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all the latest Hello,
1:01
and a very happy Christmas to
1:03
all of you. Welcome to our special
1:05
Christmas edition of Table Manners. Well,
1:07
I hope it's all going well. I
1:09
I hope you've managed to avoid too
1:12
many or champagne before the grave is made. the grave
1:14
is made. We have gathered together
1:16
some brilliant out guests to find out
1:18
how they'll be spending the festive period
1:20
hear to hear about their Christmas traditions
1:22
to see if you want to inherit
1:24
any of them. of the first time,
1:26
this special is going out on
1:28
Christmas Day. We think think it's the perfect
1:31
accompaniment. lunch or lunch, listening on listening
1:33
on your walk. Well you're in for a
1:35
you're in for a treat we'll
1:37
be be joined by kitchen disco queen
1:39
herself, Elizabeth. The The gorgeous will be
1:41
will be dining in from
1:43
music rehearsals. The film director, Richard will
1:45
be telling us about his
1:47
latest Christmas movie, and we
1:50
movie. And we catch Girls Allowed, who's currently
1:52
hot is it to Heathrow. it
1:54
to Heathrow. But first, his Ugly Betty Broadway
1:56
star, the the wonderful Vanessa Williams,
1:59
is currently starring. in the West End
2:01
in the Devil Wares Prada. Hi
2:03
Vanessa, how are you? I'm okay.
2:05
I'm okay. We're looking gorgeous. Thank
2:07
you. We've already done 52 shows
2:10
already here which is incredible. So
2:12
considering we just opened, we've been
2:14
here for a while. How's it
2:16
all feeling at the dominion theater?
2:18
Devil Wares Prada, how's it feeling?
2:20
It's. phenomenal. I mean, it's the
2:23
best entrance I've ever had in
2:25
my life on stage. I come
2:27
up in a lift after this
2:29
whole swell of a crescendo of
2:31
the orchestra bringing me up and
2:34
then there's a ding of the
2:36
bell and everyone imagines the doors
2:38
open and I get a thunderous
2:40
applause every every show so it
2:42
could not be any better. I
2:45
thank I thank Jerry Mitchell for
2:47
for putting it in the show.
2:49
How fabulous. That's quite interesting because
2:51
I know that like applause is
2:53
usually happen on Broadway when a
2:55
star enters. But we're so reserved
2:58
in the UK. So it must
3:00
be, well, everyone's very excited about
3:02
seeing you, Vanessa. But also, that's
3:04
quite unusual for the UK audience
3:06
to give an applause, isn't it?
3:09
Yeah, it's been, again, I'm used
3:11
to Broadway audiences, so I get
3:13
it, everyone usually gets an entrance
3:15
applause. Yeah. But again, it's so
3:17
dynamic with the orchestration, and it
3:19
literally is like a crescendo, and
3:22
then I'm wearing an incredible. multi-colored
3:24
fur with a gorgeous suit and
3:26
the glasses and I'm holding the
3:28
runway in my hand with a
3:30
fabulous bag so the people that
3:33
love the franchise are like yeah
3:35
we're ready the people that have
3:37
no idea about the story at
3:39
all but just are coming because
3:41
they're bringing their daughter or whatever
3:44
they are thoroughly entertained and and
3:46
Jerry Mitchell who is our director
3:48
and choreographer knows how to make
3:50
a hit show. She's a big
3:52
star just. She's bound to get
3:54
a huge huge entrance. Vanessa, can
3:57
we ask, are you going to
3:59
be basing your turkey this Christmas
4:01
like you do at Thanksgiving? I
4:03
wish, I don't think I'm cooking
4:05
at all. We've got a show
4:08
Christmas Eve and then we've got
4:10
a show on Boxing Day and
4:12
I'm in a flat, a two-bedroom
4:14
flat, so I'm, you know, you...
4:16
you've got your your pants that
4:18
you like and your your butcher's
4:21
that you like so I haven't
4:23
found I'm sure there's amazing places
4:25
here I've not done my research
4:27
to find the proper thing so
4:29
I'll probably either go out or
4:32
I don't know what I'm going
4:34
to do. Why are you invited
4:36
for Christmas? We've got a space
4:38
for you if you need one.
4:40
Ah, well thank you. Otherwise Vanessa
4:42
I do think you need to
4:45
get your reservation in order ASAP.
4:47
I hate to break it to
4:49
you but you know we need
4:51
to get that clarages reservation like
4:53
done. Yeah. Lenny, I'm still dreaming
4:56
about you did a flowerless chocolate
4:58
cake when I came to your
5:00
home that I still, and you
5:02
did no flour and I think
5:04
it was plums or something, it
5:07
was so moist and delicious that
5:09
still haunts me to this day.
5:11
Oh my goodness. Oh maybe I
5:13
better make you another one for
5:15
Christmas. And or you're getting out
5:17
away with it this Christmas because
5:20
you're not... on home soil? Yes,
5:22
I'm getting away without not doing
5:24
it because my children came in
5:26
for our opening on December 1st,
5:28
so they all had their opportunity
5:31
to hang out in London for
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a week or so, which has
5:35
been great. And they had a
5:37
wonderful time. I mean, there's nothing
5:39
like London for the holidays. The
5:41
streets are lined with beautiful decorations
5:44
and lighting and... Every store is
5:46
just decorated to the 9th. It's
5:48
beautiful here. So it's like a
5:50
giant Christmas market everywhere you go.
5:52
Yeah, a recent guest called London
5:55
the Christmas City and I really
5:57
think it is. It's funny, I
5:59
think we're all so bahumbug about
6:01
it. Yeah. Like, oh God, the
6:03
idea of being in bloody Oxford
6:05
Street is my idea of hell
6:08
right now. It is busy, that's
6:10
very... But I guess you have
6:12
to be there, but at least
6:14
you can just walk. Yes. So
6:16
lots of my friends have come
6:19
in to see the show and
6:21
then do their holidays. So I've
6:23
done the Fortinna Mason, we did
6:25
the tea there, because Sundays are
6:27
my day off. So Sundays I
6:30
tend to have to... Shepard, all
6:32
my friends and friends that are
6:34
in the city to, you know,
6:36
we went to see the Elin
6:38
John at the Victoria and Albert
6:40
Museum. He has this beautiful retrospective
6:43
of photography, so we did that.
6:45
We've done high tea, you know,
6:47
selfages and the Harards and everything
6:49
there is. So I know the
6:51
crowds on Oxford Street. I have
6:54
been, you know, wiggling my way
6:56
through the crowds as well. Is
6:58
there a Christmas tradition on Christmas
7:00
Eve? Will everyone stop and have
7:02
at the end of the show?
7:04
Will you all have a glass
7:07
of champagne and maybe just a
7:09
bit of a celebration and a
7:11
group hug before you? Everyone breaks
7:13
up for Christmas Day. I don't
7:15
know. We'll see. I mean, I
7:18
know my dresser Murray, who's phenomenal,
7:20
did decorated, I snuck into my
7:22
dressing room and decorated, put a
7:24
tree up and all kinds of
7:26
beautiful twinkle lights. So there's that,
7:28
and we had a Christmas jumper
7:31
days, we did a big group
7:33
shot of that. So it's a
7:35
wonderful cast. Where did you get
7:37
your Christmas jumper from Vanessa? Prada.
7:39
Prada. Prada. Prada. Prada. We like
7:42
to call it a primoisse or
7:44
pramani sometimes. Yeah PR begins with
7:46
Prado and Prima almost the same
7:48
aren't they? Before we let you
7:50
go Vanessa so you can actually
7:53
just rest. What is your favorite
7:55
Christmas song? Well I mean personally
7:57
I have one called... December lullaby
7:59
which I recorded for my silver
8:01
and gold album so I had
8:03
my mom was is a well
8:06
she used to be a music
8:08
teacher and she had a children's
8:10
choir so I always would have
8:12
her bring a select group of
8:14
kids to sing on my albums
8:17
and then Sasha was only four
8:19
at the time so she starts
8:21
it off with shh. Listen. And
8:23
then it always makes me cry
8:25
because every time I hear her
8:27
voice, it's like, oh, that's my
8:30
little baby. And so that's, September
8:32
lullaby has, you know, her say,
8:34
la la la, la, la, la,
8:36
la, la, la, la. So it
8:38
just breaks me to listen to
8:41
her saying, the traditional one, probably.
8:43
I mean Silent Night is just
8:45
a beautiful, beautiful medley. Melody and
8:47
it's just timeless. I've sung it.
8:49
My most unique time was singing
8:51
it in German for Arnold Schwarzenegger
8:53
when he was governor of California
8:55
and Maria Shropper called and said,
8:57
listen, they're doing, you know, Arnold
8:59
is finishing his term as governor.
9:01
There's a group of people that
9:03
are going to fly up to
9:05
surprise him. And it was me,
9:07
Danny DeVito. Tom Arnold, Sylvester, it
9:09
was like the weirdest group of
9:11
people on this private plane to
9:13
surprise him. And I sang still
9:15
in October. Eilginach to him in
9:17
German, which was silent and it
9:19
was amazing. And he, I made
9:21
him cry, I made him tear
9:23
up and Maria's like, how did
9:25
you do that? I can't make
9:27
him do that. How did you
9:30
do that? You made the Terminator
9:32
cry. That's amazing. Can I ask
9:34
one thing, Vanessa? Are you wearing
9:36
stilettos throughout the whole show? I
9:38
am I change pretty much with
9:40
every scene so and I have
9:42
a tip that I saw on
9:44
reals I think on Instagram if
9:46
you put I've got you know
9:48
those corn socks like those toe
9:50
like yeah tubes that are cushioned
9:52
if you do your third and
9:54
fourth toe together it makes your
9:56
feet more narrow and it cushions
9:58
where the pressure is so you
10:00
can wear high heels all day
10:02
long so that's my tip and
10:04
it actually works so it's it's
10:06
toes you know there's a pinky
10:08
toe so the one right next
10:10
to the pinky toe and the
10:12
third toe take to put those
10:14
together. Find them up put just
10:16
put your heels on and you
10:18
will not feel any pressure. which
10:20
is what kills you in the
10:22
high hills. Wow, that's amazing Vanessa.
10:24
Thank you for that tip. All
10:26
the Christmas parties, everyone needs to
10:28
know. So you're going to be
10:30
having your flatties on on Christmas
10:33
Day. Yes, or Bears. For sure.
10:35
Vanessa, we can't wait to come
10:37
and watch you in the Devil
10:39
wears Prado. Thank you so much
10:41
for being on our Christmas special.
10:43
You look gorgeous, happy Christmas, and
10:45
we'll see you soon. Yeah, and
10:47
break a leg and many legs.
10:49
So great, catch up with Vanessa,
10:51
looking absolutely gorgeous, sitting in central
10:53
London. Now we're going from one
10:55
queen to another. It's time to
10:57
speak to the kitchen disco queen.
10:59
Well, Mom, hang on, I think
11:01
she's slightly more than that. She
11:03
had probably one of the biggest
11:05
pop moments. She's had a big
11:07
year. In 2024. Yeah. And it
11:09
was right, well, it was right
11:11
at the end of 2023. And
11:13
then, you know. She performed at
11:15
the BAFTAs this year. She has
11:17
a New Year's Eve special on
11:19
BBC and she's going to be
11:21
in America at the same time,
11:23
basically on two different screens, trans-Atlantic,
11:25
celebrating the new year. And she
11:27
puts the glamour back in the
11:29
kitchen. She's the gift that keeps
11:31
on giving. It's Sophie Elis Bexta.
11:33
What are some of the Christmas
11:36
traditions in your house? So we
11:38
have a lot of traditions actually
11:40
and some of them I didn't
11:42
realise until I was... probably into
11:44
like my teens that not other
11:46
families were doing them. So they
11:48
all emanate from the Ellis side
11:50
of the family and we host
11:52
Christmas every year Richard and I
11:54
we have done for about must
11:56
be nearly 20 years now, everybody
11:58
comes to us. And my mum
12:00
is always with us, so these
12:02
Alice traditions prevail. Some of them,
12:04
okay, I don't know, do you
12:06
know about tree presents? See I
12:08
think this is a strange one.
12:10
Yeah. Oh, you did? My friend
12:12
does that on Christmas Eve, right?
12:14
So she does tiny tree presents
12:16
that are about a pound. Little
12:18
tiny things and everyone gets a
12:20
tree present on Christmas Eve. Okay,
12:22
what's your tree present? So for
12:24
us, it's anything that can be
12:26
balanced on the branches of the
12:28
Christmas tree. So not really necessarily
12:30
a pound. Sometimes they might be,
12:32
I suppose like stocking filler-esque. And
12:34
yeah, diamond rings. No, no diamond
12:36
ring, it could be. It's not,
12:39
yeah. It's it. And every year
12:41
you have to balance them and
12:43
then lose some. So there's always
12:45
an awkward bit when you open
12:47
them, which is usually after the
12:49
big meal on Christmas Day, so
12:51
we'll open them like. five or
12:53
six in the evening and I've
12:55
always got a couple of people
12:57
where I just cannot find this
12:59
very small item but I've somewhere
13:01
hidden on our tree. I think
13:03
it's been my mother-in-law more often
13:05
than not and it's genuine I
13:07
haven't not got her something but
13:09
it always looks like I haven't
13:11
because I can't find it. What's
13:13
been your best Christmas tree present
13:15
that you've given and been gifted?
13:17
I think my favourites used to
13:19
come from my grandpa actually he's
13:21
sadly not around anymore but he
13:23
was a very practical man so
13:25
he would do quite sort of
13:27
useful type gifts so it might
13:29
be a gadget for something maybe
13:31
like a kitchen gadget or something
13:33
a bit a bit useful like
13:35
that and a lot of them
13:37
I still use so I always
13:40
think of him actually this time
13:42
of year he used to be
13:44
a special effects man at the
13:46
BBC for years and the BBC
13:48
for years and sometimes he would
13:50
come to Christmas and he'd made
13:52
like a homemade firework for the
13:54
quite bonkers, but good fun. And
13:56
then for giving people, well, there
13:58
was a year actually, why, I
14:00
framed pictures of the school
14:02
kids you know, know they're like
14:04
class photos photos. so done done
14:06
different kids for different family
14:09
members. members. And accident again,
14:11
Daphne, my my mother -in -law, opened it
14:13
and opened it I didn't want that
14:15
one want that one. We're not going to
14:17
say which which child that
14:20
was was. She came to to of it. It
14:22
fine fine. And the other And the other
14:24
tradition we have, which I don't think other people
14:26
do. do, is is whenever we
14:28
do the Christmas pudding. pudding. So you you
14:30
set fire to it then then carry
14:32
it around the house a a line singing
14:34
here comes the comes the pudding to
14:36
the of his, he's a jolly good good fellow.
14:38
Maybe could do that here comes
14:40
the the pudding here comes the Christmas
14:43
pudding he comes the Christmas pudding, comes the Christmas pudding, he
14:45
my god that sounds really fun
14:47
us. like that yeah like you
14:49
weave around the house and I
14:51
like it it's it's definitely odd
14:53
but I like it it's jolly I
14:56
like it's jolly. Do you wonder if you
14:58
could do that with do that with a trifle?
15:00
Yeah, here comes the Christmas trifle. Yeah, okay, amazing. Wow, I'm really,
15:02
I feel amazing. adopt some of I feel
15:04
like I may adopt some of
15:06
your Christmas traditions. The Christmas What I used
15:08
to think is a really good a
15:10
kid you so like about it
15:12
as a kid? the excitement got
15:14
all the excitement of Christmas the the tree
15:16
present was like a little a little nice little... It
15:18
would sort of give you a little pep in
15:21
the evening when the grown -ups had eaten a lot
15:23
and they were all sitting quite quietly lot you were
15:25
feeling like a bit like oh and that the end
15:27
of you know a the oh is that the mad
15:29
rush of excitement in the the morning and it
15:31
would give you just another little like in
15:33
thing to open it quite give quite a nice
15:35
moment little kids get they look forward to it
15:37
because it's like a little fun bit and
15:39
it's sometimes quite silly things and just something
15:41
thoughtful to it be something crazy it should just
15:43
be something bit and it's sometimes quite silly
15:45
things appreciate, I guess. or funny. funny.
15:47
you doing the cooking this
15:49
year? does the does the majority. a
15:51
He's a much better cook than
15:53
me, and he's much calmer
15:55
in the kitchen. the kitchen. I used to I
15:58
used to find it very hard to delegate. he's
16:00
very good at we all muck in Christmas
16:02
Eve we get all gathered together we'll be
16:04
chopping peeling on Christmas Day he's he's the
16:07
guy in the in the kitchen with the
16:09
apron he loves it so he's got his
16:11
apron on you've got your glitter glittery tinsley
16:13
leotard and you'll be singing what music do
16:16
you have playing when you're cooking your dinner
16:18
we have a Christmas playlist it's all the
16:20
songs you would expect all the classics all
16:22
the classics all the classics all the classics
16:25
My favorite, I think is still Christmas wrapping
16:27
by the waitresses. I've always loved that one.
16:29
Do you know that one? Ready? The one.
16:32
Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. But I think I've
16:34
done it. Do you think I was this
16:36
one this year? I thought it's called. Oh
16:38
wow. It's like a love song. It's a
16:41
very fun song. We always have the Charlie
16:43
Brown album. They like jazz Charlie Browner. I
16:45
love that's what me and Sam put on
16:47
when we like wrapping presents. I love that
16:50
one. Yeah, I'm very inter, I never get
16:52
bored of them. I never get bored of
16:54
them. to in February. I won't be, but
16:56
anyway. What's the best present you've ever received?
16:59
I think Richard's done some quite thoughtful ones.
17:01
He's actually very good with Christmas presents and
17:03
he once bought me, I once said when
17:05
I was growing up I remember being horrified
17:08
when my step-mum said she wanted for Christmas
17:10
a salad spinner. I was like, I never
17:12
want to get to the stage in life
17:15
where I think that that's fine. I just
17:17
I remember being like what do you just
17:19
want a salad spinner? So one year he
17:21
bought me a salad spinner and when I
17:24
opened it there was a necklace inside that
17:26
I'd seen in a shop that I really
17:28
loved and he remembered got the necklace and
17:30
hid it inside the salad spinner. That Richard
17:33
is just a good guy. He cooks and
17:35
they work together they're the best. Now on
17:37
to New Year's Eve you're having like the
17:39
most Mammoth, New Year's Eve, Bicostal. Yeah, Bicostal,
17:42
is that what we say? I don't know,
17:44
cross transatlanticly. Are we allowed to know about
17:46
what's happening? Absolutely. So I think the one
17:49
that's occupying the most brain space in a
17:51
really good way is the one that we're
17:53
doing together. So the BBC, we're doing a
17:55
New Year's Eve show with some my songs
17:58
and special guests, including your lovely self, which
18:00
I'm so happy about, because it's just looking
18:02
forward to it and I'm not really nervous.
18:04
It just feels like playing and fun. So
18:07
that's going to be pretty special and that's
18:09
about an hour's worth of music. So there's
18:11
lots of things happening, lots of prep, but
18:13
it's all coming together. And then when Midnight
18:16
Strikes in New York I'll be in Times
18:18
Square because I'm singing on this show that's
18:20
been running since the 70s called Dick Clark's
18:23
Rock and New Year and it's where the
18:25
ball drops and in Times Square and there's
18:27
like a million people in Times Square and
18:29
three tons of confetti apparently. So I'm looking
18:32
for saying that I'm going to take my
18:34
mom into that. I'm my eldest boy. So
18:36
I think that'll be, for me, that's like
18:38
a champagne cork, like, but I think that
18:41
the New Year's Eve show that we're doing
18:43
is like, just like a real, I think
18:45
it's a bit of a career moment, actually.
18:47
It's just really special. I'm, I feel excited
18:50
about it. Well you deserve it Sophie. You're
18:52
a treasure and we're so thrilled for what's
18:54
happened this year for you with saltburn. It's
18:57
an absolute tune Murder on the Danceville but
18:59
it's been so nice for like a new
19:01
audience to be introduced to you. You did
19:03
your first tour in the States which blows
19:06
my mind that that was your first tour
19:08
in like how long have you been making
19:10
music? I mean I started my first giggers
19:12
when I was 16 which will be 30
19:15
years ago next year. Okay, so so so
19:17
that you you did you did your first
19:19
tour in the States this year You've got
19:21
your own New Year's Eve special on BBC
19:24
One you're now When the ball drops in
19:26
New York, it's just what what's the plan
19:28
for next year? Well, you know what you
19:31
know yourself you get like special things but
19:33
the important thing is to remember it is
19:35
special and actually I think I will have
19:37
another year like this one and that's why
19:40
I've been trying to really drink it in
19:42
and you know I think it's it's good
19:44
to remember like what we do for a
19:46
living is like it's a really twisty little
19:49
road isn't it and sometimes you can find
19:51
extraordinary things happening and you just got to
19:53
really like just enjoy the wonder of it
19:55
because it doesn't happen all the time and
19:58
that's what makes it special. and next year's
20:00
probably going to be like I can't think
20:02
it can't top this year but I would
20:04
love to just have a nice year with
20:07
the new record I've put a lot into
20:09
that so well you know what it's like
20:11
when you're about to release new music I
20:14
think that's that's a big deal to me
20:16
so yeah a new album but but probably
20:18
not touring as much it's been quite and
20:20
honestly like singing with you is going to
20:23
be like another highlight. I can't, I can't
20:25
wait, I'm lucky to be doing. Sophie, have
20:27
you met Mary Keone at all, face to
20:29
face? I have met him, yes. Yes. Did
20:32
he get his willy out? Did he look
20:34
down or did he get high level? It
20:36
was just quite funny because I was, it's
20:38
about a year ago actually, I was going
20:41
to sing the, and they were doing the
20:43
premiere in LA. in the lift, the kind
20:45
of incognito and I thought I just don't
20:48
think now is the time so I had
20:50
to just sit there kind of giggling to
20:52
my staff thinking well wait till we're like
20:54
properly introduced but I could just be like
20:57
hello you're in a trap space with me
20:59
now. I think it's I mean like what
21:01
like extraordinary thing to have yeah that dance
21:03
a big moment yeah quite a big exceptional
21:06
really. Well listen I better go and try
21:08
and try and rest my voice for tomorrow
21:10
but happy Christmas. Yes. Happy New Year. I
21:12
can't wait to see you on everybody's screens
21:15
on New Year's Eve and the whole of
21:17
2025. But thank you, Sophie, for joining us.
21:19
Oh thank you so much.
21:22
a good rest of
21:24
your a It's a lovely
21:26
here, I like it. Sophie has very
21:28
has very good Christmas
21:31
traditions, I Mum. the tree I
21:33
like the tree the end
21:35
of the day the end
21:37
of the day, but
21:40
I don't know how
21:42
that will go down
21:44
with Sam. I just
21:46
love like I like, I
21:49
haven't given them enough.
21:51
I'm gonna give them
21:53
an extra present on
21:56
the tree after the
21:58
full day of Christmas. of
22:00
Christmas. That's the kind of
22:02
of gal, Sophie El Spector
22:05
is. Yeah. Always love chatting to chatting
22:07
to you, Sophie. And
22:09
you can listen to
22:11
Sophie's full episode of
22:14
Table of She joined
22:16
us in Edinburgh for
22:18
the first show of
22:20
our tour back in
22:23
2022. show of our tour it
22:25
was in I think, quite
22:27
was by the end. quite
22:30
do tune in to
22:32
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22:34
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you. Mom,
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what's what's your favourite
23:54
Christmas movie? movie? Elf. Okay.
23:57
It's favorite. my Well,
23:59
don't tell that to
24:01
our next guest,
24:03
please. please. Because I think think
24:06
we might have... new
24:08
favorite in our house is called That
24:10
Christmas. It's on Netflix and it's directed
24:13
by our next guest Richard Curtis. Richard
24:15
and his gorgeous wife Emma Freud joined
24:17
us a couple of years ago on
24:20
the podcast for our comic relief special
24:22
where we had guests join us in
24:24
the kitchen and actually it was like
24:27
the chef from Truelow which was just
24:29
really funny and anyway. I don't remember
24:31
a lot of that episode because I
24:34
was on Tramadorf and I slipped this.
24:36
Do you remember? Well I remember I
24:38
made very dry marbéa chicken actually. Oh
24:41
it's dry marbéa chicken than tramadol. But
24:43
it's been a good year for Richard.
24:45
He won an Oscar, no biggie. So
24:48
Richard, hello, are you going to put
24:50
it in your toilet like Kate Winslet
24:52
does so people can practice their speeches?
24:55
No. And nor do I believe that
24:57
she does. But it's all about mantelpiece.
24:59
It's the first thing people see when
25:02
they come into the house. Actually, it's
25:04
funny how people don't notice it and
25:06
then eventually have to take. By the
25:09
way, look. And my kids are on
25:11
their third watch of that Christmas. It's
25:13
so good. That's so sweet. I'm so
25:16
happy because in the end, it took
25:18
so long to make. It's quite hard
25:20
to sort of remember why... You bothered
25:23
doing it? Yeah, it was like five
25:25
years of work. Is that because it
25:27
was animation? Does that make everything a
25:30
bit harder? Animation just takes forever. But
25:32
I'm so thrilled if people are like
25:34
you, and particularly you, and particularly your
25:37
children. I know it's your mom can
25:39
not be asked to watch it. No,
25:41
I haven't, I didn't know. She actually
25:44
didn't know you had a Christmas film
25:46
out, Richard, because Lenny, what are you
25:48
watching at the moment? No, I'm not
25:51
watching anything, really. because the Alameda. Read
25:53
in, then. Don't know, darling. So sorry,
25:55
Richard. But Richard, it's really brilliant and
25:58
beautiful. I think the characters are gorgeous.
26:00
I wondered whether your gorgeous daughter, Scarlet
26:02
was involved in some of the script,
26:05
because it kind of feels so like
26:07
part of her voice. It's so witty.
26:09
It's really funny. The thing is, we've
26:11
fused into one thing. I simply do
26:14
what she says and think what she
26:16
tells me to think these days. So
26:18
it's difficult to avoid me. Well, it's
26:21
working. And also, my son spiked so
26:23
and turned to me at the end
26:25
and said, Dad, do you have no
26:28
imagination at all? Because it's so close
26:30
to the way that we live up
26:32
in Suffolk that he just thought it
26:35
was like transposition, not actually... So we
26:37
have a Christmas swim, we have a
26:39
barn, we have kids who all meet
26:42
in the barn. It's basically a documentary.
26:44
Yeah, it's an animator. So that's your
26:46
tradition, a Christmas swim. Yeah, and Warbur's
26:49
wing. There is one of the village.
26:51
It's absolutely insane. It's gorgeous. It happens
26:53
at 11 o'clock on the beach and
26:56
most of the village turn up and
26:58
half the village go in, which is
27:00
about 100 people, charge into the sea
27:03
and about 25 seconds later they charge
27:05
out again, get dressed and have a
27:07
glass of mold wine and then go
27:10
off to see their priceless lunches. Emma,
27:12
are you in charge of the mold
27:14
wine? Are you getting in as well?
27:17
Do you know, I do cold swim.
27:19
I go all throughout the year, but
27:21
on Christmas day... I like to not
27:24
because I like showing off my beautiful
27:26
bikini body to my dog and my
27:28
best friend not to that all the
27:31
people in the village that I live
27:33
with I get shy. Of course not.
27:35
So people don't wear wet suit? No.
27:38
That's very much frowned upon. They're hardcore.
27:40
Oh, they're hardcore. So at the moment,
27:42
I think your top. top three in
27:45
Netflix, you're killing it, Richard Kurt. Well,
27:47
I'm very, I'm very pleased because I
27:49
am obsessed by charts. For instance, I
27:52
just wrote down here because it's Christmas,
27:54
just so that you know what a
27:56
sad figure I am. At the moment
27:59
in the UK top 40 singles charts,
28:01
26 of the 40 souls of Christmas
28:03
songs and Wham is number one. Whereas
28:06
in America, 21. of the songs of
28:08
the top 40 of the songs. This
28:10
is the moment when anyone listening who
28:13
might have thought, oh I really wish
28:15
I was going out with Richard Curst,
28:17
he's fantastic, are going thank God. No,
28:20
they're thinking it would be nice going
28:22
out in Richard Curst, because he spends
28:24
a lot of time in his own
28:26
room doing private things on my own.
28:29
this is also innuendo-led private things growing
28:31
as a human being I think I
28:33
think you've just made there's not a
28:36
family podcast I'm afraid Richard Curtis you
28:38
disgusting man oh I know all the
28:40
good I tried to do by writing
28:43
it not a non-swearing Christmas animated film
28:45
was just gone out the window but
28:47
can I think I did yeah my
28:50
family yeah what is it chick we
28:52
had four children and now we got
28:54
a fit Oh wow
28:57
that's a beaut. Anybody that can't
28:59
see what's happening Emma has the
29:01
golden guy the Oscar Mr Oscar
29:03
in and is it is it
29:05
is it hefty is it heavy?
29:07
I've used it as a dumbbell
29:09
and it really works it's eight
29:11
pounds I think. That is quite
29:13
enough of that. That's beautiful. What
29:15
did you do? What did you
29:17
do after, where did you eat
29:19
after winning your Oscar issue? This
29:21
wasn't our finest hour. We had
29:23
a lovely evening. They gave us
29:25
a whole table at the Governor's
29:27
Ball which is where they gave
29:29
the lifetime achievement Oscar in November
29:31
rather than in March. And there
29:33
was food there, but nobody really
29:35
ate the food because they were
29:37
too busy wandering around other tables.
29:39
Yeah. And then at the end
29:41
of it we went off to
29:43
party and there wasn't one. And
29:46
so we went back to our
29:48
hotel and we sat in the
29:50
bar with three people and we
29:52
had chips and balies because we're
29:54
English. That's what you do. We
29:56
had chips and balies for about
29:58
half an hour. and then we
30:00
went to bed and then at
30:02
about two in the morning I
30:04
got a text from Hugh Grant
30:06
who said sorry I couldn't because
30:08
I'd asked him to come to
30:10
our hotel room so I mean
30:12
the hotel lobby sir it really
30:14
felt like we were in Hollywood
30:16
and he said really sorry I
30:18
couldn't come I was at the
30:20
after party. What do you mean
30:22
the other? Did you get an
30:24
NFI? Not fucking invited. Not fucking
30:26
invited. Not fucking invited. That's for
30:28
your family show. That's a liberty.
30:30
They only gave out four Oscars
30:32
and one of the people had
30:34
already died so there was only
30:37
three people they needed to ask.
30:39
It was three guest lists. For
30:41
God's sake. Who is in charge
30:43
of the invitation? They don't care.
30:45
And they don't care. That's the
30:47
point. We're so important. When I
30:49
did my first film called The
30:51
Tall Guy, we had a huge
30:53
party afterwards, and I was surprised
30:55
that I saw so few people
30:57
involved in the production at the
30:59
party. And it was only the
31:01
next day that I was told
31:03
that there'd been a private room
31:05
for people involved in the film.
31:07
And I thought it was all
31:09
that it was just me and
31:11
my mum and... But I will.
31:13
That's not kind. We've never been
31:15
cool. We've never been cool. No,
31:17
no, I'm sorry. You are the
31:19
greatest hosts. I have been privy
31:21
to your hosting. You are fabulous.
31:23
Can you tell us apart from
31:26
the Christmas swim? What is a
31:28
Freud Curtis Christmas tradition? Oh, I'll
31:30
tell you food in a sec,
31:32
but the biggest Christmas tradition is
31:34
we always watch a Christmas film
31:36
and obviously it's elf. So that
31:38
goes down to the other one
31:40
in our house. We haven't seen
31:42
Love actually since the... I get
31:44
text from people saying I'm watching
31:46
Love actually and I show them
31:48
to the family saying, look, this
31:50
is what everyone else is doing,
31:52
but they're not having any of
31:54
that. What's the big Christmas food
31:56
thing? I'm mainly interested in brandy
31:58
butter. and I'll have that with
32:00
turkey. I have it with sprouts
32:02
just anything. Brandy butter. We've got,
32:04
it's a lovely thing this year
32:06
and Jesse you'll get this in
32:08
about 15 years but my middle
32:10
son is 22 and interested in
32:12
cooking and he and I for
32:15
Christmas are cooking together. That's the
32:17
dream isn't it? And we're making
32:19
a porcetta. Because it's so Italian
32:21
in our blood that porkcetta at
32:23
Christmas feels like the nice... tradition
32:25
to be embracing. This sounds really
32:27
lovely and I actually think that
32:29
my middle child who's the baby
32:31
that you held when you did
32:33
the podcast first, he'll be my
32:35
guy that's helping me. You're not
32:37
helping me at all this year.
32:39
I'm doing it. Oh you're doing
32:41
the stuffing? I'm doing the stuff
32:43
remotely helping. I'll do whatever you
32:45
need, Lenny. I would care, darling.
32:47
You know, what I said to
32:49
him was, before we joined you,
32:51
I hope they're getting on better
32:53
than before. And it's a, I'm
32:55
disappointed, but it's still time for
32:57
rebirth, as you know, at Christmas.
32:59
Absolutely. We're going to let you
33:01
go, but Merry Christmas. Thank you
33:03
so much for coming on. It's
33:06
a good show. It's a good
33:08
show. But we can say it's
33:10
strong. It's a beautiful cafe, a
33:12
panitoni, it's the best panitoni in
33:14
Britain. Which panitoni is that? River
33:16
Cafe, it's absolutely... Oh! To be
33:18
honest, we were giving it, but
33:20
I'm now giving it to you.
33:22
I'm regifting my panozoni and we'd
33:24
like you to have it and
33:26
really enjoy it and I'm holding
33:28
it up to the screen now.
33:30
Oh, what a piece you can't
33:32
have it. We'll have it before.
33:34
And congratulations on a marvelous year
33:36
and you are two of my
33:38
role models and I hope by
33:40
this dynamic I'll be wearing glasses
33:42
too. God Richard you are always
33:44
welcome we need to just carry
33:46
on this tradition of being able
33:48
to see each other and congratulations
33:50
on that Christmas because I really
33:52
think it's just it's heaven for
33:55
everybody and I particularly love the
33:57
head teacher. The head teacher was
33:59
based on Yemeni to be honest.
34:01
Thank you. She's not Miss Trunchball.
34:03
I'm trying to think of a
34:05
ferocious old word who used soft
34:07
underneath. Oh and right. And are
34:09
you good at you're not very
34:11
good with snowmen or igloos? I
34:13
don't know I've never tried. Find
34:15
out. For anyone who's who's listening
34:17
who hasn't seen it yet, when
34:19
you watch it, if you every
34:21
time you see the head teacher,
34:23
if you think Rachel Reeves. He's
34:25
also looking pretty much. It's slightly
34:27
Rachel Reeves and also the lady
34:29
that's like Grisowski in in Monsters
34:31
Inc. Yeah. You know the one
34:33
that's like... I never tell those
34:35
two apart anyway. On that note,
34:37
Merry Christmas. Like so much. Lots
34:39
of love. Lots of love. Would
34:41
you go for a cold water
34:43
swim on Christmas Day, Mom? No.
34:46
I can positively tell you I
34:48
would never ever ever do that.
34:50
Get the kids in front of
34:52
Richard's new film whilst you are...
34:54
finishing the turkey. What's the name
34:56
of it again? That Christmas. It's
34:58
really so gorgeous. As opposed to
35:00
last Christmas. Exactly. Now we had
35:02
to invite Tom Adele to our
35:04
Christmas special because he gave one
35:06
of the best gifts we've ever
35:08
received this year. Oh, the chocolates.
35:10
Yes. Oh, you like those? Where
35:12
were they from again, Tom? They
35:14
were from Bruges, weren't they? Yes.
35:16
And they were delicious. That's nice.
35:18
And now, not only have you
35:20
given me the gift of good
35:22
chocolate, of good chocolate. You've also
35:24
given me the wife and her
35:26
wife and her wife and her
35:28
wife and her wife and her
35:30
which is well actually it's being
35:32
exhibited in her exhibition right now
35:35
and yeah big fan of Georgina
35:37
Adele yeah it's absolutely amazing that
35:39
you did that she is so
35:41
thrilled and she encouraged me to
35:43
encourage you to say go and
35:45
have a look at it at
35:47
so her review your wonderful art
35:49
is hanging up there amongst other
35:51
mobiles well it's not I mean
35:53
listen it was something that okay
35:55
let's just so Tom and I
35:57
bumped into each other at the
35:59
Royal Academy summer exhibition because that's
36:01
what we do isn't it Tom
36:03
on our days off we just
36:05
go to you're so cultured darling
36:07
but you had a reason to
36:09
be there because your wife was
36:11
exhibiting in there she was doing
36:13
and and so we met and
36:15
obviously me and you know each
36:17
other and I saw her work
36:19
and she's brilliant and then she
36:21
made me this beautiful mobile for
36:24
my 10-year wedding anniversary which is
36:26
made of aluminium but that is
36:28
Georgina and she's fantastic But on
36:30
to you and Christmas. Are there
36:32
any Adele Christmas traditions? Are there
36:34
any that you and your wife
36:36
are creating together or inheriting from
36:38
each other's families? Oh, that's very
36:40
interesting. I know that Georgie's mom
36:42
likes to make smoked salmon sandwiches,
36:44
which I really like as well,
36:46
on like, you know, like white
36:48
bread, like hovers or something like
36:50
that, which is like a real,
36:52
they're really good. I think it's
36:54
the best bread for so many
36:56
things. I feel like culturally kind
36:58
of being written off a little
37:00
bit in recent times by the
37:02
more the sour dough and other
37:04
types of more boogie hipstery bread.
37:06
The white sliced bread is fab.
37:08
Yeah it's great it may not
37:10
have any wheat in it but
37:12
it's damn tasty. Who cares? It's
37:15
gorgeous and it's the best toast
37:17
in my humble opinion. Yeah I
37:19
agree for baked beans don't you
37:21
think? Yes for bait. Yeah, or
37:23
Vegemite, which is also a great,
37:25
great condiment. Is it your wife
37:27
that's vegetarian? No, we're both, we're
37:29
both pestitarian. Oh, so you're having
37:31
fish for Christmas. Yeah, well, we'll
37:33
have fish for Christmas, which is
37:35
a great, great thing, you know,
37:37
works well with roast potatoes and
37:39
vegetables. Which is your favorite fish,
37:41
Tom? Probably is, like, like, sea
37:43
bass or salmon. I actually quite
37:45
like monkfish as well, but like
37:47
Georgie doesn't really like monkfish, but
37:49
I like it. It's really nice.
37:51
I made very nice salmon oncris.
37:53
the other day so good and
37:55
it was great for his celebration.
37:57
Samuel crew I think might be
37:59
my favorite food yeah it's so
38:01
good you've you're at the premises
38:04
which is a kind of institution
38:06
for people rehearse is the rehearsal
38:08
recording studios in East London so
38:10
what are you rehearsing for Tom
38:12
something very spectacular I think well
38:14
I do have a show in
38:16
yeah in Sydney in you have
38:18
to Yeah too. I feel like
38:20
you played lots in Australia Jesse.
38:22
I have not and I love
38:24
Australia and we have loads of
38:26
Australian listeners. I've been there twice
38:28
in my life and I love
38:30
performing there. I love the food
38:32
and all of it. Do you
38:34
enjoy being there? You know I've
38:36
not a bit like yourself like
38:38
I haven't really spent that much
38:40
time I think I've probably been
38:42
two or three times and always
38:44
absolutely loved it. Like I have
38:46
some family who live in Melbourne
38:48
as well so like looking forward
38:50
to seeing them but like... Yeah
38:53
just looking forward to some sunshine
38:55
as well not to make everyone
38:57
jealous but it should be nice.
38:59
Yeah yeah yeah yeah it should
39:01
be good. Will you do like
39:03
a wine tour? Will you do
39:05
some eating and drink? I've got
39:07
really good Melbourne recommendations actually. Oh
39:09
really great I have to get
39:11
some of that. You're playing in
39:13
Sydney though so we're going up
39:15
to Byron we're going up to
39:17
Byron we have some friends up
39:19
there in in Byron which is
39:21
meant to be really nice kind
39:23
of... beachy place so that would
39:25
be fun I'm looking forward to
39:27
that but yeah I don't really
39:29
know it that well so it's
39:31
like a bit stepping into the
39:33
unlike you know like playing in
39:35
Germany or or Belgian of course
39:37
I'm not really that familiar with
39:39
it so it's kind of I'm
39:41
excited to take a look around
39:44
you know have you finished your
39:46
Christmas shopping Tom? I haven't started
39:48
my Christmas shopping yet so are
39:50
you all on Christmas Eve bloke?
39:52
to defend the sort of lazy,
39:54
unthoughtful and reflective man. But I
39:56
do think that shopping on Christmas
39:58
Eve is actually really magical. Yeah,
40:00
please sell it to us. It's
40:03
really Christmas-y and Not stressful. Yeah,
40:05
and you could do it if
40:07
you've got to go all day
40:09
You can go all day, but
40:11
yeah, it's probably not the most
40:13
ideal thing But no, I definitely
40:15
gonna go this week into town,
40:17
but although I've gone into town
40:19
quite a bit over the last
40:21
two or three weeks just for
40:23
various things It's just like gridlocked.
40:25
Yeah, you can't move in central
40:28
London Yeah And also, we, George
40:30
and I, we have our birthdays
40:32
right next to each other and
40:34
we had our wedding anniversary. So
40:36
it's like too quite intense. This
40:38
was like three weeks ago. So
40:40
it was two really intense, like
40:42
shopping trips, like, you know, those
40:44
are two really intense things you
40:46
have to buy for. And so
40:48
I'm kind of like, you know,
40:50
Christmas is kind of in the
40:52
shadows. What did you do for
40:55
paper anniversary? I wrote a really
40:57
long letter. She got me two
40:59
really nice pens with an inscription
41:01
on it which I really like
41:03
having pens I do I like
41:05
writing on paper like with you
41:07
know handwriting I like doing that
41:09
so on paper yeah and we
41:11
really enjoy doing that it's really
41:13
um calming what is the Best
41:15
and worst Christmas present that you
41:17
have given or received? For a
41:20
little while I used to buy
41:22
my sister the most annoying present
41:24
I could find. I once got
41:26
her a trampoline. How old was
41:28
she? Which she really didn't want.
41:30
And then I got her like
41:32
a giant virgin Mary from like
41:34
a stone virgin Mary. And then
41:36
also got her a few virgin
41:38
Marys actually. which she really doesn't
41:40
like and gets kind of annoyed
41:42
about it. What did she do
41:45
with them? Well she had quite
41:47
a few virgin marries in her
41:49
garden. Good luck. trying to find
41:51
a Virgin Mary on Christmas Eve.
41:53
So yeah that's a bit bit
41:55
weird but I don't this is
41:57
more like when I was a
41:59
bit younger I don't buy her
42:01
with presents anymore. I guess it
42:03
used to be slightly funny. Tom,
42:05
thank you so much for joining
42:07
us on our Christmas special. Go
42:10
and eat some lunch. Yes. Go
42:12
and do some Christmas shopping. And
42:14
good luck in Australia in January.
42:16
I'm very jealous. If you need
42:18
me to do a duet with
42:20
you, I would be very happy
42:22
to fly out there and eat
42:24
and drink some wine with you.
42:26
Come on over. Okay, perfect. Let's
42:28
just chat about this. Offair. We'll
42:30
make something happen. Oh, great. Yeah.
42:32
Nice to see you both. Happy
42:35
Christmas. And thanks for another great
42:37
year of your podcasts. I appreciate
42:39
them. Never stop. Tom Adele, you're
42:41
a gorgeous man and I wish
42:43
I was jetting off to Australia
42:45
in January too. Our next guest
42:47
is jetting off somewhere but maybe
42:49
not quite as far flung as
42:51
Tom. It's Nadine Coyle. Where are
42:53
you Nadine? You're on the move.
42:55
I'm on the move. Yes, and
42:57
this is a last month of
43:00
flight. Do you know one of
43:02
those? I got maybe pack up
43:04
like run like the one. Where
43:06
are you going? I am going
43:08
to Heathrow for a holiday. Well
43:10
just a little quatrip, just a
43:12
little quack pre-Christmas trip. Hot cold.
43:14
Cold. Okay. Ireland is always cold.
43:16
Oh you're going to Ireland. Yeah.
43:18
Right. What is a Nadine Christmas
43:20
special meal? Like what what what's
43:22
something that you're always going to
43:24
have on the table on Christmas
43:27
day? I start the clippant for
43:29
the sides on Christmas Eve. So
43:31
I will do this Christmas, able
43:33
to do all the stuffing and
43:35
cauliflower cheese. And then we've started
43:37
doing the, you know, the American
43:39
sweet potato with the marshmallows on
43:41
the top of Thanksgiving dish. So
43:43
we started that last year. Yeah,
43:45
and it was a baget. So
43:47
it's been requested again this year.
43:49
That's a good idea. So that's
43:52
kind of my thing besides turkey?
43:54
Of course. My mom does that.
43:56
My mom does the turkey and
43:58
she'll do like the potatoes and
44:00
we're in Ireland so there's multiple
44:02
kinds. We have mashed, we have
44:04
roasted. Are you going to be
44:06
an island then? Yes, I'm going
44:08
to be in Ireland for Christmas.
44:10
What's some of your Christmas traditions
44:12
that like, you know, apart from
44:14
the cooking, is there any traditions
44:17
that your household has? There's quite
44:19
a few of us. So we've
44:21
been through the phases of my
44:23
sisters, her kids, girl one off,
44:25
getting everything organized for Santa. We've
44:27
got this bear part. I don't
44:29
know if we spoke about it
44:31
the last time we met, but
44:33
there is some grisly bears that
44:35
the sanctuary. It's not too far
44:37
away in Donegal. No, we did
44:39
not talk about grossly bears. We
44:42
didn't talk about that. Okay, so
44:44
we do this thing. We're a
44:46
few days before Christmas. They do
44:48
this lovely Santa thing and you
44:50
walk around and every year I
44:52
think it's a great idea. I'm
44:54
like, let's go. And then we
44:56
get there and I think what
44:58
are we doing walking around with
45:00
Wesley Bears? I feel like we're
45:02
in Jurassic Park. I'm like, we'll
45:04
non to everybody. So that's a
45:07
thing we started. I think I
45:09
started it. I started it and
45:11
then I'm like, what was I.
45:13
What was I think? And so
45:15
we'll probably have to do that
45:17
again as well. What's on your
45:19
Christmas playlist? Do you know, Anaya?
45:21
My little girl made one. She
45:23
made a Christmas playlist. And she
45:25
came on the other day and
45:27
she had her iPad on her
45:29
shoulder, you know, like a boom
45:32
box. And she came like walking
45:34
on the plan or a new
45:36
Christmas playlist. It's all the classic.
45:38
Just all of your classic Christmas
45:40
songs. Nothing, nothing wide or alternative.
45:42
And are you drinking wine or
45:44
Guinness and balies? We're drinking slur.
45:46
See the slur? Slur. Oh yeah,
45:48
like schlur. Slur. The non-alcoholic. the
45:50
non-alcoholic slur. Which, which flavor? So
45:52
we we used
45:54
to think we're
45:56
being really clever.
45:59
So if you
46:01
mix the white
46:03
and the red
46:05
and you make
46:07
your own white and the
46:09
red and you make your own rosé.
46:11
So that again, the
46:13
one the year that
46:15
year that you to slur. So it's
46:17
a tea Christmas. Christmas. Well for
46:19
the afternoon, know, the day day
46:21
gets on. Yeah, I'm sure. Are you you
46:24
a Christmas lunch or Christmas
46:26
dinner? We're more of a of
46:28
a Christmas dinner. dinner. We We usually do
46:30
a a breakfast My mom
46:32
will do, and she'll make will
46:34
do and she'll make stuff, and
46:36
stuff. a smoked and do like
46:38
a small of some kind
46:40
of you bagel, you know muffin
46:43
vives, and eggs and some sausages. some
46:45
sausages. So you're never really
46:47
hungry. at lunchtime.
46:49
So it of, when everybody starts to
46:51
gather, kind of aim for moving. gather, we
46:54
kind 5. for maybe four or
46:56
five. later on. thank you thank
46:58
you for joining us. he hope
47:00
Heathrow isn't And on Earth. Christmas.
47:02
You know, I am Christmas. a lot, but
47:04
just perfect. Go on on Christmas. And congratulations
47:06
on an amazing, amazing year. Yeah.
47:09
It was was such a joy
47:11
to see the girls And I
47:13
I think maybe 2025 we should
47:15
should do a few more
47:17
performances please. Yes please. Please. Yes, please.
47:19
Yeah. Oh, well, well, we'll Thank you
47:21
so, so much for what Thank
47:23
you so much for all. That's
47:26
That's Nadine dashing off to the
47:28
airport with with signal. I love
47:30
you love you you're completely bonkers.
47:32
So nice to hear to some
47:34
of our alumni. of our alumni. I hope
47:36
you've enjoyed our Christmas our Christmas
47:38
got you through the stress of
47:40
getting the Christmas dinner getting the Christmas
47:42
dinner whilst wrapping those last -minute
47:44
presents. We'll be back next week,
47:46
presents. We'll be back next for listening. Christmas
47:49
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47:52
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