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Today, we welcome one of my favorite

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I'm very lucky to say is one of my favorite

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friends We have Ellie Schnitt here with

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us, a fellow New Yorker and

2:23

a resident Taylor Swift fan. She

2:25

currently has two amazing shows that you

2:28

should be listening to, but she does

2:30

killer talk on she streams

2:32

it on Twitch, and then she has late night drive available

2:34

everywhere podcasts

2:35

are. So Ellie, Talk to

2:37

us about your podcasts. Well,

2:40

hi, Sydnee. First of all, so happy to be

2:42

here. Glad to be here with you.

2:45

Glad we got this to to work.

2:48

What is this our fifth time trying? I

2:50

think was better than last time when your mic wasn't

2:52

plugged

2:53

in. No. Like three different times, I think.

2:56

Yeah. And Ellie is quite literally

2:58

one of the funniest people I've ever met,

3:00

and you just need to listen to anything

3:03

that she does because it's not her

3:04

trying. She is just effortlessly that

3:07

funny

3:08

thing. And I've I was just

3:10

telling yummy yummy yummy. I've never watched

3:13

a stream before. Like, I've never used

3:15

Twitch or anything, and I'm like, I need her to show

3:18

me how to do it just so I can watch her

3:19

streams. It's

3:20

a very useful area. I promise.

3:23

Well, we thought this was gonna be simple,

3:25

and we had to jump through I like, I'm

3:27

just gonna listen to this. like, oh, it's just another,

3:30

like, dating podcast episode.

3:31

No. It was war. We went through a

3:33

lot to get here. So everyone

3:35

should be very appreciative. I would have like

3:37

PTSD.

3:39

Every time I'm, like, trying to, like, plug something into

3:41

my computer. But so Ellie and I both live

3:43

in New York City and we met through,

3:45

like, the boat sort of like a work

3:47

friend. That's how I describe her. She's lovely,

3:49

and Ellie gets

3:51

recognized quite a lot. Mhmm. We're

3:54

out and it always oh, I guess I

3:56

do. Every time we're

3:57

together, but they do not normally. I

3:59

think it's you. Like, it's you

4:01

know, they like recognize Ellie, and it

4:03

always cracks me up because I'll never forget.

4:06

We were it

4:06

was, like, the first time it was it was a year ago,

4:08

actually, which is crazy.

4:09

It is crazy.

4:10

And we were sitting

4:12

outside at, like, one of, like, the little, like, outdoor

4:14

seating things that they have in New York because of

4:16

COVID. And these

4:18

guys were in, like, they were, like, like, six of us.

4:20

And then this group of guys was, like, in the one

4:23

that was sort of connected to us. And

4:25

you hear them, like, we were getting ready

4:27

leave, and you can see them all turn to, like,

4:29

watch us, like, walk away. And they go,

4:32

oh my god. Guys, Helly

4:34

And they're, like, they start, like, freaking out and

4:36

like, oh, I've never seen a group of

4:38

boys, fangirl so much. And it was

4:40

but of course, like Sydnee went over and talked

4:42

to them. And we were like Sydnee. Like,

4:45

we're going. They're

4:45

like, they wanna meet up later. Like,

4:48

take me, they're strangers. Stranger danger

4:50

is a real thing. See,

4:53

I just hope for the best. Like,

4:55

I see that if there was not

4:57

more lore on it, I would probably

4:59

hitchhike. Like the girl that we ran

5:02

into on the street, David, I've hung out with

5:04

her. She was really cool. You hung out with her?

5:06

She

5:07

No. No. No. No. No. No. That's Multiple

5:09

times. Yeah. Her and I, we've gotten

5:11

lotsy, and she told me this story about

5:13

her crazy ex boyfriend. Who

5:16

I guess, like, long story short, but the reason

5:18

that they broke up was, like, they got into a fight

5:20

at the

5:20

like, due west.

5:22

Oh, yeah. Due west. And you ever done

5:24

due west? Yeah. Let's come out of it. I had

5:26

a friend who did whippets there and thought that the cops

5:28

were gonna just come get them. And then so I was like,

5:30

that doesn't seem like the energy's good if you

5:32

were doing

5:33

whippets. There. Like, I'm like a friend.

5:34

It actually is kind of a fun place, though. I promise

5:36

to pick up on fire. Let's go soon.

5:39

So she tells me though, that we're sitting

5:41

at the Starbucks Reserve. We're just, like, Schnitt chatting and

5:43

whatever. And she goes, so he, like, follows

5:45

me home. And he was, like, why did you

5:47

leave the bar? Like, did you leave? And he she's like,

5:49

I'm not doing this. And then I guess he grabs her

5:51

phone from her. And, like,

5:54

it's like, give me your keys and, like, I'll give

5:56

you your phone. And she was like, I'm not gonna do that. And

5:58

it's like a bunch of people start, like, watching. And

6:01

she's standing there and she throw like, I

6:03

guess, like, he puts her phone down and

6:05

goes, okay, come get your phone and she goes, you gonna

6:07

swipe it if I try to come get it? And he was

6:09

like, no, I would never do that. And she goes to lien

6:11

down to pick it up. I mean, swipe it. And

6:14

he goes, what would you do if I just

6:16

smashed your

6:17

phone, and she goes, I don't know. I'd be, like, a

6:19

little sad. Like, that was kinda

6:21

just being

6:22

People that was sick. Yeah. And so

6:24

he proceeds to throw

6:26

her phone on the ground, stomp

6:28

on

6:28

it, and move his foot back

6:31

and forth while, like, looking at her and

6:33

that tell me broke up. Okay. See,

6:35

this is the thing. I've never had a breakup

6:37

like

6:37

that. And I always wonder, like, what are

6:39

you doing? Like, how do you get to that point

6:41

with a with a significant other --

6:43

Yeah. -- that, like, because, like, theoretically, when you're

6:45

dating, right, you meet somebody and

6:47

you like them, there's qualities about them that you

6:49

like, and you wanna continue hanging out with them. Like,

6:52

how do you get to a point of, like, that

6:54

much just like hatred. Clear

6:56

just like evil, you know.

6:58

And apparently it was she said the weirdest part

7:00

of it is out of nowhere, but Speaking

7:03

of random encounters, do you know who

7:05

I ran into, by the way, who

7:07

on Saturday night with this

7:09

girl? Can't believe you met up with this girl. I

7:11

ran into the guy who

7:13

I referred to in our it should be like

7:15

a few times out. She's really cool. But

7:18

I read into the guy who I referred to

7:20

as minor

7:21

league. Oh, this

7:21

guy with the high school boy.

7:24

This guy with

7:25

the back with the backpack girl. She

7:27

was We don't know that she was in a house.

7:29

Yes, with the backpack,

7:30

girl. But yeah. It's it's not

7:33

totally out of the

7:34

realm of possibility. Gonna horrifying.

7:36

Yeah.

7:36

I'm not gonna rule it out just yet. But

7:38

I ran into him on

7:40

Saturday night and he, like, grabs me and

7:42

he was, like, trying to, like, close me and I was, like,

7:44

at at Bleecker Street pizza. Oh, not at

7:46

Bleecker Street pizza.

7:48

Broke at Bleecker Street pizza. have actually

7:50

gotten grilled in the USA Pizza.

7:54

That's actually a formative experience. Folks

7:56

come to New York. Oh my

7:58

god. Okay. We're gonna we'll chat about that.

8:01

The the later date. But speaking of

8:03

random encounters, also

8:05

guys, for fairly big context, this

8:07

will be a very casual episode because Ellie

8:10

and I just love to So

8:12

you're just really getting, like, a look into

8:15

personalities and some fun stories we have

8:17

to share and to really sort of rip

8:19

the band and

8:19

off. Ellie, I would love to hear about

8:21

your most recent date. You've

8:24

told me

8:24

very little and none of it makes

8:26

sense. So please share

8:28

whenever you have a moment. If it makes you

8:30

feel better, it still doesn't make sense to me and I've

8:32

been on the date. It didn't make sense before

8:35

I went on it. It did not make sense during,

8:37

and it did not make sense after. And when I tell

8:39

you what we're doing on the second day, you're gonna

8:41

be like, you're that you're insane

8:43

and maybe gonna get murdered. So so

8:47

Sydney forced me. I mean,

8:50

at gunpoint, I swear on my life.

8:52

To message this man. To

8:56

damn this guy on Twitter.

9:00

Because I was like, I don't think he's really cute, but

9:02

I don't know how to, like, initiate anything because

9:04

we don't actually really know each

9:05

other. And she's like, just DM him. By the

9:07

way, we'd had some wine at this point. So

9:09

I sent him a message.

9:10

It's also four thirty. Just By the way, no.

9:12

It is, like, four forty five in the afternoon.

9:15

Like, the sun has not gone down. Things

9:17

are getting weird of. So III

9:20

down this guy. I'm like, hey, I know this is

9:22

random, but I think you're really cute.

9:25

Would you wanna grab drinks sometime?

9:27

Which is exactly what told me to say, by the way,

9:29

word for word. Like, I did not come up with this. Okay?

9:32

Like, this was I did do that. Right.

9:34

So he says yes

9:36

because he's a man and they're easy.

9:38

I don't know why I thought he would say no, by the way.

9:40

I guess I was scared he had a girlfriend, but that is actually

9:43

something really funny that I need to tell you later in

9:45

the story. So we

9:48

make plans to go and get a drink. And I'm like

9:50

fantastic. Should be fun. Monday

9:53

night, like, I'm in. I'm I'm down.

9:55

Let's do it. So then about Friday night,

9:57

he messages me on Instagram and he's

9:59

like, So I have a

10:01

more radical date proposal

10:03

if you're down, which by

10:06

the way if a man says this to you.

10:08

You say no. Right? You say

10:10

I'm not down. I have

10:12

never been down. I will never be down.

10:16

But, like, I don't know. I mean, like, a weird spot.

10:18

So I was just like, hit me

10:20

with it. Like, why not? Just to see what

10:22

he says. And on my life, I swear this mangoes.

10:25

Well, if we're gonna have a drink

10:27

anyway, I figure we might we

10:29

might as well have it in a Jacuzzi.

10:34

Did he use the word jacuzzi? Because

10:36

the way that okay. That like, the way that

10:38

people, like, if they say hot tub jacuzzi,

10:41

It does a

10:41

lot. It does.

10:42

And the fact that he said Chacuzzi, I know what

10:44

I need to

10:45

know. Chacuzzi gives sleeves. Okay?

10:47

It does. I'm sorry. Like, it gives, like,

10:50

It gives hot tub

10:51

time machine, like, it's, like, in

10:53

Vegas, like, really unclean, like,

10:55

hot tub that, like, people have sex in. Like,

10:58

that's That's what it was giving. And I was like,

11:01

okay. Like, is there even a hot tub anywhere

11:03

in New York City? Like, I, like, don't even know what you're talking

11:05

about, thinking maybe he had to add his apartment or

11:07

something like that. But no, he

11:09

sends me a link and he's like, I just really

11:11

have wanted to try out this this place because

11:13

I've never been. He sends me a link to this place

11:16

called Bathhouse. And it's in Williamsburg.

11:19

Do you know what

11:19

bathhouses? It's just like, there's

11:22

a really nice one in TriBeCa. I know air,

11:24

super

11:24

nice one. That's like incredible. Yeah.

11:26

He was like I told him I was like, well, why don't we

11:28

just go to air? So we're not traveling to fucking Brooklyn

11:31

or whatever. And he was like, oh, it's all booked up.

11:33

And I was like, okay. I guess we'll go to fucking

11:35

Williamsburg. So we yes.

11:37

If he wants to go to this back house, I'm like, what the

11:39

fuck you? And my friends are, by the way, like, don't

11:41

go. You know? That's it is creepy.

11:43

He just wants to see you in a bikini, and I'm like,

11:46

Yeah. But it's not like

11:48

I deamed him because I like

11:50

his

11:50

personality. You know?

11:53

Like, I felt it was a fair Jared

11:55

is trying

11:55

to fucking the Williamsbury

11:56

bath. What are we gonna deal with it? I respect. And

11:58

by the way, everyone also told me, like, you're gonna have

12:00

to be ass naked, by the way. I'm like,

12:02

no. I'm not. No. It's not that kind

12:04

of bathhouse. People on the website are wearing

12:07

swimsuits, but I was a little scared that I

12:09

was so and how should we make

12:10

it? Anyway,

12:13

so

12:13

Oh my god. I'm like, this is the weirdest thing. I

12:15

don't know why, but I said yes, because, you

12:18

know, why not? You need a story sometimes. So

12:20

By the way, mind you, I've never met this man. Like, I don't

12:23

know this man. I've seen him one time, like,

12:25

across the party. Like, so

12:27

the date comes, it's Monday I'm excited.

12:29

I'm ready to go. And I'm

12:31

really nervous because obviously, why would I

12:33

not be nervous? Also, in many ways, it

12:35

is the first day I had been on since

12:38

I got my heart broken, like

12:40

three months ago. So there was a lot going

12:42

on here. So we were meeting at this bar beforehand

12:45

to go to the

12:47

bathhouse and it was a block away from

12:49

this guy, this ex his apartment, of

12:51

course. So I'm already like feeling

12:54

crazy. Like, I'm feeling insane at this

12:56

point. I'm like, I I just know

12:58

somehow, like, I'm gonna run into him.

13:00

So I have all this anxiety. Doing

13:02

okay. I'm a little nauseous, but I'm like, you know what?

13:04

I'm always little nauseous when I'm anxious.

13:07

And we're like, truly in the Uber. I'm a

13:09

block away from meeting him. He's already there. I'm a

13:11

block away from this bar. And I

13:13

was like, like, you know

13:15

when you just know, like, oh, there's

13:17

no stopping this. I'm gonna throw up.

13:20

Like, you know the difference between being like,

13:22

oh, I'm I'm uncomfortable. I'm nauseous. I'm nauseous.

13:24

And then it's like, oh, no, no, no,

13:26

no, you need to pull over the car because I'm going

13:28

I'm gonna throw up. Yeah. So I I, like, frantically

13:30

screamed to the Uber. I'm like, can you go over?

13:34

And I, like, run out of the car,

13:36

and I throw up into cash can,

13:38

like, on the street in Williamsburg,

13:40

truly on the same street as

13:42

this guy that I had dated apartment.

13:45

And I'm

13:45

like, this you really said I pictured you with other

13:47

girls and girls and grew up on the street.

13:49

You really

13:50

you really did do that.

13:52

And I had,

13:52

by the way, eaten something very specific so that

13:54

I would have it, like, food in my stomach so that

13:57

I could, like, drink alcohol and, like, hang out with

13:59

this man. No. All came up. Told

14:01

delicious sandwich that I'd eaten. And

14:04

I had stumbled into the liquor store that

14:06

was, like, right there, and I was, like, so

14:07

you guys have any

14:08

water? And, like, a paper towel.

14:12

And this nice, like, older guy who was, like,

14:14

very dad vibes, he told his son, like, run and

14:16

get her some water. And he, like, gave me a paper

14:19

towel and they're like, what happened? I was

14:21

like, I'm going out of date and I'm

14:23

really nervous. And they were like,

14:26

we we probably thought I was wasted. I

14:28

think it was gross. So then III

14:31

went to a I, like, literally, by the way, this is all within

14:34

five minutes. I'm, like, sprinting around. I run

14:36

to, like, the Bottega Next Door. I get a little mini

14:38

toothbrush and some mini, like, travel toothpaste. Like,

14:40

brush my teeth over a garbage can with the water

14:42

bottle on the street. Like,

14:44

really kind of a disaster. And

14:47

then I composed myself. I had texted

14:49

him. I'm gonna be a little late. Mhmm. I didn't expose

14:51

myself, and I just walked

14:53

into the bar, like like nothing

14:56

happened. I

14:58

was like so sorry I'm late. So

15:02

events will start, but then we did

15:04

go to the bathhouse. Were you naked? No.

15:06

I was not naked. Thank God. Thank God. I was

15:08

not naked. Okay. Was was he naked? He

15:10

was not naked, and thank God. No.

15:13

Not not that I but I don't wanna

15:15

see somebody naked in a bathhouse scenario. Yeah.

15:17

There are also like a lot of like naked oh, not

15:19

like naked, but like old men,

15:21

like old Russian men there. It's

15:23

a very strange mix of

15:25

people. Oh, Okay.

15:28

Yeah. No. I see where we're I see the vibe.

15:30

We're curating here. Like,

15:32

it's an upscale place. Like, it's fancy. They

15:34

have, like, Dyson hair dryer in the bathroom.

15:36

You know, like, they're it's a nice place, but,

15:39

yeah, it's a lot of, like, old Slavic

15:41

men. And then, like,

15:43

me and him on this date. Like, it was very weird.

15:47

And yeah, basically the second I got into

15:49

well, we went into the warm tub. There's a warm

15:50

tub, a hot tub and a cold tub. The men were

15:52

in the cold tub, so didn't go

15:54

in. I have a lot of questions about that. So

15:56

many questions and actually kind of don't wanna

15:59

know. So we in the warm tub and

16:01

then we went in the hot tub and immediately getting the hot tub

16:03

and he tries to kiss me. And

16:05

I was like, I just met you.

16:08

When we don't know. I don't know. We

16:10

talked for, like, three minutes. Like, I I don't

16:12

know you, but I still did it.

16:14

And I don't really know what happened. At that

16:16

point, At that point, it

16:18

was just like, I don't know. Like, we

16:21

made out of budget. Fucking the warm tub.

16:23

No. No.

16:25

There was kissing. No. Look at me shocked.

16:28

Did you fucking the warm tub? I did

16:30

not fucking the warm tub. I fucking the

16:32

hot. Tub, and it's different. No. I didn't.

16:34

I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't

16:38

I didn't win for Bray era. But

16:41

no. And we We

16:43

were yeah. So we were

16:46

yeah. We made out a lot. There was some,

16:48

I don't know, touching. I don't know. But I was, like,

16:51

okay. This is super weird, but

16:53

okay. And he's like a cool guy. You know, we talked

16:55

a little bit more after there was kissing, you know, and he's

16:58

really smart. He's not a criminal.

17:00

Which I was concerned about. So I did ask

17:02

him, like, a white collar criminal. His

17:05

friends are, but he's

17:06

not Okay. So but, like, are they

17:08

the type to get caught? Or are we, like

17:10

Yeah. No. They've they've been caught. No. Yeah.

17:12

They've been caught. Do

17:13

you think oh, maybe podcast

17:15

idea?

17:18

What is the podcast idea? White

17:20

collar crimes? Yeah. A true

17:22

crime. We go out on dates with

17:24

guys who we know their friends and criminals, so

17:26

we can get the

17:26

truth.

17:27

Yeah. Get the true tea on, like, what happened? See if

17:29

we could implicate anyone else. You know?

17:32

No. And I'll tell you this. He was spilling me

17:34

some tea on these people, and I was like, that

17:36

is interesting. Also, okay. Then he tells

17:38

me while we're There's like a little drawn in the

17:40

place. Mhmm. So we are, like, sitting there and

17:42

I'm, like, they're they had, of course,

17:44

stopped serving food. Me with my empty stomach.

17:46

Drinking like a strawberry lemonade with like shaking

17:49

hands because I, like, had nothing

17:51

in my stomach at this point. And

17:53

He's telling me I was like, well, I was really

17:55

nervous about going on this because it's the first day I've been

17:57

on Sydnee my last break

18:00

up. And he's like, oh, me too. And

18:02

I was like, oh, Like, when was when

18:04

was your

18:04

breakup? You'll not

18:07

guess what this

18:07

man said. How did you not tell me this sooner?

18:10

How did you Because wanted to tell you here

18:13

Jesus. Oh,

18:15

he

18:15

goes, you

18:17

know, Christmas.

18:20

Sorry. How long was the relationship?

18:22

Six months?

18:23

Okay. It's like I mean and apparently,

18:26

she was like in a cult. So

18:28

wait. I just wanna I didn't wanna rewind

18:30

for a second. You were on a date with a guy

18:32

who asked you to go to a Jacuzzi

18:35

for first date. Made out with you in the

18:37

first three minutes, all of

18:39

his friends are or

18:41

financial criminals. Financial criminals

18:43

and his ex girlfriend

18:45

who he broke up with or got broken up with?

18:47

Possibly, we got broken

18:48

up with. Around Christmas time, was in

18:50

a cult. What

18:52

is his sounding like? Any any

18:54

I'm no mathematician. And here's the thing.

18:57

He is. He's a very smart guy.

18:59

But here's the thing. Here's the thing. Can I tell you something? And this

19:01

is something I truly believe. Yes. If

19:03

use okay. When

19:06

you can see the red flags

19:09

really clearly, when you're like,

19:11

I know that these are red flags.

19:13

Like, I'm so beyond aware.

19:15

That there there are a hundred red

19:17

flags in front of me. I'm skiing through them,

19:19

like, whatever I see them. Like, I feel

19:22

like it's that's where the magic happens. Not

19:24

the magic of like falling in love and being together forever,

19:26

but like the magic of like having lot of fun

19:28

because he's clearly fucking insane.

19:30

Although, did just go through a break up, so I understand

19:33

it. But like, guess what we're doing for our

19:35

fucking second date? Are you going on a hike in

19:37

the upstate with no one around

19:39

and snow sells actually kind of snowed.

19:43

No. He booked us a five star hotel

19:46

room. Oh my god. Wait. Fancy.

19:48

Well, just just literally just because I said

19:50

I love Oh, so you and hotelmates? You

19:52

know, I love hotels. I told them I love hotels and

19:54

I love bathtubs. And he found a hotel with

19:56

like a like a soaking tub. It

19:58

looks like six hundred dollars for one night

20:01

and I feel like a hooker But

20:05

I just think I'm allowed to have some fun.

20:07

You just like you know when you're really not

20:09

sure. Like, I just don't think I'm emotionally

20:11

available right now after the

20:13

heartbreak. So I just You know

20:15

what? If I'm gonna do some weird stuff

20:17

with this guy, if he wants to pay

20:19

for it, like, when am I gonna

20:20

say, no.

20:21

No. Of course not. Absolutely not.

20:23

Never. So are you supporting me even though it's a red

20:25

flag? I am absolutely supporting

20:28

you. I believe in

20:30

women's rights, but I also believe in women's

20:32

wrongs. So

20:33

So true. Yeah. So true. But haven't said anything

20:36

wrong. I'm being really cool. No.

20:38

No. You

20:38

haven't done anything wrong, but saying you could.

20:41

You couldn't you know, I would I would

20:43

support you. I, you know, in

20:45

public, Rider die. Behind

20:47

closed doors? Ride or die. Like, so true. I

20:49

think you deserve it. Especially after who

20:52

who should show my He should stop the scene. Man is

20:54

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23:12

are you feeling by the way? Like, what are your

23:14

I talk a lot of my show about, like,

23:16

getting over heartbreak and things

23:19

I like to do and, like,

23:21

I'm someone that if I really love someone,

23:23

healing takes a very long time for me.

23:26

So, like, what would you what's your

23:28

sort of, like, timeline looking like? Because

23:31

It's been it hasn't been

23:33

too much time. It's been three months,

23:35

I think. Oh my god. I cannot believe

23:36

that. know. Time flies when

23:39

you are having No fun at all.

23:43

No. You know what? I'm okay. I'm fine.

23:45

Like, I think I'm okay now. If you asked

23:47

me even two weeks ago. I was not

23:49

as fine, but

23:52

I I feel better now. It took me a long time

23:54

with this one because I think it just shook

23:56

me that somebody could

23:58

hurt me with intention. Like,

24:00

really, like, know that he wasn't going to

24:02

be a good guy and still do it anyways.

24:05

Like, that for me was, like, come on. Like,

24:07

that's harder to swallow than, like, a

24:09

lot of breakups. You know, even

24:11

if you need to hate them and think they're evil in

24:13

the beginning, like, you come to understand

24:15

that, like, we all do our best.

24:17

If we

24:17

wanna love someone, you know, you enter in a relationship

24:20

because you want to be a good partner, you wanna

24:22

be loved, you wanna love somebody, and like

24:24

we fuck that up because not everyone's meant to be

24:26

together and people, you know, mess up people are

24:28

human like you can't help it. And I understand that

24:30

like with every other guy updated, if

24:32

they've hurt me, even if they've hurt me worse than this

24:34

guy, like, it wasn't because they they didn't

24:37

come into it knowing that that was gonna happen.

24:39

Yeah. It just happened. And I think

24:41

that he came into our whatever

24:43

the fuck we were doing knowing that he was not

24:45

ever going to, like, commit to me, not ever

24:47

going to, like, follow-up on the promises that he

24:49

made. Yeah. I mean, that is really hard to

24:51

get

24:51

over. Like, that's much more of a betrayal

24:54

to me. The worst part for, like, as an outsider

24:56

and your friend, because I am

24:58

a believer in I mean, you're gonna

25:00

laugh when I say

25:01

this. I'm obviously a believer in giving

25:03

people

25:04

many chances. Never

25:06

doing it again. Yeah. Like,

25:08

this was not your first encounter

25:11

with this dude. No. It was my third.

25:13

Like, the think the fact that it was

25:15

like a conversation where you were

25:17

like, okay. Like, we're not doing this

25:19

three times in a row. Like, I will

25:21

only keep seeing you if you can tell

25:23

me now that you're in. And if you're not, that's

25:26

fine, but I'm not doing it again. And then he

25:28

proceeds to be like, no, and then does

25:29

it. Like fuck that. That's awful.

25:32

No, literally to be like this time

25:34

I'm ready. Like, I mean it this time I want,

25:36

you know, I know I would never put you through this

25:38

again

25:39

and then puts me through it again. Immediately.

25:42

Like, awful. Like, truly, like,

25:44

two months later. I was like, you've gotta be kidding me.

25:47

So I mean, this one was kinda hard. This

25:49

one took a lot of time to just like let myself

25:51

be sad, which I think is the most important thing you

25:53

can do. It's like really just let yourself feel whatever

25:56

it is you're feeling, and letting myself be angry,

25:58

letting myself fantasize about keying his

26:00

car, you know, like, that

26:02

sometimes you just have to let those emotions carry

26:05

you through because if you don't, like, you

26:07

don't acknowledge

26:08

them, they can really drag you down.

26:10

And that's a hard hold to get out of, you

26:12

know. You're so right. And I think the other

26:14

thing too is not even just always letting yourself,

26:16

but as you get older something

26:18

that I've noticed a lot of especially

26:21

my younger friends are not very good

26:23

at, like my friends who are maybe even like little bit younger

26:25

than I am. Or it's the same age.

26:27

They're not the best at identifying their

26:30

emotions like what they are. So a lot

26:32

of times, like, people will dislike something without

26:34

being, like, I dislike it because I'm jealous

26:36

or because that's an insecurity of mine.

26:39

Or we think that, like, we

26:41

are upset because a guy you

26:44

know, did something to us, but sometimes

26:46

it could just be, like, a it's a really, like,

26:48

soft point because it's something we're incredibly insecure

26:51

about. Yes. And I think the

26:53

more open and honest and descriptive

26:55

you are with your emotions and healing.

26:58

It can be really positive.

27:00

It's difficult and it's uncomfortable, but

27:02

You being like, no, I am angry. I'm not

27:04

just hurt. I'm angry. I do

27:06

feel betrayed. It's not just like a normal heartbreak

27:09

where I'm

27:09

sad. Mhmm. I'm fucking pissed off.

27:12

And I do wanna keep

27:13

No. I am pissed

27:13

off. Yeah.

27:14

Like and you should be. I'm think he deserves

27:17

that. Like, he does. Absolutely. And

27:19

you know, basing, like, you're I cannot believe that

27:21

Jacuzzi was a first date after that

27:23

though. I felt

27:24

like why

27:25

not?

27:25

You know? I literally hit a point sometimes when

27:27

I'm when it's a a breakup like this where

27:29

I'm just like, you

27:31

have to rip the band aid off at some point. And

27:33

if I'm gonna rip the band aid off, like, it might as well

27:36

be a story. But no, I

27:38

think I think it's been it was hard for me

27:40

to get over, but, you know, you get

27:42

through it. And another thing is I think

27:44

you can't be afraid of being alone. Because

27:46

I think unless you let yourself, like,

27:48

literally sit alone in a room and,

27:50

like, feel it out. Like,

27:53

I understand, like, going out after being

27:55

around friends. Those are all good things. Like, go

27:57

out, be around friends. Mhmm. But, like, also

27:59

give yourself time to just, like, be alone.

28:01

And take a minute and be like, I Like,

28:04

what am I feeling? Like, what do I need to

28:06

do? And and just feel sorry for yourself

28:08

little bit. I think people are really afraid to be

28:10

alone. Yeah. Like, in a macro

28:12

sense, but also in the macro sense, like, not

28:15

just, like, alone in a room, but, like, I'll pray to,

28:17

like, not be dating someone not to be, like, moving

28:19

on right away. The best way to get

28:21

over someone is to get under someone else. Like, that's

28:23

not true. No. Not at all. It's not

28:25

true. Like, the best way to get over someone is

28:27

to, like, invest that time back into

28:29

yourself and, like, really work on you

28:31

and, like, let yourself, like, have a moment.

28:33

Every breakup is an opportunity to be a better

28:36

version of yourself.

28:37

Totally. And I think the other thing too is

28:39

a lot of the issue, and I I actually talked

28:41

about this a lot because this is something that used to happen

28:43

to me. So, like, right after I would end things,

28:45

I would have a break up. I would literally go on, like, a

28:47

spree. And it don't mean that I like, sleep around

28:49

or do anything. Like, there happened times where yes. That's

28:51

happened. But I would just forced myself

28:54

to be out, like, all hours of

28:56

the day, like, just -- Yeah. -- feeling at my

28:58

time, doing nonsense, not even with people

29:00

I like, but I was so busy and I was

29:02

really good at keeping myself busy that

29:04

in the moments in which I suddenly didn't

29:06

have that distraction, I'd

29:08

had even I have, like, the opposite.

29:11

Like, solitude was so shocking,

29:13

and it's devastating, like, even, like,

29:15

an hour of alone time after you've

29:17

been forcing yourself to be busy for, like, two weeks

29:20

straight. It feels like you're, like,

29:22

gonna, like, sob on your kitchen

29:24

floor and you do a lot of the time and

29:26

it's, like, but that's why you have to be intentional

29:28

with it. Like, you have to be so intentional about your

29:30

alone time. Like, I I always know when

29:32

I go through a break up, I wanna, like,

29:34

I need to be alone first. Like, I need to,

29:36

like, scream and cry and feel sorry

29:38

for myself, and then I can go

29:40

out and feel more normal. But, like, if I don't get that

29:43

out that first time, Like, yeah, denial

29:45

works. I won't say it doesn't. I won't say, like, shoving

29:47

your emotions. Yeah. doesn't work. But in the long run,

29:49

in two years, you're gonna still be dealing with this

29:51

shit because you didn't process it, you didn't scream

29:54

and cry, and throw

29:55

glass, and tell him that you hope he dies,

29:57

you know. Yeah. Like and I think that just

30:00

feeling everything and not being embarrassed that

30:02

you feel it is so important. Like, I

30:05

oh, you and I talk about this, like, all the time.

30:07

We like, Ellie and I had a wonderful

30:09

that at the end of the night? I have a great question for

30:11

you because you're the only one that will appreciate

30:13

it. So we are talking about, like, past

30:15

relationships and, like,

30:17

what Taylor's with songs, we would be like,

30:20

oh, like they are. And I've actually

30:22

said this to this guy. I'm like, you

30:24

are fucking gold rush. Like,

30:27

It is Schnitt is like,

30:29

oh, like and it's

30:31

just like a little, like, too intense and

30:34

I think what was your number one

30:36

answer again? Like, what was your, like, overriding

30:38

one? I remember I think I remember all of

30:40

your

30:41

five. For this guy? Yeah. Think better

30:43

man probably. Oh. Previous

30:45

thing I ever did was run. Like,

30:47

fuck. Okay. You did. That

30:49

that is something I have to give you a

30:52

lot of credit for. And obviously, it's something that,

30:54

like, comes with time. But it's so

30:56

easy like, give in, I think,

30:58

and immediately just, like, want

31:01

to instead of accept nothing, except,

31:03

like, the bare minimum because, like, you don't wanna

31:05

feel that, like, total

31:06

-- Yes. But you were, like, you don't wanna be

31:08

alone. You were, like, fuck that. No.

31:10

Like, I'm you're done. Like, I don't wanna

31:12

see you again. And I am

31:15

really that was, like,

31:17

super difficult but incredible. I

31:19

have a lot of respect for you. It was

31:22

it was really

31:22

hard. You, like, held it too. Honestly, in,

31:24

like, ten out of ten, I recommend it,

31:27

but, like, don't fucking. It was so

31:29

hard. And, like, literally told him,

31:31

like, do not ever talk to, like, don't

31:33

ever under any circumstances. I literally

31:35

don't care if you're bleeding out on the street, and I'm the

31:37

only number you remember. Do not fucking

31:39

contact me ever again. And

31:42

he's held that, which is good. Because I think he even

31:44

he knows, like -- Yeah. -- he fucked up really

31:46

bad. But, like, yeah, it's really hard to, like,

31:48

not accept the scraps. Because when really sad like

31:50

that, when you're really invested in someone, you're like,

31:53

maybe they'll change their minds, and

31:55

also like you're sad. And the person you want

31:57

to comfort

31:58

you, is the person who's making

32:00

me sad. Yeah. You

32:01

know? And so it's this really weird

32:03

thing where I was like, I wanna kill

32:05

him. I also wanna go crawl in his bed

32:07

right now and have him rub my back. And, like, it was just

32:09

really hard, but, like -- Yeah. -- at the end of the

32:11

day, like, I love myself more.

32:13

I know what I deserved, and I

32:16

fuck that. I'm we're fucking goddamn. Sorry.

32:18

I'm I'm twenty six years old. Like, what am

32:20

I gonna oh, are we gonna have a situation ship?

32:22

Fuck you. Like, no. Actually, fuck

32:24

you. You know? Like, grow

32:26

up. You're either gonna

32:28

marry me or leave me alone. Like,

32:31

goodbye. I'm done. Like -- Yeah.

32:33

-- and I saw this thing on TikTok. My

32:35

favorite source of media, truly.

32:37

Of course. But saw this thing that said

32:39

a lot of people don't want to end things

32:42

on good terms because good terms

32:44

mean you never speak again and bad terms means

32:46

the next conversation starts with an apology.

32:48

And that

32:51

really was, like, a moment where I was, like, wait

32:53

a second. Because and it what what I was going

32:55

into is, as hard as it is, the

32:58

older I get, and I hate admitting

33:00

this. Everyone who says cold turkey

33:02

is the way to go is right. Yeah. Of course

33:04

we are. Everyone who says it is right.

33:06

It's it's the it I hate

33:09

I hate having to be, like, that's right. And I never

33:11

really, like, doubted it was, but,

33:13

like, I never would say it openly, like,

33:15

oh, that's the way to go. Like,

33:18

I truly, like, cannot imagine --

33:20

No. It is. -- like,

33:22

any time I've just you don't get over

33:24

someone if you're still talking to them.

33:26

Like, what no. What are we talking about? Guys,

33:28

it's like, come on. It's torture.

33:31

It's awful. used

33:33

to, like, love to ask one of my favorite,

33:35

like, little, like, dinner party questions. Is it, like, better

33:37

to have something but not the way that you want it

33:39

to be or to not have it at all? And

33:42

I think lot of the times, the

33:44

latter is actually the healthier option

33:47

and it doesn't mean that you're not willing to compromise

33:49

and it doesn't mean that you are

33:52

a control freak or always need everything your

33:54

way, but accepting that sometimes

33:57

your terms are the best terms

33:59

that work for you. And that you shouldn't

34:01

bend on them, that is like a really good

34:03

learning lesson. That's something I definitely have

34:05

taken, like, a lot of knowledge

34:07

from you on. I feel like, I've been talking

34:09

to you. And, like, I

34:11

also just feel like the worst thing that could

34:13

happen to you in your life is not being alone.

34:16

You know? The worst thing that could happen to you or let you and

34:18

your life is not being single. Like, if something

34:20

doesn't work out, it's not like your life is over.

34:22

You're gonna like fall into a pit of despair and die.

34:24

Like, actually women end up less happy,

34:27

married, than me. Like, you know what I mean? Like, the

34:29

worst thing that could ever happen to you is actually being

34:31

in a relationship. And feeling like,

34:33

oh, I did everything right. I'm in this relationship.

34:35

I'm married. I'm whatever. And actually being lonely,

34:37

being unhappy, you know, having

34:39

someone who doesn't to you having someone who doesn't

34:41

really do the way you deserve. That is way worse

34:43

than being alone and treating yourself the way that you

34:45

deserve. It

34:46

just is. It is. Absolutely. I know

34:48

we're all horny and we all want love. But,

34:50

like, god, at what cost

34:51

sometimes. He's like, ugh. So you know how

34:53

you started the story by telling her and how I was

34:55

like, you should DM this guy. Like, that's very

34:57

much so about

34:58

auto. Like, why not? Not mine.

35:00

Like, for a long time, especially,

35:02

like, the past maybe, like, two years,

35:04

I found myself really, like, fighting

35:07

for people and, like, I I think

35:09

a lot of the time my biggest frustration is I'm

35:11

such a communicator. Mhmm. And

35:13

I wanted there to be a sentence. Not

35:15

a problem. Yeah. No. I wanted there to

35:17

be, like, a sentence so that I could say, like, a perfect

35:20

sentence that would make them see things immediately

35:22

from my perspective and or

35:24

agree with me or, you know, change

35:26

things, but there's almost never, like,

35:28

absolutely, like, ninety nine point nine percent of the

35:30

time, anything that you can say or do. I remember

35:33

in the vestibular card dark matter in Tellers

35:35

was like, when people would, like,

35:37

stop loving you. Like, there's nothing you can

35:39

say. They just stopped loving you. Yeah.

35:42

And I was reading this thing a while ago, and

35:44

I talked about it on the show, but you just reminded me

35:46

of it. That the worst outcome, like, sure.

35:48

I think that, occasionally, there

35:50

are, like, you can try, like, a double text

35:53

once in a while. And I'm not even a totally

35:55

like he wanted to, he would because I do have, like,

35:57

my own anxieties that hold me back from things.

35:59

So I do like to give people a bit of leeway

36:01

there. But what I do think is

36:03

really, really, really important is, like

36:05

you said, the worst outcome isn't

36:08

actually a guy rejecting you

36:11

or not texting you

36:13

back. The worst thing is getting into

36:15

a relationship with a guy who's like

36:17

half asking it for

36:18

you. Yeah. That's so much where I realized,

36:21

like, pretty recently, like,

36:23

I what am I gonna do, like, for the rest of my

36:25

life? Like, so I'm gonna get something that gives me, like, a

36:27

little bit of temporary satisfaction but

36:30

I'm gonna constantly be thinking about, like, what

36:32

girls they follow on Instagram or,

36:34

like, what they're doing or, you know,

36:36

are they one of those guys that because you wouldn't have

36:38

this mutual experience where you're talking

36:40

to a guy, and until he leaves the four hour

36:43

conversation, you had no idea he wasn't single.

36:45

Like, am I gonna have boyfriend like

36:47

that? He's like, rubbing the back of rail,

36:49

like, those

36:49

next at bars. Like, that's a nauseating

36:52

quote. I forgot about that guy.

36:54

Yeah. Like, we had no idea. And so so

36:56

Sorry about that. It was it was a great night though,

36:58

but it's really become a thing though where it's sort

37:00

of like, is it do

37:03

I as much as I wanna give myself that

37:05

immediate satisfaction where I, like, I want, like,

37:07

a text back or, like, a warm

37:09

body and I don't wanna nap by myself and

37:11

I want, like, that thing, of course.

37:13

You know, like, which so normal and so human

37:15

and, like, not crazy at all, I,

37:17

like, have recently been saying myself, oh my god,

37:20

like, could I imagine doing this

37:22

like, realistically for the rest of my life,

37:24

like, I would rather, like, go drown myself

37:26

in the cold bath with all of the

37:29

Slavic old men. Like, I'd rather

37:31

just go like like rock

37:33

down that bitch. Like, that's what I'd rather go

37:35

do. And it's like that's it's

37:38

it's hard to admit that, but think I also

37:40

respect how much personal

37:43

time you take? Because it's really difficult

37:45

to, like, be, like, I need this. Like,

37:47

what how did you

37:48

learn? Is that, like, a skill you've always had? Or is

37:50

it something you, like, done over time. No.

37:52

You know, it's not something because I for a lot

37:54

of my life, I thought I was more extroverted

37:57

than I am because, like, I am, like, I'm, like, you

37:59

know, friendly and, like, I can be, like,

38:01

normal. don't know, like, in, like, a social

38:04

situation. But I would be, like,

38:06

why do I feel so shitty

38:09

when I'm, like, going going

38:11

going constantly around people, constantly doing

38:13

things, why am I irritable? Why am I pissed

38:15

off? Like, why do I feel uncomfortable? Like,

38:18

why am I so tired? And it wasn't

38:20

until, like, after college because college is just one

38:22

of those environments that, like, you're, like, forced

38:24

socialization, twenty four seven. And it

38:26

was -- Yeah. -- I was in such a bad mood

38:28

all the time, and didn't know I mean, well,

38:31

I knew why I was, like, I hated college, but, like,

38:33

that didn't realize was such a part of it until

38:35

I became an adult.

38:38

I moved out and I was living with roommates.

38:40

And I realized there was a weekend where

38:43

they were out of town, and I believe it

38:45

was, like, memorial weekend or something like that,

38:47

where, like, the city was kind of empty. And

38:49

I was, like, alone. And didn't make any plans

38:51

because everyone was kind of out of town. And I was like, oh my

38:53

god, what am I gonna do? what am I gonna do with my time?

38:55

Like, I'm gonna be alone, like freaking out. And

38:58

then I had this weekend alone.

39:02

I had this weekend alone in the apartment.

39:06

I just, like, hung out.

39:08

I went on walks, like eight like,

39:10

I just hung out with myself for a weekend,

39:13

and I didn't feel guilty about it. I didn't, like,

39:15

let myself feel guilty about it because sometimes I feel about

39:17

Georgetown alone when I was younger. And

39:20

that month or Tuesday, I guess, when everyone was

39:22

back and like I was back at work and I was, you know, seeing

39:24

people, oh my god, I was in the best mood of my entire

39:26

life. Like, I thought it was, like, skipping around,

39:28

like, so happy to see people. And I

39:30

learned that, like, I need to recharge a loan.

39:32

That's what Interiors is. It's like

39:35

it's not that, like, oh, I just, like, wanna, like, read a

39:37

book all the time. I mean, I do. But it's that,

39:39

like, if I need to be alone, like, you don't wanna

39:41

be around me. Yeah. Like, I'm

39:43

a I'm a huge fucking bitch when

39:45

I, like, haven't recharged alone enough, you

39:47

know. Totally. So, like, that's how I've learned

39:49

to, like, do that because I just know it's better for

39:51

me. And better for everyone else to trust

39:54

me. Like, there's, like, the FOMO aspect

39:56

of, like, everyone's going to this club

39:58

and, like, I wanna go. But in my

40:00

head knowing, Oh, I would be

40:02

the worst person in the world at that club.

40:04

Yeah. would be miserable. I would be sitting there,

40:06

like, pissed off, like annoyed, not

40:08

being fun.

40:09

Like, that's not good for

40:10

anybody. And it's not, like, if it's not good for

40:12

you, like, that's just it's that's, like, that that's

40:15

enough of a sentence. If it's not good for you end of

40:17

Well, yeah, period of sentence. And I think

40:19

the other thing too that, like, I've had issues with,

40:21

like, in recent years is a lot of

40:23

the guys I've dated or seen

40:25

or, you know, had situationships with

40:28

are very social. Yeah. And, like,

40:30

while they need a loan time, it's almost

40:32

like they don't I don't respect,

40:35

like, my alone time, not like that.

40:37

But they they they sometimes

40:40

automatically assume that, like,

40:43

if I was alone, it was not

40:45

a choice I was making, and I just didn't

40:47

have, like, anything to do, which is a

40:49

huge like, people don't always get that.

40:51

No. It is. It is an issue. Why would you

40:53

wanna be alone? And it's like, I'm an only child.

40:55

Like, I grew up in a pretty quiet

40:57

home. And so for me, like, I

40:59

need to, like, come home And,

41:01

like, I am like a very, like, I do spend

41:04

quite a lot of time out. And so because

41:06

of that, I need to, like, come home

41:08

and, like, read my books and sit in silence

41:10

and just, like, zen out for a little.

41:12

And it's not a matter of, like, oh,

41:14

I don't have friends or don't have this

41:16

and, like, There is that assumption when you tell

41:18

people that you like alone time. There's that assumption,

41:20

but it's also I mean, people don't Honestly,

41:23

I would say most people don't think that, but there is the voice

41:25

in your head that's telling you everyone thinks

41:27

you're a loser. You have no friends. The reason you're

41:29

alone right now is because no one wants to hang out with

41:31

you. And it's like, no. No. No. I had

41:33

six offers to go out tonight and I don't

41:35

want to. Like, I'm I wanna be in my

41:37

bed tonight, you know. Totally. And there's

41:39

just nothing wrong with it. You grow out. I think you grow out

41:41

of FOMO a little bit. But, you know, my best friend

41:44

from high school. She texted me today

41:46

actually. And she's like, I have the best

41:49

question to ask guys now to figure

41:51

out if they're like the kind of guy that like will

41:53

dish you for their boys and like is

41:55

like too much of like a party guy or whatever,

41:58

and you ask them on a scale one to ten, how

42:00

strongly do you feel FOMO? I

42:03

think that is such a good question to ask,

42:06

like, Are you someone that, like, you see your friends

42:08

out and you're gonna freak

42:09

out? Are you someone who's, like, willing to, like, whatever

42:11

I'm with my girl. Like, I don't care. Like, hang out with

42:13

me. You know? Yeah. And it's it

42:15

is so true. Like, I've

42:17

I I also, like, such an ache of mine,

42:20

like, when I see them get, like, worked

42:22

up. I'm sorry. That's so wrong. Like, again,

42:24

it's an insecurity thing, but, like, oh,

42:26

like, I don't wanna see you getting all, like, upset

42:28

because I was like, like, I'm sorry. He's

42:31

just like your friends don't wanna, like, play with

42:33

you in the playground. Like, How old are we?

42:36

Like, come on. How old are you?

42:38

Come

42:38

on. That is so funny.

42:40

It's just I don't wanna, like, witness it. I don't

42:42

wanna be part of it. Like, like,

42:45

I would never I'm not interested in

42:47

the feeling

42:47

anymore, you know. I was, like, not interested

42:49

in having a conversation about doing

42:51

anything unless it's something you really want

42:53

to do. Yeah. Truly. Absolutely. And

42:55

that's like, I'm over it. I'm not doing

42:57

shit I don't wanna do. And I don't wanna see you do shit

43:00

that you don't wanna do. I hate. Like, there

43:02

are obligations that you have as a human being. There are

43:04

things that we have to do. Yeah. There are parties we have

43:06

to go to sometimes that we're like, I really don't wanna

43:08

go, but it's a birthday party. And the nicest thing you can

43:10

do for somebody just go to their birthday party.

43:13

You know what I mean? But, like, for the most part, if

43:15

there's something and you're complaining to me

43:17

and you're like, I don't wanna go. I don't wanna go.

43:20

Don't go. Looks like then,

43:22

don't go and then be miserable and come back and

43:24

complain to you that you went and you weren't having

43:25

fun. Just don't go. Don't

43:28

go. This is like an such a big thing of

43:30

mine. It truly is. But

43:32

so, I mean, oh my god.

43:33

It's been so, like, lovely chatting with

43:35

you. It's like such a natural conversation because this is

43:37

what we sound like a dinner. Be a little bit

43:39

more through. Maybe a little

43:42

bit more sassy with name drops,

43:44

but that's really it. Mhmm. But on that note,

43:46

I would love to just ask you a

43:48

few, like, little quick fire questions. Yeah.

43:51

So, what is your

43:53

number oneic? Oh, you know what

43:55

it is? You know what it is? This is so dumb.

43:57

But like a man who's like a really picky

43:59

eater, like a man who like only eats like

44:01

chicken fingers kinda thing like there are men

44:04

out there like that, and that is to me just

44:06

like, like, if you won't go to a like,

44:08

if we go to a restaurant, you're like,

44:10

stay. Like, you know, like, and you're, like, not willing like,

44:12

try anything, like, oh, it's such a red

44:14

flag and such an ache to me. I'm, like, totally.

44:16

Be an adult. You could grow

44:18

up. I love I love

44:20

telling men to grow

44:22

up. It's my new favorite thing, especially because

44:24

as you know many of are older than

44:25

me. They need to. But, like, grow the

44:27

fuck up. Like, how are you alive

44:29

right now? When's the last time you had a vegetable?

44:32

Like, I'm scared. I'm worried. I

44:34

will never forget this. I I don't know

44:36

if I told you this. But so I

44:38

really like this guy. Like, it would be

44:40

about, like, two years now. Like, twenty

44:43

twenty one. And we were

44:45

at his apartment. It was like my friends and I who was

44:47

giving us a tour. And

44:51

So at the time he was twenty sick.

44:53

Okay. My age got it. And

44:57

he had his duvet

44:59

cover on the bed and

45:01

he had it flipped up and

45:04

like the buttons at the off of the bed,

45:06

and they weren't, like, the ones at the very end, but

45:08

they were maybe,

45:09

like, a foot down into this new bed because he

45:11

thought they were decorations.

45:15

He did go to an Ivy League school also.

45:18

Can I just say one more thing? First of all, that's

45:20

Larry's. Don't ever date a man who went to an Ivy.

45:22

I know you're thinking, oh, they're so smart. They're

45:24

crazy. All of them insane. Not

45:26

worth it. They are really crazy. Yeah. They

45:28

are they are absolutely

45:31

I I haven't I I don't know many that

45:33

haven't been totally batshit, so

45:35

that's really I say this is

45:37

a child of all of my parents'

45:41

The men are nuts. But so yeah. No.

45:43

That's it. That's an dick. But I just and I was like,

45:46

do you not

45:46

know? And he was like, I thought they referred decoration.

45:49

And I was like, Are you

45:51

kinda cute?

45:52

I'm like, this is so bad. This is it's

45:55

not even like weaponized incompetence.

45:57

It's just straight up incompetence. It

45:59

gets, like, awkward too, and they're, like, really

46:01

grown men's size. You know? Like, they're really

46:03

tall and they're

46:04

big, and then they do stupid stuff. And they're, like,

46:06

this is just

46:07

old. What am I supposed to do with this?

46:10

Yeah. And so then my next question

46:12

is, what

46:14

is your favorite position at the moment? Like,

46:16

if you had to pick one, what would you say,

46:19

you if you could have sex one time

46:21

with whoever you

46:22

want, what position would it wanna be right now?

46:24

Oh, that's tough. You know, I've really

46:26

been in so I was never like a girl on top

46:28

girl because it didn't feel that good to me. Yeah.

46:30

I don't know what happened. I don't know if my, like, vagina

46:32

has changed shape or something. Or, like, my

46:34

cervix moved. Second puberty. Something happened,

46:37

and I'm, like, really, like, in my

46:39

girl on top era. Okay? Yeah. I

46:41

don't wanna do a reverse cowgirl. Don't look up up my

46:43

butt hole. Sorry. But, like, I don't look into

46:45

it. I feel like I've, like, finally figured out,

46:47

like, what I need to do to enjoy it.

46:49

Yeah. Reverse cowgirl also could feel, like, jango

46:52

with your legs, you know, because, like, you

46:54

don't know sometimes if you don't

46:55

get, like, tuck

46:56

your feet, like, underneath their legs. You

46:58

don't know. You're, like, where do I put my hands,

47:00

like and you're you're smaller

47:02

than I am. Like and that's

47:04

say I'm like, you're like very, very petite.

47:06

And so, like, when you try, like, also, like, it's

47:09

a a grown duties like 6162

47:11

taller and you have to,

47:12

like, put your legs around there. That's

47:15

why I don't dig dive fitter that

47:17

tall. Like Well, because, like, their

47:19

hips are all that's, like, kinda wider than mine because

47:21

they're literally just bigger than me. And then

47:23

I get, like, I have bad hips. So

47:26

I I have, like, I

47:28

can't walk the next day and they're, like, nice.

47:30

Can't walk. I'm, like, no. I just my hips

47:32

are out of joint. You're wide.

47:35

Oh my god. I love I love a wide

47:37

set man. But last,

47:40

I'm the I'm out of the wide hip, a birthday

47:42

hip, you know. Oh, like, so play big boy

47:44

boat, scissor.

47:48

Oh my god. Okay. So on a final note,

47:50

and do not laugh at this question, but

47:52

I have to ask

47:53

you, who is your celebrity crush

47:55

at the moment? I

47:58

think you know. To

48:01

be the number to be the number two. Let me

48:03

see if I can come up with somebody else. Well,

48:06

obviously Okay. Well, listen. There's the first

48:08

one, but then, like, my, non celebrity but sort

48:10

of celebrity, like, he's like a celebrity to me and, like,

48:12

he's famous, but not like a celebrity celebrity. Like,

48:14

It's Hassan Piker. He's

48:16

a socialist, twitch

48:18

streamer, and he's very sexy. And

48:21

I'm in love with him in so many ways.

48:23

Mostly physical. And

48:25

I just like, oh, he's a big boy though. He

48:27

is like six foot five, like, broad,

48:30

strong man. Not really my type

48:32

he's gonna be a trip to the It would

48:34

be. There would be problems. But if I

48:36

I wanna do it once, you know.

48:43

Oh my god. Ellie, it has been such

48:45

a treat to have you on today. Can

48:47

you please okay. Like, we we have to

48:49

have Eliane again because she is

48:51

quite literally the funniest person I've ever

48:53

met and the best but I want to make sure

48:56

that you guys know where to

48:57

reach. Ellie will make sure that we get the links for

48:59

for everything. But Ellie, can you please tell

49:01

everyone where to find you? Yeah.

49:04

So you can follow me on Instagram at l

49:06

e underscore schnit and you can follow me on Twitter

49:08

at holy underscore schnit and twitch at l e

49:10

schnit. Just plain l e schnit. That's also

49:12

TikTok as well. And then my podcast is called

49:14

Late Night Drive, and you can find that anywhere that you listen

49:16

to

49:16

podcasts. And you guys all need to go listen

49:19

because she is incredible. And we also need

49:21

to make her, like, the best I'm not

49:23

best. Most watched twitch

49:26

streamer. We need to we're gonna stop every

49:28

night. Right? So all of you guys, if you don't know how

49:30

to use it like me, we're gonna

49:32

find out how to use it to watch

49:33

Ellie.

49:34

One hundred percent. It's been so great having you

49:36

on. I hope that your hotel date

49:38

goes really well and is not sketchy at

49:40

all. We're probably gonna need some

49:42

follow-up on here. But it's been so

49:45

lovely having it.

49:45

No. I think I'm

49:46

gonna be really crazy. Yeah.

49:48

I love you so much then.

49:49

Thank you so much, Ellie. Of course. Thanks

49:52

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