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Welcome back to the program, Moms Zev Brenner. The Yiddish

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Iak coming from all over the yiddishak Coming Yiddish is

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enjoying a revival from people from.

6:16

Literally all over the globe.

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For fifty seven years, YEVO, which people know is preservation

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culture and about Cassidium, and we'll talk about that right now.

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Joining us is Ben Kaplan, director of education for YEVU

6:31

instead of Jewish Research. Devid Brown is the academic director

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of the Evil bart oriole wineran summer programing Yiddish language,

6:39

rich and culture in every year for fifty seven years,

6:41

they brought together people to immerse themselves in Yiddish.

6:44

Thank you for joining us at.

6:45

Frankan Egan Pleasure.

6:47

So who is learning Yiddish? You have this the most

6:51

intensive courses in summertime. You do stuff a year round.

6:55

So who is learning Yiddish? Who wants to learn the language?

6:57

I would say everybody, everybody in every We don't have

7:01

a profile, we don't have a uniform profile for the

7:06

typical Yiddish student, just like you know, anybody learning anything

7:10

is not typically profiled at the university, and we give

7:15

university courses. This is for university credit if people want it.

7:19

These six weeks that we immerse our students in Yiddish,

7:23

and they come from all age ranges. This year alone

7:26

we had students from age sixteen through ay six and

7:30

they come from all interests, and they come from all religions,

7:32

and they come from all backgrounds, and they come from all native languages, and they come from all eye colors

7:37

and skin complexions. Now, of course, naturally it is a

7:41

majority of Jews who are interested in this, because Yiddish

7:46

language is a language of the Jewish people and grew

7:49

up over the past thousand years among them. But the

7:52

reasons are varied. Some are interest in interest in cultural

7:57

heritage and reclamation, in family life, or in genealogy in documents.

8:02

Some are academics who are getting degrees in various areas

8:06

that touch upon Yiddish. So there's no one profile of

8:10

a Yiddish student.

8:11

No, But I noticed that you have people from Iran, Italy, China, Moldova,

8:18

So why would somebody in China and you have more

8:20

than one Chinese individual from I understand studying Yiddish. Why

8:23

would somebody from let's say that part of the world

8:26

want to know Yiddish well.

8:27

The Chinese person is a perfect example. This is a

8:29

student this year that we had who is from China

8:33

and is currently studying in London, I believe, and he

8:37

took the Yiddish Summer program over Zoom. He didn't come

8:41

to us in New York. We have two programs essentially

8:43

in this larger program, there are two modalities of it.

8:48

And this is somebody who got a initial course in

8:52

London and found Ashkenazik culture and history fascinating. And then

8:59

really I think he's an intellectual historian, but just beginning

9:02

his studies, so we'll see where he ends up in the next couple of years. Was fascinated also by his

9:06

own culture and discovered that in the early period of

9:11

the last century when China and Chinese culture and Chinese

9:16

intellectual culture was undergoing a sort of revolution, similar things

9:21

happened between the treatment by Chinese intellectuals to Chinese as

9:26

what happened in the world of Yiddish and Jewish intellectuals

9:29

in Eastern Europe as they were figuring out what to

9:32

do with and how to treat their language. So he

9:36

gave us a presentation in fact that students take part

9:40

in self generated presentations throughout our six weeks so they

9:45

can tell they can teach us what we don't know

9:47

about them and about their intellectual worlds. He discovered that

9:50

the Chinese intellectuals of the nineteen twenties already had their

9:53

eye on Eastern European Yiddish speakers in Vilna and Warsaw,

9:59

et cetera. In that same time, and they looked back

10:03

at the charano Its Conference of nineteen oh eight, the

10:06

first major conference that dealt with the Yiddish language as

10:10

a Jewish question of how to incorporate that language or

10:14

how to associate that language with Jewurry Is it the

10:18

national language, the international language, the only language, one of

10:21

many languages, et cetera. And the Chinese were doing the

10:25

same exact thing.

10:26

They had the.

10:26

Finger on the pulse of what was going on in

10:30

Chaernovits and in Vilna and in Warsaw, and were inspired.

10:34

And you know, there was a movement once upon a time,

10:37

over one hundred years ago to write Chinese in Latin characters,

10:42

so that the whole population could become literate instead of

10:45

the pictogram situation that Chinese has, and they looked at

10:50

the spelling reforms that went through that were first discussed

10:54

at the chair of Its conference in nineteen oh eight, and were inspired by that so phenomenal. Here the Chinese

11:00

one hundred years ago and this young Chinese man are

11:04

interested in and learning what the Yiddish we're doing way

11:09

back when, and here we the Yiddish ourselves get to

11:12

learn about our effect and our inspiration towards other cultures.

11:18

Been you are going to say something.

11:19

Yeah, I was just to say in short.

11:20

Yiddish is an important language in academia today for historical research,

11:25

for archival research, and we have, as Dovid's referencing students

11:30

in Holocaust studies, students in German studies, and literary studies

11:34

in many different fields of academia who need the language.

11:38

It becomes an essential language in their research, and so

11:41

they're publishing. They will go on to publish new books

11:45

of history that incorporate primary source materials. He has millions

11:48

of documents in the Yiddish language and in other languages

11:51

as well. But it's a really important part of the

11:54

history not just in Eastern Europe, as Deva was mentioning,

11:58

but in how the Jews is and you're interacted with

12:01

other cultures and other civilizations.

12:03

Now, my daughter went through EVO Yiddish. She's actually Yiddish major.

12:06

She's now in Harvard though immersed in Yiddish. But Ben,

12:11

tell us about the curriculum. What are you teaching? Are

12:14

you teaching the language? The culture? I noticed you teach

12:16

about Let's let's get involved into it.

12:20

Take us there.

12:21

Sure.

12:21

So in the summer program, we have three core courses.

12:25

Everyone takes every day a language course. DOPA teaches those

12:30

and the higher levels, and they also take a literature course.

12:33

And we usually have anywhere from four to six levels

12:35

of proficiency. From complete beginner. You don't need any prior background.

12:38

Are they're reading in Yiddish or they're reading in English?

12:41

They're going to be reading in Yiddish? Yes, and so

12:43

you know you're getting this full immersion in the language

12:46

and in the culture.

12:48

So what are you reading.

12:50

Ibas Chevis singer Shesh. What are you reading?

12:53

Yes, yes, yes, right. It depends on the level, It

12:57

depends on the teacher. But we have those canonical writers

13:01

like Shoan malchm and Isaac Sheff Singer, and then we

13:03

have more off the beaten path writers we've incorporated, you know,

13:07

curricula these days incorporate more women writers who are not

13:11

included in the canon originally but have been really brought

13:13

back in, and other writers from different regions that may

13:16

not have been in the primary canon but have been

13:19

added in, you know, current literary studies that are important

13:23

to look at. So everyone takes the language courses, the

13:27

literature courses every day, and they also take what we

13:29

call a schmuis or a conversation course three times a week,

13:32

so you're getting that speaking practice as well. We treat

13:35

Yiddish as a living language, of course, and we want

13:38

to make sure that all those language skills are being reinforced.

13:42

And then beyond those core required courses, we typically have

13:46

many different seminars, electives, lectures on varying topics from different

13:50

scholars from around the world, and workshops, and we have

13:54

a music workshop, a singing workshop, we have a theater workshop.

13:57

Have we teach students how to the site for Yiddish

14:00

handwriting in documents. We usually have electives on rotating topics

14:06

on different aspects of Yiddish language, history and culture.

14:09

What to teach about sedum I knowed that was part of the curriculum.

14:12

Yes, So we had a literature seminer this year that

14:15

was focused on Hasidic culture and the literary output of

14:19

Hassidic culture across the centuries. And that was taught by

14:22

Mark Kaplan. So that's just an example of you know,

14:26

various courses we might have throughout the years. And we

14:29

also do walking tours for the students who come to

14:33

us in New York City. So we did a tour of Chsidic Williamsburg. We got a chance to go into

14:39

the Hassidic community and you know, see what it's like

14:43

in a in a Yiddish speaking community today in New

14:46

York City.

14:47

Just two years ago we had a lecture, was it

14:50

two or three? We had a guest lecture. We have

14:52

a series of lectures that are that's associated with the

14:55

program for our students. These are scholars who focus on

14:58

very specific areas of the broad, very broad topic of

15:03

Ashkenazik history and culture. And we had a specialist who

15:07

comes from the Hasidic community in New York and who

15:11

is also a PhDd linguist in the field, and she

15:15

gave us a talk. This is doctor Jiro Ronov. She

15:19

gave us a talk about the Yiddish of current New

15:23

York area Harasidium.

15:24

And that's different than the other side.

15:26

You teach a DIEVO you have more, right, that's Hasidic

15:29

Yiddish is different.

15:30

Well, every Yiddish is different because there are many dialects.

15:33

And what we teach at EVO inside the classroom is,

15:36

you know, essentially classroom Yiddish, the standards that have arisen

15:40

over the past one hundred hundred and twenty years for

15:43

public usage. That is non dialectal, non local, and don't

15:48

pinpoint you as coming from any particular.

15:50

Yeah, but the point is though you probably have the biggest Yiddish speaking population in the world, is the Hasidic

15:55

community yet about thousands of people. So wouldn't it make

15:59

more sense to teach that dialect because if they go

16:01

to Classiitic Williamsburg, or they go anyplace, their chances are

16:04

they're going to speak that kind of Yiddish.

16:06

Well, if they're only here for speaking Yiddish, that's true,

16:10

but if they're also interested in researching Yiddish and speaking

16:14

with anybody who is not of the current day Classidic

16:20

usage population, then they need to know standard Yiddish or

16:24

to be able.

16:25

What do you call that?

16:26

Folk spach? That's the everyday language. Isn't that an expression

16:29

folk sprach the people speak.

16:32

Well maybe folks folks the people's language. The people's language

16:38

though was really everything outside of the classroom language, right,

16:42

So that's that's all the dialects that are out there now.

16:46

I noticed music. What Yiddish music do you portray? Do

16:48

you feature in the classroom or in the course.

16:52

We have various We have an elective on Yiddish music,

16:56

and we have a number of teachers for it and

17:00

a number of performers who join it as well. So

17:04

we have in house representatives of Yiddish music from the

17:09

EVO Sound Recording department and at the say who are

17:13

the experts on printed and recorded Yiddish music and musicology.

17:19

And then we have performers as well who lead song

17:23

sessions and teach our students some of the basics and

17:27

also some of the off the beaten track.

17:29

I give them more of the contemporary because the way

17:32

the biggest Yiddish music is in the Classidic community. In fact,

17:34

we used to carry the Forward radio show, which was

17:37

in Yiddish music, culture, et cetera. But in the final

17:41

years of the Ford Radio Show they featured people like

17:44

Lipa Schmeltzer because that's what was in vogue.

17:47

Sure. Sure, and we've actually had a number of the

17:51

current day hasidim or kind of ex harasidium or on

17:56

their way out but into the modern Orthodox world of

17:59

a great singer doing special interviews with us and special fabrangens.

18:06

You've seen them that have taken the courses, so they don't need to they know Yiddish. I'm just curious if

18:09

any of them participating, well, they actually.

18:12

Do need to because many of them cannot write their

18:15

native language. Remember that they're often not schooled in their

18:18

native language, so they come knowing Yiddish natively, but without

18:24

comfort reading it or writing it since their schooling is limited.

18:29

Said they don't read itsh They have a Viberan Yiddish

18:31

press and you have online, so I can understand why

18:35

wouldn't they be able to read it if they have all these publications that they're reading.

18:39

Because they're not taught it at school. They're typically not

18:42

taught it at school. If they are reading, if they

18:45

are reading, not everybody reads, and not everybody reads to

18:48

the same extent. And remember also that many of these

18:51

communities are quite bilingual with English and Yiddish, or with

18:55

Yiddish and Hebrew, or with Yiddish and Flemish in Antwerp,

19:00

so that not everybody is schooled or is a typical

19:04

Yiddish reader who comes from a Yiddish speaking household.

19:08

Calte English.

19:08

I guess the Yiddish and English right open defence they're

19:11

used to be the way open the vendo I heard anyway, right,

19:14

English has been incorporated into Yiddish.

19:16

Just like every language is incorporated in every language. Whenever

19:19

two communities of different languages are meeting and incorporating each other.

19:25

Anybody from Gaza or Lebanon or any of these countries

19:28

have been I know, Iran, you have somebody. What about

19:30

the other countries that I mentioned? Are they also anybody

19:33

taking Yiddish from those places?

19:35

We have had students in the past couple of years. Yeah.

19:37

Interesting, And did they tell you why they're taking Yiddish

19:39

if they're in Gaza or Lebanon or Saudi Arabia, et cetera.

19:44

Yeah, interest in the Jewish people, interest in Jewish civilization,

19:49

remember that not everybody who is, let's say, a Saudi

19:52

Arabian is a political representative of Saudi Arabia. A person

19:57

might have, you know, independence of thought and be doing

20:00

a set of studies at the university and wants to

20:04

understand the world, not just their country's politics.

20:07

Ben Cavil, director of Education for EVA. Dovid Brown, the

20:10

academic director of the YVO Board your real wine wrap.

20:14

Some are programming Yiddish lag of literer and culture. Why

20:16

do they have a Yiddish word in there too?

20:18

Right?

20:18

Shouldn't they have a Yiddish world into the Yeva?

20:21

All right?

20:22

Are right?

20:23

And Yiddish?

20:24

That's a Yiddish word? And program program is okay? And

20:27

summer you could argue, zoomer, really zoomer.

20:30

Of course, if people want to learn more about YEVA

20:33

and especially the Yiddish program where people can learn Yiddish,

20:36

immerse themselves in Yiddish culture, how can they do so?

20:39

You can visit EVA dot org or the seven program's website.

20:42

Summer program do EVA dot org.

20:44

And every year is getting bigger. So what's some plan

20:46

for next years? I let you go.

20:47

Next year we have our centennial. So YVA is celebrating

20:51

one hundred years. EVA was founded in nineteen twenty five,

20:54

so we'll have our twenty twenty five seven program and

20:56

we'll have some special programming around that.

20:58

So stay tuned, keep us posted.

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26:40

Welcome back to the program, mom, Zev Brenner. Has been

26:42

a long time since we last had Bruce Teitelbaum, former

26:46

chief of staff to Mayor Ruder Giuliani, is now in

26:49

real estate development and he's embarked on a campaign to

26:52

say thank you to Mayor Eric Adams.

26:55

Welcome back to the program.

26:57

Bruce, Thank you, shavelab Zev, thank you, good to be here.

27:01

Good to be with So I know that you're doing ads,

27:04

you're doing a campaign. Why at this point in the history.

27:08

Are you telling Jews, especially in the Orthodox Jewish community,

27:12

say thank you to Mayor Eric Adams.

27:14

Look, zeb everyone knows that this is a perilous time

27:17

for the Jewish community here in New York, in America,

27:20

across the world. Eric Adams has been a friend of

27:23

the Jewish community for twenty five thirty years, in particular

27:27

now with what's going on in college campuses on the

27:30

streets of New York. He stood up for us. He's

27:33

spoken on behalf of us. He's protected us. So he's

27:37

done right by us, and I think is an important

27:39

Jewish value. I think it's important the Jewish community stand

27:42

up and they say thank you to the mayor who

27:45

has been very, very friendly. He's been with us, he

27:47

stood with us. I think it's important that we say

27:50

thank you to him.

27:50

No, I think it's important too. But why now it's

27:53

been this thing has been raised in October seventh? Is

27:56

it because the mayor is embattled with all these investigations.

28:00

I mean, I mean, in particular, you know the Ati place,

28:02

they talk specifically about not only standing up for a friend,

28:06

but when a friend's going through a tough time, and obviously he's going through a difficult time now, a lot

28:11

of people are are being critical.

28:13

He's getting some bad press.

28:15

There are some things happening that are causing obviously a

28:19

lot of focus on what's happening at city Hall and in the city. So I think particularly now, you know,

28:24

when a friend is going through a tough time, you

28:26

know you've got to stand up for friends.

28:27

If not, now, when.

28:29

Does city hall? Are they aware of what you're trying

28:32

to do.

28:32

I haven't spoken to the mayor and some time, nor

28:35

have I spoken to any of the people who work

28:38

for him or or who are as political people.

28:41

I don't think I need to.

28:43

I think, you know, it's important that we individually, collectively communally.

28:49

If there's something that we need to do, we should

28:51

do it. We shouldn't have to be prompted or asked,

28:53

or or coordinate with people. So I haven't spoken to anyone.

28:57

This is something I've done in the past. I've done

28:59

in conjunction with other people in the community. This time,

29:02

I didn't think I wanted to wait. I wanted to

29:05

act quickly, so I did.

29:07

No.

29:08

It's it's it's nice as impressive. What's been the reaction

29:10

so far.

29:12

It's been great. I got.

29:13

I've gotten so many dozens and dozens of phone calls

29:15

from actually interesting from a lot of folks who are

29:18

not Jewish, from from the non Jewish community, folks and

29:21

queens in the Bronx in Manhattan who swear the end

29:25

and said, you know what, you know, you know kla ko,

29:27

good for you. It's important that people stand up for

29:30

the mayor, especially folks who have been who have been

29:33

helped and with the marya show and support to I

29:36

think actually a couple of groups I've spoken to are

29:38

taking the head and they're reprinting it and they're posting

29:41

it themselves, and then they're something that themselves. So I

29:44

think that's terrific and I hope, uh, I hope it

29:46

does something good.

29:48

Well, it's great that you're doing that.

29:49

Now.

29:50

Is it mainly the Frum community that's responding to you.

29:53

Is it a general community? Who's who's responding?

29:56

Yea, you know, it's it's been, it's been. Actually haven't

30:00

received actually a single phone call from anyone in the

30:02

in the Orthodox community. It's been people actually in the

30:05

business community, people you know who I worked with years ago,

30:09

A couple of non Jewish groups, a couple of civic

30:11

groups from Queen's in particular, that saw the ad in

30:16

one of the political pampers in New York. So I

30:18

think that's great because, frankly, I think the Orthodox community,

30:22

more conservative community. I think they appreciate they support the mayor.

30:27

I think it's important that folks were maybe not affiliated

30:30

or not from the Orthodox community, but we're Jewish live

30:34

in the city who are getting, you know, benefit from

30:37

the mayor support. They too should be aware of what's happening.

30:40

And I'm glad that they've responded and they're aware of

30:42

what's happening.

30:43

We're getting some phone calls coming in. Let's see if

30:45

we can sweeze and let's see Ira in Brooklyn or Queens.

30:49

Go ahead, Ira, are you there?

30:50

Mister title Beaum. My sympathies are with Rudy Juliani. I

30:55

don't know what you're going with Mayor Adams about. I mean,

30:58

how could you compare them to come on?

31:00

Please?

31:01

And you were working, mister Giuliani. Is this gratitude? Is

31:05

this a chorus at all? That you're talking about a chorus?

31:10

Yeah?

31:11

I mean, you know, I'm not talking about Rudy Giuliani. Now,

31:15

I'm talking about the current mayor, Rudy Giuliani was the

31:19

mayor of twenty five, thirty years ago.

31:21

He did what he did.

31:23

I'm talking about what's happening in twenty twenty four here

31:25

in New York and trying to express gratitude thanks to

31:29

the person who currently occupies Gracie Manchin and is the

31:33

current mayor of New York.

31:34

And I thank you for your question, but I was

31:37

just curious, Bruce, because Rudy gian is going through hard times.

31:40

Are you in touch with him? Is that something that

31:42

you're involved with it all.

31:43

I haven't been in touch with with the mayor, the

31:46

guy I worked for for a while. Right now, what

31:49

I'm concerned about is what's happening in New York today.

31:52

We live in a very very challenging times, as you

31:55

know at a lot of things are happening in the city,

31:58

a lot of things affecting the jewishmmunity.

32:00

Mayor Adams is the mayor right now, he's the guy

32:03

in charge.

32:04

I think it's important that we acknowledge what he's doing,

32:07

and I think it's important for the Jewish county to

32:10

express their appreciation for what he's doing for us.

32:13

Let's get to Aria and for the phone. I even got the phone on. The phones are ringing. Bruce here,

32:17

Aria and Flapper. Is your question for Bruce title Bounce?

32:20

Yes, I would like to know if you think that

32:22

the Columbia University Jewish students are grateful to Eric Adams

32:27

So waiting several weeks before he sent the police in,

32:31

during which they were afraid to go to classes, they

32:34

were haracked, uh and and physically menaced, and and people

32:38

are saying that if they were if they would demonstrating,

32:41

if the Ku kuks Klan was demonstrating on campus, he

32:44

would have cleared them out in one day.

32:46

So what do you say to that?

32:48

Yeah, it's it's a good question.

32:49

It's not as simple as that Columbia University is a

32:51

private institution and the New York City Police Department is

32:55

not permitted to go on private property. They have to be they have to be invited onto the campus. So

32:59

in the case you're talking about, it was a very

33:02

challenging case. It really it was incumbent upon the people

33:07

who ran Columbia University to work with the NYPD to

33:10

invite them on. So the mayor didn't have the authority

33:13

to unilaterally in day one send the police in I'm

33:18

sure if he had that power he would have done it, but he didn't.

33:21

So it's more complicated than you make it seem.

33:23

Okay, let's go to Juty in Brooklyn. Okay, Judy and Brooklyn.

33:27

Your question for Bruce.

33:30

Could you tell me what we're supposed to be thankful for?

33:33

Could you highlight something?

33:36

Yeah?

33:36

Absolutely, there were several things.

33:38

First of all, the New York City Police Department is working extremely closely with the organized Jewish community. There's been

33:43

extra protection put on Jewish schools, Jewish communal institutions, synagogues

33:48

all across the city. Secondly, the mayor is spoken at

33:51

every single event, major event in the city of New York,

33:54

especially after October seventh, in support of the state of Israel,

33:57

when almost every other politician in New York said thing.

34:00

Third the mayor is working very very closely with the

34:04

leaders of the Jewish community who have asked him for

34:06

extra police protection, especially the upcoming Jewish high Holy Days.

34:10

So I think all of the things that he's done

34:13

that I have just articulated, including the fact that he

34:15

stood up very publicly, very clearly, very unequivocally in support

34:20

of what the Jewish community is going through and in support of the State of Israel. When you compare that

34:25

to the to the silence of the vast majority elective

34:29

officials of the city, I think that's something we should

34:31

be thankful for and grateful for.

34:33

And there's also one of the point to ponder, Bruce,

34:36

is that in today's day and age, if you speak out for Israel, the repercussion, especially on the progressive left,

34:40

they don't take it lying down.

34:42

If you're a supporter of Israel.

34:43

Well, that's the great point in Zev.

34:45

You know that it could be very easy for the mayor who who lives and works in the city where

34:49

there's an increasing progressive community, he can have said simply nothing, which,

34:52

by the way, the vast majority of politicians, especially Jewish

34:55

politicians in New York, have said nothing.

34:58

And Zev's you're making a very good point.

35:00

Part of the reason this is because we're afraid of the

35:02

backlash from the left. Eric Adams was never fearful of that.

35:06

As I said, he was one of the first to

35:08

come out very clearly, very struggling in support of the

35:11

State of Israel, condemning with Hamastid, condemning what's going on

35:16

in Israel and in addition, doing what he could do

35:19

within the limits of the law to protect the Jewish

35:21

community here in New York.

35:23

That's just a fact.

35:24

Who has ringer Bruce Tim I'm former chief of staff

35:26

to Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who is a Republican mayorer, and

35:29

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38:08

Who're listening to Talk Line with Zev Brenner, America's premier

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Jewish broadcast on the year since nineteen eighty one.

38:15

And now here's your host.

38:19

We're back.

38:19

Bruce Tilbaum is our guest, and we're taking your phone call.

38:23

The phones are blazing. Let's go to Henya. Bruce Tilabum

38:26

was former chief of staff to Mayor rud Jiuelani. He's

38:28

in real estate and he's asking Orthodox jew and Jews

38:31

to say thank you to Mayor Eric Adams for a

38:34

strong support for Israel. Let's go to Henya in Crown Heights, Henya,

38:37

Krint Heights, shut Hi.

38:40

First of all, this is the same Bruce Tarlbum that was around Krin Heights during the riots.

38:44

Is that correct?

38:44

That's me, that's you, Okay, So I just wanted to

38:48

make a comment to help you.

38:49

Let me finish it.

38:50

So we are grateful for the police presence that the

38:53

mayor is providing to our synagogues, and that's really nice. However,

38:58

for some reason, it seems that Udlum's feeling power to

39:02

attack juice under Mayor Adams watch.

39:04

Are the mayor for them a way?

39:07

Yes?

39:07

Yes, going through New.

39:09

York one moment, because I'm sure if there were demonstrations

39:13

against Moslims of blacks for what their countries were doing,

39:17

Mayor Adams would never allow these demonstrations to go on here.

39:22

Especially I remember that after nine eleven. Every politician was

39:26

out there yelling and screaming, we're not against moslims 'rony

39:29

against those who attacked us, and all the Mouslims would

39:32

be protected. I'd like Mayor Adams to keep reminding everybody

39:37

that Israel is reacting. They're reacting to burning babies of eyes,

39:41

just to slaughtering people, to shooting them. It's it's not

39:45

that they're doing anything to harm people, it's their reactions.

39:49

It's unconditional to hear that the Israelis are killing innocent Palestinians.

39:54

That's an outright lie hamms terrorists. And this is what

39:57

I want the mayor to keep saying. Terrorists want the

40:00

people to be killed by the retaliation of Israel. Be

40:05

stressed at every conversation. I don't think people are aware.

40:08

I mean they forgot to what happened October seventh. I

40:11

want to know how many orphans of widows are there

40:13

in Israel? Now does that mention?

40:15

Hanya?

40:16

I appreciate your passion. I let brush respond. We have

40:19

other people waiting online, but you want to comment, Yeah.

40:23

I mean, I think, Henya, I appreciate your comments.

40:25

You should listen to the speech the mayor made a

40:28

couple months ago at a rally I attended. It was

40:30

one of the most beautiful and passioned speeches. Everything you

40:33

said he said in that speech. The mayor repeatedly says

40:36

what you've just said, over and over and over again.

40:39

You got to understand something. He's the mayor of New York.

40:41

He's not the mayor of Jerusalem. He's not the mayor of Israel. And for someone to stand up and to

40:46

do what he's done, especially Hanyell, when you consider the

40:50

relative silence of almost every other political figure in this city,

40:54

in the state, including Jewish politicians, you have to give

40:58

him credit, and by the way, explain something else to

41:00

you if we don't give him credit. The message that

41:04

we're sending to politicians around the city is that no

41:07

matter what they do, and I'm not saying every time

41:10

they do what you think is the best or as

41:12

much as they should do.

41:13

But the messager's.

41:14

Sending is, you know something, the Jewish community either doesn't

41:17

care or they want more, given what's going on in

41:20

this country, in the city, in the state, and around

41:22

the world, to have the mayor of New York, an

41:25

African American mayor of New York who has ev pointed

41:28

out before, is in the city now that is becoming

41:31

increasingly progressive and left for him to stand up and

41:34

to say what he has said and defend issual.

41:36

The way he has done it is commendable.

41:39

It may not be perfect, it may not be as

41:41

much as you want, but it's darn good response.

41:44

I agree with what you say. I just don't agree

41:48

with the demonstrations that he's allowing to go on. He

41:51

would never allow the demonstrations.

41:53

Nya kenya, nya hanya. Let me CanYa, listen to me.

41:57

I hear what you're saying. There's something called the First Amendment,

42:01

and there's something called the freedom of assembly, and unfortunately.

42:09

Blackbird's finished, and then we have a lot of way

42:11

and go ahead.

42:11

Can I can? I agree with you.

42:13

I agree with I agree in the sense that what's

42:16

going on in this city is terrible. It's not his fall.

42:19

First of all, he is acting I think appropriately. He's

42:22

acting in the best interest of the city and I

42:24

think the Jewish community, and I think what we need

42:27

to say is by the way, heny, I would agree

42:29

with mister mayor, thank you, you're doing good.

42:31

Do more.

42:32

That's okay, But we gotta thank him. We gotta say that.

42:35

We got to tell him we understand and support what

42:37

he's doing for us.

42:38

You want to urge him to do more.

42:40

That's okay, hen Y, thank you for your car.

42:43

I appreciate the peace of the country.

42:46

God, we have to do that.

42:47

Hen You, thank you. It's nice hearing from you. Let's

42:50

got to stand in Forest Hills.

42:52

Obviously, you're not doing this for no reason at all.

42:55

Are you going to be working for the re election

42:58

of the mayor?

42:58

No, absolutely not.

42:59

I'm not for any reason other than for the reason

43:01

that I said, Stan, I don't work for the mayor.

43:04

I'm out on this political campaign. I don't get any

43:06

benefit from the mayor. I'm doing this because as a

43:10

person who's lived in the city for a long time,

43:12

person who's been in politics, I can tell you, Stan,

43:15

politicians are very sensitive. They read the paper, they listened

43:19

about the show.

43:20

Oh yeah, yeah, that's sensitive, all right.

43:22

As someone has worked for political people, it is important.

43:25

I'm telling you, Stan, I've been there. It's important that

43:27

when a politician goes out and does something, it's important

43:31

that they get feedback from the community.

43:32

Now, again, some people might think it's not good enough.

43:35

But I'm telling you that the mayor has stood up,

43:38

and I think it's important for us to say thank

43:41

you for what you've done. You want to say do more,

43:44

you can say that, but I think it's important here

43:46

in the stands that we're listening, we appreciate it, and

43:49

we're thankful for what he's done for us.

43:51

Let me ask your question. You are a Republican, are

43:53

you not? I am Okay, I would assume you're a

43:56

loyal Republican. Okay, let me ask you this question, putting

44:00

you on the spot. Okay, the man you supported for

44:03

over twenty five years, the former mayor has been literally

44:08

destroyed by what has happened to him, undeservedly so because

44:13

of the cases in Georgia, and he owes money and

44:16

now he's in Florida and hiding or whatever. And to

44:19

blame for that is Donald Trump. But do you support

44:22

Donald Trump for president?

44:23

You know? I tell you asked me to come on the show to talk about it.

44:26

I know what I am.

44:27

I had a whole question. Understand. Let the man speak,

44:30

go ahead.

44:31

Let them answer it, go ahead. I have no problem.

44:33

Yeah, I mean, frankly, my supporter not support of Trump.

44:37

Is not relevant. I'm here to do one thing. I

44:39

live in New York City. I'm concerned about in New York City. I'm concerned about the Jewish community here in

44:43

New York and I'm here to tell people we're living

44:46

in very perilous timestand you know that it is important.

44:51

It's important that the Jewish community stand up religious not religious,

44:54

old young, but Manhattan, Brooklyn, wherever you are, it is important,

44:58

given what's happening in this city, to tell our leaders,

45:02

especially the one who runs the city, thank you for

45:05

listening and being concerned and standing up.

45:07

For the Jewish community. Period. Am I talking about Trump Giuliani?

45:12

Well, have other calls and we have an email one.

45:16

Wait quick, wait when the federal government is finished with

45:19

its investigation of him, then I'll thank him. If he's

45:22

not guilty of anything.

45:23

Way waiting when I thank him before. If you like what he did, thank you.

45:26

No, I'll wait to see what the Fed's got on him.

45:29

If they have anything, then I'll thank them.

45:31

All Right, Okay, are your premier point? Thank you, Let's

45:34

go to you. Let's go to your heel or is

45:37

your tough?

45:39

I know? Go Wait to the next email question. Anyway,

45:41

go ahead, your go ahead, your heel.

45:43

How much express my appreciation from what you are saying

45:46

that you have to have a crossotalphic he is it's

45:51

a true Oh have you strow and hopefully every buying

45:54

the juish author dox community with realized just just not

45:57

just not point Donald Trump, who is being targeted by

46:01

FB and being a political enemy of the Democrats in camera,

46:04

but he is our friend. The exact thing thing with

46:08

Emic Adams. He's being targeted by the FBI being their enemy,

46:12

and he's also our friends. So he should be supporting

46:15

Downald Trump and k Anans for the same reason. Yeah,

46:19

one hundred percent right, Oh at a concertop and he

46:21

should know that me appreciate everything he's doing.

46:24

Anyway, thank you for your phone. I appreciate it. Thank you.

46:27

Let me excuse him.

46:27

One email question, clock is sticking BC rights. Eric Adams

46:31

does not deserve any kudos at all considering the lawlessness

46:34

taking place in New York City. The NYPD under his

46:37

leadership has failed miserably and will not win a second term.

46:40

Your response, well, I don't I don't agree.

46:43

I think the city is safer than it was, certainly

46:45

under the disastrous mayor we had three years ago. The

46:48

city crime is almost is down in almost every significant category.

46:52

But beyond the beyond that, again, I want to refocus

46:55

the audience.

46:56

I'm talking about one thing. We have anti Semites.

47:00

Jew hater is running around the city, protesting, threatening, bullying,

47:05

attacking Jews all over the city and the City of

47:08

New York. The mayor of the police Department is doing

47:10

everything they can to combat that, stand up for the

47:12

community and speak out against it.

47:14

That is what I'm speaking about.

47:16

It is heartening to know that we have a mayor,

47:19

especially with the high holidays approaching, the high holidays approaching,

47:22

that is working with this community. He understands what the

47:25

issues are, he understands the pressure we're under. He understands

47:28

the anti semitism, and it's not his fault that is

47:31

anti semitism in the city. He is standing up for us,

47:34

he's listening to us, He's concerned about us, and that

47:37

is all I am saying.

47:38

And another one, by the way, you Bruce, you made a very important point before they want to talk about

47:44

now is not just Mayor Eric Adams. There are a

47:46

lot of elected officials that have gone on a limb

47:48

supporting Israel, and you speak to some of them and

47:52

they will tell you that the male, the email, the

47:54

phone calls coming into their office is anti Israel. Not

47:58

enough people are saying thanks you. And I'll tell you

48:00

about that.

48:01

THEV one thousand per Zev. You should know that.

48:03

You know there are certain Jewish organizations that take elected

48:06

officials on trips to Israel's, missions to Israel's I've spoken

48:10

to some of these elected officials that hate mail that

48:12

they get. Their offices are flooded with emails and phone calls.

48:17

I don't think people really realize how serious this the

48:21

problem of anti Semitism is in this city, and how

48:24

these politicians, a lot of them are subjected to organized

48:28

groups that go after them if they say anything this

48:31

point of Israel. The easy thing to do, and this

48:33

is the points that have the simple and easy thing to do is to say nothing at all. People here

48:37

represent New York, they don't represent Israel. A lot of

48:40

these elected officials could say nothing.

48:42

And the problems a lot of people who hate Israel

48:45

get on the phone, send emails and contact elected officials

48:49

and we don't say thank you. And I just want

48:51

to say there was a gentleman. I think his name

48:53

was Pharaoh Maizell. He was worth Ofox. He was a

48:56

program director at Channel nine. Had interviewed him. They did

48:59

a specially maybe in Israel sixty I don't remember the

49:02

exact year, and they did a wonderful all day special

49:05

showing the greatness of Israel. When I interviewed him after

49:07

the broadcast, I say, will you do it again?

49:10

He goes, absolutely not. I go why not? He goes?

49:13

People call it to complain.

49:14

Nobody calls to say thank you, And I think that's

49:17

a lie that we have to learn from elected officials.

49:20

If they're going out on a limb, if they're supporting

49:22

our community, we have to say thank you. And I

49:24

think it's a great point. But saying thank you, how

49:27

do you should people say thank you?

49:28

Bruce?

49:29

Here's the question? Should be calling him? How should they

49:31

do it?

49:32

It's very simple. You can email city hall. Call city Hall.

49:36

The number is on any you go on the website,

49:38

call him, email him, send them a letter. When you

49:41

see him in the city in a parade or at an event, thank him. That's what you need to do.

49:46

Let me tell you one other things up. I think you were there this year at the Issual Day parade. Yes,

49:50

you were there. Did you see the security that the

49:52

mayor ordered for that parade?

49:53

Did you say it was heavy?

49:55

It was.

49:57

Unprecedented, unprecedented. Those are the kinds of things that are importing.

50:02

But to say thank you, you can email them, call him,

50:04

write a letter, call city who all all sorts of

50:06

things you can do. You see him, just walk up

50:09

to them, mister mayor, thank you for supporting the Jewish community.

50:13

That's the end of the story.

50:14

No, absolutely, Now, how are you getting your message whereus?

50:17

You're promoting it here of Quesse on this program. Where

50:20

else are you? Are you out?

50:21

Previously?

50:22

By the way back, I think it was in January

50:25

we placed the series of ads and newspapers thanking the

50:27

mayor because after the October seventh master he spoke out forcefully,

50:32

eloquently and repeatedly.

50:34

I had put some ads in certain papers. I've done

50:36

that now.

50:37

I did it previously with some other members of the Jewish community, and hopefully, as if we've talked about this,

50:41

I like to do it more. I think it's important,

50:44

especially now because he's under some pressure right now and

50:47

there are things happening he needs listen it's a very

50:50

very big Jewish value. Stand up for your friends, haikara

50:54

tatov and when your friends in need, especially when the

50:56

friends in need, it's important, especially then to say we're

50:59

with you and we're gonna support you, and that's all

51:02

I'm trying to do.

51:03

And listen, I commend you for doing that, and to

51:07

say thank you is a wonderful thing. Can they do more?

51:10

Can you do better? That's another issue. But if they

51:12

go on a limb, we have an obligation not just

51:15

to marry Eric Adam's but to others elected officials and

51:18

to say them Richard Torris example, even Christian Gillibrand has

51:22

gone on a limb. And for Israel, we have to

51:24

really go on a limb and say thank you. That's

51:27

the least we can do.

51:28

Absolutely.

51:28

And by the Richie Torres you mentioned, Congresman Torre is

51:31

one of the greatest friends of Israel, huge, huge, huge, huge,

51:35

right great, And I can tell you because Richie's a friend,

51:38

he knows he appreciates the support he gets.

51:41

It's very important.

51:42

Politicians need to know that people are supporting them. Otherwise,

51:47

you know a lot of them may not go in a limit. They may just say nothing.

51:50

Absolutely correct, Bruce Tabo, former chieve of SAPs. So you're

51:53

spending most of the day in real estate. Correct, I'm trying.

51:56

You know, it's tough. Got to keep the head above water.

51:58

Do what you can. You know, you know, if you

52:00

know the routine, I know, I know. It's good to

52:03

have you back. It's been a long time, so we appreciate.

52:05

We got to get you back more often to look

52:07

at them and seth.

52:08

You know what I remember I told you earlier is I remember doing this twenty thirty years ago when New

52:12

Jersey and we were together a lot during the old

52:15

Giuliani days, and that was great. Times are different. I

52:18

appreciate what you do. You're a great voice for the community.

52:22

You've been around for a long time. Sterling, superb, excellent show,

52:26

audience is great.

52:27

I appreciate the opportunity.

52:29

Thank you, we'll have you back again. And then really thank you for coming up with the idea of corsto

52:33

to Mayor Eric Adams. He deserves that speaking out whatever

52:36

other issues out there concerning him, does not take away

52:39

from the fact that we have an obligation, a religious

52:42

obligation to say thank you for people who do good

52:46

for our community.

52:47

Especially before the Jewish New Year. So thank you, Bruce Sef.

52:50

Thank you have a very happy health of New Year. Thank you so much.

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