Perfectly. What

2:10

an episode. You know, last week, we kind

2:12

of, I think we were collectively

2:14

worried that it wasn't a

2:17

bottle episode or anything. It was

2:19

a lot. It was actually the most reveals

2:21

to the core plot of any episode of

2:23

Severance ever, maybe. But at the same time.

2:25

I think we all, I know I did,

2:28

but I think we were all kind of

2:30

worried that the audience would do that thing

2:32

where they kind of missed the other seven

2:34

characters so much that they were a

2:36

little let down by it. But I

2:38

was completely wrong to predict that. I

2:40

think it's the highest rated episode of

2:42

the show ever. And I know for

2:44

me personally on my like Tiktok videos

2:47

and Instagram videos and stuff, a

2:49

flood of just gushing love for

2:51

that episode and the art of

2:53

it. So that's wonderful. What a

2:55

neat surprise. We didn't get to

2:57

talk about how the cinematographer of

2:59

the show directed that episode, and

3:01

that was her directorial debut. Oh,

3:03

fun. What a great debut. What

3:05

a debut. Yeah, what a debut.

3:07

Incredible. I say all that to

3:09

say that I really do think

3:12

people are going to be pissed

3:14

this time. Yeah. But I could

3:16

be wrong again. You could be.

3:18

Maybe. We typically don't discuss

3:20

anything about the show. Like off air

3:22

we want to save it. It's all the juice

3:24

for the for the mics. Yeah, so I don't

3:26

know what you're going to tell me until we

3:28

turn these mics on. Right. But Andy and

3:31

I we did a boo-boo. We

3:33

talked while I was at the

3:35

gym. We talked while I was

3:37

at the gym. I called it

3:39

because Andy's gives me a good

3:42

pump when we talked. No, it

3:44

did. He's good for that. I

3:46

called Andy for a good pump

3:48

and call me Andy pre-work out

3:50

for something. We need to work

3:52

on that nickname, but it's not

3:55

catchy, but. So here's my theory

3:57

about this. Like if you were

3:59

writing. If this was a book, this

4:01

would be perfectly paced chapters.

4:04

Like, episode six, at the

4:06

end of that episode, our

4:08

protagonist passes out, has a seizure,

4:10

and then episode seven, because he's

4:13

unconscious, it makes a perfect kind

4:15

of eternal sunshine of the spotless

4:17

mind. exploration of his mind, his

4:19

memories. That's a great time to

4:21

see where Jima is and explore

4:24

their past relationship. And then at

4:26

the end of that episode, we

4:28

get Devin threatening to call Cobell.

4:30

So then chapter eight, we get

4:32

a Cobell chapter that ends with

4:35

the call from Devin. I honestly

4:37

think it's brilliant writing-wise. But in

4:39

a week-to-week show, it's a balsy move to

4:41

forego a lot of the juicy questions that

4:44

we've been exploring up to this

4:46

point. It reminds me of when

4:48

George R.R. Martin wrote A Feast for Crows

4:50

and he cut out like all of

4:52

the favorite characters. And he went for

4:54

that option instead of like half of

4:57

each story. He wanted to really progress

4:59

half the stories. Yeah, so that kind

5:01

of reminds me of that, like, because they

5:03

could have like dipped into Cobell over

5:05

seven and eight and kind of, but

5:07

hey, I don't know. I say all the to

5:10

say I think I have a lot

5:12

of fear. There was going to be

5:14

a lot of what the fuck. this

5:16

week, but I am curious to see

5:18

what you guys feel about this. So

5:20

that's a nice little, little teaser. I'm

5:22

setting you guys up. I'm addressing these

5:25

questions. Nice little Apple teaser. I want

5:27

you to answer them, and they will

5:29

be answered soon. We're going to give

5:31

our overall thoughts on the episode, and

5:33

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5:35

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5:38

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5:40

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but mysterious. They're important to

6:20

me. Yeah. But also we

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6:47

all being said, business wise,

6:49

what are your overall thoughts

6:51

on episode eight, sweet vitriol

6:54

Andy? At the end. Up

6:56

to that point, I think that

6:58

it is pretty plotting. I think

7:00

that it's, it feels like

7:02

a B story for

7:05

a much longer and

7:07

frankly more interesting episode.

7:09

I love Patricia Arquette. I'm

7:11

glad that she's back. I've

7:13

been missing her for these

7:15

episodes where she's been gone.

7:18

They said goodbye Miss Cobell

7:20

after episode two. and they

7:22

meant it because she haven't

7:24

been around and I'm glad

7:26

to have her back. But I

7:28

think that the problem with this

7:31

episode and I agree with you

7:33

that like plotting wise it makes

7:35

sense right but with the mystery

7:37

that this show hinges upon and

7:39

her being so ingrained into the

7:42

mystery the foundational aspects of this

7:44

mystery it feels like a plot

7:46

that is being told to me

7:48

in a language that I don't

7:51

speak very well. So there was

7:53

a lot of like, oh, who's that person?

7:55

And who's that person? And they're talking

7:57

about things that I don't know anything.

8:00

and I don't really know anything

8:02

about her to begin with, other

8:04

than like she was a manager

8:06

and she has like a kind of

8:08

unhealthy obsession with one of

8:10

her employees. Oh, mom. I

8:12

do think that with context,

8:14

once we see the rest of the

8:16

season and the rest of the series

8:19

as a whole, that this will be

8:21

in hindsight a much better episode

8:23

and on a rewatch, I will

8:25

enjoy it a lot more. But

8:27

on a first viewing. it being

8:29

what it is, I'm a little

8:31

disappointed because, like you said, this

8:33

is the second episode where they

8:35

have left out the meat of their

8:38

characters. The meat of the story, the

8:40

meat, I shouldn't say the meat of

8:42

the story because obviously that

8:44

Miss Casey and now Miss Cobel,

8:46

they are, you know, pivotal characters,

8:48

but they've left out the core

8:50

four for two episodes now, which

8:53

is a pretty bold thing to do.

8:55

And we got some interesting stuff. The

8:57

ending, I was like, holy fuck, you

9:00

know what I mean? And it

9:02

kind of reframes everything. It

9:04

makes me want to watch the

9:06

show completely over again, because

9:08

it reframes everything. But the

9:11

experience of watching the episode

9:13

was a little bit of a

9:15

letdown. Steve, would you think? I

9:17

actually quite like this episode. I

9:19

say that because, well, before I

9:22

go into white. Why? as I was

9:24

watching the episode, I actually had the

9:26

same fears that you all were having.

9:28

Like, I'm enjoying the episode. I'm loving

9:30

the mystery. I love Cobell so much

9:33

that I was actually like really kind

9:35

of into the whole like, what is

9:37

she doing? What's going on? Because I,

9:39

if you had told me, you know,

9:41

during the first season that Cobell came

9:44

from a shanted town that was built

9:46

on ether factory and everyone there is

9:48

huffing ether in their spare time, I

9:51

would, I was like, okay, sure. track,

9:53

but sure. So I was actually kind of

9:55

into the mystery of it all. That being

9:57

said, as I was watching it, I was

9:59

very aware. that this episode is

10:01

edited with a very methodical

10:03

pace. And I like that pace. I

10:06

think it works in certain

10:08

situations, but I was also wondering,

10:11

like, are people gonna like this

10:13

pacing, especially where it's at in

10:15

the episode? I do think if

10:17

you were to binge this entire

10:19

series, this wouldn't be an issue.

10:21

But because we're at this week

10:23

to week release, I do worry

10:25

that it could be a... I worry much

10:27

more than I was about last week about

10:30

how people are going to feel about this

10:32

one. I think this one might be the

10:34

one where people are like, I'm happy that

10:36

Patricia our cat's back, but I want to

10:38

go back to the core four. That being

10:40

said, I really like this episode. I think

10:42

this is a very good example of how

10:45

television as a medium is successful when you

10:47

show rather than tell, because there's

10:49

a lot of we're going through

10:51

the town. It looks really run

10:53

down. Why is it run down?

10:55

Everyone's like huffing the substance. Oh,

10:57

what's that about? Meet me at

11:00

the factory. Oh, what's the factor?

11:02

Oh, it's a lumen factory. Oh,

11:04

it's an ether factory. They're

11:06

all huffing ether. And then

11:08

we get into the whole

11:11

Sissy part of the episode,

11:13

which I think is. We're getting

11:15

to the Sissy part of the

11:17

episode, which I think, we're kind

11:19

of kicks it up a notch. Yeah,

11:21

I guess. I was trying to figure out

11:24

who that was too, and I think

11:26

I have aunt question mark at some

11:28

point. At first I was like, that

11:30

can't be her mom, but I assume

11:32

it's her aunt. But that's where like

11:35

some real fun revelations come into play,

11:37

like the whole idea that, you

11:39

know, this is a revelatory episode,

11:41

because the whole idea that of severance

11:43

itself has kind of been upended,

11:46

like, oh, Harmony Cobell is the

11:48

one that kind of came up

11:50

with. this idea of, at least the mechanics

11:52

of severance. Oh, she's a genius. Oh,

11:54

yeah. That's why she kind of hates

11:57

Lumen is they stole her fucking idea,

11:59

you know? And it just adds a

12:01

whole extra layer to this character that's been

12:03

a mystery this whole time. I love learning

12:05

a little bit more about where she came

12:07

from it humanizes her in a way.

12:09

And also, like this episode, I think

12:12

leans really into the sort of anti-capitalist

12:14

metaphor that this show plays with. Like in

12:16

the first season, it was playing with that metaphor

12:18

a lot. And I think in this season,

12:20

I don't think it necessarily got

12:22

away from it, but the dialogue

12:24

and the conversation about Severance that

12:26

sort of definitely. gotten a little

12:28

bit away from this anti-capitalistic anti-work

12:30

metaphor that's been playing with by

12:33

going to a town where the

12:35

factory literally just like up and

12:37

left and just ruin this the

12:39

people who lived there like they

12:41

were used up child labor was

12:43

involved and everyone was just abandoned

12:45

by the corporate overlords and I

12:47

kind of liked getting back to that

12:49

especially like the way our modern society

12:51

is sort of operating at this general

12:54

at this place in time. But I

12:56

really just appreciated just learning a little

12:58

bit more about Harmony Cobell and that

13:00

you know your boy was like pausing at

13:03

every like, oh, she turned a page. What

13:05

is that? Like trying to learn everything I

13:07

can about her because I think Patricia Arquette

13:09

is so amazing. And she's just captivating in

13:11

this role. And like this episode, I think a

13:14

lot of the work for my enjoyment was

13:16

based off her performance alone because I

13:18

think she's just incredible. But Kate, what

13:20

about you. I'm interested to see what

13:22

you. I'm interested to see what you.

13:24

I'm kind of between you guys, like

13:26

it wasn't a miserable experience. I

13:28

think Patricia Arquette is a phenomenal

13:31

actress and I don't think Andy's

13:33

saying otherwise either. Oh, I don't

13:35

think you're saying either, yeah. A

13:37

great character that we have missed

13:39

for five episodes now. And I

13:41

do, again, I just think as a writer,

13:43

as if I could imagine being a writer,

13:45

I think this is the obvious thing to

13:47

do in retrospect because I remember

13:50

saying, I said it publicly, at least in my videos,

13:52

I don't know if I said it on the pot,

13:54

I bet I did, that somewhere around the end of

13:56

episode six, I was like, I can't believe we have

13:58

four left, and we got so far. this story this

14:00

season, that's great. And then they were

14:03

like, pump the brakes, Chapi, we got

14:05

a plan for that. So it makes

14:07

perfect sense that like we get these

14:09

two. Again, the seven did advance like

14:11

the overall mystery a ton, but plot

14:13

wise, not much. Like as far as

14:15

what our characters were used to were

14:18

progressing toward. And then we get this

14:20

huge step aside on episode eight. And

14:22

now we got the pin ultimate and

14:24

a finale to like take it home

14:26

with new information. But yeah, like it's a

14:28

little bit. Oh, where's, you know,

14:31

where's Dylan? What's going on?

14:33

We're still in G. Yeah. Oh,

14:35

he's making out with Gretchen,

14:37

I'm sure. I hope. But

14:39

I also felt pretty satisfied

14:42

during this because on the pot,

14:44

we get nothing with love

14:46

and respect for the most

14:48

part. But in the other

14:51

areas where I'm at, I'm

14:53

battling on the front lines

14:56

of terrible conspiracy theories about

14:58

the show and sometimes people

15:00

are pretty angry that I

15:02

shoot down certain things. And this

15:05

week I chose to fight the theory

15:07

that Devin is some sort

15:09

of lumen agent. Oh yeah, that

15:11

one was popping up a lot this

15:13

week. Because of her willingness to call

15:16

Cobell so quickly and how she treated

15:18

Regabi and stuff like that. And you

15:20

know, and then a lot of people

15:22

were like pumped breaks on that. I'm

15:24

not saying she's a looming agent. I'm

15:26

saying she's a typical hipster white woman

15:28

who looks down on Regabi because she's

15:30

a woman of color. And I don't, again,

15:32

I'm not the right person to speak on

15:35

that either, but I will say I don't

15:37

think that was intended because... Who would trust

15:39

some stranger that's next to your like

15:41

bleeding unconscious brother over? Literally anybody, you

15:43

know what I mean? Like I don't

15:46

think it has anything to do with

15:48

that. It's just she's panicking because her

15:50

brother's looking like he's about to die. Right.

15:52

So anyway, I said all that like I

15:54

think that's fucking ridiculous and it's

15:56

dumb and the reason that would surprise you

15:58

is not because it's. a good twist because

16:01

it's dumb. And I said it more

16:03

words than that, but then I started

16:05

to think some of their arguments aren't

16:07

too bad. Like how you code any's

16:10

with blue and outies with red.

16:12

They do that somewhat throughout the

16:14

series. And Devin wears a lot of

16:16

blue. And he does refer to her

16:18

as Persephone. As a nickname at one

16:20

point. Have you seen this? Yeah. And

16:22

of course that Greek story, I

16:24

was like, oh, fuck, you know,

16:26

Persephone having to live in hell.

16:29

Yeah, and so there is a

16:31

possibility that she was severed at

16:33

one point and doesn't know it. So

16:35

anyway, but throughout this episode,

16:37

you know, the way that it ends,

16:39

it kind of seems like a straight

16:42

up, Devin just reached up for

16:44

help. This is their way to

16:46

humanize Cobell for her to join

16:48

the Avengers. What a weapon if

16:50

she invented severance and she's on

16:52

that team now. And that kind

16:54

of retroactively explains why

16:56

she's been kind of like, oh,

16:58

what's Raghabi up to? Because in

17:00

her mind, she's fucking with the thing

17:03

she created that she doesn't necessarily fully

17:05

understand. Raghabi. This fucking amateur over here.

17:07

Yeah. And also explains why she was

17:10

more curious as a scientist when the

17:12

idea of rant aggression came up. Like

17:14

the board was so shut down, like

17:16

that's not impossible. And she's like, it

17:19

might be. It might be. And you

17:21

should listen to me more. I invented

17:23

it, you know. Regami might be up

17:25

to something. Honestly, I love this twist

17:28

because like you said, we brought it

17:30

back home a little bit with the

17:32

critique, the satire of capitalism with the child

17:34

labor and the way this town looks. I

17:36

forget the name of the town. I did

17:39

write a town. Salt's neck. Salt neck. That

17:41

was the, I'm glad that popped popped up.

17:43

I popped up. on the side of the

17:45

highway. She was going to Saltz Neck. I'm

17:47

like, guys, I tried looking it up on

17:49

Google. It's not a real place. Oh, because

17:51

they made it up for the show. Okay,

17:53

we're actually going there. She was headed

17:55

there. Yeah, they brought it back to

17:57

the satire of capitalism with that stuff.

18:00

but also a corporation taking a woman's

18:02

idea and passing it off as their

18:04

own. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, that's totally true.

18:06

I love that, but I found something

18:08

while you were talking that I thought

18:10

was interesting. As somebody who

18:13

used to get high a lot,

18:15

I was in trade, I was

18:17

never a huffer. per se. This

18:19

episode does feature one of my

18:21

favorite examples of you want to

18:23

get high? For sure. Towley? Towley's

18:25

been severed. Towies from Salt's Neck

18:27

apparently. I wasn't super into huffing.

18:29

I did. I did my fair

18:31

share of quipits for sure. One

18:33

time I did so many quipits

18:35

that I couldn't order at skyline

18:37

at Skyline. I had to just

18:39

point at the fun. And I

18:41

thought I was stuck like that like

18:43

that forever. And he was there. And

18:46

at the time, we were watching that. I

18:48

thought I was dying. Remember the theme song

18:50

would go. But it was like, wow, wow,

18:52

wow, wow, wow, wow, whoa, wow, whoa, who

18:55

was how it sounded. Anyway, let me look

18:57

up some ether. Is this ether factor. I

18:59

can't believe I never thought to do that

19:01

before. Maybe this has been revealed

19:03

before. I'm not sure, because everybody

19:06

talked about ether for a long

19:08

time. Do you talked about ether

19:10

for a. What it was called when

19:12

you got high on ether or

19:14

when medicine people were called? It

19:16

did have recreational use and it

19:18

was called something. Do you guys

19:21

look to this at all? Is

19:23

this new? Am I talking bombs

19:25

right now? You're dropping a bomb

19:27

on me? I haven't looked

19:29

this up. Polypockets. One who

19:31

was high on ether or

19:33

engaging in the recreational use.

19:35

It was the the enterprise was

19:38

called the ether frolics. Oh, shit. And

19:40

frolics were also referred to

19:42

as people who recreationally sold

19:44

ether. Yeah. So Sissy shouldn't

19:47

have said, you've brought woe into my

19:49

house. She should have pointed at Hampton

19:51

and said, you've brought frolic out in

19:53

my house. You brought frolic up in

19:55

here. Want to get high? Sissy. You

19:58

know you want to, Sissy? I got

20:00

a nice cloth of frolin'. I want

20:02

to get high and fuck all night

20:05

like we used to, sizzi. That's

20:07

a melody. That's got to

20:09

be something. That's got to

20:11

be something. Like that. And

20:13

they started doing this right

20:15

around the time that Kea

20:17

Egan was in that factory

20:19

in the late 19th century.

20:21

So Lo is heroin, malice is

20:23

meth. What else we got? Frolics,

20:26

ether. Yeah. Dread. What's dread Oxy

20:28

Cotton? Yeah, seriously. That's how that sounds

20:30

about right. But any who's all you

20:32

guys ready to get in? Let's do it.

20:34

Before we get in, I just want to

20:36

touch on something just because I don't know

20:39

how we could even bring this up throughout

20:41

the recap. But you know how last episode

20:43

there was a lot of numbers and the

20:45

numbers like drainsville, a list of screens that

20:47

were popped up. There's been a, have you

20:49

seen this theory popping up of what the

20:51

end goal for cold harbor is? And I

20:54

thought this was the first one that I

20:56

was ever like. Okay, that's an

20:58

interesting idea of where this shows

21:00

going with what Lumen's trying to do

21:02

with Gemma down there. I think Cold

21:05

Harbor does have something to do

21:07

with death. Yeah, agreed. Well, there's,

21:09

specifically in regards to the ID

21:11

numbers that appear on screen. I

21:13

haven't seen this now. So there's,

21:16

there's a thing where, and I'm

21:18

not, I'm not a super, I'm not super

21:20

well versus I was trying to

21:22

frantically like. do some more research before

21:24

we start a recording, but I didn't

21:26

get as far as I wanted to.

21:28

But essentially there are ID numbers associated

21:31

with different characters. So like Helli has

21:33

an ID number. Gemma has an ID

21:35

number. And at some point, they swap

21:37

the two. So when you see Gemma's

21:39

face, they have Helli's ID number on

21:41

screen. So people are thinking that cold

21:43

Harper, they're literally going to drown Gemma's

21:45

consciousness out and integrate Helli's consciousness

21:48

into another body. So they are

21:50

going to do like the... Altered

21:52

carbon sleeve type thing where

21:54

you can yeah, is it

21:56

gonna be helly or Hellena?

21:58

Well, I assume Helena, but

22:00

they're using Helly R's ID number

22:03

is what the numbers are going. They're

22:05

interswapping and it makes sense because in

22:07

the intro title of the show you

22:09

see Helena and Gemma alternate in spaces.

22:12

And so this was the first time

22:14

I saw a theory pop-up of like

22:16

that wasn't cloning or all the stuff

22:18

that people have been guessing that's going

22:21

down a lumen and were like, oh,

22:23

I can actually see that. What if

22:25

it's only half though? What if they're literally

22:27

trying to see if they can put like

22:29

an any and another body and have

22:32

Helena and Helli exist at the same

22:34

time but in two different bodies? Oh,

22:36

that'll be wild. I don't see how that

22:38

helps people. Or how that's like a

22:40

technology that they can make money from.

22:42

Oh, you train somebody to be a

22:45

genius scientist and you basically have them

22:47

saved on a hard drive and then

22:49

you can put... 50 of them into

22:51

a bunch of fucking dumb-dum's bodies and

22:53

then be like, all right, we have

22:55

a million Einstein's, go fucking build a

22:58

nuke because obviously they're not

23:00

gonna cure cancer or anything. Nice,

23:02

the new Einstein just dropped. Do

23:04

the firmer update in your brain.

23:06

Or like, you know, create a super

23:08

soldier. That doesn't make sense for

23:10

the rest of the experiments down

23:12

there. Yeah, I mean. The idea

23:15

that they were... experimenting on

23:17

whether or not you could sever

23:19

somebody infinite amount of times and

23:21

have every unpleasant task in daily

23:23

life experienced by only in

23:26

any back. That's something you could sell.

23:28

You know, that makes sense. Like, hey,

23:30

you never have to write on a

23:32

plane again. You never have to go

23:34

to the dentist again. You never have

23:36

to go write Christmas cards again. You

23:38

never have to spend Christmas with your

23:41

family again. That's miserable, right? You could

23:43

do this. It all comes down to the

23:45

Super Soldiers. Be high. But yeah, so I'd

23:47

like the idea as the ultimate goal of

23:49

lumen. Maybe that's just a separate goal of

23:51

theirs for their cult, but they are going

23:53

to sell the other stuff. I don't know.

23:55

But I do love the new, I do like this

23:58

idea that they want to download in any. and

24:00

to another body and leave the outy

24:02

still intact. That'd be neat. A lot

24:04

of interesting stuff I could

24:06

go down. I just wanted to mention

24:09

that briefly because we talked a lot

24:11

about the numbers. It would be absolutely

24:13

complicated for Mark in an interesting

24:15

place to take the story. Yeah.

24:17

The two women he loves in

24:20

one body. Actually simplifies things for

24:22

him a little bit if you

24:24

think about him. Just kidding. As

24:26

long as it ends up being

24:28

nothing about Helli being pregnant or

24:30

Devon being evil, I'll be happy.

24:32

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Thusly, a lumen loyalist

26:09

faces old demons while

26:11

searching for a missing item. One

26:14

ring to rule them all.

26:16

No, sorry. Wrong franchise. Where's

26:18

the precious sissy? We get

26:20

some ocean type shit. Gorgeous

26:22

shot. Of this cold harbor.

26:25

Waves crashing. Gold squawaking.

26:27

Everything you wanted at at at

26:30

an island town. Yeah, said sure looks

26:32

like a cold harbor to me. Right.

26:34

And then this car drives like the

26:36

end of the theatrical version of Blade

26:39

Runner style along this long ocean run,

26:41

a road, great fucking drone shot.

26:43

Oh yeah, beautiful scenery. I love

26:45

the score is, I guess Harmony Cobell's

26:47

like, character score for the show is

26:50

a piano version of the Kier song.

26:52

Kier, chose a monkey. Like that kind

26:54

of, those little notes come out come

26:57

out. Yeah. And she enters Salt's neck

26:59

and it's Cobell and we see

27:01

this Alexander Supertramp type guy. It

27:03

reminded me of him because

27:05

remember he died in the snow in

27:07

like an old bus, but he wasn't huffing.

27:10

He should have been. Yeah, he just ate

27:12

like mushrooms or something. Super apple, bucked him

27:14

up. Yeah, that guy's over there just getting

27:16

high. I thought he was having a panic

27:18

attack and was just like breathing into a

27:21

bag. You know, like on an airplane? Yeah,

27:23

this busless working man. Can't fix it. Oh,

27:25

geez. I thought it looked like John Void

27:27

at one point. And I was like, that's

27:30

probably just actually John Voj. He just wandered

27:32

in the sack. They're like, like, they're like,

27:34

like, like, like, like, keep throwing. Where's my

27:36

daughter. How was it megalopolis? I cracked

27:38

up when she just littered, but in

27:41

the most punctuated way where she like

27:43

finishes brushing her teeth, has that giant

27:45

leader of water. It's not even fully

27:48

empty, spits it out and just like,

27:50

shucks it against the wall. She fucked

27:52

this town. She probably realized it was

27:55

Desani. Oh, that's true. Ew. It's a

27:57

fucking improvement on this place. This is

27:59

worse than. dying of thirst. And on my

28:01

note, is he huffing? Yes, yes he is.

28:03

And Devin is calling her when she gets

28:05

back in the car and she does not

28:08

answer. And we cut to an old woman.

28:10

We find out who's, her name is Rose

28:12

with an oxygen tube. She's in the diner

28:14

on oxygen. Just a drippy pot cafe,

28:16

my guy. Is that what it was

28:18

called? Yeah. And there's an old man

28:20

over there talking about how old

28:23

Dutch Stevens kid flipped a snow

28:25

plow. But dumbass, how do you

28:27

even do that? Apple doesn't fall

28:30

far from the gutter, that's how.

28:32

Oh, he doesn't like Dutch Stevens

28:34

or his fucking kid. I tell

28:36

you what though, here's some free

28:39

ether. Anyone who shit talks Dutch

28:41

Stevens is good in my book.

28:43

In my establishment? Cobell is still

28:46

cruising. She pulls up to this

28:48

tiny green shack, which is that

28:50

diner. What was it called

28:52

again? The Drippy Pot Cafe.

28:54

This town is older than I remember.

28:57

Freiler is what she says

28:59

to Hampton. He's like, well, yeah,

29:01

it's been 30 years and we're

29:03

not doing great economically speaking. Market

29:05

readjustment from a few years ago

29:07

and the fluctuating interest rates. There

29:10

was a retrenchment of some of

29:12

the core infrastructure investments. I feel

29:14

like we needed Margot Robbie in

29:16

a bathtub to explain what he's

29:19

saying. Oh, follow me. I just

29:21

love, uh, the reason why Patricia

29:23

Arquette is so amazing is she

29:25

has some of the wildest dialogue

29:27

ever because of just the way

29:30

that they've written that character to

29:32

speak. And so just her like,

29:34

harmony, Cobel will flip my toboggan.

29:36

I'm just like, we're back, baby.

29:38

I love that line. I love

29:41

her. It's mocking, because it's a

29:43

cold town, right? They wear a lot

29:45

of tobogans, beanies, I would say, but

29:47

hey, it's, I would say. The

29:49

tobogon is the hat, isn't it? I don't

29:51

know. You might be right Steve. You guys

29:54

are making me question. I thought it was

29:56

a hat. I was raised very poor and

29:58

both. Oh, okay, thank God. I was

30:00

like, I'm dumbest and

30:02

I blend my mother

30:04

who always called them

30:06

toboggan's. Yeah, the sled

30:08

is that sled. That's

30:10

like a straight sled,

30:12

but then has a

30:14

little curl at the

30:17

front of it. Yeah, like,

30:19

um, like your classic Christmas

30:21

sled. Rosebud. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

30:23

Yeah, like, you're classic Christmas

30:25

sled. Yeah, yeah. And she

30:27

tells Hampton, and there's a

30:29

lot of tension in their

30:31

interaction here. First, he doesn't

30:33

even want her, you know,

30:36

it's for paying customers only.

30:38

He clocks her walking and

30:40

he's just like, oh, my

30:42

date has got one. I

30:44

sell coffee and drugs, which

30:46

one you want? You need

30:48

to, you need to buy one of

30:50

them to get a table. I can't

30:53

mix them though. Frank, he buys both.

30:55

If you shit talk Dutch, Dutch Stevens,

30:57

you can sit here. That's my rule.

30:59

They're close. They're close, exactly.

31:01

Even though there's some tension

31:03

here, there's some fondness too,

31:05

because it's willing to buy

31:08

our coffee immediately. She says, I need

31:10

a favor, but not here. Meet me at the

31:12

factory. Dot, close up for me. Okay.

31:14

I'm gonna go hang out at the

31:16

old factory. It's 12 o'clock. When do

31:18

we close? Whenever the fuck I say

31:20

so, Dot. I'm not coming back. Dot.

31:22

Look around the rush hours done. The

31:24

rush hours done. Rose and the rush

31:26

hours done. Rose and that guy. Rose

31:28

and that guy. We see as she's

31:30

driving through the town, there's like an

31:32

old barn looking building. It's red, that's

31:34

why I said that. But it's got

31:36

lumen on it all faded. And I

31:38

was like, oh shit, oh shit. This

31:40

is a lumen town. And the old

31:42

factory itself has the giant lumen

31:45

logo as well. Did you get the

31:47

impression that this is the factory

31:49

that Kier worked in? Because she mentioned

31:51

I'm a gene or whatever, however she pronounces it.

31:53

Yeah, she says I'm a gene, which I thought

31:55

was weird, but I took it as it's not

31:57

the same factory, but it's just a ether fact.

32:00

Should they start with a franchise

32:02

of ether factories? Franchise, everything out

32:04

first. They were just selling anesthesia

32:07

around the world. Right. Interesting. My

32:09

pleasure. Little chick fillet of ether.

32:11

At this point, this is a

32:14

side story in non-sac order, but

32:16

at this point I was getting

32:18

so mad because my iPad where

32:21

I take my notes on kept

32:23

auto correcting ether to either. And

32:25

so I'm like, they're arriving at the either

32:27

factor. They don't factor either is my guy.

32:30

It's either. It's a real word. Stop correcting

32:32

real words. I know. Drive me nuts. Well,

32:34

Hampton's upset with her. He says, you know how

32:36

fucked it is? They asked me to come

32:38

here. It is funny. She's like, go, meet

32:41

me at the place where we used to

32:43

do child labor and get abused together. And

32:45

I'm going to ask you something completely irrelevant

32:47

to that. You know the one. Do you

32:50

need an address? It is kind of funny.

32:52

Do you want to put it in your

32:54

maps? I need you to drive me to

32:56

Sissies. And he's like, definitely not doing that.

32:59

If they're watching the house,

33:01

they'll recognize my car. How much

33:03

shit are you in? A lot.

33:05

That's what kind of turns him

33:07

around because he's like, well, wait

33:09

a minute, you're in trouble? You

33:11

don't like looming? Why were we

33:13

aware as an audience that she's in

33:15

any shit? She was offered her job

33:17

back. Yeah, but like with drum

33:20

and standing there all menacing Lee

33:22

and she's like, or not drummer

33:24

but that lurch looking dude. Oh, okay.

33:26

Yeah. She seemed like she's, I took

33:28

it that she thought she was in

33:30

danger. Oh, really? She was going to,

33:32

they were going to kill her if

33:34

she said yes, and so she left.

33:36

Killer or something. Yeah. Whatever they do.

33:38

Put her in a room and make

33:40

her go to the dentist every day.

33:42

You're never going to see Mark Scout

33:44

Scout ever ever again. She's a fucking

33:47

pariah here. The nine. So this whole town

33:49

hates Lumen except Sissy, which is why

33:51

they hate Sissy, right? Or at least

33:53

that's what we gather. Yeah, yeah. She's

33:55

a company lady. What's the nine

33:57

again? There's the four. Vision, Verve.

34:00

with cheer,

34:02

humility, benevolence,

34:04

nimbleness, probity,

34:06

probity, and

34:08

wild. Probitty,

34:10

a lot

34:12

of people

34:14

are anti-bitty,

34:16

I'm probity.

34:19

I love

34:21

tick-all bitty.

34:23

As a person who played destiny a lot

34:25

every time they were like the nine

34:27

or why like it freaks me out

34:30

because there's a race of aliens in

34:32

that franchise called the nine so

34:34

it's a lot of like I don't

34:36

know it's just weird like what are

34:38

they doing the nine? What are they

34:41

up to? Well you didn't think I

34:43

defeated them well he hasn't not that

34:45

too yeah, yeah, but now he thought

34:47

of destiny to give me the nine.

34:49

He likes space man. You know it's

34:51

better than wizards? If you haven't listened

34:53

to Harry Potter coverage, you're pretty weirded

34:56

out right now. But yeah, he's like,

34:58

that's crazy. I'm not going to Sissy's

35:00

house. And she's like, now old colleagues

35:02

lift each other up. And he's like,

35:05

colleagues, we can't be colleagues from being

35:07

forced into child later together.

35:09

Technically with chums once. We were

35:11

chummy. Yeah, like you got them biddies,

35:13

I say yes. Because I'm pro-bittie. That's

35:15

the one of the nine I like.

35:17

But yeah, he says that they met

35:19

each other through child labor. And at

35:22

that point, I'm like, child labor, what

35:24

does that mean? Like, well, we've seen

35:26

Miss Wong. Now we know. They're all

35:28

about that. Yeah, she says, like, I

35:31

can smell the ether on your breath.

35:33

Pesthetic. Yeah, you stupid. Never get high

35:35

on your own supply Hampton. What

35:37

I teach you on these streets.

35:39

I love this line though that she dishes

35:41

out on him. She says like, I

35:43

will not be the punching dummy for

35:45

your resentments. And that

35:48

gets him. He's like, you're right,

35:50

I need therapy, not either. You're

35:52

right. Man would rather huff than

35:54

go to therapy. Let's hobbing my

35:56

truck. It was either this or

35:58

start a podcast. don't deliver equipment

36:01

up here. So either was the

36:03

better choice of those two. But she's she's

36:05

lying in the truck bed in the next

36:07

scene. He's taking her out to Sissy's house.

36:09

Devin calls her again, not a good time

36:12

to talk. So she ignores that as well.

36:14

I wish you would have texted like

36:16

in truck callback later. He's higher than

36:18

a bearded vulture. Don't let him near

36:21

here. I've never seen a bearded

36:23

vulture, but they do get

36:25

high I hear. Higher than

36:27

giraffe pussy is the phrase

36:29

they use around these parts.

36:31

I'm just saying, you could

36:33

also use higher than gas

36:35

prices. Like that? But if

36:37

you want to really crush

36:39

at the party, you use

36:41

the first one. Higher than

36:43

giraffe pussy. Yeah. All right.

36:46

Think about it. It's up

36:48

there. Think about it. She'd

36:50

have been my favorite character.

36:52

That man's higher than giraffe pussy.

36:55

She tells Cobell you are not

36:57

welcome here. He brought that damn

36:59

huff peddler on my property.

37:01

And she gave him his thirst

37:04

for it. That's right. That's right.

37:06

And we do, I think this is

37:08

the part where we see the, no, it's

37:10

not where we see the

37:12

Celestine Cobell plaque, it's later.

37:15

But she goes up to what

37:17

is apparently her old room. She's

37:19

got that weird Fururbie thing

37:21

in there. Oh, Furbies. I was

37:23

trying to figure out what that was.

37:25

I remember these. It looked vaguely familiar,

37:27

like I should know what it is,

37:29

but I couldn't place it. Where's my

37:31

tickle me Elmo? And my stretch Armstrong.

37:33

Those were so good. Where are my beanie

37:35

babies? I had the Princess Diana

37:37

limited edition. Oh my God, was there

37:40

really one of those. It was worth

37:42

a lot of money. I bet it

37:44

was. It's clearly her old room, but

37:46

it's now mostly empty. We see like

37:49

the harmony height marks and stuff. She

37:51

goes back downstairs angry and we see

37:53

the plaque on the wall. It says,

37:55

Celestine Sissy, Cobail. I luckily put her

37:58

nickname in there like she's a wrestler

38:00

or something. Wellerweight. You may know

38:02

Celestine better as her real name,

38:04

Sissy, her stage name. Yeah, she

38:06

is the quarterly striver during the

38:09

fourth quarter of the year of

38:11

vision for the youth apprentice matron.

38:13

She was almost e of the

38:15

queue, you're saying? Well, for the

38:18

fourth quarter, yeah. Oh my goodness. She

38:20

says she took all of her stuff

38:22

and sold it to the poor. And

38:24

harmony is none. That's a shitty

38:26

thing to do. Sell it to

38:28

the poor? Yeah, she didn't give

38:30

it to the poor. Sell it

38:33

to the poor. I didn't even

38:35

catch that. That's so funny. Hey,

38:37

pores, you want this? Pay up.

38:39

That's so funny. Nobody from Lumen

38:41

has been there, but she said,

38:43

Mr. Drummond did call. What have

38:45

you done? Little mouse. So they

38:47

have been looking for harmony. I

38:50

need the key to Mother's room.

38:52

And then we find out we

38:54

keep that shut until all who

38:56

remember her was here. That's right.

38:58

You know that. That's the rule.

39:00

Obviously. Yeah, we treat everyone's bedrooms

39:02

like pharaoh's tombs. We just shut

39:04

them and no one can go in

39:06

until all are dead. And so the

39:08

tube that harmony has carried around

39:11

for entirety of the show is

39:13

her mother's breathing tube that she thinks

39:15

Sissy yanked out and killed her.

39:17

But Sissy at the end of

39:19

this episode claims that her mother

39:21

pulled it out herself because she's

39:23

a coward and she wanted to

39:25

die. But was there ether in that

39:28

as well? Like what was the juice on

39:30

top? Or was it just like albuteral?

39:32

Oh, I think that's like water for

39:35

some humidity and breathing. Like albuteral.

39:37

Maybe she just had asthma. Maybe.

39:39

But presumably there's a lot of

39:42

respiratory issues in this town. From

39:44

the factory. Yeah. She said nothing

39:46

after you pulled the tube from

39:48

her gullet. Clap! She slapped her.

39:51

Smacks the shit out of her.

39:53

If only she had been a

39:55

believer. So her mother was not

39:57

a cure believer. Yeah. But there

40:00

was... gratitude in her eyes to be

40:02

freed from her suffering. So Sissy says.

40:04

So say Sissy. And then she says, I

40:06

didn't even get to say goodbye. And

40:08

your studies were more important. Mr.

40:10

Egan saw Keer in you. She

40:12

was at the Myrtle Egan School.

40:14

We've seen photos of Cobell at

40:16

this child's school for Keer. And

40:18

so yeah, she was. Like Hogwarts.

40:20

Kind of like a really lame

40:22

Hogwarts. Yeah. But unfortunately she was

40:25

here, she didn't even get to

40:27

say goodbye to her poor mom.

40:29

It was more like the, what's

40:31

the Belgian one or whatever,

40:33

like that where Victor Crumb

40:35

is from? Oh, derm strang.

40:38

Yeah, it was more like

40:40

a derm strang. That's a

40:42

total derm strang. She apprenticed

40:44

at the factory. She was

40:46

part of winter tide, tide,

40:48

which we've heard mentioned to

40:51

Huang. And then she says,

40:53

what did drummen to tell

40:55

you? Did you see? I'm

40:57

so dumb. There's a shot

40:59

where Sissy is holding what

41:01

is a Keerstone. So it's like

41:03

just a rock with Keer's face painted

41:06

on it. I didn't catch the clock,

41:08

but that was trying to figure out

41:10

what that was. I thought she was

41:13

holding something that the key was inside

41:15

and then she runs upstairs. I'm like,

41:17

what are we doing here? Well, I

41:20

think she sees the keer stone and

41:22

there's like, oh, I'll go check her

41:24

keer shrine up in her room. Yeah,

41:27

she's got all kinds of weird

41:29

keer shit up in her room.

41:31

Yeah, she's got all kinds of

41:33

weird, I thought she was holding

41:35

like a baseball, like a baseball.

41:37

The Bay Bay, Bay, Ruth. Why

41:39

don't you just ask for it

41:41

back? It's just James Earl Jones

41:44

in there with Sissy. He comes

41:46

out. Like a girl. This is

41:48

what happened the year we played

41:50

baseball. And then Erica was like,

41:52

is that a jade egg? Good guess.

41:54

I didn't catch, I just thought it

41:56

was a rock. I didn't know what

41:59

it was. Like, don't go up into my room.

42:01

Only pain will you find there. Thanks, Yoda. And Sissie's room

42:03

has all kinds of creepy cure shit. If she goes through

42:05

it all, it does quickly find the key. I was pausing

42:07

this shit, looking up all the stuff that was in there.

42:09

We got paper mache of the four temper heads that are

42:11

pretty obvious, I think. There's a newspaper. She

42:14

has her own waffle parties. Oh for

42:16

time, you know, Sissie gets down at

42:18

the waffle party. She's, she's like, she's

42:20

like, she's like, she's like, she's like,

42:22

she's like, she's like, she's like, she's

42:24

like, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's,

42:26

she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's,

42:28

she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's,

42:30

she's, she's, she's, She's like, I love

42:32

them. I play, whoa. Waffles, waffles, waffles.

42:34

There's a newspaper headline clipping for Jane

42:36

Egan assuming the CEO role at Lumen.

42:38

There's a poster that says work life

42:40

balance, which I thought was funny.

42:43

There's a little playing card

42:45

for probity. So she's also

42:47

probities. There are four Lumen

42:49

Blue Candles. There's a Lumen

42:51

Industries Miracle. headline, but below

42:53

it also says open the

42:56

door, which I found cryptic

42:58

and what does that mean?

43:00

Probably the birth of severance,

43:02

right? I assume so. There are a bunch of

43:04

ether factory patches like lumen ether

43:07

factory patches that are hung up

43:09

in different places. Some of them

43:11

have an eye, a running man

43:13

or a mouth on them. There's

43:15

a card for cheer. There's a

43:17

table with more cards for vision,

43:20

verve, probity, benevolence on there. There's

43:22

also a... I think it's a

43:24

humpback whale vertebrae bone that's on

43:26

top of that plate, which was

43:28

kind of weird, because there's also

43:30

a humpback whale vertebrae in the

43:33

back, and it's like, weird, why

43:35

should you get all this humpback

43:37

whale shit? But yeah, a lot

43:39

of, a lot of, oh, and also

43:42

when she moves Keier's photo

43:44

back, there's a card that

43:46

says you must cut to be

43:48

healed. Something like that. But she

43:50

finds the key. She does. She gets

43:52

to her mother's room, which is not a

43:54

reveal. You know, it's just, it's the

43:57

bad, but it looks like a hostage.

43:59

She's not here. It's got all these

44:01

mothy, mothy clothes, the way the sun

44:03

is in there makes it look like

44:05

this epic moment of goodbye for her.

44:07

I assume she hasn't been in there

44:09

since her mother was alive. So there's

44:11

a photo of young her in there too.

44:14

There is. Her mother was gazing upon her

44:16

as she shuffled loose this mortal coil.

44:18

And then she takes a nap, which is

44:20

really rude to Hampton, I felt

44:22

like. Well, she's overcome. Well, first

44:24

she puts the two ban and

44:26

moans into it for a minute

44:29

and the moans become the music,

44:31

which is really weird. It was

44:33

so haunting and cool. We get

44:35

more top-down shots of the cold harbor.

44:37

And then she takes a nap. And

44:39

that cool shot of the, as she's

44:41

napping, the light kind of passing over

44:44

the room to show the passage

44:46

of time was really neat. I

44:48

like that shot. And then Hampton

44:50

comes in, he's like, hey, it's

44:52

been four hours. I got I

44:54

got a family I got to

44:56

get home too. I'm not this

44:58

pro bitty. Let's get out of

45:00

here. I love when he enters

45:02

this room because the captions pick

45:04

up with Sissy and here saying

45:06

below and it's so funny because

45:08

Sissy says no salutation here. You've

45:10

no salutation here you blighted snuff

45:12

slave. And then Walter says I miss

45:14

you too. You smell like crow skin. It's

45:17

a good exchange. You smell like

45:19

crow skin. It sounds like a,

45:21

what's it, a shuffling nerve hurt her?

45:23

Oh, yeah. Sounds like that. A scruffy

45:25

looking nerve hurt her. Yeah, it's a

45:27

Star Wars slur. But he came to

45:30

get her and she's like, no, I

45:32

have to find it. Give me a

45:34

moment. You've had a lot of time.

45:36

You know what helps me when I

45:38

can't find the keys? I get high. You

45:40

want to get high? He's like, I liked

45:42

her talking about her mom and she's like,

45:44

you hardly knew her. Well, she hated looming

45:46

more than I did. That was enough for

45:48

me. Want to get high? She doesn't have

45:50

to live with Sissy anymore. That's funny. Got

45:52

her. It's snort stuff. They high five and

45:54

then they get high. I haven't done that

45:56

since I was eight. She says after she

45:58

huffs a big huff. He replies, ready to

46:01

man the VAT for 10 hours? So

46:03

yeah, they were eight years old. Just

46:05

cuff and ether. And that's, is that,

46:07

is that the implication like why everyone

46:09

in town is addicted ether? Because they

46:11

were all child labors getting, like working

46:13

at this heat, ether factory? For sure.

46:15

And just getting high all the time

46:17

working there? For sure. That's so fucked

46:19

up. And then she says, it's shameful that

46:21

you sell it. And he's like, well.

46:23

Judgey Mcjuderson. But I like a

46:26

bad boy. They kiss. And he says,

46:28

I don't think it's here, what you're

46:30

looking for. And then says he starts

46:32

yelling to get out of there. Get

46:34

the hell out of there. You know,

46:37

I can't make it up the stairs.

46:39

And she wouldn't throw it away. And

46:41

then she has a moment of epiphany

46:43

and goes outside and there's a hobbit

46:46

hole. She hasn't been in there since

46:48

her 11th birthday. It's where she's storing

46:50

all the stuff that she said she

46:52

sold to the poor. It was what

46:54

it looks like to me, including a

46:57

yearbook called annual reminiscences. That's so funny

46:59

that the yearbook is called an annual

47:01

reminiscences. Did you see that the team,

47:03

the school mascot were the kids,

47:06

like goat kids? No. Because they're

47:08

like, go fighting kids for the

47:10

field hockey team. Oh, kids as

47:12

in goats. Oh, nice. Baby goats.

47:15

And I thought this is interesting

47:17

is they actually, if you pause and

47:19

like, look at all the stuff

47:21

that's going on. So Cobell was

47:24

captain of the school field

47:26

hockey team. And it shows their

47:28

win loss record and what

47:30

schools they competed against.

47:32

Gans and a couple of

47:35

these towns we've heard about

47:37

throughout the show. Like they

47:39

list all that was like

47:41

Centerville, Northfield, Ridgeway, Shorewood, Providence,

47:43

Lakewood, Winter Point, Deepwater, Pine

47:45

Coast, Keer, Bridgeport, I think we've

47:47

heard about, Rock Isle, Gans, Oyster Bay,

47:49

and Prossport. So those are all the towns

47:51

that they play, if you. And these are

47:54

all lumen towns, you assume? Like, it's

47:56

kind of neat that they're all in

47:58

there that they're all in there. She

48:00

has, there's a bust of Jane

48:02

Egan, it looks like, and inside

48:05

the hide-holl of the bust

48:07

is her weed. Her designs.

48:09

She goes back in and

48:11

talks to Sissy. Oh, real

48:13

quick. I cannot let this

48:15

conversation go any further without

48:17

pointing out that not only

48:19

was she captain of the

48:21

field hockey team, not only

48:23

was she valedictorian for the

48:25

year of Wiles. graduating class.

48:27

Not only was she a

48:29

winter tide fellowship recipient, but

48:31

she was also president

48:33

of the Goat Husbandry Club. A, an

48:36

auspicious award. Oh, fuck. The Goat, Husbandry.

48:38

There is a fucking with everybody with

48:40

the goats. I'm gonna have to hear

48:42

so much more goat shit after this

48:44

week. But Sissy. What is husbandry?

48:47

It's like, uh, it's a, well, I remember

48:49

playing Roonscape and you'd have to level

48:51

it up. I think it's the taking

48:53

care of like farm animals, like. The

48:56

cure cultivation and breeding of

48:58

crops and animals. Yeah, because

49:00

a brand of goats in

49:02

that episode talked about like

49:04

Miss Casey's wellness sessions would

49:07

take place in their husbandry

49:09

tanks. Okay. Nice. So she goes back

49:11

in and tells Sissy, you better not

49:14

stitch, right? I would never bear

49:16

falsity to the steward of egans.

49:18

Well, God damn it. That's exactly

49:20

what I'm asking you to do,

49:22

you know. And she's like, you

49:24

owe them your fealty. And she

49:26

says, fealty. Mine. These were

49:28

my designs. So Kobe invented severance.

49:30

And Sissy plays a fast one.

49:33

She's like, oh, this is interesting.

49:35

I don't record it. Which is

49:37

too slow. Why does she ever

49:39

even hand that shit to Sissy?

49:41

Seriously. I would have been like,

49:44

look at my designs. Look, no

49:46

touch. No touch. But these are

49:48

mine. That's the woman that raised

49:50

her. One of a woman. Yeah, well,

49:52

we assume her mother died

49:55

pretty young. Well, older than

49:57

eight. Yeah. Still pretty young.

50:00

She was already had a full-time job

50:02

and was and I drove it. She

50:04

was fine. She was got a 401kandies

50:06

factory. Come on. And then Sissy and

50:08

her anger says her hand, it was

50:10

her hand that removed the tube, not

50:12

mine. Your mother was a coward. I

50:15

thought harmony was going to kill her

50:17

and I was kind of hoping. But

50:19

then we hear Hampton Shout. Someone's coming.

50:21

And he just gives her his truck.

50:23

He's a real one. Catch around. I

50:25

don't know what I'm gonna do. There's

50:27

no obers here. The really long log

50:30

is pretty cold out here. But I

50:32

mean, contain these tempers assholes. That line

50:34

so good. But Harmony literally says like

50:36

she didn't come forward and tell people

50:39

that these were her designs because if

50:41

she had sought credit, she would be

50:43

banished. Yeah. And that's like a legit

50:45

fear. That's a big reason why people

50:47

who do grow up in cults or

50:50

like they stay a lot longer than

50:52

maybe they want to. And it's just

50:54

so insidious that they, not only do

50:56

they steal this woman's design, but

50:59

then James Egan's like, that was

51:01

me all along. This fed and

51:03

mopit didn't say anything about. Severant,

51:06

that was all happening in my

51:08

old nuggin. You better not hide

51:10

the originals in my bust hole.

51:12

The last, that's the last place

51:14

they would look. I'll be sad.

51:16

They're literally gonna hide, she

51:18

literally hid the designs in James

51:20

Egan's head. Ah. I

51:23

love this. While she's driving in

51:25

his truck, Devin calls a

51:28

third time. Mrs. Selvik, she

51:30

calls her. I need your help. She

51:32

tells her some of what's going

51:34

on. Is Mark there? Put him

51:36

on. And you hear him, he's just

51:38

like, hello? Tell me everything.

51:40

Tell me everything. Then firewoman

51:42

by the cult plays in

51:45

the background. Hell yeah. But away

51:47

to end. It should have been the

51:49

cure. Because she's, well, coming back with her

51:51

medical knowledge, you know? Or she's a firewoman

51:53

from a cult. Show me, show me, show

51:55

me how you do that trick. Magic Credit's

51:57

role, you're happy. I'm never gonna be upset.

51:59

at the Cure playing. There was some good

52:02

soundtrack in this episode. I'm hyped for

52:04

nine. The nine. Number nine. Number nine. I think

52:06

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And we're back, it's time to hear

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our, Kier's three mandates, our top

54:40

three favorite moments of the episode.

54:42

I had a, so typically I like mark

54:44

things as like, that's gonna be one

54:47

of them. Oh, like an asterisk? Yeah. This

54:49

time, I, like in the experience

54:51

of watching it the first time, I

54:53

didn't, nothing struck me until like the

54:55

like the end. that of like something

54:58

that was like all that thing. So

55:00

my number three says, I don't know,

55:02

then getting high or something. Just because

55:04

I was like, I don't know, like

55:07

that sequence, this whole episode felt like

55:09

a fever dream to me. And so

55:11

then when they sat down and got

55:14

high, I was just like, okay, you

55:16

know, I love harmony, you know, letting

55:18

her hair down a little bit. So

55:20

yeah, that's my number three. It's

55:23

a great moment, Steve. My number

55:25

three is just one line. That

55:27

was a very much like a

55:29

sit forward like hell yeah, get

55:31

him Hampton Hampton Which did you

55:33

guys notice up to that point?

55:36

She never says his name until

55:38

that moment in the episode The

55:40

credits refer to him. It's referred

55:42

to him as the waiter the

55:44

entire episode until right then

55:47

and there. So nice little reveal

55:49

there My number three is Andy's

55:51

number three, but it's just Hampton

55:54

saying want to get high That's

55:56

it. That's one number three. Andy, your number

55:58

two? Number two is. The very end,

56:00

the phone call from Devin and

56:03

Cobell telling Mark to tell her

56:05

everything because her character has been

56:07

completely reframed for me. So her

56:09

saying, tell me everything. It's like

56:11

she is this fucking wealth of

56:14

knowledge that I didn't know about

56:16

this entire time. And I'm like, she

56:18

knows fucking ends and outs of

56:20

their deepest, darkest secrets. So when

56:22

I like, I got chills for

56:24

some reason when she said, tell

56:26

me everything. I was just like,

56:28

she joined the Avengers. This is

56:30

fucking dope. Harmony Cabell, welcome to

56:33

the Resistance. Simmel, bitch. This is

56:35

like when winter soldier turned to

56:37

the good side, you know? Oh, yeah,

56:39

bucky. Bucky bones. Is there any

56:41

word in how many seasons they

56:43

plan for this? For severance? Correct.

56:45

I only know that at least

56:48

one more, because they greenlet season

56:50

three. Okay. I don't know much

56:52

beyond that. What's your number two,

56:54

Steve? My number two is the the

56:57

breathing tube crying scene. Because yeah, there's

56:59

something, because it's fucking weird, right? Like

57:01

the whole time when she's plugging it

57:04

up and I'm like, don't put that

57:06

in your mouth. Don't put that in

57:08

your mouth. Don't, don't put that, oh,

57:11

she did it, fine. Okay, don't breathe,

57:13

oh, she's breathing, God damn it. But

57:15

I do like, this character is a

57:17

little bit of an odd bird, right?

57:20

She's an odd lady, and, but she's

57:22

racked with this guilt for the loss

57:24

for the loss for the loss of

57:26

her mom passed away. And she's been

57:28

holding on to that for a

57:31

long time. So just her doing

57:33

that, there was something. It

57:35

was humanizing because I

57:37

would never do that because I

57:40

think that's gross. But like the

57:42

way you almost kind of see

57:44

her regress into that eight year

57:46

old girl who just misses her

57:49

mom and she's in so much pain.

57:51

throwing into that windpipe and the

57:53

way it transitions into the music

57:55

and the score, it was just

57:57

very ghostly and spooky and just

57:59

like, ooh. That's crazy. And then you

58:01

get that cool light transition shot. I

58:03

don't know. I really, I appreciated

58:05

that. My number two is when

58:07

Cobell confronts Sissy with the

58:10

designs she got from the bust and

58:12

this huge revelation that she is

58:14

the one that invented Severance. I mean,

58:16

like you guys have said, that

58:18

changes the context of so much

58:20

that we've seen throughout the show

58:22

that already has a wild context

58:24

to get used to. And it was

58:26

a great moment. And the episode was

58:28

a little. slower and strange and off

58:31

putting off pudding so it just kind

58:33

of hit with even more weight like

58:35

oh this is the juice that we're

58:37

here for it I just I just

58:40

hit the ether of this episode yeah

58:42

it feels good that's my number two

58:44

Andy that's my number one well

58:46

just like I was like what when

58:49

it fucking dropped I was like I

58:51

don't know I did not see I

58:53

don't think anybody could have seen that

58:55

fucking coming that Miss Cobell fucking

58:58

invented severance like that's

59:00

insane that she's a woman Andy a fun

59:02

twist no because she was fucking middle management

59:04

and just had a weird obsession she made

59:06

shitty cookies and like yeah she's not a

59:08

baker what what could they I don't know

59:10

I got to go back and watch and

59:12

like have they been hinting at this all

59:15

along like I don't know this is crazy

59:17

I think the best I mean Kit mentioned

59:19

at the top of the show but I

59:21

think the best sort of inclination or hint

59:23

that she was behind it was just her

59:25

insistence and curiosity and curiosity into the whole

59:27

of reintegration And actually went

59:29

in and just took that shit

59:32

out of PD's head. You know what I

59:34

mean? Yeah, she kept the shit. Yeah. This

59:36

is PT. That's my, that's my number

59:38

one moment as well. I like

59:40

everything you said, it opens up

59:42

the whole show. But I also

59:44

love the emotional character moments

59:46

of the scene as well, where

59:48

she's like, you know, the base

59:50

code over time contingency, the Glasgow

59:52

block, all of it is mine.

59:54

And Sissy just kind of like.

59:57

Being honestly I read it that she

59:59

was generally a press, but then like

1:00:01

revert it back to cult mode.

1:00:03

Like, oh, no, this would be

1:00:05

bad for the cult. Yes. Miegel

1:00:07

came out for a second. Yeah.

1:00:09

But she went full golf. Which

1:00:11

is why I think if she

1:00:14

let her hold it, because she

1:00:16

was like, oh, you're smiegel? Mm-hmm.

1:00:18

And then she better finger off.

1:00:20

We don't need you. Because it

1:00:22

was, it was pity that stayed

1:00:24

her back with the whole like,

1:00:26

oh, your mom. took the tube

1:00:28

out, she's a coward. But then

1:00:30

Sissy hits her with, and I

1:00:32

think this is a really big

1:00:34

motivator for her, is like, you

1:00:36

were my flower, you were the

1:00:39

chosen one, I try to help

1:00:41

you grow, but you're a weed,

1:00:43

just like your mom, like, oh,

1:00:45

like that's just the way. When

1:00:47

your mom sits around the house,

1:00:49

she sits around the house harmony.

1:00:51

She's hit her with a bunch

1:00:53

of classic your mom jokes. Yeah,

1:00:55

your mom was so dumb. Your

1:00:57

mom is so cowardly she pulled

1:00:59

out her breathing tube. Oh shit.

1:01:02

You take that back. You take

1:01:04

that back. My number one is

1:01:06

when she calls Devin, our answer

1:01:08

is the call from Devin and

1:01:10

put Mark on, tells me because

1:01:12

it's so filled with promise and

1:01:14

it's such a great twist that

1:01:16

it was so satisfying because it

1:01:18

is damning evidence against the Devin's

1:01:20

a double agent crew and I

1:01:22

can't wait. I'm just going to

1:01:24

wink. Just follow you, just listen

1:01:27

to you. Your boy, daddy's got

1:01:29

this. I love it when Petty

1:01:31

Kit comes out. I love the

1:01:33

concept though of Devin's been severed

1:01:35

all along and she just doesn't

1:01:37

know it. I think that that

1:01:39

would be fucking wild. To what

1:01:41

end? I don't know. It was

1:01:43

Devin all along. Conceptually it's a

1:01:45

fun twist and if anybody could

1:01:47

pull that off it would be

1:01:49

these writers. I did, I gave

1:01:52

him a little rope and like

1:01:54

look if they did that they

1:01:56

would, they would. But yeah, I

1:01:58

think so many of the theories

1:02:00

about the show tend to be...

1:02:02

Ooh, wouldn't that be surprising? Yeah,

1:02:04

because it doesn't make any sense.

1:02:06

It would be surprising if everyone

1:02:08

exploded. That's not enough for a

1:02:10

good story. Somebody can surprise you

1:02:12

by going, boo, out of nowhere.

1:02:14

Doesn't mean it was well thought

1:02:17

out. There's some TV show that

1:02:19

was pretty recent that ended with

1:02:21

basically spontaneous combustion. Was it the

1:02:23

movie spontaneous? No, they canceled the

1:02:25

series after that cliffhanger of an

1:02:27

ending. Fucking wild. Well, that's the

1:02:29

end of our favorite moments, our

1:02:31

Q's three mandates. Now it's time

1:02:33

to give out the waffle parties.

1:02:35

Does anyone have the balls to

1:02:37

give it to anyone other than

1:02:40

Patricia Arquette? Well, you see Sissy

1:02:42

loves waffle parties. She does. But

1:02:44

she works some, so 100% Patricia

1:02:46

Arquette. She works the waffle parties.

1:02:48

This is the most one-sided waffle

1:02:50

party ever. Patricia Arquette. Yeah. Or

1:02:52

she's incredible. John Voi. The guy

1:02:54

at the bus. I forget. Like

1:02:56

I said at the beginning of

1:02:58

the episode, like Patricia Arquette has

1:03:00

some of the most wild dialogue

1:03:02

ever, like some of the things

1:03:05

she says is so bananas left

1:03:07

field and crazy. But the way

1:03:09

she says it and the way

1:03:11

the way she plays the character

1:03:13

and the way the show is

1:03:15

written, you know, she can say

1:03:17

the most bananas thing, but it

1:03:19

hits. You're like, you get what

1:03:21

she means. And you just kind

1:03:23

of nod with her with her.

1:03:25

And just the way she like

1:03:27

moans into that breathing tube you

1:03:30

feel the pain and Like even

1:03:32

when she's getting a little high

1:03:34

with Hampton, you're just kind of

1:03:36

like okay. Yeah, like I get

1:03:38

Like we've never met this character

1:03:40

Hampton, but the But I'm sold

1:03:42

on their past relationship because of

1:03:44

the both of them acting honestly,

1:03:46

but really Patricia Arquette in particular

1:03:48

really sort of sells the relationship

1:03:50

to the town to Sissy to

1:03:53

all these things. We don't know

1:03:55

anything about going into this episode.

1:03:57

And I think if she's not

1:03:59

there to be the audience surrogate,

1:04:01

it doesn't necessarily work as well.

1:04:03

And I guess it didn't work

1:04:05

on. for you Andy, but like

1:04:07

for me at least like her

1:04:09

performance sells a lot of what's

1:04:11

going on in this episode. Interesting,

1:04:13

do you know the name of

1:04:15

the company that lumen cells, there

1:04:18

is a company that sells, there

1:04:20

is a company that sells polyethylene

1:04:22

glycole monomethal ether chemical used as

1:04:24

plasticizer lubricant and more. It's called

1:04:26

Hampton Research. Oh, that's a nice

1:04:28

little Easter egg. An ether salesman.

1:04:30

Interesting. Interesting. I'm going to do

1:04:32

more ether deep dives. It's called

1:04:34

KY Jelly. I'm going to have

1:04:36

to get method with this. I

1:04:38

solved the show. I solved severance.

1:04:40

But that ends our coverage of

1:04:43

episode 8. Tune in next week

1:04:45

for episode 9, but don't forget

1:04:47

about yellow jackets. Yeah, but also

1:04:49

don't forget. You guys have a

1:04:51

wellness session. Oh my goodness, I

1:04:53

always do forget. Let's turn the

1:04:55

nature sounds on. Who wants to

1:04:57

go first this week? I'll go

1:04:59

first. I'll go first. Just include

1:05:01

a tanky soaked in either. Here.

1:05:03

And a waffle party. That's all

1:05:05

I want. Thank you. Andy, here's

1:05:08

yours. I think it's only right

1:05:10

that the scent we use and

1:05:12

the ether sent it. Let me

1:05:14

put that in. Let's turn the

1:05:16

nature sounds on. Who wants to

1:05:18

go first this week? I'll go

1:05:20

first. Kit. Let me share with

1:05:22

you a couple facts about your

1:05:24

Audi, because he's a truly remarkable

1:05:26

person. These facts should bring you

1:05:28

great satisfaction, so just relax, stay

1:05:31

open, smell that ether, and try

1:05:33

to, try to appreciate each fact

1:05:35

equally. Are you ready? Sorry, I'm

1:05:37

high. I'm gonna assume that means

1:05:39

yes. Kit, your Audi always remembers

1:05:41

to turn off the stove after

1:05:43

cooking. Your outy

1:05:45

instinctively knows which Tupperware lids fits

1:05:47

each container Your outy never leaves

1:05:49

a drunk coaster stuck to the

1:05:51

bottom of their cup personally like

1:05:54

when you pick up a cup

1:05:56

in the Coaster sticks to the

1:05:58

cusp. He doesn't do that because

1:06:00

his outing is so. Please don't

1:06:02

interrupt my facts. Yeah, Audi, or

1:06:04

Annie. Get out of here. Get

1:06:06

out of here. Get out of

1:06:09

here. Get out of here. You

1:06:11

can tell when a pen is

1:06:13

about to run out of ink,

1:06:15

because he's a writer. And lastly,

1:06:17

if you were in a sinking

1:06:19

car, what would be scary? You're

1:06:21

struggling to break for your sinking

1:06:24

to the unknown depths. Taking

1:06:27

the unknown depth. Oh, okay. For

1:06:29

sure. Marking that down for the

1:06:31

MDR people. Andy, are you ready

1:06:34

for your wellness session? I'm so

1:06:36

ready. All right. Before we start,

1:06:38

take a big hove at either.

1:06:41

Thank you. Thank you. Andy. Your

1:06:43

Audi always remembers which side of

1:06:45

the car their gas cap is

1:06:47

on. Maybe it helps that they

1:06:50

market. Actually, I didn't know about

1:06:52

that until maybe four years ago.

1:06:54

Same. But if you look at

1:06:57

the gas meter, the little gas

1:06:59

icon, there's an arrow pointing to

1:07:01

which side of the car that

1:07:04

caps on. And I did not

1:07:06

know that until like four years

1:07:08

ago. But Andy's out, he knew

1:07:11

that. He just knew. Instinctually. Your

1:07:13

outi can also fold a burrito

1:07:15

so the filling never falls out.

1:07:18

Your outy always checks for

1:07:20

a second page when printing

1:07:22

documents You don't want to

1:07:24

leave that page in there

1:07:26

for someone else to find

1:07:28

Your outy always shakes the

1:07:30

salad dressing before pouring it

1:07:32

and Lastly if you were

1:07:34

stuck in space what would

1:07:36

scare you more drifting away

1:07:38

endlessly or being trapped in

1:07:40

a failing spaceship drifting away

1:07:42

endlessly The sandy B I

1:07:44

get it even though she

1:07:46

didn't do that in gravity.

1:07:48

I don't know what I

1:07:50

said. Well that concludes you

1:07:52

guys well in this session.

1:07:54

I hope you feel better.

1:07:56

More probity than before. I'm

1:07:58

always probity. you what that

1:08:00

wraps up our coverage of

1:08:02

severance episode 8 that's all

1:08:04

the time we've got for

1:08:06

right now we've got to

1:08:08

go return some videotapes my

1:08:11

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1:08:13

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