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French right-wing politician, Maureen Lipen, is

1:05

leading many polls to become the

1:07

next president of France in 2027.

1:09

After her national front party won

1:11

the EU parliamentary elections last year.

1:14

But fortunately for the French establishment, which

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is long hated and feared Le Pen,

1:18

they have at least for now solved

1:20

their Le Pen problem, not by persuading

1:23

French voters to reject her or abandon

1:25

her. as one would expect one would

1:27

do in a democracy, but instead

1:29

by securing a criminal conviction against

1:31

her that magically resulted in her

1:33

being banned from running for her

1:35

office for five years, which just

1:37

coincidentally extends to the 2027 French

1:39

presidential election in which all polls

1:41

agree she has a good chance

1:43

to win. This is not the first time

1:46

we have seen a right-wing populist leading

1:48

in the polls suddenly become banished from

1:50

the ballot. The opposite is true. It

1:52

is now becoming commonplace in the so-called

1:55

democratic world. In the name of

1:57

protecting democracy, establishment factions have...

1:59

from the ballot. Former president of Brazil

2:02

Jayor Bolsonaro who now has a sizable

2:04

lead in the polls for the 2026

2:06

election to defeat the current Brazilian president

2:08

Lula di Silva and be reelected to

2:11

a second term but luckily for Bolsonaro

2:13

opponents he too is barred for money.

2:15

We saw something very similar happen recently

2:17

in Romania, where a previously unknown right-wing

2:20

populist candidate, Callan Georgescu, unexpectedly won the

2:22

presidential election in late 2024, only for

2:24

the EU and the United States to

2:26

work with Romania to simply invalidate that

2:29

election. It doesn't count. And then when

2:31

Georgescu was quite substantially leading polls for

2:33

the second election, they decided to have

2:35

this, and they didn't like the outcome

2:38

of the first. They'd simply banned him

2:40

from running two and now he's off

2:42

the ballot. And of course, getting Donald

2:44

Trump banned from the ballot was a

2:47

major priority of the Democratic Party throughout

2:49

2023 and 2024, knowing, as they often

2:51

said, that that was their best chance,

2:53

perhaps their only chance to beat him.

2:56

We'll break down what these guardians and

2:58

saviors of democracy are doing when banishing

3:00

their most popular opponents from running as

3:02

opposed to trying to defeat them democratically.

3:05

But first... There are a handful of

3:07

reporters who have doggedly investigated and reported

3:09

on and followed every aspect of the

3:11

investigations into the 1963 assassination of President

3:14

John F. Kennedy, one of the best

3:16

of those, Jefferson Morley, testified today in

3:18

front of Congress about the significance of

3:20

the newly released JFK documents, along with

3:23

others who have long followed the JFK

3:25

investigation, including Director Oliver Stone and others.

3:27

You'll recall that last week we reported

3:29

on and broke down the unredacted memo

3:32

that was released by the Trump administration

3:34

to their credit. They declassified all the

3:36

documents. That JFK confidant Arthur Slessinger wrote

3:38

to the president, President Kennedy, about the

3:41

reasons the CIA desperately needed to be

3:43

reigned in. And while morally here to

3:45

talk about his testimony today, that Sussinger

3:47

memo and much more on the CIA's

3:50

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3:52

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7:24

between CIA Director Richard Helms and

7:26

President Richard Nixon. He is, as

7:29

well, a leading authority. I believe

7:31

one of the top two or

7:33

three journalistic authorities on the JFK

7:35

assassination. He has spent decades prying

7:37

loose the CIA's deepest secrets and

7:39

challenging the official narrative, and he

7:41

testified earlier today at Congress about

7:43

what these newly declassified documents from

7:45

the Trump administration not just of

7:47

the assassination, but the clear cover-up

7:49

that took place as part of

7:51

the investigation, as well as the

7:53

potential CIA role in all of

7:56

this. Some of that quite demonstrated,

7:58

not just potential, and we're delayed.

8:00

He took the time to join

8:02

us, Jeff. great to see you.

8:04

Thanks so much for taking the

8:06

time to talk to us. Thanks

8:08

for having me Glenn. I'm very

8:10

glad to be here. Yeah, I'm

8:12

glad to have you. I recommended

8:14

the interview that you recently did

8:16

on breaking points, which was about

8:18

30 minutes, that you did with

8:20

Salgrangetti and Ryan Grimm. I found

8:23

it one of the most illuminating

8:25

interviews and recent times on, especially

8:27

on these documents, but I want

8:29

to explore some other things beyond

8:31

what's in that interview as well.

8:33

And I want to begin, you

8:35

testified earlier today. before the House

8:37

task force on declassification, which is

8:39

chaired by Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna,

8:41

the Republican of Florida. And I

8:43

know that you and everybody else

8:45

interested in, not just the JFK

8:47

assassination, but the role that the

8:49

CIA has played in our politics

8:52

and our history, was very interested

8:54

in these documents and more broadly

8:56

interested in getting to the bottom

8:58

of this case, whether we really

9:00

ever learned the truth. What was

9:02

your sense having testified before the

9:04

committee about whether that interest and

9:06

excitement... is shared by most members

9:08

of Congress. I've been very impressed

9:10

with her attitude. She's a can

9:12

do person. When I said, I

9:14

said, we need to get these

9:16

documents from the CIA. She said,

9:19

you know, give me a memo

9:21

and I'll call Radcliffe's office today.

9:23

So she's very proactive. I think

9:25

her leadership has been very strong.

9:27

You know, we had some partisan

9:29

politics in the hearing today, which

9:31

I think was unfortunate because it's

9:33

not really a partisan issue. I

9:35

mean, I'm a pretty liberal guy.

9:37

That's why I wanted to be

9:39

on your show, you know, and

9:41

so I'm hopeful that the task

9:43

force is going to do serious

9:46

work. The most encouraging sign, she

9:48

says we're going to have another

9:50

hearing on JFK and we're hoping

9:52

to get some more firsthand witnesses

9:54

to explicate the new history of

9:56

JFK's assassination. of these documents and

9:58

the investigation, but just before I

10:00

get to that, which will be

10:02

next, just along the same lines,

10:04

I don't want to make it

10:06

a partisan issue either. But there

10:08

is a palpable shift in how

10:10

our political spectrum thinks about the

10:13

U.S. security state, the CIA, the

10:15

nefarious role they've often played. It

10:17

used to be, as you said,

10:19

you're a liberal Democrat, you used

10:21

to be foundational to American distrust

10:23

and view the CIA and the

10:25

security state as quite sinister, as

10:27

needing reform, and it was more

10:29

typical that conservatives would defend them.

10:31

No, these are patriotic organizations, we

10:33

need them, we love them, we

10:35

have to operate in the dark,

10:37

and there's been so much change.

10:40

I mean, it was Donald Trump

10:42

who finally declassified these documents as

10:44

he promised to do, it's chairwoman

10:46

Luna, a very right-wing member of

10:48

Congress, who's leading the way, as

10:50

you say, very proactively. And I

10:52

just want to show you a

10:54

clip from today. that involves Congresswoman

10:56

Jasmine Crock of the Democrat of

10:58

Texas who has become in a

11:00

lot of ways one of the

11:02

leading faces of the Democratic Party,

11:04

the American liberalism, and here's what

11:07

she had to say about the

11:09

JFK documents and the hearing itself

11:11

and the possibility of the CIA

11:13

involvement. previously

11:17

classified JFK assassination files are

11:20

now public and show no

11:22

evidence of a CIA conspiracy.

11:24

But what I find funny

11:26

about this hearing is that

11:28

the Republicans are here relitigating

11:30

whether CIA agents lied 60

11:32

years ago. aren't doing anything

11:35

about the CIA director lying

11:37

to Congress just six days

11:39

ago. We should be having

11:41

a hearing on the fact

11:43

that the unqualified Secretary of

11:45

Defense and other senior Trump

11:47

officials were carelessly discussing classified

11:49

military plans over an unsecured

11:52

signal group chat and instead

11:54

of providing oversight over the

11:56

administration's handling of classified information

11:58

the Republicans have Okay,

12:00

so there's more of that, but she's essentially

12:02

saying, look, these new documents vindicated the CIA,

12:05

it had no role to play in any

12:07

of this, anyone who suggests otherwise is a

12:09

conspiracy theory, and in any event, it doesn't

12:11

really even matter. There's no reason for us

12:14

to know we should focus on a signal

12:16

gate or whatever. As somebody who's been aligned

12:18

with the Democratic Party for a long time,

12:20

do you think that's become a more common

12:22

sentiment? Absolutely, and

12:25

it's really unfortunate. I mean, to

12:27

bring up something totally unrelated about

12:29

what's going on with the, you

12:31

know, current controversy. The JFK files

12:33

is something that there is broad

12:35

support for across the political spectrum,

12:37

and there's no need to drag

12:39

partisan politics into this issue. It's

12:41

just not an issue. You know,

12:43

Representative Luna did a good job

12:45

of leading this and this kind

12:48

of reflexive, you know. Jazz McCrockett

12:50

hadn't even read the documents. She

12:52

didn't even listen to what I

12:54

said about the, you know, the

12:56

false testimony of three top CIA

12:58

officials, you know, and like, you

13:00

know, facts don't register anymore, which

13:02

is a problem in the university,

13:04

but it's especially a problem when

13:06

We're actually making progress on the

13:08

JFK story. President Trump's order was

13:11

a breakthrough and it's one of

13:13

the few things I agree with

13:15

him about. A very positive measure

13:17

we obtained last on March 18th

13:19

a lot of. important information and

13:21

we're getting more as we proceed.

13:23

You know, remember Glenn, they released

13:25

80,000 pages of documents on March

13:27

18th. You know, I might have

13:29

seen a thousand pages of those.

13:31

I've talked to researchers who've seen

13:34

a few thousand more, but we're

13:36

just at the beginning of this

13:38

process of really getting our hands

13:40

and our minds around these new

13:42

records. And so that's the positive

13:44

thing. Luna's talking about having another

13:46

hearing. I think that's a good

13:48

idea to bring more JFK witnesses

13:50

and educate people about what really

13:52

happens. Yeah, I mean I thought

13:54

it was, you know, bizarre when

13:57

the day that it was released,

13:59

everybody ran to their social media

14:01

council. their programs to tell everybody

14:03

what these documents show. We focused

14:05

only on one document, which was

14:07

the Undered Act to the Sussender

14:09

Memo, and only to the extent

14:11

that it revealed things about the

14:13

CIA in general, not necessarily their

14:15

role in, if any, in the

14:18

JFK assassination. But, and I want

14:20

to get to that memo in

14:22

a second, because I do think

14:24

it's of profound importance. But before

14:26

I do, you know, I think

14:28

some of this is generational. I

14:30

mean, I didn't live through the

14:32

JFK assassination. I wasn't born yet.

14:34

Other people who were, were not

14:36

very old. Obviously, Congresswoman Crockett wasn't.

14:38

She was born, I think of

14:41

the 1980s or even 1990s. So

14:43

I understand why some people might

14:45

say, oh, this is kind of

14:47

old and ancient history that we

14:49

don't need to go excavating through.

14:51

What is your answer to that?

14:53

Why do you think it matters

14:55

so much to kind of continue

14:57

with the investigation? Well, let me

14:59

explain. My readership at the JFK

15:01

facts newsletter is very diverse from

15:04

Maga Christian nationalists on the right,

15:06

libertarians, anti-imperialists, liberals on the left.

15:08

So, and we don't have, you

15:10

know, a big culture war on

15:12

the site. People want to, you

15:14

know, people want to talk about

15:16

this. People want to want a

15:18

real debate. And the idea that,

15:20

you know, people are coming reflexively

15:22

to the defense of the CIA

15:24

without even, you know, acknowledging or

15:27

incorporating these records. We're going to

15:29

talk about the Slessinger memo in

15:31

a second. Why should people care?

15:33

You know, what we're missing right

15:35

now in American politics is what

15:37

President Kennedy talked about in 1963.

15:39

He's talked about we need a

15:41

strategy for peace, not peace in

15:43

our time, peace for all times,

15:45

not a PACS Americana. enforce with

15:47

America as the world's policeman, but

15:50

a peace for everybody. And that's

15:52

the vision really that died in

15:54

Dallas. So when people say, why

15:56

does it matter now? You know,

15:58

you don't hear that voice anymore

16:00

in American politics, not from Democrats

16:02

and not from Republicans, you know,

16:04

and that's what's missing. And that's

16:06

why it's important to understand what

16:08

died when President Kennedy died. We've

16:10

lost something very real. And I

16:13

would say, you know, the most

16:15

aggressive factions in the American security

16:17

establishment, after President Kennedy's assassination, because

16:19

there was no real accountability, there

16:21

was no real investigation. That faction

16:23

has had impunity ever since and

16:25

that's led to a much more

16:27

militarized, aggressive, interventionist foreign policy which

16:29

Kennedy was trying to steer the

16:31

country away from. That's what's important

16:33

about the Kennedy assassination. We've lost

16:36

something when we lost President Kennedy.

16:38

So let me let me get

16:40

to dive into these details now

16:42

and let's start with the Schlesinger

16:44

memo for because we for our

16:46

viewers who might have seen it

16:48

I think when it was released

16:50

I believe two weeks ago we

16:52

we delved very deeply into what

16:54

this memo is what the newly

16:56

released material demonstrates and in sum

16:59

for those who don't know Arthur

17:01

Schlesenger was a very respected historian

17:03

especially among the kind of Kennedy

17:05

circle and after the Bay of

17:07

Pigs debacle and the firing of

17:09

Alan Dulles, it was sort of

17:11

the father of the CIA. JFK

17:13

was very interested in getting a

17:15

hold of the CIA, Arthur Schlesinger

17:17

to write this memo, and he

17:19

wrote this long memo detailing all

17:22

of the abuses and dangers of

17:24

having this kind of runaway, unaccountable,

17:26

secret agency off on its own,

17:28

making foreign policy, engineering coos away

17:30

from the State Department, and also

17:32

offered a lot of plans for

17:34

how to rein it in. Pretty...

17:36

serious and severe plans. So I

17:38

want to hear what your thoughts

17:40

are in the newly released portion

17:42

of that, but before you get

17:45

to that, was there, do we

17:47

have evidence that the CIA was

17:49

aware of the conversations taking place

17:51

in the JFK White House about

17:53

the need to rein in the

17:55

CIA? that this period after the

17:57

Bay of Pigs was a stormy.

17:59

He was the director of the

18:01

CIA when Dick Helms, but not

18:03

in the 60s, but later on

18:05

with Nixon. No, he was deputy

18:08

director at the time of the

18:10

Bay of Eggs and later became

18:12

director. Right. So at the time

18:14

of Kennedy's He was deputy director

18:16

and and Helms said in his

18:18

memoir, this was a stormy interregnum.

18:20

for the agency, where they understood

18:22

that their continued existence was in

18:24

the balance. Ultimately Kennedy decided not

18:26

to do the reorganization. It was

18:28

just too big a lift, I

18:31

think, for him in terms of

18:33

politics. But the Slessinger memo shows

18:35

that he was talking about it

18:37

very seriously and that the key

18:39

thing there was what Slessinger called

18:41

the encroachment of the CIA on

18:43

the president's foreign policy-making authority. And,

18:45

you know, you've talked about the

18:47

Slessinger memo. You recall some of

18:49

those details. 47% of state department

18:51

officers... at the time of Kennedy's

18:54

assassination, were in fact CIA officers.

18:56

So the CIA is taking over

18:58

the political reporting function of the

19:00

State Department, and of course that

19:02

limited the President's ability to make

19:04

foreign policy. That's what Kennedy was

19:06

concerned about, and that's what Slessinger

19:08

was trying to solve. Yeah, I

19:10

mean, in that mohim. I think

19:12

quite famously and quite pointedly and

19:14

importantly called it a state within

19:17

a state which is kind of

19:19

ironic since now the term deep

19:21

state has become this source of

19:23

liberal mockery as though it's some

19:25

bizarre unhinged conspiracy theory and you

19:27

knew you had Dwight Eisenhower coming

19:29

out of the 50s serving two

19:31

terms as president warning about the

19:33

military industrial complex on his way

19:35

out and then you have Arthur

19:37

Schlessinger calling it a state within

19:40

a state when writing to JFK

19:42

about it. So this memo has

19:44

been out for a while, I

19:46

think for a few years or

19:48

even longer, but what we have

19:50

now, thanks to President Trump's declassification

19:52

order, is the full unredacted memo.

19:54

So is there are there things

19:56

that we have learned that are

19:58

important in the unredacted parts that

20:00

we didn't previously know? Yeah I

20:03

mean there was a whole page

20:05

that was that was redacted so

20:07

like the statistic that I just

20:09

quoted to you the 47% of

20:11

state department officers were actually CIA

20:13

officers that was redacted by the

20:15

CIA for the past 60 years

20:17

you know the fact that this

20:19

the CIA had 128 in the

20:21

Paris embassy That was redacted. And

20:23

you know, when you look at

20:26

it, that's not national security information.

20:28

No American would be threatened or

20:30

harmed by that information. It's only

20:32

the reputation of the CIA. And

20:34

so what you see in these

20:36

redactions, these redactions are justified in

20:38

the name of national security, right?

20:40

You need to protect us from

20:42

our enemies. Our enemies aren't fooled.

20:44

The only people that were fooled

20:46

were the American people. And that's

20:49

why we need this full declassification.

20:51

You know, we're the only ones

20:53

that are in the dark about

20:55

the way the CIA is operating.

20:57

About your argument that the reason

20:59

the CIA or other parts of

21:01

the government perceive JFK to be

21:03

threatening, perhaps threatening enough to want

21:05

to kill him, is that he

21:07

was talking about this radical transformation

21:09

of our foreign policy, of finding

21:12

a way to get out of

21:14

endless wars and become a nation

21:16

of peace. There are people very

21:18

knowledgeable who are also on the

21:20

left. One of them is Noom

21:22

Chomsky who has said over the

21:24

years that he finds that unpersuasive

21:26

Because and I guess it's a

21:28

very Chomsky way of looking at

21:30

things that although there was a

21:32

little bit of resistance here and

21:35

there on the part of JFK

21:37

in his administration to the military

21:39

industrial complex intelligence community Obviously they

21:41

had a argument after the Bay

21:43

of Pigs they fired as I

21:45

said earlier Alan Dulles, that essentially

21:47

JFK was a militarist and was

21:49

due a good cold warrior. He

21:51

was the one who oversaw what

21:53

Chomsky calls the invasion of South

21:56

Vietnam by the United States. And

21:58

that really if you are a

22:00

military or a cold warrior, you'd

22:02

have no reason to look at

22:04

JFK and find him bothersome. What

22:06

do you think about that? Well,

22:08

I mean, none of Kennedy's enemies

22:10

on the right ever said that

22:12

at the time. They said that

22:14

he was a weakling, if not

22:16

a traitor. You know, the idea

22:19

that Kennedy was a Cuba hawk

22:21

or a Vietnam hawk, no Cuba

22:23

hawk or Vietnam hawk in 1963

22:25

ever said that. You know, so

22:27

the problem with Thompson's argument is

22:29

he hasn't really familiarized himself with

22:31

the debates. You know, CIA director

22:33

Richard Helms was trying to pressure

22:35

Kennedy into a more aggressive Cuba

22:37

policy. And four days before the

22:39

assassination, Richard Helms brought a machine

22:42

gun into the Oval Office as

22:44

a way of convincing President Kennedy

22:46

to take a more aggressive stance.

22:48

And when you read... Kennedy's account

22:50

of it, it's hard not to

22:52

believe that he understood that he

22:54

was being threatened. I mean, think

22:56

about that. The CIA director or

22:58

deputy CIA director is demonstrating to

23:00

the president your security perimeter is

23:02

not secure, right? That's four days

23:05

before President Kennedy was killed. So,

23:07

you know, the idea that there

23:09

weren't profound conflicts at the top

23:11

of the... U.S. government? I mean,

23:13

I know Noam Thompson is a

23:15

smart guy, but he needs to

23:17

pay attention to the historical record.

23:19

There were profound conflicts between Kennedy

23:21

and the national security establishment in

23:23

the fall of 1963. Nobody who

23:25

pays attention, especially to the new

23:28

records, that that wasn't the case.

23:30

Yeah, and obviously, Thomas Scott, here

23:32

to defend himself, but he's... obviously

23:34

talked many times about this so

23:36

people interested can go to YouTube

23:38

and find that I think he

23:40

has a propensity against what he

23:42

calls conspiracy theories and just kind

23:44

of dismissing them out of hand

23:46

and you know nobody's perfect. Yeah

23:48

but let me let me let

23:51

me ask you this this is

23:53

one of the things I learned

23:55

from your work I remember growing

23:57

up in the 70s and 80s

23:59

and my understanding of the JFK

24:01

assassination was that Lee Harvey Oswald

24:03

was just sort of this like

24:05

weird loner that he had like

24:07

a couple of appearances here and

24:09

there in some, you know, public

24:11

and political sectors, but that by

24:14

and large he was kind of

24:16

a nobody, sort of like what

24:18

they're depicting the person who did

24:20

the first assassination attempt against President

24:22

Trump in Pennsylvania, like just a

24:24

guy, a weirdo, not really connected.

24:26

And it was only really through

24:28

following your work in the work

24:30

of a couple other people that

24:32

I actually learned things like, no,

24:34

the CIA had a lot of

24:37

interest in Oswald prior to the

24:39

JFK. I thought nobody knew of

24:41

him before this all happened. In

24:43

fact, the CIA had a big,

24:45

long, large surveillance file on him.

24:47

What is it that the CIA,

24:49

what interest in the CIA have

24:51

in Oswald prior to Oswald's alleged

24:53

role in the JFK assassination? They

24:57

were interested in him as a

24:59

possible source or contact behind the,

25:01

you know, behind the Iron Curtain.

25:03

And that was one of the

25:05

key documents that emerged on March

25:07

18th was a document where Angleton

25:09

talked exactly about who he targeted

25:12

for that type of recruiting. The

25:14

second thing that they were interested

25:16

in was his pro-Cuba activities. You

25:18

know, that was something that the

25:20

CIA denied at the time. They

25:22

pretended like they didn't know anything

25:24

about this. You know, when you

25:27

talk about a big surveillance file,

25:29

you know, this is what I

25:31

showed to Representative Luna today. They

25:33

had a hundred and ninety-eight pages

25:35

on him on November 15th when

25:37

President Kennedy was getting ready to

25:39

go to Dallas. So Lee Harvey

25:42

Oswald was not a lone nut

25:44

in the eyes of the CIA.

25:46

He was a known quantity who

25:48

top CIA officials, top counter intelligence

25:50

officials, knew everything about him as

25:52

President Kennedy was preparing to go

25:54

to Dallas. So of course there's...

25:56

You know, and people say, oh,

25:59

well, that's incompetence, or, you know,

26:01

they didn't know, Oswald didn't present

26:03

a threat. Wait a second. Part

26:05

of the, the reason you have

26:07

a counter intelligence staff is to

26:09

protect you against assassinations. And that

26:11

clearly didn't happen. Angleton failed to

26:14

do his job. But nobody knew

26:16

anything about this. The CIA imposed

26:18

a cover story, the lone gunman.

26:20

And Angleton, instead of losing his

26:22

job, he kept it for another

26:24

decade. Well, let me ask, I

26:26

know you have to go in

26:29

just a few minutes, so I

26:31

want to just respect the time

26:33

I just have a couple more

26:35

questions briefly. You know, this is

26:37

one of the things that, like,

26:39

you know, I think that you

26:41

grow up and you're kind of

26:44

bombarded to believe the establishment narrative

26:46

about everything. I mean, that's why

26:48

it's the establishment narrative, because they

26:50

have control of the institutions that

26:52

shape your thinking. you know, led

26:54

the CIA, gave birth to the

26:56

CIA, directed the CIA, was controlling

26:59

almost everything in there until Kennedy

27:01

fired him and then Kennedy fired

27:03

him, was put onto the Warren

27:05

Commission where naturally is being out

27:07

in dullest, he... you know, had

27:09

immense weight on conducting the official

27:11

investigation. I've always said it's kind

27:13

of like putting Ben Shapiro in

27:16

charge of an investigation to find

27:18

out who's up fault in Gaza.

27:20

You know, you know what kind

27:22

of outcome you're going to get

27:24

if you put Alan Dulles on

27:26

the Warren Commission. You're putting like

27:28

a chief suspect on there. What

27:31

are the best reasons we have

27:33

to distrust both the process and

27:35

the conclusions of the Warren Commission?

27:38

I mean, the fact that Alan

27:40

Dulles was on it, the fact

27:43

that the Warren Commission was deceived

27:45

about the surveillance of Oswald, they

27:47

had no idea that the CIA

27:49

had 198 pages of material on

27:51

Oswald. The Warren Commission was told

27:53

that they had only minimal information

27:55

about Oswald. So, you know, that

27:57

the Warren Commission was fed a

28:00

false story. worry about Oslo. Glenn,

28:02

I'm going to have to go

28:04

soon. Okay, I know, all right,

28:06

I have one more question, but

28:08

I'm going to let you go.

28:10

One more question. Okay, I'll just

28:12

ask you briefly. One of the,

28:15

James Engleton, who was this senior

28:17

CIA official, has been central to

28:19

your work. You said today in

28:21

your testimony that he was one

28:23

of three senior CIA officials to

28:25

have lied to the Warren Commission

28:27

about the investigation, that that was

28:29

sort of a tipping point for

28:32

you. Did Angleton lie about and

28:34

how did he deceive the commission?

28:36

Well, actually what we learned last

28:38

month was that Angleton lied to

28:40

the House Select Committee on Assasinations

28:42

in 1978. He was never had

28:44

to testify to the Warren Commission.

28:46

In 1978, he testified and he

28:49

was asked, was Oswald ever the

28:51

subject of a CIA project? And

28:53

the answer was yes, Angleton had

28:55

put personally put Oswald under male

28:57

surveillance. They were intercepting his letters

28:59

to his mother from the Soviet

29:01

Union. He was under male surveillance

29:04

from 1959 to 1962. When Angleton

29:06

was asked by the HSCA, was

29:08

Oswald ever part of a CIA

29:10

project? He said no. And what

29:12

we know now is that... But

29:14

that was a lie, and he

29:16

was lying under oath about what

29:18

he knew about Oswald before the

29:21

assassination. So that was a tipping

29:23

point for me, because until March

29:25

18th, we never knew that. All

29:27

right, Jeff, thank you for your

29:29

great work. We're going to definitely

29:31

have you back on, Wazzy's, as

29:33

you work your way through these

29:36

documents. We'd love to pick your

29:38

brain more about this. Really appreciate

29:40

the time. I know you're busy

29:42

tonight after your testimony, by by.

29:46

One of the ironies I think

29:48

in Western politics or throughout the

29:51

democratic world over the last Let's

29:53

say decade or so Has been

29:55

there is a group of people

29:58

a very powerful faction you could

30:00

say the kind of established faction

30:02

that's composed of both the center

30:05

left and the center right in

30:07

most Western democracies that have engaged

30:09

in all sorts of highly classically

30:12

anti-democratic measures in the name of

30:14

saving democracy. They herald themselves as

30:16

the saviors and guardians of democracy.

30:19

They say that only their enemies

30:21

are a threat to democracy. They're

30:23

the saviors of it. But the

30:26

reality of politics in the democratic

30:28

world over the last decade has

30:30

been that for a variety of

30:33

factors in the US you can

30:35

go back to the war and

30:38

error and the lives of the

30:40

Iraq war, but more recently the

30:42

2008 financial crisis whose repercussions are

30:45

expressing themselves to this very day

30:47

jeopardizing people's financial security policies of

30:49

free trade and deindustrialization and then

30:52

all the deceit and crackdowns around

30:54

COVID have turned huge portions of

30:56

the population into vehement anti-establishment warriors.

30:59

These people hate these establishments. They

31:01

hate whoever they perceive as defenders

31:03

of the status quo. It started

31:06

to express itself in 2016 with

31:08

things like the British people voting

31:10

to leave the EU out of

31:13

hatred and contempt for EU bureaucrats

31:15

in Brussels. and then obviously followed

31:17

a few months later by what

31:20

was for most people the shocking

31:22

victory of Donald Trump over the

31:25

ultimate establishment maven Hillary Clinton and

31:27

ever since then it's been one

31:29

after the next and obviously historically

31:32

when establishments feel threatened by some

31:34

new event or some shift in

31:36

political sentiment their tendency being the

31:39

establishment is not to assuage it

31:41

not to persuade it but to

31:43

crush it and the 400 or

31:46

500 years ago are not monarchs

31:48

in name, they're not churches in

31:50

name with some sort of absolute

31:53

say the way the Catholic Church

31:55

had over L.R. of a lot

31:57

of countries they have to pretend

32:00

to be Democrats people who believe

32:02

in democracy that's how they pitch

32:04

themselves and so they have been

32:07

just openly doing things like censoring

32:09

their political opponents creating an industry

32:12

designed to decree truth and falsity

32:14

that nobody can deviate from with

32:16

this disinformation industry and more disturbingly

32:19

and I think more desperately showing

32:21

how desperate they really are because

32:23

in so many countries the establishment

32:26

is in deep trouble typically because

32:28

of an emerging right-wing populist movement

32:30

occasionally because of left-wing populism as

32:33

well, both of which manifestes anti-establishment

32:35

movements. Their solution has just been

32:37

to basically bar democracy, limit democracy,

32:40

prevent the most popular opponents of

32:42

the establishment, typically right-wing populist, from

32:44

even running on the ballot, from

32:47

just saying you're banished from the

32:49

election. I think we're told is

32:51

what Putin does. when he has

32:54

fraudulent elections because his opponents can't

32:56

run. These are just theatrical elections

32:58

that are very stage managed. That's

33:01

exactly what has been happening throughout

33:03

the democratic world in multiple different

33:06

countries over at least the last

33:08

decade. And a lot

33:10

of people are noting that even

33:12

more now because of what happened

33:14

in France here from the New

33:16

York Times yesterday. Marine Le Pen

33:19

barred from French presidential run after

33:21

embezzlement ruling. Quote, the verdict effectively

33:23

barred the current front runner in

33:25

the 2027 presidential election. You're going

33:27

to see how common that fact

33:29

is in all of these cases.

33:31

She's the current front runner in

33:34

the 2027 presidential election, meaning the

33:36

French people, the French citizens. A

33:38

plurality of them, or a majority

33:40

of them, want Marine Le Pen

33:42

to be their next president. But

33:44

it bars her from the 27th

33:46

presidential election from participating in it

33:48

an extraordinary step, but one the

33:51

presiding judge said was necessary, because

33:53

nobody is entitled to quote immunity

33:55

in violation of the rule of

33:57

law. Jordan Bardella, Ms. Le Penne's...

33:59

and a likely presidential candidate in

34:01

her absence set on social media,

34:03

quote, not only has Marine Le

34:05

Pen been unjustly convicted, French democracy

34:08

has been executed. The verdict infuriated

34:10

Ms. Le Pen, an anti-immigrant nationalist

34:12

politician who has already mounted three

34:14

failed presidential bids, I mean, failed

34:16

in a very literal sense that

34:18

she didn't win. But her party

34:20

and she have been. that the

34:23

party as founded by her father

34:25

was a very fringe party and

34:27

under her leadership it has become

34:29

a mainstream party one of the

34:31

most powerful parties in France she

34:33

made the runoff twice so it's

34:35

failure in the sense she didn't

34:37

become the president but it's hard

34:40

to say these are failures in

34:42

the sense that the French people

34:44

rejected her she's been gaining more

34:46

and more support over the years

34:48

to the point where her party

34:50

won first place... in the EU

34:52

parliamentary elections last year in France,

34:55

which is what really scared the

34:57

French establishment about the possibility that

34:59

she could actually become president. Murmuring,

35:01

quote, incredible, she briskly left the

35:03

courtroom before the hearing was over.

35:05

Ms. La Penn, looking grim, told

35:07

TF1 television that after the ruling

35:09

was a, quote, political attempt to

35:12

thwart her. She said that millions

35:14

of French people were outraged and

35:16

she vowed to fight back despite

35:18

slim chances of legal success. Quote,

35:20

let's be clear, she said, I

35:22

am eliminated, but in reality it's

35:24

millions of French people whose voices

35:27

have been eliminated. Notice I have

35:29

not uttered a syllable about what

35:31

I think of Marie Le Pen

35:33

or her politics or anything like

35:35

that because it's completely irrelevant. If

35:37

you actually believe in democracy as

35:39

the premier way to select our

35:41

leaders, which I do. It

35:45

should be disturbing if it has

35:47

actually becoming a weapon to exploit

35:49

the judicial system or use law

35:51

fair to defeat your political opponents

35:53

not at the ballot box not

35:55

by giving the people in the

35:57

country the choice to vote for

35:59

but by prohibiting them from becoming

36:01

on the ballot. If it were

36:03

just one case, then you'd have

36:06

to spend a lot of time

36:08

debating Marine Lippen's case. And we're

36:10

going to have somebody on this

36:12

week who has been following Marine

36:14

Lippen's case closely, who understands the

36:16

intricacies of French law in a

36:18

way I don't, so I'm not

36:20

sitting here pounding on the validity

36:22

or otherwise of her conviction, just

36:25

the fact that it has now

36:27

become part of an obvious trend.

36:29

where politicians like her, especially when

36:31

they become too popular, are being

36:33

banned. And there are a lot

36:35

of people in France who are

36:37

saying so, including people who are,

36:39

to put it mildly, not marine

36:41

Le Penfrens. One of them is

36:44

the leftist politician, Jean-Luc-Milanchang, who has

36:46

found more popularity too, and he

36:48

put out a statement on X

36:50

about this, and it's in French,

36:52

but the highlighted portion is the

36:54

part that we... think is most

36:56

relevant where he said the decision

36:58

to remove an elected official should

37:00

be up to the people. Meaning,

37:03

even if you find her guilty,

37:05

okay, the people decide whether they

37:07

want her as president. We're in

37:09

Walkies, who is the head of

37:11

the right-wing Republicans, said something similar,

37:13

and he posted a... tweet on

37:15

X as well and the translation

37:17

is quote the decision to convict

37:19

marine lipent is both waiting exceptional

37:22

and democracy is unhealthy for an

37:24

elected official to be barred from

37:26

running for office. Political debates must

37:28

be decided at the ballot box

37:30

by the French people. Oh no,

37:32

it seems extremely obvious to me.

37:34

In the United States, of course,

37:36

even if you're convicted of a

37:38

crime, then it doesn't mean that

37:41

you can't run. The socialist leader

37:43

Eugene Debs ran for president as

37:45

a third-party candidate during the Wilson

37:47

administration from prison Had the Democrats

37:49

succeeded in convicting and imprisoning Trump

37:51

before the election as they were

37:53

desperately trying to do that would

37:55

not have resulted in his being

37:57

banned from the ballot. He could

37:59

have run even as a convicted

38:02

felon. In fact, they did convict

38:04

him of a felony charge or

38:06

multiple repetitive felony charges in New

38:08

York and he still was permitted

38:10

to win and the American people

38:12

decided. We know he was convicted,

38:14

we don't trust that conviction, we

38:16

think it's politically motivated, and in

38:18

any event we want him to

38:21

be our president. That's what democracy

38:23

means. The Democrats tried other ways

38:25

to get him banned from the

38:27

ballot as we'll get to, and

38:29

they almost succeeded, that was clearly

38:31

their role, In the United States,

38:33

at least, it's left to the

38:35

people to decide. That's what a

38:37

lot of French politicians across the

38:40

political spectrum are saying. Here is

38:42

the polling data, the most recent

38:44

polling data on the French presidential

38:46

elections from the International Market Research

38:48

Group on March 31st, intentions to

38:50

vote in the presidential election, quote,

38:52

two years before the next presidential

38:54

election, an IFOP poll for the

38:56

Journal de Dimanche reveals the voting

38:59

intentions of the French people for

39:01

the next presidential election in the

39:03

most favorable scenario. The national rally

39:05

candidate would collect 37% of voting

39:07

intentions, that's marine lopens party, nearly

39:09

14 points more than her score

39:11

in the first round in 2022.

39:13

Edward Philippe appears to be the

39:15

best place candidate to qualify for

39:18

the second round against marine pen.

39:20

His score ranges between 20 and

39:22

25% depending on the different configurations

39:24

tested. So she's not just leading

39:26

in the polls, she's leaving the

39:28

polls by far. Not enough to

39:30

avoid a runoff. She's made the

39:32

runoff twice now and lost to

39:34

McCrone. But the question is not,

39:36

is Marilyn Penn going to be

39:39

in the second round? She for

39:41

sure will be. The question is,

39:43

who can get just enough to

39:45

make it with her? And unlike

39:47

in the past in France where

39:49

that party was considered toxic and

39:51

off limits where everybody would unite

39:53

to prevent... it from gaining any

39:55

power. That's not really the case

39:58

anymore. I mean you did see

40:00

that in the subsequent parliamentary elections

40:02

in France that McCrone called... after

40:04

Marine LePense Party won the EU

40:06

parliamentary elections and he called new

40:08

elections for the parliament, so the

40:10

parliament called new elections and the

40:12

left-wing coalition led by Milan Shaw

40:14

but he wasn't really the candidate

40:17

because he's too... he only needs

40:19

too many people outside the actual

40:21

left, came in first, Macron's party

40:23

came in second, LePense party came

40:25

in third but it was very

40:27

closely disputed. So

40:29

there's the possibility that there could

40:32

be a coalition to defeat her.

40:34

We're likely never to find out

40:36

because the French establishment is too

40:39

afraid to let her run on

40:41

the ballot is fear that she

40:43

might win. As I said, if

40:46

that were an isolated case, we

40:48

could just sort of say, well,

40:51

is Marine World Patent guilty? That's

40:53

the French law, but it's by

40:55

far not an isolated case. It

40:58

is become the common scenario. Here

41:00

from the BBC. the case of

41:02

Brazil and the ex-Brazilian president Jayor

41:05

Bolsonar, the right-wing populist, who actually

41:07

shocked the country, shocked Brazil, when

41:10

he won the presidency in 2018,

41:12

over the Workers' Party of Lula

41:14

De Silva, which had dominated Brazilian

41:17

politics, had occupied the presidency from

41:19

2002 when the little first won,

41:21

until 2016, when his successor Doma

41:24

Rousseff was impeached. And

41:26

her vice president took over, but

41:28

he didn't even bother running again.

41:30

He was widely hated. So in

41:33

2018, that was the first election

41:35

that the Workers' Party didn't win

41:37

since 2002, 16 years earlier. They

41:39

dominated Brazilian politics. Ironically, in 2018,

41:42

Lool was intending to run again,

41:44

and he was leading in polls

41:46

early on, and he ended up

41:48

being imprisoned, convicted, and imprisoned on

41:51

corruption charges, and so he was

41:53

not allowed to run on the

41:55

ballot, and that opened the... path

41:57

for Molsonaro. What actually happened there

41:59

was the center. has always wanted

42:02

to dominate Brazilian politics. They're the

42:04

party of the Brazilian media, the

42:06

big media conglomerates, kind of like

42:08

Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell

42:11

type party, George W. Bush, Dick

42:13

Cheney, like classic center-right figures, even

42:15

right-wing figures, but who are very

42:17

pro-establishment hate the way those figures

42:20

hate Donald Trump. the center right

42:22

in Brazil despises Bolsonara, but they

42:24

thought by impeaching Dilma and then

42:26

in President Lula, they would be

42:29

an easy path to victory because

42:31

they were always the party second

42:33

to Lula, kind of like Marine

42:35

LePetta Macaron, they just couldn't ever

42:38

beat the workers' party. So they

42:40

thought once they get rid of

42:42

Ula, they got Bolsonaro, who they

42:44

hated more than Lula. And Bolsonar

42:46

won by a sizable margin against

42:49

the workers' party in 2018 in

42:51

the runoff. And then in 2022,

42:53

everyone knew that there was only

42:55

one person who could beat Bolsonaro,

42:58

and that was Lula, who was

43:00

in prison, so the Supreme Court

43:02

of Brazil invalidated his conviction. After

43:04

upholding it many times, they actually

43:07

used the excuse of the reporting

43:09

that I did with my colleagues

43:11

there that showed prosecutors and judges

43:13

and judges and cheated. But that

43:16

was just their pretext. They only

43:18

let a little out of prison.

43:20

They wouldn't have let him out

43:22

no matter what we reported, had

43:25

they not wanted to. They only

43:27

let him out because they knew

43:29

that only he had a chance

43:31

to beat Bolsonaro. But even with

43:34

everything that happened to Bolsonaro, the

43:36

entire establishment against him, COVID, ruining

43:38

the Brazilian economy, shutting down the

43:40

economy, all of those scandals about

43:42

vaccines and lockdowns, and countless. Corruption

43:45

charges running against what had been

43:47

the most popular president of Brazil,

43:49

the popular politician in Brazil, well,

43:51

the so, but that election was

43:54

extremely close, decided by about one

43:56

point. All night Bilsenar was leading,

43:58

kind of at the last minute.

44:00

will overtake him, but it was

44:03

an extremely close election. And now

44:05

Lula's popularity is plummeting. His presidency

44:07

is unraveled. He's about to be

44:09

80 years old. Bolsonaro is not

44:12

young himself. He's about four years

44:14

younger, three years younger. But the

44:16

country is not happy at all

44:18

with Lula, and people are very

44:21

afraid of his chances to be

44:23

reelected. There's a high likelihood he's

44:25

going to lose, especially if he

44:27

runs against Gair Bolsonaro. But fortunately

44:29

for the Brazilian establishment, Bolsonar can't

44:32

run because two years ago he

44:34

was declared ineligible and now they're

44:36

about to convict him before the

44:38

Supreme Court uncharges that he engineered

44:41

a coup or tried to engineer

44:43

a coup. Which probably sounds familiar

44:45

to the American ear since that

44:47

was a charge against Trump as

44:50

well Here from the BBC on

44:52

March 26 Brazil's Bolsonaro to stand

44:54

trial on coup charges court rules

44:56

quote the Supreme Court's five-member panel

44:59

voted unanimously in favor of the

45:01

trial going ahead And by the

45:03

way this five-member panel that's deciding

45:05

His fate They could have given

45:08

it to the entire 11 judge

45:10

court But they instead gave it

45:12

to one part of the court

45:14

that's five judges that's composed of

45:16

Lua's personal attorney who represented him

45:19

in all those corruption cases who

45:21

he then appointed the Supreme Court.

45:23

Lua's left-wing ally and justice minister,

45:25

who he also appointed the Supreme

45:28

Court, and Alice Andadi Mirai, she

45:30

has become the figure of Brazilian

45:32

censorship, who's obsessed with destroying the

45:34

Bolsenara movements, and three of the

45:37

five judges, are completely in Lua's

45:39

pocket. Quote it

45:41

could the trial could start as early

45:43

as a seer and have found guilty

45:45

Bolsonaro 70 so he's actually Nine years

45:47

younger than Lula could face years in

45:49

prison speaking after the court's decision Bolsonaro

45:52

told a press conference the charges against

45:54

him were quote grave and baseless He

45:56

has always denied trying to block Lula's

45:58

inauguration the panel was tasked with determining

46:00

whether there was enough evidence to put

46:02

Bolsonaro on trial, the first to cast

46:05

his vote. On

46:07

Wednesday, was the judge heading the

46:09

panel, Alice, under DeMarice. He recommended

46:11

that Bolsonaro, as well as seven

46:13

other former government officials, described by

46:15

the Attorney General as, quote, co-conspirators,

46:18

stand trial over the events which

46:20

led up to the storming of

46:22

government buildings by his supporters on

46:24

8th of January, 2023, a week

46:26

after a little inauguration. A federal

46:29

police investigation into the riots and

46:31

the eventual leading up to them

46:33

was launched. There are 884 page

46:35

report, which was released in November

46:37

2024. Bolsonaro planned, acted, and was

46:39

directly and effectively aware of the

46:42

actions of the criminal organization aiming

46:44

to launch a coup d'etat and

46:46

eliminate the democratic rule of the

46:48

democratic rule of law. Brazil's Attorney

46:50

General, Apollo Gonais, went even further

46:53

in his report last month in

46:55

which he accused Bolsonar of not

46:57

just being aware of but actually

46:59

leading the criminal organization that he

47:01

said is taught to overthrow Lula.

47:03

According to Ghanay's report, the alleged...

47:06

The Supreme Court Justice, by the

47:08

way, he's the alleged victim of

47:10

the spot as well, but doesn't

47:12

mind that at all, he's still

47:14

going to sit in judgment, even

47:17

though he's the victim, the investigator,

47:19

and the judge. That's the Supreme

47:21

Court Justice who headed the panel,

47:23

which has now decided that the

47:25

case should proceed to trial. While

47:27

he has already barred from running

47:30

for public office until 2030 for

47:32

falsely claiming that Brazil's voting system

47:34

was vulnerable to fraud, Bolsonaro has

47:36

declared, declared his intention to fight

47:38

that ban so we could run

47:40

for a second term in 2026.

47:43

Let me just be clear there.

47:45

He is now criminally charged with

47:47

planning and plotting a violent coup

47:49

once in little one that would

47:51

reinstall Bolsonaro. We haven't had the

47:54

trial yet. All we have are

47:56

media leaks. Now the police report

47:58

under the control of Lewis government

48:00

and Marais. I don't find the

48:02

evidence. particularly persuasive but that will

48:04

be decided as it should be

48:07

in a trial unfortunately he's unlikely

48:09

to get a fair trial but

48:11

that isn't why he's banned from

48:13

running he was already banned from

48:15

running completely independent of these allegations

48:18

of violent coup and that's due

48:20

to the fact that before the

48:22

election happened in 2022 and then

48:24

after he lost he alleged that

48:26

there was voting machine fraud and

48:28

for that and that alone The

48:31

Supreme Court decided he's now ineligible

48:33

to run that that was an

48:35

abuse of power, an attack on

48:37

democracy. And I should also say

48:39

that during that 2022 campaign, when

48:41

Biden was president in Brazil, that

48:44

2022 campaign, Biden dispatched the CIA,

48:46

he dispatched Jake Sullivan, his national

48:48

security advisor, and other top officials

48:50

to go to Brazil and interfere

48:52

in that election by essentially saying

48:55

that Bolsonaro's claims of voting fraud

48:57

are completely threatening Brazil with... punishments

49:00

or consequences, warning Bolsonaro not to

49:02

raise the issue of election fraud

49:04

at the same time the USAID

49:07

was funding the censorship groups, the

49:09

disinformation groups that were systematically censoring

49:12

Bolsonaro supporters in countless ways that

49:14

we reported on many times before.

49:16

So his banning from the ballot,

49:19

similar to the way Marine Lippen

49:21

was banned. Happen

49:23

not because of these criminal allegations

49:25

of a coup, but because of

49:27

those allegations that he made of

49:30

voting machine fraud. Here from the

49:32

AP in June of 2023, this

49:34

is before he was indicted on

49:36

the coup. Allegations. Brazil's gayer Bolsonaro

49:38

is barred from running for office

49:40

until 2030. Quote, five judges on

49:42

the nation's highest electoral court agreed

49:44

that Bolsonaro used government communication channels

49:47

to promote his campaign and so

49:49

distrust about the vote. Two judges

49:51

voted against the move to ban

49:53

him. The case focused on a

49:55

July 18, 2022 meeting where Bolsonaro

49:57

used government staffers, the state television

49:59

channel, and the presidential palace in

50:01

Brazilia to tell foreign ambassadors that

50:03

the country's electronic voting system was

50:06

rigged. In her decisive vote that

50:08

formed that three to two majority,

50:10

Judge Carmen Lucia, who was also

50:12

a Supreme Court judge, said, quote,

50:14

the facts are incontrovertible. The meeting

50:16

did take place. It was convened

50:18

by then president. The then president,

50:20

its context is available. It was

50:22

examined by everyone, and there was

50:25

never a denial that it did

50:27

happen, she said. Melos said the

50:29

decision is quote very unlikely to

50:31

be overturned or removes Bolsonar from

50:33

the 2024 and 2028 municipal elections

50:35

as well as the 2022 general

50:37

elections. The former president also faces

50:39

other legal troubles including criminal investigations,

50:42

convictions could extend his ban by

50:44

years and subject him to imprisonment.

50:46

Former President Fernando Collor de Mello

50:48

and current President Lucienasio Lullo and

50:50

Asiouva were declared ineligible in the

50:52

past, but Bolsonaro's case marks the

50:54

first time a president has been

50:56

suspended for election violations rather than

50:58

a criminal offense. Brazilian law forbids

51:01

candidates with criminal sentences from running

51:03

for office, quote, the decision will

51:05

end Bolsonaro's chances of being president

51:07

again and he knows it, said

51:09

Carlos Mello, a political science professor.

51:11

of Professor Ed in Serp University

51:13

in Sao Paulo. After this, he

51:15

will try to stay out of

51:17

jail, elect some of his allies

51:20

to keep his political capital, but

51:22

it is very unlikely he will

51:24

ever return to the presidency. Now,

51:26

all of this is very, very,

51:28

very, very fortunate in an incredibly

51:30

coincidental way for the Brazilian establishment

51:32

in Bolsonaro's enemies, and that's because

51:34

Bolsonaro had said he wants to

51:37

run again in 2026 against Lula,

51:39

he wants to be reelected. Very

51:41

similar to Donald Trump got elected

51:43

in. 2018 Bolsonar did, lost by

51:45

a tiny margin in the interim,

51:47

and then now intends to run

51:49

again to become, to assume his

51:51

second term, and polls show that

51:53

he is very likely to win.

51:56

Here from the Brazilian outlet wall

51:58

on March 29th. The

52:00

headline is, though, an eligible Bolsonaro

52:02

leads with 41% for 2026, compared

52:05

to Lula's 26% poll says. It's

52:07

a 15-point lead that Bolsonaro has

52:09

among the people of Brazil who

52:12

should decide who they want as

52:14

the president. Here from CNN, Brazil

52:17

has a CNN, is contaminated and

52:19

infected with CNN. The Brazilian version.

52:21

A separate poll shows this, quote,

52:24

Lula would lose to Bolsonaro and

52:26

his wife Michelle Bolsonaro in an

52:28

eventual second round runoff, says the,

52:31

says polls. In the scenario with

52:33

Bolsonaro, who is eligible to run

52:36

until 2020-30, the former president reaches

52:38

51.1% and Gula 37.3%, which is

52:40

a 14-point lead. With Michelle Bolsonaro,

52:43

whose Bolsonaro, whose Bolsonaro his wife,

52:45

the firmer first lady has 48.

52:47

and the current chief executive has

52:50

37.3%. So even Bolsonaro's wife, who's

52:52

never been elected to public office,

52:55

was the first lady of the

52:57

country, has a non-point, nine-point lead

52:59

over Lula. But obviously, they'd much

53:02

rather run against her than run

53:04

against she or Bolsonaro, who has

53:06

already proven that he can become,

53:09

can win a national election. Here's

53:11

why the establishment is so scared

53:14

of him, they threw everything out

53:16

him during his first term. And

53:18

remember, I'm not commenting on my

53:21

views of my views of Bolsonaro.

53:24

As I said, I did

53:26

the reporting that ended up

53:28

being the pretax for the

53:30

Supreme Court to allow Wula

53:32

out of prison to invalidate

53:34

his convictions. And when I

53:36

did, Bolsonaro threatened me several

53:38

times explicitly with prison. I

53:40

ended up being criminally indicted

53:42

for that reporting, although the

53:44

Supreme Court had a press

53:46

freedom ruling that required dismissal

53:48

of those charges. So I've

53:50

had a lot of acrimony-assistory

53:52

with Bolsonara, but just like

53:54

Maureen La Pen. There is

53:56

nothing to do with... any

53:58

of this. Again, I actually

54:00

believe in democracy. I think

54:02

the president should be determined

54:05

by who Here's what happened

54:07

in 2022. If we can

54:09

go back to that, just

54:11

as a reminder, because they

54:13

threw everything at Bolsonaro, they

54:15

thought that they were behind

54:17

the candidate, Lua, who was

54:19

incredibly popular, and yet here

54:21

from the Alpai's, October 31st,

54:23

2022, the day after the

54:25

election, the headline, Loua, defeats

54:27

Bolsonaro in the closest election

54:29

in Brazil's history. Louisville, the

54:31

leftist former president will govern

54:33

Brazil for the third time

54:35

after securing just under 51%

54:37

of the vote. With 99.7%

54:39

of the votes counted, Lewis

54:41

stood at 50.89% with 67-year-old

54:43

Bolshnaro, close behind at 49.1%.

54:45

So about a 1.7% difference.

54:47

The Brazilian left will return

54:49

to power six years after

54:52

their last president, Dilma Rousseff

54:54

was impeached. So like in

54:56

France, the Bolsonar problem is

54:58

solved, who cares if he's

55:00

leading in the polls, who

55:02

cares if a majority of

55:04

Brazilians want him as president?

55:06

Nope. Banned from the ballot

55:08

in the name of saving

55:10

democracy. Obviously, everybody remembers that

55:12

Trump faced four felony indictments

55:14

in four different jurisdictions to

55:16

state, two federal. And

55:19

that was the Democratic strategy was to

55:21

imprison Trump before the election. They never

55:24

were able to do that, but they

55:26

tried. But beyond that, they also just

55:28

wanted him banned from the ballot independent

55:30

of criminal convictions by claiming that the

55:33

constitutional provision banning people who led an

55:35

insurrection from running for high office should

55:37

apply to ban Trump even though he

55:40

had never been charged with insurrection, rather

55:42

never convicted of insurrection. I've actually never

55:44

even charged with it. Congress hadn't declared

55:47

him ineligible, but the Democrats got a

55:49

four to three majority on the Colorado

55:51

Supreme Court for Democratic judges to say

55:53

that Trump is ineligible to run again.

55:56

In December 19th, they banned him from

55:58

the ballot. Quote, the four to three

56:00

ruling, which rests on an interpretation of

56:03

the 14th Amendment, will almost certainly force

56:05

the issue to the U.S. Supreme Court

56:07

to resolve whether Trump, the leading candidate

56:10

for the Republican nomination, is actually eligible

56:12

to hold future approval in public office.

56:14

The Colorado court ruled that Trump cannot

56:17

appear on the state's presidential ballot next

56:19

year, but the ruling will not take

56:21

effect immediately to give Trump time to

56:23

appeal. The court, which consists entirely of

56:26

democratic appointees, and even there it was

56:28

four to three, is the first in

56:30

the nation to side with activists and

56:33

voters who have filed numerous lawsuits around

56:35

the country claiming that Trump is barred

56:37

from office under the 14th Amendment's insurrection

56:40

clause. That cause states that anyone who

56:42

quote, engage in insurrection or rebellion, after

56:44

taking an oath of office to support

56:46

the Constitution, is forbidden from holding any

56:49

public office. And then shortly after the...

56:51

Colorado Supreme Court banned him, several attorneys

56:53

general in blue states, came out with

56:56

rulings that citing the same rationale to

56:58

ban him from the ballot in the

57:00

Supreme Court, ultimately decided by nine to

57:03

zero, that only Congress had the power

57:05

to do that, that individual states can't

57:07

go around adjudicating these things on their

57:09

own and put Trump back on the

57:12

ballot. If the Democrats tried to do

57:14

what friends did to Murray and the

57:16

Penjus this week, what Brazil has done

57:19

to Bolsonar, they tried to just win

57:21

by just eliminating their competition. Here

57:25

from Business Insider August 15th Trump faces

57:27

a total of 91 felony criminal charges

57:29

across his criminal indictments Hush money settlement

57:31

to stormy Daniels the first criminal case

57:33

against Trump is a state case Connected

57:35

to a hundred and thirty thousand hush

57:37

money payment to the adult film actor

57:39

stormy Daniels in a June indictment federal

57:41

prosecutor's alleged Trump took classified documents with

57:43

them from the White House Tomorrow Lago

57:46

then failed then tried to foil the

57:48

government's efforts to get them back He

57:50

was charged with 37 felonies in that

57:52

case over the alleged quote, willful worth

57:54

tension of national defense information. Later that

57:56

month, the superseding indictment in the case

57:58

dropped. adding three additional counts against the

58:00

former president, bringing the total in the

58:02

classified documents case to 40. January 6th

58:04

capital insurrection, Trump was hit with four

58:07

more charges in connection with his involvement

58:09

in the January 6th capital riot, and

58:11

his attempt to overturn the 2020 election,

58:13

and then Georgia on Monday, Trump was

58:15

indicted in that state in connection with

58:17

his attempts to overturn the 2020 election

58:19

in the state. Trump faces 13 felony

58:21

charges in the RICO case, a type

58:23

of criminal case usually used against organized

58:25

crime, and 18 other Trump allies were

58:28

also charged. Democrats

58:30

really made no phones about

58:32

the fact that they were

58:34

using these multiple investigations to

58:37

try and win the election.

58:39

Here is Joe Biden in

58:41

October of 2024, just a

58:43

couple weeks before the 2024

58:45

election, and this is what

58:47

he said. I know this

58:49

sounds bizarre. It sounds like

58:52

I said this five years

58:54

ago you locked me up.

58:56

We got to like him

58:58

out. Okay, so

59:00

first of all, while everybody was clapping

59:02

for a lock him up, meaning put

59:05

him in prison, obviously, Biden muttered politically

59:07

lock him up, whatever that means. We're

59:09

all coming up, has a pretty, no

59:11

meaning. Remember, Trump, to the horror of

59:13

so many Democrats, said we have to

59:16

lock Hillary up, they had those lock

59:18

her up chance of 2016, now here's

59:20

Joe Biden right before the election, and

59:22

we have to lock him up. They

59:25

wanted to put, looking up holes showing

59:27

that Trump was, had a good chance

59:29

of winning. Just out

59:31

of desperation, they're like, we got

59:33

to put him in prison. We

59:36

got to lock him up. Like

59:38

we're all the bad countries do.

59:40

Here is Maxine Waters in 2024.

59:43

It says 2025 in the screen,

59:45

but it's 2024 heading into the

59:47

election. She said, quote, our democracy

59:49

is truly at risk. Trump has

59:52

corrupted the Supreme Court and the

59:54

federal judiciary. This latest decision by.

59:56

U.S. District Judge Alan Cannon, who

59:59

was the judge overseeing the documents

1:00:01

case in South Florida, is a

1:00:03

brazen, outrageous distortion of the law.

1:00:05

Trump stole classified documents after leaving

1:00:08

office and stored them in Aralaga

1:00:10

with his love for Putin and

1:00:12

Russia. I hope he did not

1:00:15

give highly classified documents to his

1:00:17

friend Putin. Trump is destroying our

1:00:19

democracy. He should be tried, found

1:00:21

guilty, and jail. That's the part

1:00:24

I always love the most. That

1:00:26

the people who are calling for their...

1:00:28

Political opponents to be

1:00:30

imprisoned and banned from the

1:00:32

ballot always say the reason is because

1:00:35

the opponents are the ones destroying

1:00:37

democracy and therefore the solution is

1:00:39

he should be tried found guilty

1:00:42

and jailed prevented from running. And

1:00:44

that's what they've been doing in all

1:00:46

of these countries. Here from the New

1:00:49

York Times on the day in December

1:00:51

of 2023 that the Colorado Supreme Court

1:00:53

by four to three banned Trump from

1:00:55

the ballot. They had a cross tab

1:00:58

new poll release from the New York

1:01:00

Times and Siena. That said Donald Trump

1:01:02

leads Joe Biden by 46 to

1:01:04

44 percent among registered voters. So the

1:01:06

Colorado Supreme Court in a blue state

1:01:09

saw Trump had a good chance to win.

1:01:11

He was leading in most polls against

1:01:13

Biden. And you know what? Let's

1:01:15

just prevent him from running on

1:01:17

the ballot, even though he hasn't been

1:01:19

charged with a long convicted of

1:01:22

insurrection. Let's just say he can't run.

1:01:25

The Wall Street Journal in December of

1:01:28

2023, right at the same time,

1:01:30

Trump takes 2024 lead as Biden

1:01:32

approval hits new low, Wall Street

1:01:34

Journal poll finds, unhappiness with Biden's

1:01:36

performance is pervasive, with economic pessimism

1:01:38

weighing him down. He lags four

1:01:41

points behind Donald Trump, 47 to

1:01:43

43% on a hypothetical battle with

1:01:45

only those two candidates. Trump's lead

1:01:47

expands to six points, when five

1:01:50

potential third party and independent candidates

1:01:52

are added to the mix. So they were

1:01:54

panicking. They knew Trump was going to win if he

1:01:56

were allowed to be on the ballot. I

1:02:00

mean, you could see that

1:02:02

support for Joe Biden collapsing

1:02:04

rapidly, if for no other

1:02:06

reason than just people understood

1:02:08

that he was mentally unfit,

1:02:10

that he was cognitively impaired

1:02:12

and could not actually manage

1:02:15

the country. So that's another

1:02:17

country where they tried there,

1:02:19

they didn't succeed in actually

1:02:21

getting Trump off the ballot,

1:02:23

but they certainly tried the

1:02:25

name of democracy to ban

1:02:27

their opponent as well. And

1:02:29

then in Romania, I think

1:02:31

we might even have actually

1:02:33

the... most flagrant and glaring

1:02:35

case. Because there they actually

1:02:37

had an election. And the

1:02:39

first round was won by

1:02:41

a previously obscure right wing

1:02:43

populist with the EU and

1:02:45

the US. The Romanians invalidated

1:02:47

the election. So let's just

1:02:49

have another election. Saw that

1:02:51

that Canada was like going

1:02:54

to win again. And we're

1:02:56

like this time we're going

1:02:58

to ban him. So we

1:03:00

can't win. Here from political

1:03:02

EU in November 2025. This

1:03:04

is December 2024, I think.

1:03:06

Alternate debt, December 2024. Ultranationalist

1:03:08

candidate scores a stunning first-round

1:03:10

win in the Romani election.

1:03:12

Georgescu won with 22.94% of

1:03:14

the vote. He was followed

1:03:16

by liberal reformist candidate, Elena

1:03:18

Laskani, at 19.1% in second

1:03:20

place, after she edged the

1:03:22

head of Senator Marcel Sioluku

1:03:24

on 19.5%. A difference of

1:03:26

just over 2,700 votes. An

1:03:28

early exit poll suggested that

1:03:30

Siiluku and Laskani were set

1:03:32

to qualify for the presidential

1:03:35

runoff, but Georgians surged into

1:03:37

the, but Georgescu, surged into

1:03:39

the lead as vote. continued

1:03:41

Sunday night, heralding a result

1:03:43

that is set to up-end

1:03:45

Romanian politics. So they have

1:03:47

this populist right-wing candidate, hostile

1:03:49

to the EU, opposed to

1:03:51

the war in Ukraine, not

1:03:53

wanting to adopt the European

1:03:55

view that Europe is at

1:03:57

war with Russia. And

1:04:00

candidates like that have won throughout

1:04:02

the EU. Even in Slovakia, which

1:04:05

had long been an ardent opponent

1:04:07

of Russia because of the history

1:04:09

of the Cold War, Robert Fico,

1:04:12

a former Prime Minister, ran on

1:04:14

a platform in late 2023 of

1:04:16

stopping aid to Ukraine, and he

1:04:19

won. He was then almost killed

1:04:21

in an assassination attempt, but he

1:04:23

still weren't in the country. He

1:04:25

miraculously survived that. So here's another

1:04:28

right-wing populist in Europe, hostile to

1:04:30

the EU opposed to the war

1:04:32

in Ukraine, that the establishment hates,

1:04:35

who shocked the establishment because they

1:04:37

had two candidates they were happy

1:04:39

with when he came in first

1:04:42

in the first round of voting.

1:04:44

And as a result, because they

1:04:46

didn't get the outcome they wanted,

1:04:49

here's what happened from political EU

1:04:51

December. 6th 2024 quote the remaining

1:04:53

court cancels the presidential election amid

1:04:56

Russian influence fears quote the court

1:04:58

decision plunged the strategically important EU

1:05:00

and NATO member state exactly they're

1:05:02

strategically important that's why we can't

1:05:05

allow an election by the remaining

1:05:07

people that doesn't give us the

1:05:09

candidate that we want plunged it

1:05:12

into chaos inflaming divisions that opened

1:05:14

up a far right outsider after

1:05:16

a far right outsider came from

1:05:19

nowhere to win the first round

1:05:21

in the presidential contest two weeks

1:05:23

ago. Ultra Nationalists calling Georgescu, Bennett

1:05:26

fritted from a Tiktok campaign that

1:05:28

was similar to the influence operation

1:05:30

run by the Kremlin in Ukraine

1:05:32

and Moldova according to declassified Romanian

1:05:35

intelligence documents. The file said Moscow

1:05:37

was targeting Romania as an enemy

1:05:39

state using quote aggressive hybrid actions

1:05:42

a view backed by the United

1:05:44

States. The second round runoff was

1:05:46

due to be held on Sunday

1:05:49

and voting has already begun in

1:05:51

Romanian diaspora communities and other countries.

1:05:53

The court simply canceled the process

1:05:56

completely, leaving voters bemused as they

1:05:58

turned up to cast their ballots.

1:06:00

Now, look at what they did

1:06:03

there. They basically concocted their own

1:06:05

rush against. They said, yes, this

1:06:07

candidate that we hate won the

1:06:09

election, Farron Square, came in first,

1:06:12

but there were some ads on

1:06:14

TikTok that helped him that we

1:06:16

think came from Russia. So our

1:06:19

election is invalid, the Russians interfered.

1:06:21

Just like they tried to do

1:06:23

in 2016, like, hey, we found

1:06:26

some Facebook pages and some Twitter

1:06:28

bots that seemed like they came

1:06:30

from Russia, and that makes Trump

1:06:33

and illegitimate president. the theory that

1:06:35

they used. Now, leaving aside the

1:06:37

fact that the so-called interference by

1:06:39

Russia is quite small in the

1:06:42

context of millions of people going

1:06:44

to mode, do you think, does

1:06:46

anyone believe that the US and

1:06:49

the EU don't interfere at least

1:06:51

as much in these elections to

1:06:53

ensure the outcome that they want?

1:06:56

You think it's only Russia interfering

1:06:58

in the Romanian election? and not

1:07:00

the EU and the US, despite

1:07:03

how strategically important Romania is to

1:07:05

them, despite the fact that the

1:07:07

EU and the US took the

1:07:10

position that the election should be

1:07:12

nullified, that that can, it should

1:07:14

be banned. EU and US have

1:07:16

their fingerprints all over these countries

1:07:19

manipulating and funding opposition groups and

1:07:21

demanding certain outcomes. And then Russia

1:07:23

puts some Tiktok videos supposedly... in

1:07:26

support of their candidates. They want

1:07:28

to win. And the whole action

1:07:30

has to get validated. Do over.

1:07:33

We didn't get the candidate that

1:07:35

we wanted. In the name of

1:07:37

democracy, we have to cancel that

1:07:40

election because the candidate we hate

1:07:42

won. From CNN, March of 2025,

1:07:44

chaos erupts in Romania. It was

1:07:46

invalidating. Colin Giordetsky was candidacy due

1:07:49

to his quote failure to comply

1:07:51

with the electoral regulations. The decision

1:07:53

came just over a after Romanian

1:07:56

prosecutors opened a criminal investigation into

1:07:58

Dreyesco accusing them of crimes such

1:08:00

as attempting to subvert the constitutional

1:08:03

order and establishing a fascist organization,

1:08:05

evidently a fascist organization that Romanians

1:08:07

want to govern their country. Here

1:08:10

from the European Conservative January 2025,

1:08:12

former censorship czar of the France

1:08:14

and the EU admits a E-roll.

1:08:17

and annulling the remaining election. Quote,

1:08:19

Terry Brent Palm, you may remember

1:08:21

him, we've covered him before, he

1:08:23

was the EU official obsessed with

1:08:26

the censorship regime, wanted to ban

1:08:28

acts. He actually opened the criminal

1:08:30

investigation into acts after October 7th

1:08:33

on their EU laws, claiming that

1:08:35

there was too much disinformation that

1:08:37

Elon Musk was permitting against Israel.

1:08:40

That was their way to try

1:08:42

and get people on their side

1:08:44

against the Elon Musk. Oh, Elon

1:08:47

Musk is allowing too much anti

1:08:49

Israel disinformation disinformation. Anti-Israel disinformation, anti-Israel

1:08:51

disinformation. So he's in violation of

1:08:53

EU laws, and he was such

1:08:56

an extreme as he was forced

1:08:58

out. Even by European standards, he

1:09:00

was deranged. But he never goes

1:09:03

away, and here he was to

1:09:05

Air Brenton, the European Union's former

1:09:07

internal market commissioner, admitted it in

1:09:10

a French TV interview at the

1:09:12

end of last week that the

1:09:14

Romanian constitutional court vowed to EU

1:09:17

pressure. Remember, the reason they're saying

1:09:19

this election has to get canceled

1:09:21

and this candidate bowed is because

1:09:24

they are so upset the Russians

1:09:26

interfered yet. Here is a French

1:09:28

EU official admitting that the reason

1:09:30

the remaining constitutional court invalidated the

1:09:33

election is because of EU pressure.

1:09:35

Quote, it annulled the country's presidential

1:09:37

action last month following the first

1:09:40

round victory of the Eurosceptic. and

1:09:42

anti-NATO right-wing populist candidate, Colin Georgescu.

1:09:44

Democratic countries, citizens of democratic countries,

1:09:47

do not have the right to

1:09:49

vote for quote unquote right-wing populist

1:09:51

candidate, Europe's skeptic candidates, anti-NATO. candidates

1:09:54

that is not allowed, obviously, because

1:09:56

they have to bar those candidates

1:09:58

for running in order to save

1:10:00

remaining democracy and European democracy. Quote,

1:10:03

Brent Tan, who remains infamous as

1:10:05

the EU's self-styled digital enforcer, responsible

1:10:07

for the bloc's infamous online censorship

1:10:10

mechanism, the Digital Services Act, boasted,

1:10:12

boasted about Brussels interference, not Russia's

1:10:14

interference. In Romania as if it

1:10:17

was not only acceptable but even

1:10:19

a moral obligation to cancel democratic

1:10:21

elections based on the outcome. Brenton

1:10:24

then went further to add that

1:10:26

Germany can expect the same treatment

1:10:28

if the voters dare to elect

1:10:31

the alternative for Deutschland AFD party

1:10:33

in next month's federal elections, quote,

1:10:35

we have to prevent interferences and

1:10:37

make our laws apply, Brenton said,

1:10:40

referring to the alleged Russian involvement,

1:10:42

before admitting actual EU interference. Quote,

1:10:44

we did in Romania. and we

1:10:47

will obviously have to do it

1:10:49

in Germany if necessary. The view

1:10:51

of the Guardians of Democracy, the

1:10:54

safeguards of democracy, the people in

1:10:56

the war fighting anti-democratic forces, is

1:10:58

that you can have all the

1:11:01

elections you want, have free, just

1:11:03

keep voting. As long as the

1:11:05

candidates most likely to win that

1:11:07

they fear and hate most are

1:11:10

barred from the ballot so that

1:11:12

you can't vote for them. That's

1:11:14

what the democratic world now means.

1:11:17

That's what democracy in Europe and

1:11:19

the United States. parts of South

1:11:21

America, that's what it means. And

1:11:24

that's say nothing of the censorship

1:11:26

regime that they impose. EU officials

1:11:28

are also very up front about

1:11:31

the fact that they need this

1:11:33

censorship regime. Under these laws they

1:11:35

passed, the Digital Services Act, in

1:11:38

the EU, the Online Safety Act,

1:11:40

in the UK, various laws in

1:11:42

Canada, in Brazil. They claim they

1:11:44

need those because with elections imminent

1:11:47

they have to prevent the spread

1:11:49

of disinformation, meaning they have to

1:11:51

censor views. that they are most

1:11:54

afraid of, that they think will

1:11:56

help sink them in the election.

1:11:58

And what's happening here is very

1:12:01

obvious. These center left, center right,

1:12:03

neoliberal establishment orders are justifiably hated

1:12:05

by their populations, hated, despised. Even

1:12:08

when on a rare occasion one

1:12:10

of them wins, it's a total

1:12:12

fluke, like what happened in the

1:12:14

UK, where the Labour Party under

1:12:17

a circular starmer won, they won

1:12:19

what they... small percentage of the

1:12:21

vote, 34%, it was largely a

1:12:24

backlash against the corrupt leadership of

1:12:26

the Conservative Party of the Tories

1:12:28

under Boris Johnson and people like

1:12:31

that. And they were never popular,

1:12:33

this center left party, they are

1:12:35

now, I mean, as soon as

1:12:38

they won, Kirchear Starmer is heated

1:12:40

across Britain, has incredibly, so even

1:12:42

when they win, it's only a

1:12:45

very kind of fluke election. In

1:12:47

general, they're... so despised, even in

1:12:49

the UK where they won their

1:12:51

despise, but they eked out a

1:12:54

victory, but usually they're so despised

1:12:56

now, they know they're despised and

1:12:58

they free and fair election, they

1:13:01

cannot win. They cannot win with

1:13:03

free speech permitted. And they're cracking

1:13:05

down on all of the defining

1:13:08

core ingredients of what democracy means

1:13:10

and telling you in the most

1:13:12

or wellian way possible that they're

1:13:15

doing it because they're the ones

1:13:17

who have to save democracy, by

1:13:19

which they mean they have to

1:13:21

stay in power at all costs.

1:13:27

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