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to table manners, I'm Jesse
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Ware, it's a Sunday morning,
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spring, quite springy. Springy is
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frost just fucking freezing actually.
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And we have, we've got
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spring flowers that's in. Yes,
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we have daffodils on the
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tables and also some hyacinths
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that smell nice, don't they?
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I'm not a green-fingered gal.
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I do like them. We
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have Oscar nominee, Zoe Saldana.
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And the weirdest thing happened
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last night, I went to
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see Yumi Bumbam train, which
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is not... Stop showing off,
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Jess. Listen, I've been trying
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to see this show for
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15 years, managed to get
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a ticket, I went last
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night, I finished it, read
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up on it, I can't
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explain this right now, and
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also I'm sworn to secrecy.
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But who comes out straight
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after me? Zoe Saldana. interrupt
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you but I'll see you
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at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning she
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was just I think she was
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in a bit of a day
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she went okay fine so anyway
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we can't talk about it even
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though that's all I want to
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talk about because we're sworn to
1:14
secrecy and we signed an NDA
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so but me and her can
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go into a secret room and
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talk. You signed an NDA and
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you paid to go and see
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it. Amelia Perez, you'll know
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her from, maybe you know her
1:29
from crossroads, me, but you know
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her from avatar, maybe you know
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her from Guardians of Galaxy. But
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she is celebrating her nomination as
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Rita in Jacques-O-Dard, Jacques-Ode-Yard,
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his film Amelia Perez, which is
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on Netflix, and I really enjoyed,
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she was fantastic in it. I
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need to ask her whether Amelia
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Perez is based on a genre
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of Mexican film, where you sing
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in it. but it's not really
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a musical. There is singing, but I
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would not call that musical. Or
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would you call it a musical?
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I mean, I don't think
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it's a Mexican genre. No,
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I just wonder, anyway, I'll
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ask her, what have I
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cooked? Well, it's a Sunday
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morning, and I've done a
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green shat shuka, which I've
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never made before. It's lovely.
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Which looks nice, it's lots
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and lots of herbs, and...
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and parsley. And I'm going
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to put eggs in it
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and you serve it with
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harissa. Oh yeah. I've done
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labna instead of yogurt. Nice. And
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I'm going to some halumi. Mom.
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And I've done a fruit platter
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and I have made some
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gluten-free chocolate, double chocolate
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chip cookies, thank Angela
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Hartnett recipe. They are...
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Delicious, quite sweet, but delicious,
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absolutely chewing delicious. A bit like
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macarons. Anyway, I've got those
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to go with it and
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everyone can take some home.
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Amazing, yeah. Pretty amazing, yeah.
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Been up since I was seven darling,
3:02
just in kiss. We'll let Zoe know
3:04
that in a minute, yeah, okay, cool.
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And I did think I needed a
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facelift this morning. Why? Because it's all,
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you look amazing. It's all dropped,
3:13
darling. It's all gone that way.
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Mom, you look very good. Thank you,
3:17
darling. Is it because you've been looking
3:19
at my skin? Because I'm investing in
3:21
it so much. I was thinking that
3:24
I need a collagen facial every day,
3:26
every time that we do a podcast.
3:28
You should just drink collagen.
3:30
Can I just say one thing? Yeah. I
3:32
was at our local pub at the Abbeyville
3:34
on Friday, and two people came up to
3:37
me and said Lenny. And I think I
3:39
know them when they go, Lenny. And I
3:41
go, do I know you. Do I know
3:43
you. And then they say, do I know
3:45
you. We're such fans of the podcast. So
3:47
please, to anyone who does come up to
3:50
me and says, Lenny, and I look like
3:52
I'm a bit confused. Thank you very much
3:54
for recognizing the podcast, but I'm
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embarrassed and I did blush twice and
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I was with a group. friends who were
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also embarrassed on my behalf. So what you
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want them to come and say hi
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to you with a disclaimer that says
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I am a fan of the podcast
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Lenny? No I just want them to,
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I'm really thrilled that people love our
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podcast. But please respect my privacy? No
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it's nothing to do that. I don't
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need to respect. Oh Lenny's on chapel
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or own off. Someone's at the door. Now
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listen, I've been saying your name wrong
4:32
forever. Is it Zoe Saldania? It is,
4:34
yeah. Have you got a squiggle? No,
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on my birth certificate. I was born
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in New York, New Jersey. Yeah. And
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on my birth certificate, they didn't put
4:43
it on. So I'm technically Zoe Saldania.
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Was that a mistake? that they didn't
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put it on in the, you know,
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the birth certificate department. I think that
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back in the day it was an
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entitlement of like, well, this is America,
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this is English, bad doesn't exist, so
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we're not going to put it. In
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terms, like now there's just, there's this
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mindfulness of how do you... want to
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be called. Who are you? What is
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your name? And that I truly appreciate
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that gave me permission to make that
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choice. Yeah. Coming to that awareness, I'm
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like, wait a minute. This is not
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my full name. My full name is
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Soes Aldagna. And I just, I'm like,
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I'm no, it's no longer my job
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to help you pronounce my name. But
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it's also like, it's also my job,
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not take it personally if you can't.
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So, you know what I mean? I
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don't know, how do you say you
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do Zoe? Oh, in the way that
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my family says it in Spanish is
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soy, soy, soy, okay, soy, soy, soy,
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soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy,
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soy, soy, and the accent on the
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eat, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy,
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soy, and then the accent on
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the eat, soy, so yeah, because
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I was going to set me
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and set means live, how you
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know that, just know that Zoni
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means means lie, But I just
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wondered, it's not why they chose
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it. My mom was liking that
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name a lot. And from what
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I hear, my mom and my
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dad, they were really young parents,
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and they either were making love
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or they were fighting, you know,
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love. And I guess that throughout
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my pregnancy... my mom and my
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dad were at each other's wits
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and and they couldn't decide on
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a name because my dad wanted
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to name me Jadira which is
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my second name and then when
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my mom learned that it was based
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on an old girlfriend of his she's like
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oh no no I'm not gonna name my
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kid with you the name of some ex-girlfriend
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that you still it's like fuck you yeah
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so um And she liked Zoe. There
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was something about Zoe, Zoe, Zoe,
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Zoe, Zoe. And that she was
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orbiting that name because where we
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grew up in New York, in
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Queens, and also in New Jersey
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at the time, it was very
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Greek. Puerto Rican, Dominican, Brazilian, Indian,
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like neighborhoods, you know. And so
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then they made peace. I'm born.
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They give her a book of
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names. She goes straight to the
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Z. She goes, if the name
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is here, it's going to be
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Zoe. And she found it's going
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to be Zoe. And it's going
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to be Zoe. And it's just
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ZOE. No Y. No IE. Or
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it's just ZOE. And then my,
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and then she told my dad
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because they made peace. So it's
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so easy to talk about. Well,
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congratulations. You're up for everything. Yes,
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yes. And you've already won one.
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Yes, yes, or up for a
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lot, yes. And we love Rita.
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Thank you. It was such a, I
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mean, OK, mom has a question
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about the musical aspects. I wondered,
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is it a genre of Mexican
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film that there is singing? I
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wouldn't call it a musical. Would
7:46
you call it a musical? But
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I wondered if it's a genre
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of Mexican filmmaking. No, no, no,
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I think that. Okay. Not that
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I'm aware of, though I'm sure
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that films in Mexico have been,
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you know... been musicals before
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because the Mexican cinema is
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so rich and so beautiful
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and I grew up watching
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Mexican cinema. Talented people like
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Antim Flas who was sort
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of the the Charlie Chaplin
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in a way of Mexico.
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La India Maria was this
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prolific comedian actress that did
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great movies that were funny
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and humorous but also thought-provoking
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and I mean I've seen
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black and white cinema, I've
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seen silent movies in Mexico,
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so from of Mexico.
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But this movie didn't really
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feel, I have to say,
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it felt Mexican but also
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it didn't. It felt very
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dystopian, hyper-real, set upon a
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world that was, there was
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inspiration from Mexico taken
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into consideration, but
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into consideration, but it
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wasn't It's an experience. I don't even
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call it a musical, I don't call
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it a drama. It's a compilation of
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so many things. I do believe that
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what Jack was attempting to do was
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break the mold of just like, oh.
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of genres and break the mold of
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you know like manuals like art manuals
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of like this is this is the
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this is the formula when you're gonna
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do a musical or there's the formula
9:21
when you're gonna tell a drama he
9:23
just wanted to kind of give himself
9:25
that freedom it's like an experience you
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know can we we we will talk
9:29
about Amelia Perez a bit more later
9:31
but can we bring it back to your
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childhood you lived in New York, lived
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in Dominican, your heritage is Dominican,
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have you got Colombian in New
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York? No, no, little Puerto Rican.
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Little Puerto Rican, quarter, quarter, Puerto
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Rican, and three quarters Dominican. So
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what was a traditional dish that
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you would eat around the dinner
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table together, or one of your
9:52
favorites? Around the dinner table. And
9:54
who was there? You can, the
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plantains are our potatoes. So you
9:58
can have plantains. in the morning
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at noon and also, you know,
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at night. That's a very heavy
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dinner. Sometimes it was just right.
10:07
Arakolni, which is, it's just milk,
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it's like a rice, a risotto
10:11
done in milk, with milk, with
10:13
milk. Not sweet. You can have
10:15
it sweet or you can have
10:17
it savory. And it's savory because
10:19
you can put some Parmesan cheese
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on top, or you can put
10:24
like sugar on top. And I
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remember that I would put sugar
10:28
in cinnamon and cinnamon. powder on
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top. So it's like a porridge, yeah.
10:32
Yeah. And you do it at night
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because the milk and the rice, the
10:37
starchness of the rice, it's just very
10:39
soothing and I guess it just, it
10:41
relax, it's going to put seriously. Who
10:44
was cooking? everybody. In my,
10:46
at least in my household,
10:48
there were some, all the women.
10:50
I grew up in a
10:52
mainly matriarchal kind of structure.
10:54
They were husbands always around. Great-grandpa,
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grandpa, granddad, dads, you know,
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because I've had two fathers, the
11:01
one I lost and the
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one that I was gifted
11:05
again to have, and then... And
11:07
a lot of uncles and aunts, but
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it's mainly the women that are in
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the kitchen. Did you all speak Spanish?
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Yes, that's our first language. That's your
11:16
first language. and then you're you've got
11:19
English yeah you speak French no I've
11:21
picked up Italian because of my husband
11:23
and what other languages that's it do
11:25
my Italian I'm able to sort of
11:28
understand French yeah when when the French
11:30
want to be understood because then there
11:32
in the Paris is kind of like
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New York is kind of like London
11:37
where there's the slangs are actually
11:39
much more prominent and colloquially
11:41
you know spoken over over
11:43
the formalities of their language
11:45
so So I'm able to
11:47
pick up 30 to 50%
11:49
sometimes of French, and then
11:52
Brazilian Portuguese, not Portuguese that's
11:54
spoken in Portugal. Wow. It
11:56
isn't, but remember, like, I
11:58
speak a romantic language. So
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within that, I'm able to sort of...
12:02
Dabble I can get by in all
12:04
the other four. So, but your Spanish
12:06
is slightly different from European Spanish as
12:08
well. Where you say the C and
12:10
the Z. Yes, exactly. So, when did
12:13
you, you were born in New York?
12:15
New Jersey, New Jersey. I want to
12:17
be always honest because I'm, I like,
12:19
I dig New Jersey, but we're New
12:21
Yorkers through and through. But so, so
12:23
the cultures you were talking about Greek
12:25
and some of these other cultures that
12:27
were around, and what was some of
12:29
the food that you were eating if
12:32
you were eating if you were around?
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your friends or what was memorable dishes
12:36
from some of those like neighbors? Well
12:38
we I come from a very just
12:40
culturally diverse family so from the from
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our inception so my my grandpa worked
12:44
at a pizzeria and it was an
12:46
Argentine pizzeria so I grew up eating
12:49
Argentine pizza and also like New York
12:51
pizza yeah and they were doing bananas
12:53
and focacas and at my grandpa's pizza
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where he worked called I don't remember.
12:57
What was it? It was in Jackson
12:59
Heights. Okay. Like maybe three blocks from
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where we grew up. Okay. And his
13:03
days off for Mondays. And on Mondays
13:05
he would make Una Sala or Hendino
13:08
and and they would drink wine. So
13:10
I remember being, what's that? Una Salo
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is like, you know, it's like, they
13:14
grill all the meats. It's a very
13:16
Argentine way of eating. It's like meats
13:18
and potatoes and cheese on the side
13:20
and you know, so and then all
13:22
the neighbors would come, you know, you
13:25
know, partners of partners of him at
13:27
the. pizza area would come. So I
13:29
grew up in a, and I grew
13:31
up in a neighborhood that was very
13:33
Columbia and Puerto Rican, Brazilian, Greek, black.
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So it was a melting pot of
13:37
all these things. I remember the very
13:39
first time I tasted like fried chicken
13:42
and waffles, which is a very African
13:44
American way of eating or southern way
13:46
of eating. And I was just like
13:48
so amazed that I'm like, well, this
13:50
is the perfect definition of brunch in
13:52
my mind, you know, because we didn't
13:54
really... We don't have like sweet breakfast.
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Yeah, sometimes we would have like an
13:58
American breakfast But I was I was
14:01
a daughter of immigrants and in our
14:03
house It was very Dominican. It was
14:05
just very Dominican and Caribbean. So, but
14:07
on the weekends, if people were going
14:09
to like a diner to have pancakes,
14:11
you know, with their families, we were
14:13
going to Chinatown or in Flushing, which
14:15
is a big, big Asian diaspora, and
14:18
we were having dim sum, or, you
14:20
know, if we wanted to go for
14:22
Chinese, we would have shabu-shabu, if we
14:24
wanted Korea and we would have the
14:26
barbecue. So it was, I grew up
14:28
just always understanding through their foods, or
14:30
we would have Indian, because just 20
14:32
blocks from where we lived, just one
14:34
train stop away from us, was a
14:37
very big Indian diaspora. So sometimes my
14:39
mom, my grandma, they would want their
14:41
goat stew, and they would go to
14:43
this Indian restaurant that was kind of
14:45
like a buffet, and I would eat
14:47
like all the sakpaniir, and the chicken
14:49
tikamasala, and I would have lentils there,
14:51
and I remember thinking, like, after my
14:54
grandmothers, you've got you've got a right
14:56
I'm glad we didn't do rice today
14:58
because I've heard you're very judgmental about
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rice oh my god yeah I read
15:02
a comment I would have it to
15:04
myself no you so you really judge
15:06
a person on their rice cooking I
15:08
do I do because it's like what
15:11
is I mean I would ask you
15:13
guys what is your simple dish that
15:15
you really have to be like to
15:17
f it up you know you judge
15:19
somebody on their chicken soup and maxibles
15:21
you do you You'll compare the hardness
15:23
of the ball and you will. Yeah,
15:25
that's true. And the flavor of the
15:27
the bra. Yes, exactly. The depth of
15:30
the bra. Yes, I believe that. So
15:32
I've had big mots of balls and
15:34
I'm like, I don't like the dense,
15:36
you know. So how is Zoe cooking
15:38
her rice? Okay, so we saw Teyar.
15:40
rice before we put the water in
15:42
it. Okay. We don't just put water
15:44
on a pot and then throw the
15:47
rice in there. Okay. It's a couple
15:49
of steps. So what are you saying
15:51
it with? What oil or butter? Just
15:53
olive oil. I know I do not
15:55
cook rice with butter. Okay. That's very
15:57
Italian. I learned that after I married
15:59
the Italians and I'm very much like
16:01
butter in my rice unless I'm making
16:04
that. milk, risotto, but okay, so you
16:06
put olive oil and you add the
16:08
salt, you wait for that oil to
16:10
sort of, you know, to start getting
16:12
warm or hot, and then while you're
16:14
doing that, you're rinsing your rice over
16:16
and over and over again. When I
16:18
lived in Dominican Republic, I would sit
16:20
down with my great-grandmother right on the
16:23
floor next to her chair, and we
16:25
would spread the rice and clean it,
16:27
because the rice would come straight from
16:29
the field into, once it was processed,
16:31
basically dried, hydrate or whatever it would
16:33
be put in a sack of rice
16:35
so you would get these sacks we
16:37
ate I grew up eating very farmed
16:40
at table very homestead that's why I'm
16:42
I'm a little picky eater but now
16:44
that you know we're living in an
16:46
air of everything is so processed you
16:48
know and and you would pick all
16:50
the all the rocks out of it
16:52
and all the all the rice that
16:54
looked different from each other if you
16:56
wash the rice a couple of times
16:59
and then you rinse it and then
17:01
you rinse the when the oil is
17:03
hot you put it's does that little
17:05
sizzling sound, you know, and then you
17:07
saute it, and then for a couple
17:09
of minutes, and then you add your
17:11
water. But you don't add so much
17:13
water. You add enough water that if
17:16
you put a spoon or a fork
17:18
or a knife, it can still stand.
17:20
You don't want pasty sticky ones. Unless
17:22
that's your intention. If that's your intention.
17:24
Sometimes Jasmine rice is a bit stick
17:26
here. Well, it just has to do
17:28
with the level of water. But here's
17:30
the trick. Come on. You don't just
17:33
cover it at high heat or whatever.
17:35
Or lower the heat and cover it
17:37
and forget about it. Because that takes
17:39
too long. The rice then spends too
17:41
much time soaked in that water soaked
17:43
in that water. You keep it at
17:45
high heat. You wait for that water
17:47
to evaporate. And when
17:49
the water is evaporated,
17:52
then that's when
17:54
you cover your rice
17:56
and you lower
17:58
your heat So you
18:00
have you'll get
18:02
that grainy delicious rice
18:04
and every little
18:06
grain is oily. It's
18:09
really good Yeah,
18:11
however, that's like a whole bum
18:13
bum train experience with rice It is
18:16
I'm telling you but let's say
18:18
sometimes my my stepdad wants coconut
18:20
rice So my mom, you know, it's
18:22
then you have to make it
18:24
a little sticky. Yeah, because it's you
18:26
know When we live in the
18:28
Caribbean, you get the coconut. You
18:30
see you which great egg Which
18:34
bit of the Dominican Republic were you I
18:36
grew up in central. I mean on the capitol.
18:38
It was beautiful It's
18:41
just the vegetation. It's just
18:43
gorgeous Well, and it's beautiful
18:45
and beautiful piece of history
18:47
is that we share the
18:49
island with Haiti Yeah, and
18:51
Haiti was the very first
18:53
nation in the Americas to
18:55
be completely independent Oh, really? Yes,
18:57
and after that then Dominican
18:59
Republic than other Caribbean islands
19:02
and then South America and
19:04
Central America And then inherently
19:06
the United States. Haiti gets
19:08
such a bad rap It
19:10
doesn't have the tourism that
19:12
Dominican Republic has it does
19:14
and I and my experience I
19:16
can only speak from my
19:18
experience. I Because very proud
19:20
my family has always been
19:22
very Understanding
19:25
and lived peacefully side -by -side
19:27
with Haiti. Yeah, they are two
19:29
very different Yeah, they are
19:31
very different cultures, even though we
19:33
share I
19:35
just have to do with
19:37
colonization. Yeah, all And they
19:39
said we'll put those people
19:41
there and these people know
19:43
not really It's just it's
19:46
just one when they discovered
19:48
when the Europeans came if
19:50
France one to one portion
19:52
Spain One to another yeah
19:54
about the English one to
19:57
another like South the Dutch
19:59
to and they started killing
20:01
each other for the land
20:03
because The lands were full
20:05
of gold. So when you
20:07
go to churches in Spain
20:10
a lot of them are
20:12
filled with gold that comes from stolen land. So it's
20:14
it's to know our history means everything to us. And
20:16
we we embrace all of our components to our composition.
20:18
We embrace our Iberian heritage, we embrace our African heritage
20:20
and our indigenous. So was it when you got messa-
20:23
Sorry I put the... No I'll do it. Oh wait
20:25
a minute can I help? No. Why? No. You need
20:27
to see. Like a very Dominican thing. Like how, if
20:29
my mom looked at her or my grandmother,
20:31
she'd be like, get up, go help.
20:34
No, I'll tell you if I'm in
20:36
here. Sorry, Mom, what were you going
20:38
to ask though? I wanted to ask.
20:40
Where you got married? Where you got
20:42
married? Where you got married? I read
20:44
that. You got married in London. Wow.
20:47
Why did you get the eggs on?
20:49
What was on the menu at your
20:51
wedding at your wedding? Oh my god,
20:53
it was so delicious. I'm not going
20:55
to do the UK. Um, because I
20:57
was working here. You just have to
21:00
fit in the wedding quickly. Well,
21:02
because my husband and I were
21:04
very fast and furious. I love
21:06
that. Everything that we do, it's
21:08
like love the hard way, love
21:10
the fast lane way. And I
21:12
was shooting a movie here and
21:14
it was mainly my idea. Marco
21:17
is more of like the feminine
21:19
spirit. He's the flower and I'm
21:21
the thorn. But just remember too,
21:23
like flowers need thorns because that's
21:25
how they're protected. Because that's how
21:27
they're protected. So he wanted to
21:29
sort of like plan it and
21:32
invite like a thousand people and
21:34
I literally wanted to do it
21:36
right then and there. Because I'm
21:38
like, we're working on location. We'll
21:40
send the invites to a lot
21:42
of people because it's so last
21:44
minute, many won't be able to
21:46
come and that's okay. And we'll
21:49
have a dinner and a party
21:51
afterwards. But I want to just, I
21:53
am, I have a lot of sensory. modulatory
21:56
particularities. I'm very
21:58
disregarding. often and
22:00
I get very overwhelmed and big
22:03
places especially if I'm the center
22:05
of attention I have to entertain
22:07
and for like a long extended
22:09
amount of time and I didn't
22:11
really know these things about me
22:13
until I finally just became a
22:16
mom. and I having to deal
22:18
with regulating my children all the
22:20
time right I realize that and
22:22
I get really emotional about this
22:24
I was just regulated for I'm
22:26
just regulated for a good chunk
22:29
of the day of the day and
22:31
and I think that art is a
22:33
way of me regulating myself so My
22:35
husband didn't know, but he's just
22:37
so accommodating. So I, I, I,
22:39
I, I, it was just like,
22:41
I don't want a lot of
22:43
people. I don't want this and
22:45
I don't. And he's like, well,
22:47
what do you want? He's, he's
22:49
the first person in my life
22:51
that when I met him, he started
22:54
always asking me, he's like, okay,
22:56
we just spend 30 minutes, what
22:58
do you, I wish, you know,
23:00
and, and it's like, I just
23:02
want. The people that make me feel
23:05
safe So when I look from the
23:07
altar at them, I just want people
23:09
that make me feel safe It's like
23:11
well then let's do that list who
23:13
are those people and it was just
23:15
You know like 50 people and out
23:17
of those 50 35 of them were
23:19
able to last minute change everything and
23:21
be there because I'm like when I
23:23
look back I want to look into
23:25
their eyes and I want to feel
23:27
their light back to me. I want
23:29
to feel their blessings. I don't want
23:31
to feel somebody kind of going Okay,
23:34
you know, because you just and that's
23:36
pressure I don't want to be press
23:38
pressured into inviting people Yeah, I do
23:40
want I want to desire I want
23:42
to I want to feel pleasure and
23:44
love and security And it was you
23:46
know, and they were a couple of strays
23:49
there that we picked up like last minute,
23:51
but they were also good good folks, you
23:53
know, and and we did it at the
23:55
Babington House, which is a wonderful place and
23:58
it was very private owned by a of
24:00
ours, my husband's best friend, who basically
24:02
last minute said, well just do it
24:04
here. And we called and they were
24:06
so accommodating. And I did it on
24:08
a Sunday because they didn't have availability
24:11
on a Saturday and I was shooting
24:13
Guardians of the Galaxy here and I
24:15
was working on Monday. So when we
24:17
found out last minute that I couldn't
24:19
do it on a Saturday and it
24:21
had to be on that Monday. I
24:24
was like, oh God, I don't want
24:26
to come straight from work, and I've
24:28
never done this before, and I've never
24:30
done it after. I went up to
24:32
the AD, and I said, um, is
24:34
it okay if I ask for Monday
24:36
off? And they're like, well, why? You
24:39
never do that in a production. And
24:41
I said, well, the thing is, I
24:43
said, I'm getting married on Sunday. And
24:45
I remember, I remember his face. He
24:47
was such a wonderful ad. He passed
24:49
away. All right, and I remember he
24:52
had like an internal conversation with himself
24:54
of all the moving pieces that he
24:56
had to do and then he finally
24:58
told himself in front of me It
25:00
must be done. It must be done.
25:02
Don't worry darling. I got I got
25:04
you and I was just like crying.
25:07
I'm like, thank you so much And
25:09
then the director came like are you
25:11
kidding me? Of course you're getting married.
25:13
Oh my god, and they were all
25:15
invited to the wedding It was in
25:17
2013 Yeah. See you've been married a
25:20
long time. No married 12 years. Yeah.
25:22
Very happy. And you have three. And
25:24
I met him just six months before.
25:26
Wow. How did you meet? I mean
25:28
on a plane. You know a plane
25:30
at 630 in the morning. A long
25:32
haul one or a short? It was
25:35
from LA to New York. Long enough
25:37
to get to know each other and
25:39
fall in love. Were you sitting next
25:41
to each other? dev within a couple
25:43
of aisles from each other. Well, who
25:45
made the first move? Who like? Oh,
25:48
he did. He's so Italian. Italians are
25:50
so confident, like, they're like, caramee, moo,
25:52
moo, it's all that thing. I'm flirting.
25:54
And I'm from New York. I'm like,
25:56
stop. Yes. Use your voice. Use your
25:58
manly voice. Because he, my husband's really
26:00
gentle. And he's really gentle. be unkind
26:03
to me. Okay I'll speak to you
26:05
like this. So I was always very
26:07
hard but maybe that's what he liked
26:09
about me I don't know. I just
26:11
hold on I just eat a note
26:13
so he made the first move. Did
26:16
he ask to swap seats? How did
26:18
he wait for you to go to
26:20
the Lou? I don't know how he
26:22
chats you are. Look she's so gorgeous
26:24
his eyes. No I get that. I
26:26
was traveling with my makeup artist who's...
26:29
from Argentina. And the reason why I
26:31
say this, doesn't matter where she's from,
26:33
but I love the fact that she's
26:35
from Argentina, because she speaks like, no!
26:37
Arentino speak very much like these, and
26:39
blah, blah, blah. And she calls me,
26:41
because we were traveling together for a
26:44
work thing, and she had arrived at
26:46
the airport before I did, and says,
26:48
Belouda, calls me, how far are you?
26:50
And I'm like, I'm like, 10 minutes
26:52
away, oh my God, come quick, there's
26:54
an Adonis. on
26:57
the parallel cue to us.
26:59
Come quick before he leaves!
27:01
So then I'm like, oh,
27:03
excuse me, sir, can you
27:05
please get there? And as
27:07
I'm walking towards her, she
27:09
does this thing. And then
27:11
goes like this, so then
27:13
my eyes look at her
27:15
and go exactly where she's
27:17
staring at. And he's right
27:19
there parallel to her on
27:21
the on the neighboring cue.
27:24
And. Something told me,
27:26
like I just heard this voice, I
27:28
was like, what the fuck was that?
27:30
You love him. Like I just heard
27:32
like my voice within me, I said,
27:34
you love him, and I was like,
27:37
when I look at him, like, obviously
27:39
the most gorgeous, because Italians can be
27:41
really easy on the eye. You know,
27:43
it's just so fucking Mediterranean and just,
27:45
I don't know, with that nose and
27:48
those, I don't know. And those big
27:50
hands. And big feet. Anyway, so then
27:52
he looks at me, but he gives
27:54
me that little player look like like
27:57
that little boy look and that just
27:59
irritated the fuck out of me because
28:01
I couldn't I couldn't already tell that
28:03
he knows he's beautiful yes you know
28:05
what I mean I like when somebody
28:08
doesn't know that they're beautiful and they're
28:10
clumsily beautiful um but he just knows
28:12
it and he owns it and he's
28:14
been banking all that shit since he
28:16
was 14 you can totally tell okay
28:19
so I made this whole history about
28:21
him yeah and then at the at
28:23
the newspaper stand once we're past the
28:25
security he's was we met We always
28:28
cross paths. What? And I'm like, no.
28:30
He goes, with so and so and
28:32
so, and we realize that we do
28:34
have friends in common, and I did
28:36
meet him, and I remember that I
28:39
told myself, forget you ever laid eyes
28:41
on this. I met him on a
28:43
yacht party and gun. three years before.
28:45
I love this. And as I'm, and
28:47
he was sitting with Corinne Rockfield, who
28:50
back then was the editor-in-chief of Vogue
28:52
magazine Friends, and she was one of
28:54
the people on the list that I
28:56
was told, you have to go meet
28:59
her, and goes, it's a nice thing
29:01
you, I hope you like me. And
29:03
she was talking to what, with someone
29:05
that appeared to be this gorgeous tall
29:07
blonde thing. turns out that it's a
29:10
man and it was my husband with
29:12
long hair my husband has long hair
29:14
and and she's like nice to meet
29:16
you Zoe this is Marico and I
29:18
said nice to meet you and he
29:21
he did this he goes bitch here
29:23
and he does this little Italian little
29:25
high-pitched thing that the Italians do some
29:27
little boys do some men you know
29:30
he's from the north he's from the
29:32
north he's from Lake Garda so he's
29:34
very gentle and very gentle and very
29:36
gentle Belly Bruti, like that's his, that's
29:38
it, Sio, you know, so the combination
29:41
of that made Marco Berigo. And, and
29:43
I remember thinking, oh, so beautiful, probably
29:45
the most gorgeous thing I'll ever lay
29:47
eyes on. What a player. So I
29:49
made this whole thing. I'm like, that
29:52
pirate's there with my pirate. And then
29:54
he reminded me, no, we met a
29:56
couple of years ago. And so he
29:58
gives Vera, my makeup artist. gives her
30:01
his information, because I wasn't going to
30:03
take it on the flight. We did
30:05
talk, and I realized like, just
30:07
reluctantly. liking him. I just
30:09
like, I'm like, my God, he's
30:12
just so easy on the eye.
30:14
I am so gentle. I'm like,
30:16
it's all fake. It's all fake.
30:18
I'm such a New Yorker. I'm
30:20
really, I have a very hard
30:22
shell, had, and... And New York
30:25
dating is quite tough as well.
30:27
I mean, I don't know. I
30:29
think it's easier. But you know
30:31
what? I'm 46. I've heard from
30:33
so many younger people that dating
30:35
today. It's just difficult. so different
30:38
from yourself. So most of the
30:40
times, people sort of weaponize
30:42
the fact that they can hide
30:44
behind these devices to just spew
30:46
so much hatred and intolerance and
30:49
inflexibility. And sometimes you reinvent yourselves
30:51
and you can be quite superficial
30:53
in the way that you're approaching
30:55
love or dating, right? So back
30:58
in the day, we relied on
31:00
face presence, right? And what you
31:02
saw in that very moment... was
31:04
what was going to get you
31:07
past, you know, first base. I
31:09
liked him and everything about him,
31:11
but I just felt like... Maybe he
31:13
wasn't going to be this
31:15
nice. Um, and then I
31:17
called him maybe three weeks
31:19
after that, that flight, you
31:21
didn't, did you, no tech?
31:23
I emailed him and I
31:25
said, I heard, I know
31:27
that you have a studio
31:29
because you told me that
31:31
you have an art studio.
31:34
He's a multidisciplinary artist. So
31:36
back then, Marco was, was
31:38
a sculptor and a painter,
31:40
and a conceptual argument. of
31:42
yin to each other's yang. Did
31:44
you do some ceramics together? We did,
31:46
we did and he taught me how
31:48
to make like mushroom risotto and thidamisu
31:50
and and you know have you have
31:52
you put this in to a production
31:54
company and you're making your own romcom
31:56
that you can star in? I don't
31:58
I don't know we We always love
32:01
telling the story of how we
32:03
met and we also love even
32:05
more hearing how others met.
32:08
Because that really just inspires
32:10
you. We're actively pursuers
32:12
of friends that are sort
32:14
of harmoniously together. We'd like
32:16
to surround ourselves with harmonious
32:18
people together, because it feeds
32:20
you, it really feeds you.
32:22
And then you keep each
32:24
other encouraged to keep going,
32:26
because love isn't easy. Love
32:29
is like, you know, we
32:31
get up and we eat
32:33
leaner and we go exercise.
32:35
We work so hard on
32:37
our image and how we
32:39
want to feel healthy. But
32:41
we become really cavalier with love.
32:43
Love takes? Love is a muscle, man.
32:45
You gotta always, like, it's in the
32:47
letters, it's in the effort that you
32:49
do for that partner, if you know
32:51
their love language. It's in the way,
32:54
you know that something makes them so
32:56
happy, even though you hate doing it.
32:58
So you'll do it, you'll budge, you
33:00
know, and vice versa. And it's in
33:02
the way, you are honest. even when
33:05
it hurts but you do it with
33:07
so much kindness which I'm still learning.
33:09
I will forever will forever be a
33:11
student of that going here because I
33:13
fail so miserably. Wait what is this?
33:15
Get on the mic mom? I love
33:18
it. But green. Okay. I never had
33:20
a green shirt. Fine. Okay. So
33:22
let's hope. And there's some halumi
33:24
that can be with it. I
33:26
love halumi so much. Great. And
33:28
then we've got some gluten free
33:31
rolls for you. Thank you so
33:33
much. Let's go. So, you know,
33:35
strained, kind of, you know, yoga.
33:37
And then Mum's made some
33:40
gluten-free chocolate chip
33:42
cookies. You guys are
33:45
incredible. Well, I've done
33:47
nothing. So, whilst Mum
33:50
is sorting out the,
33:52
I think the eggs and the
33:54
halumi, thanks, Mum, appreciate
33:57
you. Thank you, Mum.
33:59
Last supper we asked everybody there
34:02
last supper you can be going to
34:04
a desert island where you're not going
34:06
to have your delicious comforts and favorite
34:08
food for a very long time. So
34:11
this would be the last supper before
34:13
you go there. An appetizer, a main,
34:15
a dessert and a drink of choice.
34:18
What are you going to go? You
34:20
can think about this for a bit
34:22
or you can just hit me with
34:25
it. I'm a Gemini so I can't
34:27
just choose one thing. I love noodles.
34:29
I'm a sucker for Asian noodles. Okay.
34:32
I, you know, I love Udon, I
34:34
love, you know, Jache and I love,
34:36
I love Wanton noodles and everything, but
34:39
if I had to pick just one,
34:41
I would say my great-grandmother's food from
34:43
beginning to end. Okay, where would we
34:45
stop? We would start with like maybe
34:48
a little shot of a spresuncalfecido. Because
34:50
even though I don't drink hers any
34:52
minute. Why was it so good? It
34:55
was just great. When you grew up
34:57
in Latin America, we just make our
34:59
Cafetito. So like, you know, you can
35:02
have a cortarito, which is what they
35:04
call in Kuba. You just put a
35:06
little dash of milk, but it's just
35:09
tiny. And it's just an explosion of
35:11
just energy. But it's okay if you're
35:13
with your grandparents, because you can explode
35:16
on each other, you know, so I
35:18
would have a Cafetito. How old were
35:20
you when you when you started drinking
35:22
Cafetito? Young 5.4 or 5? No, stop!
35:25
I couldn't be putting my three-year-old having
35:27
a cafe seat. Huh? I'll eat too.
35:29
Because they would give you, your grandparents
35:32
are drinking it and they get that
35:34
little teaspoon and they just kind of
35:36
like give you, start giving it to
35:39
you, even though your parents are like,
35:41
oh, come on, no, mom, don't give
35:43
her that, don't, and then you learn,
35:46
you learn, you learn, as long as
35:48
your parents don't see you, your grandmother,
35:50
it'll go from two teaspoons to a
35:53
whole little shot of coffee, a coffee,
35:55
so maybe, maybe we'll end with a
35:57
coffee, We would start meeting with a
35:59
camel tea or just like, I'll go
36:02
about coala, you just have a soda.
36:04
But back in the day growing up
36:06
in and in a group... like they
36:09
had their own soda companies and there
36:11
was this brand called Kantri Club sodras
36:13
and the Merengue one which was I
36:16
think it was a ginger one was
36:18
I would start with that and then
36:20
we would have her her food which
36:23
is just rice and her beans from
36:25
scratch just she soaked overnight kidney beans
36:27
okay red kidney beans and And her,
36:30
her, um, do you want harissa? It
36:32
says to serve it with a little.
36:34
Sure. Harissa, so. Is it spicy? Harissa's
36:37
slightly spicy. Bring it on. Okay, fine.
36:39
Isn't it? It's like, it's like, is
36:41
it quite, and I'm like dolloping it?
36:43
This looks great mom. I'm not like
36:46
a yogurt savory fan. I like my
36:48
yogurt with granola and honey. Got it.
36:50
This is delish, mom. Thank you so
36:53
much. It's kind of more interesting than
36:55
the... I'm not mad about Shakespeare with
36:57
the Tamarters. I love it like that.
37:00
Mrs. Dennis. Well can I ask you
37:02
something? It's peas, not peas. It's leeks,
37:04
right? It's leeks, peas, coriander, spinach, mint,
37:07
and parsley. Can I get this recipe?
37:09
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whilst you're here.
37:11
How long you're in London, Paul? I'm
37:14
here until tomorrow. I arrived three days
37:16
ago. Oh God. Have you eating well,
37:18
whilst you've been here. I always eat
37:20
great here. The food here is so
37:23
delicious. I love, I love in English
37:25
breakfast, the bangers and whatever you call
37:27
it. The bangers, yeah. I love that.
37:30
The eggs and, how do you call
37:32
it? What is it? Bangers, they're sausages,
37:34
yeah. But you're also such a different
37:37
tool. Very different, I like, I like
37:39
when things are different. Because you're, you're,
37:41
I'm a very curious person and I
37:44
feel like you get to know a
37:46
lot about a culture and people through
37:48
their food. And you feel the energy,
37:51
when food is done with love, it's
37:53
made with love, you feel that energy
37:55
and it feeds you, it nourishes you,
37:57
right? But also you guys have a
38:00
huge West Indian and Caribbean melting pot
38:02
here. And I, that would be like,
38:04
if I can close my eyes and
38:07
admit, it's like... I love Chinese food,
38:09
like from, you know, Hong Kong, like
38:11
I like that kind of area of
38:14
food in China, and I love Caribbean
38:16
food. So I'll eat an oxtail and
38:18
a beef patty from the Jamaicans. I'll
38:21
have some rice and peas, I'll have
38:23
a roconcri from the Cubans, I'll have
38:25
bermil from the Puerto Ricans, I'll have
38:28
like my roasted chicken with my rice
38:30
and beans. I just, I love Caribbean
38:32
food. How do you rice your chicken?
38:34
In every Dominican household right next to
38:37
the stove you would need to have
38:39
like a wood pillar like this. Yeah.
38:41
And with like a big like hammer
38:44
that's part of like it was carved
38:46
from like aoba which is like a
38:48
very strong wood. Yeah. And that every
38:51
day you make your so frito with
38:53
oregano garlic and salt. So you start
38:55
mashing that until you create like a
38:58
paste. Right. that's like the base you
39:00
put it on your oil you do
39:02
that and then you cook everything when
39:05
you're making roasted chicken you wash your
39:07
chicken you dry your chicken you drill
39:09
holes around your chicken and then you
39:12
stuff it with that pace you're out
39:14
and then you rub it on top
39:16
of it and you start cooking that
39:18
in the oven it's the most delicious
39:21
I'm okay I'm okay can we go
39:23
back to your your grandma's recipes. It
39:25
wasn't great grandma, it was grandma wasn't
39:28
it? And back to that last supper.
39:30
So we're starting with, did we get
39:32
a starter from your grandma for the
39:35
last summer? You don't really do starters.
39:37
Okay, fine. Maybe sometimes, sometimes they'll make
39:39
like aripitas, like out of like corn,
39:42
little corn fidders or something or bakalau.
39:44
Oh yeah, which is salt, salt, salt
39:46
and hot fish. They'll do like little
39:49
fritters of like bakala or something and
39:51
then you can start with that But
39:53
usually we just go straight into the
39:55
main dish and what would that main
39:58
dish be? Mm. Rice red kidney beans.
40:00
Yes that roasted chicken that I told
40:02
you about. The origano garlic one. A
40:05
cabbage salad, a shredded cabbage salad. Coleslaw?
40:07
Yeah but not but not with mayonnaise.
40:09
Okay so what's in it? A merit,
40:12
yeah it's just shredded cabbage with
40:14
beets and sometimes it may
40:16
have carrots. Doesn't it all
40:18
turn it all red? Yes, yes. And
40:20
is it raw beat? No they're
40:22
cooked. So cabbage beets and onion?
40:24
And maybe on the side. Maybe on
40:27
the side. And I don't know.
40:29
And then the marinade is always
40:31
like lemon-based. It's like a lemon-vinagret.
40:34
So you have your vinegar or
40:36
your lemon, your salt, and your
40:38
oil. And with the kidney beans,
40:40
are they literally just kidney beans? Or
40:43
is she doing any spices with them?
40:45
Oh my God, it's a ritual. Like
40:47
we are masters at making our beans.
40:49
Some people bake them, some people do
40:51
this. You've got to cut them well.
40:53
It's the only time in my life
40:56
I got food poisoning. And then Japanese
40:58
beans have a poison in them. Yeah,
41:00
they do. completely. That's why they're pros.
41:02
You have to soak them overnight. So
41:04
that way they release that enzyme. And
41:07
that's why when you wake up the
41:09
water gets really like slimy. Yeah. You
41:11
rinse that water out, you soak them
41:13
some more. If you're really eating dry
41:15
good good beans, you know, and then you
41:17
cook them in the pressure pot.
41:19
Yeah. So what is it? So
41:22
the ritual, I mean, is that,
41:24
so would there be any seasoning
41:26
that goes in? Yes. So what
41:28
is it? The base is like
41:30
you're so fritte, which is the
41:32
garlic, the oregano. So it's the
41:34
same as the chicken and the
41:36
salt. And you put that as
41:38
a base, you put a whole onion
41:40
into the pressure pot, celery and pepper.
41:43
Okay. Either a green or a red
41:45
pepper. Oh wow. And you blast that
41:47
in the pressure pot. Then you take
41:49
all these things out, you can either
41:51
mash them, and then you create like
41:54
a broth, right? Like now you have
41:56
this broth. And then you add a
41:58
pumpkin, a piece of pumpkin. We have
42:00
to peel it. Why? Because that's a
42:02
starch. That's going to be the base.
42:04
It's going to thicken your... We don't
42:07
thicken our bases. Not in England. Cabocho.
42:09
We do like Cabochoa or we do
42:11
what we call... We call them... Oh
42:13
yamas. Oh yama is like our
42:15
Caribbean pumpkin and it's very pungent.
42:17
It has a very strong taste.
42:19
It tastes very much like a
42:21
pumpkin. But that's what's going to thicken,
42:23
because we don't use flour. We don't
42:25
use gluten. A lot of these countries,
42:27
you know, before bread, like we were
42:29
primarily gluten-free. Like we ate,
42:31
our starches came from like root vegetables,
42:34
provisions, which you call that. Yuka, Youti,
42:36
and yame. So this pumpkin. So then
42:38
you start cooking it La Nala, like
42:41
it's a soup. And you're putting your
42:43
pumpkin in there, and you put all
42:45
the mashed up vegetables that you put
42:47
with it within the pressure pot, because
42:50
they're super soft. and that you let
42:52
that boil down. When the pumpkin gets
42:54
really cooked, you take it out and
42:57
you mash it with some of the
42:59
beans. Not all of the beans, because
43:01
we don't eat very, our Mexicans, they
43:03
mash all the beans sometimes. No, we
43:06
like our beans sometimes. No, no, we
43:08
like our beans sometimes. No, no, we
43:10
like our beans. So you take it
43:13
out, you mash it, and then you
43:15
put it back into the broth. That
43:17
will thicken. Do you know? It sounds
43:20
really interesting. Can I try to get
43:22
Boolean cubes in the States? You can
43:24
only get them in the Mexican section.
43:27
It was weird. Yeah, that was the
43:29
only place. Couldn't find them anywhere else.
43:31
So, and would you finish with the
43:34
sweet rice pudding? And you'd say, no.
43:36
Because that would be more like a
43:38
dish. That would be like a meal.
43:40
Something with coconuts. Or if our fruits,
43:43
if we have any kind of fruits in
43:45
season, we like to caramelize them. We like
43:47
to cook them down in like sugar and
43:49
like vanilla and baking soda. And then you'll
43:52
just have a little bit with your like
43:54
your cafe sito. So we have
43:56
these berries that all through Latin
43:58
America that they're called cetera. They're
44:00
kind of like cherries or
44:03
they're like cherries. Our our
44:05
Caribbean cherries are called serresas.
44:08
Or serresas is cherry in Spanish.
44:10
Yeah, okay. And, um, and you
44:13
take them, but you can cook
44:15
them, you caramelize them, you cook
44:17
them down with sugar. Why the
44:19
baking soda? I've never done that.
44:22
Oh, because the baking soda. Yeah,
44:24
they use it a lot. Yeah.
44:26
How what does it do? I
44:28
wonder, I wonder, I don't know.
44:30
It releases something, I don't know.
44:33
It's like when you're baking, you
44:35
know, like, you use baking sort
44:37
a lot when you're baking, you
44:39
know, you know, so I don't
44:41
know. I think it makes it
44:43
open up the flavor. I just
44:45
wonder whether it's just some chemical
44:47
in it. So then would you
44:49
have that with the yogurt or
44:51
would you just have it on
44:53
its own? So it's kind of like
44:56
a, not a compot, but it's
44:58
just a little blast of. Or
45:00
they'll make like if the guavas,
45:02
guajas are in season, they'll
45:05
make like a jam or like a
45:07
jelly kind of made of guava. And
45:09
you can eat that with like a
45:11
cheese. Oh, nice. But it has a thicker,
45:13
kind of, a thicker, kind of, a
45:15
thicker, a texture, and you just take
45:17
a slice of that, and we call
45:20
it, what's okrema? Okrema Sanjuan, and you
45:22
eat that with like your guava jam.
45:24
Yum. And your coffee is eat, though.
45:26
Isn't it great? That sounds great. But
45:28
usually we don't have our dessert right
45:30
after our meal. You have like your coffee,
45:32
because we drink coffee like six times
45:35
a day. That's probably why you don't
45:37
drink it anymore, baby. You feel due
45:39
to it. I'm done. But like around
45:42
two or whatever, you'll have like
45:44
what you call Mirienda. You call
45:46
like a little snack. And what's
45:48
the, that's the, that's the jam
45:50
with the quesocre mine, all that
45:52
stuff. I love that. That's kind
45:54
of like our afternoon tea, I
45:56
guess. That's how we have been
45:58
Americanized and kind of. where you
46:00
just you've introduced what instant ways
46:02
of cooking so now you have
46:04
the William cubes versus like a
46:07
chicken broth that you made from
46:09
scratch right so we would have soda
46:11
but it was really good and in
46:13
a glass bottle and we always felt
46:15
like grown up kids like drinking soda
46:18
from a glass bottle you know these
46:20
are gluten free chocolate yes are you
46:22
serious they look like brownies yeah they
46:24
look great girls oh my god girls
46:26
what the F mr Do you choose? Oh
46:28
my God. Oh my God. Oh my God.
46:31
You just came out. You heard
46:33
me, right? Girls? Girls. But I'm
46:35
not delicious. They're so good. Money,
46:37
can I take some with me?
46:39
Yes, please. I'm so happy. These
46:42
are wicked, Mom. Do you like
46:44
them? You can do them for
46:46
Passover because they're doing free. But
46:48
it's very sweet. I want to
46:50
know who's going to the Oscars
46:53
with you. Well, it's the whole family
46:55
going because I imagine you moved like
46:57
an amoeba. I'm trying. My mom came
46:59
to the Golden Globes and my sisters
47:02
did too because of Adi and I
47:04
ran this mom because we had lunch
47:06
with them and at one of those
47:08
luncheons, award luncheons and she sat with
47:11
my sisters and she was like, you
47:13
guys have! to go to the globes.
47:15
And then she goes straight to all
47:17
of our publicists. Listen, you gotta get
47:20
her tickets. They have to go to
47:22
the globes. And then my sisters were
47:24
able to go to the globes. I
47:26
love that. Because we never dared it
47:28
asked. We always think it's too much.
47:31
But you know what? Well, why? Oh,
47:33
screw up. So this time I sent
47:35
a list. This baby. Good. And I'm
47:38
like my husband. My husband will be
47:40
my date. Yeah. Because I just. Because
47:42
he's cute. If you ever cheat on
47:44
me, you're dead mate. You know, you
47:47
know, you know, you know, do cycle,
47:49
oh, what's that mean? Do you know,
47:51
matter? Anyway, he loves my top
47:53
to him like that. Oh, I
47:55
just told him, I'm like, I'm
47:57
like, you know how I'm crazy.
48:00
It means cheat on me and you
48:02
did it. Yeah. He'll be tickled by
48:04
this. He'll be like, that's in
48:06
things. So he's gonna be my
48:08
date. But I requested tickets from
48:10
my dad and my mom and
48:12
also for my reps. Like they're
48:14
so, they're the ones that are
48:16
day in and day out on
48:18
this every single day for me
48:20
and so many of me, like
48:22
me. And I just, I want
48:24
to be able to celebrate it
48:26
with them too. Yeah. Are you going to
48:28
do the in and out burger? Stop. No. No.
48:30
I do that every day with my kids. Okay.
48:33
Stop. I think usually to me my favorite thing
48:35
is just chicken tenders and french fries. Yeah. Room
48:37
service because every hotel can master that. And it's
48:39
always good. I didn't. It's chicken tenders. When in
48:41
doubt, if you kind of go on on there,
48:44
oh man, chicken tenders. They won't. They won't. They're
48:46
frozen, they deep fry them, they deep fry them,
48:48
unless they make them, unless they make them, unless
48:50
they make them, unless they make them, unless they
48:53
make them, from french and french scraps, unless they
48:55
make them, unless they make them, Noodles. I have
48:57
a bit of session with noodles. I
48:59
love Asian noodles. And specifically
49:01
I want to have Chinese
49:03
Korean noodles. They're the ones
49:05
in that black bean sauce.
49:07
I want you to wear
49:09
a bib. I'll take off
49:11
the dress. You know what?
49:13
I'll eat it naked. Okay.
49:16
Stummy. I think demi usually
49:18
would eat it naked. Yeah.
49:20
13 nominations. Yes. Is 13
49:22
a record or is it?
49:24
No, no, no. 14 is
49:26
a record. Yeah. Oh, okay.
49:28
You're almost there. Yeah. We're right
49:30
there and a film about women
49:32
in Spanish and opera, a tragedy,
49:35
like everything about it just. I
49:37
adored it. Is aligned with me,
49:40
you know, and I loved it.
49:42
It was a wonderful experience to
49:44
be a part of. It was
49:47
a wonderful challenge that I took
49:49
upon myself and I. I feel proud
49:51
of myself. Usually I'm very hard
49:54
on myself, but I feel proud.
49:56
And then just the reception of
49:58
it has been really... positive. I
50:01
thought you were just completely
50:03
phenomenal. Thank you. Yeah I
50:05
adored you in it and
50:07
it was just a wonderful
50:09
part. Thank you. Thank you
50:12
so much for coming. It's
50:14
been such an honour and
50:16
pleasure. Thank you. You are
50:18
heaven on earth. I can't
50:20
wait to see you. Naked
50:22
with noodles. I'll send you
50:24
a picture. I'll send you
50:27
a picture of the dress
50:29
like laid on a
50:31
chair in my leg.
50:33
Having dinner with Oscar.
50:35
I love it. I'll
50:37
send you a picture
50:39
of my husband. Yeah,
50:41
okay. Sure. Out of
50:44
course. She's so done.
50:46
I love her. She's
50:48
great. She was so
50:50
warm. She was a
50:52
top-notch tableman as guess. She's someone
50:54
you'd want to be your best
50:56
friend. I really loved her. I loved
50:59
her stories. I loved how enthusiastic she
51:01
was about food. I love that she's
51:03
just taken a ziplog of the cookies.
51:05
She wanted the tin. They weren't
51:07
bad though, were they fantastic. Yeah
51:10
they were dirty newsies. She's going
51:12
to need them. She's going to
51:14
keep on talking about Amelia Perez
51:16
for another month. Thank you so
51:18
much to Zoe. You can go
51:20
and watch Amelia Perez on Netflix
51:23
now. Or probably see it in
51:25
the cinema maybe still. I don't
51:27
know. I can't wait to see
51:29
what she does next. Me neither.
51:31
She was fantastic. She was great.
51:33
Absolutely wonderful. I've got a cumim
51:36
seed there. Oh. Oh, it's just come
51:38
out. Great. We'll see you next week.
51:40
Thank you so much for listening.
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