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It was a delight that Harvard Law Professor meretis Professor

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So that book is free one million copies on college campuses,

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It's a short book. It's only like eighty or ninety pages.

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I want to get back to that.

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But you know, last time we had you on talking

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actually under eighty thousand views on YouTube alone. When you

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change from the Democratic Party where you left them. So

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every time I go and they go, what is Alan

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going to be voting for? Is he going to be voting for Trump? Finally? So that's my question to you,

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Are you finally ready to make the commitment this short

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time before election day?

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I'm not going to disclose my vote. I am going

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to disclose that I have not endorsed a candidate. Really,

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for the first time in many years, I have refused

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to endorse Kamala Harris. I can't support her, and I

9:51

have not endorsed Donald Trump, and I'm not going to

9:53

disclose my vote. One of the reasons I'm not disclosing

9:57

my vote is there have really been threats and efforts

10:01

to try to take out take recriminations against me and

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my family if I vote a certain way, and so

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I'm going to take advantage of the constitutional right of

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every voter to cast a secret ballot. But I'm not

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a Democrat. I'm going to vote for candidates based on

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their particular merits, and I'm not going to vote for

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the Democrats in order to secure a Democratic majority in

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the House or the Senate. No, I'm only going to

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vote for which candidate is best for America, for world peace,

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and for Israel. I am voting based on Hillal's admonition

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and may not needly meely, I've spent most of my

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life on the second part of that. If I am

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for myself alone, what am I I'm now becoming much

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more a part of I'm going to vote in the

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interests of American Jews, of Israeli Jews, of what I

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believe are the principles and values that I've defended and

10:56

supported all of my life.

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So if I were you and I were is quoting you, I said, you just set the case of why you

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will be voting for Donald Trump, because Israel is the

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paramount issue.

11:06

Make the case that I'm not going to disclose my vote.

11:08

I'm not going to endorse Donald Trump, but I'm not

11:11

going to endorse Kamala Harris. Look, Donald Trump has said

11:15

some things that I just don't agree with. Then what

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I worry more about is Kamala Harris has and President

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Biden has put restrictions on Israel. If not for the

11:27

current administration, I think Israel would have bombed the nuclear

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facilities and the oil facilities of Iran and would have

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brought Iran to its knees. And Iran is now threatening

11:39

to retaliate against Israel because they know that Biden and

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Harris will prevent Israel from responding. So under no circumstances

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can I support a Democratic victory or can I support

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Harris in this election? But I have hesitations about endorsing

11:59

Trump as well, and I vote will be secret, all.

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Right, but you're pretty much outline. Forgive me.

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But by saying Israel, listen, nobody's perfect and Donald Trump,

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you can say, I know you've heard you say you like you don't like his domestica, John, you like the

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Democrats at the agenda. But at the end of the day,

12:13

if Israel's paramount, people have no choice. Even the soakamer

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rebbe who doesn't endorse candidates endorse Donald Trump just.

12:20

The other day in Monroe, New York.

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I understand that, and if I were a Hasidic rebbe,

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I'd probably do the same thing because I have an obligation and tell my harassidam who to vote for. But

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I'm just an eighty six year old retired law professor

12:35

and I have to live with my wife and my family.

12:39

You know, my wife has voted for for Harris. My

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children I think will vote for for Harris. I am

12:46

an individual and I'll make up my own decision, but

12:50

I'm not going to disclose it.

12:52

I can tell you wife who you voted for.

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You'll have to ask her.

12:57

All right, well, next you about that. But no, it's

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an interesting thing.

13:01

But what bothers me, by the way, is that the

13:04

first that the Tim Watz is running for vice president

13:07

together with AOC and said he'd like to see a

13:09

Speaker of the House, which got very little attention.

13:12

But that's very worrisome.

13:14

Somebody like in AOC was so anti Israel is cozied

13:17

up to by somebody running for vice president. It disturbs

13:20

me greatly, I'll be honest with you.

13:22

Stirbs me greatly. Look at Michael Moore. Michael Moore is

13:25

an out and out overt anti semi the guy who

13:28

wrote you know, me made those films. You should have

13:31

seen him on CNN today talking about Israel and killing

13:35

civilians and killing children, not a word about October seventh.

13:39

And Michael Moore is high up in the Democratic Party.

13:42

And so if you vote with the Democrats, you're voting

13:45

for Michael Moore, you're voting for AOC, You're voting for

13:48

Bernie Sanders's turned out to be one of the most

13:51

self hating Jewish senators in modern history. And so I

13:56

agree with those who say they can't be associated with

13:58

the Democratic Party, cannot be associated with the Democratic Party.

14:03

I can be associated with some members of the Democratic Party,

14:06

and I will vote for some members of the Democratic Party.

14:09

If I were in Massachusetts, I could not vote for

14:12

Liz Warren. In in New York, I would have a

14:16

problem voting for Chuck Schumer. He's been so hypocritical on

14:21

Israel and on Jewish issues. He calls himself, you know,

14:25

show Mahr, yes for Ale, But actually the word Schumer

14:29

is German, not Hebrew, and it means something very negative

14:33

in German, and it's not scho Mayher. He has not

14:37

been the show Mary yes forra Ale. He has been

14:39

the mayor Schumer.

14:40

Well, and Schulmer, you Schmiel.

14:42

Some people say, by the way, his recent statement to

14:45

the Columba University that they don't have to worry about

14:47

the Jewish students and ignore what's happening is getting a

14:50

lot of outrage.

14:51

And it should and it should, and you know, let

14:54

him talk about it, and he hasn't talked about it. Look,

14:56

Schumer has always been everything to everybody. He was going

15:00

to vote for the iranio, but he got permission from

15:03

Biden to vote against it only after they had enough

15:06

votes to vote for it. He's been a hypocrite in

15:09

a phony for years. And you know, you have guys

15:13

like James Carvell, who's an out and out bigot. James Carvell,

15:17

who's so active in the Democratic Party. He basically says,

15:21

if you're in favor of truth or if you're in

15:23

favor of due process, oh my god, that's going to

15:26

hurt the Democrats, and the Democrats have to win the election.

15:30

He is closer to having a kind of totalitarian ideology

15:35

than anybody on the Republican Party. So I'm very worried

15:38

about people who are high up in the Democratic Party,

15:42

including as I said, Michael Moore and Bernie Sanders and

15:48

James Carvell. These are not good people.

15:51

No, they're not.

15:51

And just even aos seeing all these people that are

15:54

getting really, like you said, at the Democratic National Conventure,

15:57

getting top billing. You know, if they don't say a worried about is it's really raising their status. When they

16:02

do speak about Israel, it has more.

16:04

You're absolutely right, You're absolutely right, and so I urge

16:07

everybody who cares about Israel to quit the Democratic Party,

16:10

disassociate themselves in the Democratic Party, and then vote for

16:13

who you think is best for the country, but don't

16:16

vote along party lines. I mean, I'm the first person,

16:18

probably in the history of my family ever not to

16:21

be a Democrat, and including all the members of my

16:24

current family. But go back to my parents and my grandparents,

16:28

there were all Democrats. But as Ronald Reagan said, he

16:31

didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left him.

16:34

You can't be in favor of AOC and Alan Durschwitz

16:37

at the same time. Sorry, no tent is big enough

16:40

for that. And I refuse to be in the tent

16:43

with Bernie Sanders, AOCIT, Liz Warren and the other Israel haters.

16:48

So does your family take it.

16:49

If they find out, for example, that you voted for Donald Trump, how will they take it?

16:53

Because you're gonna be the lone voice.

16:56

They're not gonna find out. Look, they would like me

17:00

to have not only voted for Kamala Harris, but to

17:03

have endorsed Kamala Harris. I cannot do that and I

17:06

will not do that.

17:08

By the way, have you gotten more? I mean, listen,

17:10

we had a lot of positive reaction when you were on.

17:12

Tomut leaving the Democratic Party, almost a million viewers and

17:15

forty four thousand likes, and I read a lot of the comments. People are very supportive and they're saying it's

17:19

about time. You have a lot of support out there.

17:22

But what have you been finding since you made that pronunciation and all likelihood will vote for Donald Trump? Have

17:27

you found people been receptive? Where more people have been

17:29

attacking you for attacking me?

17:31

Much much more attacking me over Look, the day I

17:36

defended Donald Trump, even though I voted against him and

17:39

I voted for his opponents. But when I defended Donald Trump.

17:43

For example, I was a very close friend to the

17:46

owner of the Boston Red Sox, John Henry, used to

17:48

invite me to his box. We spent election night together.

17:53

When Obama won the election, he invited me on his vote.

17:56

He invited me the airplane. He always sat next to

18:01

me at baseball games. The day I defended Donald Trump

18:05

on the floor of the United States Sateity, he never spoke to me again, never allowed me into the owner's

18:10

box at the Red Sox. And you know I'm still

18:14

a resax man. By the way. Congratulations to all the

18:17

La Dodger fans, the old Brooklyn Dodger fans for winning

18:20

the World Series. This is the ring that the Brooklyn

18:24

Dodgers won in nineteen fifty five. This was Don Zimmer's

18:28

ring the year the Brooklyn Dodgers won the World Series,

18:33

the only time they've ever won the World Series. And

18:35

as people from Borough Park will remember, I lived one

18:38

block away from Sandy Kofax. He lived on forty eighth

18:42

Street between fourteenth and fifteenth. I lived on boop of Boulevard,

18:46

which is forty eighth Street between fifteenth and sixteenth. But

18:50

of course I knew Sandy Kopax. Today, Hello to growing up.

18:54

And for my fifty fifth birthday, my wife managed to

18:57

get Sandy Kopax to come to my house for dinner.

19:00

You know, I've been a Brooklyn Dodger fan for a

19:02

long time, and so congratulations to those Brooklyn Dodger fans

19:07

who were able to transfer the loyalty to Los Angeles.

19:10

I was never able to do that, But I didn't know.

19:12

Stanley of Kolfax lived in Borough Park.

19:14

He was brought up in Bay Ridge, but he lived

19:17

between fifteenth and sixteenth Avenue and Borough Park. His father

19:21

had a little house, like a three family house, and

19:25

it had a sign in front irving Kofax Lawyer, taxa returns,

19:31

insurance policies, accidents. You know, he was a small town lawyer.

19:36

But Sandy lived on my block. He played basketball at

19:39

the y on fourteenth Avenue between forty ninth and fiftieth Street,

19:43

although most of the time he spent in the y

19:47

in Bensonhurst, where he had gone to school. His parents

19:50

moved from Benz Nurse to Borough Park when he was

19:53

like a sophomore in high school. But he used to

19:56

occasionally go to Temple Emmanuel in Borough Park, the Conserva Temple.

20:00

And of course we know he didn't pitch.

20:02

On Young Keyport, but I guess you went to eight time on thirteenth Avenue, and fiftieth Street right, I went.

20:07

To eighth Cliam and I walked past Basically, I walked

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past Urban Cofax's Loafing every day because I walked down

20:14

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20:17

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20:21

a bundit and where I got in trouble all the time.

20:23

And of course that's not their Boroughpark has changed. Have you've gone to Borough Park lately, you've seeing them to difference.

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I still love eating on thirteenth Avenue of sixteenth Avenue,

20:32

but when I go to Borough Park, I feel like a space alien because I don't look like everybody else,

20:38

and people look at me and they don't recognize me because they don't watch television. For the most part, occasionally

20:43

somebody will come up to me. My mother lived in

20:45

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20:48

in ninety five, and people would come up to me

20:51

sometimes Causeidon would say, ah Dershowitz, and my mother would say,

20:55

why did you watch them on television? You're not supposed

20:57

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Arias is Harvard Law Professor Emeritus Alan Avidershowitz, and he's

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written this fifty fifth book dealing with campuses and a

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ten big anthonys relies how to refute them with the truth.

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It's giving up one million free copies on campus itself.

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At the back of the book is a message to young students, and I say, you are a fortunate generation,

27:48

far more fortunate than previous generations who were not in

27:52

a position to defend Israel in the Jewish community against

27:55

anti Semitism, anti Zionism, and unfair attacks on your heritage.

27:59

Innineteen thirty, students and others of your age did not

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have the power or the ability to speak up against Nazism.

28:06

But you have that power. Use it. Your professors won't

28:10

do it, your administrators, the presidents of the universities won't

28:13

do it. But you have the power to do it. So you're a privileged generation. You have the power to

28:18

defend Israel and to defend the Jewish community.

28:21

The promised professor is that a lot of students are

28:23

not really set up to be warriors for Israel.

28:26

They should be warriors for Israel, and every Jew has

28:30

an obligation, every pro Israel person. By the way, many Christians,

28:34

many Christians are pro Israel, and they too have been

28:38

speaking out and should speak out. Look, a lot of

28:40

these kids on college campus that today have been so

28:43

brave they have been willing to get lower grades because

28:46

they get lower grades if they support Israel, Fewer recommendations

28:49

and a lot of cancelation by friends. I have friends

28:55

of mine who have been told they've been turned down from fraternities and sororities, and they haven't and allowed to

29:01

go here and there join clubs. Look at in Berkeley,

29:05

a state sponsored school Berkeley, California, thirteen clubs, including Black Club,

29:10

a women's club, gay club, have said if you're a Zionist,

29:13

you can't speak in our club. Will be a member. That's illegal. But that's what's happening to students at places

29:20

like the University of California.

29:22

But you're also happening to book authors and you're having

29:24

to professors. Are Bernard Henry Leavey's book has been It's

29:28

an important book, but yet he didn't want to promote

29:31

it because he's Jewish.

29:33

That's right. And you know I used to get promoted.

29:36

I used to get invited to speak at every college

29:38

and the university. Today they're not inviting me. But you

29:41

know what I've done with this book. I have agreed

29:44

to speak free on Zoom at any college and any

29:48

university that wants me to speak. And I will be

29:51

speaking at the University of Pennsylvania, I will be speaking

29:54

at Yale. I will be speaking by Zoom to Harvard

29:57

students and alumni. So you want me to speak at

30:00

your college or university, just call and arrange with my

30:04

office and I will speak free of charge by zoom.

30:07

If it's local, I can do it in person if

30:09

the school will have me. Schools say, oh no, we

30:12

can't have Drschwitz. The security needs are too great. We

30:15

have to have too many policemen because people are threatening

30:17

to kill him if he speaks on our campus.

30:19

Which is crazy. Free speech has been stifled.

30:22

Speak at Brooklyn College. I went to Brooklyn College. I'm

30:25

probably the best known graduate of Brooklyn College. I cannot

30:30

speak there about Israel. You know what they told me

30:32

when I was invited by a small Jewish group to

30:35

speak there. We don't need another Israeli speaker. We've already

30:37

had Norman Finkelstein. Wow, so they won't let me speak

30:41

at Brooklyn College.

30:42

Let me ask a question.

30:43

If a student club invites you, they don't have the

30:46

right to have you speak to a private to a club.

30:48

You know, it may be fun about university.

30:50

I know in Columbia they say, well, you know, we

30:52

had an anti Yusuel speaker, but it was a group,

30:55

a chapter of some organizations that had it, So why

30:57

does not hold for Brooklyn College?

31:00

Schools have rules that will not allow student groups to

31:04

invite without the approval of X, Y and Z. So

31:07

I was invited by the University of California at Berkeley

31:10

and they tried to cancel it. I threaten to bring a lawsuit, and they allowed me to speak. But I

31:16

have not been allowed to speak at Brooklyn College, or

31:19

at City University, or at Hunter College, or at any

31:22

of the news And by the way, when I was invited to speak at Yeshiva University, Yeshiva University, Cardoza Law School,

31:29

there were efforts to try to stop me from speaking.

31:32

In the front row, there were students, mostly minority students,

31:35

but there were some others with signs saying why do

31:39

we allow a rapist to speak in our school? A

31:41

child molestor This goes back to the false accusation that

31:45

was withdrawn by a woman who admitted that she may

31:48

have confused me and mistaken me for somebody else. But

31:51

when it comes to speaking about Israel, it doesn't matter.

31:54

Even James Carvel brought that issue up when he attacked

32:00

me for defending Donald Trump's rights in court. He brought

32:06

that up, and so people bring up that fake issue,

32:09

which has been withdrawn with an admission by the woman

32:12

herself that she may have mistaken me for somebody else.

32:14

But that becomes the excuse at Cardoza Law School. And

32:17

then the dean of Cardoza Law School, sponsored by Yeshiva University,

32:22

took the part of the students rather than the part

32:25

of the speaker.

32:26

She did not.

32:26

Defend my right to free speech. She defended the right

32:29

of the students to defame me. And that's Cardoza Law School.

32:34

Can you imagine how it must be in other law schools.

32:36

Let me tell you it's a lot better at Catholic

32:38

schools than it is a Jewish schools.

32:41

Unfortunately, that's to be the case.

32:42

Did you try suing the woman for monetary damages, the

32:46

one who claimed that you were involved with Jeffrey Epstein?

32:49

She had to recant, of course, my.

32:51

Suit of for monetary damages, and then she withdrew her

32:54

lawsuit and admitted that she may have made it up,

32:57

and so I dropped my lawsuit as well. So that

33:01

cases over.

33:02

But you don't want to pursue it.

33:03

Just a teacher a lesson, Well, you know, I have

33:06

better things to do to spend my time. But if

33:08

anybody does accuse me now, I will I will sue them.

33:13

I have photographs of the people who held up those

33:15

signs at Cardoza, and I'm thinking about the possibility of

33:18

bringing lawsuits. And I am bringing lawsuits against some anti

33:23

Israel people who have brought that issue up and tried

33:26

to use it as a way of discrediting me on Israel.

33:29

So I'm going to be pretty proactive in making sure

33:33

that people can't use that against me when I defend Israel.

33:37

Now, one time on this program, professor you mentioned that

33:41

the best way to create anti semis is to sue them.

33:44

Has he had any progress getting a codre of lawyers

33:47

to sue those that are engaged in anti Semitic activity.

33:50

Well, only anti Semitic acts, and so the organization was

33:54

called Hurt a Jew. We sue you, and I do

33:58

have some lawyers who are prepared. And so if you know anybody who has been attacked, physically attacked. We're not

34:03

talking about speeches, just physically attack, whether it be in

34:07

Crown Heights or in Manhattan or anywhere else, call me

34:10

and you can call you and you'll put me in

34:13

touch with them, and we will file lawsuits on behalf

34:17

of anybody who's been hurt because they're Jewish. Because prosecutors

34:22

don't bring these cases for the most part, they let

34:24

them drop. But if it's a civil lawsuit, you can't

34:26

make us drop it.

34:27

By the way, what do you think about the legal

34:30

woes that New York City Mayor Eric Adams is facing.

34:33

Well, he's presumed innocent. I want to hear the evidence,

34:36

so I want to see what it looks like. You know,

34:38

it's so easy to bring lawsuits these days, and even

34:42

to bring indictments. Look at the indictment against Donald Trump,

34:45

which resulted in the conviction for something that isn't a crime.

34:48

You know, I've been teaching and writing about criminal office

34:51

sixty years. I think I know the subject pretty well.

34:54

And I can't understand the charges against Donald Trump in

34:56

the New York case. And so we'll have to wait

34:59

and see what the with the Adams case springs about you.

35:02

So, when I mentioned that fact to a New York, prominent New York Democratic lawyer, very prominent, he said, oh,

35:07

Allen dors Was he's like so into Trump that he's

35:09

ignoring the law.

35:10

Well, first of all, I'm not at the Trump I've never voted for Trump in my life. And second of all,

35:16

I'm into the law, and I challenge him put him

35:19

on the show with me. I challenge him to explain

35:22

to anybody what the charges against them are. I don't

35:24

understand those charges. They're just not there. They're made up.

35:29

I think that'll be a future program where we can discuss.

35:31

Is happy to do it, Surriv. It's always a pleasure

35:35

to have you on the air with us.

35:37

You do a great job, and I'm so always pleased

35:39

to be on and keep calling me Avi. You know,

35:41

all my old friends from Bura Parks still call me Avi.

35:44

My friend Carl, I've only known him now for about

35:47

eighty four years. Our parents walked us together in Williamsburg

35:52

in a baby carriage. Is that's how long I've known Carl.

35:55

And he called me today. We're going to have lunch on Sunday and he said, hey, Avy, how are you.

36:00

As soon as people say Avi, I know how long

36:02

they've known me for.

36:04

And I think you have the Calman family in the

36:06

Upper West Side Manhattan, and go back with you.

36:08

Yeah. Her calls me Ave all the time, and Ira

36:11

writes to me all the time and says, how can you be supporting Trump? How can you be supporting Trump?

36:16

You know?

36:16

So I fight with a lot of my old friends.

36:19

I think of my eight old friends, seven of whom

36:21

are so alive. I think too probably for Trump. One

36:26

won't disclose me, and the others are all for or

36:29

all for Harris.

36:30

But they still talk to you. That's a good thing.

36:32

They, unlike the people on Martin's Vineyard, are the owner

36:35

of the Boston Red Sox.

36:36

Wow, seame you can't sue them, right, I don't want.

36:38

To sue them. I want to just have marketplace of ideas open to everybody, so everybody's views can be heard.

36:43

That's going out the window in America.

36:45

It's going out the window. And I think if the Democrats win, it'll go out the window more. They are

36:50

the party refreshed. James Carvel in a post talks about

36:54

how terrible it is that people are interested in the truth.

36:57

People like me are interested in the truth, are interested

36:59

in process instead of just having the Democrats win. That's

37:03

what so many on the hard left of the Democratic

37:05

Party are in favor. They're much closer to a totalitarian

37:09

mindset than people on the right.

37:11

Absolutely, it's fascism of the left.

37:14

Well, I don't like to use the term fascism, but cotalitarianism is a good term. You know, Nazi analogies. What

37:20

the Nazis did was so much worse than anything. People

37:23

who compare you know, Trump to Hitler or the Republicans

37:26

to Nazis are essentially how kaust deniers. They're saying that

37:30

what happen between nineteen forty one nineteen forty five is

37:34

no worse than what's going on today, and that's wrong.

37:37

It's throwing out the garbage. That's really what it is.

37:39

It's throwing out to see instead of fighting on ideas,

37:41

that fighting on saying this person's a hit lerrys a demon,

37:44

This follows a garbage.

37:46

It's not the way to really conduct it.

37:47

As you're engaged in too much name calling both sides.

37:50

Professor, I'm looking for it.

37:51

Will you disclose your vote after the election, we'll see,

37:54

all right, keep on doing what you're doing for this

37:57

or people say they admire you how you keep on such a strong support order of visual keep it up

38:01

your latest book, they can get it's dealing with college campuses.

38:05

It's called the ten big antheors relies and how to

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With the truth free, free of sure free.

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So good to have you on the program. Thank you for joining us, Thanks for having me. You know, I'm

39:26

curious because I into a lot of the Orthodox Jewish legislators.

39:30

You're the only exception that's the republic Everybody else is

39:32

a Democrat, simple Eisenstein, Kaman yegor Simka Felder.

39:36

You had the lone Republican in the group.

39:37

Some of them are assembly people. Yet I'm the first,

39:41

uh and only Republican or Didston state history, and that's

39:45

a very sad comment You know, I'm the very first

39:47

elected official on Long Island to wear iyamica a quarter

39:50

of a century ago. That's also a very sad commentary.

39:53

Here's the thinking, because I heard we just had a

39:55

conversation with Dove Hiking, former of Sliman Democratics and now Republican.

40:00

I'm thinking is is some of the rabbi, some of the leaders, say well, we have to vote democratic on

40:04

local elections because they're going to bring home the bacon. They're going to bring home the money the community. Republicans

40:09

can do that. So the vote republican the national rights,

40:11

but the vote democratic locally.

40:13

What do you say to that, Well, it's specifically talking

40:15

in the Assembly, I would say it is the rabb

40:17

i should mostly take their yamucha's off because the hill

40:20

of hush em that they're causing is monumental. I've been

40:23

in office a quarter of a century. If you haven't

40:25

come to Cedarhurst, then you really haven't participated in any

40:29

major Jewish event. What do I mean by that? I've

40:31

been in office. I know all our assembly people for

40:33

the past. I'm here thirty three years. I've never seen

40:37

my assembly people. They're nice people, very nice people. I

40:41

have never received a penny in the village of Cedars

40:43

I'm still the deputy mayor there. Ever, you haven't given

40:46

it to Cedarhurst, you haven't given it anywhere. Let's see,

40:49

I just built a pick a bull court and Seedarhurst.

40:51

I just gave one hundred thousand dollars to Long Beach City Hall. I just gave one hundred and fifty thousand

40:55

dollars to Island Park. Each one of my libraries gets

40:58

tens of thousands of dollars plate reader cameras to ocean side.

41:04

I can go on forever. You know what I've gotten

41:06

from my assembly people in the last thirty years zero,

41:09

So whatever they're saying isn't true. And I got to tell you something else. I'm the if you look at

41:14

the other side of the Island Assembly, they don't show up,

41:16

so I know who's voting for what, and I know

41:19

who's having the speaker press the button for them. When

41:22

you're wearing a yamack on your head and you're voting

41:24

for prop one, things that are not only anti American,

41:28

by anti Tora, I tell the Rabbis do your research

41:31

and shame on you for supporting anti Torah values periods.

41:35

I'm the only one that's not it.

41:37

You mentioned prop one.

41:38

I know that a lot of people are a post to tell Aridon what it's all about and what's so

41:43

dangerous about prop one.

41:44

Prop one is a very sinister proposition where they're trying

41:48

to paint it as an abortion issue, but if you

41:50

read it, it really doesn't say that. It's really an

41:53

end run on a number of things. Number One, you

41:56

can't discriminate against somebody for their residency In other words,

41:59

if you're a legal migrants carte blanche, you're gonna get

42:03

every bill paid for you. Age discrimination, well, this is

42:07

a big one that my colleagues and rabbis listen have

42:11

all supported. What does that mean if a man wants

42:14

to sleep with a twelve year old boy, you can't

42:17

discriminate against them. The whole pedophilia issue is opened up

42:20

with this. Every tora of value is being broken by

42:25

this proposition. Besides being a very anti American in every

42:28

single way, when Newsday votes against it, says it is

42:32

not supporting it, you know that's pretty bad. You know,

42:35

I'm the son of a Holocaust survivor, my mother and grandmother,

42:38

and I remember as a kid always hearing the real stories.

42:40

You know, my generation, our generation, the Holocaust was right there.

42:43

It was an ancient history, and we all said to ourselves,

42:45

we would have hidden in frank and we would have been the shindler. But you know what, we had this

42:50

opportunity when it came to COVID recently. My grandmother would

42:55

make matz out of dust and these robuttum shut shools down.

42:59

This is the time for them to be shindler and

43:02

stand up for what's right. Not colleagues who support every

43:06

anti Torah value. Shameful.

43:09

So do you have conversation with the rabbis in the community about this issue?

43:12

Again, all those rabbis on those I never heard of them because they really one or two they never really

43:16

get involved in the community. A few of the big ones I've heard, I think they're just misguided because what

43:22

they do is, I say, why do you I've spoken

43:24

to w what do you do as well? You know we're not going to get our funding for a hull

43:28

of modes. Took this project, I said, rabbis or to

43:31

my colleagues. If all this is about about getting two

43:34

or three hundred thousand dollars for a Holla mode event

43:37

or some Jewish festival last the day, shame on you.

43:41

I put it into something for the entire community, for infrastructure,

43:44

something that will last a lifetime. Whether I just gave

43:49

money to put together a mobile library for the Peninsula

43:53

Public Library that not only stays the Jewish people, that

43:56

serves all people, a one off for a holiday. If

43:58

that's what you're looking for and not looking at the

44:00

big picture, they say, well, the majority, Well guess what

44:04

if the few yamakas on the other side of the aisle will come to my side. We get rid of

44:08

the supermajority, the the person that stands up for Torah

44:12

and Jewish value. Isn't it shameful that the rabbis say

44:15

to support the people who are part of the put,

44:18

part of AOC, the squad, Thalibs, the Omars.

44:22

Be supporting democratic candidates.

44:23

Is that what you're reporting democratic candidates? In any way,

44:26

you're supporting that party. When my colleague and now with

44:29

the Congressman Mike Lawler, wanted to have a resolution and

44:33

you hatred day and that couldn't come to the floor,

44:36

but Menstrual hygien Day was lorded. That day is the

44:38

greatest piece of legislation. And my colleagues said nothing. I

44:43

have six bills in the Assembly on anti Semitism and

44:46

that one yamaka is standing with me. But every non

44:50

Jewish stay with me on these hills. Why because they're

44:53

afraid of the speaker and they're afraid of the DSA.

44:56

These are the Jews that the rabbis are supporting. They're wonderful, kid,

45:00

I like them all. They're really wonderful. I can't say

45:03

one bad thing about those colleagues. They're the nicest kids.

45:07

But you know what, it's misguided and it's shameful. It's

45:10

time to stand up for the Jewish people.

45:12

You caucus at all with the other Orthodox Jewish legislators.

45:16

I asked them to. I'm the one that writes the bills.

45:19

I say, right away. Please, here's a letter I'm writing

45:23

to a university president. Please sign on. Here's a bill,

45:26

six bills, please sign on.

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Here.

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I'm having a press conference on the million dollar staircase. Nothing.

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What do they tell you?

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They don't you know, I'm not gonna get my funding.

45:38

We have to bring back the bacon. Even that a

45:41

Jew is saying bring back the bacon just shows you

45:44

how anti Tora values this is about. Is it about

45:47

a money for a one off thing, or to deliver

45:50

for the entire Jewish people? I say, be it proud

45:53

jew come to the side that supports the Jewish people,

45:57

not the party of the AOCS, not the party of

46:00

the kou kux Klan, not the body of the segregationists.

46:03

But but now you know there was a movement underway,

46:06

and we spoke about it on the area you're well aware of it. Where they're saying too orthodox shoes especially.

46:11

You know you want to vote Republican, but at least be a registered Democrat because all the interesting races and

46:16

primary races are in the Democratic Party. You have more

46:19

influence by being a Democrat. And vote Republican if you like,

46:22

but stay in the party.

46:23

Again, it's the question of a ghanav a Goslin. You

46:27

know you want to steal at night, and you're not afraid of God, be a robber during the day. God's

46:32

more accepting of something like that. Be a proud Jew.

46:35

People say you didn't grow up religious, but you always were a keeper. You know why you wear a kipa

46:39

because they didn't want me to be the proud Jew.

46:42

Twenty four to seven. Not when it's convenient, not for you,

46:46

for any type of maneuvers. Come to our side. Eventually

46:50

we'll get the majority again. At least we'll get rid

46:52

of the supermajority right away. What they can't stand on

46:56

their own merit. Only through having the D in front

46:59

will they be voted for. They shouldn't be in office.

47:01

And again they are all the nicest kids, every one

47:05

of them, but they do the wrong thing.

47:07

Let's get personal. You said you mentioned that you weren't

47:09

wars observant. What made you decide to become more involved

47:12

politically and also religiously.

47:14

The funny story, I used to be very smart, but I lost a lot of brain cells over the years.

47:18

I graduated. I just turned sixteen from high school. I

47:20

wasn't old enough to drive to school. I know how to go to college at night. I went to Israel

47:24

for the year. When I came home, my parents became religious.

47:27

I said, I think you got a little backwards. I was suused to.

47:30

But anyway, why did they become religious because you went

47:32

to Israel?

47:33

Well, they had a you know whatever it was. And

47:38

my parents never missed dobbining Minka Mara over. My mother lectured.

47:42

My mother was a very just passed away as a very famous lecture on Holocaust studies. My mother and grandmother

47:48

are Italian Jews. It's a very famous story. In a

47:50

book called Haven, you can read about this story. But politics,

47:54

Mayor Parisi called me twenty five twenty six years ago

47:57

our computer ponyboard, and you know, so on and so forth,

48:01

and it led to other things. I used to be the vice share of the Townehampstad Industrial Development Agency, but

48:06

I always said no to bigger office because my seven kids,

48:09

they're all grown now. If they were up, I wanted

48:12

to be home. I went on every school trip. I

48:14

was the class mother for five of my seven kids.

48:17

If they're awake, I'm gonna be there. I'm never going to miss a day. And that's why I got great kids.

48:22

Thank good.

48:23

So now that the kids are older, any plans where

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you look for a higher position.

48:27

Listen, every person makes this mistake. Whether you're a mayor

48:30

or a governor or a president of United States, you know what it means. It means nothing. It means nothing.

48:35

People forget about you the next day when you know,

48:38

for whatever reason, it's what you do for a fellow person.

48:41

I had the opportunity recently. They I got to call, Hey, Ai,

48:44

you matched for someone for kidney donation. I said, let's

48:48

do it. You said, you don't want to ask if he's from or not from. I said, if anybody have

48:51

to ask you that, don't take the kidney from them.

48:54

Shame on them. I don't care who it is with doing it. Turned out I donated a kidney to a

48:58

purple heart veteran wonderful fellow. Wow, you do because you

49:02

do that for any higher office. I would never want

49:05

higher office. And I'll tell you why. We have the best congressman in Anthony Di Esposito, and I have a wonderful,

49:10

wonderful Senator and Senator Patricia Cansinarry Fitzpatrick. They are phenomenal.

49:15

They are my partners in every which way. And just

49:18

for the Rabbis again, talk about democrats in office. Very

49:21

few people have been in office as long as I've been. I walked over on jantif to the Lawrence Country Club.

49:26

There was an event a long beach Latino Civic Association.

49:29

This lady comes over to me. You see me in the five pounds because she read the article on the

49:33

post where I apparently said she wasn't. I said, I apologize,

49:36

Who are you? I'm sorry, I'm Laura Gillan. I said, oh, well,

49:39

we never met. I'm in office twenty five years and

49:41

I used to be the vice chair. You're bored and

49:44

we never met. Kind of tells you that there's a problem.

49:47

But I'll tell you what. I have a congressman that

49:49

I've always seen every single day. That's Anthony di Esposito.

49:53

So you know what, I have never seen my Democrat colleagues.

49:56

Ever in my village of Cedar, I said, you know what, I'm the shopping district of the south through along Island.

50:00

Everything in the five pounds revolves around my park. If

50:03

I haven't seen you there, shame.

50:05

On you times in. This has a tough election re

50:07

election battle.

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Doesn't that tough? Wherever you go? He's beloved. They did

50:11

a poll and the poll excluded the entire five pounds.

50:14

They did it ober Yant, so eighteen and a half percent of the electorate wasn't included.

50:18

I did it, really? They did it over of course they did it.

50:22

And this is who the rabbis, these particular rabbis and

50:26

my Democrat colleagues are supporting. It's time to be good Jews.

50:31

You did screw up with this. It's time to be

50:34

proud Jews and not cower from the DSA. Why did

50:37

they do it? We had a not on my dime

50:39

bill that they wanted to put on the floor to

50:41

Carl Hasty's credits. He didn't let it come to committee.

50:44

But one of them should speak out. I have a

50:47

press conference that I invited all of them. In other words,

50:50

any any non for profit that would support Israel, you know,

50:53

should be excluded from any funding in the state. Not

50:56

one of my Democrat colleagues should stand with me. Every

50:59

non Jew and never non firm stood with me. This

51:01

is what we need to cower. Why because they're afraid

51:04

the Democrats Socialists will primary them. I had a wonderful

51:07

colleague who was in charge of the Chaman of people

51:11

with disabilities, claiming Liberal they primary them, knocked them out,

51:15

and they're all worried about Are we worried as Jews

51:18

to have badges on our chest or to do the

51:21

right thing as Americans, the Yorkers and the Jewish people.

51:24

I don't know. My father taught me the right way, you know. I always stated the rabbis, you know, you

51:28

should have a class. The class should be called how

51:31

to be a gentleman? One oh one, and everything else follows.

51:34

From there, and its how to be a men's right,

51:36

that's it, how to be a mens. It's not taught

51:39

before I let you. How's your re election campaign coming along?

51:42

Wonderful?

51:43

Thank God?

51:44

You know you say, wow, you got Long Beach. You know,

51:46

we knocked out the wind turbines that were going to

51:49

destroy Long Beach. Mic my opponents that used to be

51:53

a very nice lady. First supported it. Now she's saying

51:56

she didn't support it. She's not supported because she used to be on the town the city council. I told

52:00

them you better get off of it because your whole

52:02

community is gonna come out against you. And they removed

52:05

her from the board. Very nice lady, though, I have

52:08

to say, she's been very you know, but they were

52:10

going to dig up fats of burbines blocking everything.

52:13

Thank you, yell, I'm Trump campaign for you.

52:16

I know.

52:16

Speaker Johnson was with you the other night, right at.

52:18

Dinner last night with the Speaker Johnson. What a man,

52:22

what a fine person. I have to tell you, I

52:25

really honored to be with him last night. Really was

52:28

an absolute honor. We got a great slate supporters of

52:31

the Jewish people across the board. Can we say that

52:35

about the Democrats? My fellow rabbis, why are you supporting

52:39

a party, even if it's a single candidate, that is

52:42

the party that calls for the destruction of state of Israel?

52:46

Tell me, I'm gonna give everybody the answer. It's the

52:49

story of Loats. When Abram sends the Melachem to Sidome

52:53

and the Stamites around the house. What does loads say,

52:55

take my virgin daughters, do what you will with them,

52:58

but let me save these people. That's the sickness that

53:02

goes to the head. Let the world love me, give

53:04

me a bitch, wake up.

53:05

You get blowback from the Rabbi by speaking up your

53:08

mind and saying calling them to the task.

53:10

I'm one of the oldest state legislators. If you don't

53:12

want to vote for me for that because I'm standing up for the Jewish people, then God will do what

53:16

he wants to do.

53:17

You know.

53:17

Anyway, then we're gonna have to have you back more offins.

53:19

You're not afraid to speak your mind, which I like you say the way you see it, which is a mile.

53:24

In today's day and age, too many people are afraid

53:27

to take a position.

53:28

Like I said. You know, I'm one of the oldest state legislators. I can't speak my mind at this point,

53:33

and you.

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Can't do it. I mean selling me and Auri Brown,

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thank you for joining us.

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