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Good evening, it's Wednesday, March 26th.

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Welcome to a new episode of

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System Update, our live nightly show

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that airs every single Monday through

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the controversy, one might say scandal

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arising out of the signal war

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planning chat, could and should have

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been a one-day story at most.

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Had Mike Walsh, the National

0:42

Security Advisor just admitted what

0:44

is plainly true? that he accidentally added the

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Atlantic editor and chief Jeffrey Goldberg to

0:49

their war planning chat, said he made

0:51

a mistake and pointed out that no

0:53

harm was done, nobody would be talking about

0:55

this anymore. Hopefully we'd be focusing on

0:57

the far more important question of whether

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Trump should have restarted Biden's war and

1:02

bombing campaign in Yemen and what the

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outcome is likely to be, but that's

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not what Walter other Trump officials did.

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They did the opposite. Walt has

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been issuing a series of increasingly

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embarrassing and highly impossible claims

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to justify what he did,

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largely because he seems petrified

1:20

of admitting that he actually

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did have Jeffrey Goldberg's contacts

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saved in his phone, because

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Goldberg is one of

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the most unscrupulous operatives in

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DC media, and Trump harbor's

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particular contempt for him. As

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a result of this refusal to simply

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admit error and move on by Mike

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Walsh, we have been drowned in a

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series of utterly ridiculous claims from the

1:44

administration, as well as from Goldberg and

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other Trump enemies that deserve scrutiny simply

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because it's a job, one of the

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most important jobs of a journalist, to

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sort through claims coming from government and corporate

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media to discern what is true and

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what is not. So that is what

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we will be doing. evaluating new evidence

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about the bombing campaign and the evidence

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itself and how it's being carried out.

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Then ever since Donald Trump made clear

2:08

his intentions to end the war in

2:10

Ukraine and in general withdraw from the

2:12

responsibility of financing Europe's defense, EU leaders

2:14

have seemed to delight in embracing all

2:17

sorts of tough guy war-mongering rhetoric about

2:19

how they intend to become a major

2:21

military power without the US, how they

2:23

will rearm, spend everything necessary to do

2:26

so, and how they will even fight

2:28

Russia. Unsurprisingly, given that this is Europe,

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these vows are proving to be completely

2:32

empty, as very few European countries actually

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have the ability or the political will

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to back up any of this tough

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talk with action. We'll show you the

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sad and darkly hilarious reality of Europe

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and the grand canyon-wide gap between their

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swaggering rhetoric and their impotent reality. And

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then finally, we reported on Monday night,

2:50

Monday night, about the hearing that was

2:53

held at the DC Court of Appeals,

2:55

where Trump Justice Department lawyers tried to

2:57

convince the appellate court to cancel or

2:59

abandon the lower court judges' stay on

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deporting illegal immigrants to prison in El

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Salvador without providing due process. At the

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time, we explained that the judges on

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the appellate court in oral arguments seemed

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aggressively hostile to the Trump Justice Department's

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theories as to why they were permitted

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to do this. Today... That three judge

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appellate court issued its ruling and by

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a two one-to-one decision, ordered that the

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injunction on these deportations to El Salvador

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remain in place. and pointed out what

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they see as the severe constitutional infirmities

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in these deportations, and even the dissenting

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judge acknowledged that before you can deport

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even an illegal alien to El Salvador,

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they are required to have due process.

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I wish I didn't have to

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talk about this whole

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signal Atlantic Yemen war

8:20

chat scandal because I

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actually don't think it's

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particularly significant in and

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of itself. I think what

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happened here is very obvious.

8:31

The Trump administration, particularly

8:33

Mike Waltz and Pete

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Hexeth, particularly Mike

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Waltz, were negligent, careless,

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reckless, I think all those terms

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apply, when using a unreliable

8:45

app to talk about extremely

8:47

sensitive war plans, a bombing

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campaign that they were about

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to initiate prior to its

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initiation. And Mike Waltz accidentally

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went to include somebody who

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worked for the government in

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that group and by accident chose

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a reporter, a highly unscrupulous

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and aggressively anti- Trump

9:06

reporter named Jeffrey Goldberg,

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the editor-in-chief of the Atlantic,

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accidentally chose his number

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and his contact saved in his phone

9:15

and put him into the group. And

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had Mike Waltz just admitted that, had

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he just said look? I have a lot

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of reporters named saved in my phone.

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I've been in Congress for a long

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time. We talked to reporters. I have a

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lot of lobbyists, a lot of, just like

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every other member of Congress. And I don't

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talk to Jeffrey Goldberg much, or maybe

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I've never even talked to him, but

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I had his number saved for some

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reason. I don't even remember, whatever. And

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when I created this group, I thought I

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was choosing somebody in the Trump administration and

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instead I accidentally put Jeffrey Goldberg in the

9:47

group, it was definitely a mistake, it was

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a bad mistake, I'm sorry I committed it,

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I'll be more careful in the future, no

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harm was done, the operation was a success.

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How did he just said that? The obvious truth,

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then there'd be nothing... else to talk

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about with this story. Everybody would

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have moved on. Democrats would have

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talked about it. MS NBC would

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have talked about it, but it

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really would have been nothing. But

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unfortunately, that's not what Mike

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Waltz did, and therefore, the Trump

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administration in defending him had

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to issue a series of

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statements that are blatantly,

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untrue on their face, and a lot

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of... The journalists, including Jeffrey Goldberg, have

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been making false claims as well, and

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the whole thing is this tsunami of

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false claims that we do feel

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now compelled to sort through because

10:34

when the government issues statements that

10:36

are highly implausible or questionable, it's the

10:39

job of a journalist to question those, to

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scrutinize those, to point out what we know

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and what is true. But there's also in

10:45

the chats that have now been released,

10:47

including new chats that were released by

10:49

the Atlantic today. insights into

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what exactly this bombing campaign in

10:53

Yemen is entailing the strategies being

10:56

used to bomb, who to kill,

10:58

how many civilians can be killed, and

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that is at least worth examining

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probably more so. So just to

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remind anybody who has not heard

11:07

of this story who's fortunate enough

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not to have heard of it,

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it all started yesterday when Jeffrey

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Goldberg, the editor-in-chief of

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the Atlantic... Again, I think one

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of the most unscrupulous operatives in

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all of D.C. media published this

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article after the Trump bombing campaign

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and Yemen resumed, the

11:26

Biden administration had been bombing

11:29

Yemen throughout 2024, despite during the

11:31

campaign, Trump saying he opposed the

11:33

bombing, thought it was unnecessary. He

11:35

decided to resume it and even

11:37

escalate it. Jeffrey Goldper published

11:40

this article. The Trump

11:42

administration accidentally texted me

11:44

its war plans. U.S. national security

11:46

leaders included me in a group

11:48

chat about upcoming military strikes in

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Yemen. I didn't think it could

11:52

be real. Then the bomb started

11:54

following. So he essentially revealed and

11:57

showed screenshots of the chat that

11:59

he had been included by Mike

12:01

Waltz into what is obviously an

12:03

extremely sensitive conversation that for some

12:06

reason took place over the commercial

12:08

app signal that everybody uses for

12:10

free even though the government spends

12:13

billions of dollars developing highly secure

12:15

encrypted communication for national security discussions

12:17

they decided to use signal and

12:19

they absolutely put Jeffrey Goldberg into

12:22

their planning about how they were

12:24

going to bomb Yemen. which is

12:26

obviously a secret, what aircraft they

12:29

were going to use to bomb

12:31

Yemen, what time the bombing was

12:33

going to start, and that's what

12:36

Jeffrey Goldberg revealed. And obviously what

12:38

had happened was Mike Walsh had

12:40

accidentally added him to the group,

12:43

but and of course that's not

12:45

the sort of information to which

12:47

a journalist, especially a hostile journalist,

12:49

but really no journalist. This is

12:52

clearly classified information. highly sensitive secret

12:54

information for government planning a bombing

12:56

campaign It's actually illegal to provide

12:59

that information to someone who's not

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authorized to receive classified information Which

13:03

is Jeffrey Goldberg and yet they

13:06

did they did it by accident

13:08

presumably And they should have just

13:10

said that so instead of that

13:12

The Trump administration once waltz came

13:15

out denied that he ever talked

13:17

to Jeffrey Goldberg didn't even think

13:19

he had his Contact in his

13:22

phone didn't understand how it happened

13:24

that investigation is needed to see

13:26

what occurred here The Trump administration

13:29

went on the offense, even though

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they were the ones who clearly

13:33

made a mistake, and began denying

13:36

that there was anything sensitive about

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this information. That there was nothing

13:40

sensitive about planning, debating, and then

13:42

planning when to start a bombing

13:45

campaign in Yemen, how to start

13:47

the bombing campaign in Yemen, how

13:49

to start the bombing campaign in

13:52

Yemen. I just

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want you to think for a

13:56

second about what would have happened

13:58

had Jeffrey Goldberg published the entire...

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chat with all of these details

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we're going to show you where

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in the chat operational details prior

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to the U.S. going and bombing

14:08

Yemen. Do you really believe that

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a single person in the Trump

14:12

administration would have said, oh, that's

14:14

no big deal that Jeffrey Goldberg

14:16

published these detailed war plans about

14:18

when we were going to send

14:20

our service members in harm's way,

14:22

what aircraft they would use, what

14:24

time they would start bombing? They

14:27

would probably charge Jeffrey Goldberg under

14:30

the Espionage Act and arrest him

14:32

immediately at the very least they

14:34

would have described this as a

14:36

Incredibly reckless and disloyal and unpatriotic

14:39

treasonous thing to do by a

14:41

reporter because of course this information

14:43

is sensitive It was only once

14:45

they realized that Jeffrey Goldberg had

14:48

it because they gave him access

14:50

to it Did they start trying

14:52

to insult your intelligence by trying

14:54

to tell you there's nothing? and

14:57

all sensitive or classified about any

14:59

of this information. Here's Pete Heggsath

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speaking on Fox News about all

15:03

this. Hold work day here as

15:06

well and looking forward to it.

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One question. Can you share how

15:10

your information about war plans against

15:12

the Houthis and Yemen was shared

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with a journalist and the Atlantic?

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And were those details classified? So

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you're talking about a deceitful and

15:21

highly discredited... so-called journalists who's made

15:23

a profession of peddling hopes time

15:26

and time again to include the,

15:28

I don't know, the hopes is

15:30

of Russia, Russia, Russia, or the

15:32

fine people on both sides hopes,

15:35

or it's suckers and losers hopes.

15:37

So this is the guy that

15:39

pedals in garbage. This is what

15:41

he does. I would love to

15:44

comment on the Huthi campaign. because

15:46

of the skill and courage of

15:48

our troops. I've monitored it very

15:50

closely from the beginning. And you

15:53

see, we've been managing four years

15:55

of deferred maintenance under the Trump

15:57

administration. Our troops are sealers. getting

15:59

shot at as targets. Our ships

16:02

couldn't sail through. And when they

16:04

did shoot back, it was purely

16:06

defensively or at Shacks in Yemen.

16:08

President Trump said, no more. We

16:11

will reestablish deterrence. We will open

16:13

freedom of navigation and we will

16:15

ultimately decimate. The Huthis, which is

16:17

exactly what we're doing as we

16:20

speak from the beginning, overwhelmingly. Why

16:22

do those details shared on signal

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and how did you learn that

16:26

a journalist was privy to the

16:28

targets, the types of weapons used?

16:31

I've heard I've heard I've heard

16:33

I was characterized. Nobody was texting

16:35

war plans. And that's all I

16:37

have to say about that. Thank

16:40

you. That's it. N.C. said it

16:42

was authentic. Nobody was texting more

16:44

plans. He said. And

16:46

this has been the line from the

16:49

Trump administration. No, there was nothing in

16:51

there that's sensitive, no big deal that

16:53

we shared it with the journalists. And

16:56

in fact, I agree with everything Pete

16:58

Hex has said about Jeffrey Goldberg. I

17:00

think he's one of the most fraudulent,

17:02

if not the worst, most fraudulent operatives

17:05

in media. In addition to all the

17:07

sins, Pete Hexeth mentioned, as we've shown

17:09

you before, it was Jeffrey Goldberg single-handedly

17:11

who invented the lie. and Al-Qaeda in

17:14

order to convince Americans of what they

17:16

needed to be convinced of to support

17:18

the war in Iraq, which was that

17:20

Saddam Hussein was somehow involved in the

17:23

planning of the 9-11 attack, and that's

17:25

why we had to go in and

17:27

take him out. Without that lie, that

17:29

Jeffrey Goldberg spread all over the New

17:32

Yorker and NPR and all the shows

17:34

that he was asked to come on.

17:36

He was showered with journalism awards. Without

17:38

that lie, it would have much more

17:41

difficult to convince Americans to support the

17:43

war in Iraq. affected Jeffrey Goldberg standing

17:45

in corporate media because as I've said

17:48

before, it's not just tolerated, it's required

17:50

if you want to advance in corporate

17:52

media that you lie on behalf of

17:54

the US security state. Nobody does that

17:57

as easily or as casually as Jeffrey

17:59

Goldberg. But given that I agree with

18:01

everything Pete... said about him, that provokes

18:03

the question, why is it that Jeffrey

18:06

Goldberg, that journalist, that Pete Hex says

18:08

is a fraudster and a hoaxer and

18:10

spreads lies? Why was he

18:12

included in this very small

18:15

16, 17 people top national

18:17

and national security officials? Why

18:19

was he included in this

18:21

group? And therefore made available,

18:24

made aware of the war

18:26

planning that took place. It's

18:28

true that not all of

18:30

the details of the bombing

18:33

operation in Yemen

18:35

were included, but a

18:38

lot of it was. Here

18:40

is the Atlantic

18:42

who actually was

18:45

almost forced to

18:47

reveal more. Tax because Jeffrey

18:49

Goldberg had said there were details about

18:52

the operation in here the Trump administration

18:54

The amently denied it as you just

18:56

heard Pete Hexeth do as others have done

18:58

And because the Trump administration said there

19:00

was nothing classified in there Jeffrey

19:03

Goldberg had no excuse to withhold it

19:05

He's the government itself the

19:07

Trump administration is saying this isn't classified

19:09

So once you call the reporter a liar

19:11

and claim that what he's claiming is in

19:13

there really isn't and that there's nothing

19:16

classified about it, you have no

19:18

excuse not to publish it. You're

19:20

basically duty-bound to do so, and

19:22

he did. Under this headline, here are

19:24

the attack plans that Trump's advisors shared

19:26

on signal. The administration has

19:29

downplayed the importance of the

19:31

text messages inadvertently sent to

19:33

the Atlantic's editor-in-chief, and then

19:35

here you can see the text itself. At

19:38

1144 a.m. Eastern Time hexath

19:40

posted in the chat in

19:43

all caps team update The

19:45

text began this way quote

19:47

time now Whether is favorable

19:50

just confirmed with CENTCOM.

19:52

We are a go for

19:54

mission launch CENTCOM or central

19:57

command is in the

19:59

military Batten Command for

20:01

the Middle East. The hexath

20:04

text continues. Set F-18's

20:06

launch first strike package

20:09

at 1215. 1345, trigger-based

20:11

F-18's first strike window

20:14

starts. The target terrorist

20:17

is, and they mention his

20:19

name, at his known location,

20:21

so should be on time,

20:23

also strike drones launch, MQ9.

20:27

And then the next set

20:29

of chats, Hagseth continued, 1410,

20:31

more F-18's launch, second strike

20:34

package, 1415 strike drones on

20:36

target. This is when the

20:38

first bombs will definitely

20:40

drop pending earlier

20:42

trigger-based targets. 1536,

20:44

F-18 second strike starts,

20:47

also first C-based homahawks

20:49

launched. More to follow

20:51

per the timeline and then

20:54

ironically in retrospect he added

20:56

we are currently clean

20:59

on opposite That is

21:01

operational security so

21:03

I'm sorry but nobody in

21:05

good faith nobody trying

21:07

to be minimally honest

21:10

nobody who is anything

21:12

other than a complete

21:14

partisan hack Would claim that

21:17

there was nothing sensitive

21:19

nothing Pete Hags have posted

21:21

to the signal group that

21:24

included Jeffrey Goldberg. You're

21:26

talking about detailed times

21:28

of an operation that has not

21:30

yet begun. The targets of

21:32

their operation, the aircraft they

21:35

intend to use, the sequence

21:37

of events that the attack

21:39

plan entails. The U.S. government

21:41

classifies everything pretty

21:43

much. I've talked before about how

21:45

I read through the Snowden archive

21:47

for two years plus. Hundreds

21:50

of thousands, if not more,

21:52

top secret and classified documents,

21:54

they classify everything, including the

21:56

most banal and ridiculous and

21:58

routine documents. Here's how you

22:00

request. justification, here's how you

22:02

get a parking credential, top

22:05

secret, or classified. The idea,

22:07

the very idea that detailed

22:09

war plans to secretly bomb

22:11

a country is not information

22:14

that ought to be closely held,

22:16

that it's fine to share it with

22:18

whomever, is just an insult

22:21

to your intelligence and it

22:23

is a... byproduct the fact that

22:25

Mike Waltz decided he won't tell

22:27

the truth and couldn't tell the

22:30

truth for reasons we'll get into

22:32

so the administration lined up behind

22:34

him to defend him and in doing

22:36

so had to issue some claims that

22:38

don't even pass a laugh test. Now

22:40

I'm not pretending and I won't

22:42

pretend that I'm sitting here worried

22:45

about whether the government effectively

22:47

or efficiently protects

22:49

its secrets. That is not my job.

22:52

I'm a journalist. If anything, my job

22:54

is to unearth those secrets,

22:56

not help the government better hide

22:58

them. I'm not, this is not,

23:00

that's why I say, I wouldn't

23:02

even be talking about this, if

23:05

not for the fact that it's

23:07

ongoing because the truth just wasn't

23:09

admitted instead we're getting an avalanche

23:11

of preposterous claims. And as I'll

23:13

show you, not just from the

23:16

government, for Jeffrey Goldberg

23:18

as well. And she essentially

23:20

followed up with the same sort

23:23

of denials that Pete Hexap

23:25

that's clearly part of the

23:27

strategy. She says, quote, Jeffrey

23:30

Goldberg is well known for

23:32

his sensationalist spin. Here are

23:34

the facts about his latest story,

23:36

quote, no war plans were discussed.

23:39

Come on. What I just showed

23:41

you, are those war plans attack plans

23:43

by any stretch of the... imagination,

23:46

any way to interpret those phrases not

23:48

to include that information I just cited.

23:50

And they're trying to claim that Jeffrey

23:53

Goldberg Monday said there were war plans

23:55

and then the Atlantic were treated to

23:57

attack plans. There's no difference between those.

24:00

It's just not true that, quote, no

24:02

war planes were discussed in the signal

24:04

chat. Number two, no classified material was

24:06

sent to this thread. How is this

24:08

information not classified? Number three, the White

24:10

House Council's office has provided guidance

24:13

on a number of different platforms

24:15

for President Trump's top officials to

24:17

communicate as safely and efficiently as

24:19

possible. As the National Security Council

24:22

stated, the White House is looking

24:24

into how Goldberg's number was inadvertently

24:26

added to the thread. Thanks to

24:29

the strong and decisive leadership of

24:31

President Trump and everyone in this

24:33

group, the huthi strikes were successful

24:35

and effective, terrorists were killed, and

24:37

that's what matters most to

24:39

President Trump. Trump administration officials

24:41

for the last two months have

24:43

been issuing very flamboyant aggressive statements

24:45

about the evils of leaking classified

24:48

information. Saying they have zero tolerance

24:50

for it, they'll punish anybody who...

24:52

is responsible for it and

24:54

now suddenly because of Mike Waltz's

24:56

careless mistake at best, they shared

24:58

secret war plans, secret attack and bombing

25:01

plans with one of the most

25:03

hostile anti- trump media operatives on

25:05

the planet. And now they resort

25:07

to, oh, we don't care that much about, we

25:09

can classify information, we just care that

25:12

the operation was a success. It was

25:14

a success because Jeffrey Goldberg opted not

25:16

to publish what he had learned prior

25:18

to the bombing campaign. But they had

25:21

no way of guaranteeing that when

25:23

they let him into that

25:25

group. Tolsey Gabber, the Director

25:27

of National Intelligence, and

25:29

the C.I. Director John

25:31

Radcliffe were testifying before

25:34

Congress yesterday, and both

25:36

of them took similar positions.

25:38

So I'm curious, did this

25:40

conversation at some point include

25:43

information on weapons packages, targets,

25:45

or timing? Not that I'm

25:48

aware of. Director

25:51

Gabbard, same question,

25:53

timing. And on

25:56

weapons packages, targets,

25:58

or timing. that I'm

26:00

aware of. Okay, did you hear

26:02

that? I mean, whatever you think

26:05

of the M& bombing campaign, however

26:07

much you up, President Trump, here's

26:09

the CIA director testifying before the

26:11

Senate. And it's not even an

26:14

effective lie, because of course these

26:16

chats were going to come out.

26:18

He was asked, was there anything

26:20

about timing or weapons packages transmitted

26:23

in this chat? Obviously, John Radcliffe,

26:25

the CI director read the chat.

26:27

It's right on his phone before

26:29

going to testify. He knew what

26:32

was in there, and yet he

26:34

still said not to my knowledge

26:36

or no. I just read you

26:38

exactly that, the weapons packages that

26:41

were going to be used in

26:43

the timing of the attacks in

26:45

detail. What is the justification for

26:47

lying about that? Why would you

26:50

even do that? That's what I

26:52

mean. This began as a very

26:54

trivial matter, and it's become something

26:56

more significant because of the refusal

26:59

to tell the truth and just

27:01

dig in in defense of Mike

27:03

walls. Here's the rest of this

27:05

interrogation. Director Gabbard, same question. Same

27:08

answer and defer to the Department

27:10

of Defense on that question. Well

27:12

those are two different answers but

27:14

you're saying that did not that

27:16

was not part of the conversation.

27:19

My knowledge. Precise operational issues were

27:21

not part of this conversation. Correct.

27:23

I mean maybe there is some

27:25

way to kind of use some

27:28

kind of a semantic game to try

27:31

and Justify Those answers, but they are

27:33

misleading at best They should have just

27:35

said yes as we were talking about

27:37

the operation We did talk about timing

27:39

it was a mistake to include a

27:42

journalist and period end of story. It

27:44

was a mistake. It was a mistake.

27:46

It was careless. We have to take

27:48

steps to make sure it wouldn't happen

27:51

not going to happen again. That's what

27:53

have ended the whole thing Mike

27:56

Waltz went on Laura Ingram last

27:58

night. I just want to give

28:01

you this sense for how preposterous

28:03

this has now become, how insulting

28:05

so many of these explanations are.

28:08

Laura Ingram, to her credit, wanted

28:10

to know how it is that

28:12

Jeffrey Goldberg's phone number ended up

28:15

saved in Mike Walter's phone and

28:17

why that happened. Now I don't

28:19

know how many of you have

28:22

used signal before, but. When you

28:24

open the signal app, the only

28:26

people with whom you can start

28:28

communicating are people who are saved

28:31

in your phone. You have to

28:33

have somebody saved in your phone

28:35

in order to send them a

28:38

message. You can't just type a

28:40

random number in. And then if

28:42

you create a new signal group

28:45

that permits you to speak with

28:47

multiple signal users at once, you

28:49

have to add, people to your

28:52

group and the only options that

28:54

you have are people whose contacts

28:56

are saved in your phone. If

28:58

you want to add somebody whose

29:01

contact is not saved in your

29:03

phone, you have to first save

29:05

their contact in your phone. That's

29:08

the only way you can add

29:10

them to a signal group. I

29:12

understand why Mike Walsh doesn't want

29:15

to admit that he had Jeffrey

29:17

Goldberg's number saved in his phone.

29:19

Because Jeffrey Goldberg is one of

29:22

the most dishonest... Ian, one of

29:24

the most vehemently anti- trump, media

29:26

people in all of Washington and

29:28

Trump, Mike Walter's boss, harbors a

29:31

severe hatred for Jeffrey Goldberg. As

29:33

you saw with Pete Exet, Trump

29:35

has said some more things. They

29:38

hate Jeffrey Goldberg. And if they

29:40

know that Mike Walter's chatting with

29:42

Jeffrey Goldberg, or has his contact

29:45

information saved in his phone, if

29:47

you weren't actually chatting with him.

29:50

That would be something that would trigger

29:53

Donald Trump's rage like you have Jeffrey

29:55

Goldberg you talked to Jeffrey Goldberg And

29:57

so instead of just admitting that this

29:59

is what happened was too scared to

30:01

admit that he had Jeffrey Goldberg's phone

30:04

number saved in his phone. To war

30:06

Ingram's credit, and I'm not surprised at

30:08

all that she did it, she's done

30:10

it many times before, she quite persistently

30:12

and adversarially questioned Mike Walsh on this

30:14

very question, I want you to listen

30:17

to the utter babbling, the preposterous defense.

30:19

The attempts to justify how this could

30:21

have happened that came out of Mike

30:23

Walter's mouth. Remember, this is the national

30:25

security advisor. The person closest to the

30:27

president on matters of national security. Somebody

30:30

responsible for possessing and safeguarding the most

30:32

sensitive secrets that our government possesses. Here's

30:34

his attempt to explain away how we

30:36

had Jeffrey Goldberg's number in his phone.

30:38

And I know him in the sense

30:41

that he hates the president, but I

30:43

don't text him, he wasn't on my

30:45

phone, and we're going to figure out

30:47

how this happened. So you don't know

30:49

what Stafford is responsible for this right

30:51

now? Well look a staffer wasn't responsible

30:54

and look I take full responsibility I

30:56

built the I built the group to

30:58

admit my job is to make sure

31:00

everything's coordinated I mean I don't mean

31:02

to be pedantic here but how did

31:04

the number have you ever had to

31:07

have you ever had somebody's contact that

31:09

shows their name and then you have

31:11

and then you have somebody else's number.

31:13

on someone else's contact. So of course

31:15

I didn't see this loser in the

31:18

group. It looked like someone else. Now

31:20

whether he did it deliberately or it

31:22

happened in some other technical mean is

31:24

something we're trying to figure out. So

31:26

your your staff for did not put

31:28

his contact information. No, no, no, no,

31:31

no. That's what we're trying to figure.

31:33

Okay. But that's a pretty big. That

31:35

is what we've got the best technical

31:37

minds, right? That's disturbing. And that's where,

31:39

I mean, I'm sure everybody out there

31:41

has had a contact where it was

31:44

said one person and then a different

31:46

phone number. But you've never talked to

31:48

him before, so how's the number on

31:50

your phone? I mean, I'm not an

31:52

expert on any of this, but it's

31:55

just curious. How's the number on your

31:57

phone? Well, if you have somebody else's...

31:59

and then it and then somehow it's

32:01

stuck in you that it gets sucked

32:03

in was there someone else supposed to

32:05

be on the chat that wasn't on

32:08

the chat that you thought so the

32:10

person that I thought was on there

32:12

was never on there it was this

32:14

was that's what person's well I'm not

32:16

look I take I take responsibility I

32:18

built the I built the group okay

32:21

so that's that's the part that we

32:23

have to figure out Oh,

32:25

we have to convene all of

32:27

the greatest technological minds and the

32:29

scientists and the computer experts and

32:32

security experts from all around the

32:34

world to investigate how it possibly

32:36

could be the case that Jeffrey

32:38

Goldberg's contact information and phone number

32:40

was stored in Mike Walt's phone

32:43

sufficient to allow Mike Waltz to

32:45

put him into the signal group.

32:47

And when Laura Ingram said to

32:49

him... What do you mean? How

32:51

did the number get saved in

32:54

your phone if you never talked

32:56

to him? How did it get

32:58

saved there? He's like, oh, well,

33:00

what happens is I'm sure you

33:02

had this experience. It's like, sometimes

33:05

this contact you have saved has

33:07

a totally different number of a

33:09

different, has that ever happened to

33:11

you? But then she still said,

33:13

like, okay, even that, given that's

33:16

the case, Jeffrey Goldberg's phone number

33:18

in contact information ended up in

33:20

your phone. And

33:22

it was identified as Jeffrey Goldberg, the graphic

33:24

and the signal chat said JG, which is

33:27

Jeffrey Goldberg's initials. And he said, oh yeah,

33:29

yeah, what happens is, like, when this happens,

33:31

the number gets sucked in. It gets sucked

33:34

in. It's totally what happens, like, the iPhone,

33:36

like, oh yeah, so many times. You know

33:38

there are these people who I don't want

33:40

to talk to, who I don't, I'm not

33:43

supposed to talk to, but my iPhone just

33:45

sucks in their contact information and their name

33:47

and I'm like, oh my god, how did

33:49

they get in my contacts? How did that

33:52

happen? How do I have their phone number

33:54

and their name and my, oh, oh, yeah,

33:56

the phone sucked it in, like sucked it

33:59

in from where? It's

34:01

laughable. It's ridiculous. It's insulting that

34:03

they would continue this preposterous charade.

34:05

From the beginning, Mike Waltz says

34:08

he doesn't know who Jeffrey Goldberg

34:10

is. He's never talked to Jeffrey

34:12

Goldberg. Oh, by the way, here

34:14

is another image that the Atlantica

34:17

released today. Jeffrey Goldberg in his

34:19

original story said... that he was

34:21

added to the chat group that

34:24

he got an invitation and added

34:26

to the chat group by Mike

34:28

Walton. Just again, for those of

34:31

you who don't use signal, if

34:33

somebody who has your contact information

34:35

stored in their phone, which again

34:38

is a prerequisite to adding you

34:40

to a signal group, tries to

34:42

put you into the signal group,

34:44

signal will send you a message

34:47

saying, this person, Mike Waltz, has

34:49

added you, wants to add you

34:51

to a signal group. Do you

34:54

accept or do you reject or

34:56

do you reject? And then once

34:58

you hit accept, you become part

35:01

of the And the group messages

35:03

signal messages to the entire group

35:05

that the person who added by

35:07

somebody else. So here you see

35:10

this is the who is the

35:12

PC small group and let's pull

35:14

up the Highlighter just to show

35:17

you here. So here's what it

35:19

says. Mike Waltz added you to

35:21

the group. This is Jeffrey Goldberg's

35:24

phone. There were only 19 members.

35:26

It was intended to be a

35:28

small group talking about the Houthi

35:30

operation. And there the first message

35:33

is Mike Waltz says team establishing

35:35

a principles group for coordination on

35:37

Houthi's, particularly over the next 72

35:40

hours. My deputy Alex Wong is

35:42

pulling together a tiger team at

35:44

deputies agency chief of staff level,

35:47

following up from the meeting. Now

35:49

I heard a lot of Trump

35:51

supporters trying to claim. to pin

35:54

the blame on his assistant or

35:56

his staffer Alex Wong. Like Waltz

35:58

is willing to say anything to

36:00

defend himself, you just saw that,

36:03

but he's not willing to falsely

36:05

blame Alex Wong. Why, anyway, if you're

36:07

the National Security Advisor, would you be

36:09

handing out your phone, your personal telephone,

36:12

to staffers and they have just access to

36:14

it? They can go in like delete contacts,

36:16

add contacts, access all your personal information

36:18

that's not something a national security advisor

36:21

should be doing. If that were the

36:23

explanation, that might even be worse, more

36:25

reckless. But that's not

36:28

what happened. It says right here, Mike

36:30

Waltz added Jeffrey Goldberg to the group.

36:32

And again, the only way you could

36:34

do that is if you have Jeffrey

36:37

Goldberg's number saved in your phone. Now,

36:39

Mike Waltz has been insisting from the

36:41

beginning, I don't know Jeffrey Goldberg,

36:44

I've never met him, I've never talked to

36:46

him. Here is a photo from October

36:48

2021 that people dug up.

36:50

It's from the French philosopher

36:52

and Warmonger Bernard Henriari Enri

36:54

Levy Levy. And on October

36:56

29th, 2021, he tweeted launch

36:59

of the Will to see,

37:01

thanks Ambassador 18, thanks for

37:04

being there. And then he

37:06

goes to the people who were in

37:08

this, you can see this small

37:10

group of people, about

37:12

seven people, Alanarzi,

37:15

Bayan Raman, Raman,

37:17

Jeffrey Goldberg, David

37:19

Tafari, Michael Waltz,

37:21

Sinom 56, the Tom

37:23

Kaplan, Emily. Hilton and you

37:25

see here, this is Mike Waltz and

37:28

Jeffrey Goldberg, they are standing right next

37:30

to each other. Now, I don't know,

37:32

maybe you stood next to somebody

37:34

on a stage before, and even though

37:36

you work in exactly the same area,

37:38

Jeffrey Goldberg is a

37:40

national security reporter, Mike Waltz,

37:43

member of Congress, works in

37:45

national security, who is very well known

37:48

in DC, has been around forever. There you

37:50

see the two of them in an up

37:52

close. Maybe actually just

37:54

didn't talk to him. You never

37:56

remember this. It's a total coincidence.

38:00

that the person whose contact and

38:02

number is saved in your phone

38:04

is somebody that you were about

38:06

three inches from in a small group

38:08

meeting on a stage. But the other

38:10

side, you know, I said before that a

38:12

lot of people are saying, wait a

38:14

minute, like why would Mike Waltz be

38:17

talking to somebody like Jeffrey Goldberg,

38:19

one of the most anti-

38:21

trump fraudsters in all of

38:23

Washington? But the other side of that is

38:26

important to realize who Jeffrey

38:28

Goldberg is. New York

38:30

Post, and I think we have this,

38:33

but we'll just, I'll take my word

38:35

for it now, published a

38:37

headline saying something like, Lefty

38:39

Journalist was added to the

38:42

tweet. There it is, you

38:44

see, at the top, Trump

38:46

team accidentally added Lefty Editor

38:48

to Secret Tax Group, to

38:50

Tax Group, planning the M&

38:52

raids. Operation overshare is

38:54

what the post called it.

38:57

The idea that Jeffrey Goldberg

38:59

is a lefty is so funny.

39:01

Jeffrey Goldberg is an American

39:03

who left college in order

39:05

to go join a foreign

39:07

military. You'll never guess which

39:09

country never take one guess. Yeah,

39:12

exactly the idea if you want to

39:14

join the IDF He worked for the

39:16

during the first intifata as a

39:18

prison guard and an Israeli

39:21

idea of prison that

39:23

detained Palestinians with no due

39:25

process It's notorious for being

39:27

abusive. He talked about abuses that he

39:30

saw and helped cover up. He wrote

39:32

a book about his experience after.

39:34

So he went and joined the IDF, and then

39:36

he became one of the loudest advocates

39:38

of the war in Iraq. Here's the

39:40

stories I referenced earlier, but he was

39:43

at the New Yorker in the run-up

39:45

to the Iraq war in 2002. He

39:47

talked about Saddam Hussein's genocidal war on

39:49

the Kurds end of his possible ties

39:51

to al-Qaeda. And then

39:54

here he is in October of 2020,

39:56

of 2002, just about five months before

39:58

the invasion of Iraq began. on C-SPAN

40:00

again claiming that Saddam

40:03

Hussein had an alliance

40:06

with al-Qaeda, obviously implying

40:08

to the American people that

40:11

he must be in bed with,

40:13

those who did 9-11,

40:16

if not himself, personally

40:18

participating in its planning.

40:20

The piece of news that's come

40:23

from this story that some

40:25

people have been talking about

40:27

is the following. When I

40:29

was in Kurdistan, I started

40:31

hearing a lot about a

40:33

Muslim fundamentalist terror group called

40:36

the Ansar al-Islam, which means

40:38

supporters of Islam, operate in

40:40

the corner of Kurdistan, al-Qaeda

40:42

influenced ideologically, theologically, run by

40:44

a group of Kurds and

40:47

Arabs who have cycled through

40:49

Osama's trainings. camps. It's been

40:51

assumed that this group has Al-Qaeda

40:53

influenced even Al-Qaeda directed. What I

40:56

found, and I can go into

40:58

it a little bit if you

41:00

want, how I found this out,

41:02

is that there are serious allegations

41:05

that the group is actually co-sponsored,

41:07

if you will, by Al-Qaeda and

41:09

by Saddam's. intelligence agency. I found

41:12

a number of other, I heard

41:14

a number of other credible allegations

41:16

that Saddam and Al-Qaeda have actually

41:18

been working together on any number

41:21

of projects. And if these

41:23

allegations are true, obviously, the

41:25

implications are quite serious. Yeah,

41:27

they are quite serious. That

41:30

would mean that Saddam Hussein

41:32

probably played a role in

41:34

9-11, but unfortunately, it was a

41:36

complete lie. And there was a time, for

41:38

those of you who don't remember, were too

41:40

old, were too young to have lived through

41:43

it, that they were constantly leaking

41:45

that Muhammad Atta, one of the lead

41:47

hijackers for the 9-11 attack, met

41:49

with Iraqi intelligence officials in

41:51

Prague, very similar to what Russia

41:54

Gate was. They just make up lies,

41:56

based on whatever the needs of the

41:58

moment are, remember they have. had

42:00

all kinds of claims from

42:02

the Steele dossier about close

42:04

Trump associates going in meeting

42:06

with the Russians and Prague.

42:09

Same kind of modus operandi,

42:11

same kind of lie. In

42:13

any reasonably healthy society, this

42:15

would have destroyed Jeffrey Goldberg's

42:17

career. That he lied the

42:19

country into a devastating war

42:21

that took the lives of

42:24

thousands of American soldiers and

42:26

hundreds of thousands if not

42:28

more Iraqis. That

42:30

even Tony Blair, an advocate of

42:33

this war, says is what gave

42:35

rise to ISIS because of the

42:37

instability in the vacuum that we

42:39

created. This was a major, major

42:41

destruction of American credibility, of American

42:43

lives, of American treasure. And I

42:46

just showed you Jeffrey Goldberg going

42:48

all over the place. Just tiny

42:50

sample of him making up the

42:52

crucial eye necessary to convince Americans.

42:54

Just saying it's hot and hot

42:57

weapons of mass destruction, that falsehood,

42:59

that wasn't enough. Americans wanted... to

43:01

support wars against the people who

43:03

did 9-11. This was a year

43:05

after on 11. That's what they

43:07

wanted. And the only way you

43:10

could sell the Iraq Wars if

43:12

you convince them that Saddam Hussein

43:14

was actually in bed with al-Qaeda,

43:16

Osama bin Laden, completely ignoring the

43:18

Sunni Shia split, the bathite nature

43:21

of the Saddam Hussein regime, just

43:23

ignoring all of that. And Jeffrey

43:25

Goldberg happily stepped forward and provided

43:27

that false link. was showered with

43:29

journalism award for this incredible investigation,

43:31

and it didn't impede his career

43:34

at art. It helped his career.

43:36

So it's not a surprise that

43:38

Jeffrey Goldberg himself, on the other

43:40

side of the story, is also

43:42

lying. He went on the bulwark,

43:45

the Never Trump, website, which is

43:47

where he belongs, and spoke to

43:49

lifelong GOP operative, turned Democratic cheerleader

43:51

Tim Miller. And Tim Miller was,

43:53

this was before the release. today

43:55

of more material. This was yesterday

43:58

when Jeffrey Goldberg claimed all sorts

44:00

of things about what was in

44:02

material. The Trump administration said he's

44:04

lying. So Tim Miller was saying,

44:06

pressuring him to say, you need

44:09

to release this and show that

44:11

it's actually in there. And at

44:13

the time, Jeffrey Goldberg was very

44:15

reluctant to do so and listened

44:17

to him explaining why he didn't

44:19

think he could or should. Secretary

44:23

of Defense and the White House

44:25

press secretary have said you're lying,

44:27

has said there are no war

44:29

plans there, have said there's no

44:32

classified information. So the obvious question

44:34

is shouldn't you now demonstrate it?

44:36

Shouldn't you publish the text? No,

44:39

because they're wrong. They're wrong. But

44:41

how can you prove that you're

44:43

wrong? Maybe, should you provide them

44:45

to the House and Senate special

44:48

committees on intelligence, maybe? I don't

44:50

know. Wow. Well, you want to

44:52

become my lawyer? I'm just, I'm

44:55

just, I'm throwing this out there,

44:57

Jeff. I don't, I don't know.

44:59

I mean, look, I feel like,

45:01

no, no, no, no. I mean,

45:04

I, obviously, let me just put

45:06

it this way. My colleagues and

45:08

I, and the advice that, and

45:11

the people who are giving us

45:13

advice on this, have some interesting

45:15

conversations to have about this. But

45:17

just because they're irresponsible with material,

45:20

doesn't mean that I'm going to

45:22

be irresponsible with this material. And

45:24

you know what? I could, whatever.

45:26

I mean, you've had long history

45:29

as I have with dealing with

45:31

them. And at moments like this,

45:33

when they're under pressure because they've

45:36

been caught with their hand in

45:38

the cookie jar or whatever, you

45:40

know, they will just literally say

45:42

anything to get out of the

45:45

moment, to get out of the

45:47

gym. And that's okay. I get

45:49

it. I get the defensive reaction.

45:52

And, but here's the thing. My

45:54

obligation, I feel is to. to

45:56

the idea that we take national

45:58

security information seriously and maybe there's

46:01

and maybe maybe in the coming

46:03

days I'll I'll be able to

46:05

let you know that okay I

46:08

have a I have a plan

46:10

to to have this material vetted

46:12

publicly but I'm not going to

46:14

say that now because there's a

46:17

lot of conversations that have to

46:19

happen about that. All of my

46:21

inclinations as you can tell including

46:24

withholding the name of the CIA

46:26

undercover officer all of my inclinations

46:28

are I have a pretty clear

46:30

standards. I have a pretty clear

46:33

standards. in my own behavior of

46:35

what I consider information that I

46:37

consider. Now you heard him claim

46:39

there in order to escalate the

46:42

seriousness of what happened that the

46:44

name of a CIA undercover operative

46:46

was included in the chat. That

46:49

is a complete lie. The only

46:51

name of anyone who worked at

46:53

the CIA besides John Radcliffe who

46:55

was mentioned in the chat all

46:58

the principles, the head of the

47:00

agencies, were designating who their representatives

47:02

and chiefs of staff were, was

47:05

the chief of staff of the

47:07

CIA, the person who works for

47:09

John Radcliffe and manages his team.

47:11

She's not an undercover agent. An

47:14

undercover agent is someone deployed in

47:16

a field and say like Lebanon

47:18

or Syria, pretending to be a

47:21

store clerk or a weapons dealer,

47:23

but in reality is someone who

47:25

works with the CIA and if

47:27

you identify them as a CIA

47:30

agent. you blow their cover and

47:32

that puts them in danger. That's

47:34

what a CIA undercover operative is.

47:37

It would be incredibly responsible for

47:39

John Radcliffe to have put the

47:41

name of a CIA undercover operative

47:43

in this chat. Even to do

47:46

that among 17 people is reckless.

47:48

That's the thing you guard the

47:50

most. And Jeffrey Goldberg to try

47:53

and justify why this is so

47:55

grave, he hates the Trump administration,

47:57

he said it there, and why

47:59

he cannot release any more information,

48:02

just fabricated. on the spot that

48:04

there was a CIA undercover operative

48:06

who was named in the chat.

48:08

Here from the Atlantic itself, they

48:11

admit that that's not true. Quote,

48:13

a CIA spokesperson asked us to

48:15

withhold the name of John Radcliffe's

48:18

chief of staff, which Radcliffe has

48:20

shared in the signal chain because

48:22

CIA intelligence officers are traditionally not

48:24

publicly identified. Radcliffe has testified yesterday

48:27

that the officers not undercover. and

48:29

said it was quote completely appropriate

48:31

to share their name in the

48:34

signal conversation we will continue to

48:36

with all the name of the

48:38

officer otherwise the messages are unredacted.

48:40

It was just totally false that

48:43

the that there was another cover

48:45

agent in that in that chat

48:47

even though Jeffrey Goldberg said it.

48:50

Now I want to go to

48:52

a part of these releases that

48:54

were about the war itself. We

48:56

had gone over some of these

48:59

excerpts on Monday, and when they

49:01

were talking about whether they should

49:03

bomb Yemen, J.D. Vance was the

49:06

only person in the chat who

49:08

actually raised objections to it. He

49:10

called it, quote, a mistake. And

49:12

he said, look, if this is

49:15

what your decision is, I won't

49:17

object publicly. But he noted that

49:19

there is very little American interest.

49:22

in the Suez Canal, maybe like

49:24

3% of the trade in the

49:27

Suez Canal is American, whereas 30%

49:29

to 40% he says is European.

49:31

If anything, this matters to Europe

49:33

and to Egypt, but not to

49:35

the United States. Obviously it benefits

49:38

Israel as well as Tom Cotton

49:40

said, because the Houthis have been

49:42

bombing Israel and threatening to seize

49:44

their ships. And so J.D. Vance

49:46

said we're supposed to be America

49:49

first foreign policy. Why are we

49:51

going to bombing campaigns and wars

49:53

again to... salvage the interest of

49:55

other people. But he wasn't the

49:57

only one who actually said that

50:00

the. Other person who talked about

50:02

some hesitation was the former congressional

50:04

candidate, the Green Berets, whose wife

50:06

was killed working for the CIA

50:08

in Syria with the battle with

50:10

ISIS. And that's Joe Kent, who

50:13

Tulsa Gabbard has now chosen as

50:15

her chief of staff. or her

50:17

deputy and he was the one

50:19

he was the one she designated

50:21

to represent her and he said

50:24

quote there is nothing time sensitive

50:26

driving the timeline will have the

50:28

exact same options in a month

50:30

jade advance and said look this

50:32

is a mistake but let's wait

50:35

a month there's no reason not

50:37

to and then it'll give us

50:39

more time to figure this out

50:41

and so Joe Kent is also

50:43

pushing that option like why do

50:46

we have to do this now

50:48

let's wait He said quote the

50:50

Israelis will likely take take strikes

50:52

and therefore ask us for more

50:54

to replenish whatever they use against

50:57

the Houthis But that's a minor

50:59

factor. I will send you the

51:01

Unclassified data we pulled on Bam

51:03

shipping So there was an added

51:05

voice of caution or at least

51:07

pushback and hesitation on this Yemen

51:10

bombing plan and that was Tulsi

51:12

Gabbard's chief of staff Joe Kent

51:14

now There was a

51:16

segment of these chats that

51:18

were about the bombing campaign

51:20

itself that happened not before

51:23

the bombing campaign, but as

51:25

the first strikes happened. And

51:27

it started with Mike Walt

51:29

saying, we just had that

51:31

on the screen, we go

51:33

back to that. We just,

51:35

he said, Let me just

51:37

pull this up. At 148

51:40

p.m. Mike Walt sent the

51:42

following text containing real-time intelligence

51:44

about conditions at an attack

51:46

site, apparently in SANA. He

51:48

said VP building collapse had

51:50

multiple positive ID. And it

51:52

was unclear what he was

51:54

referring to. He said, the

51:56

Atlantic article says, Mike Walsh

51:59

was referring here to Hegstaff,

52:01

General Michael Carilla, the commander

52:03

of Central Command in the

52:05

intelligence community or I see.

52:07

But Jady Vance didn't understand

52:09

the message from Waltz. It

52:11

was just written in a

52:13

very incoherent way. So Jady

52:16

Vance said, what? And then

52:18

Mike Walter responded this way.

52:20

Typing too fast, basically, sorry,

52:22

typing too fast. The first

52:24

target, their top missile guy,

52:26

we had positive idea of

52:28

him walking into his girlfriend's

52:30

building, walking into his girlfriend's

52:32

building, and now it's collapsed.

52:35

And then after that, JD

52:37

Vance responded a minute later,

52:39

excellent. And then 35 minutes

52:41

after that, Ratcliffe, the CIA

52:43

director wrote, a good start.

52:45

And then Waltz followed with

52:47

a series of emogies, an

52:49

American flag emoji, a fist

52:52

emoji, and a fire emoji.

52:54

So I just want to

52:56

highlight this, that this is

52:58

what the Emmon bombing campaign

53:00

entailed to start off. They

53:02

identified someone that they claimed

53:04

was a top missile person

53:06

for the hoofies. They didn't

53:08

kill him in his car.

53:11

They didn't kill him on

53:13

a battlefield. They waited for

53:15

him to enter a residential

53:17

building filled with civilians, including

53:19

his girlfriend. And the

53:21

way they killed him was by

53:23

collapsing the entire building. And that

53:25

first day there were many claims

53:28

of civilian deaths. And unsurprisingly, given

53:30

that these were the rules of

53:32

engagement. Is that something that you

53:34

think is a legitimate military strategy?

53:36

To find somebody that is, in

53:38

your view, a legitimate target? and

53:40

just blowing up whatever building they're

53:42

in regardless of how many civilians

53:45

you kill. If during the Iraq

53:47

war, the Iraqis had identified where

53:49

a military commander lived and he

53:51

lived in some 47 foot... 47

53:53

for High-rise apartment in Chicago, would

53:55

he have had the, would the

53:57

Iraqis have had the right to

54:00

just blow up the entire building

54:02

and said, well, there was one

54:04

guy in there who was a

54:06

legitimate target? Or what if the

54:08

Yemenis or the Palestinians pull up

54:10

a building now in which there

54:12

was located some kind of military

54:14

commander and they blow up a

54:17

building in Washington or they blow

54:19

up an apartment building in New

54:21

York? And their excuse was, well,

54:23

there was one guy in there

54:25

who was a military commander and

54:27

legit, but we would instantly call

54:29

that terrorism. We would say, oh,

54:32

that's an act of terrorism. You

54:34

blew up an apartment building and

54:36

you killed 37 American civilians along

54:38

with one member of the military.

54:40

But of course, when we do

54:42

it, it's not terrorism. Somehow it

54:44

becomes legitimate. But if that's what

54:46

this bombing campaign is, collapsing residential

54:49

buildings. in order to take out

54:51

some mid-level missile person or they're

54:53

taught missile person even, who will

54:55

just get replaced. Very easily, it's

54:57

happened throughout the entire world on

54:59

terror. We were told so many

55:01

times, hey, we got the number

55:04

three person of al-Qaeda. And everyone

55:06

cheered. And then like a year

55:08

later, they're like, hey, we got

55:10

the number three person of al-Qaeda.

55:12

And then like a year later,

55:14

they're like, hey, we got the

55:16

number three person of al-Qaeda. Last

55:19

year, Biden's argument was they're bombing

55:21

Israel and they're attacking our ships,

55:23

and Trump said bombing Yemen is

55:25

totally unnecessary. You should pick up

55:27

the phone and use diplomacy to

55:29

resolve it. And now not only

55:31

is Trump doing exactly what Joe

55:33

Biden did, bombing Yemen, and what

55:36

Barack Obama did as well, when

55:38

he worked with the Saudis for

55:40

a full-on war with Turkey, just

55:42

endless war in the Middle East,

55:44

but he's loosened the rules of

55:46

engagement apparently, so that the military

55:48

is free to blow up entire...

55:51

residential apartment buildings as long as

55:53

one person that they want to

55:55

kill is in there not caring

55:57

in the slightest about how many

55:59

civilians or children. or whoever happens

56:01

to be, unfortunately, had the misfortune

56:03

of being in that apartment building

56:05

when it's quote unquote collapse, how

56:08

many people are killed with it.

56:10

So there's a lot going on

56:12

in this story, most of it

56:14

quite ugly and unnecessary, and eroding

56:16

of credibility for absolutely no reason.

56:18

But the most significant part by

56:20

far is the fact that we

56:23

now have another war in the

56:25

Middle East that is going to

56:27

be ongoing, that's not going to

56:29

stop. And just to

56:31

remind you, the Huthis were actually

56:33

attacking U.S. ships when Biden was

56:35

bombing them and when Trump said

56:38

the bombing campaign was unnecessary. Once

56:40

there was a ceasefire in Gaza

56:42

that Trump and his envoy was

56:44

able to, were able to facilitate,

56:46

the Huthis stopped attacking ships and

56:49

they said, now that there's a

56:51

ceasefire, we don't need to attack

56:53

ships anymore. And they only restarted

56:55

attacking ships once in their view.

56:57

everyone in the international community agrees

56:59

that this happened. Once the Israeli

57:02

started blocking the humanitarian aid that

57:04

the ceasefire called for, food, medicine,

57:06

water into Gaza, and they said,

57:08

because Israel is abiding by the

57:10

ceasefire agreement, we're only going to

57:12

attack Israel flagged or Israel-owned ships.

57:15

So they're not even attacking American

57:17

ships anymore, just Israel's. And that

57:19

is what prompted Trump, after saying

57:21

last year that he opposed it,

57:23

that he opposed it. to restart

57:25

Biden's war and to escalate it

57:28

and clearly killing a ton of

57:30

civilians as usual. And then at

57:32

some point we'll be attacked and

57:34

everybody will walk around saying, oh

57:36

my God, what did we do?

57:39

Why did they hate us? And

57:41

I think that has to be

57:43

the focus once this question of

57:45

how Jeffrey Goldberg got into the

57:47

chat is resolved and we can

57:49

move on from that. This is

57:52

what our focus ought to be.

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alive. One of the most bizarre

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things to watch over the last

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several years ever since the Russian

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invasion in February of 2022 and

59:14

Ukraine is watching Europeans and European

59:17

officials and European officials and Brussels

59:19

bureaucrats and bureaucrats start acting like

59:21

they're refighting World War II or

59:24

fighting World War III against the

59:26

Russia. They all have to walk

59:28

around. We're going to defeat Russia.

59:31

You have German leaders talking about

59:33

sending tanks for the third time

59:36

in the last hundred years. Eastward

59:38

toward Russia, which they ultimately did.

59:40

You have German leaders in an

59:43

outdoor rally saying, we must defeat

59:45

Russia. We must take them down.

59:49

And you have all these tiny

59:51

little countries and their tiny little

59:53

prime ministers, talking about like with

59:56

a million people in the entire

59:58

country, acting like their Winston-Trus. And

1:00:00

ever since the pronouncements by Donald

1:00:02

Trump about his intentions to say,

1:00:05

we're not going to keep paying

1:00:07

for your defense, you're off this

1:00:09

very ample welfare state to your

1:00:12

people and they love it, that's

1:00:14

understandable. They get a lot of

1:00:16

benefits, but why are our workers

1:00:18

paying for your defense? You're not

1:00:21

impoverished. You're perfectly capable of doing

1:00:23

it yourself ever since they've gone

1:00:25

completely insane Acting like okay. Now

1:00:28

we're going to become the military

1:00:30

superpower. We were always meant to

1:00:32

be without the United States The

1:00:34

problem is Europe is a joke

1:00:37

militarily. They're an absolute joke France

1:00:39

in the UK have a small

1:00:41

nuclear arsenal So that makes them

1:00:44

serious on that level, but in

1:00:46

terms of conventional military fighting They're

1:00:48

laughable in fact in that signal

1:00:50

chat group that we just went

1:00:53

over. Mike Waltz, because JD Vance

1:00:55

was saying, why are we fighting

1:00:57

this fight for Europe again? Aren't

1:01:00

we sending the signal that we're

1:01:02

not going to fight their fights,

1:01:04

we're not going to pay for

1:01:06

their fights? Forty percent, they're the

1:01:09

ones who need the Suez Canal,

1:01:11

not Americans, we barely use it.

1:01:13

And Mike Waltz, who was eager

1:01:15

to do the bombing, as was

1:01:18

PXF. said this, quote, whether we

1:01:20

pull the plug or not today,

1:01:22

European navies do not have the

1:01:25

capability to defend against the types

1:01:27

of sophisticated anti-ship cruise missiles and

1:01:29

drones who these are now using.

1:01:31

So whether it's now or several

1:01:34

weeks from now, it will have

1:01:36

to be the United States that

1:01:38

reopens these shipping lanes. Per the

1:01:41

President's request, we are working with

1:01:43

the OD in state to determine

1:01:45

how to compile the costs associated

1:01:47

and levy them on the European.

1:01:50

So according to... Mike Waltz, now's

1:01:52

a screen advisor, Europe doesn't even

1:01:54

have the military capability to fight

1:01:57

the Houthis. Their Navy is insufficient.

1:01:59

The Houthis have more... sophisticated weaponry

1:02:01

and more fighting capability than

1:02:03

the Europeans, who nonetheless

1:02:05

have been walking around beating their

1:02:07

chest, we're Europe, we're going to build

1:02:09

our own military, we're going to fight

1:02:12

Russia, we're going to defeat them, consign

1:02:14

them to the ash heap of history,

1:02:16

we don't need the United States. All

1:02:18

of that rhetoric is about three weeks

1:02:20

old, and already Europe is

1:02:22

confronting the reality that they're

1:02:25

Europe, and that none of that tough

1:02:27

talk is possible. Even the

1:02:29

New York Times is mocking them now.

1:02:31

Here's the New York Times from today.

1:02:33

Europe talks top on military spending,

1:02:35

but unity is fracturing. Quote,

1:02:37

European leaders are struggling to

1:02:39

find the money and the political will

1:02:42

to replace the bulk of the US

1:02:44

contribution to Ukraine and to their own

1:02:46

defense. The article begins, quote, the

1:02:48

Dutch and others are not fans

1:02:50

of raising collective debt for defense,

1:02:52

keeping hungry on board is even

1:02:54

more difficult. And when the President

1:02:57

of the European Commission, Ursula

1:02:59

von der Leyen, announced a plan

1:03:01

for billions more for the military,

1:03:04

called Rearm Europe, two of

1:03:06

the bloc's largest countries, Italy and

1:03:08

Spain, thought that that was all

1:03:10

a bit aggressive. So now the

1:03:12

plan has been rebranded as Readiness

1:03:15

2030. Cajacales, the former

1:03:17

Prime Minister of Estonia, which

1:03:19

has a population of about

1:03:21

1.1 million people, fewer the number

1:03:23

of people who live in Paris.

1:03:26

She resigned in disgrace from the Prime Minister's

1:03:28

ship because her husband got caught doing millions

1:03:30

of dollars in business with Russia at a

1:03:33

time She was saying Russia is the root

1:03:35

of all evil and we have to sanction

1:03:37

them But she had a very safe

1:03:39

landing. She's now the chief foreign and

1:03:42

security official for the European Union She

1:03:44

has been a forceful advocate I would

1:03:46

call deranged for supporting Ukraine as a

1:03:48

first line of European defense against an

1:03:50

aggressive militarized Russia But it has been

1:03:52

a rocky start from his callus Her

1:03:55

effort to get the EU to provide up

1:03:57

to 40 billion dollar 40 billion euros more

1:03:59

than 40 $23 billion to Ukraine through

1:04:01

a small fixed percentage levy on

1:04:04

each country's national income has gone

1:04:06

nowhere. Her backup proposal, just for

1:04:08

an added $5 billion is the

1:04:11

first step for providing Ukraine two

1:04:13

million artillery shells this year, was

1:04:16

also rejected by Italy, Slovakia, and

1:04:18

even France, any official said. Speaking

1:04:20

anonymously in accordance with diplomatic practice,

1:04:23

the countries insisted that contributions to

1:04:25

Ukraine remain voluntary, bilateral, and not

1:04:27

requested by Brussels. And her recent

1:04:30

response to Mr. Trump's effort to

1:04:32

push Ukraine into a ceasefire without

1:04:35

security assurances rub many the wrong

1:04:37

way, both in Europe and Washington

1:04:39

as dangerously premature. Quote, the free

1:04:42

world needs a new leader. She

1:04:44

wrote on X, it's up to

1:04:46

us, Europeans to take on this

1:04:49

challenge. But in

1:04:51

fact, the Europeans are working hard

1:04:53

to respond to Mr. Trump in

1:04:56

a convincing fashion. Ms. von der

1:04:58

Leyen sold to her armament of

1:05:00

readiness plan with a headline figure

1:05:03

of 800 billion euros. But only

1:05:05

150 billion euros of that is

1:05:07

real money available as long-term loans

1:05:10

for countries that wish to use

1:05:12

it for the military. The rest

1:05:14

simply represents a notional figure. A

1:05:17

four-year permission from the block for

1:05:19

countries to borrow even more for

1:05:22

military purposes out of their own

1:05:24

national budgets. Most of the European

1:05:26

countries are struggling greatly with their

1:05:29

economy. Their populations hate them. There's

1:05:31

massive anti-establishment sentiment throughout all of

1:05:33

Western Europe and even in Central

1:05:36

Europe. It's the reason why people

1:05:38

in the UK voted to leave

1:05:40

Brexit. to leave the EU with

1:05:43

Brexit because they didn't want to

1:05:45

be governed by these kinds of

1:05:47

people in Brussels. It's the reason

1:05:50

why right-wing populist parties that never,

1:05:52

that countries never thought would succeed

1:05:55

in France, in the Netherlands, in

1:05:57

Italy, and many more places. are

1:05:59

gaining in popularity because they're channeling

1:06:02

this anti-establishment sentiment and none of

1:06:04

these Europeans want to give up

1:06:06

the massive state benefits that they

1:06:09

get which is a crucial part

1:06:11

of being European a month occasion

1:06:13

in tons of time off or

1:06:16

paternity maternity leave or retiring early

1:06:18

working for days not working a

1:06:20

40-hour work week these are all

1:06:23

things essential to the Europeans they're

1:06:25

going to give that up to

1:06:28

build a massive military, go into

1:06:30

massive debt for it, especially when

1:06:32

a lot of these countries like

1:06:35

France are already in enormous amounts

1:06:37

of debt. And yet here is

1:06:39

Ursula von der Leyen, a war

1:06:42

longer and a German who nobody

1:06:44

elected to become the president of

1:06:46

the EU other than the members

1:06:49

of the EU Parliament. Here she

1:06:51

is on March 4th talking so

1:06:53

tough about her rearmament plan. We're

1:06:56

living in the most momentous and

1:06:58

dangerous of times. I do not

1:07:01

need to describe the grave nature

1:07:03

of the threats that we face

1:07:05

or the devastating consequences that we

1:07:08

will have to endure if those

1:07:10

threats would come to pass because

1:07:12

the question is no longer whether

1:07:15

Europe's security is threatened in a

1:07:17

very real way or whether Europe

1:07:19

should shoulder more. of its responsibility

1:07:22

for its own security? In truth,

1:07:24

we have long known the answers

1:07:27

to those questions. The real question

1:07:29

in front of us is whether

1:07:31

Europe is prepared to act as

1:07:34

decisively as the situation dictates. We

1:07:36

are in an era of rearmament.

1:07:38

And Europe is ready to massively

1:07:41

boost its defense spending. both to

1:07:43

respond to the short-term urgency to

1:07:45

act and to support Ukraine. And

1:07:48

also to address the long-term need

1:07:50

to take on more responsibility for

1:07:52

our own European security. One of

1:07:55

the ironies, by the way, she

1:07:57

said Europe is ready to rearm

1:08:00

and build our own defense, evidently

1:08:02

they're not. One of the ironies

1:08:04

of all of this is that

1:08:07

the most strident warmongers in Europe

1:08:09

are women politicians who are on

1:08:11

the center left, the center... of

1:08:14

European politics. And the reason I

1:08:16

say it's ironic is because the

1:08:18

most belligerent, aggressive, and war-mongering party

1:08:21

in all of Europe, when it

1:08:23

comes to Ukraine and Russia, when

1:08:25

it comes to Israel, when it

1:08:28

comes to a variety of other

1:08:30

potential wars, is the German Green

1:08:33

Party, whose figurehead is Anelina Babarik,

1:08:35

who is the foreign minister of

1:08:37

Germany. And the German Greens ran...

1:08:40

on a platform that elevated her

1:08:42

and the Greens to the Parliament,

1:08:44

they ran on a platform what

1:08:47

they called a feminist foreign policy.

1:08:49

They said, our party is dominated

1:08:51

by women, we're going to have

1:08:54

female officials in the most important

1:08:56

offices, and because women are more

1:08:58

inclined to resolve disputes through diplomacy

1:09:01

and conciliation and not with war

1:09:03

and aggression, a feminist foreign policy

1:09:06

is one that's less antagonistic, less

1:09:08

belligerent. That's the campaign they ran

1:09:10

on. Now, I personally find this

1:09:13

kind of essentializing men are more

1:09:15

aggressive and inclined to work, women

1:09:17

are more, whatever, conciliatory, to be

1:09:20

extremely reductive. And obviously you can

1:09:22

use that same reasoning, not to

1:09:24

elevate women, but to demean them.

1:09:27

A woman are more emotional, men

1:09:29

are more rational, women don't belong

1:09:31

in position to the power, etc.

1:09:34

That's the same exact kind of

1:09:36

thinking. But for whatever reason, the

1:09:39

most... Unhinged voices who practically think

1:09:41

they're at war with Russia and

1:09:43

are ready to build up this

1:09:46

military are women politicians in Europe

1:09:48

on the center and central And

1:09:50

one of them, Kajakales, who I

1:09:53

just mentioned, the former Prime Minister

1:09:55

of the crucial state of Estonia,

1:09:57

all 1 million people who live

1:10:00

there, has become so deranged that

1:10:02

she's even starting to genuinely disturb

1:10:04

a lot of European officials, including

1:10:07

many who are for the war

1:10:09

in Ukraine, but are very alarmed

1:10:12

by the way she's speaking. Here's

1:10:14

political EU today. Kaja Kalais is,

1:10:16

quote, acting like a prime minister,

1:10:19

critics of EU's top diplomats say.

1:10:21

Kaja Kalais's troubles started on her

1:10:23

first day. The EU's top diplomat

1:10:26

was on a trip to Kiev

1:10:28

when she tweeted, quote, the European

1:10:30

Union wants Ukraine to win this

1:10:33

war against Russia. Some EU officials

1:10:35

said they felt uneasy that the

1:10:37

head of the European external action

1:10:40

service less than a day into

1:10:42

her job felt that liberty to

1:10:45

go beyond what they considered to

1:10:47

be settled language more than two

1:10:49

years into Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

1:10:52

The aforementioned diplomat and nine other

1:10:54

EU diplomats and officials pointed to

1:10:56

what they viewed as a series

1:10:59

of missteps during Callis's first few

1:11:01

months on the job. From floating

1:11:03

heavy proposals without buy-in to taking

1:11:06

liberties with foreign policy statements, they

1:11:08

told Politico. She still has her

1:11:10

defenders, one of whom is the

1:11:13

Danish Prime Minister. Meddy Fertigson, another

1:11:15

female politician who is extremely pro-war

1:11:18

and backs Kajakhalais, a second diplomat

1:11:20

anonymously said, quote, overall we are

1:11:22

very happy with her. It goes

1:11:25

on, as Callis put her stamp

1:11:27

on the job pressuring EU countries

1:11:29

to give more military aid to

1:11:32

Ukraine, several diplomats chafed at her

1:11:34

leadership style complaining of what they

1:11:36

described as a lack of consultation

1:11:39

on sensitive matters. In subsequent months,

1:11:41

those concerns have only grown, including

1:11:43

regarding Callis' hawkishness on Russia. which

1:11:46

has left her out of step

1:11:48

with Spain and Italy, who do

1:11:51

not share her assessment of Moscow

1:11:53

as an imminent threat to the

1:11:55

EU. Quote, if you listen to

1:11:58

her, it seems we are at

1:12:00

war with Russia, which is not

1:12:02

the EU line, one EU official

1:12:05

complained. Then came the infamous exchange

1:12:07

by Jady Vance and US President

1:12:09

Donald Trump in the Oval Office

1:12:12

meeting with President Zelenski amid the

1:12:14

widespread shock at the vitriol aimed

1:12:16

at Zelenski. Callis tweeted that, quote,

1:12:19

the free world needs a new

1:12:21

leader. A comment that may have

1:12:24

matched the mood of indignation in

1:12:26

many parts of Europe, but also

1:12:28

irk countries adamant about maintaining a

1:12:31

bridge to the Trump White House.

1:12:33

Imagine the Prime Minister of Estonia

1:12:35

saying, we're now the leaders of

1:12:38

the free world, not the United

1:12:40

States. Quote, most countries don't want

1:12:42

to inflame things with the United

1:12:45

States at a sixth diplomat. Saying

1:12:47

the free world needs a new

1:12:50

leader just isn't what most leaders

1:12:52

wanted to put out there. Just

1:12:55

to give me the kind of

1:12:57

rhetoric this person uses, this Kajrkhalis

1:13:00

person, here she is at the

1:13:02

EU Council addressing the fact that

1:13:04

their EU members like Hungary that

1:13:07

don't support this foreign policy, that

1:13:09

don't want to confront Russia, that

1:13:11

want to try and put an

1:13:14

end diplomatically to the war in

1:13:16

Ukraine, and here's the kind of

1:13:18

language she used against them. Actually,

1:13:29

this is not that. I

1:13:31

don't know if we have

1:13:33

that. I think it's this.

1:13:35

Here is Cajacallas at the

1:13:37

Mary Conference. At the European

1:13:40

Defense Agency in January. Every

1:13:42

day Russia continues its war,

1:13:44

the price must go up.

1:13:46

Now we are working on

1:13:48

another, a 16 package of

1:13:50

sanctions. We have started to

1:13:53

see Russia's economy taking a

1:13:55

serious hit. They could not

1:13:57

afford to continue their efforts

1:13:59

in Syria while fighting in

1:14:01

Iraq. Ukraine. Russia's national funds

1:14:03

are quickly depleting. The national

1:14:06

interest rate is well over

1:14:08

20%. And they are getting

1:14:10

far fewer resources from gas

1:14:12

and oil. Gas bomb and

1:14:14

spare rug are looking at

1:14:16

mass layoffs. There is absolutely

1:14:19

no doubt that we can

1:14:21

do more to help Ukraine.

1:14:23

With our help, they can

1:14:25

also win the war. The

1:14:27

only language that Putin speaks

1:14:29

is the language of strength.

1:14:32

The EU has strength. Believing

1:14:34

that Ukraine can win the

1:14:36

war, meaning expelling all Russian

1:14:38

troops from every inch of

1:14:40

Ukrainian territory, including Crimea, requires

1:14:42

madness at this point. But

1:14:44

what does she care? She's

1:14:47

from a tiny little country

1:14:49

that will contribute nothing. She's

1:14:51

demanding that workers in Italy

1:14:53

and Spain and France. and

1:14:56

Germany pay for the glories of

1:14:59

this word that she wants. I

1:15:01

get why Estonians don't like Russians.

1:15:03

I understand the history of Soviet

1:15:06

domination of Eastern Europe, but she

1:15:08

has to face reality. And she

1:15:10

wants to be this glamorous, strong,

1:15:13

churchilian world leader, but the EU

1:15:15

doesn't have anywhere near the capability

1:15:18

to back up those words. Here

1:15:20

is Kajakales. in May of last

1:15:22

year at a different conference. Russia's

1:15:25

defeat is not a bad thing

1:15:27

because then you know there could

1:15:30

be really a change in the

1:15:32

society and you know there are

1:15:34

many different nations right now part

1:15:37

to Russia as well I think

1:15:39

if you would have a more

1:15:41

like small nations it's not a

1:15:44

bad thing if the big power

1:15:46

is actually much smaller. She's talking

1:15:49

about regime change in Russia, changing

1:15:51

the government of Russia, and then

1:15:53

breaking Russia. to a bunch of

1:15:56

little different pieces. That's the Ford

1:15:58

Minister of the EU, engaged in

1:16:00

utterly deranged fairy-tailed thinking. Here is

1:16:03

the Prime Minister of Finland, Meti

1:16:05

Frederiksen. I believe it's Finland and

1:16:08

not Denmark. Is it then Mark

1:16:10

or Finland? She's Danish. Yeah, she's

1:16:12

a Danish Prime Minister. And here's

1:16:15

how she's speaking. I don't think

1:16:17

we should panic, but I think

1:16:20

we are in a hurry. And

1:16:22

I think we have been in

1:16:24

a hurry for three years, but

1:16:27

now we really have to scale

1:16:29

up and to speed up, because

1:16:31

Russia and Putin is not only

1:16:34

friendly Ukraine, but all of us.

1:16:36

And we have to be able

1:16:39

to defend ourselves. The idea about

1:16:41

Ukraine is the same as it

1:16:43

has been now for three years,

1:16:46

that they have to win this

1:16:48

war. and if we allow Russia

1:16:50

to win the war, I'm sorry

1:16:53

to say it directly to all

1:16:55

of you, he will continue and

1:16:58

they will continue. And maybe we

1:17:00

will even give them a better

1:17:02

situation than today, because if we

1:17:05

end this war now, with some

1:17:07

kind of a frozen conflict, that's

1:17:10

fine, it will give Russia the

1:17:12

possibility to return to Russia, to

1:17:14

mobilize more funds people, and maybe

1:17:17

to attack another country in Europe.

1:17:19

The reason these people live in

1:17:21

a fantasy world is because they've

1:17:24

had the United States financing and

1:17:26

arming and fighting their words for

1:17:29

them for so many decades. So

1:17:31

they've gotten to simultaneously talk tough

1:17:33

as though they're fighting wars because

1:17:36

they contribute some troops while at

1:17:38

the same time. Not having to

1:17:41

spend any of their people's money

1:17:43

on it and giving them a

1:17:45

welfare state that you can spend

1:17:48

that you can afford to give

1:17:50

if you're not spending massive amounts

1:17:52

in the military the way the

1:17:55

United States has been doing. But

1:17:57

now they're actually having to face

1:18:00

reality if the United States is

1:18:02

not going to continue to pay

1:18:04

the military industrial complex to defend

1:18:07

Europe and fight its wars for

1:18:09

it, why should the United States do

1:18:11

so? And so they still want to talk

1:18:13

this tough talk, but the realities

1:18:15

are they don't have the political

1:18:18

will nor the resources nor anything

1:18:20

resembling a serious military in order

1:18:22

to back it up. I mean, as I

1:18:24

said, Michael Walt said in that. signal

1:18:26

group from a couple days

1:18:29

ago, they can't even fight

1:18:31

the Houthis. They don't have

1:18:33

the military sophistication to, or

1:18:36

the navies, to battle

1:18:38

Yemen. And we're seeing now

1:18:40

that there's just zero willingness

1:18:42

to back up any of

1:18:45

this rhetoric. It was like

1:18:47

when the British Prime Minister

1:18:49

wanted to be all Churchill,

1:18:52

the British are obsessed with

1:18:54

being Churchill, to keep the

1:18:56

peace there and prevent Russia from

1:18:58

advancing. And then the next

1:19:01

day I had to come out and

1:19:03

admit, like, actually, we can't do anything

1:19:05

without US air cover. So we're just

1:19:08

saying that if the US is willing

1:19:10

to go to war in Ukraine against

1:19:12

Russia, then we will, but we can't

1:19:14

do without the US. And that's the

1:19:16

reality of what and who Europe

1:19:18

is, including the UK. Just

1:19:21

want to show you one bizarre... Article

1:19:24

that came out today that gives you

1:19:26

a sense for just how far gone the

1:19:28

Europeans are in terms of The

1:19:31

unreality in which they're living

1:19:33

it's from the financial times

1:19:35

the headline is EU calls

1:19:37

for households to stockpile 72

1:19:39

hours of food amid war

1:19:41

risks Quote new realities require

1:19:43

a new level of preparedness

1:19:45

in Europe said Commission President

1:19:47

Ursula von der Leyen Our

1:19:50

citizens, our member states, and

1:19:52

our businesses need the right tools

1:19:54

to act both to prevent crises

1:19:56

and to react swiftly when a

1:19:59

disaster hits. So even

1:20:01

as every country around her is

1:20:03

telling this unelected person that they

1:20:05

can't fund this massive military rearmament

1:20:07

that she envisions, they won't, they

1:20:09

won't go into greater debt for

1:20:12

it, their populations won't tolerate it.

1:20:14

She's basically now telling European citizens,

1:20:16

you're in a war, you have

1:20:18

to stock up and make sure

1:20:20

you have 72 hours worth of

1:20:22

food, because she envisions that Europe

1:20:24

is at war with Russia. This

1:20:26

is how they think. And

1:20:29

while I'm very critical of things

1:20:31

the Trump administration has done in

1:20:33

the first two months of the

1:20:36

presidency, one of which are about

1:20:38

to get to, others of which

1:20:40

involve censorship, the resumption of the

1:20:42

word Ukraine, the continuation of the

1:20:44

destruction of Gaza, Trump is making

1:20:46

progress in facilitating a peace deal

1:20:49

of Russia and Ukraine, and on

1:20:51

some level, you can make the

1:20:53

argument that in terms of world

1:20:55

security and given the utter... insanity

1:20:57

of how the Europeans are thinking

1:20:59

and speaking, that there may be

1:21:02

nothing more important than putting an

1:21:04

end to this war, diplomatically, which

1:21:06

Trump ran on a promise of

1:21:08

doing the American people want, and

1:21:10

Trump has now made significant strives

1:21:12

in achieving. We reported previously last

1:21:15

week on the controversy surrounding the

1:21:17

fact that the Trump administration, during

1:21:19

the campaign, promised to mass deport

1:21:21

illegal... people in the United States

1:21:23

illegally. And deportations typically means, in

1:21:25

fact, always means picking people up

1:21:28

who are in your country illegally

1:21:30

and setting them back to their

1:21:32

country of origin. They get a

1:21:34

very quick hearing in a basically

1:21:36

a quasi court, a deportation court

1:21:38

inside the Justice Department, as long

1:21:41

as the government can show they

1:21:43

don't have the legal papers to

1:21:45

be in the United States and

1:21:47

the person can't show they have.

1:21:49

The legal documents, the deportation is

1:21:52

approved and they get sent back

1:21:54

to their own country. And

1:21:56

the Trump administration is doing some

1:21:59

of that, not nearly at the

1:22:01

level. promise but they're doing some

1:22:03

of it. But they're doing something

1:22:05

much much different which is that

1:22:07

they're picking people up primarily Venezuelans

1:22:09

up until now and they're not

1:22:12

sending them back to Venezuela. They're

1:22:14

sending them to a third country

1:22:16

that these people have nothing to

1:22:18

do with if they're not citizens

1:22:20

of that most in most of

1:22:22

not all cases they've never visited

1:22:24

which is El Salvador. And

1:22:27

the United States government is

1:22:29

paying the government of El

1:22:31

Salvador not to accept them,

1:22:34

but to incarcerate them in

1:22:36

one of the most horrific

1:22:38

prisons that exist in the

1:22:40

world, to film them being

1:22:42

humiliated and dehumanized, all based

1:22:45

on the accusation that the

1:22:47

Trump administration refuses to prove

1:22:49

that these people are members

1:22:51

of a violent gang. based

1:22:54

on the invocation of war powers

1:22:56

that has only been used three

1:22:59

times previously in actual wars, the

1:23:01

war of 1812, World War I,

1:23:03

World War II. But even then,

1:23:06

the people who were ordered under

1:23:08

the alien enemies act to be

1:23:10

deported got a hearing, and yet

1:23:13

the Trump administration is sending these

1:23:15

people, including people who have... Obviously

1:23:17

compelling cases that they're not part

1:23:20

of this gang that they've been

1:23:22

mistaken for gang members, just like

1:23:24

the US, told us during Guantanamo,

1:23:27

the war in terror, that only

1:23:29

the worst of the worst were

1:23:31

there, and it turned out many

1:23:34

of the people there had nothing

1:23:36

to do with terrorism. They were

1:23:38

innocent. They were part of mistaken

1:23:41

identity, any number of reasons why.

1:23:43

That's what happens when you don't

1:23:45

give people due process. You imprison

1:23:48

people unjustly. that this stop that

1:23:50

no detainees be delivered to El

1:23:52

Salvador without first getting a hearing

1:23:55

and the administration rushed to move

1:23:57

them there brought 237 of the

1:23:59

mayor refused to turn the plane

1:24:02

around and a lot of Trump

1:24:04

supporters have been complaining oh this

1:24:06

is just a single federal judge

1:24:09

who is he to order the

1:24:11

president to stop some policy based

1:24:14

on his belief that it's unconstitutional

1:24:16

or illegal even though as we

1:24:18

showed you on Monday night that's

1:24:21

how our system works. Conservatives have

1:24:23

often got injunctions from single district

1:24:25

court judges to stop. Biden policy

1:24:28

to stop Obama policy to stop

1:24:30

Clinton policy. But the DOJ appealed

1:24:32

that injunction, so it's not before

1:24:35

just a single district judge now,

1:24:37

it's before the US Court of

1:24:39

Appeals, which is the highest appellate

1:24:42

court in the country. It's right

1:24:44

below the Supreme Court in terms

1:24:46

of prestige. And they held an

1:24:49

oral argument on Monday, and we

1:24:51

played a lot of that for

1:24:53

you or some of it, which

1:24:56

we showed you how antagonistic, how

1:24:58

adversarial. How aggressive the judges on

1:25:00

the panel are being toward the

1:25:03

Trump Justice Department's arguments about why

1:25:05

they have the legal authority to

1:25:07

do this and Made quite clear

1:25:10

that it's extremely likely That the

1:25:12

appellate court would uphold that injunction

1:25:14

So that now it's not just

1:25:17

a single federal court judge. It's

1:25:19

a the most prestigious appellate court

1:25:21

in the country right below the

1:25:24

Supreme Court. That's that's doing so

1:25:26

and the three judges were an

1:25:28

Obama appointee a George H. W.

1:25:31

Bush appointee and a Trump appointee.

1:25:33

And the decision that the issue

1:25:36

today was a two to one

1:25:38

decision which upheld this injunction that

1:25:40

the federal district court issued or

1:25:43

the Trump administration not to support

1:25:45

anyone else back to all Salvador,

1:25:47

at least not without hearings. And

1:25:50

even the judge and the judge.

1:25:52

people inside the United States illegally

1:25:54

that the Trump administration proposes to

1:25:57

send to a prison a foreign

1:25:59

country has... a right to a

1:26:01

habeas corpus hearing, to an opportunity

1:26:04

to prove that he's being unjustly

1:26:06

accused, the only reason he dissented

1:26:08

was he said that the case

1:26:11

should have been brought where they

1:26:13

were detained and not in Washington.

1:26:15

But on the substance of whether

1:26:18

they have a due process right,

1:26:20

the dissenting judge agreed. It was

1:26:22

essentially three zero on that question.

1:26:25

Here you see the ruling. It

1:26:27

says it is further ordered that

1:26:29

the emergency motions for stay be

1:26:32

denied. Separate concurring judgments of Judge

1:26:34

Henderson, that's the Bush 41 judge,

1:26:36

and Judge Millett, the Obama judge,

1:26:39

and a dissenting statement of Judge

1:26:41

Walker are attached. And this was

1:26:43

from the ruling of Judge Henderson,

1:26:46

the Bush 41 judge, who... ruled

1:26:48

against the Trump DOJ. She wrote,

1:26:50

quote, the alien enemies act, AEA,

1:26:53

contains two provisions, a conditional cause

1:26:55

and an operative cause. The conditional

1:26:58

cause limits the AEA's substantive authority

1:27:00

to conflicts between the United States

1:27:02

and a foreign power. Specifically, there

1:27:05

must be, quote, there must be

1:27:07

one, a declared war between United

1:27:09

States and any foreign nation or

1:27:12

government. Or two, an invasion of

1:27:14

predatory incursion, perpetrated, attempted, or threatened

1:27:16

against the territory of the United

1:27:19

States by any foreign nation or

1:27:21

government. And three, a presidential public

1:27:23

proclamation of the event. She went

1:27:26

on, a central limit to this

1:27:28

power is the act's conditional clause,

1:27:30

that the United States be at

1:27:33

war or under invasion or predatory

1:27:35

incursion. And she talked about how

1:27:37

the only times it had ever

1:27:40

been enacted was during traditional wars.

1:27:42

the War of 1812, World War

1:27:44

I, World War II, how the

1:27:47

founders enacted it specifically to confront

1:27:49

a possible war than the quasi

1:27:51

war that they ended up fighting

1:27:54

with the French, and everything in

1:27:56

the record of this. law was

1:27:58

that it needed to be invoked

1:28:01

or needed to be available solely

1:28:03

in the case of an actual

1:28:05

war? And she went on to

1:28:08

say that she's not issuing an

1:28:10

opinion about whether or not there

1:28:12

can be an invasion, but that

1:28:15

the likelihood of victory is what

1:28:17

the plaintiffs, because she doesn't believe

1:28:20

the AA is applicable to fighting

1:28:22

a few hundred members of a

1:28:24

violent gang. That's not what the

1:28:27

alien enemies act is for. And

1:28:29

that's an important limitation on the

1:28:31

law because this law gives the

1:28:34

president enormous powers, very extraordinary powers.

1:28:36

And that's why we have to

1:28:38

be very careful about the president's

1:28:41

ability to just declare war. Otherwise,

1:28:43

the Constitution makes no, has no

1:28:45

purpose. Bush and Cheney claim more

1:28:48

powers because they were fighting the

1:28:50

war on terror. Any president could

1:28:52

say, oh, we're at war. And

1:28:55

now I have the ability to

1:28:57

do everything. But

1:28:59

Judge Millett, the Obama judge, emphasized

1:29:02

that even under the AA, the

1:29:04

people who are ordered by the

1:29:06

President deported, always have a due

1:29:09

process right and always did. Even

1:29:11

the people accused of being Nazi

1:29:14

sympathizes in World War II. Here's

1:29:16

what she wrote. Judicial Review has

1:29:18

always been available to non-citizen detained

1:29:21

or removed under the AEA. During

1:29:23

the War of 1812, Chief Justice

1:29:26

John Marshall and Federal District Judge

1:29:28

St. George Tucker offered a British

1:29:30

subject released because the local marshal

1:29:33

had acted beyond his delegated authority

1:29:35

by detaining the plaintiff without proper

1:29:37

notice. And then she cites the

1:29:40

histories of these cases. in which

1:29:42

even people, we can go on,

1:29:45

even people who are detained under

1:29:47

these laws have been given due

1:29:49

process. She then went on, the

1:29:52

Supreme Court. the Pennsylvania Supreme Court,

1:29:54

we can go on. The Pennsylvania

1:29:56

Supreme Court later agreed with the

1:29:59

Chief Justice that those subject to

1:30:01

the AEA are entitled to judicial

1:30:04

review and she cited a 1813

1:30:06

case from the Pennsylvania Supreme Court

1:30:08

that during the war in 1812

1:30:11

people ordered by the president removed

1:30:13

have a right to a hearing

1:30:16

to contest the accusations against them

1:30:18

that they are really a threat.

1:30:20

The judge went on, quote, these

1:30:23

early cases set a precedent followed

1:30:25

during the 20th century. Review was

1:30:27

available during World War I, cites

1:30:30

a 1919 case in a federal

1:30:32

district judge, as well as World

1:30:35

War II, setting a US Supreme

1:30:37

Court ruling in 1948 that stated,

1:30:39

quote, hearings are utilized by the

1:30:42

executive to secure an informed basis

1:30:44

for the exercise of summary power.

1:30:47

She went on, quote, indeed, during

1:30:49

World War II, a former member

1:30:51

of the Nazi party. Not only

1:30:54

received a hearing on his eligibility

1:30:56

for removal, but also had his

1:30:58

case heard by the Supreme Court

1:31:01

and She ruled that this removal

1:31:03

is unconstitutional because as the Supreme

1:31:06

Court ruled even for detainees in

1:31:08

Guantanamo You cannot consign people to

1:31:10

prison Even if they're in your

1:31:13

country illegally, even if they're not

1:31:15

citizens, you cannot put people in

1:31:17

prison Based on an

1:31:20

allegation that they're terrorists, they're involved

1:31:22

in terrorist organization, that they're a

1:31:24

violent member of a violent drug

1:31:26

gang, without giving the accused, the

1:31:29

person you want to put in

1:31:31

prison, the opportunity to demonstrate that

1:31:33

the accusations are false, that they've

1:31:36

gotten the wrong person, or to

1:31:38

present evidence that convinces a court

1:31:40

that they've been wrongly accused. This

1:31:43

is foundational to the American system

1:31:45

even in wartime. Now

1:31:48

what's interesting is the Trump appointed judge

1:31:50

Judge Walker did dissent But as I

1:31:52

said he dissented mostly on the grounds

1:31:54

of where the case was brought He

1:31:56

said it was shouldn't have been brought

1:31:59

in Washington, but in Texas you have

1:32:01

to bring it in the place where

1:32:03

the people are detained, not where the

1:32:05

government officials are. And in his dissent,

1:32:07

he said this, quote, the two sides

1:32:10

of this case agree on very

1:32:12

little, but what is at this

1:32:14

point uncontested is that,

1:32:16

quote, individuals identified as

1:32:18

alien enemies may challenge

1:32:20

that status in a

1:32:23

habeas petition. And

1:32:26

as I said, he went on to say,

1:32:28

that should have been brought in Texas, not

1:32:30

Washington, therefore he would have dismissed the case.

1:32:32

He also said that there's delicate diplomacy

1:32:35

according to the government going

1:32:37

on between Venezuela and El

1:32:39

Salvador and the United States,

1:32:41

and that a ruling like this might disrupt

1:32:43

those diplomatic relations, and therefore the

1:32:45

equities are on the side of

1:32:47

lifting the injunction. But all three

1:32:50

of these judges agreed with the court

1:32:52

point that you cannot send people

1:32:54

to an unrelated country. Based

1:32:56

on an accusation that you haven't

1:32:58

proven or given them an opportunity

1:33:01

to contest And as we've gone over

1:33:03

there's a hundred and fifty years Supreme

1:33:05

Court history That says that the Bill

1:33:08

of Rights is not a list of

1:33:10

protections given solely to a small group

1:33:12

of people called American citizens It is

1:33:14

intended to be a constraint on what

1:33:17

the US government does and

1:33:19

can do with respect to everyone

1:33:21

under their control If

1:33:24

the Trump administration wants to

1:33:26

do mass deportation, they convinced

1:33:28

Americans to vote for that.

1:33:30

Poll show people favor that. And if they

1:33:32

were deporting people back to

1:33:35

their home country, none of this would

1:33:37

be an issue. But when you change that

1:33:39

to something far more radical, sending

1:33:41

people based on interpretations of

1:33:43

their tattoos or the flimsiest

1:33:46

evidence that you haven't even

1:33:48

presented to a court. And

1:33:51

you accuse people of being violent criminals

1:33:53

and send them to a prison designed

1:33:55

to be one of the worst and

1:33:57

most destructive and humiliating and dehumanizing prisons.

1:33:59

in the entire world where the

1:34:01

El Salvadorian government has said they

1:34:03

may never leave, they may be

1:34:06

here for life. Not just basic

1:34:08

human rights, but our constitution, our

1:34:10

laws, our precedent, as all three

1:34:12

judges agreed, including the Trump appointed

1:34:14

judge, require that they be given

1:34:16

an opportunity to contest the charges

1:34:18

against them. This should not even

1:34:20

be controversial. And yet, it has

1:34:22

become such because if you sufficiently

1:34:24

dehumanized people and this is what

1:34:26

we saw in the world, we're

1:34:28

on terror. If the government

1:34:30

labels them terrorists without proving it, even

1:34:33

if it's wrong, enough people will say,

1:34:35

oh, these people are animals, they're not

1:34:37

even humans, they deserve no rights, kill

1:34:39

them, torture them, kidnap them, put them

1:34:41

in prison for life, they don't need

1:34:43

a trial, and that is always what

1:34:45

the founders feared most. What is that

1:34:48

the government would raise the fear level

1:34:50

sufficiently so that people would give away

1:34:52

their own liberties? Remember Benjamin Franklin? And

1:34:54

this is an apocryopal, this is documented.

1:34:56

when he left the constitutional convention was

1:34:58

asked by a woman what is it

1:35:00

that he did in there and he

1:35:02

said we created a republic if you

1:35:05

can keep it knowing that the biggest

1:35:07

danger to the bill of rights would

1:35:09

be that citizens the population would be

1:35:11

manipulated or fear-mongered into giving up those

1:35:13

rights and that's what typically happens we

1:35:15

see this all the time and that's

1:35:17

what's happening now and now the appellate

1:35:20

court it's not just one judge it's

1:35:22

a three-judge appellate court has ruled that

1:35:24

doing this without a hearing We're even

1:35:26

invoking the law to justify it is

1:35:28

likely to fail on the merits and

1:35:30

therefore these deportations are still enjoying not

1:35:32

by one judge but by a three

1:35:34

judge panel. All

1:35:38

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