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Scout. Hi, everybody. Look at

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us making intros. Yeah.

2:52

Everybody's like, what's the show about? We're

2:54

like, well, let us tell you. Yeah. Let

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us tell you after

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the 167th episode. We

3:02

finally are trying to like, you

3:04

know, sound a little bit professional.

3:07

It's hilarious. pretty good.

3:09

We've been very good. so. I think so. I think,

3:11

and not professional. I guess structured. Should

3:13

be structured. We have

3:15

a structure. It's just in our head. Yeah.

3:17

Yeah. Where it needs to be. I

3:19

mean, everyone kind of knows what, what

3:21

to expect that's, that listens anyway. And I

3:23

think when they don't know, they're pleasantly

3:25

surprised. Like, holy shit. I didn't think that

3:27

that's what you guys would be talking

3:29

about. No, it's funny though, because I was

3:31

listening to a couple of episodes and

3:33

it is kind of all over the place

3:35

as in like, No episode

3:37

is the same. Like, oh yeah,

3:39

they're gonna talk fucking dirty. That's what

3:42

they do. And then we'll have

3:44

a guess if we're like not, we're

3:46

talking about heartbreaking things or like

3:48

you and I are like talking about

3:50

like suicide prevention. Like it's like

3:52

all over the place. That's like

3:54

a good look into our brains

3:56

though on how we work and I

3:58

think other. sort of creatives

4:00

like get to kind of follow along

4:02

or they just think we're fucking nuts

4:05

and find this entertaining to listen to.

4:07

It's the ADD brain, man. It's,

4:09

it's. I think I might have ADD,

4:11

ADHD, ADHD something. I think I'm, I'm,

4:13

I'm not quite sure. I just assumed it

4:15

was anxiety written, but it might, it might

4:17

very well be, I don't know. I feel

4:19

like everyone's fucking self -diagnosing. I have ADD,

4:21

I have ADHD. It's like, I don't know.

4:23

I don't know what that means anymore. There's

4:25

so many different. you know,

4:28

diagnostics and different things that it

4:30

means and I don't know. I

4:32

think it's very helpful though to

4:34

sort of go figure out and

4:36

get a diagnosis. I mean, it's

4:38

so interesting because I've actually been

4:40

thinking about this too. I

4:42

read somewhere where, I know, is

4:44

it Tallulah? Tallulah, Willis and

4:46

the girl from The Last of

4:49

Us, the main girl, they

4:51

both have sort of come out

4:53

that they've just been diagnosed

4:55

with autism. And like

4:57

that, I could not imagine like,

5:00

you know, living my, I mean, they're all

5:02

like, you know, at least in their

5:04

20s, living that long and being like, I'm

5:06

different, something's going on. And then just

5:08

like, that must be like a breath of

5:10

fresh air. It's like, oh,

5:13

okay, this is what's happening, you

5:15

know? But there's the

5:17

spectrum. So it's like,

5:19

what exactly is on

5:21

this spectrum? It's hundreds

5:24

of different things. And I

5:26

don't know if it's nature,

5:28

nurture, if it's environmental. I

5:30

don't know. I mean, I

5:32

just know that my generation,

5:34

there wasn't a lot of...

5:37

didn't know a lot of people that I grew

5:39

up with that were autistic. I

5:41

didn't know, I just knew my friends had had

5:43

a lot of children that were autistic. So I

5:45

don't know if it was just people weren't talking

5:47

about it or they didn't understand it or there

5:49

wasn't a diagnosis for it. Well, I think it

5:51

was like a lot of shame was behind that

5:53

for some reason. We

5:56

obviously have progressed as

5:58

adults and turning into

6:00

parents over the years

6:02

of like, things are

6:05

okay. You know,

6:07

if you're not completely perfect, like

6:09

things are okay. Now it's

6:11

like, now it's glamorized to

6:13

like have something wrong with

6:15

you. And it's like, talk

6:17

about it, talk about it. You know, now

6:19

it's like overexposed. But I think, I think.

6:22

I think that's at least we're like, you

6:24

know, at that place, I think is as

6:26

good. At least there's like no shame or

6:28

like hidden or like, you know, it's just

6:30

like a, I'm glad we're,

6:32

we're progressing that way, but we

6:34

seem to be progressing like an

6:36

extreme level. Do you think that's

6:38

a woman thing? Like I have

6:40

friends that have autistic kids and

6:42

I wonder how they feel about

6:45

it. I wonder if as a

6:47

woman they feel like, cause I

6:49

worried like, Oh God, that was

6:51

one of my biggest fears being

6:53

pregnant was that my kid would

6:55

have autism or something horribly wrong

6:57

with them that they wouldn't be

6:59

able to function in their life. And

7:02

it's just every parent's fear. I'm sure when you're trying to

7:04

do your best while being pregnant and you're like, I don't

7:06

want to do this. I don't want to eat that. I

7:08

don't want to fuck up my kid. And then when they're

7:10

born, you're like, I don't want to raise them this way.

7:13

I'm raising them wrong if I do it that way. There's

7:15

a lot of pressure. And I think a lot

7:17

of it falls on the mom. And

7:19

I wonder, like, if my friends that are

7:21

moms ever wonder, like, did they ever

7:23

feel guilty or like they maybe did some

7:25

things? Since no one has been able

7:27

to provide a reason why this happens to

7:29

certain children and it doesn't happen to

7:32

others. What is it? You know, is it

7:34

genetics? Is it what we ate when

7:36

we were pregnant? Is it our age? Is

7:38

it the egg? Is it the like,

7:40

what is it? You know, it's

7:42

like you, you know, when your child

7:44

is born and has cancer, it's not

7:46

your fault. And I hope that parents

7:48

feel like if their child autistic or

7:50

on the spectrum or there's something other, other

7:52

wrong that it also isn't your fault.

7:54

I hope that we get to some

7:56

sort of explanation for, for where it

7:59

comes from at some point. I don't,

8:01

I don't think they're going to come

8:03

with an explanation for a very, very long

8:05

time or if ever, I think they're

8:07

starting to find like certain genetic markers

8:09

that are similar in certain. kids that

8:11

have it and I don't know, I

8:13

hope that there's money being spent on

8:15

that research and we can figure out how

8:17

to, you know... That must be very,

8:19

very hard as a parent to know

8:21

that your child is different. That's

8:23

got to be so hard

8:25

and want to be able to

8:27

help them and they obviously

8:29

have to face some journey on

8:32

their own and you can't

8:34

be there all the time to

8:36

protect them. That must be

8:38

so hard and only be able to

8:40

give them the resources that you have.

8:42

And like you said, there's not really

8:44

a massive understanding of, you know, where

8:46

it comes from, how to, you know,

8:48

there's, there's things that you can do

8:50

for your kid, but like that must

8:52

be so hard. You know, it's like

8:54

the ugly baby syndrome, right? It's like,

8:56

is my baby ugly or is it

8:58

not? Is it cute, you know? I'm

9:01

like, parrot. I for sure thought one of my kids,

9:03

yes you do. I for sure thought in the beginning

9:05

that one of my kids was cuter than the other.

9:08

Yeah, which one? Yeah, I'm not going to

9:11

tell you. They're going to hear this

9:13

when they get older. know what? It's because

9:15

one of them was like. was crusty.

9:17

I know that sounds weird, but one of

9:19

my kids had like skin stuff when

9:21

they were born that was like, what the

9:23

fuck is this? You know, like baby

9:25

acne or like weird shit that you're like,

9:28

you can't fix it. You're like, I

9:30

don't bring my kid out. Like

9:32

this is like a Carter thing. Fucking

9:34

weird. Actually, it was not Carter. Was

9:36

it? Carter

9:39

was perfect when he was born, except

9:41

he came out looking just like my

9:43

father -in -law. I was like, oh, God,

9:45

for fucking sake, Jesus Christ, really, of

9:48

all the people for him to come

9:50

out looking like my father -in -law. It was

9:52

weird. I guess as he was the

9:54

older old man, you know, and like chubby

9:56

and looked, I don't know, like that's

9:58

just how my kid came out looking like

10:00

a chubby old man, which was fine,

10:02

but just happened to look like him who

10:04

I despised at the time and still

10:06

do. But anyway, it's so interesting since we

10:08

were talking like baby talk. But, you

10:10

know, a lot of obviously a lot of

10:12

my friends like you and Serena and

10:15

all these other people, like, you know, they've

10:17

been in mom mode for a very,

10:19

very long time. And then there I have

10:21

other friends that are just now starting

10:23

to be in mom world and it's so

10:25

it's it's crazy. It's like as soon

10:27

as like you give birth I

10:30

something shifts in a woman.

10:33

Yeah, it's it's an actual thing. It's

10:35

a wild. And it's like I

10:37

look at these people and I'm like,

10:40

wow, you just like aged five

10:42

years with just like your person, not

10:44

not like your looks, it's like

10:46

your personality looks to your stand, your

10:48

stance on like life, like you

10:50

just look like you just like went

10:52

through a fucking like Star Wars

10:55

like. Yeah, this thing

10:57

that came out of you has

10:59

sucked every bit of your being and

11:01

has forced you now. There's

11:03

scientific studies done where it

11:05

shows how much as mothers

11:07

we give to our unborn

11:09

children and what that takes

11:11

from you and just a

11:13

total rewiring that you can't

11:15

help it. It's not something

11:17

that you can choose to.

11:19

And that's what I think

11:21

when parents don't bond with

11:23

their kids. It's not by

11:25

choice. Your body just does

11:27

it or doesn't do it. You can't really

11:29

control that. I always think,

11:31

because I'm not that parent, that I was

11:33

able to bond with my kids. And

11:36

I feel like, God, you know, I, like

11:38

my uncle, you know, his, he raised his

11:40

two daughters, his, their mom just fucking took

11:42

off. And it's like, I can't even imagine

11:44

as a mom how you could just like

11:46

leave your children or a dad, how you

11:49

can just leave your kids and like not

11:51

talk to them ever. I, even your parents

11:53

as an adult, you know what I mean?

11:55

Like you, you've been there and I only

11:57

saw it through my sister's dad who, who

11:59

had vanished for years and, and didn't have

12:01

a relationship with her. But it's, I, I

12:03

can't understand it. your mom had issues she

12:06

was going through that kept her from doing

12:08

that, you know, and your

12:10

dad, your stuff. I mean, everybody has

12:12

their stuff, but it's not, thank God,

12:14

it's not something that I had to

12:16

endure on either side, either side of

12:18

those things. I mean, obviously, you know,

12:20

it feels like, obviously, when the child

12:22

is older and the parent is, that

12:24

feels like a choice, right? Of

12:26

That feels like a choice. I think the

12:28

feeling, like, I mean, let's

12:30

bring up like, hate and penance

12:33

here. It's like I've heard stories

12:35

and I think that's my fear

12:37

maybe because I have such massive

12:39

fucking abandonment in my world surrounding

12:41

me that like that's my fear

12:43

is like if I wouldn't connect

12:45

with my baby right away because

12:48

that's a that's a thing. a

12:51

thing. That scares me.

12:53

That's like what has

12:55

I think prevented me

12:57

from like not having a

13:01

child up to this point, I

13:03

think, well, obviously, you know, I have,

13:05

like I said, I have a

13:07

lot of things circling around it that

13:09

intensify that feeling, but that's so

13:11

scary to not connect. Yeah,

13:13

I know that's wild. That's wild

13:15

to not be, that's wild. That's

13:18

crazy to think about. I mean, I

13:20

think you just have to do the

13:22

work maybe. I don't even know how

13:24

or what you, what you do to,

13:26

to rewire that, like taking Hayden Penetriar,

13:28

for example, like what what did she

13:31

do or could she have done? Maybe

13:33

that would change the dynamic. She backed

13:35

away. She tried so hard. And then

13:37

she was like, you know what, this

13:39

is not serving my child. Like, of

13:41

course, I wonder what the

13:43

steps are when you're, when you're

13:45

in that place, like when you,

13:47

that must be, you must be

13:49

so, I could not imagine that

13:51

shell that you are enduring and

13:53

are in and that process. Like

13:55

that must be so painful. Or

13:57

maybe it's not. Maybe your

14:00

brain doesn't doesn't process it that

14:02

way. Yeah. Yeah, that's yeah, I'd be

14:04

curious to find out what that

14:06

what that feels like and if there's

14:08

like a cognizant guilt That's carried

14:10

around or if your body doesn't allow

14:12

you to feel that and you're

14:14

just like you don't think about it

14:16

And it's not something that is

14:18

on your radar because of the way

14:20

you're wired. I don't know Yeah,

14:22

is it mind or gut, you know

14:25

So strange, so crazy. I'll look at

14:27

all of our mom talk. They're like,

14:30

OK. See? See? You never know what

14:32

to expect, guys. They're like, we're going

14:34

to talk about fucking an anal. And

14:36

we're like, let's talk about not bonding

14:38

with your child when they're born. Oh,

14:40

but it's like, you know, it's there's

14:42

people out there that are dealing with

14:44

this and are silent about it. And

14:46

I think the more that you listen. I

14:49

have been trusting my gut

14:51

and living in my gut and

14:53

feeling my gut and like

14:56

I've been, I've never been happier

14:58

with the place that I'm

15:00

at right now with how I'm

15:02

forming. I've just been

15:04

so free and I've been

15:06

trusting myself for what feels

15:08

like the first time in

15:10

my life and definitely have

15:12

been like, Saying things into

15:14

the universe and like no

15:17

fear nothing holding me back

15:19

and it's been fucking liberating

15:21

so if you're at all

15:23

out there feeling Like you're

15:25

holding back and you are

15:27

just like pushing things down

15:29

fucking let that fly baby

15:31

It's gonna take time to

15:33

be comfortable and like you

15:35

know, but like it's It's

15:38

so refreshing. It's like I can

15:40

breathe I can stand I was I

15:42

don't know who the fuck I

15:44

was talking to I was having a

15:46

meeting the other day and we

15:48

were sort of getting it Oh, yes,

15:50

Rick Gomez. I reconnected with a

15:53

friend of mine And we're talking about

15:55

business stuff, but then we started

15:57

talking about personal stuff and I was

15:59

like I feel like I can

16:01

Stand on my own two feet like

16:03

I actually feel supported by myself

16:05

not anybody else Not anything else. Just

16:08

me. Like I feel

16:10

taller. I feel like

16:12

it's wild. It's a really

16:14

cool place to be. And

16:16

it took a lot of

16:18

fucking time. Took

16:20

a lot of ups and downs. You're

16:23

creating your foundation, which

16:25

is sturdy and you're doing work on

16:27

yourself, which is making you feel safe.

16:29

working through stuff to help you make

16:31

better, you know, better decisions, which will

16:33

then allows you to trust your gut.

16:35

Because when you're not in a place

16:38

of working on yourself, you can't trust

16:40

yourself because you're all over the place.

16:42

So at least that gives you some

16:44

sort of, of backup, you

16:46

know, Tom's your backup and Kat's your

16:48

sounding board. So you've got, you've

16:50

got those that allow you to then

16:52

it's how I felt when I

16:54

got married. It was the same thing.

16:56

Like, holy shit, I feel like

16:58

normal. Yeah, like good and normal

17:00

like I can kind of just like

17:02

like focus on what I want to do

17:04

for a second and feel like I

17:06

could do that and not be scared to

17:08

because I have nothing to help if

17:11

something falls apart. Yeah, that's great. What have

17:13

you been doing? Take care of it

17:15

yourself. What's your life been like? Oh,

17:17

my life's been crazy. I've done three cons

17:19

this month. So I'm fucking exhausted. What

17:22

happened? I'm not doing like many

17:24

cons this year. Dude, I said I

17:26

would do 10. I said I

17:28

would do 10 this year, and I

17:30

booked them all last year, and

17:32

I had three, I just happened to

17:34

have three this month. And

17:36

now I have a break until I don't

17:38

even have my calendar. I have a break

17:40

until I have one more one day signing

17:43

here at a store. And then I don't

17:45

have any until summertime, like end of summer.

17:47

So it's just, they just all happened to

17:49

be, you know, this month I had North

17:51

Carolina, I had Mad Monster, I

17:53

had Evansville, Hurricane, and I had, I just went to

17:55

Monster Mania, New Jersey. So it's been kind of crazy.

17:57

And You know, I took Carter to one because it

17:59

happened fall on his birthday and I wasn't supposed to

18:01

do that. I was supposed to do it in August

18:03

and they fucked up the date. So it was like

18:05

a week earlier. They were like, Oh no, we promoted

18:07

you for this month. So I had to. It

18:09

was just a lot. So I took

18:11

Carter and both of like two weekends in

18:13

a row, it was, you know, leaving

18:15

at that 5 30 AM flight and then

18:17

getting there and going right to work

18:19

and then coming back Sunday. And unfortunately, you

18:22

know, we have to stay these

18:24

cons on Sunday until three or four

18:26

in order to meet our contractual

18:28

requirements. And because Austin's

18:31

a smaller airport, you

18:33

know, we have to have to make

18:35

connections. So I'm getting on of like

18:37

a couple of weeks ago, I was

18:39

I think I had like a three

18:41

-hour layover in Atlanta that got me

18:43

on like a, you know, 12,

18:45

20 a .m. flight to get back to,

18:47

you know, here at 1 .50 in the

18:49

morning and then I have to drive

18:51

home 45 minutes. It's just too hard on

18:54

a Sunday to do all that stuff

18:56

when I get in on, you know, on

18:58

a Saturday morning or on a Friday

19:00

and go right to the show. So it's

19:02

been, I've been... wrecked like where I

19:04

literally said to David I cannot come home

19:06

on a Sunday anymore unless I land

19:08

before 10 o 'clock. So this time I

19:10

landed at like 1045 so it wasn't that

19:12

bad but it's a lot it's too

19:14

much it's too physically too it's physically too

19:16

much and then like I come home

19:18

and I'm doing all of this shit during

19:20

the week you know so We're

19:22

doing other business stuff, and I'm writing my

19:25

book, and there's like 800 things going on. I've

19:27

got two new agents. I've got a new

19:29

voiceover agent. I've got a new theatrical agent. I

19:31

had a self -tape. It was spring break

19:33

this week. The kids are home, so

19:36

we went camping for three days, and I

19:38

had self -tapes. I had fucking voiceovers, and

19:40

I've got three self -tapes to do this

19:42

weekend. It's just

19:44

like, holy crap, there's a lot of, there's

19:46

just a lot of things going on.

19:48

So trying to kind of keep my head

19:50

straight. And the kids started football. So

19:52

I've got Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

19:54

Friday, they're in football because I've got

19:56

Jaggers Tuesday, Carter's Monday, Thursday, Jaggers

19:58

Tuesday, Wednesday, and they both have games

20:00

on Friday. So it

20:02

looks like my week is just

20:04

slammed and then we're banking

20:06

our episodes. So it's just, there's

20:08

like no. no sleep till

20:10

Brooklyn. Man, now

20:13

I know why that song was

20:15

created. Yeah, exactly. Now I

20:17

know why it was created for the

20:19

busy peeps, for the busy folks. Fucking

20:21

nuts and trying to do, you know,

20:23

coordinate our lives that we're doing. And

20:25

then I've got to start to work

20:27

on merch and gift stuff and bags

20:29

and all that stuff and promo flyers

20:31

been asking for. And then, you know,

20:33

our film stuff. Just

20:35

doing, I went to South by Southwest and

20:37

had a bunch of, you know, awesome

20:40

conversations and meetings up there and did my

20:42

rounds over at Shutter and IFC and

20:44

met a bunch of people that I haven't

20:46

seen in a million years since I

20:48

did the film circuit and just trying to

20:50

reconnect with everybody, you know, that I

20:52

haven't talked to in a long time to

20:54

try to see if those relationships are

20:56

still there. And thank God they are. So

20:58

I was able to, you know, to

21:00

contact a lot of my overseas connections. because

21:02

it obviously would be great to do

21:04

stitches and to do that whole European tour.

21:06

And so, yeah, so even though we're

21:08

only doing 10 conventions this year, God knows

21:10

what that's going to look like when

21:12

the festival circuit starts. It was

21:14

different when I was and I didn't have

21:16

kids. Like I, I spent, you know,

21:18

a month in Europe just traveling around with

21:20

the movie and doing all of the

21:22

festivals. And I don't, I don't have, I

21:24

can't take a month. Neither one of

21:26

us can take a month and just like.

21:28

Yeah, we're just gonna go and live

21:30

in Europe for a month and and travel

21:32

from this country to this country to

21:34

this country because we're already there So yeah,

21:36

we'll see how that's gonna play out,

21:38

but we'll do the best we can. How

21:40

is the concert get been? Have you

21:42

noticed that? Down keep on shifting a yeah.

21:44

Yeah, it's down. Oh, yeah, it's it's

21:46

very different. Mm -hmm people are scared, you

21:48

know to spend any money and and Unfortunately,

21:50

there's you know, there's these there's really

21:52

big headliners at these shows now. So You

21:55

know, I was at Monster Mania and we

21:57

have Susan Sarandon and Gina Davis that are

21:59

there and Tobin Bell and Sean E. Smith

22:01

and they've got their movie coming out this

22:03

year and, you know, and they're still terrifying.

22:05

There's still people that are coming to get

22:07

terrifying and stuff. So everyone is in a

22:09

separate. Yeah, separate area. And even though I'm

22:11

sitting with Gina Davis and I'm sitting with

22:13

Eli Roth and I'm sitting with all of

22:15

these, you know, big guys, the room's fairly

22:17

empty. So it's a different thing. It definitely

22:19

made me go like, I don't know if

22:21

I want to do conventions for a couple

22:23

of years. Like I may take the book

22:25

and the documentary and our movie and I

22:27

may just take next year and the year

22:29

off and and just focus on film stuff

22:32

and things that I want to do. And

22:34

I don't know, it's hard because then you're

22:36

like, well, you want to promote it, you

22:38

want to get out and talk about it.

22:41

So it's hard to, like I showed Eli

22:43

our trailer, you know, like I want

22:45

to be able to keep those connections and

22:47

I can only really do that if

22:49

we're in front of everybody, get the fans

22:51

talking and get them excited about stuff.

22:53

And we have to. Boots on the ground

22:55

is really the way that it works. in

22:58

our world. So, oh my God, when you called me

23:00

the other day, I'm so glad I didn't answer the

23:02

phone naked, by the way, when you FaceTime me from

23:05

set. Like I normally

23:07

would, because I did not expect to see a

23:09

stranger on the phone that I was like,

23:11

what is going on? All I know is I

23:13

thought it was an emergency. First, I thought,

23:15

oh, God, did I do something wrong? That was

23:17

the first thing in mind trouble for something.

23:19

And then I thought, oh, God, I wonder if,

23:21

you know, who was asking for our address

23:23

recently. And I was like, oh, I wonder if

23:25

whatever that was came to you. And you

23:27

were like, FaceTiming right now.

23:29

It's an emergency. I put a

23:32

happy face. You

23:34

didn't. Yes, I did. I put a

23:36

happy face. did. Oh, the

23:38

emojis. Wait, let me look. sure I put an emoji. Wait

23:41

a minute. Hold on. I usually do do that,

23:43

right? I usually put an emoji. I

23:45

don't I always end up putting emojis

23:47

after any message because I'm just like, ugh,

23:50

a happy face. Just so you know. No,

23:52

you did. Oh, you did. But

23:54

it was an emoji. It was the

23:57

two dots and the thing. Yeah. It's

23:59

a face tiny, please. Yeah. Exclamation,

24:02

exclamation. Yeah. Oh,

24:05

that just because I was in the

24:07

makeup trailer and I was like, I

24:09

was like, oh, God, oh, God, oh,

24:11

God, oh, God. Oh, yeah. No, I

24:13

can see. Trust me. I got I

24:15

got this message yesterday. It's this morning.

24:18

It's funny, man. I

24:20

don't know how it's

24:22

I don't know how

24:24

people. At the

24:26

moment, I'm sort of dealing with

24:28

a message that I got

24:30

that was not from a friend,

24:32

but it was not like

24:34

a friend also that I'm working

24:36

with. So it was not

24:38

like, it was very a gaslighting

24:40

message. And

24:42

I'm just like, what you mean?

24:44

People have to be super

24:46

careful with like, if you're going

24:48

to talk like business, especially, and

24:51

it's business sense of like,

24:53

uh -oh. I think you

24:55

should just call somebody rather than

24:57

send a message. Did

25:01

it make you

25:03

panic? Well,

25:05

it was a message of a

25:07

project that has been in the

25:09

back burner and I've been attached

25:12

for a couple of years. You

25:15

know, it's this person's baby and I've

25:18

been very responsive of like this is what

25:20

we're doing This is what this is

25:22

where we're going. This is the energy shift

25:24

and I've sort of been like, okay,

25:26

cool Whatever we need to do, you know,

25:28

like that sort of yeah, we deal

25:30

that with that as actors being attached to

25:32

something and being like what's happening? You

25:34

know, so it was that work and I've

25:36

been working to try to like not

25:38

have that energy in my life because I

25:40

just We've been there done this like

25:42

there's no point of having that energy And

25:45

so this morning was like,

25:48

it was kind of like this thing that you've

25:50

been attached to for a while. Hey,

25:52

I've got another offer with money. I'm

25:54

going to go take it. And

25:56

I was like, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait, whoa. What

25:59

do you mean? like

26:02

I was set to like direct this thing.

26:04

Oh, oh, oh. And then, you know, like,

26:06

but that's been on like the, like I've

26:08

just have not figured out what's going on

26:10

with that. I've been very patient and like,

26:12

I'm like, okay, cool. I've got other things

26:14

going on, you know, and it's been a

26:17

couple year thing and it's a friend. So

26:19

I'm like super supportive and I'm just like,

26:21

want to like have them succeed. And then

26:23

it was. So they found money from somebody

26:25

else and they have to go with their

26:27

team. no they were just like we I

26:29

just got approached from this director who has

26:31

money and I'll keep you informed pretty much

26:33

is what it was and I was like

26:35

whoa whoa whoa I think something that I've

26:37

been attached to for a couple of years

26:39

especially as a friend I think you should

26:41

have like given me a phone call and

26:44

not not yeah yeah right like like I

26:46

would never have done that to you like

26:48

any any of my friends I would never

26:50

have been like Like, and I

26:52

move it, I might move on. Yeah. Just

26:54

letting you know. Like, if that's what, if

26:56

that's where you're at, you know, and then

26:58

it, and then it started becoming these messages

27:00

of pretty much like stating like, well, I

27:03

thought, I thought you didn't really care about

27:05

this and like all that. And I'm like,

27:07

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I was

27:09

like, some stuff was miscommunicated to me. I

27:11

was like, if you needed me to like.

27:13

put this together. That's what I'm

27:15

doing on a lot of things. Trust

27:18

me, I've got a lot

27:20

of projects that I'm putting together.

27:23

Trust me. Danielle

27:25

and I just did, we can fucking

27:27

do that. But that was never brought to

27:29

me. was more of you're a

27:31

director for hire, this is what I'm gonna

27:34

do, I'm a producer, this is what I've got. So

27:36

that conversation was never... you know, and

27:39

now the person's like trying to be like,

27:41

I'm so like, if I never, I

27:43

was like, that was never clear. Trust

27:45

me, if I needed to wear multiple hats, I can

27:47

put on the second multiple house. you do work on

27:49

the script? Oh, yeah. Oh,

27:53

yeah. Oh, yeah. And it's a friend,

27:55

you know, like it's a, it's a friend. So

27:58

it's, it's, I just said the other day, what

28:00

did I say the other day? Yeah,

28:02

it's like, you know, another project that

28:04

I'm on right now. But it's good.

28:06

It's good to have these talks and

28:08

it's good to like be like, hey,

28:10

actually that's not okay. Like

28:12

actually not okay. You

28:15

know, old scout would have

28:17

been like, okay, bye. You

28:19

know, and now I'm like, mm, that's,

28:21

this is not okay. Like I needed.

28:23

Super disappointing. Yeah. I need to actually

28:25

voice how I'm feeling and not push

28:27

it down in my gut. And

28:29

I need to like surface it to it

28:31

may not be what you want to hear,

28:34

but like this is not what how this

28:36

should have gone. And I sort of did

28:38

that on another project and we hashed it

28:40

out. And it was really great because we

28:42

both were, you know, able. But it's like

28:44

it's this big, big, big, big woman talk.

28:46

So you have to have, you know, you

28:48

find your voice. It's like, you know, you

28:50

do it a lot. And that's what I

28:52

really admire about you is like you're able

28:54

to be like, that's not cool. Let's like

28:57

figure this out. Yeah. You know. So

28:59

both parties are on the

29:01

same page. You always just want

29:03

to be on the same

29:05

page. Maybe you have to better

29:07

define your friendships from work

29:09

friendships to actual friendships, because I

29:11

think you get confused. Oh,

29:13

yeah. Or people who

29:15

you consider your friends from an

29:18

outsider's perspective. That's actually not a

29:20

friend. That's someone that you know

29:22

through the business. Yeah. Oh, 100%.

29:24

That was literally a conversation I

29:26

had with Tom. I was like, you

29:28

know what? I just want friends that are

29:30

not in the business. I love working

29:32

with friends. be good for you. I

29:34

love all of that, but I just really

29:36

kind of want people that are not

29:38

in this business at all. It's really hard

29:40

to find out here. to have them

29:42

in the business, but don't talk about the

29:44

business with them. Yeah, but it's, it's

29:47

hard to find, it's hard to find that

29:49

out here. That's partially like a lot

29:51

of the reason why I wanted to move.

29:54

I was like, I just want

29:56

to be somewhere where this industry

29:58

is not so like invested in, you

30:01

know, I just want like a breath of

30:03

fresh air when I come home. And I'm

30:05

like, I a lot of friends in the

30:07

business, but I don't think we ever talked

30:09

about anything we're working on or we never

30:11

worked. We never did projects together because they

30:13

were just my friends, but. but also for

30:15

many, many years. So it was like,

30:18

it's different now than meeting people

30:20

through the business, on sets,

30:22

and as an adult. It's

30:24

different. It's very, very different. people in.

30:26

All my friends that are friends were from

30:29

20 years ago or whatever. Especially

30:31

now. Man, I've

30:33

been having insane meetings

30:35

with people. with

30:37

people that I have

30:40

like completely admired. And yeah,

30:42

we're like forming a

30:44

friendship, but we're also like

30:46

working together. So it's

30:48

forming a relationship, not a

30:50

friendship yet. It's very

30:52

strange. a balance. a

30:54

balance. It's definitely a balance. I

30:56

mean, it's good. It's all good. It's just

30:58

like, you know, get to know someone. before

31:01

they become your friend, if you're

31:04

doing working with them. Because I

31:06

think once you allow them in

31:08

to be friends with you, boundaries

31:10

get confusing and then work relationships

31:12

start to suffer. So you have

31:14

to make a choice between that

31:16

or that. And if you're gonna

31:19

work with them as your friend,

31:21

then you have to wait some

31:23

time before you make that decision.

31:25

Well, I think this is, I

31:27

think these partnerships or relationships are...

31:29

they're just coming at me pretty

31:32

quickly. Yeah. It's pretty wild. It's

31:34

great. It's good. But it's just

31:36

like, whoa, okay. You

31:38

know, I'm gonna nurture this.

31:40

Slowly. I definitely never wanted

31:42

to have the producer hat on. I don't

31:44

really like the producer hat, but you

31:46

know, that's how independent

31:48

filmmaking gets done. You have to,

31:50

you have to like have that

31:53

hat on. You can't just be

31:55

a fucking director. You can't

31:57

just be an actor. Movies

31:59

are happening so little and little and

32:01

little and little. Yeah, not at

32:03

this pace. Yeah, it's it's it's

32:05

very it's a very wild wild

32:07

west out there. It's crazy. Yeah.

32:09

It's not like what I thought

32:11

it was, but it's also brought

32:13

brought in like at least a

32:16

confidence with me, especially with like

32:18

having these talks with people because

32:20

everyone's just trying to fucking figure

32:22

it out. Don't come

32:24

at me and bullshit me with things. I

32:26

know how things are going. You

32:28

have actually no idea

32:31

what's happening. Right, right.

32:33

So it's been very refreshing where I'm

32:35

like, okay. You can

32:37

go fucking make a movie. This is crazy. Let's

32:39

fucking make a cut to it. This is stupid. Let's

32:41

go make a movie over here. I don't want to get

32:43

in this mess. I'll go make a movie over here.

32:46

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32:48

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34:11

can't wait to see Seth Rogan's

34:13

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34:16

it's gonna be fun. That's

34:18

like a slam dunk. Oh,

34:20

fuck yeah. That is a slam dunk.

34:23

It's so true. mean, that's why I

34:25

love like Project Greenlight. You know, I

34:27

mean, I loved anything about making it

34:29

in Hollywood. I love to, I feel

34:31

like I don't, I don't, I'm learning

34:33

something yet. I should know, but like

34:35

I'm educating myself on stuff that I'm

34:38

familiar with. So I feel confident watching

34:40

it. But I, oh, you know what

34:42

I started this week? I saw it on the airplane. It's

34:44

so fucking good. The only time

34:46

I ever get to watch anything is on the airplane, and

34:49

especially just stealing some of

34:51

that, I have fucking quiet to

34:53

sit and watch. So I

34:55

watched Presumed Innocent with Jake Gyllenhaal

34:57

and Peter Skarsgard, and

34:59

it's on Apple.

35:02

And it was last year, I think mid, mid

35:04

last year, and they had done a, I

35:06

think Harrison Ford did a feature on it. It's

35:08

based off of a novel. I'm on episode

35:10

five and I finally got David hooked on it

35:13

when we were camping. I was like, I'm

35:15

so tired, I have to go to sleep, but

35:17

you need to watch the first three episodes

35:19

while I sleep so you can get caught up

35:21

to where I am. So then when we

35:23

get home, we can actually watch one episode before

35:25

we go to bed. Cause I never, it's

35:27

been since the first season of True Detective that

35:29

I actually felt, well, the staircase too, that

35:31

I felt like, addicted to a TV show and

35:34

fucking Jake Gyllenhaal's just so good and him

35:36

and Peter Skarsgard in knowing like Peter's married to

35:38

his sister and like what that dynamic must

35:40

be and oh my god it's just so good

35:42

so if you haven't watched it or you

35:44

want to watch some really good yes presumed innocent

35:46

I love those murder mysteries where you're where

35:48

you really don't know who did it you really

35:50

don't know if who you're

35:53

watching is the killer. I keep

35:55

changing my mind. Yeah, that's cool.

35:57

It's just so fucking well -acted. I

35:59

was talking about this with my

36:01

sister, because she loves procedural shows,

36:03

and she's addicted to the show

36:05

that Tom's on, The Pit. Oh,

36:07

The Pit. But she's also

36:09

worked in the medical field, so she was

36:11

just saying, oh my god, oh my god,

36:13

oh my god, I have to watch it,

36:15

I have to watch it, it's so good.

36:17

And I was saying, I can't get into

36:19

those shows. I don't know why, and I

36:21

was talking to my new agents about the

36:23

conversation you and I had had recently about

36:25

going back to acting class to understand how

36:27

to act for television and how it's just

36:29

different. And I think the reason why I

36:32

get obsessed with these cable streaming shows is

36:34

because they're film actors. And I feel like

36:36

I'm watching a 10 hour movie with really

36:38

good actors and a really good story. And

36:40

I'm getting every single bit of it out

36:42

of it. So I love those shows. I

36:44

have a hard time watching any show like

36:46

a Grey's Anatomy or like anything that's just

36:48

on I don't know, like

36:50

it's just a different way of

36:52

just a different type of acting. It

36:55

doesn't resonate with me. It doesn't catch me

36:57

as much, maybe. I don't know. I don't know

36:59

what it is, why I can't. why? Because

37:01

it's, you know, I think those shows and why

37:03

I'm trying to like dissect like television acting,

37:05

I just saw, I was just watching a show

37:07

and one of the scenes that I taped

37:10

for came on and I was like, huh? I

37:12

was like, wait a minute, let me see.

37:14

You're gonna watch how they did it, yeah. Let

37:16

me see who this was. It's

37:19

very normal. It's

37:22

very normal. It's

37:24

like real life

37:27

normal. And

37:29

real life, like we choose

37:31

to watch TV to escape, you

37:33

know? So it's just like

37:35

you and I were to have

37:37

like a conversation. And

37:40

it's so like, that's

37:42

not why I watch cinema. Yeah, like that's

37:44

not why I watch cinema. I watch cinema. Yeah,

37:48

so I think that's what now the

37:50

pit is very much that it's it's

37:52

like I mean, I was talking to

37:54

a lot of the the SWAT people

37:56

about it and they were like That's

37:58

that's exactly like I came from the

38:00

medical field. That's exactly how it is.

38:02

That's what she says. She's like this

38:04

is like my life But but it's

38:06

to any outsider. I mean, yeah, there's

38:08

exciting things happening every once in a

38:10

while, but man it just brings

38:12

you back to the level of like oh

38:15

god you're going to work you're going through

38:17

this bullshit here like it's just normal right

38:19

right just like it's a note that's just

38:21

like real life and i'm like oh i

38:23

don't understand i to live in that i

38:25

don't want to live in that That's not

38:27

our life. And I'm so uninterested in that.

38:29

don't to live in that real life. That's

38:32

why I want to watch Seth Rogen's show. That's

38:34

what I want. That's the fucking circus

38:36

I want to be involved in. That's what

38:39

it is. And if you can think

38:41

of that when you audition for these things,

38:43

if you can just be like, I'm

38:45

just going to be as normal as possible.

38:47

That's it. So let's not just normal. Yeah,

38:50

just normal like I'm just like I

38:52

put myself trying to get through life

38:54

We're trying to get through life like

38:56

fucking shit like like literally how you're

38:58

explaining your shit's going like that's what

39:00

that person's also thinking I'm having this

39:02

conversation with you But I also have

39:04

a lot of other shit that I'm

39:06

having to deal with and I'm exhausted

39:08

and like what do we need? What

39:10

do you need? What's happening? It's gonna

39:12

have you coach me. Yeah, I love

39:14

it I love it me and coach

39:16

me for that I will I do

39:18

I will because like I will like

39:20

that that's I've I've Maybe it's also

39:22

being on the other side that I'm

39:25

actually like in these conversations and hearing

39:27

these things and like it's, it's wild.

39:29

Dude, even me being, I don't know if

39:31

I said this to you, even me being

39:33

on SWAT and going in and doing a

39:35

guest star role. I, like,

39:37

that energy of, like, acting,

39:40

I wasn't feeling. I was,

39:42

like, I was, like, oh,

39:44

God, I'd rather just go, like, be

39:46

doing all these other things that I

39:48

was doing, because those are, like, my

39:50

energy and my wavelengths right now rather

39:52

doing. But what if you were to

39:54

do a show, like, when you watched

39:56

Presumed Innocent, what if you were to

39:58

do a show like that opposite Jake,

40:01

like the woman who plays his wife?

40:03

Oh, The yeah, if I was given those

40:05

opportunities, fuck yeah. That's what

40:07

I want to do. Dude, I did

40:10

love, it was a female director.

40:12

I loved it. I loved being able

40:14

to watch her. What

40:16

was her name? There's

40:18

not a lot of female TV

40:21

directors. I mean, there are now.

40:23

And she comes from, I

40:26

was trying to figure out

40:29

where she came from, but she

40:31

got the May. She

40:33

got the... to

40:35

do Hawaii 5 .0

40:37

when it first

40:40

started. And they,

40:42

they were like a, it was like

40:44

a growing TV show and they decided

40:47

to do it with her. And so

40:49

she was very much in the world

40:51

of like. The man.

40:54

The man. Yeah. Yeah.

40:56

The man. That's a very, that's a very. being

40:58

able to be taught. Yeah,

41:00

hot to do action and all this

41:02

stuff. Yeah, like that's why you know

41:04

what I was thinking too. It's like

41:06

It's this crew set. It's not this

41:08

fucking director that came in. It's this

41:10

crew and it's like if you can't

41:12

never the director on TV Yeah, if

41:14

you can't come in and like find

41:17

your voice Yeah. We ain't going to

41:19

take you serious. And I was seeing

41:21

that the entire it was wild. with

41:24

men too. Men too. Men directors on

41:26

TV, but probably a little more with

41:28

women. A hundred percent. But it was

41:30

just really, really cool to to to

41:32

see that sort of, you know, thing.

41:34

But let me let me see her

41:36

last name for the last day. Maya.

41:40

Oh, gosh, V. R. V. I.

41:42

L. O. You're way better at

41:45

pronouncing stuff. Verveo. Yeah.

41:48

She was she was really cool and

41:50

and you know and I every

41:52

time I was doing a scene She

41:54

just like would come out and

41:56

she's like you're so good Thanks, thanks.

41:59

I was like you're like I'm an actress I

42:01

was like this is just like I don't even

42:03

I'm just boning it in what do you think?

42:05

Yeah, literally I was like I was like I'm

42:07

more interested in what you're doing Yeah, I like

42:09

want to follow you around and see what you're

42:11

doing. I like I was and I was and

42:13

she was so sweet She was just like, yeah,

42:15

I was like, I admire you. This is so

42:17

inspiring. This is what I'm trying to do. And

42:21

she was taking the time to talk to

42:23

me about stuff. And it was really, really cool.

42:25

And she was like, do you want to

42:27

come see this? And I was like, yeah, I

42:29

want to come see this. What are you

42:31

doing? There was one thing that I was like,

42:33

are they really asking me to do this

42:35

right now? There's

42:37

a semi truck that's

42:39

driving down the street.

42:42

And I'm just supposed to take my cue and run

42:44

in front of it much. Run in front of

42:46

it. No. Oh,

42:50

yeah. Oh, yeah. And they're just going

42:52

to stop short? Is

42:55

there like a sandbag? No.

42:58

There was a crack in the street,

43:00

a crack in the street that he

43:02

was going to hit. But there was

43:04

take after take where I had to

43:06

scoot back. To scoot back, yeah. So

43:08

it wouldn't fucking hit me. And

43:12

any sub -coordinator come talk to you or anything?

43:14

yeah, of course. And then I was like, yeah,

43:16

my dudes is, you know, a stunt man. And

43:18

then they're like, oh, Tom, oh, yeah, fucking love

43:20

Tom. They're like, yeah, so

43:22

you know what to do. Yeah, just just I'm like,

43:24

whoa, that doesn't mean I know what to do. Like,

43:26

right, right. I don't want to

43:29

get hit. to tell me. I've even

43:31

told Tom this. So he would be

43:33

so upset. He'd be so upset. But

43:35

I just remember seeing the actors that

43:37

I had not been introduced. too

43:39

yet in this scene. I

43:41

remember seeing them watching me. I was like, who

43:44

are these kids? Whatever. And then I finally, we

43:46

get into the juice of the scene after I do

43:48

this stunt. And they're like,

43:50

oh, are you like also a stunt

43:52

girl? And I'm like, no, no.

43:54

I'm an actress and you just had

43:56

me do a stunt where I

43:58

could have died. Dude, this is how

44:00

it happened. But

44:02

she goes, she goes, OK, come over here.

44:04

And she's like, the semi -truck is here. And

44:06

like, let's like kind of, while it's parked, let's

44:09

like put you in the distance that I

44:11

want you so the camera can see you. So

44:13

that was my gauge. So

44:15

you hit your mark and just hope

44:18

that the semi stops. I just had to

44:20

run and sort of figure out and

44:22

time it and then like back up and

44:24

be close enough that they fucking think

44:26

it's. So I

44:28

just literally was like, wow. Danielle

44:31

and I can make movies. This is

44:33

crazy. That's crazy. What's happening? I was like,

44:35

this is like a big show. Like,

44:37

this is a big show. There's

44:39

so many fucking people. Dude.

44:43

I just had one guy who, and what

44:45

was the stunt guy? The stunt guy said, you

44:48

know, and I just was like, well, what, like,

44:50

you know, what if like, whatever, like, what, what do

44:52

I, what would you suggest that I do? And

44:54

he's like, just keep running. Like,

44:56

just, just don't stop and just

44:58

keep running. If it

45:00

doesn't stop, just keep running. Oh,

45:03

God. OK. Could you imagine

45:05

saying that to Heather? No,

45:07

camp or no. Or you,

45:10

Danielle, just keep running. Me

45:12

directing you and bring the law. Danielle, just

45:14

keep running. Just just keep just

45:17

keep just just continue to run if it's

45:19

going to hit you. Oh, my God. And

45:22

we just go, okay, especially on that too. What

45:24

are you gonna do? What are you gonna say,

45:26

no? You're a guest on their

45:28

show. You're gonna be like, I'm not doing

45:30

this, I need a double. Are you kidding? They'll

45:32

be like, this girl's never gonna be hired

45:35

again for a show on our network, ever. Producers

45:37

will never hire you again if you don't

45:39

wanna risk your life for your guest star. So

45:41

funny, it's so funny. I was just like,

45:43

what is happening? Oh, okay,

45:45

and it's raining too. I'm like,

45:47

okay. Fantastic.

45:51

With my little umbrella. This

45:53

is how I die. Holding the umbrella

45:55

for me. This is how I die. like,

45:57

good luck. I'm like, OK. This

46:00

is how I die. Amazing. I

46:03

was like, should we just do a take?

46:05

I was like, no, can we test this

46:07

out first? Just to see what's happening. They're

46:09

afraid. They're afraid that they don't want to rehearse

46:11

it. Because you'll be like, I don't know if I'm

46:13

comfortable doing this. Oh

46:16

my God. I'm not surprised. I

46:18

drove all the way to Santa Clarita. This is my only

46:20

scene of the day to do this. Great.

46:23

Dude, they have a sound stage out

46:25

in Santa Clarita. Have you ever been to

46:27

that one? Yeah. Oh, I never have. It's

46:29

awesome. I forget what they did

46:31

there. They had two pretty big shows that

46:33

used to film there. Mayans was there, and

46:35

Animal Kingdom were there. This was

46:37

before, this was years ago, when I was

46:39

still driving to audition. It's like it

46:41

goes town, dude. Yeah, I'm sure. Now

46:44

it's really a ghost town. Yeah,

46:46

nothing films in LA anymore. Yeah,

46:48

it's it's it's really, really sad.

46:50

I was listening to some actors

46:52

talk about, you know, Radford Studios

46:54

and they're like, there's no one

46:56

here. No one here. Water

46:58

Brothers seems to be the only one, but

47:00

that's like got three shows. Right.

47:03

God, that's it. That's crazy. It's

47:07

it's because Connors is still

47:09

Connors is on Radford. Rosanna had

47:11

always been there. God,

47:14

I don't know. I

47:16

don't know what's there. That's my

47:18

favorite studio. They make it hard here.

47:20

It's too expensive. You know, I

47:22

was talking to aunt about it last

47:24

night and you know, he sent

47:26

me an article and he's just like,

47:28

I'm so hope I hold on

47:30

to hope that the industry comes back

47:32

here. I'm like, I don't. I

47:34

was like, I don't. They've never made

47:36

it easy for actors or producers

47:38

or directors to work here and there's

47:40

no tax incentive here. Like that's

47:42

insane. No, you spend waste all your

47:44

money. You're wasting all your money. All

47:47

your money. Why would you choose to film

47:49

there when you can go somewhere else and

47:51

get 40 % of your fucking money back?

47:53

And also, people don't care about filmmaking here. No.

47:57

Nobody cares about it. It's an annoyance. When

47:59

are you moving? What is happening? What is

48:01

going on? Wait, Tom's gone. Tom, I know.

48:03

Now you just sit there and wait. I'm

48:07

working on my own stuff. He's gone.

48:09

And then as soon as he comes

48:11

here, I leave to go to my

48:13

thing. In Tampa. Yeah. This

48:15

is, and then straight to, and

48:17

then straight to, and then possibly straight

48:19

to something else. So it's like,

48:21

it's like, this is like, this

48:24

is where I, you know, have the conversation

48:26

where I'm like, you kind of just need

48:28

to fucking hire someone to, put it together

48:30

and move it for you because I can't

48:33

like this is going to be another year

48:35

of sitting here going well you can do

48:37

is while you're home you can start going

48:39

and purging I have actually I have get

48:41

rid of shit and start boxing up the

48:43

little time that I have right now I

48:45

have no I have what that's what we

48:47

were kind of starting to do I already

48:49

do the living room I did the dining

48:52

room I also you know Tom is have

48:54

this bit he listens to all our episodes

48:56

by the way like as soon as they

48:58

they come out Tom Tom If

49:00

it doesn't sell on all your

49:02

websites that you're putting things on,

49:05

it's not gonna sell. It's not gonna

49:07

sell. I have an idea for you. Just throw

49:09

it This works great. This is what I do

49:11

David. Like our dining room table. I'm like, get

49:13

the fuck out of here. Get out of here.

49:15

This is what I do. The thing is, go

49:17

on Facebook Marketplace. Yeah, that's his favorite place. all

49:19

of the shit, mind you, look at all of

49:21

the shit that's for sale and how much they're

49:23

asking. Like I have jaggers,

49:25

bunk beds, right? They're three years

49:27

old. I paid $3 ,000 like a fucking

49:29

idiot at pottery barn kids for them.

49:31

Yeah, stupid, right? When he

49:33

wanted, I was like, whatever, I'd never bought anything for

49:36

him. Everything's always hand me downs for Jacker. It

49:38

comes from Brody and my nephew to Carter to Jacker.

49:40

So I'm like, let him get his goddamn fucking

49:42

high bed that he wanted. I want a high bed,

49:44

I want a high bed, buy it, good, had

49:46

it. He never liked it, of course.

49:48

So now I have the fucking bunk beds in

49:50

the room with a queen size bed. It's

49:52

got the bunk beds against the window with

49:54

a queen size bed that he actually loves because

49:56

he wants a big boy bed. That's my

49:59

thing. Like I was selling stuff on Depop and

50:01

stuff and like when it hits a limit. And

50:03

it's not selling. Goodwill. Bye -bye. Bye -bye.

50:05

So what I do is, same with my

50:07

wedding dress, it's not selling. Oh,

50:09

the way, it's sitting in the, So get it, just

50:11

fucking give it to Goodwill. You know where it is

50:13

right now? It's sitting in my office bathroom because I

50:16

have to take it out of the attic. I have

50:18

someone fucking enjoy it because it's not selling. Wait, you

50:20

want me to get rid of it or not send

50:22

it to you? No, no, this girl fell through. I'm

50:24

like, I can't, I can't. This is it,

50:26

like, bye. It's like,

50:28

it's okay, bye. But you could put

50:30

it on Facebook marketplace for $500

50:32

I did I tried no one is

50:34

I'm like what the fuck I'm

50:36

like no one wants this. I've lowered

50:39

this dress down. It's such a

50:41

good dress I'm like is nobody want

50:43

this thing, you know, I'll take

50:45

a picture I'll do a little video

50:47

holding it. Okay. I have all

50:49

the videos for you. Yeah, but if

50:51

it's like If you're holding it

50:53

near, it's, you know, maybe, I don't

50:55

know. But what I do is

50:57

I a really cute thing, like 360,

51:00

showed the detail, like everything. Tom, if

51:02

you're listening, Scout, set a date

51:04

for Good Will Pick Up or whatever

51:06

charity you guys like to work with.

51:08

you know habitat for humanity or or

51:10

you know any of those of those

51:12

will come pick up so set it

51:15

for a month out set it for

51:17

30 days like we have 30 days

51:19

to sell the stuff like your dining

51:21

room table or whatever it is that

51:23

you want to sell big stuff because

51:25

they're going to want to know and

51:28

then. If it doesn't sell within the

51:30

30 days, it goes. I look on

51:32

Marketplace, I'm like, okay, I can't actually

51:34

sell this $3 ,000 bunk bed for

51:36

$2 ,000, even though it's worth $3 ,000

51:38

because it's two and a half years

51:40

old. Oh shit, they're listing them for

51:43

$1 ,000. Like why would I

51:45

pay $2 ,000 for mine if I should have just

51:47

bought it from somebody else on there, but I didn't

51:49

want poor David to have to go fucking take

51:51

it apart and bring it over and put it back

51:53

together. I'm like, let me just get it delivered

51:55

by a furniture company so he doesn't have to deal

51:57

with one more thing on his list that I'm

51:59

making him do. Yeah, but so now I'm just gonna

52:01

sell it for like 1500 bucks and I've got

52:03

the mattresses and I've got cute sheets from pottery worn

52:05

kids that are included but it's like I'm gonna

52:08

put it up for you know for a month and

52:10

if it doesn't sell it's just gonna get donated

52:12

and I'll just take the ride off you know God

52:14

knows we need it I know we also don't

52:16

really we don't really have at least like I you

52:18

know you know me I've lived like a fucking

52:20

gypsy my entire life yeah yeah I don't have things

52:23

All this furniture, all this stuff, the

52:25

only thing that I have is

52:27

we made this bed together. I

52:30

could pack up my stuff

52:32

real quick. And you also

52:34

only want to, taking stuff

52:36

across the country costs a

52:39

lot of money. Yeah, our

52:41

cars, whatever we

52:43

can pack into our cars, that's what we

52:45

take to our new life. Don't bring

52:47

all this bullshit. You can throw a little

52:49

thing, but you don't need to bring

52:51

all that stuff. No, what is it worth?

52:53

What is it? Yeah. Look at my

52:55

fucking house I had to pack up. Yeah.

52:57

And drive cross country like. That's

52:59

why I got rid of half of it. Thank God I

53:01

got my house was half the size that I was moving

53:03

to because I was like, I just get rid of it,

53:05

get rid of it, get rid of it. I have my

53:07

housekeeper who I adored and her family. I'm like, come with

53:09

me with a big giant truck and I'm just going to

53:11

give you everything. You can sell it, send it back to

53:13

your family, whatever. I just, I can't even deal with it.

53:15

Just fucking take it, take it, pool tables and patio sets

53:18

and like literally anything. I was like, get rid of it.

53:20

We don't have any of that. So

53:22

it's no, I know I'm

53:24

excited to like start

53:27

anew. I

53:29

don't need to bring any of this stuff. There's

53:31

a few big items, but that's it. That's

53:33

it. What does Tom want to hold on to?

53:35

Or what does he have to bring with

53:38

him from his bachelor days? What's the thing that

53:40

you can't negotiate? I don't

53:42

know. Tom doesn't really have

53:44

many things. It's just he's like,

53:46

this is too... dude. The

53:48

one thing that I've told him

53:50

this several times, all his fucking presence

53:52

that I have gotten him, his

53:55

big toy presence, like barbecue, they're

53:57

still in boxes in the corner of

53:59

our houses. learn? I'm not

54:01

buying anything for Tom that's big. doesn't need

54:03

that stuff. He's not someone that appreciates it

54:05

really. it all the time. I want a

54:07

pizza thing. But he's like, we don't have

54:09

the space to put it up. I'm like,

54:11

what? You just have to

54:13

do it. space. Throw that away. Throw that

54:15

over that section over way and put

54:17

it there. Actually, I've got

54:20

a pizza oven, too, that I haven't taken

54:22

out for a year a half. But that is

54:24

being done is going. I was at the

54:26

market literally this last weekend, getting stuff for camping.

54:28

And I was like, or not this weekend,

54:30

whatever, Monday. And I was like,

54:32

we are going this week because David's outside

54:34

with our friend in from Vegas. They're

54:36

building decks. We got a hot, a cold

54:38

plunge pool, cold plunge and a jacuzzi

54:40

like in one. They have to build decks

54:43

for it. So that came in half

54:45

the decks built. So they're going to finish

54:47

this week. My only requirement for my

54:49

birthday this year was that our front and

54:51

our backyard is completely done. Well, not

54:53

completely, but landscaped finally. And

54:55

so that's been a whole process, having an

54:57

HOA and going through different channels to

54:59

get approvals for things and pricing. And who's

55:01

going to do this? Are we doing

55:03

the grading? Are we doing the excavation? It's

55:06

a whole nother level out here. Not like

55:08

I can just hire gardeners to like come do

55:10

it. I have like blank space, you know,

55:12

and all kinds of shit. So, so he's working

55:14

with, he flew our friend in from Vegas,

55:16

who's a master carpenter to come build the stuff

55:18

with him. So my only request was please

55:20

let's have it done by June because we've only

55:23

been here almost three years and we don't

55:25

have, you know, I don't have an outdoor space

55:27

that we. I enjoy being in. So I'm

55:29

hoping that we get to get out there. And

55:31

once we get out there this week, then

55:33

we're going to do the pizza oven because I'm

55:35

actually home this weekend. So we're going to

55:37

bring out the pizza. Percent wise, how how done

55:39

is it? Well, compared

55:41

to what we want to do, like our

55:43

ideal, like our goals for our backyard,

55:45

we're only like 20 percent. You know, we

55:47

want to build a shop for David

55:49

and a guest house slash, you know, Barn

55:51

Dominium to be able to record in

55:53

proper studio space. And then. Yeah. probably do

55:55

need to build a pool and we're

55:57

building like a pavilion, you know, to be

55:59

able because I just have this dream

56:01

of having like a long dinner table where

56:04

I can, you know, fold down screens

56:06

because there's a lot of mosquitoes out here

56:08

where I can still have like everybody

56:10

for dinner and have beautiful dinner parties because

56:12

I do love to entertain and cook

56:14

and all that stuff. So and living out

56:16

in the middle of nowhere, you know,

56:18

and I usually go camping for my birthday,

56:20

but. I want to do it in

56:22

the yard this week, so this week, this

56:24

year. So it's a good goal to

56:26

have for us to go by June 1st.

56:28

I would like to have the back

56:30

and front done so we can have a

56:32

party. And I want to do like

56:35

a catered dinner with like a small acoustic

56:37

band. And I want to do marijuana

56:39

edible dinner with like a dozen of our

56:41

friends and just sit and have a

56:43

dinner party, like a three course meal infused

56:45

with marijuana and just have a band

56:47

playing. Dance and

56:49

enjoy each other and laugh and because when I

56:51

go camping as much as I love it

56:53

I still have a it's too much for me.

56:55

Yeah, you know, yeah, that's a lot of

56:57

relaxing organizing and it's not relaxing the way that

56:59

you guys can't that's not relaxing setting that

57:01

all up and then Enjoying it for two days

57:03

and then having to fucking clean up the

57:05

mess. That's why we usually usually go for like

57:08

five You know and it's and it's just

57:10

us, you know, everybody kind of does their thing

57:12

and brings their stuff, but but it's it's

57:14

still It's still a lot. Like I just, you

57:16

know, got a lot, you know, late yesterday

57:18

and I had five loads of laundry to do

57:20

of all the shit. And then I said

57:22

to David, like I have to clean. I need

57:24

next time I go camping, I need to

57:26

clean, like really clean the trailer

57:28

because it's been a while. So it's always

57:30

clean, but like it's, it gets pretty

57:32

gross with the dirt and the kids and

57:34

the fucking sand and dust, you know,

57:36

just shit. We're camping. So yeah, I need

57:39

to do that stuff. Unfortunately. Um,

57:41

yeah. What else scout?

57:43

Wild. Well, should we

57:45

answer one of these? now

57:48

we only have five minutes. I know, I

57:50

love it. That's why I'm like, we don't need a case. All

57:53

right, you know what time it

57:55

is, our favorite part of the

57:57

show where we dive into your

57:59

stories, your questions and your deepest

58:01

darkest relationship and sex dilemmas. From

58:04

heartbreak to hookups, regrets. This is

58:06

Oh, from is this normal to

58:08

am I the problem? We've heard

58:10

it all and we're down. What

58:13

the fuck is wrong with me? Maybe I

58:15

should read. We've heard it all

58:17

and we're here to break it down with zero judgment and

58:19

a whole lot of real talk. So buckle up because things

58:21

are about to get juicy. Let's get

58:23

into it. All right, Scout talk. Sex

58:25

questions, love questions, relationship questions to me.

58:27

All right, which which one do you

58:29

want? He's great in bed, but only

58:31

if he's drunk. My girlfriend

58:33

wants an open relationship. I don't.

58:35

I fell for my best friend's

58:38

boyfriend. Which one

58:40

do we want to digest in

58:42

these three minutes that we have?

58:45

Oh, that's a good question. know they're all

58:47

great. I'm like, oh my god, all

58:49

great. And I'm not, we're not like,

58:51

you know, not. Best

58:54

friend's boyfriend. They're all great. Okay.

58:56

I fell for my best

58:58

friend's boyfriend. Hi, ladies. I

59:00

love you so much. I've

59:02

been my best friends with

59:04

this girl since college. A

59:07

few months ago, she started dating

59:09

this guy and we instantly clicked. Nothing

59:11

physical has happened, but the emotional

59:13

connection is real. We text constantly and

59:15

I can tell there's a vibe.

59:17

Now I feel like the worst friend

59:19

ever. Do I distance

59:21

myself, confess everything, or just pretend

59:23

it's nothing and hope it

59:25

fades? Scout, I know you kind of

59:27

went, oh. Scout, I know you

59:30

kind of went through this with Andy. Oh,

59:32

no. Uh -oh. I

59:34

didn't know that there was a vibe.

59:36

First of all, first of all, no, I

59:38

did not know that there was a

59:41

vibe. is this, okay, keep reading. That's

59:43

it. Oh. Or just pretend it's

59:45

nothing and hope it fades. Well,

59:47

why does your best

59:49

friend have your boyfriend's phone

59:51

number? Yeah. And

59:53

why are they texting? Like, when did

59:55

that happen? Was it like you

59:57

guys were planning a surprise birthday party

59:59

for her, and then they kept

1:00:02

talking? Like, when did you think

1:00:04

that was okay? have Tom's, like, oh, oh,

1:00:06

like, well, you have Tom's info. Yeah,

1:00:08

but I, but I'm not like sending Tom

1:00:10

fucking memes or like funny things, or

1:00:12

it's only ever, like. Yeah. Hey,

1:00:14

where's Scout or check your email

1:00:16

or, you know, I have a

1:00:18

question for you about blah blah blah. Yeah, she

1:00:20

passed a boundary. You just,

1:00:22

I think you might have

1:00:24

passed a boundary that you, I'm

1:00:27

sure you felt in your gut that this

1:00:29

is a boundary that I should not cross

1:00:31

and this is what I'm talking about. We

1:00:33

need to start listening to our gut. And

1:00:35

now you're in this predicament. So

1:00:38

now you got to really

1:00:40

figure out A, I

1:00:42

need to like be better at

1:00:44

being a friend. Right?

1:00:48

Like that's not being a friend. No.

1:00:50

So now you need to figure out,

1:00:52

is this friendship even worth anything to you?

1:00:54

Because it sounds to me like it

1:00:56

wasn't. Doesn't sound like they care. She cares

1:00:59

all that much. Yeah, she cared that

1:01:01

much. I was watching The Housewives

1:01:03

last night before I went to bed. Beverly

1:01:06

Hills, Housewives, and there's Kyle Richards, who

1:01:08

was in the original Halloween, Lindsay. so

1:01:10

she's going through a divorce right now

1:01:12

and or she didn't know it wasn't

1:01:14

a divorce yet actually they're just separated

1:01:16

and she didn't know like her husband

1:01:18

uh Mauricio has his own condo and

1:01:20

then she thought it was she thought

1:01:22

it was just like a trial separation

1:01:24

to kind of see because they have

1:01:27

four kids and all the kids are

1:01:29

now almost out of the house and

1:01:31

you know they're married for like 18

1:01:33

20 something years or whatever and but

1:01:35

the weird things that i've been watching

1:01:37

is these women tend

1:01:39

to allow the man to make

1:01:41

the decision. Like they get separated

1:01:43

and then the man goes and

1:01:45

then starts dating and the woman's

1:01:47

like, oh wait, now that Maricio

1:01:49

was caught on by paparazzi at

1:01:51

the airport in like Spain or

1:01:53

something, kissing a girl, like a

1:01:55

girl came, a woman came to

1:01:57

pick him up and they caught

1:01:59

photos of like them saying hi

1:02:01

to each other, but like they

1:02:03

were all making out. So that

1:02:06

was her like, oh shit, I

1:02:08

guess, I guess I

1:02:10

should take wife off of my

1:02:12

Instagram because like he's obviously moved

1:02:14

on but we've never had a

1:02:16

conversation about it. I don't know

1:02:18

where where this came from that

1:02:20

women thought that they needed to

1:02:22

wait on men. Like I don't

1:02:25

understand. I had that

1:02:27

too. Like I don't

1:02:29

understand. You've got to like

1:02:31

start listening to yourself

1:02:33

and weighing out like Like

1:02:35

seeing the red flags. Like I

1:02:37

don't, I don't, I could not

1:02:40

imagine doing that now. Maybe

1:02:42

women think that like - Why is

1:02:44

it their decision for you to

1:02:46

like - Maybe they're just scared that

1:02:48

they're gonna like rip the rug out

1:02:50

from under them and take everything.

1:02:52

You know, that's why women should always

1:02:54

be independent financially and spiritually too.

1:02:56

So you have the tools to do

1:02:58

the healing and you have your

1:03:00

own money to go make those moves

1:03:02

so you're not afraid. you

1:03:04

know, that it's gonna be another person

1:03:06

on the show that's getting separated, that

1:03:09

husband's saying, and she's another one in

1:03:11

limbo of like, I don't know what we're

1:03:13

doing. I don't know what he wants

1:03:15

to do. And she's like, I'm just waiting

1:03:17

for him to kind of decide on

1:03:19

whether we should file or he's gonna file

1:03:21

or if we're gonna get back together.

1:03:24

It's like, I thought this is a two

1:03:26

-way street. I don't understand how that... But

1:03:28

I can understand. mean, that's hard when

1:03:30

it comes to divorce, right? That's really, really

1:03:32

fucking hard. That's hard to let anything

1:03:34

go. And unless someone does something wrong to

1:03:36

make it easier, you

1:03:38

know, I think it's easier when the man fucks around

1:03:40

or there's or or is or I don't know. I

1:03:42

mean, then the woman feels like she can take her

1:03:45

power back. But I guess when it's just like a

1:03:47

mutual, we love each other, but it's not working anymore.

1:03:49

And the kids are grown. And now what do we

1:03:51

do? I feel like a lot of women just kind

1:03:53

of go, you know, or maybe there's

1:03:55

men, men, if you're listening to this and you've

1:03:57

had that situation where you're waiting for your wife to

1:03:59

say whether or not she wants you. I

1:04:01

would love to hear your story

1:04:04

about it and how you handle that.

1:04:06

And women, why do you let the man make the

1:04:09

decision? Can't this be done together? How

1:04:12

do you do it together? It's hard. Yeah,

1:04:14

it's hard. That's hard. That's

1:04:16

hard to come to the conclusion

1:04:18

that you guys no longer

1:04:20

want to be together. That's

1:04:23

tough. But you're getting

1:04:25

separated, so something's not right. But

1:04:27

what does the separation mean?

1:04:29

I know, I'm curious. What

1:04:31

does that mean when you're like, let's separate? Let's

1:04:34

separate. Let me see if

1:04:36

I can make it on my own or let me

1:04:38

see if I don't need you. Yeah, I don't.

1:04:40

I wonder what that is. Or let

1:04:42

me see if I could get somebody else

1:04:44

while I don't have you watching my every

1:04:46

move and then I'll get divorced when I

1:04:48

could move on to that. Yeah, I don't

1:04:50

know what that is. Yeah.

1:04:52

It's like, what's

1:04:54

worse? What feels worse, staying

1:04:57

in an unhappy marriage or being

1:04:59

single? What feels worse? And then

1:05:01

they'll make their decision after six months of

1:05:03

how that feels and whether they want to go

1:05:05

back to their, the life that they had

1:05:07

had. Maybe the grass isn't always greener and they

1:05:09

just need to see. Don't

1:05:11

think, don't you think we'll get, we'll go after

1:05:13

this. I just want to say one thing.

1:05:15

Don't you wonder like, I always

1:05:18

wonder like, you know, there was that show

1:05:20

called, um, wife swap. a million years ago

1:05:22

that I loved. I always wish that was

1:05:24

still on. I know. I'm like, I would

1:05:26

love to see, go live with somebody else

1:05:28

for it. We've talked about this. Go there.

1:05:30

But then I'm worried, like, uh -oh, maybe they

1:05:32

would like it better. You

1:05:37

know? I know we talked about doing

1:05:39

it ourselves. Yeah. That's

1:05:43

hilarious. Oh my god, we should.

1:05:45

would drive. We should. would drive them nuts. We should

1:05:47

do an experiment. That would be so funny. Maybe

1:05:49

we'll do it when we finally do

1:05:51

this fuckin' show with Bloody Disgusting. We'll

1:05:54

be like, guess what we're gonna do?

1:05:56

This is what we're gonna do. And

1:05:58

they come back and it. We

1:06:02

film it. Yeah. You

1:06:04

guys, by the way, Talk

1:06:06

Scary to Me has a YouTube channel. It's

1:06:08

Talk Scary. productions or Talk Scary

1:06:10

to Me productions I have to look. But it

1:06:12

has, I think, eight episodes. And we are trying

1:06:14

to get more on we're in the process of

1:06:17

loading more episodes. so they will all be on

1:06:19

there at some point. But there is action park

1:06:21

Media that has some of our episodes. But that's

1:06:23

not our official. Even though it says official that's

1:06:25

not our official YouTube. It is uh the productions

1:06:27

one. And we're going to be loading more stuff.

1:06:29

and you guys, we we announced last week, actually,

1:06:32

that won't be the case because this is going

1:06:34

to air way longer. yeah this is yeah whatever

1:06:36

we'll talk about it another time. four weeks. Fucking

1:06:39

hell. Four weeks. All right, let's get

1:06:41

off. Happy Tuesday, everybody. Tuesday. You gotta

1:06:43

let it load. Remember, Remember, don't get

1:06:45

off. Okay, bye, everybody. Come on, bye.