Anya and Nadia have helped lead our retreats in Montana for the past few years. In this conversation, we talk about the different kinds of movement they’ve studied and teach and how — along with Cameron and Melayne — we try to create a place and time where people can get very real with themselves and each other.

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Intro music “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range. “The Fade Out Line,” by Phoebe Killdeer and The Short Straws. Outro: “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

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