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1:06

Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie

1:08

Ware and I'm here with Lenny and

1:10

we're in New Cross. Yes, darling.

1:13

I've had two 40th's within the space

1:15

of two, no, three days. I'm

1:18

a bit tired. Oh, then

1:20

we had a birthday party. Has anyone ever been

1:22

to the O2 Oxygen

1:25

Extreme Trampolining? No, I haven't. Avoid it

1:27

at all costs unless you need to

1:29

go. It was fabulous for an eight-year-old

1:32

birthday party. And do not believe the

1:34

parking guy that I spoke to who

1:36

told me it was only a three-minute walk from the car park.

1:39

At least 10 minutes to get across the

1:41

courtyard at my pace. You hobbling along

1:43

with your horse chocolate cake. My

1:45

chocolate cake with horses on. I'm

1:48

on cooking duty today. I did share that

1:50

recipe with you and I was regretting it.

1:53

I was kind of regretting it because it was

1:55

a good recipe. Why? Because I could

1:58

have used it for someone. You... showed

2:00

me the Nigel Slater chicken

2:03

and peach salad. It's

2:06

meant to be on a really hot summer's

2:08

day. It is not

2:10

a hot summer's day, it's quite

2:12

miserable. However, I do have the

2:14

most delicious Natura peaches that I

2:16

bought and... We'll cheer everyone up

2:18

and rhyme. Maybe, unless he's one

2:20

of those people that doesn't like

2:22

fruit with savoury. Well, we'll find

2:25

out. And then I've done a

2:27

Nigella's chocolate olive oil mousse. And

2:29

have you used the special olive oil? I

2:32

used the special olive oil. Rosie and

2:34

James' olive oil. From Scopolos that we

2:36

brought back, that he, I don't know,

2:38

strained with his deer hands. No, he didn't.

2:40

He picked the olives from his land. Yeah.

2:42

And they took it up to the Olivia

2:45

where they press the olives and then you

2:47

bring it home. And this year... That sounds

2:49

so fun. He's got it such from November,

2:51

it's going to be a bumper season because

2:53

there is a... He's got a hundred olive

2:55

trees at his new place. It's

2:57

really nice olive oil. So he's going to have

2:59

over a hundred litres of olive oil. Well, I'm

3:01

very thrilled to have it in the Nigella Lawson

3:03

chocolate olive oil mousse. We have

3:06

a comedian, writer,

3:08

activist, anglophile,

3:11

American coming over. Very handsome.

3:13

Very handsome. Very handsome. But

3:16

very talented. Yeah. I wonder if

3:18

Scott or Miss Starsh. I saw

3:21

him. I don't know if it's going

3:23

to sound creepy. When I was filming that Momma Mia

3:25

show, I think we flew back from

3:27

Corfu at the same time. And

3:30

he was very, very dashing. We've

3:32

got Rob Delaney coming over. Now,

3:34

Rob is an American who lives

3:36

in London, who created and starred

3:38

in Catastrophe, which we all loved

3:41

with Sharon Horgan. He's been

3:43

in Deadpool. He's coming on to talk about

3:45

his new Apple TV show that he stars

3:47

in called Bad Monkey, which I've been watching.

3:49

And I've watched one episode. It's one of

3:51

our favourite writers that we used to always

3:54

read in the summer. Come on, Hyacinth. It's

3:56

set in Florida. He'll be telling you more.

3:58

It's dark Also,

4:00

it's setting the Bahamas and the Florida Keys

4:02

and it just makes me want to go

4:04

there straight away. I've just put the

4:07

chicken in. It's going to be one of those things where

4:09

I will be in the background making

4:11

a dressing and assembling so you

4:13

may have to take over for a bit Lenny. Oh

4:15

okay. Are you willing? I'll just look at

4:17

him darling. Okay. Rob

4:20

Delaney coming up on Tablemans. Welcome

4:31

Rob to Jesse Hoe. I'm

4:34

hearing her, she's doing the voice where

4:36

I know she's trying to impress you. I am. She's

4:38

doing Radio 4 voice. Oh

4:41

I love it. Okay. You really are. First

4:44

of all, watched about five

4:46

episodes of Bad Monkey. How many

4:48

episodes are there? Ten. Oh

4:50

crikey. And then it was because I

4:52

wondered where you were at the beginning

4:54

and now you're coming into your own.

4:56

Yeah. Mustache and all. Mustache and all,

4:59

yeah. Did you film it all in the

5:01

Bahamas in the Keys? We filmed in

5:03

Miami in the Keys. So

5:05

any Bahamas that you see is you know

5:07

somewhere in Florida. It's not under just in

5:10

Bahamas. I'm pretty sure. I'm sure there's some

5:12

like aerial shots and stuff that are legitimately

5:14

there but actors, you

5:17

know what I could be wrong.

5:19

They might have gone to Andros.

5:21

I didn't. I filmed strictly in

5:23

Miami and primarily marathon in the

5:25

Keys. It's gorgeous. Isn't it? God

5:28

I couldn't actually go on holiday and

5:30

move there. It's absolutely beautiful. Did you

5:32

think about a family holiday after filming

5:35

a Carl Hyacinth? Right. Where anything could

5:37

go in part? I brought my

5:39

then three or four

5:41

year old. Three. He was

5:43

three. Okay. So he was with me for a

5:46

little bit and that was quite fun because

5:48

if ever we had a day off, you know,

5:50

we would go to the Everglades. Did

5:53

you see any crocodiles? We didn't see

5:55

any crocodiles but we saw I'm sure over 400. alligators.

6:00

Oh, okay, sorry. But there are crocodiles

6:02

there. They're both there. Miami's the only

6:04

place in the world where they both

6:06

live. So there's lots of ways to

6:08

get eaten. Am I being stupid? But

6:10

why are the alligators evergays, but not

6:12

crocodiles? It's alligators that are in

6:15

the Everglades. And then in Miami,

6:17

there are some saltwater crocodiles. Why

6:20

is that? I don't know. And I believe it's the

6:22

only place in the world where they both live. And

6:25

but you'd have to talk to them about why

6:27

they've chosen to... Did you some meet the monkey?

6:30

I don't think he did. He met a lot of

6:32

key deer though, the little tiny deer that run

6:34

around. Oh, the deer that run around. That's

6:36

Vintful. So that was fun. Is he as

6:38

fun as he seems? He really genuinely

6:40

is. Yeah, he's exactly like he is in

6:42

movies and TV and stuff, you know, whereas

6:45

I'm not. You know, I can... People are

6:47

like, do you ever turn it off? I'm

6:49

like, I turn it off all the time.

6:51

Whereas Vintful, like if you were at a restaurant

6:54

with him, like he would introduce himself to the

6:56

people at the next tables and stuff when he

6:58

talks to you, he asks you

7:00

a thousand questions, he would know stuff about you

7:02

that you had forgotten. And

7:05

so he's a pretty fascinating guy. Mum

7:07

used to always bring a Karl Hyacim. Is

7:09

that how you say it? Yeah. Yeah, it's

7:11

at Hyacim. I don't know. Karl Hyacim. We'd

7:13

always have one in the summer that we'd

7:15

go through as a family. Did

7:17

you read any Karl before? I'm

7:20

ashamed to admit, but I want to pursue the policy

7:22

of truth here. I've only read Bad Monkey. I

7:25

must read more. How silly of me. Yeah.

7:27

But they're usually set in Miami. Yeah,

7:30

it's usually... Not the same shit that

7:32

happens, but it's usually very

7:34

funny in Florida. Dark

7:36

comedy. And someone's going to lose

7:38

something. Yeah. They're great. I mean,

7:41

they are great. It kind of feels

7:43

like, I don't know whether they've made any more

7:45

telly of Karl Hyacim books, but like, it feels

7:47

like a no brainer that now you'd be able

7:49

to like, just keep going. Like Agatha Christie, sure.

7:51

Right. I think maybe now that they've cracked

7:53

it, because yeah, you know, Bill

7:56

Lawrence did such a good job because he wasn't just like,

7:58

let me take this IP. alternative to something

8:00

like he's from Florida too he loves Carl

8:02

Hyasson and he for him it was a

8:04

real labor of love to turn a great

8:07

book into a great TV show so he

8:09

worked very hard on it for a long

8:11

time. Where do you live now? You

8:13

live in London? I do yeah I live in London yeah

8:15

I've been here ten years I'm literally

8:18

British now. Are you here because of the

8:20

food? Absolutely not no although I

8:22

like the food. It's not bad. Where

8:25

are you from? I

8:28

grew up in Boston, Massachusetts. It's fine. Good

8:31

chowder. Yeah but

8:33

yeah moved here ten years ago for the show Catastrophe. Which

8:35

we love. I actually went

8:37

up to Sharon Horgan once at an awards thing and

8:39

I said I just want to I

8:41

don't know why this came out but you know you like you

8:44

shoot your shot it's like you've seen her and

8:46

I don't know why I think I was nervous

8:48

I hate award shows anyway I just want to

8:50

thank you for making me feel like it's okay

8:52

to not have sex with my husband and she

8:55

went okay cool nice to meet you. You

8:57

know that's the shit that came out. What

8:59

is that come out? I think they were having a

9:01

hard time in the show at that time. I

9:04

feel like everyone's had those catastrophe moments

9:06

when they've had children that episode where

9:08

she's trying to make friends with somebody

9:10

and being really keen and it's so

9:12

cringe and I've been that person in like

9:14

a baby music class that's brilliant it's amazing.

9:17

How did you and Sharon meet each other?

9:19

We met on twitter.com years

9:22

ago so I had seen her show Pulling which

9:24

I was crazy about so I noticed that she

9:26

followed me on Twitter and I was like I

9:28

love your show. You slid in. Yeah

9:31

and she said seen some of my stand

9:33

up and so we became friends and when

9:35

either of us were in London or LA

9:37

respectively we would visit each other and

9:39

became friendly and then we thought hey why don't we

9:42

write a pilot together you know. And the rest is

9:44

history. Yeah the show is history

9:46

since it was 10 years

9:48

ago almost. Can I ask in Boston

9:50

who was around the dinner table when you were

9:52

growing up and what was a memorable dish from

9:54

your childhood? Um my

9:57

dad made a great meatloaf. But

10:01

I don't know why that came to mind first. I think

10:03

as he chopped up apples and put it in it so

10:05

it stayed nice and moist. My

10:07

mom was a very good, like

10:09

her plates definitely

10:13

always ticked all the food pyramid boxes. You know

10:15

what I mean? They'd be like a nice piece

10:17

of fish, some nice vegetables, some

10:19

nice rice pilaf. So

10:23

nobody in my house was like a passionate

10:25

cook, but they definitely dependably,

10:27

nutriciously fed you.

10:30

Did they work? Yeah, yeah,

10:32

they both worked. They were insurance agents. They

10:35

owned a small insurance agency together. They got

10:37

divorced when I was 14. So,

10:40

you know, the bulk of my childhood, they were

10:42

together and we were eating dinner together every night.

10:45

And then I guess once I got to high

10:47

school, then it was a little different, but yeah,

10:49

still tasty dishes and you know, and

10:52

family mealtime, thank goodness,

10:54

has remained a priority for

10:56

my wife and I. We make sure to always eat

10:58

dinner with the kids. And one wonderful thing about us

11:00

is we don't, if like the kids are like, we

11:02

don't like this, we're like, all right, starve. We don't

11:05

make them other stuff, you know, like, oh, see me

11:07

gets his chicken binkies, you know, like we don't do

11:09

that. We're like, oh, go to bed, everybody don't care.

11:11

Yeah, which is, but it's that love. But

11:13

you don't do the banana late or

11:16

the bowl of cereal later. Come

11:18

on, yeah, of course you do. You do the banana.

11:20

Yeah, well, yeah. You're really mean. It's nutritious. I

11:23

am mean, yeah. Well, because I love them.

11:25

Well, you're a full mom because you literally

11:27

remind Mrs. Womble the waitress and doing one-on-one.

11:30

This is like, yeah. I'll do anything. Well,

11:32

also, Jessie, is she nicer to your kids

11:35

than she was to you? You know what I mean? Because like, no,

11:37

you don't have to. I was a soft touch with you as

11:39

well. I mean, there was a lot of shouting though, Rob,

11:41

if we're gonna talk about it. Yeah, I, yeah, okay. There

11:43

was a lot of shouting. Yeah, you think that's traumatized you?

11:45

Yeah, I do. Because I know like my mom, you know,

11:48

when I was, if I was like, can I, you didn't

11:50

eat enough, can I actually be like, you know, too bad.

11:52

With my kids, she's like, yeah, sure. Have a Snickers bar.

11:55

Would you want me to spoon feed you? Or come

11:57

upstairs, I've got Percy Picks in the bedroom.

11:59

Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like mom's got a stash.

12:02

Oh, you can't go to bed without a

12:04

full swollen belly. You can't go to bed

12:06

not sweating because you've eaten too much. Yeah,

12:08

you completely, and you always undermine

12:11

me as well. If we're gonna talk about this

12:13

now, like, you undermine me. But

12:15

that's what my mom's supposed to do. No,

12:17

but you go, oh God, what? She's been

12:19

such a good girl. Girl, just let

12:21

her have a cake. Of

12:23

course. Yeah, no. Why not? She's

12:26

perfect. I can't

12:28

wait to have grandkids, I swear to God. Like

12:30

if one of my kids, I mean, obviously, if

12:32

you're listening kids, don't do this, but if one

12:34

of my kids is like, I got my girlfriend

12:36

pregnant, and then we'd

12:38

have to like fake being upset. We'd be like,

12:40

oh, oh gosh, mm. You know, but totally we'd

12:43

be like, give me the baby. Give me it.

12:45

Oh my goodness. Oh my God. You're ready for

12:47

it. I just love babies. Yeah,

12:50

do you think you'll be lenient when? With

12:52

grandkids? Yeah. I'll try not to be.

12:55

I kind of like observe my parents and my wife's

12:57

parents, and they're like, okay, yeah, I'll do that when

12:59

I'm a grandparent. Not gonna do that. Yes, do this,

13:02

do that. Okay, what are you gonna do? One thing

13:04

that you are gonna do that you've observed, and one

13:06

thing that you're not gonna do. Well, get in there.

13:08

Get on those kids. Get those kids on your lap.

13:10

Touch them, get in their faces, make eye contact. You

13:13

know what I mean? Be super, don't be un-ignorable as

13:15

their grandparent. Because they love that. They love to have

13:17

you get right in their face, and

13:19

play with you, and they can just tell that

13:22

you're related to them, and that you

13:24

share blood, and that, you know, just

13:27

so definitely sit on them, make

13:30

them sit on you. Oh, got it. Tickle them, that

13:32

type of stuff. I heard tickling's

13:34

not really supposed to be a loud thing now. I

13:37

don't care. I tickle my, it's too fun. Yeah,

13:39

I mean, we'll be tickling each other, I'm sure, by the end of this. Yeah,

13:42

tickling's fine. I just, yeah, stop me. Arrest

13:44

me for tickling. This can sound a bit

13:46

stalkery. Great. I think I saw you in

13:48

a Corfu airport last year. Oh, wow. Would

13:51

that have been right? Yeah, we did go to Corfu

13:53

last year. Funny thing about Corfu

13:55

is many years ago, my wife and

13:57

I went to Hawaii, and I was,

13:59

It was like heaven on earth. And I

14:02

was like, this is just too nice. I

14:04

can't handle it. It was Kauai, the like

14:07

rainforest island. It was rainbows

14:09

and beautiful sea turtles and

14:11

waterfalls and can't, and I was like, it's

14:14

too nice, I can't relax. But you are

14:16

like a Brit. Yeah, and then I went

14:18

to Corfu and it was like, it's not

14:20

as majestic as Hawaii. And

14:22

I was like, this is it perfect.

14:25

Like this is just perfect.

14:27

Because like the rocks are old, you know,

14:29

the trees are like kind of gnarly. People

14:31

can be rude and say how they, like,

14:34

and that's perfect. Yeah, but like you just,

14:36

every day, I just have two gigantic salads

14:38

with, you know, tomatoes and feta and everything,

14:40

and then swim in the ocean and. There's

14:43

no way I like Greece. Do

14:46

you go every year to Greece or Corfu?

14:48

Not every year, but Corfu, I mean, and

14:50

then you think it's less than three hours.

14:52

Did you eat well in Miami? Because I

14:54

hear the food scene's incredible there. How are

14:56

you a foodie? Am I a foodie? I

14:58

would say probably no. Like

15:02

I don't do like destination

15:04

food, seek out things and

15:06

stuff, but I love

15:09

good food, but I also love

15:11

garbage. So I

15:13

eat it all. Like I love fruits

15:15

and vegetables. I love to eat healthy.

15:17

And I also love to eat, just

15:19

scrape the bin. So yeah, and

15:22

also I did an interesting thing out of

15:25

vanity about a year ago. I

15:28

had, you know, my weight would bounce back

15:30

and forth and I was always like, I

15:32

should weigh less. I have weighed less. I

15:35

could weigh less, you know, whatever. So

15:37

I stopped eating flour and sugar. Don't

15:40

worry if there's flour and sugar today, I'll eat it all. But

15:43

I did that and that's been really interesting. And

15:45

I also did a huge

15:47

thing. I stopped eating second and third

15:49

dinners because late night eating, that

15:52

was my enemy, you know. I had to

15:54

be tall. There's a lot to fill. There's

15:56

a lot to fill, but I figured, you

15:58

know, like I'm pushing 50. I

16:00

like my children. I like my wife. I'd like

16:02

to be around like let maybe if I could

16:04

dial down the Guarantee of some

16:07

sort of cardiac event. Why not? Anyway,

16:10

so in Miami though, we filmed this

16:12

two years ago. So I was just

16:14

eating constants incredible seafood one time

16:16

I went fishing in the Gulf of Mexico off of marathon

16:20

and The guy who took me fishing was like

16:22

if you're not getting a bite like every 40 seconds

16:26

Something's wrong and it was true

16:28

caught so much snapper and

16:30

and then also key lime pie

16:34

So I had key lime pie at every possible opportunity Yeah,

16:39

so that was great He's

16:42

a food inspector, yeah kind of put

16:45

me I thought it's sick. Yeah, cuz

16:47

he's inspecting some of the Restaurants,

16:50

so he's gone off food So

16:53

he stops eating for a while because

16:55

everywhere he goes he sees what's going on behind

16:57

the scenes And it wouldn't that be a terrible

16:59

job to have It

17:04

was funny But then he when he

17:07

was some guy was eating the shrimp

17:09

and he was saying that's probably rats

17:11

have peed on that or something Oh,

17:13

yeah, you know what? I actually got

17:15

poisoned by oysters last year And

17:18

it was honestly it was

17:20

awful for a few days But now

17:22

there's a relief because now I don't

17:24

have to eat oysters ever again because

17:26

I'm never I'm never like craving oysters

17:28

It's always like a thing you do.

17:30

Why did you eat the experience is

17:33

fun? For that

17:35

reason cuz I don't not

17:37

like them But also I don't need

17:39

them But now I never ever have

17:41

to even deal with them again because

17:43

now I know that they can poison

17:45

me It was kind of fun actually

17:47

because in addition to horrific nausea There

17:50

was also cramping from the poison so I

17:52

would like seize up and that was Did

17:57

you end up in hospital I didn't I

18:00

once ended up in the hospital

18:02

with food poisoning from a 30th

18:04

birthday party, uncooked kidney beans and

18:06

a big fat of chili. Unless

18:08

you cook kidney beans really thoroughly,

18:10

there's a poison in them. There

18:13

were 20 people that were ill, including

18:15

the man. But I ended up in

18:17

hospital and I'd only been married two

18:19

months to your dad. I felt slightly

18:21

embarrassed. I'd never been sick in front

18:23

of him before. And I had to stop the

18:26

calling vomit. Why would I

18:28

have been sick? I don't know. This feels very

18:30

on Chazal Beach, doesn't it? It's so odd. You're

18:33

just getting to know each other. You're vomiting. You're about to

18:35

shit in front of me. I mean, they had to inject

18:37

me. I couldn't do... Okay, well, here, I've

18:39

got a better foodborne illness story. Okay. This

18:42

one's great. I won't go into graphic detail.

18:44

I'll let you use your imagination. But I

18:46

got hepatitis A 20 years... 19

18:48

years ago? 14 years

18:50

ago. No, 14 years ago. Well, this was

18:52

the most amazing part is I got

18:55

hepatitis and the way that my wife noticed

18:57

something that was wrong. She's like, honey, your

18:59

eyes are yellow. And

19:02

so is your skin. And I was

19:04

like, well, that's strange color for me to be. And

19:07

so went to the hospital. How long ago was this?

19:10

This would be 14 years ago. So

19:12

you go to the doctor, right? When they find out

19:14

you have hepatitis, they don't be like, well, here's what

19:16

you do. The first thing they do is they call

19:18

the government. We've got hepatitis. Oh, it's

19:21

a public health warning. So, yeah. So,

19:23

then noticed a few other people at my work had

19:25

it. Still, they're trying to figure out

19:27

what it was. And

19:29

so they interview you, health and

19:31

safety people, and they're really

19:33

good at it. They're like FBI profilers.

19:36

So if I asked you like, hey, what'd you have for breakfast last

19:38

Tuesday? If you asked me, I'd be like, I have no

19:40

idea. They can put you in the mind

19:42

space. They ask you different questions, similar ways.

19:44

Many times they do face to face for

19:47

a while. Then they call you on the

19:49

phone and they just get inside of you.

19:51

By the end, you're like can rattle off what you ate and

19:54

where and who you're with. Anyway, they

19:56

narrowed it down. There was a cake shop,

19:58

a really nice one in Santa. Monica,

20:00

California that had strawberries on this one

20:02

cake and the water that they had

20:04

been irrigated with had been contaminated. So

20:07

a bunch of people got hepatitis. That

20:09

is shocking. Yeah. That is shocking. I

20:11

know, it was wild. And hepatitis is

20:14

a fascinating illness because your liver kind

20:16

of takes a break. So

20:18

what did you have to do to treat it?

20:21

Hang out, it just takes a while to

20:23

go away. It's months isn't it? It was

20:25

about, I was sick for about three weeks.

20:27

Three weeks? Yeah. But hepatitis A you

20:30

get rid of. B and C can

20:32

kill you. A is sort of a

20:34

Cadillac of, or jaguars. Do

20:37

you have to put that down if

20:39

you've ever had it? No, because once

20:41

it's gone. So like I can give

20:43

blood. And could you have given it

20:45

to your family? Yes, my wife was

20:47

pregnant with our first child at that

20:49

time. So it was really scary. We

20:51

were very worried. If you kissed her,

20:53

she might have brought it. Well, we

20:55

don't kiss. So we were safe with

20:57

that. But no, she had to get

20:59

a shot to give her immunity. And

21:02

so a bunch of the loved ones of the

21:04

people who got sick. And some of us, I

21:06

was not, but some people were hospitalized. It

21:09

was heavy duty. Would you ever live back

21:11

in Los Angeles? I don't

21:14

know what would bring me there. You know,

21:16

my kids are ultra plugged in here. Are

21:18

they British children, really? Well, yeah, they, I

21:20

mean, the older two have totally grown up

21:22

here. The youngest one was born here. So

21:26

they don't want to leave. And now they're

21:28

old enough where we have to like factor

21:30

in how they like feel and they care

21:32

about, you know. So lately I've been lamenting

21:35

that my career didn't take me to New

21:37

York, which is halfway between North Carolina and

21:39

Boston where my wife and my family are.

21:42

But it didn't. So we're here and I

21:44

don't know what

21:46

could take us away from here. I

21:49

do my best to do most of stuff

21:52

that I film here. Anything I write is

21:54

always like exterior North London, very close to

21:56

my house. You know what I mean? So

21:59

I do. that I say no to stuff

22:01

that shoots far away sometimes I didn't to

22:03

Bad Monkey but I really

22:06

try to stick around and that's not impossible

22:08

because a lot of great stuff shoots here

22:10

I mean I just did Deadpool and Wolverine

22:12

that filmed here you know and more

22:15

and more big stuff is filming here which is

22:17

so awesome so you love London

22:20

mostly no mostly tell

22:22

me what you love about it people we've

22:25

made wonderful friends I love

22:27

the NHS even in its

22:29

underfunded state it is better to

22:32

fall down a break your leg here than it is in

22:34

America because all you have to

22:36

worry about is whatever injury or illness you have not

22:38

you know am I gonna be able to afford it

22:40

am I going to go broke you know trying to

22:42

pay for it and because even if

22:44

you have a private health insurance in America it

22:46

doesn't cover it all so people go into medical

22:49

debt people commit suicide from medical debt in

22:51

America so that's horrific

22:53

so the NHS even

22:55

as it is now is is amazing especially

22:57

having a family you know and boys I

22:59

mean we're at the A&E all the time

23:02

how many broken limbs have

23:04

you had broken like

23:06

with boys I'm just preparing

23:08

for this yeah I mean cuts

23:10

cuts okay breaks but not too

23:13

many okay big bad okay so

23:15

there's that and then there's no

23:17

guns here that's incredible you know

23:20

because there sure are guns in

23:22

America and so those are two

23:24

things like we've had occasion in my family to

23:26

lean on the NHS quite a bit and it's

23:28

been wonderful for us and then

23:31

also there was a shooting near

23:33

where my son was in nursery

23:36

when we lived in California so that's not just

23:38

stuff that's on TV like a couple of people were

23:40

killed about 50 feet from

23:42

where he was in a cot so

23:45

that's terrible there's plenty that's terrible about

23:47

the UK to be sure

23:49

but those are two big ones that

23:52

you know mean a lot so

23:54

yeah I think the NHS can be

23:57

wonderful for all the things you say

24:00

And I know that they treated your son and

24:02

it was, you felt that

24:04

they did their very best. They were incredible.

24:06

They were incredible. Was that Great Ormond Street?

24:08

Yeah, it was. My son

24:11

Henry, if anybody is watching

24:13

this who doesn't know, I

24:15

have a son who died of a brain

24:17

tumor when he was two. That was in

24:19

2018. And

24:22

he lived for seven months at Great

24:24

Ormond Street Hospital. And then for seven

24:26

months at the Whittington Hospital in North

24:29

London and both of those places just

24:31

were just magnificent. And yeah,

24:33

the care that we received there, the

24:36

nurses and the doctors and everything

24:38

was just incredible. So yeah,

24:41

very, very dear to my heart, the NHS.

24:44

Also coming here well into

24:46

adulthood after decades of

24:49

having American healthcare and then

24:51

being like, what, it can be like this? It

24:54

was just, sadly, most people don't

24:56

know how good they've got it here. Cause

24:58

it's easy to complain. You're not

25:01

going to the doctor to kill time or

25:03

for fun. You're going cause you're my pancreas

25:05

or whatever, but it's amazing.

25:08

Rob, can I ask you, you say that, what

25:10

your kids get is what they get. Are

25:12

you and your wife good cooks? My wife

25:14

is a very good cook. But you can't

25:16

cook. No, I'm not a very good cook.

25:19

I'm a serviceable cook. Like you would sit down and

25:21

be like, I recognize what this is. See

25:24

what he was going for. It's not disgusting.

25:26

I have eaten a meal. You'd finish it

25:28

and be like, I did. In fact, I

25:30

did just eat is what you would say.

25:32

Do you ever cook? Yes, yeah, totally. What's

25:34

your strong point? You know what I have

25:36

loved doing lately is making a chicken noodle

25:38

soup from scratch. That's really fun. And it's

25:40

surprisingly easy. Chicken noodle soup

25:42

from scratch. So my kids

25:44

like what I cook cause I cook like simple stuff

25:47

like that or like chili. You know what I mean?

25:49

You can make chili. In fact, I

25:51

usually make vegetarian chili. Sometimes I'll make it with

25:53

meat. What do you, corn or do you use

25:55

that? I'll use corn sometimes.

25:58

Well that washes it. for

26:00

Vera or something. If

26:02

I make vegetarian chili, I don't typically put a

26:04

fake meat in it. I'll have beans in it.

26:06

Okay. Protein. But

26:09

yeah, I make basic children think my cooking

26:11

is quite good. Adults are like, it

26:13

was fine. Like an adult would be like,

26:15

yeah. You know, probably, I bet it

26:17

would be very endearing like on an

26:19

early date, like early in a relationship. She'd

26:22

be like, oh my God, he tried.

26:24

He tried, okay. So tell me, hold

26:27

on, I'm now ready. Okay, right. Oh my

26:29

God for that. You know, it's like a

26:31

bit faffy because it's Nigel Slater. So, it's

26:33

delicious. Oh my God, that's gorgeous. I

26:36

haven't done this recipe before, but I believe

26:38

in Nigel Slater and it smells kind of

26:40

good. It's like chicken and peach

26:42

salad with mint and basil and a kind

26:44

of warm dressing. Please help yourself up. May

26:46

I take a picture of it? Oh, you're a

26:48

person that takes photos of me. Not typically, but

26:50

I want to show this to my wife.

26:52

I want to even try to do a

26:54

bad job of it at my own house.

26:56

It's on the Guardian app. I'll

26:59

send it to you. Okay, thank you. But

27:01

yeah, dig in and answer your questions. Oh

27:04

Lord, look at that. Oh Lord, look at

27:06

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27:08

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27:10

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27:12

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28:50

does your wife cook that's your favorite thing

28:52

that she cooks? Oh, that's a good question.

28:55

She makes incredible salads. And

28:57

that's really a skill, you know, so

29:00

you're a salad person. I love salad. We

29:02

did all right then fine. Great. Perfect. Did

29:05

do well, darling. So good. But it's very mild

29:07

chili, please have more

29:11

and then I've got a pud. I know that you

29:13

are on the sugar. It's

29:16

less sugar. It's a chocolate mousse and

29:18

you don't have to have. Okay, fine. Well,

29:20

okay, great. Okay, good. Thank you. No. So

29:23

what do you want to hear the

29:25

story? Yeah, like why change the way

29:27

that I eat? Yes. So there was

29:29

a big strike between sag and the

29:31

writers Guild. Yeah, which shut down Deadpool

29:33

Wolverine. Yeah. And everything being made

29:35

in the world. When we returned,

29:38

they could legally edit what they

29:40

had shot. So we had the

29:42

rare opportunity to have about

29:44

an hour of a big Hollywood

29:46

film totally done. And then

29:49

they could kind of adapt and take it in

29:51

and make changes if they wanted to. So they

29:53

had a rare and really special opportunity to do

29:55

that. Anyway, so I saw a

29:57

shirtless scene of mine. a

30:00

little, yeah, about a year ago, that

30:02

had been shot some months before. And when I

30:04

saw it, I was like, okay, so that's gonna

30:06

be on screens in

30:08

China, Argentina, and

30:11

people are gonna associate that body

30:13

with me because it's attached to my face. That's

30:16

very visibly me. And I was like,

30:18

Oh, that's a bit gorgeous. I weighed quite a bit

30:20

more at the time. So I'm not gonna say it

30:22

wasn't gorgeous that maybe, you know, your thing. But

30:26

for me, I was like, that is,

30:28

he's a larger fellow than I would

30:30

like to personally be. So

30:33

I was like, okay, but there's still about six months

30:35

until the movie comes out. I

30:37

can lose weight in that time,

30:39

theoretically. God knows how it'll be done. And

30:42

then when the movie comes out, I can be like, yeah, it was

30:44

an acting choice. I just thought he should be my

30:46

dedication to my craft. And so

30:49

here's what I did. I knew I

30:51

would never count calories. I was

30:54

never gonna send away

30:56

and have my meals come to the house in

30:58

a packet. I was never not gonna sit down

31:00

with my family. So I was like,

31:02

you know, hey, I've heard that if you cut

31:04

out flour and sugar, that that

31:06

can lead to losing weight. So I did

31:08

that. I cut out flour

31:10

and sugar. It wasn't easy, but it wasn't impossible.

31:13

The very difficult thing that I did

31:15

was stopping eating after dinner. Because

31:17

like, you know, you have dinner, great. But

31:20

what do you do when 930 rolls around? You

31:22

have to have at that point, a couple bowls of

31:24

children's cereal. And

31:26

then at 1115, you wanna tuck yourself in with about three

31:29

quarters of a thing of Ben and Jerry's. How

31:31

are you gonna say that? What flavor was your

31:33

past? I hate to say it, because I don't

31:35

like their, like the way they corporate brand

31:38

with stuff, but the flavor Netflix and

31:40

chilled, ugh, is so good. It's

31:43

so good. There's a lot of peanut

31:45

butter in it. It's just pornographic. Yeah.

31:48

And so that was hard at first, but

31:50

taking away flour and sugar and

31:53

second and third dinners, no bread. So like

31:56

no version of bread? Like, would you

31:58

have like, did you find like a

32:00

CD? something substitute. I could,

32:03

but this is easier. And I'm

32:05

not, like for example, this amazing nutritious, rich,

32:07

look at the number of things that are

32:10

on this plate, is high,

32:12

colorful, beautiful, flavorful. Like

32:14

this totally meets my

32:17

thing, you know? But anyway, doing

32:19

all that made losing weight

32:21

kind of easy. You

32:23

know what? Fuck you though, Rob, because like,

32:26

I swear it's fucking, you go, I

32:28

think I'm gonna lose weight. I'm not

32:31

saying sugar and flour. I swear if I

32:33

took out sugar and flour, it'd be like,

32:35

I'd just get bigger. I'd be like, why?

32:37

Oh, well, it's so annoying. Men just can

32:39

lose weight. And it's true. Okay. But

32:42

I'm thrilled for you. First of all, I

32:44

accept that. I take it in. Thanks, thanks.

32:46

Fuck me, of course. I agree completely. Here's

32:49

the thing. What it took, cause

32:53

there's no sure thing in this world, but Deadpool

32:55

3 is kind of a sure thing.

32:59

And I knew that Marvel's

33:01

marketing, Ryan Reynolds marketing, they weren't,

33:03

people weren't gonna have a choice

33:05

as to whether they saw it

33:08

or not. So the idea that

33:11

a beautiful woman in

33:13

Mongolia or

33:15

Saskatchewan was gonna see

33:17

this movie, which they are and did, and

33:20

then it would cut from Hugh Jackman being

33:22

like, whoa, and then cut to me and

33:24

have an awful audience. Be like, ha ha

33:26

ha ha ha ha. Knowing

33:29

that that was gonna happen around the world

33:31

is what it took. Because for me, I

33:34

used to be like, the only thing that

33:36

could make me lose weight would be a

33:38

man with a bloody hammer standing

33:40

next to me going, if you eat that, this

33:43

hammer will get bloodier with your blood.

33:45

So it was essentially you being in

33:47

competition with Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman.

33:50

And that's what I need to find.

33:52

I just find my version of Hugh

33:54

Jackman and Ryan. It took a negative

33:56

thing. Now, all of this

33:58

is stupid and vanity. So until

34:01

after having lost a bunch of weight

34:03

and not having flour and sugar regularly

34:06

coursing through my veins, a crazy thing

34:08

happened, which is my

34:10

immune system got like turbocharged.

34:12

So a side effect to

34:14

my vanity was that

34:16

I get sick so

34:19

much less, so much milder.

34:22

And that's like weird. It's like

34:24

spooky how different it is. So

34:27

apparently flour and sugar, you don't need to be

34:29

shoveling them into your body like I had been. Did

34:31

your wife do it as well? No, my wife,

34:34

you know how you said fuck you to me. My

34:36

wife is a triathlete. My wife, we did

34:38

a duathlon a week and a half ago,

34:41

which is a bunch of swimming and running.

34:44

She beat me by 12 minutes, I

34:46

think, right? Like

34:49

I'm running for 12 minutes. You've ran pretty far,

34:51

right? That's how much she beat me in the

34:53

thing. We did a half marathon once. She beat

34:56

me by over half an hour. She

34:58

just naturally prefers

35:01

to eat healthy things. She's not even

35:03

in the business. She's just, it just

35:05

makes me happy to just do this

35:07

stuff. Yeah, she's quite something. I

35:09

hear that you, maybe that what helps with

35:12

your immune system as well, you're a cold

35:14

water swimmer out here. There's

35:16

a gang of you that go to the

35:18

pond. Why do you do this?

35:20

So I started swimming in the summer. If you'd

35:23

said one day you'll swim in cold water, I'd

35:25

be like, you're mistaken, cold water is cold. But

35:27

found this beautiful body of water, started swimming in

35:29

the warmer weather, and then as the temperature went

35:31

down, just kept going. And

35:34

so that made it easier.

35:37

And frankly, the group of

35:39

people that I swim with is just magnificent. I mean,

35:41

some truly wonderful people. So there's a social aspect where

35:44

I've met some great people. How much

35:46

can you talk when your teeth are chattering? It

35:48

has to be pretty horrifically cold to not really

35:51

be able to talk, because often

35:53

we'll talk to just distract ourselves, but

35:56

the fact is, is now, swimming in the cold

35:58

water gives you a bug. and

36:01

like I'm sober, I've been sober

36:04

for 22 years and

36:06

I got sober because I liked to

36:08

get loaded. And so now

36:10

I can by swimming in cold water and

36:13

nobody gets hurt. You're buzzing when you

36:15

get out. It's a very special feeling. So

36:17

I get it. I

36:19

don't know how you, I would never say like, oh, you've got to

36:21

try this. I would say if you enjoy swimming in the summer, just

36:24

don't stop. Do you do cold showers every morning

36:27

then? I do. I

36:29

took a cold bath this morning. Why? Well,

36:31

it's like an additional cup of coffee. It

36:33

just gets me going. I don't know.

36:36

It makes me happy. How long did you

36:38

stay in your bath for? Just long enough

36:40

to shampoo in condition. Wow. Got

36:43

a miter. There is good gloss on your hair.

36:45

Maybe that's from the cold water. John

36:48

and Vin Van Ness said to do a cold

36:50

rinse at the end. So

36:52

maybe you're onto something. Do your

36:54

children swim? Yes, they

36:56

love the water. They're not old enough to swim in

36:58

any of London's. I think the only

37:01

place they'd be allowed would be like Parliament Hill,

37:03

Lido. But yeah, they swim. They'll get in cold

37:05

water. Yeah, they're great. And your wife, does she

37:07

swim? She's a swimaholic. She was- A

37:09

cold water swimaholic. Oh my goodness. How did you two

37:12

meet? We met at a camp

37:14

for people with disabilities. We were camp

37:16

counselors 20 years ago. Sweet.

37:19

Yeah, at a camp in Massachusetts

37:22

where I grew up and we were both counselors, taking

37:24

care of people with cerebral palsy

37:26

and helping them surf and swim

37:28

and all this stuff. So did you see her and

37:31

you just thought, that's the girl that I need to

37:33

be with? Or was it a summer

37:35

of love? Well, it was such a great way to

37:37

meet somebody because you kind of have to have some

37:41

altruistic tendencies to be there because you're working for

37:43

free, you know, volunteering. Oh, you don't get paid.

37:45

No, you don't get paid. And

37:47

then also it's the summer. So she was in a bikini

37:49

often. So I can tell she's a good person and I

37:51

can tell that I like when I see- You've been so

37:54

gorgeous. So yeah,

37:56

I very quickly fell irretrievably

37:58

in love with her. and thank

38:00

God she felt some version of the same

38:02

way. Yeah, we've been together for 20 years.

38:05

Is there a song from that summer that

38:07

can bring you back to that camp? Yeah,

38:09

there are a few. I would say probably

38:11

the song of us meeting

38:13

is a song called Hey by the

38:15

Pixies. Okay, that's cool. Yeah, because

38:17

it was 20 years ago, so I had like one of

38:19

the earlier iPods. So

38:22

it's not like today where you've got, you know, streaming and

38:24

you're like, what do you want to listen to? What, anything

38:26

do you want to listen to? Do you want to listen

38:29

to that Italian version of Let It Be played by the

38:31

Brazilian guy on a marimba? Like you

38:33

just had like 12 songs. And

38:35

so we had our, you know, 12 or so songs.

38:38

How'd you finish university? How'd you go into university?

38:40

Yes, I was 27 when we met and she

38:42

was 24. So

38:44

I just took a leave of absence for my

38:47

job because I heard about this volunteer opportunity because

38:49

a friend of mine had worked there. And

38:51

she was in the process of

38:54

moving from Mississippi to Washington, DC

38:56

from one teaching job to another

38:58

because she's a teacher. So

39:00

we were just kind of, we're there

39:02

totally by chance. Were you acting by

39:04

then? No, at that point I am

39:07

working in internet advertising. I have a

39:09

day job that I loathe and I'm

39:11

very bad at, thinking like, hey,

39:13

you want to be doing more comedy. In

39:15

fact, we'd spoke about American health insurance earlier.

39:18

I had to get a day job that

39:20

provided health insurance as a benefit. So like

39:22

a lot of Americans, I was kind of

39:24

shackled to a job that I did not

39:26

like. But then after a couple

39:29

of years of marriage, I had the courage

39:31

to be like, I'm going to do it.

39:33

Did you try and be really funny at

39:36

the beginning of your relationship? Definitely. You are

39:38

funny, obviously, but like this is

39:40

what's going to get the girl or were

39:43

you like, no, I must start, like that's

39:45

going to work. I was trying to, I

39:47

think I was employing humor as one of

39:49

the tools to try to ensnare her. And

39:52

so she's super, super funny. No,

39:55

she is not a professional comedian, but she

39:57

could be, she makes

39:59

me laugh. very hard all the time. And

40:01

plus, we all know somebody who

40:04

makes us laugh harder than, you know, a

40:07

famous comedian. You know, be like, oh, my friend

40:09

Dave is insane, you know, or Lucy. Yeah, she's

40:11

like that. She's so funny and

40:13

makes me laugh all the time. She sounds amazing.

40:16

She does. Do you think you

40:18

could ever write anything with your wife? You

40:20

could. Do you know what? I'll be honest. I

40:22

have a little, I'm a little scared of that.

40:25

Now she's super funny. So could she write something

40:27

amazing on her own? Yes. Have I written stuff

40:29

that has been well received? Yes.

40:32

My parents did that and then they got divorced. So

40:34

obviously there are people who work together all the time

40:36

and are happy. So I know that that's possible. But

40:39

I have a slight phobia of

40:41

that. And then also, it is kind of

40:43

nice to separate church and state. You know

40:45

what I mean? So I don't know. I,

40:47

we should try it though. For sure we

40:49

should. And just even for fun. Can we

40:52

ask you what your last supper would

40:54

be before you're going off to a

40:56

desert island? Starter,

40:58

main, food, drink

41:00

of choice. Oh, wow. I

41:02

mean, there was a thing for a

41:04

few anniversaries early in our marriage,

41:07

my wife and I would go

41:09

to Mastro's Steakhouse in

41:11

Beverly Hills, California. And it is

41:15

classic Hollywood. You know, there's like a

41:17

piano bar. You can make requests from

41:19

the guy. How gorgeous. We would always

41:22

get their ribeye which was

41:25

outrageous. For sure the best

41:27

cut of meat I've ever had. So I would

41:29

start with something like

41:31

a simple Greek

41:34

or Caesar salad. And without

41:36

any meat on it typically. Yeah.

41:38

Because I want to see how you do it.

41:40

Maybe we can add, maybe we can introduce meat

41:43

later on subsequent visits. But let's see how you're

41:45

doing with the basics first. With the anchovy and

41:47

the dressing. Yeah. Okay. That would be a candidate.

41:49

There's also a pizza place in Boston called Regina's.

41:52

And there are pizzas outrageous. That would

41:54

be a candidate. What would be your

41:56

topping? Or are you a purist on that?

41:58

Would you just go Mark? No, in fact, if I were- If

42:00

it were Regina's I'd get the whole kitchen

42:02

sink on it. I would get pepperoni, sausage,

42:05

tomatoes, onions, peppers. And

42:07

then for dessert, I mean probably a key

42:09

lime pie, which we mentioned earlier. That's just

42:12

a good key lime pie because it's cold,

42:14

you know. And limey.

42:16

What's the best key lime pie you had

42:18

in Florida? Definitely

42:20

for sure. Is it everywhere

42:22

on every menu? Yeah. Okay. And it's

42:24

usually amazing. And do they differ? Yeah.

42:27

Really? Yeah. Really. And drink of choice? All

42:30

I drink these days is water,

42:32

sparkling water, and coffee,

42:34

black coffee. So you just

42:36

have straight black coffee? I have-

42:39

Expresso or- Usually I have

42:41

an Americano. Yeah. And then I drink hot coffee

42:43

in the morning. Yeah. And then iced coffee in

42:45

the afternoon. Because

42:48

I'm forcing you, I just grated an extra bit

42:51

of chocolate on the top just because it's completely- Thank you.

42:53

So exciting. And I know what you're going to

42:55

say. I didn't clean- I gave him the cleanest-

42:57

Okay. Okay, good. Good one. Good done. I know

42:59

that the presentation isn't fabulous on the menu. It's

43:01

gorgeous. I think it looks fabulous. This is maybe

43:03

the olive oil. And the

43:05

olive oil comes from Scopolos. Amazing. Oh.

43:09

Here's a foodie thing we do. We

43:11

have a Greek neighbor who- her

43:13

dad makes olive oil in

43:15

Greece. So she takes orders every

43:18

year and everybody gets a big, I don't know

43:20

what you call it, small barrel.

43:22

Yeah. That's big of olive oil. And I remember

43:24

the first time she asked if I wanted to

43:26

join the olive oil club. I said

43:28

yes to be polite. I am British

43:30

now. And- but I was like, what the

43:32

hell am I going to do? Anyway, having

43:35

unlimited, great olive oil has been

43:37

such an improvement to our life. Because you know how some-

43:39

like before that, we'd be like, oh, I don't know if

43:41

I have enough left. Or I don't want to have to

43:43

go out, so I'll just use a little. And now I'm

43:45

just bathing in it. Huge improvement in my life. I

43:48

want to be part of an olive oil club. I think

43:50

the Greek olive oil is amazing. It's very

43:52

light. It's not

43:54

strong flavour, I think. You have

43:56

children and you are in- Marvel,

44:00

like Deadpool, right? Yeah. When

44:03

is the right time to introduce Marvel

44:06

or Deadpool? Because I must

44:08

be one of the only people that hasn't because I've been

44:10

holding it back to watch it with my kids, which is

44:12

probably quite stupid because I could just watch the film twice.

44:15

But have your kids seen it? My

44:18

older two have seen

44:20

Deadpool. Now, I

44:22

don't think an 11 and 13 year old necessarily

44:25

should see Deadpool and

44:27

Wolverine because people explode in it,

44:29

you know? And they

44:31

say the C word and stuff like

44:33

that. So 11 and 13. The

44:35

C word? I thought Americans didn't use that word. Yeah,

44:37

well, maybe because they filmed it here and ran

44:39

as Canadian. Yeah, right. Or Hugh Jackman, as an

44:42

Australian, must probably insist that they use it or

44:44

he wouldn't do the film. Okay, fine. Why

44:46

do they use it? Where do they use it? It's a

44:49

great word. I hate it. It's my worst word. How do

44:51

you feel about the word? I

44:53

quite like it because it's just so

44:55

percussive. Yes. It's like, p-k-t-t.

44:59

You know, you're like getting something out. So it

45:01

helped, I find it helpful and soothing. The thing

45:03

is, my kids kind of had to

45:05

see it because I knew their peers would. And so

45:07

I needed them to know why their friends

45:10

were making fun of them, you know, about

45:12

their dad. What's your character in it then?

45:14

I play a guy named Peter who is

45:16

a human friend of Deadpool's. So he's one

45:18

of the few people, you know, prominently featured

45:20

in the film who does not have any

45:22

superpowers. Were you a bit

45:24

gutted about that? No, I love not having, because

45:26

that makes you special in the world. Yes, very

45:28

not fair. So I came

45:31

into the movies in Deadpool

45:33

2 when Deadpool,

45:35

played by Ryan Reynolds, was forming a

45:37

team called the X-Force. And

45:39

he just admired my character's chutzpah when I showed

45:42

up and was like, yeah, I don't have any

45:44

powers. I just thought it'd be fun. He looked

45:46

great, come on in. And so then

45:49

they brought my character back for this

45:51

one. So incredible, incredible fun, you

45:53

know. Is he a lovely man? He

45:55

really genuinely is. He's a kind

45:57

Canadian guy and fun. and

46:00

fun and so hard-working so a

46:03

really wonderful sort of heart and

46:05

engine to the whole thing yeah.

46:08

Another soccer. He does. Have

46:10

you been there? Have you been? I should go.

46:12

Do you like football? Yeah. Are you proper British

46:14

now? I mean here's the thing I moved here

46:16

too old this is how I feel about when

46:19

I go to a football match I look down

46:21

on the pitch and I go like everybody having

46:23

fun great like I care

46:25

about the Boston Red Sox baseball team

46:27

you know and like try explaining that

46:29

sport to somebody you know over 30

46:32

that sports crazy but since I grew

46:34

up with it it's just

46:36

what I know and so yeah I'm

46:38

probably more involved. What's about your children

46:40

there? They miss. They're football madmen. Are

46:42

you Arsenal? Yeah. Of course they are.

46:44

Are you writing anything at the moment?

46:46

Yes. Will we be able to see

46:48

it soon? I hope so. I have one show

46:50

I'm about to try and sell that

46:53

I've just finished writing with a partner and

46:55

then I have another one there's a network

46:57

that has said we like this pilot you've

47:00

written so I'm writing that actively right now.

47:02

Will they be London base? Hell yeah I

47:04

would never do anything else. Great.

47:06

Will you star in them? Yeah.

47:08

Anything I write I put myself in

47:11

because you need the like

47:13

juice. People don't care if you write or direct

47:15

something in the real world that people everybody believes

47:17

that actors make it up as they go and

47:19

they don't know what a director is so since

47:21

I'm not famous enough to not I like have

47:24

to put myself in it so that I get

47:26

more juice so that one day I can write

47:28

something and not have to be in it so

47:30

I always put myself in it. Is that the

47:32

ambition? Not necessarily. Do you have the option? I

47:34

guess I would like to not have to be

47:36

in it you know but as it stands now

47:39

sadly I have to act in my own stuff.

47:41

We're okay with that. Before we let you go.

47:43

Oh I've got to ask two more questions. Okay

47:45

go on you go first. Which is your favorite

47:48

restaurant in London? What sort of food you like

47:50

to eat? I know you like Caesar salad and

47:52

steak. A restaurant that I like a lot that

47:54

I will sometimes eat lunch at with my wife

47:56

is called Cod on Upper Street and what I

47:58

like about it is is it's

48:01

on the same street as

48:03

Otto Langie, but it's cheaper

48:05

and less crowded. And

48:08

so there's like no pretension. Not that Otto Langie is

48:10

pretentious, just the people who eat there are. I mean,

48:12

it's great that he exists and does that. But when

48:14

you go in there and look at the clientele, you're

48:17

like, no, thanks. So you go down to Cod, costs

48:19

less money, absolutely just as good.

48:21

And so you'll just have big

48:23

bowls of beautiful meat and

48:25

vegetables, very lovingly prepared, and you can take

48:27

a few and sit down and eat it.

48:29

Oh, that sounds great. Yeah, so that's my

48:31

type of thing. Something that's like really nutritious,

48:34

but also lovingly prepared. Yeah, I like

48:36

that a lot. And if we were coming over to you, you'd

48:38

be making us chicken noodle soup. Very likely.

48:40

Do you have dinner parties? Yeah,

48:43

we had some friends over

48:45

a couple nights ago. We were gonna

48:47

make pizza in our little pizza oven

48:49

in the back garden, but the hose

48:52

from the tank to the thing broke, so

48:54

we couldn't. So my wife

48:56

just whipped together an amazing salad and

49:00

my 11-year-old son loves to make fried chicken,

49:02

so he made some fried chicken salad. Oh,

49:04

wow, how does he do it? How does

49:06

he do it? He does

49:08

breadcrumbs and cornflakes. Oh, yeah,

49:10

wow. Uses a little Bojangles

49:12

spice. That's a North Carolina

49:14

fried chicken restaurant chain that

49:17

we go to when we're

49:19

there. So yeah, so

49:21

wound up having a lovely meal, despite

49:23

the fact that our pizza oven didn't work. Great.

49:26

Can I ask you, before we let you go,

49:29

what is a nostalgic taste

49:32

that can transport you back somewhere happy or

49:34

sad? I would

49:36

say a grapefruit, like sliced

49:38

in half and eaten, or

49:40

some blueberries. Those are like

49:42

snacks my mom would give me when I was a

49:44

kid, and they make me very happy. So

49:47

those are quite- Grapefruit? Yeah. That's

49:49

sophisticated for a child. It is a little weird.

49:51

My kids like it too, though. Yeah, but I

49:54

loved it. Was it a pink one or a

49:56

ruby, but like- Usually, not always. I

49:58

like them both. But she sprinkle sugar on it as well. She

50:00

wouldn't. I only found out about that later in life. So

50:04

now I find that's too decadent. I mean, come on. Rob,

50:07

thank you so much for coming on. Thank you. It's

50:10

really lovely to meet you. Great to meet you. Thank you

50:12

so much for having me. Can't wait to watch the

50:14

rest of Bad Monkey. Me too, I love it.

50:16

But also just wanna see more of your stuff

50:18

too. Aw, thank you. Cause honestly, Could

50:20

you stop me? Yeah, it was just-

50:22

Fabulous. You are brilliant. Aw, you guys are.

50:25

Thank you. And so yeah, thank you

50:27

so much for being here. My sincere pleasure, thank

50:29

you. dy I'm

50:32

really well bath. unders

50:55

Rob Delaney. Potentially the most

50:57

dish of men coming

51:29

on Bad Monkeys out now on

51:31

Apple TV. And it's fabulous. It's

51:34

really fun, it's dark, it's twisted,

51:36

it's punchy. So

51:38

go and watch it. Then whilst you're at it, I mean you

51:41

could just go onto Amazon or For On

51:43

Demand and go and watch Catastrophe again.

51:45

Yeah, wonderful. I think I'm just going

51:47

to do the Deadpools now, just so I

51:49

can watch Rob Delaney. Thank you

51:51

for listening. We'll be back next week. Bye.

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