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5:01

Is Lehi Lapie. She's a best selling Israeli author, photo journalist, columnist, activists.

5:07

She's written cookbooks and children's books since she's written the

5:10

three novels. Her latest one is called On her Own

5:13

and is published in the United It's actually published by

5:17

an American publisher, by HarperCollins, and the first time that

5:20

she's book is appearing in the United States. So welcome

5:23

to the program. Thank you for joining us, thank you for inviting me, and I might as she's also the

5:27

wife of former Prime Minister Yar Lapid, who's leader of

5:30

Israel's opposition Yayatid. So we appreciate you being here with us.

5:35

You wrote your book before October seventh, but it came

5:38

out in English after October seventh. So I'm curious to

5:41

know where you were able to get speaking engagements in bookstores?

5:45

Are the publishers promoting your book, because after October seven,

5:49

we're finding Jewish authors are having a hard time. You're

5:52

Jewish Israeli, your husband is the prime minister of former

5:55

prime minister of Israel. So I want to know what

5:57

it's been like for you.

5:58

Actually, it was hard. It was hard from two sides.

6:03

One was that there was war. There is war here

6:08

in Israel now, so living here was really something that

6:15

I was thinking whether I should do or not a

6:19

time like that. But I did take a week to

6:23

go to New York to do a book launch. But

6:30

we found out it was very surprising because we didn't

6:33

realize that that's what's happening.

6:35

But no bookstore wanted to do a book launch.

6:41

Everybody said like, we don't have time or something like that,

6:45

and we're talking about, you know, signing books in a bookstore,

6:48

and it's.

6:49

Not so complicated.

6:50

We just wanted an hour, and then in Little Manhattan

6:55

we couldn't find I think I think slowly we realized

7:01

and at the end even we were told that that

7:06

it's it's probably the fact that no one wants demonstrations

7:11

and riots outside their books quiet store.

7:16

But the publishers didn't tell you that. The publishers told

7:19

you that all kinds of other fact. They didn't say,

7:22

you got they're afraid correct.

7:24

What they said is that they approached a lot of

7:29

stores and each one said, oh, I'm sorry, it's not

7:34

comfortable for me at that time, and they said we

7:38

have a week, just say an hour or something, and slowly,

7:42

and then I told them, listen, I think, I think

7:46

you don't understand.

7:47

It's it's it's because I'm three things.

7:51

I'm Jewish, I'm Israeli, and I'm.

7:54

My husband is in Israeli politics.

7:56

So yeah, So I asked people and they said I

8:04

asked other authors that I know from the Jewish world,

8:07

and they told me that it's probably that.

8:10

It is that in fact, they're boycotting Jewish authors. I

8:14

know in England they won't publish some Jewish authors because

8:17

they're Jewish. United States is not much better. So there

8:20

is a problem of anti Semitism. Have you that affected

8:24

the sale of your books so far in the United States?

8:28

In your opinion, I.

8:29

Think so I don't know the numbers. So I'm and

8:33

I'm like, I'm doing whatever I can in the Jewish community.

8:37

I just decided that I'll.

8:39

Try the Jewish community, the people that are still listening

8:44

and still talking among ourselves. But I definitely think that,

8:50

you know, I had this dream that the book will

8:54

be in stores and no one will care that it's

8:56

Israeli and maybe they will love Israel or something and

9:00

want to read about it.

9:01

But and it's also a very Israeli book, so.

9:05

It's not even a book about politics. It's more about relationships.

9:09

Yeah.

9:09

Yeah, it's a novel. It's a novel. It's a family.

9:12

It's about family. One of the most important things in

9:17

the book or I don't know. The center of the

9:20

book is a guy that lives in America and he's

9:25

an Israeli and his mother stayed here. He's her only

9:29

child after her his brother died in the war thirty

9:33

years ago, many many years ago.

9:35

I think what.

9:38

I am happy that the book is published now in

9:43

America is that when people read it, they realize what

9:47

it is for us Israel is a soldier, because I

9:53

think in other countries a soldier is a guy that

9:55

wanted to fight, and his dream was to be a fighter.

10:00

And in Israel, it's just someone that finishes high school

10:03

and you have to go to the army. That that's it.

10:07

And you went to the army to in fact, you met your husband. Yeah, you're lookeated in the army. Correct.

10:11

I was a newspaper photo photographer in the in the

10:17

I d F newspaper and so I was I photographed

10:23

all over the army. It was it was amazing and

10:27

I was the second woman ever in the job. So

10:32

so it was also something I never thought about it,

10:35

but it was super cool.

10:36

So you were a trail blazers. Let me ask you this question. Did you ever consider going into politics?

10:43

No, No, I don't think.

10:45

I'm I'm not tough enough. I think, and you know,

10:52

you have to to suffer insults and bad things being

10:57

told about you, and I'm like, it's it's even difficult

11:02

for me to be an Ear's wife at that sense.

11:06

Like I'm once every few weeks I find myself really

11:12

fighting with someone saying you don't understand, and so so

11:18

I'm like, I care. I care too much. I do

11:23

think that the politician needs to care. I see an

11:28

Ear that he cares. He cares very much, and I

11:32

think the moment you don't care at all, you need

11:35

to leave politics.

11:37

So let me ask this question. You're getting the insults anyway.

11:40

Your husband is controversial. You know, he's a kid. Some

11:44

people like the party, some people don't. You have problems

11:46

with the worth of ex community. So you're getting the

11:48

insults anyway. So why not go full turkey and run

11:52

for office yourself.

11:54

I donated my husband to that, to that. I think

12:00

he's doing such an important job. And to be opposition

12:06

today in Israel, it's a complicated thing a time of war.

12:12

To be with the soldiers and with them helping.

12:17

Helping the country at war, it's super important, but also

12:23

to remember the things that we don't agree that are

12:28

happening and to talk about the things that needs to

12:31

be different.

12:33

And it's also very important.

12:35

Now we after October seventh. There was a tremendous unity

12:38

in Israel. Before October seventh, division, fighting the Supreme Court,

12:43

all these issues came to fore. Are we seeing a

12:47

frame of that unity in Israel today?

12:50

I think no. I think there are not a lot

12:53

of unity now. Because first of all, you are right

12:57

at the beginning it was amazing, and it was amazing,

13:02

it was heartwarming, it was unbelievable, and it gave so

13:08

much strength. And this in a way still continues because

13:13

I think the Israeli army is outside of the fight.

13:19

The fight is about to do or not to do

13:22

a deal.

13:23

How the deal needs to look like? And the day after?

13:28

What is the day after?

13:29

What are we going to do at the day after

13:32

the war?

13:34

So some of you know, yesterday I went to the hospital,

13:41

to Shiva Hospital to help with There's a guy that

13:45

gives the computers to wounded soldiers and I saw eighteen

13:52

twenty years old guys with no arm, with no leg.

13:59

You know, breaks your heart, It breaks your heart. Some

14:03

of them are succeeding in smiling. You see the worried mothers,

14:08

and it's heartbreaking. So in that sense, we have to

14:12

be together and we have to hold hands and we

14:16

have to stick for to be one day the day after.

14:23

For it's a horrible price. It's a horrible price we're paying.

14:28

It's heart branching. You see the soldiers without limbs and

14:31

they still want to fight, They still have that spirit.

14:34

It's just wonderful how they have that love for Israel

14:37

for love for the country. But it's heartbreaking to see

14:40

them in the hospitals and the wounded and again, and

14:44

you see the whole world is ganged up upon Israel.

14:47

Yeah, it's so sad because we were attacked. We were

14:51

attacked in a way, you know, And I'm thinking about it.

14:55

No one was angry with America after nine eleven when

15:00

they wanted to find the guilty people and punish them.

15:05

And I can't understand how come we were hurt so much?

15:10

And how come people are angry with us people from

15:15

other countries.

15:16

You know what, I'll tell you another thing.

15:19

People we have Yeah, and me our daughter is twenty

15:24

seven and she's and she's autistic, and.

15:29

You know, I see her and her friends.

15:33

Sitting in a safe room, gathered together, fearing from what's

15:39

happening from the noise outside, not knowing. How can you

15:43

explain to them what is happening and why is someone

15:47

wants to kill them? It's like crazy, it's crazy. There's

15:52

a friend of mine, she's told me she's from Aza

15:56

Gaza village and she's she told me how she sits

16:01

for thirty hours hugging her autistic daughter that just want

16:06

to go out of the shelter and open the light

16:10

and have her iPad. So it's crazy and the fact

16:15

that they are not mercying us, and it's really devastating.

16:21

And I'll tell you another thing I was expected. I

16:27

expected from the women organization to help us with the

16:33

women in captivity. There are young women, we know how

16:37

dangerous it is for them to be there. Where is

16:41

the you and women organization? Where is the organizations of women?

16:46

I remember when Malala was the Afghanic girl was shots

16:55

because she wanted to go to school.

16:57

We were all for her. We didn't care if.

16:59

She's Muslim or Jewish or Christian. How come they are

17:04

not there for those women. So yeah, a lot of

17:09

hypocrisy I saw.

17:10

Well the United Nations. I don't know if you're word. There's an exhibit right now about terrorism. Not a word

17:15

about Israeli victims of terrorism. Not a single photo. There's

17:19

one of a Palestinian girl who actually was not even

17:23

in the area, in a different country. Even they had

17:25

a poster of her, but not a single victim of

17:27

visual This is at the United Nations, the height of

17:30

hic apostrophy. It's just terrible, terrible, how the world Views.

17:33

It there are so many good people Jewish An Israelis

17:39

that are trying to help and trying to raise the

17:43

voice of really listening to what's happening here, and it's

17:48

heartbreaking that the UN is doing such an exhibition and

17:53

nothing about what we are going through here.

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Lot Peter's are She's a best selling author in Israel, photojournalist, columnist, activists.

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How Has October seventh, changed you and your family and

23:20

your husband who's the prime former prime minister of Israel. I.

23:23

Think it changed every Israeli that is here.

23:31

You know, Usually people ask me when they hear something

23:35

in the news about Israel, and I'm telling them, listen, it's.

23:38

Not so bad.

23:40

Everything is okay, will be okay. This time it is bad.

23:45

And we found out that we are more fragile than

23:51

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23:56

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24:04

Suddenly we are a little bit more afraid, more worried.

24:09

And so I think this changed and got into each

24:15

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24:19

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24:25

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24:27

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24:32

How is Israeli needs to look at the the next

24:35

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24:38

we keep it safe? How can we keep it and

24:42

you know what can we make it happy again? Because

24:47

now it's super sad, and how we'll get to the

24:51

point that it's happy. You know, it's being in Israel

24:56

is all the time thinking am I willing? Is it worthwhile?

25:02

The price that we are paying for living here.

25:06

And now there's a lot of us that are really

25:10

united in even because of what you said, because we

25:15

see the anti Semitism outside. So we say we have

25:20

to keep Israel, we have to keep Israel strong, and

25:23

it's important for the whole Jewish people.

25:25

So we are fighting for that.

25:28

And well you find for every single Jew. And by

25:30

the way, you know, if God forbid, there wondn't be

25:33

a state of Israel. Jews be even more danger because

25:35

let's look at the facts. October seventh day of most

25:39

Jews killed since the Holocaust. But the next day Israel

25:42

gets back and retaliates and fights, and God willing will

25:47

be vindicated, will win at the end of the day. Just unfortunately taking too long. We got to get the

25:51

hostages home, we got to get rid of Hamas, but

25:54

they're always going to be Hasbola Iran. You have these

25:57

groups that want to hurt and destroy is but thank

26:01

God is real, we're strong, and their strength is in

26:03

the unity. If we can keep that unity going, that's

26:06

the most important thing in my opinion and other people's opinion.

26:09

And the difference between what we went through the Holocaust

26:14

and now is that the day after Israel was there.

26:18

Instrael was there with her airplanes and with the with

26:23

the soldiers, so it didn't continue until the end. So yes,

26:29

so it's very important to keep Israel strong. But it's

26:33

also important to think, how can how can we make

26:39

it happy again?

26:41

How can we make it safe one day?

26:44

Because because also coming and telling ourselves that we'll always

26:50

live at wars, between one war and another, there should

26:56

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26:59

For the store.

27:00

There will be a good ending. As a writer, I

27:04

know you can write a happy ending in the book, but in.

27:07

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27:12

Well, listen before October seventh, I don't know what the

27:15

survey is. They said Israel is one of the happiest

27:17

places in the world to live. I forgot what the

27:19

number was. If it was high up there.

27:21

When you pay a huge price about something, you appreciate

27:25

it more like when we are sick or we have

27:29

someone that is sick with only then we think how

27:33

happy it is to be healthy.

27:35

So also in Israel, and we have to.

27:39

Keep it to keep life here worthwhile, and it should

27:45

be good.

27:46

No, it's important. So let me ask you this question. One of the issues that's come up recently. Of course,

27:50

is aradium in the army creatim in society. So how

27:54

do you deal with I know that there's a perception

27:57

that your husband was not sympathetic to thet I spoke

28:00

to about Dove Lippen. He told me otherwise. So from

28:03

your perspective, and unity is so important, how do we

28:07

work together all of us religious, secular, right wing, left

28:12

wing in Israel so we don't tear the country apart

28:14

once peace comes.

28:15

You know, it's like in a family when you have

28:18

brothers and sisters. You can't that just one kid will

28:24

do the dishes always and the rest will sit and eat. Okay,

28:29

everyone needs to give their hand and help, and each

28:33

one needs to do something. And the already community can't

28:38

anymore not go to the army. There are a lot

28:41

of things that they can do that can help other

28:45

soldiers go to combat. They can you know, there's there's

28:51

a profession of that. Usually women are doing it. It's

28:56

called that spit aniot, which is that they look from

29:00

far away on the computer. Yeah, so they can do it,

29:06

no problem, and they can do it. They can do

29:08

so many things, But the more important thing is the

29:13

moral thing. Again, I'm coming back after being yesterday in

29:17

the hospital, seeing young kids without a leg, without a hand.

29:23

You can't live in Israel and say this is the

29:28

obligation of someone else. My kids won't go and those

29:33

kids will go. Believe me, when my son went to

29:37

the army and he went to the tanks, and and

29:41

I have him, and I have another daughter, which she's

29:45

statistic and everything, and it was I didn't.

29:48

Sleep for three years. I was worried like crazy.

29:53

If something will happen to him, I wouldn't forgive myself.

29:58

So how come I need to do it and someone

30:01

else it's okay that he doesn't. So that's it's like,

30:05

I don't know. Would you say in America someone needs

30:08

to pay taxes and the rest won't. It's it's crazy.

30:13

So that's the tax that we pay, but it's in

30:16

blood and each one needs to give his hand. And

30:22

you know what, if they would come and say, we

30:25

really want, let's think of how we can do it.

30:30

But they're demonstrating people now Orthodoxy Jews in Israel demonstrating

30:36

will die and we won't go to the army.

30:41

When when when.

30:42

Our kids are dying because they went to the army.

30:46

So so it's it's not anymore.

30:49

It's not just intellectual discussion.

30:52

So I might add, and I've seen those demonstrations, and

30:55

you've seen them in Israel. But Ellie Paley, who's the

30:58

founder of the publisher of Mishpacha, which is one of

31:00

the largest Haadi public public publications in Israel, he said

31:05

on this program, and he said he's working on a

31:07

proposal with Jewish organizations where Haadi individuals at the age

31:12

of twenty five should do homeland security and other issues.

31:15

I like the idea. There has to be some way of working things out. And there are a lot.

31:21

Of Listen, there are a lot of religious young women

31:27

that they do the teaching schools, they help with people

31:32

with disabilities. You know, they need to come with an

31:36

open heart to do something, to say we are coming

31:39

for two or three years and we are doing something

31:42

in their community, in our community. There are so many

31:46

things they can do, and it's just morally wrong to

31:52

say everybody else go to the army protect us.

31:57

I think it's changing. You have knakkaradi, you have moved,

32:00

and I think it can't be legislative, but has been negotiated,

32:03

not just from my perspective here.

32:06

There are a lot of ready soldiers doing the army,

32:12

doing such wonderful things. We saw them in the in

32:15

the war. Yes, and when they come home sometimes they

32:19

need to take off their uniforms because people are saying

32:24

bad things about them.

32:26

I think that's changed somewhat during the war. I think

32:29

that's changed people respect more. In fact, there's a video

32:33

that I think I saw where you had, you know,

32:36

a Paradi car pulled up with little kids with payout

32:40

and they go to the soldiers and they bring a bag and here's the snacks, we say for you. You

32:43

see pictures like that and videos like it exists out there.

32:47

We just have to build on it.

32:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you are right.

32:53

I think what happened to us that this war made

32:59

they realized that it's not just something we're talking about.

33:04

It's not just a political thing. It's really life here.

33:09

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33:13

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33:16

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33:21

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in is you know one of the things that impressed

39:02

me by the way recently is I see a lot of Jews in America and around the world have said

39:07

I want to help, and they've been providing army. They've

39:10

providing gear for the Israeli Army, boots, night goggles, drones.

39:16

How do you feel about it? And one, I love the fact that American Jews and others are helping. On

39:21

the other hand, I find it embarrassing the Israeli Army

39:24

was so ill prepared.

39:26

Yeah, the fact that they needed to send things for

39:30

the army is really embarrassing. But I do think that

39:35

it was the first time that we Israelis, we were

39:39

really moved by how much they wanted.

39:44

To help, and all the missions and all the.

39:47

Things that people sent from America and from Jews all

39:52

over the world. So it was it was the first

39:54

time that I so gratitude, real gratitude of Israelis, and

40:00

I saw that more Israel's Israelis are more thankful and

40:07

appreciate the fact that we have Jews around the world.

40:12

Fighting for us, helping us.

40:15

Each video that we saw of someone talking on Columbia

40:19

University for Israel, we shared and so suddenly Israeli Is

40:28

we're looking to see what the Jewish world is saying

40:33

about us, and each thing of support was really appreciated.

40:39

So in a way, it was nice to see at

40:43

this war, we saw the diaspora in Israel.

40:48

Together.

40:49

It didn't happen for so many years like that, so

40:52

strong and so important for us and for you guys.

40:56

So it was really touching.

40:58

One young man, Daniel, he's a businessman and he was

41:03

on this program. He raised over ten million dollars by

41:06

himself to provide gear for the Israeli Army. One individual.

41:10

He raised over ten million dollars. He was in business.

41:14

I know other people that gave up occupation to get

41:17

boots and other equipment for Israel. Just amazing to see

41:21

how people resourceful. They are. Again, they're not fun to raise,

41:24

but they raised and they actually gave the money to Israel,

41:26

which I'm very impressed by by that. Here's the issue,

41:29

and I know your husband is not Prime minister right now,

41:32

but the big issue is and I don't have an

41:35

answer for it, and I don't envy the Prime Minister of isral whoever the prime minister is. Is On the one hand,

41:40

you want to bring hostages home, but you release terrorists

41:44

that are dangerous. They're going to kill Jews another day.

41:47

Sinhwar was freed in the Galic ch Elite swap deal.

41:51

He was they were warned that he should nation let him go. He's dangerous. And look how dangerous he is.

41:56

You have people blood in their hands. So on the

41:58

one hand, you want to get the hostages. On the other hands, you reala is terrorist that you know, we're

42:01

just going to wait for another day to kill us again.

42:04

I don't know how you balance it out.

42:06

You're not going to complicate it complicate me in politics,

42:10

but I will say something that I have to say

42:14

about it. We have young women being in captivity with terrorists.

42:22

We need to bring them back.

42:25

Home, no matter the price.

42:28

I'm not saying no matter what the price, but the

42:30

price now.

42:31

Is like with tiny details for here and for there.

42:37

It's not the huge gap that was at the beginning

42:40

that we couldn't think of what they asked. It's different now.

42:45

The gaps are small, and I think Israel is strong

42:50

enough and smart enough to decide later what are we

42:56

doing doing And the fact that we made mistakes once

43:00

doesn't mean we have to make the same mistakes again.

43:03

So I'm saying, we can save people's life now, and

43:10

they are dying by the day, and it's like, we

43:14

don't have we don't have another day, we don't have

43:17

another week. That's the time to do the deal, and

43:21

then we need to think what we're doing next.

43:25

No, it's listen. I understand the parents, and I understand

43:29

the need that these not only the young women but

43:32

the men are being tortured and brutalized by these terroristies.

43:36

Are not human beings. These are just terrible, the worst

43:40

of the worst that we have. But the problem is,

43:43

and again maybe you just get them out now and

43:46

worry about it down the road, but you know there's

43:48

going to be a problem down the road where The's are going to free these terrorists because some of them

43:52

that they're demanding are those with blood on their hands

43:55

that will kill Jews. Again, there's no question about that.

43:57

But it's a tough issue. Again, I don't have a solution for it, and it's.

44:01

A tough issue. But you know, I'll tell you what.

44:05

We know that among us there will be a lot

44:09

of people that will get into their car and will

44:13

die one day in a car accident. It will happen.

44:16

It happens.

44:18

But if we can save one person that now we

44:22

know that I don't know that we can save him.

44:26

Maybe it's not a good example. Those people are alive,

44:31

not a lot of them, and we need to bring

44:34

them back home now. And I believe Israel is a

44:40

strong country, clever and smart, and she will know how

44:45

to deal with it down the road and not to

44:48

make mistakes anymore. Like that.

44:52

I find our conversation fast and just a few moments

44:55

left our scaris to get your reaction. I know that

44:58

your book is having trouble. Any Israeli or any Jewish

45:01

authors having problems, bookstores don't want to feature them. Publishers

45:06

don't want to publish works of Jewish authors because of

45:08

the climate. And unfortunately, while we spoke about American Jews

45:13

who've really bonded in helping Israel, there are a bunch

45:16

of American Jews that are very woke that are anti Israel.

45:21

We did a show about a workshop before the past

45:23

over holiday with parents who love Israel had to go

45:26

to a workshop how to deal with kids who come back from college hating Israel. How do you spend the

45:30

pastover state it together? You have this wokeness you have

45:33

groups that don't know much about Israel that are demonstrating

45:37

against Israel too. I don't know how we reached out

45:41

to them, but these are people of our family that are so misguided, have such a war perception of Israel

45:47

that and this is true of the non religious world.

45:51

The religion. I think it's so important. I think in

45:54

Israel you see probably more religion, more belief in God

45:57

after October seventh than beforehand. People have been turning. In

46:00

the United States, we have these walk kids. I don't

46:02

know how we deal with them, but how do we get them back?

46:04

You know, it's something that we don't have it here

46:08

because whoever lives here or you know what, I'll tell

46:12

you what, whoever is visited here in Israel and felt

46:17

what's happening here and the energy I'm talking before seventh

46:21

of October, they realize how fragile Israel is and how

46:27

you need to keep it. I'm a writer, so I'm

46:30

using images. I think what happened is that for us,

46:35

for you? For me? We think when we think of

46:38

Israel usually we think of stories in our life. We

46:42

think of stories, and when we look at Israel, we

46:45

think the David and Goliath story. We think we see

46:49

Israel as David, the small, the smart, and I think

46:57

a lot of people in the world are mistaken and

47:01

thinking that we are Goliath, that we are the bed

47:05

and the big and and we need to tell the

47:09

story differently, and people need to understand that the state.

47:14

Of Israel is David is There are the good ones,

47:18

that are the small ones.

47:19

They are the ones that are that we need to

47:22

watch out for to keep them so.

47:26

So I think they are we are losing in the media. Yeah, well, the.

47:31

Media has been very biased and the college campuses are woke.

47:34

I spoke. I don't know if you're aware, but a lot of Evangelical Christians were supportive of Israel. Their children

47:40

are pro Palestinian. And I guess one of the pastors,

47:43

why are so many young Evangelical Christians not supportive of

47:47

Israel pro Palestinian? You know what he told me, Because

47:50

they go to these colleges where they get indoctrinated with

47:53

this anti Israel hatred. This is what the pastor told me.

47:56

Just like Jews have been effected, Evangelical Christians being affected

48:00

by it too. It's unfortunate and we have to do

48:02

something about these colleges, and we have to also make

48:06

sure that every kid has a better Jewish education. I'm

48:08

a big proponent of Jewish education. They are in Israel.

48:12

You live in the country, you absorb, you know when

48:14

the holidays are. But you ask how many people know

48:18

where some of the Jewish holidays are? Like sueh, they

48:21

will tell you what is it? So it's a problem

48:23

we have in America today and the Western world.

48:26

I'm thinking, I don't know if I'm thinking about birthright.

48:31

This amazing program, amazing program.

48:34

Program I know Michael Steinhart and like really it's it's

48:38

it's an amazing program. And I think that's maybe the solution.

48:44

Send your kids for a week in Israel to know

48:48

that they will go back to the colleges and they

48:51

will speak for Israel.

48:52

And they're doing that. Friend Angelical Christians to a birthright

48:55

for evangelical Christians. That also helpful.

48:57

Yeah, that's a good idea.

48:59

I think they started already. I'm F'm not mistaken. I

49:01

have to check into that, but but we need more

49:05

and more of that, more association with more Jewish education.

49:09

I want to thank you for joining me. What's your next book going to be about?

49:13

Wow? Now we're doing a TV series from that. So

49:17

so I'm studying a new profession. After being a photographer writer,

49:22

now I'm a screen writer and I'm trying to figure

49:26

it out.

49:26

I hope it will be soon.

49:28

An actress too.

49:29

I'll tell you what, No, I can't write while there's

49:34

a war here, like you can't. I'm outside. I'm most

49:39

of my time. I'm on the street demonstrating for bringing

49:43

back the hostages. So that's that's where my heart is.

49:47

That's what I do now. I can't write about anything

49:51

besides the situation and the hostages.

49:55

So if your husband will be Prime Minister today, will

49:57

he be bringing making a deal to bring back the hospital. Yeah.

50:01

Leah Lepede the novelist, the author. She've written children's books

50:06

and cookbooks, but she's now a novelist. Her latest book

50:09

is translated in English, is called On her Own. It's

50:12

published by Harper Villa, which is the vision of Harper

50:15

and Roth. Thank you for joining us.

50:17

Thank you so much for hosting man. Thank you for

50:19

all your support.

50:22

No, thank you for what you're doing. I know it's not easy being in Israel, living with it. It's just

50:28

and there will be God willing a better day. It's

50:30

around the corner, but they can't come fast enough.

50:33

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