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b r D e jo V. My name is Jacob Viscus,

6:07

director of Marketing and Distribution for Bartiov Films, and I

6:10

want to tell you a little bit more about Bartiev. It's based on a true story and it reveals the

6:14

daring plan devised by Rafuel Loewie, a successful winemaker, and

6:19

he was the leader of the community of Bartiev. And

6:22

he devises a plan to save the young women of

6:25

Bartiev from being included in the first official Jewish transport

6:29

to Auschwitz. I'm not going to tell you how, but

6:31

it's incredibly ingenious but also dangerous. This is not just

6:35

another Holocaust movie. This is a story about the power

6:38

of tafila, of prayer, the strength of community to take

6:42

even the darkest and most powerful forces on and it's

6:45

a story about never backing down. Even more remarkable, the

6:49

film was produced by a Holocaust survivor from the town

6:52

of Bartiev. His name is Emil Fish, founder of Yeshiva

6:56

University's Emil and Jennyfish Center for Holocaust and Genocide Studies.

7:00

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7:02

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7:06

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7:24

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7:29

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You're listening to talk Line with Zev Brenner, America's premier

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And now here's your host.

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And we're back. You know, there are a fair amount

7:54

of Holocaust movies that are out there, but not all

7:56

of them are family friendly, not all of them really.

7:59

Also to the film the Orthodox Jewish Marketplace. There's a

8:02

fantastic film that came out recently called bardiov about a

8:05

Holocaust Jewish leader, a leader of a community who saved

8:09

lots of young women during the Holocausts. With us right

8:12

now is Jacob Fiscus. He himself is a documentary filmmaker.

8:15

His film On the Tree of Life was on HBO

8:19

and he's a director of marketing for the film Bardioff.

8:22

So welcome to the program. Thank you for joining us.

8:25

Oh, it's an honor to be on talk Line with you.

8:27

You know, we all know you in the world. A.

8:30

Zev and it's Momo Shanata. Thank you for having me.

8:32

So I did watch the film, Barjow. I love the film,

8:35

but I have to tell you there is a family connection.

8:37

I don't if you're aware that we have to the film.

8:40

The film is about a Holocaust. Well goes back to

8:44

the leader of a town. First, let's let's tell the

8:46

synopsis of the story. They I'll tell you our connection.

8:49

Sure, so I can give you a synopsis. So it's

8:51

a very very unique story. It takes place in Bartiov

8:55

in Slovakia, and Bartiov is a very unique town in

8:59

Eastern Europe. It's Jewish history is very robust, very rich.

9:03

You know, we all know the Halberstam Hasidic dynasty. Halberstam

9:08

was the chief rabbi there for a period of time, the town rabbi. And so the film takes place in

9:14

nineteen forty two, the start of the war. And so

9:19

the Helnka Guard, which is the group in Slovakia that

9:24

were Nazi collaborators. They were instructed by the Nazis to

9:28

round up all the Jewish girls in Slovakia. They come

9:30

to Bartia. But the community leader was a very strong man.

9:34

His name was Raffula Loewi a very very incredible man

9:38

of hero and he needed to figure out a way

9:41

to save these girls, and he came up with something

9:45

that was incredibly dangerous but also ingenious. And I'm not

9:49

going to give it away because I want people to watch the film, but he finds a way to save

9:54

these girls. And a lot of people don't realize this

9:57

that this roundup of these Jewish girls in Slovaka, he

10:00

was going to be the very first and it was the very first transport Jewish transport to Auschwitz, So a

10:07

little bit of history there. This was the very first

10:09

Jews transport to Auschwitz. But no girls from Bartie were included,

10:13

and that's because of Ruffula Lowe played by Robert Dave

10:17

who people might know him from Die Hard from License

10:21

to Kill, which is a James Bond film, so die

10:23

and Kill, but this film very goes into a very different.

10:28

People lived, people live because of him.

10:30

People lived because of him and uh And Robert dove

10:34

performance is fantastic embodies the character uh And and Neil

10:39

who's the producer who will get to in a minute, was very much particular about him, you know, portraying Lowie

10:45

who wears you know, he wears a black hat in the film as a very authentically you know, orthodox Jewish person.

10:54

So uh, it does a great job and represents our

10:57

people well on screen. And even though he's not Jewish,

11:01

he's a huge fan of the Medina off screen, of

11:03

the of the State of Israel. He'd been a staunch defender.

11:06

He's appeared on Fox, newt and elsewhere defending the Jewish people.

11:10

He goes huge lover of Omnu Treell like everybody should be.

11:13

Absolutely, and the film was a feel good film because

11:17

there's a happy ending. If there could be a happy

11:20

ending in a holocaust film, is certainly that is. But

11:22

the connection is rafull. Lowie is the grandfather of of

11:28

somebody who's very close to our family. So wow.

11:32

Wow.

11:33

So Rudy, he's my my, my My daughter is married

11:39

to Sam, and Sam's mother is married to Rudy.

11:43

Okay, they watch the film.

11:44

Yes, In fact, I was at the time they watched

11:47

the film, and they can vouch for the authenticity. And

11:49

I was at the film premiere with Amil Fish which

11:52

they had in New York a number of months ago, which was a great premiere. And listen, it's a film

11:57

that's that's really you know, you don't have a lot of films that are family friend A lot of films

12:01

could be. They have to put in curse words and they have to put in things that make it less

12:06

family friendly. And for sure, a film that's you know,

12:09

con catered to Jewish crowds, concatered to Christian krause that

12:11

are looking for filmed entertainment.

12:14

It's to me, it's universal. You know, these days we divide,

12:18

we have all these different genres, faith states, not faith based,

12:20

but it's authentic. I mean, this was a town of Yiddin,

12:23

of Jews that they they had a plan. They were

12:27

trying to come up with a plan. But they didn't just stop. They didn't just gather together to come up

12:32

with a plan. They went into the shool and they

12:34

dobvined and they faxed it and that was the that's

12:37

portrayed in the film. These are people that had a

12:40

muna and the immuna carried them through. And we certainly

12:43

don't see stories like that, at least scripted stories, right

12:47

like films, scripted films, we don't see that. Really, I

12:51

can't think of many and I certainly can't think of

12:53

many films produced by a survivor from the town that

12:58

the film is takes place in. It's incredibly unique, and

13:02

you know, Emil has dedicated his life. In the beginning

13:05

of the movie, you see like it's it's it's a

13:08

modern day scene where he makes a nether that he's

13:11

going he's gonna make sure people remember his town, and

13:14

he's doing that. Besides for the film, he has this

13:18

nonprofit organization called Bardi of Jewish Preservation Committee. He's rebuilt

13:22

the Institutish institutions there, the synagogue. There were two synagogues

13:26

that were essentially storage facilities, and he came in. He said,

13:30

what's going on over here? He cleaned them out, he's

13:32

rebuilding them. He's rebuilt the mikvah. He's doing incredible, incredible

13:36

work to And you know, as we were talking about,

13:40

there's a lot of people defending anti Semitism, and we're

13:42

so focused. Let's let's mention every single time someone says

13:45

something that nice, so we can be outraged about it

13:48

and defend ourselves. But we have to stop playing defense

13:51

as the people and be proud of who we are and play offense. This is a pro seme pro semitism film.

13:56

And Emil is a pro Semitism type of person, and

13:59

that's the stuff that he doing. We should be proud to be Jews. We should wear it on our sleeves.

14:03

That were people who believe in God and allow God

14:07

to guide us while also of course doing the work.

14:10

And really that's what makes this film to me special

14:13

and unique.

14:14

Well, amble Fish also he's someone who's committed and he

14:17

did the movie which is fantastic. And he also has

14:21

right he's connected with Yucia University.

14:23

They have oh absolutely absolutely the Emil and Jenny Fish

14:27

Center for Genocide and hal Koch Studies. You know, a meal,

14:31

He's distant. This is what he's about remembering and fighting

14:36

through showing how wonderful we are as a people.

14:41

And the film is available, and we'll mentioned a couple

14:44

of times. It's not available in movie theaters, but you

14:46

can watch it online a variety of the popular places

14:50

where you can go. Tell everybody where they can watch this film.

14:53

Sure, Sure, you can rent the film for five ninety

14:56

nine on Amazon, Prime, Apple, TV plats, Google Play, Vimeo, YouTube,

15:04

you can rent it on YouTube, and I believe I

15:08

mentioned everything Android too. I believe so variety of plates

15:12

is a lot of weights to get it, and I can't recommend it enough. If you're going to be uh,

15:16

you know, lounging around on Paulmoid evening one evening and

15:19

you want something to do with your family, this is

15:21

a really valuable way to spend your time in entertaining

15:23

one too exactly.

15:24

And the message is really an uplifting message because you

15:27

have the leadership of one individual or full Lowly, who

15:31

was able to come up with and out of the

15:33

box plant I'm not going to give away, but you.

15:37

Know, Lowly of course is the singular your hero, but

15:41

the community as a whole, right, it's to me, it's

15:43

a it's an illustration of Jews where we're we're we're

15:47

we have communities all over the place, and this is

15:50

a tech book, textbook example of the strength of community,

15:53

the power of community to fight off even the most

15:56

powerful darket force imaginable, which you wouldn't think, no way,

16:00

this little community is gonna ward off the Nazi threat,

16:04

and they do it. They do it. So it's about community,

16:07

it's about a muna and absolutely it's it's a beautiful

16:11

film with great teams.

16:12

And what's a fine interesting in today's DNA's used to

16:14

be you have to go to a movie theater. That was a big thing. Now movies even bypassed the movie theaters, right,

16:20

you go straight to the public, and you're doing it through Google and through Prime and through other medium as well.

16:26

Constantly evolving landscape. Yeah, very different. And personally, as a

16:31

film buff, I don't like watching movies on small screens.

16:33

I like it on big screens. But this is the

16:35

way people like to consume media and films these days.

16:39

So it is what it is, and it's still great

16:42

whether you watch it on a small screen or big screen.

16:44

Well. You also, one of the things that I like about the fact is that you know you're able to

16:48

take this movie film and take it to community. So

16:52

if you are a school or a synagogue organization and

16:55

you don't want to watch it on your computer or

16:58

your phone, you can actually have a screening in a

17:01

synagogue or an organization or whatever it might be.

17:03

Absolutely, you can visit shoahroo dot com and you can

17:08

go ahead and book a community screening if you you know,

17:11

you're community member, president of a shule, kargregan of a

17:14

shool and you like the film or a community center

17:17

or even if you're not Jewish and you have you're

17:20

part of some kind of a house of worship or

17:22

community center and you want to screen this very faith based,

17:26

faith oriented film. You can go on the show A

17:29

Hero s h O a h hero dot com and

17:32

you can scroll down and you'll see an option to

17:35

go ahead and book of screening, and you fill out

17:37

the form and book of screening and would be absolutely

17:39

honored and thrilled to be able to do that.

17:42

Jacob Fisk is with us, director of market for Bardio Films,

17:45

and it's a family friendly film that's really doing very

17:49

very well because it has a uplifting message of Rafaull

17:53

Lowie who saved a whole bunch of young women from

17:56

going to Austras by coming up with a concept out

17:59

of the box that worked. It's a true story. I

18:02

know it because, as I said earlier, related to Rudy Lowe,

18:05

whose grandfather was the hero of the film itself. So you,

18:10

I know you love films, and I know that's why

18:12

you're passionate about and this is this is just the beginning,

18:15

right even though emil Fish is his first film, but

18:18

I think he got the taste for doing more films

18:20

that they're family friendly, that Jews and also Christians could

18:24

watch a lot of Christians who want family friendly films

18:27

that were able to watch the film too.

18:29

Absolutely, I can't say what the films are going to

18:33

be about or anything like that, but I can say that a meal fish got the film bug and he

18:38

wants to make more of them, and he is making

18:41

more of them. They're they're currently in production. There's a

18:43

couple in production. I can't give release states or anything

18:46

about that. But what I can't say is it's a

18:49

blessing to the world to have somebody who just dedicated

18:52

Hami thrill to the Jewish people and too really good

18:55

faith and God and the meal is to be making films.

18:59

And so the film projects that they are, they are

19:02

you know in the in the pipeline, are going to be very much similar in theme to Barty of not

19:06

all holocausts, of course, there's gonna be a variety of

19:09

period pieces and you know, modern day pieces, so lots

19:13

to look forward to, and and uh, you should be

19:15

able to lookout.

19:16

Now you're a film buff, there are quite a bit

19:18

of Holocaust films that have been made than are even

19:21

being made right now as we speak. So this is

19:23

a little bit different, I should say, even though it's

19:26

not the time here should a monus time. And what makes this film different other Holocaust films that are out there?

19:31

Yeah, absolutely, the Hollywood has become absolutely infatuated with the Holocaust.

19:37

There are I think there's two or three Warsaw Ghetto

19:41

movies coming out literally next year. And that's just Warsaw Ghetto.

19:45

There's I think a dozen projects coming out big ones

19:48

within the next year and several years. They just compantly

19:51

turn them out, and I think people are getting a little bit of fatigued by them. What makes Party of

19:57

Difference is, to me, without a doubt, is the the muna,

20:01

the faith element to it. We don't see, uh, you know.

20:05

So you know, Hollywood doesn't make a lot of movies

20:07

about you know, faith and and people who are devoutly

20:11

religious and proud of it and used religion, uh and

20:14

their faith in God to to to get through tremendous challenges.

20:19

And I think that that's what makes this particular film unique.

20:22

It's not shy at all about that. It's it's all

20:25

about that. And what another thing that I think makes

20:28

it really unique is again a survivor from Bardiyev made

20:32

a film called Bardiov. I don't, I don't. I can't

20:36

think of any uh, And I'm pretty plugged into this world,

20:39

and I can't think of any Holocaust film that had

20:43

been produced by a that was an on set giving

20:47

directions to people and had been working with the director. Uh.

20:50

That that was the survivor. You know, he survived, Emil

20:53

survived bergen Belsen, he was supported from Bardiev to the

20:57

berg and Balston survived. And so I think it's incredibly

21:01

unique and a very special film in that.

21:05

Right now, you mentioned the power of prayer that comes

21:08

to forth the film. You have some scenes about the

21:10

fast of est Tin and Esther, and you have seen

21:13

some machol, but you make it all so different because

21:15

you know your dealings is showing the beauty of Jewish life.

21:18

Let's talk about it the essential part of the film too.

21:22

Yeah. Absolutely, you know there is a fasting sequence and

21:27

like a perm sequence. And it's not just the fast thing,

21:29

it's not just feelon crying. They're celebrating and these are

21:33

people who are under first of all, Mam, starving, very

21:37

hungry because access to food and work and all these

21:41

and money and all these things are dissipated, and here

21:45

they are saying, in the face of that, we're gonna

21:48

jump up and down and dancing. We all know how Perham is having an absolutely fantastic time and and then

21:55

and they do that. It's incredibly inspiring. Uh. It's maybe

21:58

my favorite part of the film actually is to see that,

22:00

because you're just like, wow, that's how incredible is it

22:03

that they're able to do that amidst the threat that's

22:06

looming over them. They don't know what's going to happen.

22:09

They know that this is just the beginning, right of

22:12

the holocout of the hars to come, but they are

22:16

absolutely staunch about dominating and of course about celebrating, celebrating

22:21

life and celebrating being a Jew.

22:24

And it's very accessible because, as you mentioned, you can

22:27

get it on Amazon, Apple, TV, YouTube, Google Play, Verizon.

22:30

I'm sure more places will come into play too. And

22:33

so because there's a film now in Netflix which should

22:37

have been a it's not a family friendly film and

22:40

the ending is a horrible ending, which is making people

22:43

a lot of people are talking about it, So it's nice to see something that people can get also that

22:48

it's family friendly. That's true. It's a true story and

22:52

true of heroism during the Holocaust and not your typical

22:55

Holocaust movie too, and that's what makes it distinctive.

22:58

So absolutely really need a message now of of hope

23:03

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23:07

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23:10

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23:12

As a matter of fact, being who you are is

23:15

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what the world is waiting for, for us to be who we are and that and that's what we need.

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So this film, where's where's Amistra, Where's Yiddish? Kai Judaism

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And of course it's great to family. Your family can

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whether it's from Kalamosukus or Pasa or any time, it's good.

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Then tell people if you're an organization or your yeshiva,

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Film Emil, will you know, eighty nine years old kicking,

23:51

he's still kicking. He can take both of us on.

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I'm telling you right now. But with that being said,

23:58

can he come to every place to to every screening? No,

24:01

but if there's a big enough crowd, I mean you will make the treck to to to be there at tiler,

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24:11

He's got completely open to that.

24:13

So tell everybody how they can find a more information

24:16

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24:17

Sure, you can find out more information on the film

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h hero dot com and you can learn more information

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So Jacob Fiscus, he's director of marketing for Boudio Films.

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It's not just one film. You can't tell us what

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Can you tell us tell you anything? Death you're gonna have?

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You know, there's not enough you can pay me to

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But can you tell you? Can you tell you?

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When I can't even tell you, it'll be out, Zev.

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Everyone's just going to have to wait in anticipation from

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31:44

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31:47

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31:50

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will not back, how we'll guarantee as we secure for generations.

32:00

And he's ranked in the year twenty twenty three as

32:03

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32:07

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Semeyer and a General Amir Viv thank you for joining us,

32:17

my pleasure, thank you, thank you. So tell us dude

32:21

about the cap the elimination of the number one terrorists

32:24

of Ramas. We're talking about what happened a couple of

32:27

days ago, was Cinema? Was it completely by chance? Was

32:32

Israel monitoring and tracking him? Tell us a little bit

32:34

more details about what transpired.

32:36

Well, Israel has been monitoring sin Wa throughout the war.

32:41

He was moving most of the time between Rafa and

32:44

the Hanunez. The tire thing of Hinwa did happen by chance,

32:49

but also not by chance, meaning it wasn't because of

32:52

aacuate intelligence and the fact.

32:54

That that I knew where he was.

32:58

But when you are consistent, when you are fighting every

33:01

day on the ground, woods on the ground and closing

33:04

on the terrorists, eventually you also get to the leadership.

33:10

And Sinlouar was moving in an area very close to

33:15

the Egyptian border where the Gaza Division is deployed along

33:21

the Philadelphia corridor, And as they were expanding this corridor

33:26

and searching houses, they had an engagement with the terror cells.

33:34

They didn't know it was Sinouar. There were four or

33:36

five terrorists which they fought, and afterwards when they searched areas,

33:42

they saw that the Sinoir.

33:46

Now the conventionalism was that Sinoir had surrounded himself by

33:50

Israeli hostages, so be hard to get them because he

33:53

would be using them as a human shield. The fact

33:56

that there were noways really harshes around him is that

34:00

is that a bad sign for the release or the

34:03

capture of Israeli hostages that might be held.

34:06

We know that at a certain point it was with

34:09

the six saustages that were murdered, but most of the

34:14

hostages are held near the sea in their El Balach area,

34:20

in an area that at the moment idea is not

34:24

operating because there are hostages there. So I think that

34:30

the killing of Sinoir gives us more chance to release hostages.

34:36

I think that Paresian society is getting fed up of

34:39

the situation. Most of them are stuck intents along the sea.

34:43

They don't see the war ending. They see you know,

34:46

all of Gaza and rebels, and they don't see any

34:50

point to continue the war. So they're getting fed up

34:53

with Hamas that is also abusing them, shooting them, using

34:57

them as human shields not really represent I think the society.

35:02

So when they see the leader killed and the idea

35:04

of continuing to operate constantly, and I think will reach

35:09

a point at a certain state where you know, since

35:12

we start breaking up.

35:14

The society, and the society will be fed up of

35:17

what is happening.

35:18

Maybe some of the terrorists will understand that this is fruitless.

35:21

It's not going anywhere.

35:23

We have to be consistent and continue to do what

35:26

we're doing systematically, dismantling the hamasa's military and governmental entity.

35:32

So who is running the show for hamasos and eliminate

35:35

a lot of top commanders also eliminated, So who is

35:39

running the show and who can Israel talk to about

35:42

possibly negotiating releases of the hostages.

35:45

So that avn't shows a replacement yet.

35:48

On the military side, it seems that it's his brother

35:51

Muhammad running the show together with another guy that was

35:59

the gain the brigate commander of the Gaza area. And

36:04

outside of Gaza you have a guy named Khalil haya

36:08

Is in Egypt towards the deputy of a Finmar is

36:11

also the one that they talked on the media after

36:15

Sinewa was skilled, saying that they will continue to fight

36:18

and so on. We still have leaders of Hamas that

36:21

we need to target. We haven't finished the job yet,

36:26

but this is done systematically. They're also very bottled and

36:30

very very extreme, just like sin one, not really people

36:33

you can talk to.

36:34

So we need to continue and fight until.

36:37

We really reach the terms needed to release the hostages

36:41

and to destroy Hamas.

36:43

Now there is talk. The President of the United States,

36:46

Joe Biden, said, now is the time to maybe make

36:48

a deal because sin War is the will there be

36:52

pressure on Israel to make a deal because sine War

36:55

has been eliminated.

36:56

Well, you need two sides to make a deal.

36:59

I mean in as long as say we can get

37:02

a deal that is according to the parameter set by Israel,

37:05

meaning we're not going to stop the war, We're not

37:08

going to retreit a from the Egyptian border. We're willing

37:13

to have a ceasefire for a few weeks to do

37:17

the change and get our hostages.

37:20

If we can reach these terms, there might be a deal.

37:24

But if not, Israel is not going to stop the war,

37:28

not going to requit until all goals of all are reached,

37:31

meaning eradicating Hamas as the military governmental entity, bringing back

37:35

all the hostages, and also creating the terms that in

37:39

Gaza never again there will be a terror army. This

37:42

war is not going to end with Hamas ruling Gaza.

37:46

Hamas is not going to rule Gas anymore when this

37:48

war will end.

37:49

So who is going to rule Gaza when the war ends?

37:52

So I believe that in the long term it could

37:55

be probably local leadership of clans in the cities. It's

37:59

not going to be the Palestinian and authority. Not Haramas

38:02

and not the Palestina and is Stamic. They're all very

38:04

extreme radical organizations. So you really can base it only

38:10

on the local leadership. And also we really need to

38:14

look into the process of the radicalization of this society,

38:18

which will take many, many years. So anybody who is

38:21

looking for shortcuts and how to finish this fast, that

38:25

that goodly understand the reality on the ground. You cannot

38:27

change things just by cutting some deal. You need to

38:32

deradicalize the whole society.

38:34

Does that mean Israel will be in Ghaza for years

38:36

to come?

38:38

Yeah, definitely as well, it's going to be many many

38:41

years in Gaza. Also, this mantaining all this ter infrastructure

38:45

will take years. It's not something that they will happen fast.

38:48

It's a process. It's a long term process.

38:50

Does Israel face the prospect of a gorilla warfare because

38:54

now that you have Ramas leadership in this array, will

38:57

you have Tramas terrorists just engage in guerrilla warfare.

39:01

Yeah, we are in a gorilla warfare, but we set

39:04

the terms for the destruction of Hamas. They cannot renew themselves,

39:07

they cannot smuggle, they cannot produce anything, so eventually they

39:13

will run out of munitions. And I think that if

39:19

we continue to do what we're doing, we constantly degraded capabilities.

39:24

We have to remember, we killed Sineoir, the leader, the hero.

39:28

Following that, they didn't manage to shoot one rocket or

39:31

you can't even one attack, So this is where they are.

39:35

We have degraded dramatically, dramatically the capabilities. And I want

39:40

to remagine that on the seventh of October, in one day,

39:43

they shot four thousand rockets.

39:45

Now they cannot shoot one.

39:46

So we're moving towards the sisive victory.

39:50

But this kind of for for a text time.

39:53

Now Sineware's body does Israel half his body? Yeah, and

39:56

that could be part of the negotiations when you release

39:59

the Hushers, as far as releasing his body too.

40:01

Yeah.

40:02

Now, one thing puzzles me is that you know we've

40:05

had lopsided deals. In fact, Sine was given out as

40:09

one thousand plus terrorists that were traded for Gila Shalit,

40:12

and even though they were warned the doctor dentists who

40:16

helped cure him said he's a dangerous man, it was ignored.

40:19

Would it not be better in Israel's interest to impose

40:22

the death penalty and terrorists who killed Jews should be

40:25

executed for their crimes.

40:27

Well, there is a discussion in Israel about this issue,

40:32

serious discussion certainly talking about the look materalist that massacred

40:37

the people on the seventh of October, Well, say where.

40:40

This is going.

40:41

It's not very easy, looking at his culture, to really

40:46

impose this kind of penalty.

40:50

But I think if any time would be ripe will

40:52

be now with people who've lost so many loved ones

40:56

after October seventh, I think the sentiment might be that

40:59

these terrorist should not be put in prison and be

41:01

traded to do it again, because the fact is these

41:04

terrorists will let go like Sinoir and Uh and we

41:08

saved one is really, but we lost many Israeli lies

41:10

by freeing him.

41:11

I think that it has to do also, you know,

41:14

our fighting and one of the really challenges in a

41:18

war like that is keep international legitimacy in the fight.

41:22

Looking at the current administration, looking at the part of Europe,

41:28

this is the one thing that you know, can affect

41:31

the legitimacy. So we'll have to wait and see what

41:34

will happen in the elections in the US and what

41:37

kind of sentiment we'll see in the next administration to know.

41:41

How relevant this is to push this kind of low our.

41:45

Israeli is hoping that Donald Trump returned to the White House.

41:48

Well, you know, overall, I think that there is what

41:52

was so not intervene in, you know, in American politics,

41:55

But I can say that it's crucial that the next

41:59

Admins administration would show leadership in the Middle East and

42:03

be willing to deal militarily with Iran. The only way

42:07

to really shorten this war is not ceasefires and not

42:10

Sitney anything. It's really destroying the nuclear plans of Iran

42:14

and hitting them hard. And this is what is going

42:17

to really do a change in the Middle List. We

42:20

have to break this shier access. Israel is doing it

42:23

by itself and we're handing on a silver plate the

42:27

Middle East to you know, to the US, and it's

42:30

time the USA takes leadership and joins the fight and

42:35

deals with Iran and the hooties and the militias in

42:38

Iraq and what Israel did in a week or two

42:41

in Libanon, a coalition can do in three days in Iran.

42:45

It's not boots on the ground, it's not a long war.

42:48

It's really a major air strike on all these relevant sites.

42:52

And this will change completely for the best with the

42:56

list and will create the terms needed for promoting peace

43:01

and stability and building a big alliance, you know, with

43:06

Saudi Arabia that could extend all the way to Indonesia

43:10

and Malaysia and Pakistan, Oman, the Emirrates and so on.

43:14

Will Prime Minister attack the nuclear facilities in the World Wals,

43:18

according to what President Joe Biden say, doesn't want the

43:21

nuclear facilities or the world wells attacked, and the Primer

43:25

seems to indicate that he won't do it.

43:27

It's not about what is where he is going to

43:29

attack now, because it's just the beginning of a long

43:33

term campaign against Iran.

43:35

That's like the war in Gaza.

43:37

It's not a day or one attack and the war

43:40

in Liberal And also it's not about one airstrike. When

43:45

you talk about the country that is more than a

43:49

thousand miles from Israel.

43:51

And it's also not about one airstrike.

43:54

It's a long term campaign that will continue throughout the

44:00

elections and after there will be a new president in

44:05

the White House. And this is why this is so crucial,

44:09

that will have a president that is willing to fight,

44:13

because there can be two scenarios. Either as well to

44:17

find itself as we are fighting Iran, continuing to have

44:21

to rely on ourselves only, or we'll see America really

44:27

stepping and fighting together.

44:30

It's a completely different scenario.

44:32

Do you have any idea when the Israel We're going

44:35

to attack? I ran further for what it did a

44:37

couple of weeks ago. It seems like it's dragging on.

44:40

Is either waiting the elections, is going to happen imminent?

44:43

What's your opinion.

44:44

I think it might happen before the elections, but again

44:48

I think it's a very tactical issue.

44:49

It's not really the big story.

44:51

The big story is that Israel is not going to

44:55

stop this war until this Iranian on its sneeze and

45:01

doesn't pose any sweat to Israel anymo or not now

45:05

and not in the future.

45:07

And this is the first Iranian Israel you wre and

45:10

the last one.

45:10

We're going to really make sure that the Iranians are

45:15

not going to pose a sweat. Now the question is how we're going to do this alone or is the

45:20

US going to lead a coalition, because these are two

45:23

very different scenarios.

45:25

Talk to me Levin and taught me as Bola, how

45:27

have been They've been degraded, Their leadership has been decimated.

45:31

How many of the missiles have been destroyed?

45:34

So Asrael, it's systematically degrading his Balla capabilities. I think

45:40

more than seventy percent of the be side the rockets

45:43

have been destroyed. But really the big issue is not

45:46

that it's really hitting the leadership. Almost all the leadership

45:50

of his Bala has been targeted, both the strategic leadership

45:54

and the tactical leadership, and this is continuing.

45:58

Just in the last two weeks.

46:00

Is Well killed the fifteen hundred terrorists of his Bala

46:05

in the.

46:05

Grounding cursion and continue the strikes.

46:07

They say, we see many many of his Ballad terrorists

46:10

fleeing the area and not really fighting.

46:14

And the Idea is doing a very very good job.

46:17

The idea is controlling all the Thebanese towns along the

46:22

Israeli borders work his Balad building huge infrastructure to enable

46:28

them to storm Israeli towns, and this infrastructure is being

46:32

systematically destroyed. And as this is happening, the air force

46:37

is continuing to strike all the time and degrade more

46:40

and more his Balach capabilities.

46:44

At the beginning, the notion one one that we want.

46:48

To reach a resolution one seven on one that says

46:51

that there can be no forces in South Libanon. But

46:56

now as weel it's not talking about one seven on

46:59

one anymore. It's talking about one five five nine resolution

47:04

was that was passed in two thousand and four that

47:06

says that the Lebanese the sovereignty must be respected and

47:13

all militias must be dismantled, and also the Syrians must

47:18

get out of Libanon. So basically, now, as well as

47:21

looking at completely dismantling his Bala and imposing this resolution

47:27

for that, we need also the international community and we

47:30

need the Libanie to step up and say, okay, this

47:33

is our opportunity to get rid of this terrible level

47:36

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47:40

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47:44

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47:46

And bid for themselves a new future.

47:49

And when this connects also to the idea of building

47:54

an alliance and American Israeli Sunni alliance, this will be

47:58

also the Lebanese the opportunity to join this alliance. And

48:04

oh no, maybe your tool will see a peace agreement

48:07

Inezuela and Lebanon.

48:08

Everything United Nations forces are so lev and they're not

48:11

doing anything. They're really turned the blind eye. When his

48:14

ball was building all these underground bunkers and tunnels and infrastructure,

48:20

in fact, a lot of houses, have you know, weapons

48:22

from his bowler all as rule the man, the United

48:24

Nations leave south and level because they're really hindrance.

48:27

Yeah.

48:27

No, it's it's obvious that even if it is not

48:30

doing anything, all the positions, the huge, huge infrastructure his

48:34

Balla bid was hundreds of meters from.

48:36

You know you, positions that are completely useless.

48:40

And this is why it's so important that the Lebanese

48:44

themselves the responsibility for the future and mobilize the Lebanese army.

48:51

This is not going to happen until they feel that

48:54

is Bala falling apart. This is why we need to

48:59

sustain the will continue attacking fiercely Chrisabala and they until

49:05

the moment where the bands feel strong enough to deal

49:09

with them.

49:09

Now they have tunnels. They say that his bowl is

49:14

more sophisticate in Hamas, and the tunnels a bit more sophistical.

49:16

Which is all surprised at the tunnels because I read

49:20

years ago that they were digging the tunn is going

49:22

into Israel. So what about the tunnels. How deep and

49:26

how sophisticated are they.

49:29

They're not deep and they're not sophisticated for a very

49:33

simple reason.

49:35

It's very very hard to dig in this area.

49:39

It's all rocks. It's not like Gaza Gaza. It's very

49:44

easy to dig. And this is why you can dig

49:46

very deep and very sophisticated in Libanon. This tunnels the

49:50

two three meters underground. It's solid rock. And because it's

49:56

hard to dig, you don't try to be sophisticated. You

49:59

just dig what you need.

50:01

So there are tunnels, some of them long.

50:04

They build the whole headquarters underground, and this is what

50:08

is destroying this systematically. Most of the tunnels are in

50:12

the vicinity of the Israeli border. And this is what

50:16

we're dealing with. But this is does this doesn't look

50:20

anything like what we saw in Gaza.

50:22

Because the reports were that that his Ball was planning

50:25

in October seven type of attack on Israel using tunnels,

50:29

trying to get into Israel, kill, kidnapped, et cetera. Tell

50:34

us about some of those plans that seem coming to

50:37

for coming to public eye right now.

50:40

Yeah, so exactly what they planned.

50:43

They built a hug infrastructure near the border in all

50:46

the towns in the vicinity of Israel to launch an

50:50

attack of tens of thousands of LAD one forces and

50:56

massacre all the Israeli towns, just as Hamastid.

51:00

Now some proports out that Israel is running out of

51:03

munitions because of the constant usage in whether it's in

51:07

the Gaza or in the Lebanon. What is the story

51:11

about israel munitions? Are they going to be able to continue?

51:15

Israeli industries are producing more and more munitions every day

51:20

that passes. New factories are being built, new lines of

51:24

productions that are being built, and Israel is not lacking

51:29

munitions at all at the moment.

51:32

We have much more munitions now than we are then.

51:34

The seventh of October and in a year or two,

51:38

Israel will be one of the biggest producers of munitions

51:41

in the in the world. Things are moving very very

51:44

fast and Israel as being able to sustain the war.

51:48

And it's what we see is every day that passes,

51:53

Israel is getting stronger and stronger, and every day that

51:57

passes our enemies are getting weaker, and we could we

52:01

just need to really continue this pass until their destruction.

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