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Here are our top technology stories of

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All right Story . Number one Amazon

3:05

and Meta are both donating $1

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million to Donald Trump's inauguration

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fund .

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Let's go to Crenn , westland for more on this story . Amazon and Meta , seeking

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to get in Donald Trump's good graces , are each giving $1

3:20

million to the president-elect's inauguration

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fund . Trump has previously

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lashed out at both Meta and Amazon

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, among other big tech companies , and

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the donations by the two massive internet corporations

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are seen as efforts to curry favor with

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the incoming administration . Amazon

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, in addition to the $1 million cash

3:39

donation to the fund , will live stream

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Trump's inauguration on Prime Video

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, which represents an in-kind donation

3:46

valued at one million dollars . Now

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, meta's ceo , mark zuckerberg , personally

3:50

directed his company to make the one million

3:52

dollar donation to the trump inaugural fund

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back to you guys in the studio

3:57

all right

3:59

.

3:59

So let's talk about this . This is very interesting , right

4:01

? So so donald trump , his first

4:03

campaign , uh , that he had . He is

4:06

pretty anti-meta and pretty anti-amazon

4:09

, right ? He's anti-everybody , so

4:11

he is . So now , all of a sudden

4:13

, out of the blue bezos

4:15

who owns the washington post , two weeks before

4:18

the election , ordered the paper not

4:20

to endorse a presidential candidate , arguing

4:22

that the practice creates a perception of bias

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, which I guess that's a good thing to do

4:26

. You don't want to have a newspaper saying it's not

4:29

a perception , okay . And

4:31

then Trump seems to have a

4:33

lot of energy about reducing regulations

4:35

and Bezos now has come on the record

4:37

and said if I can help him do

4:39

that , I'm going to help him .

4:42

On top of that .

4:44

November 27 , zuckerberg , who

4:46

hates Trump he has just bashed

4:48

him decided to travel to Trump's Mar-a-Lago

4:51

estate in Florida to dine with the president-elect

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Met . A spokesperson said in a statement

4:56

. It's an important time for the future of American

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innovation . Mark

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said that he was grateful for the invitation to join

5:03

President Trump for dinner and the opportunity to meet

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with members of his team about the incoming

5:07

administration . All right , so

5:09

what the heck is going on

5:12

here ?

5:13

So I don't know , I don't . I

5:15

don't think this is a what the heck is going on

5:17

here . I think this is a

5:19

. We better get our butts in gear . We're going to get

5:22

cremated . Is that what it is ? Because Twitter or X or whatever , or Meta Space or Facebook ? We better

5:24

get our butts in gear or we're going to get cremated .

5:25

Is that what it is On Twitter , or X or whatever , or

5:27

Metaspace or Facebook ? True .

5:29

Social or whatever .

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So I just find it funny because these are

5:32

like two of the biggest , I

5:35

would say enemies . Whoa

5:37

, whoa , whoa . A

5:40

bunch of the yeah , there's a

5:42

whole bunch of people that

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are all of a sudden deciding

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that they want to pony up

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and be a part . So it's very interesting because we have

5:50

another story that we're going to be talking about

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regarding another social media company

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that's in trouble , and that

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media company that's in trouble I'm

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going to kind of spoil our story . Upcoming

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here , of course , is TikTok . To

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kind of spoil our story . Upcoming here , of course , is tiktok , and trump came on out just

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a couple years ago saying that he loves having tiktok be a competitor

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to meta and all uh the other forces that are out there . So this

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is just kind of a who's who

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playground of tech companies

6:16

that shouldn't be getting political . This should be staying

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exactly , just providing a social

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media aspect , now deciding

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that they're going to want to get into this uh uh

6:25

administration and work with them

6:28

, or not work with them , I don't know . This

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is the Elon Musk effect that , since he's

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been having conversations with them , that they

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all want to join to the table too . Is that

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what you think ?

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I'm sure there is a competitive piece of that

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, because Elon has become this weird

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connected piece to the Trump

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campaign .

6:46

Yeah .

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And I'm sure the other two are just slobbering

6:49

over themselves going , oh crap , we need to

6:52

. We need to step up our games

6:54

because Elon's got to jump on us .

6:56

OK , that's exactly what I think too , so it's a real

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false . It's that false sense

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of hey , let's be buddies , right , all right , well

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, story number two . I got lots of questions on this . This is , uh , this is I can't

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I don't know , amazing but not really , I guess

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, amazing okay .

7:10

Well , I don't know why , but uh , we

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know that amazon you can get pretty much

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anything on amazon . We can get books

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and clothes and toys and groceries

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and you can get , uh , prescription

7:22

drugs . Now you can get automobiles

7:25

what ?

7:27

Tell me more what's going on here .

7:28

Starting today , for the first time , you can buy a car

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on Amazon . The catch is that same-day

7:33

delivery is not guaranteed .

7:37

So , even if I don't put it in my prime , it's not a two-hour

7:39

delivery or a four-hour delivery .

7:41

Who knows the e-commerce giant's first foray

7:43

in the car shopping is called amazon auto

7:45

companies , partnering

7:47

with hyundai dealers in 48

7:49

cities in the us to list vehicles on

7:51

the site . Customers can browse

7:54

, order , find financing

7:56

and arrange delivery , all within the familiar

7:59

confines of amazon's online

8:01

ecosystem . Of course

8:03

, if you're looking for anything other than a hyundai

8:05

, you're out of luck for now , because

8:08

that's the only cars available okay , well

8:10

, so do you think that's going to be the only car available ? probably

8:12

not , right well , I'm

8:15

sure this is just a test to see if it's going

8:17

to work out , and if it does , you'll see

8:20

all kinds of different things appearing

8:22

on there . All right , the amazon auto

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uh hyundai

8:27

has become the exclusive launch partner and

8:31

you know they're they're looking , they're

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looking to uh expand that

8:35

if it works out okay . And

8:38

of course you know the effort is trying

8:40

to bring the simplicity and ease of

8:43

customers expecting amazon

8:46

to get them the things

8:48

they want to get . So do you think that would be easier

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?

8:51

buying a car on amazon than it would be going to a

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dealership . Well , because

8:55

there's already online companies .

8:56

Yeah , that's right yeah , obviously

8:59

, amazon is taking cues from places

9:01

like carvana and Carscom and

9:03

they're saying , okay , we can

9:05

totally do this , so let's

9:07

see what it does . Amazon

9:10

first announced its plan to get into the car-buying

9:12

business last year . Previously

9:16

, customers could browse car showrooms and

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compare prices on Amazon , but not actually

9:20

buy a car . With this

9:22

partnership with Hyundai , amazon has finally added

9:25

a key piece of the puzzle Trade-ins

9:27

will also be accepted through Amazon's new car

9:30

vertical . Customers will have to

9:32

answer a series of questions about the conditions

9:34

of the vehicle , after which the request

9:36

will be processed by an independent valuation

9:39

service to determine

9:41

the value of the trade-in which

9:44

is a car salesman .

9:45

Okay , is that a nicer new way

9:47

of saying it ?

9:48

That's what a car salesman does . Okay . Amazon's

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deal with Hyundai neatly sidesteps

9:54

this issue by ensuring that dealers

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remain a crucial part of the process . Most

9:59

dealers allow customers to browse and buy

10:01

a car through their own websites , but having Amazon

10:03

as an additional platform with millions of daily

10:05

customers sure to help

10:07

make the process even easier All

10:11

right ?

10:11

so in our pre-show meeting here , odie

10:15

had a question here , right ? So you're

10:17

going to ask the question . You got to ask that question

10:19

because that was hilarious . What are you going ?

10:20

to . I mean with this in mind if you don't like it

10:22

, does that mean you get to return it to

10:25

a Whole Foods or a Kohl's ?

10:26

Yeah , where would ?

10:28

you go and return this car .

10:30

Just think about it .

10:32

That's a good question . I don't know

10:34

.

10:34

For 30 days .

10:36

I think if you want to give it back , you

10:38

can just show up to a Whole Foods . Just

10:41

drop it off and throw the keys in .

10:43

Scan the QR code .

10:45

Sorry , we don't want this anymore . Do

10:47

you get a 30 day return on that sale ? What's

10:51

that ? I don't

10:53

even know how that would work , because Amazon's

10:56

return policy is

10:58

like super simple , but until you try

11:01

it .

11:02

Yeah , that is true .

11:03

And then it's like , it's like some

11:05

ask another question . You're

11:07

in you're in some sort of swamp of

11:09

of oblivion

11:11

you can't get out of yep yep , but

11:13

also .

11:14

Does that mean I basically get to you know

11:16

? Try a car for 30 days try a car for 30

11:18

days and be like yeah , you know , run it up on miles , so what ? If you like the car for a

11:20

bit and then all of a sudden you start having problems do you turn it back in on , on , on the ?

11:22

So what if you like the car for a bit and then all of a

11:24

sudden you start having problems ? Do you turn it back in on

11:26

the date , or do you do what people

11:28

do and then you order the same exact car

11:30

four months later and then you just return the

11:32

car at the other ?

11:34

time . What's stopping people from doing that

11:36

? I don't know .

11:37

They'll probably be like nope sorry .

11:40

Do you get salespeople to come on out to you ? Because

11:45

? Do you get salespeople to come on out to you ? Because I kind of like going when I buy my vehicle that sleazy Well .

11:46

I shouldn't say sleazy , no , they're sleazy that nice

11:48

, they're sleazy , okay , sleazy , yeah , okay .

11:51

The sales guy that I'm trying to buy this one vehicle

11:53

and then all of a sudden he just wants me to buy this other

11:55

vehicle down the lot , right ? He's like , oh no , you , no

11:57

, I don't need a Jeep , I want to

12:00

be in this .

12:01

That's because there's a bigger profit margin

12:04

on the car you want to buy . Is that what it is ? Yep

12:06

, exactly what it is . Okay , that's

12:08

exactly what it is , all right . Well

12:10

, you know what the first rule of car sales is ? What ? The

12:12

customer doesn't know what they want until you tell

12:14

them . Is that really that's right ?

12:26

Okay , all right , we'll go on to story number three . Lenovo might soon announce a steam os handheld

12:28

valve , revealed earlier this year that it will support the rog

12:30

ally handheld with its steam deck

12:32

operating system , and now it looks like lenovo

12:35

. You know lenovo , lenovo you know

12:37

that's the big computer company

12:39

will soon have its own steam os

12:41

handheld too . Pc makers

12:43

like Lenovo , asus , msi

12:45

have opted into a Windows-based handheld

12:48

so far , but as consumer patience

12:50

with Windows on tiny screens wears thin

12:52

and Microsoft progress on improving

12:54

the experience is slow , it seems that OEMs

12:56

are looking for a better alternative . Lenovo's

12:59

potential entry into the SteamOS handheld

13:01

comes just days after Valve quietly

13:03

updated a document with new branding guidelines

13:05

that include powered by SteamOS handheld comes just days after Valve quietly updated a document with new branding guidelines that include powered by

13:07

SteamOS hardware . This suggests

13:09

a sign that yet the Valve is working with more

13:12

third-party manufacturers beyond Asus

13:14

to certify devices for SteamOS . Valve

13:17

has been here before , though , as

13:20

CES 2013 had tried to tempt

13:22

PC manufacturers to sign into its Steam

13:24

Machine initiative , but didn't get far enough . The

13:27

reason to believe that this time things will be different

13:29

is thanks to Proton . The Steam Deck uses

13:31

Proton software

13:33

capability layers that have already been

13:35

proven with many Windows games . Now

13:37

I have a Steam Deck myself . You have a Steam

13:39

Deck , I have the Steam Deck , steam Deck , so I have

13:41

the Valve-issued Steam Deck . Ces

13:45

2025 is just weeks away . I

13:47

will make a prediction right now which isn't really a prediction

13:50

, because I have some insider news on this that

13:52

there is going to be more SteamOS-powered

13:54

hardware that will be announced

13:56

at CES 2025

13:58

. And I believe Lenovo because

14:01

their marketing team didn't do a very good job and

14:03

all their stuff was shipped to ces

14:06

ahead of time and somebody opened a big box

14:08

it's going to have one of these devices available

14:10

there also . Now you don't have a steam

14:12

powered hardware device , would

14:15

you buy a lenovo version if it was a little

14:17

bit cheaper ? I like my steam

14:19

deck a lot .

14:19

You know , probably not okay I

14:21

mean I , I have my . Do you

14:23

play all ?

14:24

your Steam stuff on your computer .

14:25

Yeah , okay , how much is a Steam Deck

14:27

?

14:27

So Steam Decks right now in the secondary

14:30

market you can get them all the way down for $249

14:32

. When they come on out normally

14:37

they're about 400 bucks , so it's right at the same price

14:39

as you would get a . Switch or

14:41

a PlayStation Slimline

14:43

device . That's available there , so

14:45

it's still available at the same

14:47

price . I am excited , though I think SteamOS

14:49

powered hardware may be a wave of

14:51

the future . I think these are going to be I think

14:54

they're going to be three or four providers out there , and

14:56

if you can play your Steam games on a nice device , I

14:59

think that really makes Nintendo have

15:01

to step up a bit , because Steam games

15:03

are 99 cents .

15:04

Why Nintendo ? What why Nintendo ? What why

15:07

Nintendo ?

15:08

Well , because Nintendo's the other portable right . Well

15:11

, you've got .

15:12

Also , they've kind of dropped the ball lately .

15:14

Nintendo is Nintendo is so . They're

15:18

just so they can just do what they want . They're

15:20

just in their own space . They can be late

15:23

on something , they cannot release any new product

15:25

and then , when they decide to release some

15:27

new games and new products , they'll sell millions

15:29

of units and make tons of money . It's

15:33

the only company that I've ever seen in the gaming world

15:35

. They're the Apple of gaming . They are .

15:37

Yeah , they are .

15:38

They have the ability to do that , all right . Story

15:40

number four TikTok loses appeal to

15:43

delay ban . The clock is ticking on TikTok's

15:45

attempt to delay an impending

15:48

ban on the United

15:50

States , and its latest bid for more

15:52

time was rejected by an appeals court

15:54

last Friday . Lawyers for the video

15:57

sharing app have requested a temporary pause

15:59

to petition the Supreme Court and incoming

16:02

presidential administration . See

16:04

, I was talking about this , but a three

16:06

judge panel denied this request . The app

16:08

faces a U S ban of parent company . Byte

16:11

dance does not sell it by January

16:13

19th . Also on Friday , lawmakers

16:15

sent letters to Apple and Google executives

16:17

instructing them to prepare to remove tick tock

16:20

from their app stores . So so

16:22

, so , so here's our social media , the

16:24

quandary right . So Trump was like

16:27

I love TikTok because it lets Meta

16:29

have competition . Meta

16:31

, all of a sudden , is jumping on up saying hey

16:33

, we love you , now , new president-elect

16:35

, so we're going to give you this money , we're going

16:37

to give you this money . Other people are doing that too

16:40

. Does that mean all of a sudden , the president

16:42

says well , geez , now I don't like TikTok

16:44

and now I think TikTok's bad and I changed my

16:46

mind because these people are

16:49

giving me stuff . I have said

16:51

passionately that

16:53

I believe TikTok should be able to be used

16:56

, should be able to be competitive

16:58

in the American market , because that keeps the

17:00

American market not having a monopoly

17:02

.

17:03

Despite all the warnings that you get

17:05

from experts .

17:06

Yeah , so we all know Nick Espinosa

17:09

is really anti-TikTok

17:11

, isn't he ? I mean if there's somebody

17:13

anti-anything , it's him . I

17:15

get that there are security risks , but

17:17

man , I just I struggle

17:19

with having just one company or two companies

17:21

in the United States control all that data .

17:23

Well , you know , it would be nice if we could

17:25

just get rid of all of them . Social

17:28

media life would be better

17:30

.

17:30

That's just you know what I I'll

17:32

have to talk . Hopefully I get to my nathan that he's

17:34

gonna be talking about tactical keyboards

17:36

. You remember the old blackberry keyboards ?

17:39

yeah , you bring up blackberries a lot

17:41

. You're kind of stuck on black , I am

17:43

so .

17:44

I've been on a hunt to find a tactical keyboard . You know they were great

17:46

, they were .

17:47

You know , I wish I had a BlackBerry growing

17:49

up .

17:50

You weren't even alive when the BlackBerry

17:52

came out were you , I was my

17:54

dad had one , you

17:57

were like two years old

17:59

, right ?

17:59

No , no , well , that so the tactic . Remember

18:02

the tactical keyboard . I cannot type

18:04

. I misspell so many times

18:06

.

18:06

You misspell regardless .

18:07

Well , no , no , no , no . When I had my Blackberry

18:10

, I was like the killer . You misspell soup . Okay

18:14

, all right . Well , all right , we'll continue on . That

18:16

ends our top technology stories of the week . Moving

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Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm . Our weekly

19:37

show covers the top technology subjects without

19:39

any political agenda . We verify the facts

19:41

and we do it with a sense of humor , in less than 60

19:43

minutes and , of course , a little whiskey on the side . Today

19:45

, regoire , a whiskey connoisseur

19:48

, is away for the holiday , so odio is

19:50

taking his place in the studio . Odio

19:52

, odio , odio

19:55

. What have you chosen for us today ?

19:56

hello , okay . So today we're drinking the

19:59

kurayoshi 12 year old

20:01

pure malt whiskey from

20:03

Matsui's website . The

20:05

name of the newest distillery , the

20:07

Kuriyoshi Distillery

20:10

, is a new wind

20:12

in whiskey . The 12-year-old

20:15

pure malt whiskey has the aroma of nuts

20:17

and almonds , followed by a rich malt

20:19

flavor with hints of vanilla and

20:21

raisins and a faint smoky

20:23

flavor .

20:24

I taste the smoky .

20:27

This vintage has the perfect balance with the sweetness , bitterness and acidity

20:30

. Here are the stats .

20:32

Okay .

20:32

The company is Matsui Shuzo . Distillation

20:35

is Kiriyoshi Distillery in Totori

20:37

, prefecture

20:40

, japan . Classification is Japanese

20:42

whiskey , age 12 years , 43%

20:45

AB and

20:47

86 86 proof okay

20:49

uh , the mash bill is 100 malta

20:52

barley and it goes for 82

20:54

or 115

20:56

in the us okay , all

20:59

right .

21:00

What do you think of this ?

21:00

so far , mike are

21:03

you liking this ? We'll see . I'm

21:05

not sure yet .

21:06

You're not sure yet . No , so this

21:08

was on our Japanese trip . We actually bought

21:10

this whiskey and

21:12

this was behind the counter

21:14

lock security

21:16

item . For this whiskey itself , I

21:18

had to show them passport ID

21:20

, a bunch of stuff . So this is like the new

21:22

high--end whiskey

21:25

. They had a couple of these in japan in japan

21:27

, in japan , and it does have a uh

21:30

, unique , different taste though it

21:32

does I I don't know if I I'm liking

21:34

it or not liking it . We'll see how it , maybe

21:36

if it airs out a little bit , I guess we'll

21:38

see .

21:39

Okay , please remember to like and subscribe

21:41

. In addition , comment and let us know if you have a whiskey

21:43

you would like us to review Drink responsibly

21:46

. Remember heaven can wait .

21:48

That's right , and

21:51

if you have a whiskey you want

21:53

on the show , let us know . We

21:57

have been on for going on five years now , our show and we have not ran out of whiskey , and I keep on looking

21:59

at the whiskey selections that are there , mike and I think we're going to have a gazillion

22:02

more that are available there . Mike and I think

22:04

we're going to have a gazillion more that are available . All right , with our first

22:06

whiskey tasting complete , let's move on to our feature segment

22:08

. Today we're bringing back the funny and informative reading

22:10

of emails that I've received during

22:12

the week . This includes scam , phishing emails and

22:14

all-out mistruths disguised as

22:16

legitimate emails in a segment we

22:18

like to call Letters all

22:30

right you

22:34

know we're going to start with mike , and then we're going

22:36

to go to od and then we'll come back to me and see

22:38

what we got . We got a bunch of different areas

22:40

that we have here . So , uh , mike

22:42

, which one are you going to start out with ? You've got a couple

22:44

of funny ones there .

22:46

I think I'll start out with the NFT one , because

22:48

everybody loves NFTs .

22:50

Oh well , what's going on in the NFT world

22:52

?

22:53

Well , exciting

22:56

news . Okay , according according to this

22:58

email . All right , your nft has

23:00

an offer of 1.3 eth

23:03

. Ethereum okay , ethereum okay

23:05

.

23:07

Uh , well , that's really that's pretty much

23:09

it , that's all that's what it says .

23:11

It says you received an offer of 1.3

23:13

eth for one of your nfts . Check

23:15

out the details on our platform and see if

23:17

you'd like to accept the offer , and then

23:20

it has a tab to connect

23:22

your wallet all right .

23:23

So so one ethereum right now

23:26

is transferring for three thousand eight hundred

23:28

and fifty seven dollars .

23:29

So we have one point , so one point three . So

23:31

you got like almost five , three thousand to

23:34

five thousand dollars , right ?

23:35

okay , they're gonna offer for our nft

23:37

. Now that that's a great offer . That must must have been an

23:39

NFT that you drew on the air . I'm

23:41

sure it was , because that's the NFT that

23:43

we posted on our OpenSea

23:46

that you can buy a TechTime Radio NFT for

23:48

All right , so that sounds like

23:50

a great deal . I would be excited to open that

23:52

up and share that with you

23:55

, and then we can have a great Christmas

23:57

.

23:57

Uh-huh , you know where this is

23:59

from .

23:59

What's the email from ? It's got to be from a reputable

24:02

email .

24:02

Sure If

24:07

it's no-reply-touristapp at sendtouristapp . On

24:09

behalf of Magic Eden , quote

24:13

no reply at touristapp

24:15

.

24:15

Touristapp . Okay , so touristapp

24:17

. So they must know a lot about NFfts

24:20

, right ?

24:21

well , I don't know I don't follow

24:23

this okay well , I've never heard of touristapp

24:26

, isn't it ?

24:26

it's a hustle . It's a hustle , so there's a link

24:28

on there . What happens when you click on the link I got

24:30

? I got the page behind there . Do you have the page behind there

24:32

to show what happens ?

24:34

all right . So then you go to a sub page . So you

24:36

you had to . Did you have to connect

24:38

your wallet , or did you just have to punch that

24:40

button ? So I hit the button and then it goes to

24:42

this new screen Okay . So it says someone

24:44

has made an offer on one of your listings . Ensure

24:47

you're connected to view the details . It

24:50

has connect wallet again , okay

24:52

, and then it has six

24:56

NFTs

24:58

.

24:59

That are listed down there that are listed . Okay

25:01

, so I think that's supposed to be that , like those were

25:03

the latest sales that they that they had

25:05

available . So I click on again

25:07

so this , so it sends you one link to this link

25:10

and then there's another connect your wallet . So

25:12

then the connect your wallet . You click on that link

25:14

and then all of a sudden guess what pops up we're

25:17

having problems with our

25:19

wallet connection at this time . Please

25:22

stay on the line , because we'll have somebody come on in to

25:24

chat with you . And they put you into a chat window , right

25:27

. So all of a sudden , I had Tony

25:29

decided to come on T-O-N-I

25:32

so I get a unique way to spell

25:34

Tony , I guess . So Tony decided to come online

25:36

and was able to help me . I said , well

25:38

, I was not able to get

25:41

the wallet to connect . He said , well , that's all right , you know

25:43

what , let me help you and I

25:45

can do it manually . What do you have

25:47

your wallet at currently ? I said , well

25:49

, I have my wallet currently on

25:52

cryptocom , so that's where I have it or Coinbase

25:54

. And he's like , well , you know

25:56

what ? How about you let me screen share

25:58

so I can come on in and I can help you connect

26:00

so that you can get paid immediately with

26:03

Coinbase . Yeah , that sounds like a good idea

26:05

, so then he sent me a link .

26:07

That sounds like the beekeeper .

26:08

Yeah , exactly , the beekeeper is a great movie to watch . So

26:10

all of a sudden he sends me this link to

26:12

connect and I said well , I

26:14

don't know how to connect a PC .

26:17

I got this . Did you start doing the old

26:19

guy ?

26:19

thing yeah , I don't know how to do this , I don't know how to do

26:21

this , and then I still don't get it . So

26:23

then , about 15 minutes into that , the individual

26:26

swears at me that must be the way that they just

26:28

love to end their conversation Swears at me

26:30

, then disconnects and was not able to help

26:32

me ?

26:33

No , they're absolutely . You

26:35

know , you're frustrating them and they don't

26:37

have any time to .

26:39

They're trying to scam me . They're trying to scam

26:41

me and they don't have the time to scam

26:43

me out of my money , so I've inconvenienced

26:46

them .

26:47

Yeah , that's exactly right . That's

26:49

what we used to do to telemarketers . We'd

26:52

keep a telemarketer on the phone

26:54

until they got ticked off and swear at

26:56

us and hang up . So what do we learn ?

26:58

from this . We

27:00

shouldn't click on the links . And if somebody's gonna ask us for

27:02

support and we do not know who they are , do

27:04

not give them access to your computer . They can tell

27:06

you they're from microsoft , they're from anywhere to help

27:09

you . Do not give access

27:11

, because there are tools out there or you can

27:13

give access to , and then they can just take over your whole

27:15

machine .

27:15

That's right , or yeah , you can

27:17

do all that , yeah , and get

27:20

all your money stolen , okay well , that's

27:22

how about that ? Okay , so we let's

27:24

, let's , let's talk about the positives here

27:26

, if you want to you know if you want to , if you

27:28

want to get , if you want to really want to get into this

27:30

stuff you know , just say yes

27:32

to everybody . There's a movie like okay

27:35

, just say yes , just say yes . Yeah , I

27:38

kind of like this new assistant for the rest

27:40

of the day .

27:40

It's gonna be about positive .

27:41

We're just gonna sure we're not gonna talk about any negative

27:44

positive yeah , just say yes to the guy

27:46

and give them remote control of your , because

27:48

you know you're gonna click on the links

27:50

anyway , okay all

27:53

right , let's move on click on the

27:55

links .

27:55

All right , odia , you're up next . She

27:59

was too busy laughing .

28:00

She was laughing .

28:02

Okay , you've got an email from Nail

28:05

Okay . Inforoho

28:07

at vnzzfind

28:10

mess nme

28:12

.

28:13

Oh , it sounds very legit .

28:15

On behalf of Provide Insurance

28:17

Quick Auto Inns . Okay , all

28:19

right .

28:20

Oh , so this is going to Do .

28:21

you know what ?

28:21

I bet you this is exciting because they're probably going to try to

28:23

help . This is going to save me so much money . Oh , they're going to save me . Oh , tell

28:26

me more .

28:26

Save up to $610 a year

28:28

oh .

28:28

Check your availability in the subject line

28:30

.

28:31

Okay , Auto coverage may be cheaper

28:33

rate , you know , and

28:35

it has a little button

28:37

with your zip code . Finding

28:40

the right auto insurance used to be a hassle

28:42

, but with Provide Insurance it's never

28:44

been easier . In just a few minutes we could help

28:46

contact you with top-rated couriers . Let

28:49

us find the perfect policy for you with

28:51

confidence , so you're fully protected without breaking

28:53

the bank .

28:54

Okay , so they have these links that

28:56

I can type in my zip code , right ?

28:58

Yeah , there's a zip code

29:01

link , and then there's a big start here button

29:03

.

29:04

So guess what happens when you click on the start here .

29:07

It takes you to a random site .

29:08

So it takes you to a page and it wants to know all about my existing insurance

29:10

because it wants to save me money

29:12

.

29:13

Right $620 a year .

29:14

Yeah , so the question error first off

29:16

was way too

29:18

complicated , because they want to know what my

29:20

information is of , what I'm paying , who

29:22

I have my policy

29:24

number , why I want to

29:27

know my checking account . Oh wow

29:29

, so it is literally about

29:31

60 questions

29:33

and answers that I need to fill out and it's interesting

29:36

.

29:36

That's not quick and easy .

29:37

That's not quick and easy .

29:38

That's the first line .

29:39

And this company must be saving money

29:41

because I went to a google forms to fill this

29:43

all out . So when you , when you

29:46

, go to a free google's form

29:48

, and it's got their logo there , though , so I was like , well

29:50

, that must be legit google form though

29:52

. So it's a google form that they were collecting

29:54

all this information for , so I

29:56

started filling it out with a bunch of

29:59

stuff that was incorrect , and I always put like fake

30:01

social security numbers . So poor

30:03

people they are probably . It's probably a real social

30:05

security number of somebody that I use , but

30:07

that's okay . So I put it out there and

30:09

then I clicked send and then

30:11

they said that they would contact me back immediately

30:13

, and so I did get a phone call . So

30:16

I'm like a chat message . So

30:18

I do put my real phone number in there

30:20

. This is his old Blackberry , not

30:23

my old Blackberry , it's actually my iPhone . So

30:25

I put it in there . And then I got a call . It

30:27

was kind of difficult to hear the individual . He had a

30:29

very heavy accent , sounded

30:33

like he was in a call center and he did not have the

30:35

same company name for the insurance . But at

30:37

least he knew that he was trying to sell me insurance

30:39

, that he could help me out . And so

30:41

I said thank you so much . How are

30:43

you doing ? And then he said well , I'm

30:45

looking through this application I don't have . So he

30:47

clearly got the actual application

30:49

. They submitted it on Google forms . He knew a bunch of the

30:51

information and he said well , sir , I can't

30:54

help you . I've never heard of the

30:56

name of the insurance company . And

31:02

so I did vernon fonk as my the one that I do , and he had never heard of that . I said well

31:04

, don't you know ? You honk when you drive by vernon fonk ? And the guy is

31:06

like what the heck are you talking about ? So we

31:08

talked for about 10 to 15 minutes . I

31:11

was a lot more

31:13

engaged .

31:14

Did he not successfully save you 612

31:17

?

31:17

but he knew he did not swear at me when he left . He just said

31:19

sorry , sir , we probably can't save you any612? . No , but he did not swear at me when he left . He just said sorry , sir , we probably can't save you any

31:21

money and continued on

31:23

.

31:23

Is it possible that this was a legit

31:25

sales ?

31:27

thing I doubt it . You know what it could have been

31:29

, what

31:31

?

31:31

kind of company is inforojo

31:34

at vnzzfind

31:36

at mess ?

31:38

I don't think it is . I don't think it is . I don't think it was

31:40

.

31:41

I don't know , I don't think it was .

31:43

And again , you should not be filling out a Google form

31:45

if you're trying to get your insurance changed .

31:47

Exactly .

31:47

So that should be the first note If you're going to a free form

31:50

that's available for everybody without any

31:52

real information . It's not based

31:54

on the web page itself . It actually took you to

31:56

the Google Form webpage .

31:58

They just had better trained scammers . On the other

32:00

end , they were more polite . I think they were more polite

32:02

scammers . They were more polite .

32:03

Alright , okay , I'm going to do mine . And how

32:05

many minutes do we have left ? Do we have about a couple

32:07

more minutes ? Okay , here we go . So I got this

32:09

thing that says this is from Kara

32:12

at Data Axel . But

32:14

all of a sudden Data Axel is nowhere

32:16

in here . It's at insights of

32:18

blah blah , blah , blah blah , at a

32:20

bunch of numbers , something , something , somethingnetcom

32:23

. So they they were

32:25

kind of confused on their deal . They have like anet

32:28

and then acom . So I guess it's both

32:30

that you can send it to . That just means that they

32:32

actually signed up fornetcom

32:34

. All right , it says unwrap your gifts to start 2025

32:37

on a high note . I

32:40

have a look at this a holiday season . I can open for a story , I can open

32:42

for the perfect recipe , I

32:44

can open for 2025

32:46

success and I can open for a movie

32:49

mashup . Now there's

32:52

social media icons on here . None of these social media

32:54

icons work . So if you go to a page and they're sending

32:56

you something in email and none of the social

32:58

media , maybe one of those could be incorrect and they'd

33:00

have an update and I can get that sometimes

33:02

. But none of those open up anything on the social

33:04

media , probably for a sign . Their contact

33:06

information page does not exist

33:08

. Everything is black . There's no , no information

33:10

down there . Probably not a good sign either

33:12

. But you know what I decided

33:15

? What the heck ? These are four holiday

33:17

gifts for me . I cannot miss out on these gifts

33:19

.

33:19

Did you open a ?

33:20

story . I did . I opened a . Well , I did not

33:22

do the story because I didn't want the story , but I opened

33:24

for the perfect recipe , all

33:26

right , and I opened for the 2025

33:29

success . Now there went to two different

33:31

URLs . The 2025

33:34

success went to an astrology page

33:37

that told me my astrology information . Well

33:39

, that sounds about right . So that was pretty good , and

33:42

I was very excited that when I opened the perfect

33:44

recipe , it took me to recipecom . So

33:48

what they do have , though , on this email

33:50

, is they have a tracking device that knows that

33:52

, when I click on it , that I opened

33:54

the email . So what this is doing is , even

33:57

though these links were not

33:59

really nefarious they weren't asking for any information

34:01

what they do know is that I clicked on

34:03

this email because it sends back a token

34:06

saying that I clicked on it at what time it was

34:08

, knowing that they can then continue to sell

34:10

my information at that email

34:13

account because I'm actively using

34:16

that email .

34:17

So what is a scam then ? It's

34:19

just an active email scam .

34:20

Yep , it's just a campaign to see active email

34:22

. Links of opening a story and a perfect

34:25

recipe were just links to existing items that

34:27

were out there , so not a whole lot

34:29

on the deal , other than Nathan's

34:31

a live person . We're going to keep on sending them

34:33

spam so that we can do this segment , all right you

34:35

got one more right here .

34:36

Little do they know ?

34:37

That's right , you

34:40

All right . You got one more right here .

34:42

Little do they know ? That's right . You have one more here , mike . I think you

34:44

and Odie both have one last one . Okay , this is from healthcaregov

34:46

notices marketplace at healthcaregov

34:48

.

34:48

Okay it looks really legitimate and

34:52

the email looks legitimate .

34:53

Tomorrow is the last day to find

34:56

coverage starting January 1st . Urgent

34:58

deadline tomorrow .

35:00

Okay , so what date is it on

35:02

the tomorrow ? So what's the date that I received

35:05

?

35:05

that email . You received

35:07

it on the 14th of December

35:09

.

35:09

Okay , so a little bit again .

35:16

Well , this kind of makes sense when you're thinking about like what do they call

35:18

those . Open enrollment , open enrollment

35:21

months yeah . So this kind

35:23

of jives with that it plays into it pretty

35:25

good , doesn't it it does . Tomorrow is the last

35:27

day to enroll in coverage beginning January

35:30

1st . Find out if you qualify for savings

35:32

and pick the plan that works best for you at healthcaregov

35:35

. Remember to enroll by

35:37

tomorrow for coverage starting on January

35:40

1st . It does

35:42

have on the back . It looks like

35:44

this message is paid for the US Department

35:46

of Health and Human Services . Okay

35:48

.

35:48

Blurb Looks really good , doesn't ?

35:50

it Looks pretty good what

35:52

happened when you .

35:53

I know you had to click on that , so I clicked on the link itself

35:56

, it did not go to the right page . Which

35:58

page ?

35:58

did it go to , so I clicked on the link itself .

35:59

It did not go to the right page so

36:01

it went to a page that wanted to download a PDF

36:04

for me to fill out . The PDF was

36:06

not a valid Adobe PDF

36:08

. This

36:12

is part of , I think , still the Adobe hack that happened that we talked about quite a bit ago , that

36:15

Adobe and both DocuSign

36:17

were kind of compromised and so

36:19

this link actually goes to a hijacked site

36:21

. Downloading a PDF file looks

36:23

legit , was sent , probably from

36:25

the template of the healthcare , maybe

36:28

even from the system itself . But anytime

36:30

you get something and you click on it and it wants

36:32

you to download an attachment immediately

36:34

, you should always pause and stop . That

36:36

is not the recommended way to move

36:38

forward with anything . So please be

36:41

really careful . If there's any time

36:43

you open a web page and it wants you

36:45

to download something , you should be able to open and go

36:47

through web pages without downloading , without

36:49

clicking on something . Unless you know what it is needed

36:52

for , do not click on it itself

36:54

.

36:55

All right , od you got the last one . I

36:59

do have the last one . The last one is from Rogers

37:01

at the go massive .

37:03

Okay .

37:04

Hi Nathan , I'm an Amazon and Walmart

37:06

expert was a proven track record . If

37:08

you're available for a quick zoom call and

37:11

then they give you the calendar

37:13

thingy , I'd love to demonstrate

37:16

my expertise . I'm confident You'll

37:18

be impressed .

37:19

Best regards .

37:20

Roger .

37:20

Okay , so he's an Amazon and Walmart

37:23

expert . Is it Walmart , both , yeah

37:25

?

37:26

So what is he doing ? Is he an

37:29

expert of Walmart ? He wants

37:31

to show you , his awesomeness .

37:32

Yeah , he's an expert of both .

37:34

So what is he going to do for me ?

37:36

He's going to show you how much of an expert

37:39

he is Over Zoom , over Zoom . He's going

37:41

to show me how to go to Walmart and buy stuff .

37:43

Or over zoom over , zoom .

37:43

He's going to show me how to go to walmart and buy stuff , or I'm sure , I'm sure that's

37:46

uh walmartcom .

37:47

He's like that's so

37:49

passe , going to a store

37:51

so I don't quite understand the value

37:54

, so that my problem reminds me of those people

37:56

that are convinced to go buy the gift cards , you

37:58

know oh , they go in and they get

38:00

the calls and they go into the store

38:02

and they say I need to buy three hundred dollars of

38:05

google gift cards .

38:07

I kept I kept somebody for three

38:09

hours trying to get me . I wanted to give them

38:11

a ten thousand dollar gift card and they wouldn't

38:13

accept that . They wouldn't accept that all

38:15

right so did you uh schedule

38:18

a zoom call with roger ?

38:19

I did not , you should have that would

38:21

have been the best thing ever . I just don't know what

38:23

he would be an expert of . He's an expert at Walmart .

38:25

He's an expert at .

38:26

Amazon or Amazon .

38:27

And .

38:27

Walmart . My wife is an expert at Amazon

38:30

and Walmart .

38:30

If you want someone to show you how to

38:33

use those two things , she can sell and buy and

38:35

do everything . Is it like okay , nathan

38:37

, here's what you click . Go

38:39

through the door , don't

38:42

even look at the greeter , if they have one

38:44

, because they'll say something to you and then you'll

38:46

have to say hi back , so you just keep

38:48

just walk past them , all right , okay

38:50

.

38:50

Well , that ends our later segment . All

38:53

right , after the break , we have this week in technology

38:55

, but now we have mike's mesmerizing moment

38:57

. Welcome to mike's mesmerizing

39:01

moment . What does Mike

39:03

have to say today ? All

39:06

right , mike , here's your mesmerizing moment . You worked

39:08

at a car dealership a long time ago in

39:10

your life .

39:11

I did .

39:11

Yes , is having Amazon coming

39:14

in as a third party good

39:16

for the consumer purchasing of a

39:18

car ? Give me your salesman

39:21

information back end on on this so

39:25

I'll just give you a story

39:27

.

39:27

Okay , all right . So when I was , when I was

39:29

doing car

39:31

sales , yeah , I had to . I had to get a job

39:33

really fast , so I became a car salesman , uh

39:36

, which was I don't recommend .

39:37

It's a bad idea it's a bad idea , it was a horrible

39:39

, horrible job but you know what I learned ?

39:41

a lot , though I learned a lot okay , okay

39:44

.

39:44

So , uh , back when I was doing

39:46

this , they had tried to sell cars

39:48

online and customers just

39:50

weren't buying them online . Okay

39:52

, that makes sense and so there was

39:54

this , there was this whole bad

39:56

marriage thing between dealerships

39:58

and customers . All right , uh

40:01

, but then they started this uh carvana

40:03

thing and some of these , these companies

40:05

, suddenly became pretty profitable

40:07

, pretty profitable , and people like it right ? I

40:09

mean , if I can order a car and you drop it right off you

40:12

know if amazon is grabbing

40:14

onto this now I

40:16

can't say whether or not it's going to be best

40:18

for customers , but uh

40:21

, it's obvious that the

40:23

online market has taken

40:25

root for this thing and

40:27

people are sick and tired of dealing with dealership

40:29

madness . Because it it's madness

40:31

, is it ? It's a yeah , it's a whole big psych

40:34

game going to a dealership

40:36

and talking to a salesperson

40:38

, because all they're doing is employing all these

40:40

little tricks , all these psych tricks , to get

40:42

you to do something you think

40:45

you want to do .

40:47

So if I can buy it on the ease of just having to

40:49

go into Amazon and looking for a color and

40:51

a model and information , does that then

40:53

become a better alternative than

40:56

going to a dealership ?

40:56

I'm sure it's a quicker alternative . I

40:58

don't know if it's a better alternative , because

41:01

then you have to deal with the fact that , hey

41:03

, this is not the car I ordered

41:05

, or hey , this doesn't

41:07

even start .

41:09

Not to mention Carvana , had a lot of issues

41:11

where they dropped the car and damaged the car

41:13

on drop off .

41:15

Yeah they did and

41:20

they had both of the places that have done

41:22

that .

41:22

They were just running around and just like , well

41:26

, no , just because when you transport , right , if you're transporting on a flatbread

41:28

and all of a sudden you're going across the highway and you're going across freeways

41:30

, and so it's rock , sting it and do this type of

41:32

stuff . They don't transport it the same way as the

41:34

the dealerships get them from

41:37

the actual factory people

41:39

.

41:39

So yeah , yeah , I'm

41:41

sure . I'm sure that this is just amazon

41:43

just putting their toe in the water . And they're doing

41:45

it . You know , they've got , they've got hyundai

41:48

on board to say , okay , yeah , we can test this

41:50

out , but I don't know , does it

41:52

so ? You know , traditionally

41:54

a car loses over half of its value

41:56

once you drive it off the property . Yeah

41:58

, uh , does it lose

42:00

all that value when the car

42:04

delivery service drives off the property

42:06

, or does it lose all that value when they drop it

42:08

in front of your house ?

42:09

I would only be interested in this for

42:12

actual new cars . I don't think I

42:14

would buy any used car without

42:16

at least taking it out , kicking the tires and making

42:18

sure that it's working right . That's just my .

42:20

See , I can't see other companies

42:22

jumping on this , like BMW

42:24

or Lexus . I can't see them doing that .

42:26

No , they want the whole experience right Right . So you go on

42:28

in and you got the high-end coffee and

42:30

cappuccino and you're sitting down there

42:32

.

42:33

It's all the same scam , though it's

42:35

all exactly the same thing . They're doing

42:37

exactly the same thing . They're employing

42:39

psychological tricks to get you to buy stuff

42:42

they want you to buy , okay , and

42:44

new cars don't have as much profit

42:46

margin as used cars . Used

42:48

cars are the ones . If you ever

42:51

sell cars uh , used

42:53

car salesman , that's

42:55

where the money is that's right .

42:57

that makes sense , because you get it in on a trade-in and

42:59

you pay 500 bucks and say that it's not worth

43:01

anything , and then you clean

43:03

it up . Fish .

43:04

Yeah , we call it fish . You know , it's

43:06

like if you were going to get , if the , if

43:09

the markup on the car was a thousand bucks

43:11

, that's a one pound fish . Oh , okay , Then

43:13

there's the two pounder a three pounder

43:16

. Your whole goal as a salesman is

43:18

the highest pound , get the highest fish

43:20

. There you go .

43:20

All right . Well , mike , thanks for that mesmerizing

43:23

moment . Up next we have this Week in Technology

43:25

, so now would be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey

43:27

on the side , as we're going to be doing so . During the

43:29

break , you're listening to Tech Time Radio with

43:31

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43:33

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look back at this week in

44:44

technology .

44:46

All right , we're going back to December 6 , 2003

44:49

. There was an initiative that came

44:51

on out that says we will stop spam

44:54

with the CanSpam initiative

44:58

to controlling the assault of

45:00

non-solicited Pornographic

45:02

and Marketing . Act of 2003

45:05

is a law passed in 2003

45:07

to establish United States' first

45:09

national standards for sending

45:11

of commercial email . The CanSpam

45:14

Act of 2003 is signed into

45:17

law , passed in an attempt to control

45:19

the growing masses

45:21

of junk email . That word is deluge growing

45:23

masses of junk email . That word is deluge , deluge of junk email . The law

45:26

is effectively dubiously

45:29

passed . Now . This is the problem

45:31

with this whole bill . So they came on out . This

45:33

is when they

45:35

had already made it illegal to have pornographic

45:38

emails be sent , and that has really stopped

45:40

today , right , I mean , everybody

45:42

still gets those in their inbox , but that's what this

45:44

Do they ?

45:45

I don't get those in my inbox . Oh , neither do I .

45:47

No , neither do I Okay .

45:49

All right .

45:50

What are you subscribing to ? Okay ? So

45:53

, essentially , the bill fails

45:55

to prohibit many types of email spam . So

45:57

this is what the bill came on out to do , which

46:00

is horrible . In

46:06

what the bill came on out to do , which is horrible , in particular , it does not require

46:08

emailers to get permission before they send marketing messages . So that should have been number

46:10

one that it should have done . It also prevents states from enacting stronger anti-spam protections

46:12

because they wanted the government to do it . So , instead

46:14

of having to be state initiative wise

46:17

, they decided the government could take care of this back in

46:19

2003 , when they had no cyber

46:21

protection . It prohibits individuals who receive

46:23

spam from suing

46:26

spammers , except under law not

46:28

specified to email . So

46:31

this was the worst law created by people

46:33

who did not understand technology just

46:35

to make it sound like they were stopping

46:37

spam . This reminds me of , like the zuckerberg

46:40

uh , when he's gone in front of court and

46:42

they're talking about facebook and they're like oh

46:44

, facebook is horrible . And you have all these state

46:46

senators have no clue .

46:48

They don't know how it works .

46:49

You don't even got to go back that far Just

46:51

when that ? When the CEO of ByteDance

46:54

went out into Congress and it's like does

46:56

this connect to my Wi-Fi and all that

46:58

? And it's like dude .

46:59

Yeah , you're

47:07

like what the heck are you talking about ? Tell me , you don't know what you're talking about

47:09

. These senators have like no clue what they're doing . So all these people

47:11

at the government level decided to create this stop spam initiative , this that how much . This

47:13

cost over two million dollars to do

47:16

research , to do studies . And

47:18

then they came up with that they weren't going to hold people liable

47:20

. They weren't going to to do this . You didn't have to have a subscriber

47:23

list . None of these initiatives were ever

47:25

taken into place . So it just can tell you that

47:27

a good idea in

47:29

the wrong hands can actually make

47:32

things worse than make it better .

47:34

Now that was this week in technology .

47:35

Okay .

47:36

What's that ?

47:37

You know You're going to be positive .

47:39

What was the positive about this , oh ?

47:40

my positive is that I still

47:42

get all kinds of junk mail in my

47:44

regular mailbox . Why wouldn't I be getting

47:46

it in my email box ?

47:48

Okay , so there you go , so it helped

47:50

you to just have it on both platforms

47:52

. That was this week in technology . If you ever wanted

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been waiting all week for mark's

48:50

whiskey mumble okay

48:57

, mumble away , mark away

49:00

.

49:00

Okay , do you guys know what we're celebrating

49:02

today ?

49:05

What are we celebrating ? National Japanese Whiskey Day .

49:06

Okay , here's the hint .

49:07

Okay .

49:10

Terminator Day , no , oh

49:13

, judgment Day .

49:14

No , no . I don't know why Mark

49:16

picked that , but it's National

49:18

Device Appreciation Day

49:20

.

49:22

And he chose Terminator . And he chose Terminator .

49:25

I don't know why .

49:27

Maybe Mark was on vacation .

49:27

Mark , if you're listening to this , I

49:31

think you might have drank a little bit too much .

49:33

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49:36

the devices that help us lead our lives and

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49:55

Okay , so yay , I'm still

49:58

having trouble with this . I

50:00

don't know how it collects , but whatever . Maybe

50:03

that's just the first step before the machines

50:05

take over .

50:05

Okay so japan's electronics

50:08

industry is one of the largest in the world

50:10

. Like japan's electronics industry , japanese

50:12

whiskey is also showcasing the country's

50:14

expertise in a different area

50:16

. Matsui shuzo is a japanese

50:19

whiskey distillery and brewery that has been

50:21

in operation since 1910 . The

50:23

predecessor , named Agawa Shuzo

50:25

, was

50:29

an old family that ran a sake brewery from the Edo period 17th through

50:31

the 19th century . The Matsui

50:33

family acquired the business and

50:35

continued to operate it , with the 12th

50:37

generation owner being involved in the whiskey

50:40

production . This mumble today

50:42

is actually brought to you by our friend Whiskey

50:44

Chris . As Mark does not

50:47

drink single malts , he reached out to

50:49

Chris and here are his thoughts .

50:51

Okay .

50:51

The nose sherry , likely from an

50:53

ex-sherry barrel toffee

50:56

, Granny Smith apple , light vanilla

50:58

and slightly sweet floral

51:00

. The palate has raisins

51:02

, pie , crust , untoasted almonds

51:04

, cherry influence . It's still very

51:07

strong light oak cherry

51:09

pie with the mouthfeel as relatively

51:11

thin and the finish is a medium

51:14

length with darker notes with black

51:16

pepper , smoke , luxardo

51:18

cherries , dark chocolate , slight

51:20

earthy notes , a mix

51:23

of tobacco and plant potting soil

51:25

. Overall thoughts

51:27

, the sherry is front and center . The

51:29

fruit forward notes help complement

51:31

the sherry influence , stray in

51:33

a completely different direction in the finish

51:35

, adding more distracting flavors from the sherry

51:38

. With the strange earthy

51:40

note , the nose is the best part

51:42

of the whiskey . With a strange earthy note , the nose is the best part of the whiskey

51:44

. Second time I tasted this toffee

51:47

was almost more dominant than the sherry of the nose , which

51:49

improved it immensely . What do

51:52

you think ? Mark rated it .

51:56

So Mark rated it . He

51:59

didn't want to taste it . So are we doing the Mark

52:01

rating in it or do we do it the Chris through

52:03

the Mark rating ? I kind of like

52:05

Chris's Analogy . I mean , this

52:07

Chris guy Seemed to be all over it . Mark

52:10

comes on in here and kind of wings it A little bit

52:12

, that's because he knows that we

52:14

aren't Whiskey

52:17

snobs .

52:18

So from Chris I guess Mark

52:20

is .

52:21

Yeah , he kind of it , yeah , he kind of yeah .

52:24

The . It's a tentative thumbs up

52:26

. First time tasted was a thumbs down

52:28

because of that earthy soil note . Okay

52:30

, yeah , it's a thumbs up .

52:32

I kind of I kind of I kind of agree with him so

52:35

. So it has to grow on you Kind of like green mold

52:37

.

52:38

Oh , right , okay , Sure .

52:39

Why not Okay , oh okay , sure , why not Right . Okay

52:41

, all right . Well , you know , whiskey and technology are a great

52:43

pairing , just

52:46

like holiday , Christmas movies and the Hallmark Channel .

52:47

No , the Hallmark Channel ?

52:49

No , no , no oh my gosh , every story

52:51

on the Hallmark Channel is the same . You got the poor person

52:53

working man .

52:53

I hate them .

52:54

Yeah , or the person's working at this

52:56

deal .

52:57

I can , and it has the most ridiculous

52:59

thing like oh , the city girl comes back

53:01

to her hometown roots and the

53:03

city is going to be bought by some oil

53:05

mongrel that's going to destroy it

53:07

Right , and if it's not for the holiday

53:10

magic that brings the whole town

53:12

together with this one

53:14

, it's a wonderful life .

53:15

Yes , oh

53:18

, so you're saying you're not the homewrecks channel fan ?

53:20

No .

53:20

OK , All right Well apparently you are

53:22

.

53:24

Well , you know what I like . The same story over and , over and over again . I don't want

53:26

. Yeah , you're basic . Oh , yeah , you're basic

53:28

, you know what I watched ?

53:30

What'd you watch ? How the Grinch Stole Christmas ? Yeah

53:32

.

53:32

The Jim Carrey version .

53:37

All of them TV spirited , with

53:40

Ryan Reynolds in the film Jim Carrey , all the way there was this one

53:42

I watched last year , where Santa Claus

53:44

is like this ass-kicking guy

53:46

and he runs around killing mercenaries

53:49

.

53:50

That was pretty cool . You're talking

53:52

about what's his face ?

53:54

Yeah , I can't remember what the movie was called , but

53:56

these people .

53:58

He's a Norse guy . He's a Norse guy .

53:59

Yeah , they kidnapped his family . No

54:03

, no , no , no , no .

54:03

They kidnapped this group of mercenaries kidnapped

54:06

his family and he runs around with a sledgehammer just

54:08

beating the hell out of everybody . Yeah , this guy

54:10

in Stranger Things .

54:11

That's what it is .

54:11

What . Yeah , it was cool , it was good

54:14

, david Harbour .

54:15

Yeah , okay .

54:29

Yeah there , prepare for our technology fail the week brought to us by elite

54:31

executive services technology experts to help you out of

54:34

a technology fail .

54:34

We are out of time . Congratulations , you're a failure

54:37

.

54:37

Oh , I failed did I yes , did

54:39

I , yes , did I , yes . All right , this is what we got coming to

54:42

us this week . Do you like donuts

54:44

?

54:45

I'm going to say no , okay , because

54:48

I'm not supposed to Okay Krispy Kremes

54:50

.

54:50

Do you like Krispy Kremes ?

54:52

Sure .

54:53

Why not ? No , well , guess what ? Krispy Kreme

54:55

is the US donut chain and coffee house that

54:58

operates over 1,521

55:00

shops and over 15,000

55:03

plus point of access . Employees

55:06

more than 20,000 employees

55:08

. Company has an active

55:11

partnership with McDonald's to offer its products

55:13

to thousands of additional locations

55:15

. Guess what has happened to

55:17

them ?

55:18

They were hacked , weren't they ?

55:19

On November 29 , 2024 .

55:20

Did they get the donut ?

55:22

recipe All right . Krispy Kreme detected

55:24

an unauthorized activity November

55:26

29 , 2024 that has caused

55:28

disruption to its online ordering

55:30

system in the United States . On November

55:32

29 , 2024 , krispy Kreme

55:35

Inc was notified regarding an unauthorized

55:37

activity on portions of its information

55:40

technology systems . On portions of

55:42

its information technology systems , krispy

55:46

Kreme shops globally are still open , but consumers are unable to place orders

55:48

through the app . They are able to go

55:50

and visit the store in person and

55:53

be able to get their daily selection

55:56

of donuts , but if you wanted

55:58

to order , online Amazon can't deliver my Krispy

56:00

Kremes . Well , maybe they could soon . The

56:03

company has also updated its website to display

56:05

a message warning that online ordering is

56:07

disrupted . The cyber attack has

56:10

had a material impact on Krispy Kremes'

56:12

business and will continue until the recovery is complete

56:15

. The company also expects a reasonable

56:17

financial impact from the loss of revenue

56:19

from digital sales during one

56:21

of its highest times of

56:24

sales . The recovery period is still going

56:26

on and fees are being paid to cybersecurity

56:29

experts I hope it's not FireEye

56:31

and advisors and costs associated

56:33

with systems resorting efforts . Chris

56:35

McKean has not shared any additional information

56:37

about the attack , so it's unclear if the ransomware

56:40

attack or if it's a different type

56:42

of breach .

56:48

Well shoot , you can't get donuts online , that's that's a big deal , yeah , and I

56:50

have to drive to the store itself . All right , you know the

56:52

their .

56:52

The customer base nowadays is

56:55

probably like meh I don't

56:57

want them that much , I don't want them that much , so I'll just go

56:59

order them from , or they get really or they get

57:01

really ticked off and go down to the local crispy

57:04

cream and yell at them , for I love for coffee

57:06

. I crispy king coffee is nasty , but if you

57:08

want to actually get a really good uh coffee

57:10

, I like to go into duncan donuts . I

57:12

like their standard coffee . It's pretty good , all

57:14

right . Well , now let's move on to our nathan

57:17

nugget your

57:29

nugget of the week all right , so so here I'm confused .

57:30

All right , so it's 2025 , we have . Our predictions show that we have 2025

57:32

.

57:32

Well , it's almost it's 2025 , right

57:35

in in the rear corner . So here's what I'm confused

57:37

with meta and elon musk

57:39

are working together . Now they hate each

57:41

other . You got musk and he got musk and meta working together . Now they

57:43

hate each other . You got Musk and Meta working together

57:45

. You got Bezos and Microsoft working

57:47

together , amazon and Microsoft

57:50

. People that literally a

57:52

year ago , these companies hate each other

57:54

.

57:54

Are cats and dogs living together ? Is this mass hysteria

57:56

?

57:58

I don't know what's going on . Meta

58:00

is asking the California

58:03

Attorney General , rob Bonta

58:05

, to block OpenAI's plan

58:07

to transition from a nonprofit

58:10

to a for-profit entity . All

58:12

of these companies Meta , amazon

58:15

, microsoft and X have

58:17

all piled on against

58:19

OpenAI . Oh yeah , it's like the common enemy

58:21

. So now , all of a sudden , we're all friends

58:23

and now , all of

58:26

a sudden , we all like the president too , and so we're

58:28

all just going to throw on , president-elect

58:30

. Sorry , we're going to throw on that

58:33

. Now . Openai is bad because

58:35

they're moving from a charity that

58:37

used to have all this great information

58:40

to potentially being

58:42

gains as

58:44

a company that people could invest

58:46

in themselves . So Zuckerberg

58:49

is doing everything he can to fight

58:51

against OpenAI , including saying

58:53

that they should give Elon Musk

58:56

the opportunity to come on in and explain

58:58

how he created this company as

59:00

a quote-unquote , qualified and

59:03

well-positioned representative

59:05

for the Californians on

59:07

this matter .

59:10

Get out of here .

59:12

It's almost like April Fool's .

59:13

I'm just so struck with

59:16

all these people working together . Opening

59:18

eyes .

59:18

Now the bad guy , sam Altman , is

59:21

Darth Vader . All these people are all

59:23

now just trying to save .

59:24

America . Oh , that's why this is on

59:26

there , because your buddy is getting attacked

59:28

. Well , I'm just saying that I would

59:30

never have expected to have Zuckerberg . Sam

59:33

Altman has become the evil dictator

59:35

.

59:36

So that is the evil emperor for his AI stuff

59:38

, and everybody is working together . So my nugget

59:40

is I am lost of knowing who

59:42

who I like now and who I don't

59:45

like .

59:45

I mean , I'm not like any of them . I don't

59:47

. It's really easy when you just don't like it

59:49

.

59:49

You don't like any of them . I hate them all . You see , I see

59:51

this open .

59:52

AI no big deal . I don't like them .

59:57

I don't like opening . I don't like microsoft .

59:58

You use an xbox I , I

1:00:00

like my , yeah , I like my video

1:00:02

games . I like I'm

1:00:05

gonna sit here and be a hypocrite because

1:00:07

I use a lot of technology .

1:00:09

You do , but I also from an

1:00:12

alexa in your device .

1:00:13

I hate alexa I thought you talked to alexa

1:00:16

, I thought you . It is device appreciation

1:00:18

day .

1:00:18

Oh , I can't I cannot appreciate

1:00:21

that device .

1:00:21

Come on , you talk to Alexa all the time .

1:00:24

I ask Alette questions and

1:00:26

she can't ever give me the right answer

1:00:29

or she gives me a whole different thing .

1:00:30

It's because you need to use the OpenAI version

1:00:33

of Alexa .

1:00:33

Sure , maybe that's what I but I can open

1:00:35

up my Google phone and ask the exact

1:00:38

same question and get the answer . I can

1:00:40

type it into my Bing

1:00:42

. Get a whole bunch of Alexa

1:00:44

sucks . I

1:00:46

will not appreciate any

1:00:49

Alexa stuff today . I yell

1:00:51

at her all the time . I'm

1:00:55

always cussing at her , so she always gives me the

1:00:57

bum bum noise

1:01:00

when they hang up on you .

1:01:04

Okay , you know what I think , mike , we're

1:01:06

about out of time . You know what we want to

1:01:08

thank our listeners for joining the program

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1:01:17

all the Nathan Nugget items available

1:01:19

on our page . I'm not going to be posting my rant

1:01:21

about all these people suing

1:01:23

Sam Altman , so you're going to have to tell the beginning of the

1:01:25

year You're going to rant about it next week . We're excited

1:01:28

that our upcoming show is going to be our prediction

1:01:30

show . We're going to look back at how Odie , mike and

1:01:32

myself did on predictions of what was going to

1:01:34

happen and then we're going to make some new predictions . I

1:01:37

can't wait for that . Over the year , you know , we want everybody

1:01:39

to be safe during the holidays . Make sure

1:01:41

that you drink responsibly . Heaven

1:01:46

can wait , is that ?

1:01:46

what Mark always says . Yeah , that's what he says . What do you guys rate

1:01:49

today's Kuro Yoshi Distillery Japanese

1:01:52

whiskey ? Oh yeah , we're going to do the whole whiskey thing .

1:01:54

Thumbs up or thumbs down . Yeah , thumbs up or thumbs

1:01:56

down , I'm not going to give it a thumbs up .

1:01:58

Is it thumbs down Is ?

1:01:59

it thumbs down for me .

1:02:00

I didn't like it either .

1:02:01

Okay .

1:02:01

I mean , I spent a lot of time buying this , so I

1:02:03

should have this whole deal about where

1:02:05

I love this . I did not . You know what . It

1:02:07

was a screw cap instead of a cork cap . That was

1:02:09

the side .

1:02:10

That was it . It had nothing to do with the

1:02:12

funky soil flavor .

1:02:14

It did not . That was it . All

1:02:17

right . Tomorrow starts with the technology of today . We'll

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