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Hi, this is Michael
2:16
buffer and you're listening to
2:18
the voice of the people.
2:21
Let's get ready for boxing
2:23
voice. Every day I'm hustling,
2:25
every day I'm hustling, every
2:27
day I'm hustling, every day
2:30
I'm hustling, every day I'm
2:32
husting. Only one will stand. And
2:34
Bill, Haney, where are you me, Haney,
2:37
come with that fight plan.
2:39
They didn't think some
2:41
niggas out of Oakland
2:43
was gonna push up
2:46
on their ass. You
2:48
did, boom. The boxing
2:50
voice. Com. Go tell
2:53
the truth and shame
2:55
the devil that Devon
2:57
is a devil that
3:00
Devon is a bad
3:02
motherf... This is different.
3:04
We have Jennifer Lopez,
3:07
we have Jennifer Lopez,
3:11
we have
3:13
Maluma, we
3:15
have Jay
3:18
Bobin, we
3:21
have... You
3:24
know, the
3:27
crowd
3:29
isn't
3:32
white,
3:34
so
3:36
I
3:38
do.
3:41
Uh-huh.
3:52
I want to show all my experience, everything
3:54
that it took to get to this point. I
3:56
want to show the world. Who's the best young
3:58
fighter in the game? Me by far.
4:00
For the 54th and second round, Devin
4:03
Haiti has outlanted his opponent in total
4:05
tonight. He can't submit, he can get
4:07
the bag all he wants, but it's
4:09
different when you've been there with Devin
4:11
Haiti. Got most shows you in trouble.
4:14
The boxing police dot com, you've set
4:16
a lot, and he did a lot,
4:18
tomorrow, you're in trouble. Ladies
4:48
and gentlemen, welcome back to
4:51
another edition of The Boxing
4:53
Voice radio. I am your
4:55
host, Nestor Gibbs, No Manolo,
4:57
every day we hustle, man.
5:00
Do apologize about yesterday. Obviously,
5:02
if you, you know, tuned
5:04
into the community page, you
5:07
know that I suffered a
5:09
fire and yeah, I just
5:11
couldn't, you know, work yesterday,
5:13
right? Had that fire department
5:16
and all that crazy shit
5:18
here. But we are back
5:20
and we are okay. So
5:23
we're just gonna, you know,
5:25
keep it moving. Obviously there's
5:27
some big news to discuss
5:29
today. Looks like Ford magazine
5:32
is reporting that Devin Haney
5:34
and Tefimo Lopez are in
5:36
negotiations for an alleged Superfight.
5:39
So that's, you know, something
5:41
that we were gonna be
5:43
discussing here. And ask each
5:45
other, do we think it's
5:48
real? We've seen reports of
5:50
a potential Devin Haney and
5:52
Tefimo Lopez fight in the
5:55
past. It was supposed to
5:57
be sponsored by Riyadh season.
5:59
in Turkey Alashik, according to
6:01
Bill Haney, the offer was
6:04
presented to Tio via Turkey
6:06
Alashik, who just bought the
6:08
ring magazine and claims that
6:11
the ring will be an
6:13
independent magazine, that even though
6:15
they have purchased it, the
6:17
ring will be independent and
6:20
not be part of reod
6:22
season or influenced by reod
6:24
season. So we'll see how
6:27
true that is. Once upon
6:29
a time, the ring magazine
6:31
was. a prestigious belt and
6:33
rankings will see can they
6:36
get them back to that
6:38
level but this is what
6:40
we're talking about Tefimo Lopez.
6:43
Welcome to blog talk ready.
6:45
Devin Haney in what Forbes
6:47
magazine is calling, Devin Haney's
6:49
return is being negotiated and
6:51
it is a mega fight
6:53
with Tefimo Lopez. Let's see,
6:55
do we actually get this?
6:58
Now, there's no date, there's
7:00
no venue, just a hot
7:02
button topic with some news
7:04
that we can bounce back
7:06
and forth. Potentially, this fight
7:08
takes place and we can
7:10
finally see who's the better
7:12
fighter out of both Devin
7:14
and Tio. They've been linked
7:16
to each other for quite
7:18
some time now. And, you
7:20
know. It's the perfect time
7:22
to get this fight on.
7:24
We've waited far too long.
7:26
Both men are available. So
7:28
yeah, I think it's great
7:30
news that we are able
7:32
to discuss. You know, Mum's
7:34
the word with Tia. We
7:36
haven't heard him say much.
7:38
And sometimes, you know, I
7:40
feel like no news is
7:42
good news, you know. Usually
7:44
when you're not hearing anything
7:46
means that negotiations are going
7:48
well. And yeah, man. Hopefully
7:50
the fight does take place,
7:52
but this is what we're
7:54
talking about if you guys
7:56
are interested, then you know
7:58
the number of... in today
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is going to be one
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five six three nine nine
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nine thirty four twenty seven
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press one one time if
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you're calling in using your
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cell phone or your landline
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to get on Q also
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we have discord available and
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Twitter spaces available for anybody
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that wants to walk rock
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and row Let me get
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a sound check on discord
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as I forgot to make
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sure that was working properly
8:28
Same thing on X spaces.
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Yeah, man. Let's get this
8:32
thing going. No sad stories.
8:34
It is what it is
8:36
man. We're gonna we're gonna
8:38
keep grinding We are at
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two hundred and thirty three
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thousand five hundred and thirty
8:44
four thousand, you know numbers
8:46
is power power is respect
8:48
respect brings those big Mother
8:50
F. In interviews, man. So
8:52
if you want to see,
8:54
you know, TBV. Grow, make
8:56
sure you tell a friend
8:58
and tell a friend. So
9:00
let's get into some of
9:02
these details. Not a lot
9:04
as the author is quote-on-quote
9:06
saying he was told this
9:08
by sources. And I quote,
9:10
according to sources, I spoke
9:13
to with direct knowledge. Haney
9:15
is negotiating to face T.
9:17
A female Lopez in a
9:19
return bout. or money, but
9:21
Haney and Lopez would headline
9:23
a massive card in 2025
9:25
if the fight is agreed
9:27
to. The card would be
9:29
broadcast on ESBN and promoted
9:31
by top rank. So that's
9:33
a good little detail. Does
9:35
that mean that Devin is
9:37
signing another deal with top
9:39
rank? If so, I would
9:41
take, if I'm Devin, I
9:43
would take the TEO fight
9:45
first and then take the...
9:47
Sandor Martin fight second so
9:49
that I can get my
9:51
belt back. Now I got
9:53
two belts if I'm able
9:55
to beat T.F. Lopez for
9:57
his W.B.O. You know, I
10:00
acted. my champion and interim
10:02
status and get back my
10:04
WBC. Now I am currently
10:06
unified at 40, giving me
10:08
accolades and achievements. I hope
10:10
that's the route that Devin's
10:12
going versus backwards, right? Backwards
10:14
would be fighting Sandor first,
10:16
getting that title, then going
10:18
to unify with TEO. Too
10:20
long. You know, it'll make
10:22
the negotiations even worse because
10:24
now we both got belt,
10:26
so I feel like I
10:28
deserve more. You feel like
10:30
you deserve more. Yada yada
10:32
yada. Shit ends up not
10:34
happening. So I like the
10:36
way that they're doing it.
10:38
Is Haney going to sign
10:40
a two fight deal? Would
10:42
this be a one fight?
10:44
It's top rank crazy enough
10:46
to give Haney a one
10:48
fight with Tefimo. Winner walks
10:50
away. Now this
10:53
is what we're talking about if
10:55
you're interested. You know the number
10:57
to call 156 3 999 34
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Do me a favor quick little
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could potentially put new Listeners and
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potentially new callers, you know, we
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always want new characters on the
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show, giving their takes and opinions,
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helping us all get through that
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workday. So once again, if you're
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here on YouTube, smash the thumbs
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episode in the eyes of boxing
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fans that haven't quite found us
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yet. Phone lines are open if
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anybody wants to call in and
11:40
voice their opinion on the potential
11:42
super fight between Tefimo Lopez and
11:44
Devahani. Now if you want to
11:47
call in and say it's not
11:49
going to happen, it's not going
11:51
to happen. I understand that too.
11:53
Being as though this is a
11:55
fight that's been talked about for
11:57
so long, it almost feels like
12:00
it's not gonna happen. They can't
12:02
seem to put it together. We
12:04
shall see. though, right? It is
12:06
certainly a fight that the boxing
12:08
fans would be interested in. I
12:10
will say this, I only seen
12:13
one of the episodes to, I
12:15
guess it's like the 24-7 for
12:17
Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. It's
12:19
a three-part Netflix series. I got
12:21
to watch one episode yesterday, so
12:23
not fully caught up. Production was
12:25
phenomenal. And if you watch that
12:28
first episode and you still, Tyson,
12:30
is gonna win, you're obviously delusional.
12:32
And nostalgic, you know, you have
12:34
some sort of nostalgia attached to
12:36
you with Mike Tyson and it's
12:38
clouding your judgment, but we seem
12:41
to do taking his medication. He
12:43
looks like an old man drinking
12:45
pills. Come on, man. He talks
12:47
like an old man drinking pills.
12:49
Come on, man. He talks like
12:51
an old man. Look, I'm trying
12:54
my best. You got three days
12:56
to save your money and I
12:58
see a lot of you fucking
13:00
weirdos about to lose it. Don't
13:02
do it. Don't do it, man.
13:04
Look, you're better off not betting
13:06
and then laughing at me if
13:09
I'm wrong versus betting. And believe
13:11
me, I'm gonna laugh at your
13:13
dumb ass if you lose money
13:15
on Tyson. Tell me right now
13:17
my man looked dumb fucking old
13:19
and everybody they spoke to said
13:22
the same god damn thing well
13:24
we gonna have to see he
13:26
is 27 we gonna have to
13:28
see he is 58 it's like
13:30
bro we know how old he
13:32
is and we know what he
13:35
is and what he not fucking
13:37
doing only dummies are falling for
13:39
the old Mike Tyson nostalgia shit
13:41
but hey if you watch that
13:43
episode feel free to give you
13:45
a takes on it I did
13:48
not watch all three. We got
13:50
easem with the first super chat
13:52
two dollars back to free TV.
13:54
Let's hope that is the case,
13:56
you know. Tyson and Jake Paul
13:58
seemed to be making a lot
14:00
of noise. Hopefully, you know, Eddie
14:03
was asked this question whether or
14:05
not he thought Netflix would be
14:07
involved in boxing next year. He
14:09
didn't really have an answer. And
14:11
I think it just it just
14:13
rests on the shoulders of Jake.
14:16
You know, in that episode though,
14:18
he tells you. He wants a
14:20
world title and he wants Canello.
14:22
And believe you me, when Canello
14:24
sees those numbers in Texas where...
14:27
Canello did what 70
14:29
with Billy Joe? We'll
14:31
see Canello taking that
14:33
fight. Easy money, huge
14:35
exposure. I don't see
14:38
how you can walk
14:40
away from it. Now
14:42
all that could be,
14:44
you know, put to
14:46
the back burner if
14:48
our good friend Jake
14:50
Paul cannot get the
14:53
win as plan. But
14:55
he is a. the
14:57
favorite man and should
14:59
not be losing to
15:01
the likes of Mike
15:03
Tyson, you know, taking
15:05
three days off to
15:08
rest. It just, it
15:10
doesn't seem right. But
15:12
we haven't heard anything
15:14
from Tiafimo or Bill.
15:16
So again, Mum's the
15:18
word could be true.
15:20
This news. Not sure.
15:22
Could be true. Could
15:25
be true. But
15:27
again phone lines are open if you
15:29
want to call in and voice your
15:31
opinion on the people's hotline. We got
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Profound Dreamer. Hey, gather round TV. V.
15:36
That's if you're still listening. Get on
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down with these profound rhythms. What's up?
15:41
That's good morning, man. Shout out to
15:43
you for pushing through and doing the
15:45
show after what happened. but you've been
15:47
dealing with in your personal life man.
15:50
I just want to say I appreciate
15:52
you and salute to you. your family
15:54
bro. Appreciate you man. Thank you. Yeah,
15:56
I mean look the fire was actually
15:59
right here in the studio. You can't
16:01
see it. All this shit got fucked
16:03
up and Yeah, I've been wiping all
16:06
day. I can't even you know, I'm
16:08
gonna have to call the restoration company
16:10
because the smoke doesn't come off. It's
16:12
on everything my Hopefully you got that
16:15
insurance that oh yeah No, no, no,
16:17
you know I got the insurance I
16:19
mean I got the insurance on the
16:21
house I don't know and the PS5
16:24
does have insurance because we just bought
16:26
it Yeah, that's what's up man Yeah,
16:28
I'm glad to hear everything is okay
16:31
man Yeah, we wasn't in our house.
16:33
So luckily we was good dogs almost
16:35
died though Oh okay, yeah, yeah, that's
16:37
what I was worried about when you,
16:40
you know, yeah, those dogs, them dogs
16:42
was at the front door and, uh,
16:44
bro, they was covered in smoke, you
16:46
couldn't see shit, it was black cell
16:49
and it was crazy, that was pretty
16:51
wild, pretty wild. Man, well again, man,
16:53
salute to you and, you know, praise
16:56
you and your family, and thank you
16:58
again for doing today show, man, but,
17:00
on to the topic and the shenanigans,
17:02
man, man, listen. This is something that's
17:05
consistent with what we've been seeing from
17:07
the T.O. camp and from the handy
17:09
camp. I personally think these guys are
17:12
on the same page. They work together.
17:14
It is clear that they have a
17:16
friendly relationship between those two camps. The
17:18
way Bill calls T.O. by pet name,
17:21
he calls them Gordo and... the way
17:23
Tio father and Bill's father work together
17:25
to promote and create propaganda and social
17:27
media like those guys are clearly on
17:30
the same page right so this fight
17:32
might happen but in my opinion I
17:34
don't see it happening at 40 and
17:37
I definitely don't see it see Devon
17:39
coming back to the ring before April
17:41
regardless of what what excuses we got
17:43
or what reasons we got I gonna
17:46
call them excuses because Ryan did fail
17:48
to test but Devon took a he
17:50
took a lot of punishment in April.
17:52
And I don't think he need to
17:55
be back in the ring before a
17:57
year passes. I think he's doing the
17:59
right things outside the ring as far
18:02
as maintaining his training regimen, maintaining his
18:04
strength and conditioning and staying on a
18:06
living an athlete lifestyle, right? And maintaining
18:08
his way and all of those things,
18:11
but I don't see Devon returning in
18:13
February on this big reality season card
18:15
they talking about. But hey, and I
18:18
don't see them guys fighting at 40
18:20
either. The way T.O. has been going
18:22
after welto weights and claiming he ready
18:24
to go up to 54 and like
18:27
I said, Devin, the only real fight
18:29
he's been entertaining is the Ryan rematch
18:31
and that's another welto weight fight. So
18:33
I really don't believe these guys are
18:36
gonna continue their careers at 140. Like
18:38
Haney's been looking really bad on the
18:40
scales making weight at 140 and even
18:43
going into the rioting. he didn't look
18:45
good on the skills but that's you
18:47
know that's part of the game you
18:49
got to make weight right um so
18:52
yeah that's that on that man we'll
18:54
see if it happens but I doubt
18:56
it man and I did want to
18:58
clear up what I was trying to
19:01
get to yesterday man because I feel
19:03
like he wasn't filling me but maybe
19:05
we could we could do this again
19:08
man listen my only thing I was
19:10
trying to say between tank and Chicago
19:12
is that the narrative has to change
19:14
I feel like Shakor is the biggest
19:17
name under the Riyadh season banner at
19:19
135. And we cannot give Shakor and
19:21
when you're in a position like that,
19:24
we can't give Shakor passes on fighting
19:26
top guys. If Kishar is able to
19:28
become a champion, that's a real fight.
19:30
And they won't have to put they
19:33
all personal differences or personal togetherness aside
19:35
and try to make that happen for
19:37
the fans or one of y'all gonna
19:39
have to move up. Like that we
19:42
can't give these guys a pass on
19:44
watching. 135 have a new undisputed champion.
19:46
So like I said, Shakur is in
19:49
a position now where he's the top
19:51
guy with the biggest money behind him
19:53
at 135. So it's not up to
19:55
Shakur to sit back. and wait for
19:58
guys to send him off. Once he
20:00
gets past these two fights under matchroom,
20:02
he's gonna be working with Turkey Al-Shik
20:04
as a free agent. And there's a
20:07
lot of responsibility that comes with that.
20:09
When you're as young as Shakur is
20:11
and you're in a division that's as
20:14
hot as 135, you've got to make
20:16
fights. You've got to put your foot
20:18
down and let Turkey know these are
20:20
the guys I want. You've got to
20:23
make fights happen. And I'm saying, Tank
20:25
is not the biggest money cash cow
20:27
at 135. That shit is a facade.
20:29
We see in it because the PVC
20:32
is being forced to sell us the
20:34
Lamont Roach fight. Like that's come on,
20:36
man. Like I said, the proof is
20:39
in the pudding. They wouldn't be trying
20:41
to sell us though Lamont Roach versus
20:43
Tank if they weren't forced to. You
20:45
know what I'm saying? And that's what
20:48
I'm saying. The narrative got to change
20:50
and we got to start applying pressure
20:52
on Turkey and Shakur to make these
20:55
fights. You know, that's that's my point.
20:57
So you know, that's my call for
20:59
now. I'll call back in, you know,
21:01
if it gets spicy today, man, but
21:04
shout out to you, bro. Appreciate you,
21:06
man. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you. John,
21:08
the hangout spot. What it do? What
21:10
it do? What it do, man? Good
21:13
morning TB. smoke inhalation right but other
21:15
than that we good you know thankful
21:17
you're right yeah thankful nobody was here
21:20
just the dogs and and we got
21:22
here in time we had a pretty
21:24
cool neighbor so you know God is
21:26
good man God is good you know
21:29
these material things you can always get
21:31
back now I feel you man a
21:33
shout out to you man back on
21:35
the grind the next morning Bro, is
21:38
that I'm old already, bro? Like what,
21:40
I mean, you know, look, I had
21:42
to wait for the insurance. and everything,
21:45
you know, they gotta send someone out
21:47
to see all the damage, but I'm
21:49
like, I can't just sit in my
21:51
house with the shit covered with black
21:54
smoke, so like me and my wife's
21:56
clean. And I don't know if that's
21:58
gonna affect the insurance claim, we took
22:01
pictures and videos, but you know, you
22:03
can't touch it, it's shit, I mean,
22:05
it's still black, yeah, I can't see
22:07
it, but like the ceiling, all the
22:10
fucking around, it's dark as dark as
22:12
hell, and it, and it's dark as
22:14
hell, and it, and it, and it's
22:16
dark, and it's dark, and it, and
22:19
it's dark, and it's dark, and it's
22:21
dark, and it's dark, and it's, and
22:23
it's dark, and it's, and it's dark,
22:26
and it's, and it's dark, and it's,
22:28
and it's, and it's dark, and it's,
22:30
and it's, and it's, and it's, and
22:32
it's, Hopefully the rabies should grow or
22:35
something like that. Yeah, you're right. Yeah,
22:37
no man. It's the smoke is still
22:39
smelly. So like I got the doors
22:41
in the windows open, but you know,
22:44
it is what it is, bro. It
22:46
is what it is. Again, no one
22:48
was home except the dogs and they
22:51
are just black as hell, got to
22:53
wash them. But yeah. What up, man,
22:55
what you think about Haney and uh.
22:57
T-O-man, I mean we've been hearing I
23:00
swear I feel like we've been hitting
23:02
this fight for like six years So
23:04
it's just like maybe six is too
23:07
long, but I think six might be
23:09
it though Definitely a few years you
23:11
ain't you ain't cabin. It's definitely a
23:13
few years. It's definitely a few years.
23:16
I'm a check man. I'm gonna see
23:18
how long ago was six years because
23:20
it feels like this is never gonna
23:22
happen and now you know we're getting
23:25
reports that it will Author
23:27
that wrote the undisputed
23:30
article that we did
23:32
a story on you
23:35
know Basically letting the
23:38
world know that fight
23:40
night was coming back,
23:43
but It would be
23:45
difficult for fight night
23:48
to surpass undisputed because
23:50
they had all the
23:53
fighters in contract um
23:56
Only or do you think there
23:59
is enough? location? I think it's
24:01
got to be a Vegas fight, man, but
24:03
first and foremost, my boxing just makes
24:05
it so hard for the fan to
24:07
be optimistic, man, because like you said,
24:09
we've been waiting for this fight for
24:12
how many years, man? So it's about time.
24:14
I'm hoping that the rumors are true.
24:16
Another location, I don't know if you
24:18
touched upon that earlier, it could be Saudi
24:20
Arabia, right? We art season, I think Turkey,
24:22
I think Turkey, I heard something when I
24:25
was logging in about potentially Turkey,
24:27
Turkey, Turkey, Reaching out the Tia
24:29
female for Lopez about this fight?
24:31
Well, that's certainly what Bill said
24:34
on the interview here that, you
24:36
know, Alashik is the financial backer
24:38
for the offer for Devin and
24:40
Tio. And, you know, obviously Tio
24:43
didn't take it back then.
24:45
I'm hoping that they're revisiting
24:47
those conversations and that's why,
24:50
you know, this news is out here. Got
24:52
you, got you, man. But if it
24:54
does happen, man, shout out to Devin
24:56
Haney, because... I always thought that coming
24:58
back, his comeback fight should be
25:01
more of a layup against somebody
25:03
who isn't really a puncher or a
25:05
rival. So he can get back into
25:07
the swing of things, you know, after
25:09
that, uh, after that Ryan Garcia fight,
25:12
but if he gets right back into
25:14
the mix of it, fighting a big
25:16
name like Tio, man, shout out to
25:18
him and Tio, Fimo Lopez, if he's
25:20
smart man, I think this is
25:22
the right time to catch Devin
25:24
Haney, we're gonna see in this
25:26
comeback. Exactly. You know what I
25:29
mean? From a skill perspective, I
25:31
would have always favored Haney before
25:33
the Garcia fight to beat Tio.
25:35
Yeah. But right now, I don't
25:37
know. You know what I'm saying?
25:40
It's like me. It's like me,
25:42
bro. No matter how strong tank
25:44
was, I thought Haney could out
25:46
box him. You know, and I don't
25:49
know about that no more. I don't,
25:51
you know, there's a big question mark. So if
25:53
it does happen, shout out to Deb, but at
25:55
the end of the day, that you know, deal
25:57
with him. I think he's a significant underdog now.
26:00
I think he has to be.
26:02
Yeah, absolutely. I'm talking about versus
26:04
tank though, not versus T-O. I
26:06
mean, I think he's still gonna
26:09
be an underdog versus T-O-2 because
26:11
T-O-S power. And you know, the
26:13
bookies don't know. They don't know
26:16
if it's Austrian, they don't know
26:18
if it's his chin. We don't
26:20
know if he's Gamboa, but gets
26:22
up and win. So who is
26:25
Devahaney. We don't know yet. We
26:27
don't know yet man, and we
26:29
don't know if that's gonna be
26:32
a reoccurring thing You know now
26:34
you get hit on the chin.
26:36
Are you gonna you know is
26:38
his chin damaged? Are we gonna
26:41
see residual effects of that? You
26:43
know people with smarter boxing minds
26:45
than us believe that he lost
26:48
years off his career With that
26:50
with the with the punches to
26:52
be honest with you. I don't
26:54
know about years You know, but
26:57
a fight like that, I mean,
26:59
it was a, it was a
27:01
brutal fight for Dev and that's
27:04
what I said, man. I always
27:06
thought a layup, more of a
27:08
layup, more of a non-puncher like
27:10
Sandon Martin. You know, I thought
27:13
he would make more sense for
27:15
that comeback fight. But another question
27:17
I have is, what weight will
27:20
this take place at? Will it
27:22
be at 140? You
27:24
need a belt on the line.
27:27
I get it. If it's a
27:29
re-art season fight, you don't need
27:31
a belt. We've seen Wilder Zang
27:34
and other high-level fights without a
27:36
strap. But this younger generation is
27:38
more about accolades. T-O specifically, Devin
27:40
as well. You know, these guys
27:43
want to be first at doing
27:45
something and want to be the
27:47
man doing something. You see. But
27:49
always bragged about having ring magazines.
27:52
T-O bragging about being first undisputed,
27:54
even though not everyone... believes it.
27:56
Devin and his father brag about
27:59
being the youngest undisputed. So maybe
28:01
there is a belt, T or
28:03
female specifically. Hopefully, in a crazy
28:05
world, Mauricio reinstates Devin because he
28:08
is fighting a top 10 fighter
28:10
who is a champion. Leaves Player
28:12
with the interim, reinstates Devin making
28:14
this a formal unification about. with
28:17
the contingency that Devin must face
28:19
Boileo next. If I were Devin,
28:21
I would petition, have Mauricio put
28:24
the belt back on the line,
28:26
even if it's a vacant, which
28:28
wouldn't be respect for the Boileo,
28:30
they have to reinstate Devin in
28:33
my theory. Reinstate Devin, and if
28:35
Devin is like not into the
28:37
Sandor Martin fight? You know, you
28:39
win the belt from T.O. and
28:42
then you vacate. You already became
28:44
unified at 40. You can easily
28:46
now move up. You beat T.O.
28:49
You beat Regis. You unified. You
28:51
don't got to stick around. You
28:53
move up. Now you have 47.
28:55
You don't have to fight. Boy,
28:58
you. Petition to be reinstated like
29:00
you done in the past. This
29:02
is not a hypothetical. He was
29:04
champion at recess versus when Ryan
29:07
was trying to fight Javier Fortuna
29:09
for his belt, he came back
29:11
to the W.C. Look, my shoulder's
29:14
fine, I could defend my belt,
29:16
and they reinstated him. Do it
29:18
again. Do it again. Do it
29:20
again. I'm fine. Reinstate me, I'm
29:23
fighting Tio. It's a unification. I
29:25
promise I'll fight. Boio after. And
29:27
as soon as you win, vacate.
29:29
Move up. You need to fight
29:32
Boio for. No, I like the
29:34
thought process man, but it goes
29:36
back to what I said earlier
29:39
man, the shit that the fans
29:41
want is. that would be going
29:43
to get. You know what I'm
29:45
saying? I think it would make
29:48
sense to be able to reinstate
29:50
him, but you know how it
29:52
is that's, I mean, it's hard
29:54
for us to be optimistic, man.
29:57
And you said something earlier that
29:59
made sense. Tio's been really, really
30:01
quiet, which is very unlike Tio.
30:04
What's going on? What's popping here?
30:06
No, and I get you. I
30:08
get you, and typically I would
30:10
be with you, but remember he
30:13
isn't some sort of legalities, legalities
30:15
with top rank, so the quiet
30:17
could be that. But let me
30:19
get to this counterpunch from mr.
30:22
perfect What it do one those
30:24
dias? Shout out to mr. perfect
30:26
Yo And go crazy, is it
30:29
official though? Nah, nah, nah, this
30:31
is a report from a reporter
30:33
on Forbes magazine, Marcus, I'll get
30:35
his last name, and he said
30:38
his sources are telling him this
30:40
is what's gonna happen. So as
30:42
of right now, it is not
30:44
official, but obviously multiple people are
30:47
now reporting on it as Forbes
30:49
is a, you know, legitimate website.
30:51
Yeah, I haven't seen that shit
30:54
like I'm like what I had
30:56
woke up like hell no wait
30:58
a minute We've been waiting on
31:00
this shit for years and that
31:03
word man what? This is the
31:05
fight. That's gonna prove Devin Show
31:07
niggers that he still got it
31:09
So I'm rocking with Devin hold
31:12
way So we knocked this nig
31:14
out But I hope you don't
31:16
go on there with that mentality
31:19
like he did with Ryan man
31:21
be smarter Uh, shit, I got
31:23
dabbing the new shit. And uh,
31:25
thought out the boots man, it
31:28
was a whole bunch of slander
31:30
on boots yesterday, man. For the
31:32
past couple of days, man. That
31:34
nigga just fought to his competition.
31:37
I know that's a bad thing
31:39
to do, but I think he'd
31:41
do good at 54. I got
31:44
him beating the fuck out of
31:46
him. BAM. Niggas was talking about
31:48
BAM only fighting. Oh niggas bam
31:50
the truth bro. To have all
31:53
these legends on his resume at
31:55
this young age, you the truth.
31:57
And ain't shit to go but
32:00
top from him. And he do
32:02
got a mega fight coming up.
32:04
And I think it's wit. Y'all
32:06
know who but we ain't rushing
32:09
it because that shit gonna happen
32:11
because both of them you are.
32:13
But yeah, Devin. This was up,
32:15
bro. This one's gonna hear a
32:18
bill. We need to confirm, man.
32:20
Bring your ass on the show
32:22
shit, man. So yeah, I like
32:25
the fight yeah, I got Devin
32:27
just the fight that's gonna get
32:29
him back That I think I'll
32:31
be at the top top level
32:34
once we just man with his
32:36
niggles get this niggles sport Well,
32:38
he ain't gonna get out the
32:40
sport, but he ain't gonna get
32:43
out the sport But he ain't
32:45
gonna be asked for no more
32:47
big fights when Devin beat the
32:50
fuck out him he ain't gonna
32:52
be asked for no more Crawford,
32:54
so this guy's you know, you
32:56
know this man with this naked
32:59
you already know what it is
33:01
man? You already know what it
33:03
is man, man, man, man, man,
33:05
man, man, man, man, man, man,
33:08
man, man, man, man, man, it
33:10
is man, man, man, man, man,
33:12
man, man, man, man, man, man,
33:15
man, man, man, man, man, man,
33:17
he is, man, man, man, man,
33:19
man, man, he is, man, man,
33:21
man, man, man, man, man Alright,
33:24
so before anyone says I'm exaggerating,
33:27
which I thought I was, I
33:29
will be honest, I will be
33:31
honest, I thought there was a
33:34
strong possibility I would have been
33:36
exaggerating slightly, but guess what? It's
33:38
really been six years. T.O. beat
33:41
Menard first. And if not, it's
33:43
cool. That means Devin beat him
33:45
first and then T.O. Not. them
33:48
out badly and got a lot
33:50
of height. But they were both
33:52
in the tournament at that time.
33:55
And that's when T.O. left the
33:57
tournament and went the I.B.F. route.
33:59
And Devin obviously stood in the
34:02
tournament, faced, you know, Doug Nondini,
34:04
which I'm pronouncing wrong. And Dini
34:06
I think end on Dini and
34:09
I'm telling him around and then
34:11
zap do I have the liar
34:13
So it you know it certainly
34:16
is six years at the very
34:18
least five, but I'm telling you
34:20
I bet you if I do
34:23
like Devon versus Google search of
34:25
Devon versus T-O and Put like
34:27
2018 it'll I mean what is
34:30
what year I got here? It'll
34:32
come up like articles. Yeah, 2018
34:34
It'll come up all because I'm
34:37
gonna try and find some but
34:39
we are taking phone lines if
34:41
you're interested in calling in you
34:44
know what to do. CYP what
34:46
up? CYP. I mean, truth be
34:48
said, taking it even the cash
34:51
card 135. Like, man, listen to
34:53
me, dude, listen, man. We don't
34:55
have to lie to kick it
34:58
on this show, man. If you
35:00
realize that every single fighter he
35:02
fought in 135, that dude became
35:05
a millionaire, you must not know,
35:07
like, how much boxers really make.
35:09
You think they all make millions
35:12
of dollars when they fight him.
35:14
Don't you remember what Ryan Garcia
35:16
was trying to Oscar because he
35:19
wasn't making enough money and the
35:21
Oscar to boost his pay up
35:23
to half a half a million?
35:26
Half a million he had to
35:28
boost it up to when he
35:30
was talking about leaving and crying
35:33
about it. But you seem to
35:35
think that a fighter is less
35:38
than Ryan Garcia making a... million
35:40
dollars is normal. That ain't normal.
35:42
Rowley, you care a millionaire. Cruz,
35:45
Barrios, the other Garcia. Frank Martin,
35:47
all of them get a million
35:49
dollars at least when they fought
35:52
tank, but he's not the cash
35:54
cow 135. You must think hundred
35:56
thirty-five pounds is rich. Like don't
35:59
you remember that, well you probably
36:01
don't know if you say stupid
36:03
shit. There was a time where
36:06
there was only a few guys
36:08
that at welter-to-weight that was making
36:10
money like that was making money
36:13
like them. And then Floyd came
36:15
through and took the game over
36:17
because little dudes wasn't really making
36:20
money like that. But now you're
36:22
talking about 135. That's not about
36:24
47. Remember we just talked about
36:27
147, the money division. You're talking
36:29
about 135. So those dudes must
36:31
be getting rich. If tank ain't
36:34
the one helping them get rich,
36:36
they must be getting rich. They
36:38
must be getting rich. They must
36:41
be getting rich. Don't stay in
36:43
helping them get rich. But don't
36:45
even, it's like, I'm not joking,
36:48
man. I'm sick and tired of
36:50
you all embarrassing people. Stop, stop
36:52
calling in, saying shit that everybody
36:55
knows untrue, but you say it
36:57
with your chest like you were
36:59
at the college or something to
37:02
study dumb shit. Like I with
37:04
the college, I didn't know dumb
37:06
shit was a course, but some
37:09
of y'all be saying some of
37:11
the dumb miss shit. My next
37:13
call going to be about the
37:16
topic, but that shit had to
37:18
be addressed. I'm sick and tired.
37:20
I did find an article with
37:23
Devahaney and Mason Menad. So hopefully
37:25
there's a quote here, because this
37:27
is about that fight, but they
37:30
got quotes, so. It's definitely been
37:32
more than five years, because I've
37:34
been in Florida for four, and
37:37
I remember seeing some shit when
37:39
I lived in PA. So it's
37:41
definitely been at least five years,
37:44
now that I think about it.
37:46
Yeah, I don't see, not one
37:48
word from about, oh, oh, oh,
37:51
oh, oh, oh. They
38:00
do have a low pass quote.
38:02
But it's, uh, I don't know
38:04
what low pass, I don't know
38:06
why don't we have the fucking
38:09
first name. Uh, we're going out
38:11
to, Voxiana, what up? Good morning.
38:13
Shout out to Voxiana, what up?
38:15
Good morning. Shout out to the
38:17
bothering voice. Guess with Onan, her
38:20
hair status. Hope everybody is having
38:22
a great day today. Um, shout
38:24
out to no, no toen up
38:26
Shawnee. Um, if this is correct,
38:28
Devin Haney is doing his big
38:31
one. Um, I hope people give
38:33
him the credit that he deserves
38:35
for like coming out, taking a
38:37
fight like this, because he should
38:39
be, like y'all said, not be
38:42
fighting somebody like T.O. But we
38:44
need to see what he look
38:46
like after this Ryan Garcia fight.
38:48
physically and mentally. But shout out
38:50
to him, because if he goes
38:53
and makes this, he's coming off
38:55
a loss and coming back, taking
38:57
the hell of a fight in
38:59
the name like T.O. The thing
39:01
that concerns me about T.O., he
39:04
fights up to his competition. So
39:06
I don't want him going in
39:08
there, like thinking that he's going
39:10
to beat Devin because he'll mess
39:12
around and get beat. As long
39:15
as Tio is... Focus is going
39:17
to be a really, really decent
39:19
fight and I'm excited to see
39:21
it. Even though we cannot please
39:23
some of these boxing fans because
39:26
of course everybody's already shitting on
39:28
a fight. It's a great fight.
39:30
It's not a good fight. This
39:32
is a fight that everybody wanted
39:34
to see. You know, it took
39:37
a while for us to get
39:39
it. But we're getting it. But
39:41
of course, boxing is a what
39:43
have you done for me lately
39:45
sports. So I can understand why
39:48
people... have concerns and the attitude.
39:50
So I'm like, I'm not mad
39:52
at them about it, but we
39:54
should be grateful. There are fights
39:56
that all of us want to
39:59
see that need to be getting
40:01
made. So hopefully this is the
40:03
step in the right direction. Shout
40:05
out to Turkey, Alashik, he's saving
40:07
boxing. Again, I hope everybody gets
40:09
behind Turkey because he's the only
40:12
one that's putting these fight together
40:14
where these guys that aren't never
40:16
really challenged, they're being challenged. So
40:18
shout out to Turkey, shout out
40:20
to Devin, shout out to Tio,
40:23
because this is a big thing,
40:25
especially for me, I'm excited. But
40:27
yeah, shout out to the bowling
40:29
voice, guess with unknown hear status.
40:31
I hope you all have a
40:34
great day. You too, you too.
40:36
Thanks for calling in. But shout
40:38
out to you, Neskis, I'm sorry
40:40
about your thought. I meant to
40:42
say that first, but I'm glad
40:45
to see all y'all is good.
40:47
So, have a good day. Thank
40:49
you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
40:51
you. Like I told my wife,
40:53
man, we got each other. It's
40:56
sound corny, but it's like I
40:58
told her, we got each other.
41:00
We could get whatever we lost
41:02
back. And I'm sure, you know,
41:04
my mom had went through a
41:07
fire a long time ago and
41:09
they made out okay, you know
41:11
what I'm saying? Insurance usually takes
41:13
care of you, regardless of fault,
41:15
you know, I mean, obviously my
41:18
mom's fire wasn't her fault. Living
41:20
in the inner city one house
41:22
burn they all burn you feel
41:24
me so the next door neighbors
41:26
house went up in flames and
41:29
in the fire department and take
41:31
care of that one in time
41:33
that shit collapsed onto my mom's
41:35
house so She was taking care
41:37
so I'm hoping that my insurance
41:40
you know, I called my dad
41:42
obviously for advice and he's like,
41:44
you know, the insurance should take
41:46
care of it and it's just
41:48
a long process and The smoke
41:51
bro, that shit don't, it's not,
41:53
it's not going away. Stinks in
41:55
this bitch. Our clothes stink, we
41:57
stink, shit stinks. But again, it's
41:59
like, if I would have not
42:02
done that, I would have been
42:04
going crazy. right now. I still
42:06
wake up at 4.30 in the
42:08
morning like I would have been
42:10
going crazy for all these hours
42:13
with nothing to do so I'd
42:15
rather inhale whatever smoke is still
42:17
laughing fucking get the show done.
42:19
Uh, let me here. Bro, this
42:21
whole fucking star is in the
42:24
building. This whole wall caught fire,
42:26
uh, I took in the studio.
42:28
Yeah, I took tips recommendation and
42:30
went to go see the movie.
42:32
and left the candle on. Oh
42:34
my lord man. Yeah, I would
42:37
have bought him back. Bro I
42:39
didn't know, I didn't know, I
42:41
didn't even know, like I'm still
42:43
asking my wife because I feel
42:45
like she says no, she says
42:48
that was the day before, you
42:50
know I smoke, so it could
42:52
have been the day before, but
42:54
the way I remember it in
42:56
my mom was like, yesterday, she's
42:59
like, yo, do you have candles?
43:01
And that triggered the memory to
43:03
light one, because she prefers the
43:05
house to smell better than my
43:07
weed, right? So I feel like
43:10
I lit it, and I was
43:12
the only candle I fucking lit.
43:14
So seven hours later, you're telling
43:16
me that candle still burning, I'm
43:18
in the house, seven hours late,
43:21
I'm still in the house, six
43:23
a.m. to one p.m. I'm still
43:25
here, I just left at like
43:27
105. So I don't know how
43:29
to fuck that, I mean listen,
43:32
and you know they come into
43:34
thing, plus I had the burner,
43:36
bro, it was like a movie,
43:38
like the burner must have exploded,
43:40
and then the whole fucking wall
43:43
caught on fire, and I had
43:45
extra candles, so I guess that
43:47
wax spread it, and I had
43:49
the little bottle of the scent,
43:51
maybe that's flammable. I don't fucking
43:54
know, the shit went up in
43:56
flames, it's crazy. I was driving
43:58
back, right? I busted corner and
44:00
shit. And I could see my
44:02
neighbor with the phone in their
44:05
hand and going crazy, but she...
44:07
like a Ukrainian or something like
44:09
that, like definitely something like that.
44:11
So I don't know what she's
44:13
saying, plus I'm in my car.
44:16
I just see her like panicking
44:18
and I see another neighbor running.
44:20
I'm like, what the fuck is
44:22
going on? And I hear all
44:24
the alarms, you know, I hear
44:27
all the alarms. Then my wife
44:29
panics. You know, I go full
44:31
blown superhero mode, run in the
44:33
house, let the dogs out. So
44:35
she don't see me for a
44:38
few minutes. So that's it. She
44:40
thought I passed out that quick.
44:42
She thought I mean, she thought
44:44
I passed out in the smoke
44:46
that quick. She ran it around
44:49
crying. I'm like, yeah, where you
44:51
at? I'm like, I'm right here,
44:53
but we got like seven smoke
44:55
detectors. You know, them shit don't
44:57
stop. You know, it's too much
44:59
smoke. So I had to, I'm
45:02
the only tall one. I had
45:04
to go around the house taking
45:06
all the smoke detectors off. Because
45:08
the neighbors was panicking. They was
45:10
going crazy. Somebody like checked the
45:13
gas and the woman going crazy.
45:15
I'm like, Lord, have mercy. So
45:17
I put the fire out myself.
45:19
I put the fire out myself.
45:21
Was it like a blast furnace?
45:24
Was it like just blowing? Like
45:26
what? Fire fire? Fire fire? It
45:28
caught onto this wall. Remember, I
45:30
got this wood shelf. So half
45:32
the shelf caught on fire. Then
45:35
the two by four in the
45:37
wall caught on fire. and everything
45:39
I had. But this was a
45:41
fire fire fire. This was a
45:43
fire fire fire. No, it was
45:46
a fire fire fire. Lucky my
45:48
new camera was right there. I
45:50
would have been crying. I would
45:52
have been crying. That shit was
45:54
right there. My camera, I bought
45:57
specifically for Border Wars. So yeah,
45:59
I put the fire out myself
46:01
and I called my dad and
46:03
he's like, you gotta report it
46:05
in order to go through the
46:08
insurance. So we're trying to call
46:10
a fire department. Not 911. And
46:12
bro, no fire department is answering.
46:14
We call like three fire departments
46:16
because we just wanted someone to
46:19
come to give us a report,
46:21
see what's going on and. clear
46:23
the house to stay and all
46:25
that other shit. Oh man, why
46:27
we had to go through 911?
46:30
Because none of these fire departments,
46:32
like you can't call a fire
46:34
department direct. So we call 911
46:36
and we explain to them we
46:38
don't need no fucking fire truck.
46:41
The fire is off. Because the
46:43
neighbors is already outside. We don't
46:45
want more neighbors. We don't want
46:47
to be that fucking family that's
46:49
causing a scene, right? Bro, why
46:52
they show up with three fire
46:54
trucks? Yeah, man. I'm like, bro,
46:56
we didn't need no fire trucks,
46:58
so we told him on the
47:00
phone these motherfuckers and three fire
47:03
trucks. They don't know what they're
47:05
walking into, man. No, I don't
47:07
believe that. I don't believe that.
47:09
I believe you had a fire
47:11
expert, bro, they, they, they looking
47:14
for a fire fire fire. No,
47:16
you're right. You were a fire
47:18
starter, you ain't a fire expert
47:20
expert. And y' right. They did
47:22
do things that I didn't expect
47:24
them to do, but I still
47:27
believe it's got something to do
47:29
with pay. I still believe that.
47:31
Like, bro, it was far too
47:33
many. Like, I feel like if
47:35
they take the call, you know,
47:38
it's good for the firehouse, because
47:40
we all know they're getting paid
47:42
regardless. But something is fishy. It
47:44
was far too many people. But
47:46
I had like seven people in
47:49
this room right here. Everybody got
47:51
axes and shit there. It's like,
47:53
bro, I put the fire out.
47:55
Like, what did, what, they full
47:57
blow mass? The fucking, y'all, it
48:00
was like, what's that movie, backdriver,
48:02
whatever the fuck is cool? Nigga
48:04
had his tank on the back,
48:06
I'm like, what is y'all doing?
48:08
Three trucks in the front of
48:11
the house? Nah, they was wilding,
48:13
but they was nice, y'o, shout
48:15
out to that man, he was
48:17
super, super duper duper nice. All
48:19
the sheet rock and shit that
48:22
was broke, they took it with
48:24
them, they was alright, but... Yeah,
48:26
it's still not cool. It's like
48:28
I told my wife, I would
48:30
have preferred the whole house to
48:33
go in flames. Because now you
48:35
get the fire. Yeah, because now
48:37
you got the fire without the
48:39
benefit, right? Because now I got
48:41
this fire and everything smells like
48:44
fire. We opened the cabinets, my
48:46
dude. Everything had smoke in it.
48:48
It's like your house is destroyed,
48:50
but you can't, they're not going
48:52
to give you enough money. to
48:55
rebuild it because it ain't burnt
48:57
down. So it's like you kind
48:59
of fought. You got to find
49:01
out how to get the smoke
49:03
out? Did you get on TikTok
49:06
and find it out? No, no,
49:08
no. We got to hire. We
49:10
got to hire a restoration company
49:12
too. Because you don't want to
49:14
have, yeah, there's no way around
49:17
that. There's no way around that.
49:19
You don't want to have mold
49:21
and uh. Yeah, it's just it
49:23
is what it is. The insurance
49:25
will pay, but what I'm saying
49:28
is like they ain't gonna, I
49:30
highly doubt they're gonna give me
49:32
a new wardrobe. All my shit's
49:34
fucking smell like fire. Because it's-
49:36
You gotta go to the clean
49:39
air, bro. It's central air, bro.
49:41
So the fire was here, so
49:43
it took it through the duct.
49:45
That's what I'm saying. I would
49:47
have preferred. The motherfucker that just
49:49
go up in flames, because at
49:52
least you get your money, the
49:54
land is still yours, and you
49:56
decide, we're gonna rebuild. But in
49:58
this position, you're like, all they're
50:00
gonna do is fix the damage,
50:03
but I'm pretty sure we stuck
50:05
with the smoke. Like, obviously they'll
50:07
pay for restoration, but like, they're
50:09
not gonna give us new clothes,
50:11
you know what I'm saying? gets
50:14
out like you know what i'm
50:16
saying it traveled through the ducks
50:18
so it's pretty fucked up yeah
50:20
blessing is your house ain't blow
50:22
up blow up the neighbor I
50:25
would say, you know, I'm saying,
50:27
so I think that's what she
50:29
was worried about. She's like, I'm
50:31
hearing the alarm for 30 minutes.
50:33
I'm like, damn. Shout out to
50:36
the alarms, I would have figured
50:38
he melted after 30 minutes of
50:40
ringing and shit. Finally, the Haines
50:42
listen to two-toned superstar, I was
50:44
calling for this fight for Devin
50:47
Hainey to save the black community
50:49
from the racial slur man, T.O.
50:51
female. I believe if Devin could
50:53
beat T.O., all this slander from
50:55
Devin is gone. But is he
50:58
still in this fight from Ryan
51:00
Garcia? Is this a race to
51:02
Tio? Ayo. It's so funny that
51:04
this is actually the perfect fight.
51:06
Like, yeah, Devin is vulnerable. So
51:09
Tio's jumping on him after he's
51:11
seen what he's seen. And Tio's
51:13
vulnerable. Devin's jumping on him after
51:15
he's seen where he's like, motherfuckers
51:17
didn't clagget beat Tio. Not beat
51:20
him, but not beat him, but
51:22
beat him up. You know, put
51:24
hands on him, punched him on
51:26
him. You know, made him look
51:28
bad and and clagget is not
51:31
a Devin. that isn't Devin. So
51:33
they both are in a very
51:35
good position where, you know, mentally
51:37
they're looking at their opponents and
51:39
they're like, this is the right
51:42
time. Right. This is, this is,
51:44
this is, this is a perfect
51:46
fight. Both these guys are around
51:48
the same age or I don't
51:50
know, Tia may be a little
51:53
bit older than Devin. There's rivalry
51:55
here and Devin's a bad a
51:57
bad mug jug for directly going
51:59
into a T.O. fight after the,
52:01
uh, what happened with
52:04
Ryan Garcia? Um, that
52:06
means the man is
52:08
not get, he's not
52:10
scared again, hit again,
52:12
he's fighting another puncher.
52:15
A.O. But after the,
52:17
the Regis fight, who
52:19
would have picked Devin
52:21
over T. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
52:23
You said that. Yeah.
52:25
Absolutely. Bro. I hate to
52:27
bring it up. But. The
52:30
Jake Paul on the card, they
52:32
really put a shoe shoe on
52:34
a YouTube channel and
52:36
they gonna have this dude,
52:39
Raj Goyat, he gets
52:41
TV time? Yeah, and they
52:43
put a shoe shoe on
52:45
the limb? They put them
52:47
on the pre-limbs with Stephen
52:49
Fulton, man. And you know,
52:51
on the fucking line. I
52:53
mean, look, I'm still happy
52:56
and thankful to Jake as
52:58
a, like if I'm Shu
53:00
Shu, I'm thankful. I'm still
53:02
getting the media. I'm still
53:04
in the mix. But how the
53:06
fuck does this dude, Naraz,
53:09
get, how he get the TV
53:11
time? How, I don't even,
53:13
like, who is he, like, who is
53:15
he? I
53:18
don't know. Why is the hell is...
53:20
I don't know who he is, but
53:22
shoot you, need to be on Netflix,
53:24
man. Need to be on Netflix.
53:26
Did you guys see the, the,
53:29
any of the episodes on Netflix?
53:31
Uh, no, I've been watching the YouTube,
53:33
the MVP, YouTubes. I didn't
53:35
see the face-off with Cam,
53:38
yet, you seen that? Yeah,
53:40
seeing that one out, that was
53:42
a good face-off. Oh, wow, I gotta
53:44
watch it. It seemed like, I mean,
53:46
this all could be W-W-E, and I
53:49
say that because Jake's brother literally is
53:51
in W-W-E, and he's very nice at
53:53
it. So I don't know if Mike
53:56
Tyson's serious, Mike Tyson, seems like he's
54:00
underestimating. Jake's
54:03
not really gonna
54:06
go for it.
54:08
But right. I
54:11
think he's gonna
54:13
go for the
54:16
knockout. Like he's
54:18
talking about when
54:21
I knock out
54:24
Mike Tyson, I'll
54:26
be the face
54:29
of boxing. Right.
54:31
And he ain't
54:34
lying, bro. This
54:36
fight is so
54:39
big, it's ridiculous,
54:41
man. Nasty work
54:44
that Jake was
54:46
able to. Oh
54:50
my god, you know, they said
54:52
it best on that episode, bro,
54:55
you got, and this, that's exactly
54:57
what's happening. You got all the
55:00
old heads, my age and older,
55:02
uh, nostalgic over Tyson, and then
55:04
you got these teeny boppers, you
55:07
know, like, yo, someone literally in
55:09
Brooklyn told Tyson to his face,
55:12
Jake beaten him. And he was
55:14
an African-American kid, but he was
55:16
a kid. Yeah, he
55:19
wrote them with Jake. He
55:21
wrote them with Jake. But
55:23
he was a young teenager.
55:25
Don't get me wrong. He
55:27
was a young teenager. He
55:29
was taller than fucking Tyson.
55:31
But he he picking Jake.
55:33
I'm telling you I man,
55:35
this this this fight is
55:37
crazy. I do hope he
55:39
sleep him. He's talking like
55:41
he want to go for
55:44
the knockout. He talked about
55:46
knocking him out. Be in
55:48
the face of boxing. He
55:50
talked him out, um, fighting,
55:52
can't too. And, um, giving
55:54
him a lot of love.
55:56
Shout out the Mac truck.
55:58
Hopefully, uh, he signs him.
56:00
All his love he giving
56:02
him. Yeah, and Mac truck
56:04
is, is in camp. This
56:06
is definitely, because young, this
56:08
young dude generation right now,
56:10
like they don't respect all
56:12
heads like at all. I
56:14
just found out that the
56:16
younger chicks don't like bald
56:19
men after watching the esteemed
56:21
pop the balloon show. I
56:23
don't know if you were
56:25
John have seen it. Chicks
56:27
don't like bald niggas. I
56:29
don't know when that stopped,
56:31
but hey. What the fuck?
56:33
Yeah, they not rocking with,
56:35
like, Tyson. The old niggles,
56:37
yeah, they not rocking with
56:39
y'all, man. They, they show
56:41
a tight snow respecting these
56:43
streets. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah,
56:45
to your point, to what,
56:47
I just don't want to
56:49
see a circus, man, on
56:51
Friday. And I'm sure
56:53
I speak for all the nostalgic
56:56
fans out there man I get
56:58
what you guys are saying about
57:00
Jake Paul winning in the business
57:02
of boxing man, but the last
57:04
The last image that I want
57:06
to see or the last image
57:08
that I don't know the last
57:11
image that I don't know that's
57:13
you be in the flow that's
57:15
you that's you be in the
57:17
canvas. That's you be in nostalgia
57:19
because how many times have we
57:21
seen Roy on the floor and
57:23
we still love him and we
57:26
still love him different man's Tyson
57:28
is an icon. It's just hard
57:30
for me. I just, listen, like
57:32
I said, my last impression, my
57:34
last image of Tyson, I don't
57:36
want to see him face first
57:38
on the canvas, getting knocked out
57:41
by Jake Paul, a YouTube return
57:43
boxer. That's funny. It's funny, it's
57:45
funny, it's funny, you say he's
57:47
an icon, right? On the show,
57:49
I didn't know if Jake was
57:51
being serious or was he taking
57:53
a shot at Floyd, who obviously,
57:56
remember there's beef, got your hat,
57:58
Floyd, Floyd never wanted to fight
58:00
his brother, Is this a shot
58:02
when he says, and I'm paraphrasing,
58:04
I think he says something like,
58:06
I can't. I believe I'm fighting
58:08
one of the two biggest fighters
58:11
in the world. There's Muhammad Ali
58:13
and Mike Tyson. Are those the
58:15
two biggest names or is Jake
58:17
Trollen and trying to take shots
58:19
at T-B-E, the best ever? Bro,
58:21
he's 100% right. We know Ali
58:23
is the universal, like a nigger
58:26
can't know shit about boxing. He'll
58:28
do say he ain't better than
58:30
Ali. Like I'll leave just a
58:32
universal name of boxing. He is
58:34
boxing like icon name for show
58:36
icon person and Tyson's right up
58:38
there like Floyd Floyd is up
58:41
there he would be like one
58:43
of the most popular botches ever
58:45
but Floyd was polarized if you
58:47
love Floyd you hate Floyd. Like
58:52
Floyd hasn't entered his Mike
58:54
Tyson era where everybody likes
58:56
Floyd Tyson even though Tyson
58:58
done what he got accused
59:00
of raping a woman he
59:03
didn't He didn't did vile
59:05
things in his life vile
59:07
things but America loves the
59:09
comeback story in the world
59:11
and they once Mike Tyson
59:13
did that play and he
59:16
showed how hard his life
59:18
was he then he became
59:20
a lovable figure Floyd I
59:22
don't know if Floyd has
59:24
the personality or swag to
59:26
get into that levelable figure
59:28
bag, but yeah, Jake Paul
59:31
is fighting an icon legend,
59:33
especially in the black community,
59:35
the boxer community, that's what
59:37
I'm saying, bro. Mike Tyson
59:39
is knocked out by Jake
59:41
Paul, Jake Paul standing over
59:43
him like Muhammad Ali. It's
59:46
gonna be a sad day
59:48
in a black America. How
59:51
you feel you think you think
59:54
Ali and and Tyson are the
59:56
two biggest and he's not trolling,
59:59
John? Yeah, I agree. I agree
1:00:01
with tone. I mean, you know,
1:00:03
these guys are universally known. I
1:00:06
mean, Floyd is, Floyd is gonna
1:00:08
go down as one of those
1:00:10
guys eventually, but I think that
1:00:13
more people are gonna appreciate Floyd
1:00:15
from an icon perspective when he's
1:00:18
totally gone from the game. You
1:00:20
know what I mean? Like he's
1:00:22
still actively involved in the game
1:00:25
and to tone's point, there are
1:00:27
some people that love him and
1:00:29
there's still a lot of people
1:00:32
that hate on him. So as
1:00:34
far as icons, icons, I would
1:00:37
say Ali and Tyson. Right now,
1:00:39
I don't think he was trolling.
1:00:41
I think that's what he truly
1:00:44
believes. Well, he didn't use the
1:00:46
word icon, you did, that just
1:00:48
triggered the memory. He said, I'm
1:00:51
fighting one of the big, one
1:00:53
of the two biggest boxes boxes
1:00:56
in the world. Are those the
1:00:58
two biggest in the world or
1:01:00
is he trolling Floyd by not
1:01:03
mentioning Floyd as one of the
1:01:05
two biggest fighters in the world
1:01:08
ever? I think I think they're
1:01:10
two of the biggest right now.
1:01:12
Yeah, that is my opinion. Even
1:01:15
though if Floyd Money made whether
1:01:17
it was in this event, it'd
1:01:19
be just as big. Maybe bigger
1:01:22
because people would give Floyd a
1:01:24
legitimate shot to beat and Jake
1:01:27
well Floyd will probably be the
1:01:29
favorite in this fight Is Tyson
1:01:31
a favorite? What's the bedline? I
1:01:34
got a check What's the bedline
1:01:36
on this or what's the prop
1:01:38
bets on this? Can they even
1:01:41
fight? I mean Floyd is much
1:01:43
smaller than Jake man Jake's a
1:01:46
big dude man. I mean he
1:01:48
fought he fought Logan he fought
1:01:50
Logan, but it was an exhibition
1:01:55
Yeah, it was it
1:01:57
was an exhibition. But
1:02:00
yeah, man, this is like,
1:02:02
if y'all are not following
1:02:04
the promo, and if you're
1:02:06
a boxer, and you're not
1:02:08
promo, and you're fight like
1:02:10
this, even on a smaller
1:02:12
level, that's why you are
1:02:14
b-sided for life. That's why
1:02:17
you're a b-side, because Jake
1:02:19
is showing you how to
1:02:21
promote something. Every single day
1:02:23
there's a countdown to the
1:02:25
fight. But y'all, y'all wanna
1:02:27
be too pretty, y'all wanna
1:02:29
wear y'all chrome hearts, y'all
1:02:31
wanna wear y'all looey, y'all
1:02:33
Gucci and be fucking mysterious.
1:02:35
Why are you being mysterious?
1:02:37
You're a professional athlete. Like
1:02:39
step it up, bro. Jake
1:02:41
is promoting this shit, like
1:02:43
he's just a brilliant mind,
1:02:45
man. You gotta give him
1:02:47
props. I mean, look at
1:02:49
what they're doing, man. Did
1:02:52
any of us think that
1:02:54
we'd ever see a fight
1:02:56
of this magnitude on Netflix?
1:02:58
That shit crazy, no. And
1:03:00
I'm free. I just like,
1:03:02
globally too, bro. No, no,
1:03:04
I'm not sneak this in
1:03:06
tank. Tank don't have to
1:03:08
promote like that. Tank promotes
1:03:10
with knockouts. So like, like,
1:03:12
tanks are knockout artists. I'm
1:03:14
talking about, I mean, Terrence
1:03:16
Crawford's a knockout artist, but
1:03:18
Terrence Crawford, he doesn't make,
1:03:20
like, the average fan doesn't
1:03:22
want to do anything Terrence
1:03:25
does outside the ring at
1:03:27
all. Maybe be faithful to
1:03:29
your wife. That's cool, you
1:03:31
know what I'm saying? Be
1:03:33
faithful, but nothing else, like
1:03:35
cool. Like, Tank, wear the
1:03:37
fly gear, the clothes, the
1:03:39
tattoos. He gonna do a
1:03:41
couple tweet and deletes. But
1:03:44
Jake on this level bro,
1:03:46
they got the damn blow-up
1:03:49
dolls outside they bro this
1:03:51
shit is crazy bro. That
1:03:53
shit is crazy when I
1:03:55
saw that I love the
1:03:57
big blow-up doors that that
1:03:59
that was dope. I mean
1:04:01
the promoting is next level
1:04:03
though man um look at
1:04:05
it every day is a
1:04:07
countdown they know what they're
1:04:09
doing for sure I love
1:04:11
how they promoted Amanda and
1:04:13
Katie so much on that
1:04:15
episode it was crazy like
1:04:17
they didn't talk about anybody
1:04:19
except them it was main
1:04:21
event co-main event that's all
1:04:23
they got spoken of it
1:04:25
was wild They
1:04:28
definitely got me height for
1:04:30
that fight That's definitely the
1:04:32
fight that I'm looking forward
1:04:34
to the most the co-meaning
1:04:36
event the rematch That's going
1:04:38
to take both of them
1:04:40
women to such a high
1:04:42
level That they're about to
1:04:44
be on this Netflix event
1:04:46
like This is fire for
1:04:48
Amanda and Katie and especially
1:04:51
this fight of this magnitude
1:04:53
I definitely M hype for
1:04:55
Barrios Ramos. Yeah Yeah, definitely
1:04:57
want to see what my
1:04:59
man Mario Barios is looking
1:05:01
like out here in these
1:05:03
streets. But yeah, man, Jake
1:05:05
will be officially the cash
1:05:07
cow. All the heavy weights
1:05:09
are going to try to
1:05:11
get that fight with him
1:05:13
now. Every single heavy weight.
1:05:15
Pekoli, Andy Ruiz, they're going
1:05:17
to act like they defended
1:05:19
Mike Tyson, but we know
1:05:21
you niggos want to pay
1:05:23
that, bro. And it's cool.
1:05:25
But don't act like you
1:05:27
defend in Tyson, bro. Anybody
1:05:29
want to take a stab
1:05:31
at how much you think
1:05:33
Jake clears in this fight?
1:05:35
I mean, didn't they say
1:05:38
in 40? Is that what
1:05:40
they said? I thought I
1:05:42
said 40, Mike and 20,
1:05:44
Keedy getting 6.8, Amanda and
1:05:46
6? Yeah, the females I
1:05:48
heard of them. Well Amanda
1:05:50
said she getting more than
1:05:52
Katie, according to her, remember.
1:05:57
You got a chance that a
1:05:59
man who will make more men
1:06:01
And I mean that's Jake Paul's
1:06:03
girl. Yeah, but that don't guarantee
1:06:05
you making more. He's paying for
1:06:07
the remand so that you can
1:06:09
get back. If you was the
1:06:11
A side, you can guarantee you
1:06:13
get more, but he's gotta give
1:06:16
Katie money to come back to
1:06:18
fight Amanda because Katie moved on
1:06:20
and undisputed after that. I'm still
1:06:22
shocked we getting that remand to
1:06:24
be honest with you. Yeah, I
1:06:26
mean, shout out, shout out the
1:06:28
Jake, man, shout out the Jake.
1:06:30
The odds are Paul to win
1:06:32
minus 250 and Mike Tyson plus
1:06:34
190 to old man. It's hard
1:06:36
to think man that a 58
1:06:38
year old dude is gonna beat
1:06:40
this young guy man. Bro you
1:06:42
had to watch the episode I
1:06:44
didn't even watch him. I gotta
1:06:46
check it out. But but come
1:06:49
on they got my man taking
1:06:51
medication, taking medication live and he
1:06:53
sound old. He's sound, oh, he's
1:06:55
sound, he's like, he's sound like
1:06:57
he's 58, bro. Like, like, like,
1:06:59
listen, if it wasn't because of
1:07:01
that episode, that whole shit that
1:07:03
happened in the airport, would he
1:07:05
almost catch a heart attack or
1:07:07
also some shit? Mm-hmm. I was
1:07:09
more excited about that fight before
1:07:11
that. After that happened, I was
1:07:13
done with it. Yeah, because that's
1:07:15
when it hit you. That's when
1:07:17
it hit you, that this man
1:07:19
could have arthritis, he could have
1:07:22
high blood pressure, you know, it
1:07:24
hit you right there, like bro,
1:07:26
he's not the 58-year-old we thought
1:07:28
he could be. He's the 58-year-old
1:07:30
that let go of boxing. So
1:07:32
he's not in shape like that,
1:07:34
like y'all think, but people seem
1:07:36
to think his body gonna snap
1:07:38
back, bro, if you watch that,
1:07:40
you can even watch him training,
1:07:42
watch him training, bro. 30 seconds.
1:07:44
I don't even know how y'all
1:07:46
think that's going to work for
1:07:48
real. I don't who's a decent
1:07:50
fury brother the Who's who's the
1:07:52
one that Jake be or lost
1:07:55
to Tommy Tommy fury right so
1:07:57
when people Would people pick Tyson
1:07:59
over Tommy Fury if this was
1:08:01
the fight? Would people pick Tyson
1:08:03
over Tommy Fury? I think so
1:08:05
because he got dropped by Jake.
1:08:07
Even though Jake lost that fight,
1:08:09
he still dropped him. Jake's power
1:08:11
is legit and that's what these
1:08:13
fuckers need to wake up. When
1:08:15
he cracked that old man, people
1:08:17
gonna be like, oh, that's fucked
1:08:19
up, yo. All right, you got
1:08:21
your ass in it, but let
1:08:23
me play this because uh. Obviously
1:08:25
you know I always promoted Mac
1:08:28
Truck, I called one of his
1:08:30
live fights and I expected him
1:08:32
to be further along in his
1:08:34
career. So I am happy he's
1:08:36
in camp with Jake. He was
1:08:38
in camp with Roy, mimicking Tyson
1:08:40
for the Roy fight. Now he's
1:08:42
in camp with Jake, mimicking Tyson
1:08:44
for the Jake fight. And I
1:08:46
hope MVP songs him. He needs
1:08:48
that. Don't get me wrong. He
1:08:50
might have a contract with overtime,
1:08:52
but hopefully overtime. Let's him go
1:08:54
if Jake wants him. This
1:08:57
guy shout out the Mac
1:08:59
truck. He oh is sponsoring
1:09:01
exactly like Tyson, but even
1:09:04
faster and he's heavier. It's
1:09:06
been the let's let's talk
1:09:08
right there. We're gonna get
1:09:10
back to that, but um
1:09:12
Can that particular spawn partner
1:09:14
in your minds mimic Mike
1:09:16
Tyson? Can he be faster?
1:09:19
And quote on quote? You
1:09:21
know, I guess exactly like
1:09:23
Mike. Absolutely not. Everybody tries
1:09:25
to bring people in camp
1:09:27
to like, oh, this is
1:09:29
just like Brian Garcia, oh,
1:09:31
this is just like Devin,
1:09:34
this just like Tank. And
1:09:36
when you get in there,
1:09:38
you'd be like, nah, this
1:09:40
ain't like them at all.
1:09:42
Like. I don't see that
1:09:44
shit. Yeah. He said this
1:09:46
ain't like the metal. This
1:09:49
made the same. This is
1:09:51
different. coming fast in this
1:09:53
motherfucker. Yeah, so. Holy shit.
1:09:55
I was either one of
1:09:57
them dudes I like, man,
1:09:59
but that's just me. Hey,
1:10:01
yo, Goyette. I thought Goyette
1:10:04
was like a fucking influencer.
1:10:06
Then dude, Niraj, he beat
1:10:08
CanX, the former WBA chair.
1:10:10
I had no clue. I
1:10:12
swore he was an influencer.
1:10:14
Ain't that the dude that
1:10:16
always beefing with Jake on
1:10:19
social media. They'd be looking
1:10:21
so staged. He's like in
1:10:23
the end on Middle Eastern,
1:10:25
the dude, the Raj, Nie
1:10:27
Roger, I'm probably, you know,
1:10:29
I'm butchering it, you know,
1:10:32
I'm butchering it, but whatever's,
1:10:34
let's get back to the
1:10:36
audio. Oh, I was just
1:10:38
saying, you know, shout out
1:10:40
to him, I had no
1:10:42
clue that he actually beat
1:10:44
a former world champ, like
1:10:47
I thought he was an
1:10:49
influencer. The best thing for
1:10:51
this camp, like I told
1:10:53
him I'm paying him double
1:10:55
for this. See
1:10:57
that? We gotta stop that
1:11:00
right there. He paying them
1:11:02
double. Now I'm not saying
1:11:04
we don't see this. We've
1:11:07
seen this. We know Jared
1:11:09
Anderson got extra money for
1:11:11
doing what he did in
1:11:13
the fury spawn. But this
1:11:16
is what Jake brings, man.
1:11:18
Economics. He employs people. Steve
1:11:20
Cunningham was a small partner.
1:11:23
Denny, I think he got
1:11:25
him a fight. You know
1:11:27
what I'm saying? Hopefully again,
1:11:29
this union with him and
1:11:32
Matt can be long term
1:11:34
and fruitful. Because we need
1:11:36
Matt Truck on the scene,
1:11:39
man. Because he's giving me
1:11:41
literally the exact look of
1:11:43
Mike Tyson So it's been
1:11:45
so so so so so
1:11:48
helpful. It's amazing and he's
1:11:50
all deserving of extra pay
1:11:52
like I wouldn't be surprised
1:11:55
if I can hit Tyson
1:11:57
with these exact shots I
1:11:59
know he's open for because
1:12:01
of this guy giving me
1:12:04
literally the saying exact look
1:12:06
very very early on hopefully
1:12:08
in the fight because it
1:12:11
usually takes that first round
1:12:13
or two to like feel
1:12:15
someone out but I'm telling
1:12:18
you this is basically
1:12:20
a faster that's far
1:12:23
heavier Mike Tyson
1:12:25
so man we have this
1:12:28
guy Getting them them
1:12:30
them sparring dollars. We
1:12:32
got treason Toledo. What
1:12:34
up? We also have a poll.
1:12:36
I'm asking is Jake Paul
1:12:39
telling the truth is Mohammed
1:12:41
Ali and Mike Tyson the
1:12:44
two biggest fighters ever? Multiple
1:12:46
choice answers. You got yes,
1:12:48
no, Mayweather is for sure
1:12:51
one of the two which
1:12:53
is crazy at only 16%
1:12:55
you dudes are disrespectful.
1:12:58
Yeah, I can't believe I don't got him
1:13:00
as one of the two trees before I
1:13:03
written a bell man Who's your two
1:13:05
biggest fighters ever man? I? I need
1:13:07
that question answer by everybody to
1:13:09
call and moving forward. Who's your
1:13:11
two biggest fight as ever? I mean,
1:13:13
I'm not going cap Do Floyd Floyd
1:13:16
may weather ain't got no movie. Shout
1:13:18
out to Tyson Ali, but that's
1:13:20
neither here nor there Shout
1:13:22
out Will Smith, yeah. Shout
1:13:24
out Michael J. White. But
1:13:26
you're saying there's neither here
1:13:28
nor there, which means what,
1:13:30
that, that, that, that you
1:13:32
don't care, that you don't
1:13:34
care, they got a movie,
1:13:36
or are you saying that's
1:13:38
your answer? Because they got
1:13:40
a movie, they're obviously bigger
1:13:43
than. That ain't, that ain't
1:13:45
because, that's not the answer,
1:13:47
but come on. Unless we got
1:13:49
a serial. Syria, does Floyd
1:13:51
May weather got a serial? Does he
1:13:53
got a video game? Was he
1:13:56
ever on a video? My, I'm
1:13:58
excited and Muhammad Ali. was on
1:14:00
fight night when you did it
1:14:02
on the fight night they was
1:14:04
when you they were opening characters
1:14:06
on the song it was Muhammad
1:14:08
Ali and Mike Tyson with the
1:14:10
opening characters when you was in
1:14:13
the train they they fight each
1:14:15
other like they show them fighting
1:14:17
oh I'm just saying shout out
1:14:19
to Floyd I mean we fuck
1:14:21
come on gang like don't like
1:14:23
come on man that's why you're
1:14:25
doing this man demand got to
1:14:27
ask the question we don't know
1:14:29
if Jake's trolling no I mean
1:14:31
it ain't really throw I mean
1:14:33
he got I hate the fact
1:14:35
that he gets to say it.
1:14:37
Like shit, it's out of his
1:14:39
despicable, but shit. Is he not
1:14:41
wrong? Shout out to him. But,
1:14:43
uh, I want to talk about
1:14:45
this Devin, Haney, and Tio, man.
1:14:47
Fugge, that, that, that, Iceman, Jake
1:14:50
Porsche, that circus shit. We got,
1:14:52
we, that's serious. We just see
1:14:54
them on Friday. I feel like
1:14:56
it's some funky shit going on.
1:14:58
I find it I find a
1:15:00
mighty ironic that uh that T.
1:15:02
A female name is like out
1:15:04
in the streets now after Keeshan
1:15:06
just did what he did. You
1:15:08
feel me? See I think that
1:15:10
the place for top rank eventually
1:15:12
while y'all got like I think
1:15:14
that uh my man Keeshan Davis
1:15:16
gonna beat up on Baranchek. They
1:15:18
gonna find the way to get
1:15:20
Loman there. They gonna throw Loman
1:15:22
there with Keeshan Davis and then
1:15:25
he gonna here to see a
1:15:27
female because I think it's going
1:15:29
to go on some aio I
1:15:31
hear you hollin' at ungang unk
1:15:33
being but in case you couldn't
1:15:35
catch it but uh I hear
1:15:37
you hollin' at unk man if
1:15:39
you can move up for him
1:15:41
I want to move up for
1:15:43
you and I feel like they've
1:15:45
been setting that shit in motion
1:15:47
remember that little enter that little
1:15:49
interaction that they had at that
1:15:51
press conference you feel me with
1:15:53
what keeps on Davis and what
1:15:55
what he'll say don't do it
1:15:57
Don't test, or just don't bite
1:15:59
the bullet. I'm just saying, I
1:16:02
think that'll be the play, man.
1:16:04
I think that's the play. I
1:16:06
think, because Lo Matenko up out
1:16:08
of here anyway, you feel me?
1:16:10
I think they're gonna do it
1:16:12
like a Lo Matenko comeback. and
1:16:14
get the, get the, try to
1:16:16
get it, get it back for
1:16:18
Baranchak, his Olympian brother, you feel
1:16:20
me after Keeson Davis, do what
1:16:22
he do to him, and then
1:16:24
Keeson Davis put hands and feet
1:16:26
on Loma Tanko, or retire his
1:16:28
ass, and then you go get
1:16:30
Loma for Bud. But you know,
1:16:32
with this, uh, with, and with
1:16:34
Devon Haney, man, where the fuck
1:16:36
you act, gang? Like I say,
1:16:39
I just find it mighty ironic
1:16:41
how these guys' names pop up
1:16:43
in the news lines after he's
1:16:45
shan done when he doesn't done.
1:16:47
You know. And they both off
1:16:49
bad-ass performances, bro, on some real
1:16:51
shit, like if anybody's trying to
1:16:53
make some, like you guys don't
1:16:55
look like, what the fuck? Like
1:16:57
you, T'o, how you look against
1:16:59
Steve Haney getting this shit rocked
1:17:01
in there with a guy who
1:17:03
I said, don't do it, Deb!
1:17:05
Don't get in the ring with
1:17:07
that motherfucker gang don't give him
1:17:09
the opportunity don't become a prop
1:17:11
in the Ryan Garcia movie and
1:17:13
what Joe ass go out there
1:17:16
and do but hey that's neither
1:17:18
here nor there so what I
1:17:20
want to see both of y'all
1:17:22
fight when both of y'all just
1:17:24
look like shit but shout out
1:17:26
TV and shout out. Oh yeah
1:17:28
you yell so much who don't
1:17:30
you want to see fight and
1:17:32
who look like shit? Kevin and
1:17:34
Hey, you can see a female
1:17:36
both just look like shit in
1:17:38
their last two perform in their
1:17:40
last fights each. They look like
1:17:42
shit gang. I don't, uh, so
1:17:44
you don't want to see them
1:17:46
fight each other. This is what
1:17:48
you're saying. I just want to
1:17:51
be clear. Not, not, not at
1:17:53
this moment. It's a little, it's
1:17:55
a little, it's a little thing
1:17:57
like to call tiny. That's the
1:17:59
bell. All right. I just wanted
1:18:01
to make sure that's what I
1:18:03
heard. That's what I heard. You
1:18:05
sound crazy. You sound crazy. My
1:18:07
man said they both look bad
1:18:09
so they deserve tune-ups to look
1:18:11
better so that we can get
1:18:13
fight? Yeah. Like, what the fuck
1:18:15
does that even mean? What's up?
1:18:17
Marco Bernos Diaz. Stop hearing. It's
1:18:19
conditioning tone. We've been beating so
1:18:21
bad to believe that we're not
1:18:23
deserving of the big fight that
1:18:25
you got guys like this. They're
1:18:28
breeding us to believe we don't
1:18:30
get the big fight. That we
1:18:32
have to marinate. That we have
1:18:34
to marinate. Like it's crazy, bro.
1:18:36
We even used the promoters talking
1:18:38
fucking phrases It's like no man.
1:18:40
We got to stop this got
1:18:42
to stop How likely is it
1:18:44
that they're gonna fight each other?
1:18:46
Is that a source you got
1:18:48
or this is? This is this
1:18:50
is force Forbes Forbes Oh So
1:18:52
seems likely but Forbes is also
1:18:54
saying they were told by their
1:18:56
sources and there is no date
1:18:58
no venue. It's just a fight
1:19:00
that may be happening in 2025.
1:19:02
But Marco, as the guy that
1:19:05
I said, I will not call
1:19:07
a historian, I'm gonna still ask
1:19:09
you this question. You gotta be
1:19:11
rude. What do you mean? I
1:19:13
said I won't call you a
1:19:15
historian, but I'm gonna still ask
1:19:17
you this question because you're older,
1:19:19
so you have an opinion on
1:19:21
this. Is Jay Paul telling the
1:19:23
truth? Is Jay? Paul telling the
1:19:25
truth. Is Mohammed Ali and Mike
1:19:27
Tyson the two biggest fighters ever?
1:19:29
Or is he taking shots at
1:19:31
TBE, got your hat, and he
1:19:33
don't want to tell the world
1:19:35
that Floyd is one of the
1:19:37
biggest ever? One of the two.
1:19:39
It's only two. You can only
1:19:42
pick two. Okay. Well, first off,
1:19:44
I am historian. Especially compared to
1:19:46
your fucking ass. You don't know
1:19:48
shit past the last five years,
1:19:50
but let's move past that. Yes.
1:19:52
Yes. Muhammad Ali is the biggest
1:19:54
most popular name in boxing history
1:19:56
to this day. Mike Tyson is
1:19:58
also the biggest. Now Floyd is
1:20:00
third and I think Floyd's a
1:20:02
close third. But those guys are
1:20:04
a different stratosphere. So I do.
1:20:06
I don't think he's taken a
1:20:08
shot. I think it's just a
1:20:10
fact. Floyd made more money. You
1:20:12
know what I'm saying? But in
1:20:14
terms of popularity? No. I mean,
1:20:17
it's Mike and Ali. I mean,
1:20:19
you know, we lived, I lived
1:20:21
in the Mike, Mike era. And
1:20:23
that's, you were alive, but you
1:20:25
were probably a little young, but
1:20:27
you remember it enough, right? Especially
1:20:29
the 80s. Especially the 80s. He
1:20:31
was literally the most popular name
1:20:33
in the entire world. You know
1:20:35
what I'm saying? So yes, that's
1:20:37
a fact. That is a fact.
1:20:39
Can I argue, can I argue
1:20:41
George Foreman over Floyd? No. No,
1:20:43
what? What? Well, Foreman got very
1:20:45
big and just come back selling
1:20:47
the grill and all that, but
1:20:49
over Floyd, no. But you know
1:20:51
what, you know what, hold on
1:20:54
a second. Commercially because of his
1:20:56
grill he got very popular. Yeah
1:20:58
George Forming got a movie What
1:21:00
that movie it was a good
1:21:02
movie. No, what like a Christian?
1:21:04
It's like a no no no
1:21:06
the latest movie. What you talk
1:21:08
about? I went to the release
1:21:10
out here in Vegas. It was
1:21:12
fire the forming movie that that's
1:21:14
a Christian based movie You know,
1:21:16
that's a Christian based that was
1:21:18
good You know, that's a great
1:21:20
point though tone because That's
1:21:23
interesting. I don't know. I
1:21:25
don't know. Because I heard
1:21:27
the forming relationship. Like genuinely,
1:21:30
genuinely my dude, I've rock
1:21:32
with you. I've never met
1:21:34
someone like you that knows
1:21:37
how to hate. So you
1:21:39
are smooth with it. My
1:21:41
man said to to to
1:21:44
talk. Because look, yeah, I
1:21:46
think it was like. Oh
1:21:49
tone just accent no he know
1:21:51
exactly what he doing how the
1:21:53
fuck you gonna say four minutes
1:21:55
bigger than four y'all disrespectful all
1:21:58
each one of you motherfuckers on
1:22:00
this page y'all keep lowering Floyd
1:22:02
lower and lower first he's not
1:22:04
even top two now he's getting
1:22:06
bumped out the three spot by
1:22:08
foreman no he's not getting bumped
1:22:10
he's definitely no let me be
1:22:13
clear he's definitely no no let
1:22:15
me be clear he's definitely three
1:22:17
he's definitely three he's definitely three
1:22:19
but foreman at first one one
1:22:21
tone said it I was like
1:22:23
what but then I thought about
1:22:26
it I'm like okay he's not
1:22:28
bigger than than Floyd but but
1:22:30
performance in the conversation in the
1:22:32
top ten because of the grill
1:22:34
Because that grill made him so
1:22:36
fucking popular. But no, he's not
1:22:39
above Floyd. No. Yo, I'm not,
1:22:41
like, I get your argument, but
1:22:43
it just sounds funny, right, on
1:22:45
a boxing show. I know, it
1:22:47
does. A boxer is more popular
1:22:49
than one of the best boxes
1:22:52
ever because of a grill. That's
1:22:54
just, it just makes me laugh.
1:22:56
Is there anybody in the world
1:22:58
that didn't have one of those
1:23:00
grills? Exactly. I'm literally walking with
1:23:02
my wife daily walk, we had
1:23:05
like 150 days straight now, and
1:23:07
three days ago maybe. And she's
1:23:09
like, when we go to Florida,
1:23:11
I'm shipping shit over here. I
1:23:13
miss my woman grill. She missed
1:23:15
her foreman grill, bro. You ain't
1:23:18
lying. We used foreman girls. You
1:23:20
got people in the chat saying
1:23:22
Sugar Ray, either Leonard or Robinson
1:23:24
are bigger than Floyd. They're not.
1:23:26
Nah, y'all hate it, man. You
1:23:28
know, nobody says. I was thinking,
1:23:31
I was thinking like. Sugar Ray
1:23:33
Leonard is also up there. I
1:23:35
wouldn't put him on the floor,
1:23:37
but he's up there. Who talks
1:23:39
about sugar Ray? Listen, listen, listen,
1:23:41
listen. Exactly. When we talk about
1:23:44
the biggest fight of ever, we
1:23:46
gotta talk about who is relevant
1:23:48
and with standing the test of...
1:23:50
Time who do we continuously talk
1:23:52
about year after year? Yeah, Mike
1:23:54
is in that conversation I don't
1:23:57
know about Ali being in that
1:23:59
conversation. We don't talk about Ali
1:24:01
every fucking year Here's a thing
1:24:03
Floyd is still somewhat hot or
1:24:05
he's still kind of off the
1:24:07
fresh out the fine pan because
1:24:10
he just retired he's still doing
1:24:12
these these exhibitions I'm curious to
1:24:14
see where his name sits in
1:24:16
about 10 years when he's no
1:24:18
you know what I'm saying that's
1:24:20
what I said I said we're
1:24:22
gonna start talking about that when
1:24:25
he's out officially out of the
1:24:27
game that's when we appreciate all
1:24:29
these guys right when they're gone
1:24:31
that's when we show more appreciation
1:24:33
yeah we have to see but
1:24:35
but but he also wait Boxing
1:24:38
influence? There is none better than
1:24:40
Floyd Money Mayweather. What you mean
1:24:42
influence? He changed the game. He's
1:24:44
influenced the business model? He's influenced
1:24:46
every slick fighter? He is boxing!
1:24:48
He has every fucking dude in
1:24:51
the gym doing the padwork. No,
1:24:53
no, not just the padwork. This
1:24:55
is what I'm saying. Ali cannot
1:24:57
be number one with no, there
1:24:59
is no other Ali. Tyson Furies,
1:25:01
the only fucking dude, and Anthony
1:25:04
Sims, they are the only two
1:25:06
people that tried to adapt the
1:25:08
Ali style. Every fucking body, white,
1:25:10
black, Chinese, does a fucking show
1:25:12
the role. And they so, they
1:25:14
wanna be voiced so bad, they're
1:25:17
fucking doing in the South Paul.
1:25:19
But you dudes are disrespectful disrespectful.
1:25:21
I agree with that, but in
1:25:23
terms of popularity, you got, you
1:25:25
got every, every 10 years, somebody
1:25:27
does this fucking dumbass style. And
1:25:30
for the people listening on audio,
1:25:32
I'm doing the, the, the move
1:25:34
your fucking head, Mike Tyson style,
1:25:36
fuck out of here. Floyd is
1:25:38
the most influential boxer there is,
1:25:40
and I know I've butchered the
1:25:43
word. I agree with that, but
1:25:45
in terms of popularity, Mike Tyson,
1:25:47
all this shit. fighting ears. Oh,
1:25:49
oh Floyd didn't? Yes, yes, Mike's
1:25:51
legal trouble with all these shows
1:25:53
dancing with the start. Like Tyson,
1:25:56
I'm telling you, it's more just
1:25:58
like Ali Ali had his, the
1:26:00
civil movement. You know what I'm
1:26:02
saying? Like, it made him huge.
1:26:04
Nah, man. Floyd or nothing, man.
1:26:06
Ford, I got you. I got
1:26:09
you, Floyd. Folken, man, look at
1:26:11
the community, they speaking. 72% agree
1:26:13
with us. That's cool. Somebody said,
1:26:15
you could even, now you can't
1:26:17
argue Delahoe over Floyd, but you
1:26:19
could argue Delahoe is up there
1:26:22
in the top 20, but not
1:26:24
over Floyd, no. Nah, but but
1:26:26
I'm saying, Floyd, influence is not
1:26:28
popularity. How, sway? How? We literally
1:26:30
called Jacob influencer and his popularity
1:26:32
is through the roof. Well, here's
1:26:34
what popularity means. Guys, let's do
1:26:37
the baseline. Popularity is simple. We
1:26:39
poll. Million people walking through the
1:26:41
street and ask him, do you
1:26:43
know who this is? You know
1:26:45
who this is? And whoever they
1:26:47
recognize the most is the most
1:26:50
popular. Use that barometer. Who's the
1:26:52
most popular? Floyd Barrymore. Ask your
1:26:54
grandmother, let's say, hypothetically, your grandmother.
1:26:56
Well now you're tapping at Ali's.
1:26:58
She doesn't know who Muhammad Ali
1:27:00
is, if she doesn't know who
1:27:03
Mike Tyson is. Bro, Mike Tyson
1:27:05
was just in Brooklyn and there
1:27:07
wasn't no fucking, you know, bodyguards,
1:27:09
no security, no cops, because it
1:27:11
wasn't pandemonium. Because he's not a
1:27:13
scared little man. Yeah, and you
1:27:16
can't give us movie. You can't
1:27:18
put four. You're wilding out. You
1:27:20
think Floyd's more recognizable than Tyson?
1:27:22
Hell yeah! Hell yeah! If Floyd
1:27:24
get a movie and he don't
1:27:26
edit it, he has a, he
1:27:29
could, he could, he could surpass
1:27:31
Ali and Tyson. If he gives
1:27:33
us a movie and he gives
1:27:35
it up in the movie, if
1:27:37
he tells us ever, even the
1:27:39
shit with the domestic violence. Bro,
1:27:42
Floyd. Y'all know who Floyd is.
1:27:44
My man, my man, my man,
1:27:46
arguably, he arguably snatched TI baby
1:27:48
moms. Somebody said, had a relationship
1:27:50
with fucking chili. Wasn't she doing
1:27:52
an usher? Somebody said play. Dancing
1:27:55
with the Stars. Dancing with the
1:27:57
Stars. I mean it's so much.
1:27:59
A.J. and they wouldn't mean greet?
1:28:01
Nobody gave a fuck about Floyd.
1:28:03
That wasn't England. That's London. That's
1:28:05
London. Tell A.J. to come over
1:28:08
here in fucking Las Vegas or
1:28:10
New York City and take pictures
1:28:12
next to Florida and see what
1:28:14
the fuck happened. See if they
1:28:16
ain't gonna want to take pictures
1:28:18
only with Floyd and Tyson. You
1:28:21
just can't do it. I certainly
1:28:23
can. No, but I'm saying influence
1:28:25
is not even close, bro, like
1:28:27
Floyd, the business model of boxing
1:28:29
is because of Floyd. All the
1:28:31
young fighters want to be Floyd.
1:28:34
Growner is a baby of Floyd,
1:28:36
bro, like Shakur. Everybody. Yeah, of
1:28:38
course. Hey hey hey hey hey
1:28:40
tone when do the announcer say
1:28:42
oh look he's trying to be
1:28:44
like Ali like it's never well
1:28:47
you have to understand something Ali
1:28:49
style is hard Mike Tyson style
1:28:51
which I know Kevin he taught
1:28:53
to me is hard Floyd style
1:28:55
is the most is the most
1:28:57
is the easiest to try to
1:28:59
do well but to try to
1:29:02
do because you just sit in
1:29:04
the pocket and turn so you're
1:29:06
not hopping around using footwork you're
1:29:08
not going non-stop I'm telling you
1:29:10
and that's looking stuff That fancy
1:29:12
bullshit here at work. Hell no,
1:29:15
the coolest looking style is Ali's.
1:29:17
Coolest looking style is Ali's. Yeah,
1:29:19
but like not pro se, who's
1:29:21
duplicating that? You can't, but Floyd's
1:29:23
is the easiest to try. That's
1:29:25
the point because that style is
1:29:28
forgotten because when the Ali did
1:29:30
it. How much bad Floyd duplication
1:29:32
do we see where it looks
1:29:34
like, what the fuck are you
1:29:36
do it? Yeah, because he's the
1:29:38
greatest ever and people want to
1:29:41
be the greatest. You mimic, how
1:29:43
many, how many, matter of matter
1:29:45
of matter of fact, I ain't
1:29:47
gonna say how many, on this
1:29:49
panel. Which one of you fuckers
1:29:51
did in dribble of basketball and
1:29:54
when you went to shoe stick
1:29:56
your tongue out? No, we all
1:29:58
said Jordan always had code. Exactly.
1:30:00
And that's what the fuck, that's
1:30:02
what every young kid and every
1:30:04
fighter's doing. They stick in their
1:30:07
tongue out except it's in the
1:30:09
form of a fucking shoulder row
1:30:11
showing respect to Floyd. Not Ali
1:30:13
and not Bippity Bob Tyson. Fuck
1:30:15
out of here, man. And you
1:30:17
think that Tyson is is less mobbed
1:30:20
is insane. Bro, bro. First of all,
1:30:22
everybody want to do Floyd's out because
1:30:24
his was the most effective.
1:30:27
Bippity Bob you get jagged up.
1:30:29
You know what I'm saying? My
1:30:31
man told us, he showed us
1:30:33
that, what was that? Lennox that
1:30:35
showed us you get jabbed up?
1:30:37
When you doing that Bipity
1:30:39
Bopty. No, no, no, that's
1:30:41
the first upset, that's the
1:30:43
first upset, that's the first
1:30:45
one. Uh-uh. I ain't talking
1:30:48
about that. I'm talking about
1:30:50
that. When Lennox, who uses
1:30:52
a jab was Bipity Bop, he
1:30:55
was he. That's why nobody
1:30:57
else does it. That's what nobody
1:30:59
else does. The only other person
1:31:01
they could do with is fucking
1:31:04
Tyson Fury. The only one getting
1:31:06
credit. Anthony Sims, he
1:31:08
looked good, but he ain't been
1:31:10
effective with it. He looked good
1:31:13
with the outfit. Floyd has a lot
1:31:15
to work on because you got
1:31:17
Ali, he transcended outside the
1:31:19
sport. Tyson, he got them
1:31:22
Hulu series, he transcended out
1:31:24
to sport. George Forming, got
1:31:26
the grill. Floyd hasn't really
1:31:28
transcended outside the sport yet.
1:31:30
I mean, yeah, there's not
1:31:32
that many fighters that are to
1:31:35
this day known from the past
1:31:37
because there's just not. There's
1:31:39
only a handful. I don't even
1:31:41
know who those are outside of those
1:31:43
three. We just mentioned. Well, right now,
1:31:45
eventually we'll be in the top two,
1:31:48
but not yet. Right now we got
1:31:50
the polls been going for only a
1:31:52
minor. Little 26 minutes,
1:31:55
that's nothing. We only
1:31:57
got 310 votes. The
1:32:00
question is, is Jake Paul
1:32:02
telling the truth? Is Mohammed
1:32:04
Ali and Mike Tyson the
1:32:06
two biggest fighters ever? Simple
1:32:08
answers, yes, no, Mayweather is
1:32:11
for sure one of the
1:32:13
two. We also got some
1:32:15
super chats, we gotta get
1:32:17
to and get into the
1:32:19
callers. Looks like we last
1:32:21
stopped off at... All right,
1:32:24
good next look, we got
1:32:26
Esm, ten hours. Devin
1:32:28
has no pop. Though you
1:32:30
think he can hang around
1:32:32
at 147 and for how
1:32:34
long until he outgrows that
1:32:36
coming in over 160 since
1:32:38
he was at 135. Greatest
1:32:40
fight though, I got Tio.
1:32:42
We'll see if he got
1:32:44
no pop up until now
1:32:46
he's been able to have
1:32:48
good enough power to make
1:32:51
you, you know, respect him.
1:32:53
He hurt Ryan. And he
1:32:55
definitely held Regis at bay.
1:32:57
So I don't know that
1:32:59
he doesn't have power. He
1:33:01
also knocked out a common
1:33:03
opponent with T.O. Mason Menard.
1:33:05
T.O. just did it faster.
1:33:07
Leonard Sterling, two-pounder. You see
1:33:09
Shoo-shoo tweet? Said the zone,
1:33:11
said on the zone YouTube
1:33:13
channel, not Netflix. Yeah, we
1:33:15
talked about it. Leonard Stern
1:33:17
back with another two-pounder. He
1:33:19
said, wasn't Poiro elevated to
1:33:21
full champion in June? I
1:33:23
don't have them elevated. If
1:33:25
you're right. It doesn't show
1:33:27
him elevated on our site.
1:33:29
Leonard Sterling, two pounder, we
1:33:31
read that. Benita's boxing, two
1:33:33
dollars. Why the F, the
1:33:35
likes ain't up. Damn shame.
1:33:37
No, believe me, bro, that's
1:33:40
why I went members mode.
1:33:42
Because when we was always
1:33:44
chat free, it's like, 1300
1:33:46
people watching, 200 likes. It's
1:33:48
like, bro, no respect. B
1:33:50
Pauli, shout out, fat, ten
1:33:52
hours. Sorry for that
1:33:54
fire emoji nice prayer hands
1:33:56
emoji play that jingle please
1:33:58
hashtag 14 years nests Salute,
1:34:00
Champ Salute. Yeah, I know,
1:34:02
bro, I think in February,
1:34:04
makes the 14th, for the
1:34:06
15th years. Me and Super
1:34:08
Max is talking, we need
1:34:10
to do something. We might
1:34:12
end up doing something around
1:34:14
a canelow fight, because more
1:34:16
people come out, but if
1:34:18
we could get a big
1:34:20
tank fight, you know, our
1:34:22
communities big into tank too,
1:34:24
we need to do an
1:34:26
appreciation night. Or February at
1:34:28
Border Wars. We can try
1:34:30
to do something, since we're
1:34:33
gonna be giving away awards.
1:34:35
Anyway, we have to play
1:34:37
the jingle, right? Let's do
1:34:39
it. Got to get in
1:34:41
a good move, man. The
1:34:43
jingle can do that. Oh
1:34:45
yeah. You know it. They
1:34:47
love you in the jingle,
1:34:49
too. They love you in
1:34:51
the jingle. Your man is
1:34:53
getting slayed in that point.
1:34:57
It's a
1:34:59
great day
1:35:01
to talk
1:35:04
boxing. There's
1:35:06
some of
1:35:08
my super
1:35:11
channel calling.
1:35:13
It's the
1:35:15
boxing voice
1:35:17
radio. Number
1:35:20
one podcasting.
1:35:25
You feel me
1:35:28
with the fire?
1:35:31
Marko in that
1:35:33
video is classic.
1:35:36
Fucking Marcos. It
1:35:39
did you up,
1:35:42
Marco. I mean.
1:35:44
At least they
1:35:47
had me enjoying
1:35:50
the tomato cans.
1:35:52
Not. No. Radio.
1:35:55
That should be
1:35:58
going hard, bro.
1:36:00
Yeah, man. Salute,
1:36:03
having Hainey, T.O.
1:36:06
But I'm telling
1:36:09
you, y'all this
1:36:11
may be a
1:36:14
reach. Don't let
1:36:17
Kishine capture that
1:36:19
W. B.O. belt,
1:36:22
man. Top right.
1:36:25
That's 35. That's
1:36:28
what I'm saying like if Keeshaw
1:36:30
get that 135 pound belt then
1:36:32
he fight murder tie and beat
1:36:34
him and fight loma are we
1:36:36
are we sold on Keeshaw on
1:36:39
panel I'm absolutely sold on Keeshaw
1:36:41
they gonna mark him like boy
1:36:43
I mean tango what is what
1:36:45
is what is Marco's definition of
1:36:48
sold sold means do we think
1:36:50
he will be a champion not
1:36:52
only a champion but a somewhat
1:36:54
dominant champion yes I mean it's
1:36:56
certainly too soon to tell will
1:36:59
he be dominant champion, but champion
1:37:01
he will certainly be. Certainly be.
1:37:03
I mean it's gonna take Barantec
1:37:05
to upset him. I think he'll
1:37:08
be a favorite over Barantec. I
1:37:10
would certainly have to go back
1:37:12
and watch that Barantec now at
1:37:14
that fight to see exactly how
1:37:16
good, uh, Barantec is, but yeah,
1:37:19
I think that he'll be the
1:37:21
favorite over him. Yeah, I mean,
1:37:23
you don't think so more they
1:37:25
seems I don't I'm not sold
1:37:28
on him being a dominant champion
1:37:30
no champion probably I'm not sold
1:37:32
you I want to see more
1:37:34
The leemos fight was great, but
1:37:36
you know I said this before
1:37:39
when leemos was tailor-made Motherfought can't
1:37:41
punch and he comes right at
1:37:43
you so that was just like
1:37:45
homecoming show which you mean can't
1:37:47
punch because a knockout ratio? 65%
1:37:50
leemos is low My dude, yo,
1:37:52
you tripping man, this is that
1:37:54
box wreck shit you doing. Did
1:37:56
you not watch the hit you?
1:37:59
fight? Yeah, I don't think I
1:38:01
don't think so. So did he
1:38:03
not hurt hitcheons? Wait, did he
1:38:05
not hurt hitcheons? Yes, I'm just
1:38:07
saying overall. Did he not ask
1:38:10
you some questions? Let me just
1:38:12
ask you. Did he not hurt
1:38:14
hitcheons? He can yes. Okay, can
1:38:16
have some knockouts. Did he not
1:38:19
swell the face of hitcheons? I
1:38:22
don't remember if you swelled this
1:38:24
way. If you're saying that, then
1:38:26
I guess he did. Okay? Did
1:38:28
he not make Hitchin's fight more
1:38:30
defensively than we've ever seen? Just
1:38:33
because he was too much for
1:38:35
Hitchin's doesn't mean he's overall a
1:38:37
hard puncher. Did you see the
1:38:39
Selby fight? He knocked out Selby.
1:38:41
Selby is a champion. He's a
1:38:43
former champion again, just because you
1:38:45
don't have a great chin and
1:38:47
your champion doesn't mean you you
1:38:50
know I'm saying champions could have
1:38:52
bad chins Obviously I don't think
1:38:54
he's a hard puncher. I don't
1:38:56
think he's a weak puncher. Don't
1:38:58
get me wrong 65% is bad
1:39:00
in Markle's eyes 60. Yes, if
1:39:02
you look if you look On
1:39:04
the average, now there's always exceptions,
1:39:06
anything over 70 is usually where
1:39:09
you see the certified hard punches
1:39:11
are 70. Now he's right, he's
1:39:13
almost there, true. But that's, he's
1:39:15
right on the border, so I'm
1:39:17
not really sold yet, but I
1:39:19
want to see more. But he
1:39:21
certainly looked great against, I didn't
1:39:23
think he would do that, Kichuan.
1:39:26
So, you know, we'll see what
1:39:28
happens. Going into that fight everybody
1:39:30
thought that this would be a
1:39:32
test for Kichon because he was
1:39:34
tough any compartment. Exactly, man. Exactly.
1:39:36
Yeah, no, I get it. This
1:39:38
is Regency by us. It's so
1:39:40
unfair. This is what we do.
1:39:42
He's also short. He's also short.
1:39:45
So Kichon could, you know, keep
1:39:47
him at his range. There's a
1:39:49
lot of factors that makes me
1:39:51
not that impressed with the. But
1:39:53
at this one thing I am
1:39:55
impressed with is Lemos. I'm mistaken.
1:39:57
I never even been mistaken. Do
1:39:59
you have Kichon Davis or Frank
1:40:02
Martin? Bro, this is so disrespectful,
1:40:04
bro, like, this is why our
1:40:06
sport doesn't grow. This is why
1:40:08
I spoke, doesn't grow, because week
1:40:10
before the fight, oh, oh, this
1:40:12
is a tough fight, he gonna
1:40:14
get knocked out. This is the
1:40:16
toughest fight ever. Day after the
1:40:18
fight, man, Kichon, man, come on,
1:40:21
that was easy fight for him.
1:40:23
Come on, man, dude's telling me.
1:40:25
We never gonna grow. Yashoot yourself
1:40:27
in the self in the foot.
1:40:29
We said the dude was good.
1:40:31
We said we want to see
1:40:33
him again. They fucking give him
1:40:35
to us again with another good
1:40:38
fighter and now we shitting on
1:40:40
him. There are people that thought
1:40:42
he beat hitcheons. Like, we'll never
1:40:44
grow. We'll never grow. We'll never
1:40:46
grow. Yeah, that's true. People thought
1:40:48
he'd be hitchet, but whatever. We'll
1:40:50
see what happened. What's happened? I
1:40:52
thought, and I said it, that
1:40:54
this fight would tell us a
1:40:57
lot about Kishawm because this was
1:40:59
a big stepping class. And I
1:41:01
was impressed. And I think it's
1:41:03
the goods, man. And you got
1:41:05
dogs. I see people on Twitter
1:41:07
doing it too, like, oh, come
1:41:09
on, man. Let's not get over,
1:41:11
hey, he was number 48 on
1:41:14
Box, you know, fucking Googlers, man.
1:41:16
Like, I don't give a fuck
1:41:18
what number he was, man. I
1:41:20
watched watched them fight in the
1:41:22
fuck of a fight. Put him
1:41:24
with your favorite fighter. What's a
1:41:26
favorite fighter. Let's see how that
1:41:28
look. I still want to see
1:41:31
him back. Him versus uh, uh,
1:41:33
Eastock Cruz is an amazing fight.
1:41:35
Oh, Kishaw. Yeah, no, not Kishaw,
1:41:37
man. Oh, Limo's. Yeah, because those
1:41:39
are going right at each other.
1:41:41
Bro, it's called matchmaking. All right,
1:41:43
man. DC, three, two dollars. I'm
1:41:45
glad you and your fans. Good,
1:41:47
that's all it matters. He
1:41:51
says, got to get yourself
1:41:53
an adjuster, insurance, they're a
1:41:55
pain. Yeah, someone just deemed
1:41:58
me the same thing saying
1:42:00
they went through a fire
1:42:02
and... And the insurance lowballed
1:42:05
them and they got an
1:42:07
adjustment, got like triple, which
1:42:09
is crazy. DC3, $5 counterpunch,
1:42:12
and Leonard's turn on $2.
1:42:14
Goyat's opponent, Nunez, has $58
1:42:16
million on insta, $44 million
1:42:18
on YouTube. Okay, so I
1:42:21
guess he's the influencer. Where
1:42:23
is DC3? What up? Houston.
1:42:32
You know, you, what's the
1:42:34
day you got me? This,
1:42:37
you know, this, I hear
1:42:39
what you saying about the
1:42:41
Floyd stuff, but look, think
1:42:44
about this, you saying it
1:42:46
was in the UK, but
1:42:49
you think that there was
1:42:51
Tyson's to the next to
1:42:54
AJ, he'll get the same
1:42:56
treatment. Yeah. You
1:42:59
believe that in the UK? You believe
1:43:01
that in this for real? Yeah. Yeah.
1:43:03
No, I want to. I know you,
1:43:06
I know you kept a lot of
1:43:08
money. But now I don't like, Floyd,
1:43:10
yeah. Floyd, he has the, he has
1:43:12
the guys around my age, like. Yo,
1:43:15
are you on the Bluetooth? Yeah, that
1:43:17
shit's mad cracking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's,
1:43:19
it's, it's giving out feedback. Maybe we
1:43:22
want to disconnect. Yeah, you ain't got
1:43:24
that feedback. Yep. My bad, I heard
1:43:26
you coming to the truth. But look,
1:43:29
I said, no, that's what I'm saying.
1:43:31
Like, we can't, Mike Tyson is different.
1:43:33
It's like, he on the, like, Mike
1:43:35
Tyson is, like, he on the, like,
1:43:38
Mike Tyson is, I'm willing to beg
1:43:40
Mike Tyson is one of the top
1:43:42
10 most famous people that was playing
1:43:45
Earthness. I'm willing to, I'm willing to,
1:43:47
I'm willing to bet Floyd Floyd Floyd
1:43:49
one of the most, most famous, one
1:43:52
of the most famous, one of the
1:43:54
most famous, one of the most famous,
1:43:56
one of the most famous, one of
1:43:58
the most famous, one of the world.
1:44:01
Nah, one of the most famous, one
1:44:03
of the world. Nah, no world. Nah,
1:44:05
no. Nah, no. My dude, my dude,
1:44:08
listen, Mike Tyson never made more money
1:44:10
than Floyd. Floyd is always going to
1:44:12
be popular. He set, he set trend.
1:44:15
We are talking about fighters who we
1:44:17
still talk about to this day. We're
1:44:19
talking about. We're talking about. We are
1:44:21
talking about. We are talking about. We
1:44:24
are talking about. We are talking about.
1:44:26
We are talking about. We are talking
1:44:28
about. We are talking about. We are
1:44:31
talking about. We are talking about fighters
1:44:33
who we still talk about to this
1:44:35
day. Muhammad Ali ain't that. That's because
1:44:38
he passed too. Him passing. Yeah. And
1:44:40
ain't nothing wrong with that. Ain't nothing
1:44:42
wrong with that. I'm just saying, we
1:44:44
talk about Floyd every day. And we
1:44:47
talk about Tyson. Often, but not every
1:44:49
day. We talk about Floyd every day.
1:44:51
Not every year, every day. Every day.
1:44:54
And then we talk about him on
1:44:56
fight nights. They don't belong to him.
1:44:58
Because again, people doing his style. Like
1:45:01
y' y'a got to cut the shit.
1:45:03
I know because I know because this
1:45:05
was his this was his era though
1:45:07
that's why he's talked about more you
1:45:10
know what I'm saying and what he
1:45:12
did I'm not he's the goal of
1:45:14
boxing this but when we talk no
1:45:17
no it's not his era they talk
1:45:19
about him because he's the best to
1:45:21
ever do it it was his era
1:45:24
it was his era bro Mike Tyson
1:45:26
was jealous of Floyd yeah I know
1:45:28
it Floyd never said shit about Tyson.
1:45:30
How many things you could Google right
1:45:33
now found Tyson saying about Floyd? People,
1:45:35
yeah. There wasn't his error. They fought.
1:45:37
More people, more people. There's more people
1:45:40
like Tyson fight to Floyd fight. Yeah,
1:45:42
right. Yeah, right. That's a fact. It
1:45:44
wasn't about a pay while you were
1:45:47
free. How crazy it was paper view.
1:45:49
So, so you, you think you think
1:45:51
you think you think you think that
1:45:53
he. I'm talking about Prime Tyson. I'm
1:45:56
talking about Prime Tyson. Give me a
1:45:58
fight. I'm gonna Google it right now.
1:46:00
Give me a fight. I'll get the
1:46:03
view of shit right now. You're wrong
1:46:05
there. You see, Prime Tyson was always
1:46:07
on pay-per-view, except he had one fight
1:46:09
against, I think it was Western Memphis.
1:46:12
I'm not the only person who's saying
1:46:14
it. You get me to fight. I
1:46:16
Google it right now. Think about it.
1:46:19
Ford got the biggest television deal in
1:46:21
boxing history. Why? Because he brought the
1:46:23
biggest fucking numbers in. Y'all can make
1:46:26
shit up all y'all y'all want. How
1:46:28
we making stuff up when it's clear
1:46:30
as day? I'm the only person who's
1:46:32
saying it. I ain't never see Tyson.
1:46:35
What? He said, what? The thing and
1:46:37
you got to give fraud is for
1:46:39
a person who did not knock people
1:46:42
out for him to generate the money
1:46:44
that he did is astronomical. Not just
1:46:46
the money, the numbers. The numbers. His
1:46:49
numbers was consistently better than Pacquiao. He
1:46:51
stopped knocking people out, but people remembered.
1:46:53
Pretty boy was. brutal he was knocking
1:46:55
people the fuck out so and that
1:46:58
was still in people's mind now but
1:47:00
I'm so the fans that push Floyd
1:47:02
over the top aren't pretty boy Mayweather
1:47:05
fans their money that's true that's true
1:47:07
yeah money may weather fans yeah he
1:47:09
was able to market himself as the
1:47:12
villain you know a lot of people
1:47:14
a lot of people tuned in to
1:47:16
see his pay for views because they
1:47:18
wanted to see him get his shit
1:47:21
he did it against Deloio yeah Yeah,
1:47:23
no, and that's impressive like tone you
1:47:25
nailed it man for somebody that they're
1:47:28
not people out People paid to see
1:47:30
him fight man crazy You know you
1:47:32
what you knew you weren't getting a
1:47:35
knockout you knew you were not getting
1:47:37
a knockout on at your fight party
1:47:39
But you still paid to watch Floyd
1:47:41
at the fight party. That's that's astronaut.
1:47:44
He also took on everybody he took
1:47:46
on dudes who can punch So you're
1:47:48
watching like well if he's he might
1:47:51
get knocked out you know saying like
1:47:53
so he was he took on everybody
1:47:55
You know you can't say anything else
1:47:58
about Floyd like he fought. I think
1:48:00
it's the most most world champions out
1:48:02
of any champion in history,
1:48:05
I believe, was 28. I
1:48:07
mean, come on. Let me get
1:48:09
to... CYP, counterpunch.
1:48:11
Yo, um, let me tap in,
1:48:13
let me tap in just
1:48:15
a little bit, because uh,
1:48:18
next, actually, you got
1:48:20
that little bit of
1:48:22
a point. And I'm gonna tell
1:48:24
you why, why he has a
1:48:26
point. When it comes to
1:48:28
boxing. Boxing, right? The most brutal,
1:48:31
popular boxing is Floyd Mayweather Jr.
1:48:33
That's over Ali and Tyson. When
1:48:35
it comes to sports icons, Ali
1:48:37
is number one in the world
1:48:40
history up there with Jordan. I
1:48:42
think y'all get confused with what
1:48:44
somebody knows you for. He said
1:48:46
in boxing. He didn't say in
1:48:48
the world, in boxing, it's Floyd
1:48:50
Mayweather, right? There are people who
1:48:53
have Muhammad Ali posters in their
1:48:55
house, who never seen Muhammad Ali
1:48:57
fight. I grew up Muslim, right? I
1:48:59
was taught to study Muhammad Ali,
1:49:01
not because of his boxing skill. I
1:49:04
was never told to see any of his
1:49:06
fights. I was taught to study him
1:49:08
as a man. There's a difference. You
1:49:10
understand this. Floyd Maidweather was
1:49:12
arguably in a conversation of
1:49:15
top two, but definitely three, without
1:49:17
going to jail for rape, without fighting
1:49:19
for his people and not going to the
1:49:21
God damn war, he's still up there with
1:49:24
them other three, with them two. You know
1:49:26
why? Because of how great of a boxerler
1:49:28
he was. So good. It's so good at
1:49:31
boxing that if you have to be honest,
1:49:33
the people like him, he's the
1:49:35
greatest athlete of all time, period.
1:49:37
Nobody is as successful as that
1:49:39
man at their sport in the
1:49:41
history of sports. There is nobody,
1:49:44
not a tennis player, not a
1:49:46
golfer, not a basketball player, not a
1:49:48
football player. There is not a track,
1:49:50
not even you saying both. There's
1:49:53
not Michael Phelps. There is nobody at
1:49:55
good at his craft of sport. then
1:49:57
this man flew and made weather. That's
1:49:59
why people emulate. him. Now you ask
1:50:01
yourself, what are you talking about?
1:50:03
Mike Tyson is a fighter to
1:50:05
most people's eyes, not a boxer.
1:50:07
That's why John Jones talks about
1:50:09
him. MMA guys talk about him.
1:50:11
They don't talk about him as
1:50:14
a boxer, they talk about him
1:50:16
as a fighter because real boxing
1:50:18
fans know Mike Tyson is overrated
1:50:20
as a boxer, but as a
1:50:22
fighter he's not overrated. He fought
1:50:24
18, the next year, 100,000 buys.
1:50:26
He fought Williams the next year,
1:50:28
150. Fought Big Bride the next
1:50:30
year, 250. Floyd and his prime
1:50:33
ain't never done numbers like that.
1:50:35
Never. Because that was when Mike
1:50:37
Tyson was just boxing and people
1:50:39
didn't give a shit. When you
1:50:41
say people didn't care about Andre
1:50:43
Berto, Andre Berto, they better than
1:50:45
250, 100. Why did he? Because
1:50:47
as boxers, Floyd kills him. Floyd.
1:50:49
A lot of people know who
1:50:52
Mike Tyson is, not because they
1:50:54
saw him fight, because they know
1:50:56
he's crazy. You take away the
1:50:58
jail and the biting of the
1:51:00
ear. How great is Mike Tyson?
1:51:02
Like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
1:51:04
I'm fucking tired of this kid.
1:51:06
I'm tired of people giving Mike
1:51:08
Tyson so much credit because he
1:51:11
made a fuck of food. Mike
1:51:13
Tyson embarrassed us for fucking decades
1:51:15
with his crazy dumb ass. He
1:51:17
beat an old Larry Holmes. Let
1:51:19
me keep running. I'm gonna add
1:51:21
five to this shit. We need
1:51:23
to get this shit once and
1:51:25
for all. Because y'all be on
1:51:27
my head about Thomas. I'm gonna
1:51:29
give you a real about my
1:51:32
Tyson. The real about my Tyson
1:51:34
is he'd be the old Larry
1:51:36
Holmes. That's what we'd be. Les
1:51:38
Holmes is 37 years old when
1:51:40
he beat that man. That's his
1:51:42
best win of his career versus
1:51:44
a 37-year-old Les Holmes. I'm gonna
1:51:46
let you know. Anthony Joshua's getting
1:51:48
those getting those getting beat up
1:51:51
at 38. He'd be lying. Oh,
1:51:53
we have more people. Y, Y,
1:51:55
P. How are you breaking down,
1:51:57
Mike Tyson? How come you'll do
1:51:59
the same thing? the thing. Oh,
1:52:01
it's not over. So try again.
1:52:03
The same Davis career is over,
1:52:05
like Chavez's career is over, like
1:52:07
Mike Tyson career is over, I'll
1:52:10
do the same thing. Next, I
1:52:12
don't even know why you do
1:52:14
that shit. Why do you jump
1:52:16
in with the dump shit? Be
1:52:18
quiet. Can I'm done? You think
1:52:20
tango, you think tango around the
1:52:22
guy? Listen, that's what you truly
1:52:24
believe. Don't talk over my money.
1:52:26
I'm not, I'm not engaging with
1:52:29
you when I'm on monster liloquis.
1:52:31
Let greatness be greatness be great.
1:52:33
Okay, so get that's not a
1:52:35
good career move. Back to Mike
1:52:37
Tyson. Mike Tyson's greatest win is
1:52:39
against 37-year-old Larry Holmes who has
1:52:41
passed his prime. We all know
1:52:43
this year. Spinks. Spinks. Spinks. Spinks.
1:52:45
Spinks. From the movie and from
1:52:47
the interview with Larry Holmes, if
1:52:50
y'all are real boxing fans, which
1:52:52
I'll say I'm not, I saw
1:52:54
the movie and I saw the
1:52:56
interview where Larry Holmes said, no,
1:52:58
his wife didn't want to fight
1:53:00
Mike Tyson, he was done boxing,
1:53:02
but Don King kept calling, kept
1:53:04
calling, up in, up in the
1:53:06
money, up in the money, up
1:53:09
in the money, up in the
1:53:11
money, up in the money, up
1:53:13
in the money, up in the
1:53:15
money, up in the money, up
1:53:17
in the money, up in the
1:53:19
money. He said, up in the
1:53:21
money. He said, he said, he
1:53:23
said, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,
1:53:25
okay, okay, okay, okay, I'll do
1:53:28
it Don for one last fucking
1:53:30
time. That's the reason why he
1:53:32
fought Mike Tyson. Not because he
1:53:34
was ready to just work my
1:53:36
taxes. He didn't want to fight
1:53:38
Mike Tyson. His wife did one
1:53:40
of two. Those are his own
1:53:42
words. He could be lying. But
1:53:44
at least we have documentation. If
1:53:47
I'm saying, I don't want to.
1:53:49
We have documentation. If I'm saying,
1:53:51
I don't want to fight. If
1:53:53
I'm saying, I don't want to.
1:53:55
We have documentation. He could be
1:53:57
lying. But man. But brother. But
1:53:59
brother. This is good brother. This
1:54:01
is to me brother. This is
1:54:03
to me brother. This is to
1:54:05
me brother. Think about it. Think
1:54:08
about it. They can go down
1:54:10
and get to me. What did
1:54:12
you beat the iron mic Tyson?
1:54:14
That's what he kept doing. Kept
1:54:16
getting that man to fight that
1:54:18
dude. And y'all want to give
1:54:20
him credit for that. And then
1:54:22
y'all say, well, Mike Tyson was
1:54:24
hiring on George when he's lost
1:54:27
a bust of Douglas. I saw
1:54:29
a Buster Douglas who was not
1:54:31
afraid of that man like Peekly
1:54:33
Thomas was. I saw a Buster
1:54:35
Douglas who said, you hit me,
1:54:37
I'm gonna hit you back. I
1:54:39
saw Buster Douglas who wasn't on
1:54:41
that back was scared like the
1:54:43
rest of these skinny 212 pound
1:54:46
dudes that he was fighting. Because
1:54:48
Buster Douglas, if I'm not mistaken,
1:54:50
is about six four to 40
1:54:52
something. That's a big ass motherfucker.
1:54:54
Who was going to put them
1:54:56
tips on anybody? And I'm not
1:54:58
talking about a waitress or a
1:55:00
valet. I'm talking about about to
1:55:02
tip you over. Timber with Mike
1:55:05
Tyson did. Looking for his mouthpiece.
1:55:07
One of his busters was done.
1:55:09
To have never been tapped to
1:55:11
a never-be tapped to a never-be
1:55:13
tapped to a never-be tapped to
1:55:15
a never-be tapped to a never-bapped
1:55:17
to a never-bapped until he thought-fied
1:55:19
to a never-bapped-bapped-dered-b to a-bered-bitty-bitty-bitty-bitty-bitty-a-a-a-a-a-a-bitty-a-a-bitty-bitty-a-a-a-a-a-a-bitty-bitty-a-a-a-a-bitty-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-bitty-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a- Your
1:55:21
turn to get your asphalt for
1:55:23
taking that money. A lot of
1:55:26
boxes do it and it's your
1:55:28
turn. If you want to talk
1:55:30
about who's the most popular boxer,
1:55:32
post-popular boxer, that's what it made
1:55:34
weather. The most popular sports icon,
1:55:36
that's Mohammed Ali. The most popular
1:55:38
fighter, the most popular fighter, that's
1:55:40
Mohammed Ali. The most popular fighter,
1:55:42
the most popular sports icon, that's
1:55:45
Mohammed Ali. The most popular fighter,
1:55:47
Mohammed Ali. The most popular fighter,
1:55:49
for the three different, than who.
1:55:51
Carl Lewis and who did take
1:55:53
for call Lewis to be this
1:55:55
matter? You say both? And what
1:55:57
do you say both have to
1:55:59
do? Damn near be perfect. Floyd
1:56:01
Mayweather's tell CYPL. Yeah, a lot
1:56:04
of good points, but we made
1:56:06
it clear that we're talking about
1:56:08
global popularity, just asking people, have
1:56:10
you heard of this person? No,
1:56:12
no, no, no. Oh, we didn't.
1:56:14
That's how we were doing? We
1:56:16
would have to go back to
1:56:18
the episode, because I'm pretty sure.
1:56:20
Jake said I'm fighting one of
1:56:23
the two biggest boxes in the
1:56:25
world. Well, so so now we're
1:56:27
getting in semantics. So we're saying
1:56:29
the most known who were in
1:56:31
professional boxing? I mean, what are
1:56:33
we talking about here? I mean,
1:56:35
I'm talking in the world, right?
1:56:37
Like when people see, think greatest,
1:56:39
who they thinking? Who's the greatest
1:56:41
in the world? Like, I don't
1:56:44
know. I'm fucking up now because...
1:56:46
I watched it yesterday and yeah
1:56:48
I don't think he said greatest
1:56:50
I think he said the most
1:56:52
popular but hell no he ain't
1:56:54
say the word popular well Tyson's
1:56:56
I won the greatest I mean
1:56:58
see what I think maybe said
1:57:00
biggest and that's why I was
1:57:03
always using the biggest maybe he
1:57:05
said whatever I said initially is
1:57:07
what he said but we were
1:57:09
right he was right that where
1:57:11
Tyson definitely was not one of
1:57:13
the best boxers because you know
1:57:15
I agree with him in that
1:57:17
but but but in terms of
1:57:19
popularity yeah I mean those two
1:57:22
well Let's get to these super
1:57:24
chats. I got... El Compalito, member
1:57:26
for three months on a contender
1:57:28
level Marco, has the Benjamin Button
1:57:30
Diseaseone baby. That's funny. That's crazy.
1:57:32
That's mad root. Off the ropes
1:57:34
boxing. Two dollars. Number one, Ali,
1:57:36
number two, Tyson, number three. Leonard.
1:57:38
The disrespect. The Axiom, two dollars.
1:57:41
The Axiom, two dollars. Oscar De
1:57:43
La Hoyer is third in global
1:57:45
popularity. The Axiom, two more dollars.
1:57:47
Play the AJ and Mayweather, meet
1:57:49
and grieve, footage. Never seen it.
1:57:51
You never seen it? No. Of
1:57:53
course I seen it. Marco. Saint,
1:57:55
five dollars. I'm with Ness. I'm
1:57:57
with Ness. I'm with Ness. His
1:57:59
opinion will stand true 10 years
1:58:02
from now. Hashtag TBE. Go to
1:58:04
Mogee Boxing Club. Tell me y'all
1:58:06
Floyd is the most. Look at
1:58:08
your poll. The theory is getting
1:58:10
buried. It's so good. It's all
1:58:12
right. You heard? It's all right.
1:58:14
Yeah, no, it'll that'll be a
1:58:16
landslide. People was getting was doing
1:58:18
five parties knowing that the fight
1:58:21
was on the last 30 or
1:58:23
20 seconds with Mike Tyson. Mike
1:58:25
Tyson was was the culture at
1:58:27
that point. Breaking down his resume
1:58:29
with Tyson. That's cool. But when
1:58:31
tank career done, you got to
1:58:33
do the same thing with tank.
1:58:35
Would Floyd wasn't a knockout artist.
1:58:37
But I'm just man, like, CYP
1:58:40
was right as one of the
1:58:42
greatest athletes with Floyd never transcended
1:58:44
that. He was never our Nike
1:58:46
athlete. We're supposed to be wearing
1:58:48
air maywethers right now. We was,
1:58:50
he made all his money fighting.
1:58:52
He's one of the people that
1:58:54
made $0 in endorsements. Yeah, because
1:58:56
he endorsed himself. He endorsed himself.
1:58:59
The TMT brand, TMT brand became
1:59:01
a household name, bro. Like well,
1:59:03
he also and we forget one
1:59:05
make let me say one thing
1:59:07
we forget one really major thing
1:59:09
Ali Mike Tyson They did not
1:59:11
have social media. That's a priceless
1:59:13
man Floyd got popular from his
1:59:15
social media antics, throwing the money
1:59:17
around, going to strip clubs, doing
1:59:20
all his crazy shit. That's what
1:59:22
it matters. That wasn't social media.
1:59:24
That was 24-7. He did both.
1:59:26
No, no, no. See, and that's
1:59:28
what I'm saying. And that's what
1:59:30
I'm saying. Yad so disrespectful, like
1:59:32
Floyd invented 24-7. Like, HBO hadn't
1:59:34
done that until Floyd Oscar, because
1:59:36
of who the fuck he was.
1:59:39
Before he was smart. I'm pretty
1:59:41
sure if we Google it, he's
1:59:43
gonna come up as an executive
1:59:45
producer. Like, boy, bro. He, he,
1:59:47
he, he, he, he, he. Media
1:59:49
with Floyd, bro, Floyd was an
1:59:51
era before. So. Exactly. If social
1:59:53
media was cracking, if social media
1:59:55
was cracking in the beginning of
1:59:58
money mayweather, oh Floyd surpasses Tyson
2:00:00
easily, because Instagram wouldn't have been
2:00:02
able to see a nigger walking
2:00:04
around with five million in cash.
2:00:06
What do y'all talk about? When
2:00:08
Floyd fought Pacio and McGregor was
2:00:10
not, was social media not cracking.
2:00:12
Those were his two biggest fights.
2:00:14
And that is, that is a
2:00:17
flaw on social media, is that
2:00:19
we didn't get the packy-out fight
2:00:21
when the fans wanted to get
2:00:23
that fight. If we would have
2:00:25
got that fight, when the fans
2:00:27
wanted it, because when we got
2:00:29
it, that actually hurt the sporta
2:00:31
boxing. People left that fight, like,
2:00:33
man, that's why I don't buy
2:00:35
it on paper. Yeah, boring. Weak-ass
2:00:38
fight, this weak-ass shit. That hurt
2:00:40
boxing. Floyd see Floyd's crazy Floyd's
2:00:42
help boxing and he's destroying it
2:00:44
at the same time Yeah, that's
2:00:46
how polarizing he is Floyd just
2:00:48
don't got the song man I
2:00:50
want to be like Mike's on
2:00:52
but everybody won't be like Floyd
2:00:54
and and and and and it
2:00:57
doesn't matter what the whole saying
2:00:59
but Michael Jordan, like people want
2:01:01
to be like Jordan, that don't
2:01:03
hurt the game of basketball. More
2:01:05
people need to be like Jordan
2:01:07
a fucking dog. But more people
2:01:09
are going to be like Floyd,
2:01:11
it's hurting the sport. That ain't
2:01:13
what's hurting the sport. That ain't
2:01:16
was hurting the sport. You know,
2:01:18
and I hate to sound corny
2:01:20
like some of the other people,
2:01:22
but before it's working. They just
2:01:24
want to be Floyd Duck. Why
2:01:26
do you think it hurts the
2:01:28
sports? They want to be like
2:01:30
Floyd. Because they want to be
2:01:32
Floyd They want to pick and
2:01:35
choose who they fight. They're preserving
2:01:37
the old. But Floyd didn't do
2:01:39
that. But Floyd didn't do that.
2:01:41
Floyd got to a point like
2:01:43
Canello is at now where he
2:01:45
can do that. You can't say
2:01:47
Floyd duck any of that's bullshit.
2:01:49
You cannot say that. You definitely
2:01:51
duck Keith Thurman. Come on. So,
2:01:53
it's tone. He fought everybody and
2:01:56
their grandmother. Like, you can't fight
2:01:58
everybody. Yeah, yeah, but, but, but,
2:02:00
but, but, but, Marco, why don't.
2:02:02
Don't you have the same energy
2:02:04
for Canello? What you mean? You
2:02:06
don't say that about him and
2:02:08
David. Wait, say what? What? What's
2:02:10
the fuck you're talking about? All
2:02:12
right, I'll slow it down. You're
2:02:15
saying you can't fight everybody. Come
2:02:17
on, Tom. When he said he
2:02:19
ducked Keith Thurman Keith Thurman represents
2:02:21
what I go to say because
2:02:23
there's nobody else there for fucking
2:02:25
Canello right now without opposed come
2:02:27
on there was no one there
2:02:29
my brother there was again again
2:02:31
either you watch boxing or you
2:02:34
don't there was no one there
2:02:36
we didn't want Berto and we
2:02:38
certainly didn't need Guerrero that was
2:02:40
his last two I only criticized
2:02:42
Floyd for fighting McGregor and Berto
2:02:44
in terms of competition wise But
2:02:46
those of his last two fights,
2:02:48
he deserved the right. And I
2:02:50
said this about Konello. Do you
2:02:53
not remember that? If Konello's retiring
2:02:55
soon, he deserves the right to
2:02:57
pick a couple easy, easy ones
2:02:59
to go out in the sunset
2:03:01
because he fought everybody too. But
2:03:03
that's if he's retiring soon, which
2:03:05
he's not making it clear. Floyd
2:03:07
did make it clear back there.
2:03:09
Like I'm out of here. I'm
2:03:11
having a couple, I'm done. If
2:03:14
he's retiring soon. Did Canello do
2:03:16
enough to pick and choose yes
2:03:18
or no? That's because that's what
2:03:20
you said. You didn't say, oh,
2:03:22
Floyd did enough. You said Floyd,
2:03:24
didn't, you just say Floyd didn't.
2:03:26
No, no, it's a double-in sword.
2:03:28
You have a point, you have,
2:03:30
I think it could go both
2:03:33
ways. Yeah, he did do enough
2:03:35
to pick and choose. He earned
2:03:37
that, he earned that right. But
2:03:39
it's still heart wrench for boxing.
2:03:41
It doesn't fight. So then it
2:03:43
was heart-rent, that's what I want.
2:03:45
Nah, Keith Thurman was not a
2:03:47
Benavides level. Man, get the fuck
2:03:49
out there. I was beating a
2:03:52
drum for Keith. You think Keith
2:03:54
Thurman was Benavides level? You guys,
2:03:56
he was not, he lose. He
2:03:58
was one time, he was one
2:04:00
time with no injuries. Fuck out
2:04:02
here. Goodness. You're putting Keith Thurman's
2:04:04
vorosity on the same level as
2:04:06
a Benavides. You know, this is
2:04:08
what I'm saying. Yeah, but Marco,
2:04:11
listen, let's just, let's just, let's
2:04:13
just, let's just, let's just converse,
2:04:15
brother. You're saying that we're out
2:04:17
of our mind, but Keith was
2:04:19
the number one welts away and
2:04:21
unified. David has, what the fuck
2:04:23
you about to say? What's that
2:04:25
have to do with power and
2:04:27
ferocity being a number one, anything.
2:04:29
Did you not watch the fight?
2:04:32
Did you not watch him fight?
2:04:34
He didn't have power to you?
2:04:36
He was not getting it. He
2:04:38
wasn't at benefit as his left.
2:04:40
Well, go ahead John. Yeah, Marcos
2:04:42
made Donna literally duck the miss
2:04:44
on boxing scene. He literally says
2:04:46
his words Keith Thurman is not
2:04:48
a tuna. This is after Orlando
2:04:51
Laura. What are you talking about?
2:04:53
Like you don't even like you
2:04:55
didn't watch him fight. Whatever, whatever.
2:04:57
Well, there's no way. He showed
2:04:59
more like who got more skills.
2:05:01
Benavides or Thurman? Benavides. I'm done
2:05:03
talking to this guy. Look John
2:05:05
Cooper, $10. It's like Brown and
2:05:07
Jordan. Both are the biggest in
2:05:10
their era, but it's hard to
2:05:12
argue, go. Hold on, real quick.
2:05:14
Tony should be ashamed yourself. When
2:05:16
I said Benavides, you open your
2:05:18
eyes wide. Like I'm crazy when
2:05:20
that's your hometown man. Because he
2:05:22
understands styles. He understands styles. He
2:05:24
understands styles. Keith Thurman got more
2:05:26
tools in the fucking toolbox, but
2:05:29
it's okay. We can't talk about
2:05:31
it. Floyd would have beat the
2:05:33
shit out of. Okay, let me
2:05:35
ask you this. One more. That's
2:05:37
why we just comparing Thurman to
2:05:39
David. We're saying who would have
2:05:41
really beat Floyd. My dude, he
2:05:43
was a 20-something athletic power concert.
2:05:45
It's a yes or no question.
2:05:47
You think he would be Floyd?
2:05:50
Yes! Yes! He had three fights
2:05:52
with fucking Demetrius Andre and the
2:05:54
amateurs at fucking 54! Lloyd would
2:05:56
have shut him out at 12-0
2:05:58
probably. Cool, cool, cool. Come on.
2:06:00
And we needed to see it.
2:06:02
Just like, just like people want
2:06:04
to see Benavides Canello. We
2:06:06
needed to see it. We had
2:06:08
to see it, bro. Anna would
2:06:10
have did more numbers than Berto
2:06:13
Floyd. Way more. Way more with
2:06:15
the slick talking long hair don't
2:06:17
care. Yo, Marco, let me tell
2:06:19
you something. I used to say, and
2:06:21
I know, that's why I'm not a,
2:06:23
I'm not embarrassed. I'm not ashamed of
2:06:26
this. I used to say Thurman. Was
2:06:29
gonna be a new version of
2:06:31
Floyd the better version because he
2:06:33
was more of a talker he
2:06:36
can articulate himself wait Man, you
2:06:38
making all the faces, but you
2:06:40
know Keith Thurman is a fucking poet
2:06:42
man He was not yeah, and
2:06:44
he was not getting loose any
2:06:46
was knocking shit loose and he
2:06:48
can box the guy who barely
2:06:50
be Sean Porter. Are you guys
2:06:52
smoking meth amphetamines? Hey,
2:06:54
my brother and guess who never
2:06:56
fought porter Guess who what? How
2:06:58
the fuck that's down what it did.
2:07:01
If Madonna did what he did, how
2:07:03
to fuck a young Sean Porter
2:07:05
what it did to the boy up
2:07:07
the street as Ken Porter like to
2:07:10
call him? Call this ass out
2:07:12
his whole fucking career man bro styles
2:07:14
made vice man. He stood away from
2:07:16
Margarito He stood away from an
2:07:18
athletic German and he stood away from
2:07:21
a super duper football athletic Sean Porter
2:07:23
who could give you angles on
2:07:25
the inside Floyd Floyd like this on
2:07:27
the ropes. You're saying that's
2:07:29
gonna do a young porter The
2:07:32
guy who is, you think is the
2:07:34
biggest fighter of all time, ducked
2:07:36
people, is that what you're saying?
2:07:38
I just want to be clear.
2:07:40
I'm saying, I'm saying, right? What?
2:07:42
How did I change my tune?
2:07:44
Did CYP not just, did CYP
2:07:46
not just, did CYP not just
2:07:48
say that Tyson has, in his
2:07:50
opinion, has one legit win? Like,
2:07:52
what are you talking about? We,
2:07:54
we not arguing records, who
2:07:56
people, who people know. Now you and
2:07:59
I are having a... sub argument about
2:08:01
resumes and who the number one
2:08:03
contender was more of a threat.
2:08:05
And yes, I'm pretty sure most
2:08:07
boxing fans, most boxing fans are
2:08:10
gonna pick the dude, they got
2:08:12
all the tools in the tool
2:08:14
basket. The dude who, one tool
2:08:16
is athleticism. Another tool is his
2:08:18
legs. Another two his, his boxing
2:08:21
IQ. You talk about what the
2:08:23
Sean Portifite, my bro. The Sean
2:08:25
Portifite went like that because. Porter
2:08:27
is a dog, but look at
2:08:30
that shot he took in there
2:08:32
that combination left right from Thurman,
2:08:34
huh? Which is a combination, two
2:08:36
punches, not one shot Madonna, not
2:08:39
one shot old Mosley. We talk
2:08:41
of athleticism and you, everything we
2:08:43
want to see canelow in with,
2:08:45
everything we want to see canelow
2:08:47
in with, everything we want to
2:08:50
see canelow in with. Marco, one
2:08:52
Sean Porter arguably beating Earl Spence
2:08:54
until the knockout and he was
2:08:56
beating Terrace Crawford? Yes. So, I
2:08:59
mean, those are two great welterweights.
2:09:01
You won't think a younger Sean
2:09:03
Porter with Floyd, they're giving Floyd
2:09:05
problems, but Floyd would, would unanimous,
2:09:08
you deal. And it wouldn't be
2:09:10
a rematch. It wouldn't be a
2:09:12
rematch. If you thought Thurman was
2:09:14
tight, it wouldn't be a rematch
2:09:16
reporter. If it took a knockdown
2:09:19
late, which may weather don't have
2:09:21
many knockdowns at that age, it
2:09:23
took a knockdown late for Earl
2:09:25
for that fight to go his
2:09:28
way. Right. Like what do we
2:09:30
talk about? That's what I'm saying.
2:09:32
We diminished fighters, but I watched
2:09:34
those fights and that ain't gonna
2:09:37
happen here. I watched Thurman's career.
2:09:39
I watched Porter's career. Porter got
2:09:41
in there with everybody. He was
2:09:43
literally known in his era as
2:09:45
the test. You get in there
2:09:48
with Porter. We know what you
2:09:50
are. We know what you are.
2:09:52
Nah, no. And that's why the
2:09:54
win for Earl was so great.
2:09:57
Like, this is what I'm saying.
2:09:59
It's a triangle effect when you
2:10:01
start diminishing people. Porter was a
2:10:03
champion in the IDF. Calbrook beat
2:10:06
him, took the title home. Earl
2:10:08
went and got that. So we're
2:10:10
gonna diminish Porter? Because that's where
2:10:12
Calbrook started. He had to come
2:10:14
to America and I think that
2:10:17
shit was in LA where he
2:10:19
did a fucking huggy barefasts. I
2:10:21
hate that fight. Hate that fight.
2:10:23
UK people should have banded him
2:10:26
for that. All that god damn
2:10:28
holding. Yeah,
2:10:30
man. Keith, but I'm sorry. Go
2:10:33
ahead to him. I'll go. Yeah,
2:10:35
go ahead, huh? No, I wasn't
2:10:37
saying getting back to that Keith
2:10:40
Thurman, David Benavita's comparison. Marco, I'm
2:10:42
a big Benavides guy, but Keith
2:10:45
was that dude, man. And if
2:10:47
you really look at their resumes,
2:10:49
I mean, Keith was that dude,
2:10:52
man. And if you really look
2:10:54
at their resumes, I mean, he
2:10:57
was, he was blasting people out
2:10:59
when he was champion to these
2:11:01
guys point. That I don't know
2:11:04
I won't get into that but
2:11:06
we're not saying he beats for
2:11:09
it. We not saying he beats
2:11:11
for it. But let me throw
2:11:13
this other little thing that Doran
2:11:16
Floyd's career we used to like
2:11:18
to say as fans. He's avoiding
2:11:21
slick black fighters. He don't fight
2:11:23
black fighters. What the fuck is
2:11:25
Thurman? An athletic slick black fighter
2:11:28
with power. Back then. But let
2:11:30
me get to the streets. I'm
2:11:33
sorry streets. I know, I know
2:11:35
we've been talking like crazy. Janel
2:11:37
or Johnel, two dollars. Nice. Keep
2:11:40
it gangster. Jake, forehead will be
2:11:42
caved in. Oh, forehead. Oh, forehead.
2:11:45
Oh, because he put the number
2:11:47
four. No. Olas. My first of
2:11:49
all, when you look at the
2:11:52
pad word, he ain't even hitting
2:11:54
the pad the way to train
2:11:57
or want him to hit it.
2:11:59
We talk about Mike Tyson, he's
2:12:01
supposed, this is supposed to be
2:12:04
second nature. You can't even do
2:12:06
what the trainer acts in you
2:12:09
to do. And you, his. So
2:12:11
small listen they show Jake sparring
2:12:13
in the clip Watch the jab
2:12:16
be at work Watch and don't
2:12:18
forget his brother bloodline his brother
2:12:21
Logan sick jab. He just never
2:12:23
took the sport serious sick jab
2:12:25
But Jake got a good jab
2:12:28
which sets up the right hand
2:12:30
and don't forget This is what's
2:12:33
gonna happen. Jab upstairs jab in
2:12:35
that stomach eventually the right hand
2:12:37
You can see it on episode
2:12:40
one. That's what he's working on.
2:12:42
Jabbing. Jabbing from the outside. Jabbing
2:12:45
from the outside. You paint up
2:12:47
and down on my old ass.
2:12:49
He's old. My man had back
2:12:52
surgery. He had a broken vertebra.
2:12:54
Like y'all trippet. Man, this dude
2:12:57
is dunsky. He's somebody grandfathered. Big
2:12:59
Super Max $2. Floyd doesn't transcend
2:13:01
boxing. Stop it. Ness. Ness. Sure.
2:13:04
20 dollars, drop a bomb for
2:13:06
the dope. Two called that and
2:13:09
counterpunch, run it. But you ain't
2:13:11
even there, we talked so long,
2:13:13
I'm sorry, come on back. James
2:13:16
Manite's, five dollars, Sugar Ray Leonard
2:13:18
needed to do Tiktocks to regain
2:13:21
popularity. Floyd surpassed Leonard two decades
2:13:23
ago. Galaxy Studios, two dollars, two
2:13:25
dollars. A, that's me in the
2:13:28
screen twin, shout out hashtag TBV.
2:13:30
E-L or N, I don't know.
2:13:33
Two dollars, I'll leave, one billion
2:13:35
views, one fight, plus civil rights,
2:13:37
Nesz. James Menita's, ten dollars. Floyd
2:13:40
is the definition. Excuse me, excuse
2:13:42
me, excuse me. Floyd is definitely
2:13:45
bigger than both. He taught us
2:13:47
how to manage money and invest.
2:13:49
And belts don't keep us warm
2:13:52
at night, for it never looked
2:13:54
average in a fight. like Tyson
2:13:57
and Ali, dead. Very true. Floyd
2:13:59
never had that, that George Foreman
2:14:01
Ali night. He never had that
2:14:04
punch drunk night where he getting
2:14:06
beat pillar to post and got
2:14:09
a fake decision like, like, like,
2:14:11
blah, blah, blah, blah, like my
2:14:13
man, Lombardo Andrade versus, versus Lucien
2:14:16
Boutte. Or, oh, oh, or he
2:14:18
never looked like Tyson Fury. I
2:14:21
never look like that. No, but
2:14:23
Ali did, but Ali did, but
2:14:25
Ali did, but Ali did, but
2:14:28
Ali did, but Ali did, and
2:14:30
mother fucking Mike Tyson did. Fuck
2:14:33
out of here. Y'all pick him,
2:14:35
I got Floyd all day. T.
2:14:37
B. E. The best ever. And
2:14:40
that's why everybody wants to be
2:14:42
him. They don't want to be
2:14:45
Mike. They don't want to be,
2:14:47
they don't want to be frustrated
2:14:49
Mike. Shout out the Bel. That's
2:14:52
why I said that when he
2:14:54
could walk his kids to school
2:14:57
that will talk about greatness He
2:14:59
gonna walk his kids to school
2:15:01
with the bodyguards because he can
2:15:04
afford it He ain't got to
2:15:06
he ain't got to be doing
2:15:09
real fights. Let's stop this. That's
2:15:11
somebody's grandfather man His kids told
2:15:13
him he's kids told him we
2:15:16
don't want you to do this
2:15:18
shit But he said he's a
2:15:21
fighter. He said nothing nothing makes
2:15:23
him feel like this and I
2:15:25
can't get him No sir. Life
2:15:28
changing money for Tyson man. He's
2:15:30
getting a $20 million bag at
2:15:33
age 58. Lord. And the upside
2:15:35
is going to be crazy if
2:15:37
he could, you know, look decent.
2:15:40
What if they get a rematch?
2:15:42
Tyson was intimidating the fuck out
2:15:45
of Jake and that camera on.
2:15:47
Sit down. That shit was hilarious.
2:15:49
Call me a flowmo all y'er
2:15:52
I want, I know that Floyd
2:15:54
money. Mayweather never looked like Ali
2:15:57
or Tyson in any fight. He
2:15:59
never got... got drug around the
2:16:01
ring ever. Skills pay the bills
2:16:04
on me and he made that
2:16:06
phrase true in life. Everybody thought
2:16:09
you had to be this ridiculous
2:16:11
caveman fighter. Ford told you it's
2:16:13
about sweet science. Slick, hit, and
2:16:16
not be hit. Forced commentators to
2:16:18
learn how to commentate. Went the
2:16:21
war with Larry Merchant. Fuck out
2:16:23
here. Y'all better put some respect
2:16:25
on what that man did for
2:16:28
this sport. He allowed dudes like
2:16:30
Hicheson and Bruce Carrington to even
2:16:33
be relevant. Shakur would be no
2:16:35
one without Floyd, because the style
2:16:37
was damn near the fucking relic.
2:16:40
You said Bruce Carrington? That's right.
2:16:42
Limitates Mike Tyson's speeches after every
2:16:45
fight? Yeah, you can imitate Mike
2:16:47
Tyson's speeches. Who are you fighting
2:16:49
like? No, you're a highlight watcher.
2:16:52
That's right. Oh, oh, I'm a
2:16:54
highlight watcher. You know how I
2:16:57
don't watch it. That's LV slug
2:16:59
of $2. came in six pounds
2:17:01
heavy knocked out in two. Hashtag
2:17:04
Future Champion. Of course, only Marco
2:17:06
discredited him. My man, blue weight.
2:17:09
I said the jury is still
2:17:11
out. That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
2:17:13
yeah, the jury still out, but
2:17:16
you don't say, yo, you know
2:17:18
what? That was an amazing performance.
2:17:21
Due blue weight, he was, look
2:17:23
how he was punching before. Now
2:17:25
he don't got a struggle to
2:17:28
make weight. It's the same thing
2:17:30
I did with Ryan. Yeah, yeah,
2:17:33
yeah, yeah, ignore that he blew
2:17:35
that he was a was a
2:17:37
punch that he was a puncher.
2:17:40
Ignore that he don't got to
2:17:42
make the way nor that he's
2:17:45
gonna he's there's no struggle and
2:17:47
now discredit like come on bro
2:17:49
crazy DC three two dollars Michael
2:17:52
Jackson Michael Jordan Mike Tyson go
2:17:54
go go go sure sure hmm
2:17:57
raul two dollars Ali crawled so
2:17:59
Mayweather could run I hear you
2:18:01
Two dollars, Sylvester alone, might have
2:18:04
the most influenced shh, emoji. Smith
2:18:06
with the 10-hourless people who aren't
2:18:09
even in boxing wear Ali's shirts.
2:18:11
Tyson and Ali both have so
2:18:13
many movies and documentaries about them.
2:18:16
Tyson hasn't had a real fight
2:18:18
in 20 years and people are
2:18:21
hyped to see him fight. Yeah,
2:18:23
nostalgia, chocolate brownies, baby. Twin, $2.
2:18:25
Well said, C.Y.P. We got... Ruhan
2:18:28
if I before we need to
2:18:30
start being honest about Mike Tyson
2:18:33
as hardcore fans counterpunch for CYP
2:18:35
How the fuck you gonna send
2:18:37
that long ass message then say
2:18:40
counterpunch if you don't get your
2:18:42
ass out here? I'm giving them
2:18:45
half a minute for that Fuck
2:18:47
the discounted discounted counterpunch/fucking super chat.
2:18:49
We got CYP with the ten
2:18:52
hours He said catch
2:18:54
up and ask for the overridge.
2:18:56
We got DC three two dollars.
2:18:58
Damn it's getting smoky in this
2:19:00
bitch See what I'm saying the
2:19:02
smell is insane bro. Shit is
2:19:04
crazy. I don't know how you
2:19:06
sitting there smelling that man The
2:19:09
weed? Nah, I had a fire
2:19:11
in his crib yesterday. What? Yeah,
2:19:13
that's why I didn't do the
2:19:15
second show. Yeah, man. Yeah this
2:19:17
whole wall And then and then
2:19:19
smoke damage because it's central air
2:19:21
so fucking fucking my bed. I
2:19:23
can't believe that that was I
2:19:25
Literally just bought I don't even
2:19:27
want to say it because that's
2:19:29
some old man shit, but I
2:19:31
bought this dope-ass pillow burn like
2:19:33
ah It's gone. I mean it
2:19:35
ain't gone, but the fucking AC
2:19:37
the fire went through the dirt
2:19:40
and do it literally on my
2:19:42
bed So there was a fire
2:19:44
somewhere else and the events brought
2:19:46
it into you, the smoke? No,
2:19:48
the fire was here in the
2:19:50
studio, this whole wall got burnt.
2:19:52
What happened? What caused it? A
2:19:54
candle? Oh shit. Yeah, stupid, bro.
2:19:56
And it's always a candle, right?
2:19:58
But again, I just don't even
2:20:00
remember lighting it. I don't even
2:20:02
remember lighting it. I don't even
2:20:04
remember lighting it. So we went
2:20:06
to the movies, we took Tip
2:20:09
Bellis' advice, went to the movies,
2:20:11
we seen elevation. It was a
2:20:13
decent movie. I kind of knocked
2:20:15
it out, which I'm upset about,
2:20:17
but it was a good movie.
2:20:19
Shout out of Anthony Mackey. But
2:20:21
I've seen something even better last
2:20:23
night. I gotta figure out, maybe
2:20:25
go through my Netflix history and
2:20:27
see what was the name of
2:20:29
it. It was a phenomenal movie
2:20:31
last week. What was it about?
2:20:33
Let's see, can I remember? You
2:20:35
know, pothead. I just know it
2:20:37
was good. It'll come to me
2:20:40
because that's the short-term memory you
2:20:42
gotta work with. Get Max, get
2:20:44
on that penguin. Hang when they
2:20:46
finally made a villain show. I'm
2:20:48
gonna do that. I'm gonna do
2:20:50
that I told you, I told
2:20:52
you, I told you, I told
2:20:54
you, I told you, I told
2:20:56
you, I told you, I'm gonna,
2:20:58
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
2:21:00
binge it, I'm gonna binge it,
2:21:02
I'm gonna binge it, I'm gonna
2:21:04
binge it, I'm gonna binge it.
2:21:06
Get around to it, but yeah,
2:21:08
you're not the only one recommending
2:21:11
that shit. Everybody's talking about it.
2:21:13
And I'm a superhero guy, so
2:21:15
that's cool. We got DC3. Two
2:21:17
dollars. Tip Bella's gonna turn this
2:21:19
into a Thurman show. Laugh-out-loud emoji.
2:21:21
Seven thumbs up. Michael Ford, five
2:21:23
dollars. Tyson is like, Snoop dog
2:21:25
of boxing. My 10-year-old son knows
2:21:27
both of them, but not Floyd
2:21:29
and Jay-Z. Sure, you know he's
2:21:31
sending shots because he put Jay-Z,
2:21:33
you know what I'm saying? So
2:21:35
you know that's a personal shot
2:21:37
at me because I'm always overdosing
2:21:39
with the Jay-Z. I see you
2:21:42
Michael, I'm on to you though.
2:21:44
Twin with the fat ten island.
2:21:46
Two-toned saying imagine socials in Floyd
2:21:48
era. Mike Tyson is popular on
2:21:50
social media today and his big
2:21:52
age. Imagine Tyson having social media
2:21:54
back in his prime. Are you
2:21:56
crazy? The knockouts, the antics. Chill
2:21:58
will, two dollars. Spinal,
2:22:00
Mike voice, laugh out loud.
2:22:02
QB Step for $2. Floyd
2:22:05
versus Logan Paul was one
2:22:07
of the worst fights ever.
2:22:09
Yeah, one of the biggest,
2:22:11
I was there. Let me
2:22:13
tell you, let me tell
2:22:16
you, let me tell you.
2:22:18
Which, I don't know, I
2:22:20
probably said this. It's personal
2:22:22
information though, but that was
2:22:24
my best month up until
2:22:27
I moved to Vegas ever.
2:22:30
Oh you mean like talking about
2:22:32
the show and build up and
2:22:34
all that? I went to the
2:22:37
fight. I went to the fight.
2:22:39
I went to the fight. It
2:22:41
was like, it was like content
2:22:44
creator gold. It didn't matter what
2:22:46
you did, it just, it fucking
2:22:48
financially, fuck the numbers financially. People
2:22:51
were looking at it no matter
2:22:53
what. And it generated, they were
2:22:55
paying crazy. That was, I remember
2:22:58
it was August, it was insane.
2:23:00
And you know I'm a hustler.
2:23:02
Guess what nest did? I ain't
2:23:05
I ain't only work on my
2:23:07
channel. I work for Ben Thompson
2:23:09
and if I had to I
2:23:12
seen that spike I said nah
2:23:14
you want my shit too? Yeah,
2:23:16
I'm a hussler. I'm a hussler
2:23:19
baby Fuh, I don't know what
2:23:21
I talk about. Y'all can talk
2:23:23
that Tyson shit all y'all y'
2:23:26
y'all y' y'all y' y'all y'
2:23:28
y' y'all y' y' y' y'
2:23:30
y' y'all me Floyd' Call me
2:23:32
all you want. Floyd, Floyd, Floyd
2:23:35
boxing, man. He reinvented the shit.
2:23:37
In conquest, three dollars, the taxes
2:23:39
on that pillow, respect. You know,
2:23:42
I hope they give me my
2:23:44
shit. I'm gonna tell them, I
2:23:46
can't sleep with that. The smokers
2:23:49
in there. I need that shit.
2:23:51
New. Epic sleep, fun islands. Mike
2:23:53
Tyson has more viable moments, especially
2:23:56
recently when he thought the 24-year-old.
2:23:58
Hasbula was a baby and cuddled
2:24:00
him. But that's the, that's who
2:24:03
you, that's who you get. When
2:24:05
we get older we start to
2:24:07
cry and get emotional in touch
2:24:10
with our feelings and think of
2:24:12
family at 29 statistically the grown
2:24:14
man starts looking for homes and
2:24:17
marriage. Mike is 58 cuddling the
2:24:19
fucking grown man because he's still
2:24:21
on some grandfathers shit right now.
2:24:24
Come on man you see he'd
2:24:26
be petting motherfuckers with a closed
2:24:28
fist too. Don't act like y'all
2:24:31
ain't see these antics. Mike about
2:24:33
to get slept man, slept. I
2:24:35
hope he sleep with a nightline.
2:24:38
That's an inside shot. Are you
2:24:40
doing, are you doing the live,
2:24:42
like, hell, hell, yeah, hell, yeah.
2:24:44
Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
2:24:47
Hell yeah. Friday on Netflix on
2:24:49
a big screen, bro, what, I'm,
2:24:51
and Netflix ain't like, ain't like,
2:24:54
ain't like, the zone. I think
2:24:56
my wife could watch you, I
2:24:58
think multiple people could watch it.
2:25:01
Oh yeah, we're gonna be popping.
2:25:03
We're trying to give Jake and
2:25:05
Tyson, because it's still, chew, chew,
2:25:08
chew, I got that new AI,
2:25:10
Siri, she wowling, look, it's lighting
2:25:12
up. Chew, boo, yeah, nah, I'm
2:25:15
gonna have all the fucking, all
2:25:17
the fucking apps and everything. We're
2:25:19
gonna be popping. We trying to
2:25:22
give Jake and Tyson, because it's
2:25:24
still Tyson, too, but we trying
2:25:26
to give them a billion views,
2:25:29
fuck out of it. We need
2:25:31
boxing on Netflix, man. We need
2:25:33
Netflix in the game. Anything game,
2:25:36
bro. Like, what was, who used
2:25:38
that slogan? We in the game.
2:25:40
Was that E.A? E.A. Sports. Yeah,
2:25:43
sports. We need Netflix. We need
2:25:45
Netflix in the game, like E.A.
2:25:47
Galaxy Studios, two more dollars. Okay,
2:25:52
we could read that. Facts, Marco
2:25:54
gets mad and sad, defending Roy
2:25:56
all the time. Told you, your
2:25:59
boy galley's... he's pretty weird, man.
2:26:01
He's pretty weird. That's your boy.
2:26:03
Now that's your boy. You say
2:26:05
he'd be on your lives. That's
2:26:08
your man's. That's your man's in
2:26:10
them. Your man's in them. All
2:26:12
that, did I say counterpunch for
2:26:14
anybody? Because if not, we go
2:26:17
into the regular callers. Not to
2:26:19
say regular, but you know what
2:26:21
I mean. Just want to make
2:26:23
sure. I got to skate up
2:26:26
out of here, man. My dude,
2:26:28
let him know where they can
2:26:30
find you did you get that
2:26:32
hundred off? How many we got
2:26:35
man? I need I need I
2:26:37
need 45 more subscribers to a
2:26:39
thousand. Yo, let's go 45 people
2:26:41
can get that for my man
2:26:44
like what the hell? The hangout
2:26:46
spot DA don't hang out spot
2:26:48
on YouTube, man. I'm holding it
2:26:50
down for Florida here for TV
2:26:53
board. No, no, no Johnny's from
2:26:55
Brooklyn born and raised right now.
2:26:57
That's how you got to come
2:26:59
out here I'm holding down Florida
2:27:02
for TVB, baby, live fights, interviews,
2:27:04
make sure y'all check me out,
2:27:06
45 more, Ness. Let's go, let's
2:27:08
go, man. Yo, we almost there,
2:27:11
I'm out there. You straight Brandon.
2:27:13
So, Ness, you'd be pissing me
2:27:15
off sometimes. I don't be knowing
2:27:17
if you just playing Devils Advocate,
2:27:20
trolling or what. So you do
2:27:22
agree with, and by the way,
2:27:24
I agree with. in the other
2:27:26
guys. You do agree that there's
2:27:29
a difference between being the most
2:27:31
successful within the sport of boxing
2:27:33
and transcending and becoming a more
2:27:35
recognizable figure on the mainstream like
2:27:38
crossing over. Are you saying that
2:27:40
Floyd is a more recognizable mainstream
2:27:42
transcendent figure than Mike Tyson and
2:27:44
Muhammad Ali? First I would need
2:27:47
to ask you, do you remember
2:27:49
exactly what I said Jake said?
2:27:51
Because this is based off with
2:27:53
Jake. Say you say you yeah,
2:27:56
I don't want to do that
2:27:58
because we're gonna play semantics he
2:28:00
said I'm fighting one of the
2:28:02
two biggest fighters in the and what
2:28:04
the world or some shit I don't
2:28:07
know if he meant that anymore I
2:28:09
don't remember anymore well we got to
2:28:11
make that clear because that matters yeah
2:28:13
we have to make that clear because
2:28:16
if we talk about success in the
2:28:18
room remember anymore whatever I
2:28:20
said when I said it this morning though
2:28:22
it was on today's show I felt like
2:28:24
I felt like initially it was about
2:28:27
Well, we were talking
2:28:29
who was more transcendent,
2:28:31
who was more recognizable,
2:28:33
you know, polarizing, iconic.
2:28:36
I think I used the words
2:28:38
biggest ever. I think Jake
2:28:40
says something like, I'm fighting
2:28:42
one of the two biggest
2:28:45
fighters ever. And I'm assuming.
2:28:47
He said, yeah, I'm a. He man. Yeah,
2:28:49
when I'm assuming he met the
2:28:52
most polarizing iconic transient figures in
2:28:54
the sport of boxing and I
2:28:56
would have to agree those two
2:28:59
are way more polarizing iconic and
2:29:01
transcendent than Floyd Mayweather Nobody's
2:29:03
paying Floyd Mayweather or coming
2:29:05
out to see Floyd Mayweather stand
2:29:07
on the stage and tell his
2:29:09
life story and he's selling out
2:29:11
fucking Broadway shows doing that shit
2:29:13
He'd never transcend it like that
2:29:16
like they said earlier. There's no
2:29:18
movies about Floyd There's no
2:29:20
documentaries about Floyd. I mean, he
2:29:22
also tried. Let me talk. Let
2:29:24
me talk. Let me talk. Let me
2:29:26
teach. I went to the Madam Tucson
2:29:28
Wax Museum in Las Vegas.
2:29:31
They had wax museums
2:29:33
for all the iconic figures
2:29:35
of past and present. They only
2:29:37
only had two boxing wax figures
2:29:39
in there. You know, two those
2:29:41
two were? Tyson and
2:29:43
Ali, but no Floyd may weather
2:29:46
wax music, wax figure out the
2:29:48
madem tuzent. So yes, I don't
2:29:50
think he's more polarizing the iconic,
2:29:52
he never transcended. Like
2:29:55
DC 3 said earlier, I think
2:29:57
if we just talking crossover appeal,
2:29:59
the vest, Stallone is more
2:30:01
transcendent to the sport of boxing
2:30:03
than Floyd Mayweather. And even Don
2:30:06
King. Don King is more, Don
2:30:08
King is more polarizing, more transcendent,
2:30:10
been depicted in more films and
2:30:13
more TV shows, Simpsons. Only in
2:30:15
America is more popular than anything
2:30:18
Floyd's ever done. So. Yeah, there's
2:30:20
a difference between being iconic and
2:30:22
transcending and polarizing and then being
2:30:25
the most successful person in the
2:30:27
sport of boxing skill-wise and record-wise
2:30:30
and making the most money. Like
2:30:32
I said, nobody's paying top dollar
2:30:34
to go see Floyd may want
2:30:37
to stand on the stage and
2:30:39
tell his life story. I don't
2:30:42
know. Successful is, um, Mike Tyson.
2:30:44
Can you hear me? Yeah, yeah,
2:30:46
you came back. Yeah, I don't
2:30:49
think he's just he's just not
2:30:51
as polarizing. Yes, he was successful
2:30:54
in the sport of boxing, but
2:30:56
he wasn't iconic and I agree
2:30:58
with one of the last super
2:31:01
chatters Snoop dog is more transcending
2:31:03
an iconic and polarizing than Jay
2:31:05
Z He crossed over it's a
2:31:08
million people that have never heard
2:31:10
rap music if you put a
2:31:13
picture of Jay Z next to
2:31:15
a picture of Snoop dog and
2:31:17
asked the 80 year old white
2:31:20
woman who who who do she
2:31:22
knows she's gonna know Snoop dog?
2:31:25
Some guys might not be as
2:31:27
successful as other guys, but they
2:31:29
were more iconic and polarizing. Shaquille
2:31:32
O'Neal might have not been the
2:31:34
most, the greatest basketball player of
2:31:37
all time, but there are very
2:31:39
few basketball players that crossed over
2:31:41
to the point where Shaquille O'Neal.
2:31:44
People that don't watch basketball recognize
2:31:46
it should kill O'Neal. So I
2:31:49
don't think Floyd transcended to that
2:31:51
level. They George Foreman like I
2:31:53
said, but if we just talk
2:31:56
in boxing figures I would go
2:31:58
Ali Tyson Don King and Sylvester
2:32:01
Stallone have all been more transcendent
2:32:03
to the sport of boxing and
2:32:05
Floyd Mayweather But that doesn't take
2:32:08
away from the greatness. You just
2:32:10
got to be able to distinguish
2:32:12
the two and I feel like
2:32:15
that like I said with Snoop
2:32:17
dogs. There are very few rap
2:32:20
artists more transcending and polarizing the
2:32:22
Snoop Dog. He had a popular
2:32:24
exhibit at the Wax Museum, but
2:32:27
that's my call, man. That's just
2:32:29
my opinion. I'll let you get
2:32:32
to some other people. Yes, Snoop
2:32:34
Dog, the most popular rapper of
2:32:36
all time, most popular rapper of
2:32:39
all time, even over Tupop. And
2:32:41
Mike Tyson, Ali. They have transcended,
2:32:44
like they're the default answer to
2:32:46
boxing. If you're a guy that
2:32:48
don't know nothing about boxing, you're
2:32:51
gonna say, Ali, are you gonna
2:32:53
say Tyson? They're default. Curtis
2:32:57
use nameless. Yow. What up though?
2:32:59
What up though? Yow! What up?
2:33:01
What up? Hey, hey mess, you're
2:33:03
a silly guy, man. You talking
2:33:05
about people that want to be
2:33:08
like, Ali, huh? That's crazy as
2:33:10
fuck to say, considering the fact,
2:33:12
huh? Oh shit, the topic of
2:33:14
the show, Devin Haney returned. And
2:33:16
when we asked Devin Haney to
2:33:18
return, what was one of their
2:33:21
names I threw out there for
2:33:23
my nigger to return against? Who
2:33:25
do he come out dressed like,
2:33:27
mess? I call him the fake
2:33:29
ass. I think I think trees.
2:33:31
I think you need to educate
2:33:34
yourself and go find the interview
2:33:36
hold on Okay, go find the
2:33:38
interview that he did who we
2:33:40
he speaks very good English on
2:33:42
his interview with Broadway Joelle the
2:33:44
voice of Dominican boxing where he
2:33:47
says that PBC made him adapt
2:33:49
Ali made him do his style
2:33:51
like that and wanted him to
2:33:53
legally change his name to Ali
2:33:55
and he refused so try to
2:33:57
cut the shit. So let me
2:34:00
ask, so why, so, hey, so
2:34:02
let me ask for this. So
2:34:04
why, so why don't the leader
2:34:06
promotions? His last flight gang. Now
2:34:08
I don't think that wasn't TBC.
2:34:11
Why was gang coming up here
2:34:13
still on that Muhammad Ali shit,
2:34:15
bro? On that on that Clarissa
2:34:17
shield's undercard, bro. Because that's already
2:34:19
who he is. That's already who
2:34:21
he is. I thought, come on,
2:34:24
man. I don't think that's how
2:34:26
that's how that's how that's how
2:34:28
that's how that's how that's how
2:34:30
that's how that's how that's how
2:34:32
that's how that's how that's how
2:34:34
that's how that's how that's how
2:34:37
that's how that's how that's how
2:34:39
that's how that's how that's how
2:34:41
that's how that. The fact that,
2:34:43
what, the 50 years, what, 30
2:34:45
years later, that the fact that
2:34:47
PBC thought that that was still
2:34:50
work for, let's put the Muhammad
2:34:52
Ali Market on you. Got, let's
2:34:54
turn you into Mohammed Ali from
2:34:56
the Minicut. My brother, that's gonna
2:34:58
make. You're also forgetting that that
2:35:00
is one fighter. That's not influenced,
2:35:03
one fighter. We got everybody every
2:35:05
week, every Saturday and Friday doing
2:35:07
the showdero, bro. Floyd didn't invent
2:35:09
the shoulder roll. My man, that
2:35:11
shit is Ford Mayweather. Let me
2:35:13
ask you a question then. Does
2:35:16
Tim Bradley or any other announcer
2:35:18
for that matter ever say, oh,
2:35:20
look at him doing the Philly
2:35:22
show? Look at him doing the
2:35:24
Joe Freyshaw. And when people say
2:35:26
that, oh man, he really stinging
2:35:29
him with the jab. They're not
2:35:31
talking about Ali when they say
2:35:33
that. Or they not talking about,
2:35:35
oh he floats, or they not
2:35:37
say that, oh he's floating on
2:35:39
his toes. They don't say like,
2:35:42
people, no, no, no, no, no,
2:35:44
no, no. So you met, so
2:35:46
the man that you had Anthony
2:35:48
Sam on the show, not too
2:35:50
had Anthony Sam on the show,
2:35:52
not too long ago, we got,
2:35:55
oh, no, no, so you met,
2:35:57
the man that you had Anthony
2:35:59
Sam on the show, we didn't
2:36:01
see him putting up an Instagram
2:36:03
video trying to be like, Flicking
2:36:05
the jab on the bag, like,
2:36:08
and saying, and saying, this is
2:36:10
the Ali Jab. Oh, but, or
2:36:12
you're not helping your case, right?
2:36:14
When you don't listen, you don't
2:36:16
help your case. Nestor already said,
2:36:19
the only people trying to be
2:36:21
Ali is Anthony Sims, and he
2:36:23
was ineffective. and and Tyson theory.
2:36:25
Oh, but you just told me
2:36:27
that Michelle Rivera was one fighter,
2:36:29
but that's the point. That's what
2:36:32
I was in other fighters. When
2:36:34
we spoke about it, I mentioned
2:36:36
the two. You mentioned one. I
2:36:38
forgot. There's no way it goes.
2:36:40
Either way it go. Next you
2:36:42
told me that thing that was
2:36:45
the bell. It's about being Muhammad
2:36:47
Ali. That's the bell. And again,
2:36:49
we're talking about three fighters. Three.
2:36:51
Like I just said. We see
2:36:53
the Floyd Money Made Brother show
2:36:55
the role every single Friday and
2:36:58
Saturday. Every single Friday and Saturday.
2:37:00
His influence lives forever. Hate me
2:37:02
all you want, but they gotta
2:37:04
hate a truth teller. CYP with
2:37:06
the pound for pound status courtesy
2:37:08
of stainless courtesy of stainless. Hey,
2:37:11
y'all, y'all, y'all. Hey, y'all, I
2:37:13
heard Brandon say that Floyd hasn't
2:37:15
crossed over. Do you realize that
2:37:17
every planet, every solar system, every
2:37:19
country that they do boxing, somebody
2:37:21
is trying to fight like this
2:37:24
man who hasn't crossed over? Do
2:37:26
y'all realize that um, crossover actually
2:37:28
came from music when they say
2:37:30
you have a cross over with
2:37:32
music? Because they did all Negro
2:37:34
music and they have pop music
2:37:37
where it's white people? They say
2:37:39
you cross over when the white
2:37:41
people are dancing to your music.
2:37:43
Do you cross over when the
2:37:45
black people are dancing to your
2:37:47
music? That's crossover, Brandon, Mr. I'm
2:37:50
always good knowledge, learn definitions. If,
2:37:52
if. Filipinos, if Asians, if Africans,
2:37:54
if Europeans are shoulder rolling, that
2:37:56
means he crossed over, by definition,
2:37:58
smart ass when you're not smart.
2:38:00
I'm really starting to love this
2:38:03
little rivalry because you throw a
2:38:05
little side dance that are going
2:38:07
right at the source. You don't
2:38:09
know what cross over even means.
2:38:11
For one. Secondly, every basketball player
2:38:14
who could dunk had thought about
2:38:16
sticking their tongue out when they
2:38:18
dunking. Why? Because Michael Jordan has
2:38:20
crossed over. Every time a wide
2:38:22
receiver goes up over a defender
2:38:24
to catch a ball, everybody knows
2:38:27
what he thinks about. Randy Moss,
2:38:29
it's called a term. You just
2:38:31
got Moss. Because Moss crossed over.
2:38:33
An MMA, is McCon... It's Connor
2:38:35
McGregor bigger than John Jones? No.
2:38:37
Not an MMA. He is not.
2:38:40
If you beat John Jones, you
2:38:42
just be kind of McGregor. Like,
2:38:44
like, like goes on. If all
2:38:46
of y'all keep talking about everybody
2:38:48
want to see Mike, why did
2:38:50
y'all ignore the fights after Holyfield
2:38:53
that went a hundred thousand, one
2:38:55
hundred and fifty thousand buys? If
2:38:57
everybody loved Mike Tyson boxing, then
2:38:59
why don't they show up for
2:39:01
the boxing? Oh my bad, he
2:39:03
got to get up and tell
2:39:06
a story about his life, about
2:39:08
the cocaine and the girls and
2:39:10
the booze. Then you like Mike
2:39:12
Tyson as a boxer. You like
2:39:14
him outside of boxing. You like
2:39:16
him outside of boxing. You guys
2:39:19
can't separate the two. Two of
2:39:21
the most popular, biggest famous, wherever
2:39:23
they want to use, boxers in
2:39:25
the world. No, my cousin, I
2:39:27
wanted the two more popular boxes
2:39:29
in the world. That would be
2:39:32
Floyd Mayweather and Mohammed Ali. He's
2:39:34
one of the two most famous
2:39:36
people who have a box. Now
2:39:38
I'm going to leave y'all with
2:39:40
this shit since y'all think y'all
2:39:42
so smart. Is Will Smith the
2:39:45
most popular rapper of all time?
2:39:47
How come? How come you would
2:39:49
say no? He actually was wrapping
2:39:51
before he was wrappingpping before he
2:39:53
was a movie star before he
2:39:55
was a movie star before he
2:39:58
was a movie star before he
2:40:00
was a movie star. Is he
2:40:02
not the famous, one of the
2:40:04
most famous actors of all time?
2:40:06
Or are you going to link
2:40:08
wrapping to it because he actually
2:40:11
wrapped and continued to wrap and
2:40:13
wrap that like... four or five
2:40:15
albums. Which one is it? Because
2:40:17
I don't hear nobody talking about.
2:40:19
Oh man, that's not true. Will
2:40:22
Smith is bigger than Tupac. Will
2:40:24
Smith is bigger than Jay Z.
2:40:26
Nobody says that. Because we understand
2:40:28
it's two different careers. Mike Tyson's
2:40:30
career post, boxing, has made him
2:40:32
a big star. His boxing career
2:40:35
was very, very, very, very good.
2:40:37
But you saw towards the end,
2:40:39
he was doing 100,000. And he
2:40:41
was doing a million plus. Stop
2:40:43
playing with yourself. Mike Tyson don't
2:40:45
have to fight Roy Jones to
2:40:48
do a million. He ain't got
2:40:50
to fight Jake Paul to do
2:40:52
a million. He ain't got to
2:40:54
fight. He can fight John Guy's
2:40:56
a third. A third time. That's
2:40:58
the difference between boxing and popularity.
2:41:01
You guys are mistaking the two.
2:41:03
Mike Tyson can have a career
2:41:05
outside of boxing, man. You could
2:41:07
be famous. You're acting like everything
2:41:09
is linked to what you bring
2:41:11
you started. No, it's not. If
2:41:14
I'm lying. I'm going you may
2:41:16
feel like it's your tongue. But
2:41:18
it's not your tongue. He's a
2:41:20
abstract thinker, deep thinker. Alexy Y.P.
2:41:22
I love with him and Brandon
2:41:24
on the opposite sides of the
2:41:27
conversation. Jerry Soriano, you sent the
2:41:29
counter. We do not see you.
2:41:31
Do not see you. He's screaming.
2:41:33
We do not see you. We
2:41:35
got Coyote Blanco two dollars Marco
2:41:37
who winning Thanos with the stones
2:41:40
or David Benavides What's who's Thanos?
2:41:42
That sounds so familiar. Is that
2:41:44
from it? It's from Gardens of
2:41:46
the galaxy. Oh, oh, so he's
2:41:48
saying that I think Benavides is
2:41:50
so good. He could even be
2:41:53
the superhero. I got it If
2:41:56
you're watching this on YouTube, don't forget
2:41:59
to hit that thumbs up button and
2:42:01
if you have already subscribe please do
2:42:03
so I'm trying to get two million
2:42:05
subscribers right now I'm only at two
2:42:07
hundred and thirty three thousand five hundred
2:42:10
and twenty three so we got a
2:42:12
long way to go but we do
2:42:14
just need another five hundred measly five
2:42:16
hundred to get to the short-term goal
2:42:19
of two hundred and thirty four thousand
2:42:21
yes all right J. T I got
2:42:23
you my friend in the meantime in
2:42:25
between Tom we got Tip Bellis Tip.
2:42:29
Tip. Tip. Dallas. Yeah. Tone
2:42:31
is gone. It's me and
2:42:33
Marco. Oh, yes. For now.
2:42:35
Other guy. Other guy. Other
2:42:37
guy. Other guy. Damn. That's
2:42:40
rude. Yeah, man. That's rude.
2:42:42
Yeah. Now I mean, you
2:42:44
know, that, that Thurman talk
2:42:46
was rude. Yeah. Yeah. Get
2:42:48
him. Get him. Okay, okay.
2:42:50
Theremin ain't got more skilled
2:42:52
in David Benavita's. Marcos, like,
2:42:54
how do you even come
2:42:56
to this conclusion? With my
2:42:58
eyeballs. What is this? Like,
2:43:00
what about your, like, Marcos,
2:43:02
please tell me, this David
2:43:04
Benavita's even have the resume
2:43:07
of a Keith Thurman? That's
2:43:09
not his fault, that there's
2:43:11
nobody in his division. That's,
2:43:13
it's good. And the one
2:43:15
that is ran, like, like,
2:43:17
like, like, like Carl Lewis.
2:43:19
This is insane. Thurman doesn't
2:43:21
have the skill set of
2:43:23
a David Menovides, but Thurman
2:43:25
has the tough opposition on
2:43:27
his resume in which he
2:43:29
had to display a skill
2:43:32
set in order to beat
2:43:34
these guys. I'm confused here
2:43:36
Marco. I'm confused it. Like
2:43:38
we're talking about David Benovides,
2:43:40
a flat foot of fighter
2:43:42
versus Keith Thurman, a guy
2:43:44
who can box on his
2:43:46
toes. Misconception. What? David Benavides
2:43:48
can do everything. As stone,
2:43:50
I'm assuming you've been in
2:43:52
the fucking gym, I've seen
2:43:54
him spar alive, I'm... sure
2:43:56
you have that dude has
2:43:59
so many layers it's a
2:44:01
misconception when he has to
2:44:03
pull that shit out he
2:44:05
will and you'll see he
2:44:07
has good head movement has
2:44:09
good waist movement he could
2:44:11
pretty much do everything I'm
2:44:13
telling you I mean he
2:44:15
has a show everything I'm
2:44:17
telling you I mean he
2:44:19
hasn't shown us at least
2:44:21
no but he hasn't shown
2:44:24
us at least no but
2:44:26
he hasn't had to because
2:44:28
he could just walk these
2:44:30
dudes down and chop them
2:44:32
but once he gets into
2:44:34
a fight where he needs
2:44:36
to fight in anybody He
2:44:38
hasn't fought. No, he hasn't
2:44:40
fought the competition of Thurman,
2:44:42
but that's not his fault.
2:44:44
He's fighting everybody's division You
2:44:46
can't blame a fighter. You
2:44:48
know you blame him if
2:44:51
they're ducking people, but not
2:44:53
if there's just nobody there
2:44:55
This is great. We're gonna
2:44:57
see it in this David
2:44:59
Murrell fight man. Uh, and
2:45:01
then uh, yeah, yeah, we
2:45:03
don't steal Murrell, but at
2:45:05
that time Marco Keith Thurman
2:45:07
was Electrifying he was putting
2:45:09
people to sleep and he
2:45:11
was talking trash afterwards like
2:45:13
David I love David but
2:45:16
David sees you's doing this
2:45:18
tone because I'm a clip
2:45:20
this to show him go
2:45:22
ahead I'm nobody's thing he
2:45:24
was that's still a home
2:45:26
bro. No, if you put
2:45:28
if you put David Benavides
2:45:30
in a powerful pound and
2:45:32
Thurman should have been in
2:45:34
a powerful pound Well, all
2:45:36
I'm saying, I think the
2:45:38
conversation was David Benavides is
2:45:40
a threatening Dominant fighter more
2:45:43
so than Thurman That's what
2:45:45
I was saying, because my
2:45:47
time is about to run
2:45:49
up. He's saying Davis ain't
2:45:51
no punch make you oppose
2:45:53
it. Because it was. That's
2:45:55
your time can't let you
2:45:57
punch after the bell when
2:45:59
you put in hate on
2:46:01
the young King Kishon Davis
2:46:03
You don't got you yeah,
2:46:05
that's what he tried that's
2:46:08
the hate hatred he trying
2:46:10
to spew We got Quest's
2:46:12
what up? Quest I don't
2:46:14
know who that is but
2:46:16
I like that name Yeah,
2:46:18
540, 540. Yo, Ken. Yeah.
2:46:20
All right, baby, what's going
2:46:22
on, man? Shout out TV.
2:46:24
Is that seapone? Superstar. Mark
2:46:26
O'Graggy. What's the Dilly, yo?
2:46:28
Man. Floyd, maybe wherever he
2:46:30
is polarizing, but like he's
2:46:32
like polarizing to this generation,
2:46:35
you know what I'm saying?
2:46:37
Like a lot of boxes
2:46:39
want to be floored, you
2:46:41
know what I'm saying? Because
2:46:43
it's just like undefeated. You
2:46:45
know, he doesn't have a
2:46:47
loss, you know what I'm
2:46:49
saying? He's like, he's perfect.
2:46:51
But I don't think a
2:46:53
lot of normal people that
2:46:55
watches the sport wants to
2:46:57
be like Floyd. Because he's
2:46:59
like, he's like arrogant, you
2:47:02
know what I'm saying? Muhammad
2:47:04
Ali and Mike Tyson are
2:47:06
lifeable people. Those two people
2:47:08
are lifeable people, you know
2:47:10
what I'm saying? Even though
2:47:12
they lost a couple times
2:47:14
or whatever, they showed that
2:47:16
like they can get back
2:47:18
up and like show like
2:47:20
heart and just show like
2:47:22
no, no, just show no
2:47:24
quick, you know what I'm
2:47:27
saying? So when Floyd, it's
2:47:29
just I can't, yes, he's
2:47:31
popular and all that, but
2:47:33
it's like, I feel like
2:47:35
he's a greatest boxer, not
2:47:37
the most popular boxer. If
2:47:39
I had to say most
2:47:41
popular, I would have to
2:47:43
say Mike Tyson and Muhammad
2:47:45
Ali. guys tend to have
2:47:47
more, you know, I'm saying,
2:47:49
more. It's hard to explain
2:47:51
because like Mike Tyson, he
2:47:54
was on W. That niege
2:47:56
was on W. That niege
2:47:58
was on W. Like, you
2:48:00
know what I'm saying? Who
2:48:02
doesn't know who Mike Tyson
2:48:04
is? Who doesn't know who
2:48:06
Floyd was on there too?
2:48:08
Word, come on, man, with
2:48:10
the big show. Bro, Floyd,
2:48:12
he was not on there
2:48:14
when W. He was at
2:48:16
his peak. Mike Tyson was
2:48:19
on there when W.E. was
2:48:21
at his height. Well, W.E.
2:48:23
still the W.W.E. bro. I
2:48:25
mean, I mean, now they
2:48:27
got them sub channels with,
2:48:29
I think Terrence Crawford was
2:48:31
on an off-brand show, but
2:48:33
I mean, Floyd was on
2:48:35
that real shit. Yeah, Mike
2:48:37
Tyson was too. They had
2:48:39
a whole storyline with Mike.
2:48:41
I think Terrace Crawford didn't
2:48:43
have those storyline like these
2:48:46
dudes. Mike Tyson was on
2:48:48
there, he was really in
2:48:50
the storyline with Sean and
2:48:52
him, he was a ref
2:48:54
at one point, you know
2:48:56
what I'm saying? He was,
2:48:58
people know who Mike Tyson
2:49:00
is, people know who Muhammad
2:49:02
Ali is because he's just,
2:49:04
he's just the one that
2:49:06
started it. I can't give
2:49:08
it to, I can't give
2:49:11
it to Floyd. You're right
2:49:13
though, Floyd wasn't likable and
2:49:15
he never became our Nike
2:49:17
athlete. Well, Tyson became very
2:49:19
unlikable for a chunk of
2:49:21
his career too. Yeah,
2:49:23
it's just, Floyd's just different,
2:49:26
you know what I'm saying?
2:49:28
He just thinks he's too,
2:49:30
like, he's just too good.
2:49:33
Mike Harrison, I don't think
2:49:35
he gave me, you know
2:49:38
what I'm saying? I like,
2:49:40
I like all three of
2:49:42
them, but it's just, you
2:49:45
can't forget about my mom
2:49:47
and I leave, man. He's
2:49:49
like, it's your time. He
2:49:52
mastered the business of boxing,
2:49:54
but he refuses to tell
2:49:56
these young fighters that... You
2:49:59
gotta go through that shit
2:50:01
if you wanna get here.
2:50:03
He, like that's saying, he
2:50:06
don't want y'all to pass
2:50:08
him. So he's definitely gonna
2:50:10
tell you all the blueprint
2:50:13
how to get some money,
2:50:15
but legacy? No, he ain't
2:50:17
gonna give you that blueprint.
2:50:20
He don't want you to
2:50:22
pass. Let me tell you
2:50:24
something. So that's short. Remember
2:50:27
we had that conversation. Talked
2:50:29
about that specific like part
2:50:31
where I'm like where he
2:50:34
don't want you to pass
2:50:36
and people like you know
2:50:38
like they they agree with
2:50:41
that Yeah, with that But
2:50:43
uh Yeah, keep it in
2:50:45
moving. We got Jay Swiffy.
2:50:48
What up? I want to
2:50:50
hear this Yeah, it's old.
2:50:52
You know where age comes
2:50:55
knowledge, bro, the Bronx just
2:50:57
like you know, oh gee
2:50:59
Well Mogee not old school
2:51:02
Jay Swift you gotta unmute
2:51:04
I we gonna move on
2:51:07
I was reading something I
2:51:09
was reading something I was
2:51:11
reading something I was reading
2:51:14
something for you guys all
2:51:16
right, I was reading something
2:51:18
for you guys all right,
2:51:21
go ahead And you all
2:51:23
think that it was Floyd
2:51:25
that started this, correct? No,
2:51:28
we don't. No, we don't.
2:51:30
Okay. Okay. Okay. Exactly, Tony.
2:51:32
Tony. Exactly, Tony. Tony. Exactly,
2:51:35
Tony. Exactly, Tony. How the
2:51:37
fuck they bringing Tyson back
2:51:39
to his hood, Brooklyn, and
2:51:42
they got gnaws playing. Disgusted.
2:51:44
Bro, that's disgusting. That means
2:51:46
the executive producer doesn't know
2:51:49
about music and he had
2:51:51
fucking, he had, he had
2:51:53
fucking the iconic Mike Tyson
2:51:56
going through his neighborhood of
2:51:58
Brooklyn with a queen rapper
2:52:00
playing, man, what the fuck
2:52:03
type of shit. You think
2:52:05
they should play Jay? It
2:52:07
don't matter Jay. You got
2:52:10
plenty of Brooklyn nights, man.
2:52:12
What the fuck? It's Brooklyn.
2:52:14
It's, listen, you also from
2:52:17
New York too, you know
2:52:19
that there, that's beef, like,
2:52:21
burrow beef. Come on, specially
2:52:24
on wax? Especially on wax?
2:52:26
Not anymore. The Bronx, the
2:52:28
Bronx and Brooklyn have more
2:52:31
of a beef than Queens
2:52:33
and, um, Queens and, and,
2:52:35
and Brooklyn were a lot
2:52:38
more close to you. That
2:52:40
phrase go, you know where
2:52:43
you stop it. Something keeps
2:52:45
on taking it. Exactly, man.
2:52:47
That was two arrest one
2:52:50
that came out with that
2:52:52
from the Bronx. Yeah. All
2:52:54
right, but he said Brooklyn
2:52:57
taking it and Queens faking
2:52:59
it. Come on, man. Right,
2:53:01
right, right, right. Brooklyn taking
2:53:04
it. So you gonna have
2:53:06
Mike, the baddest man on
2:53:08
the planet getting wrapped to
2:53:11
a dude that's faking it.
2:53:13
I don't know if if
2:53:15
K.R.S. was talking about Naus
2:53:18
at that time. He was
2:53:20
talking about M.C. Chan. Yeah,
2:53:22
yeah, but not as Queen's
2:53:25
in general, be? Like, no,
2:53:27
you can't group everybody together
2:53:29
like that because Naus is
2:53:32
one of the greatest lyrics.
2:53:34
But it's still Tyson. Well,
2:53:36
okay. I mean, that that's
2:53:39
from Brooklyn he deserves to
2:53:41
say it. I understand what
2:53:43
you're saying, and I wouldn't
2:53:46
argue that point with you.
2:53:48
I would just let you
2:53:50
have that point, to be
2:53:53
honest with you. I wouldn't
2:53:55
argue that. because I mean
2:53:57
if you're doing a thing
2:54:00
on Mike Tyson, you feel
2:54:02
that you would have got
2:54:04
a Brooklyn rapper. Me, if
2:54:07
I was doing something on
2:54:09
Mike Tyson, I don't know.
2:54:12
I mean, it would be
2:54:14
different. Anyway, I wanted to
2:54:16
go back. You and do
2:54:19
anything on Tyson, they got
2:54:21
to be two-filed, bro. Tice
2:54:23
was a two-filed. Maybe. Yeah.
2:54:26
But anyway, look, I want
2:54:28
to get back to to
2:54:30
my call. If anything, you
2:54:33
had to put Madonna on.
2:54:35
Tyson was a Madonna. You
2:54:37
know, the dopist ringwalk never
2:54:40
had. Did he say she
2:54:42
wrote him a letter or
2:54:44
some shit when he was
2:54:47
locked up? Yeah, yeah. She
2:54:49
said she was coming to
2:54:51
visit him and she never
2:54:54
did come. And she used
2:54:56
to mess with Haitian Jack.
2:54:58
Madonna did she? Yes. Yes.
2:55:01
Madonna messing with somebody right
2:55:03
now. She. Oh, exactly. You
2:55:05
know, everybody thinks that women
2:55:08
have to be so sedated
2:55:10
and whatnot. No, women that
2:55:12
are really in the industry,
2:55:15
they be moving around. Because.
2:55:17
That's just the way it
2:55:19
is. But anyway, back to
2:55:22
the subject again. When you
2:55:24
guys say Floyd Mayweather started
2:55:26
the show the role, is
2:55:29
that what you're saying? No,
2:55:32
we said that he perfected
2:55:34
it. We didn't say he
2:55:37
started it. Oh, okay. That's
2:55:39
how we got into the
2:55:41
non-school. That's how we got
2:55:44
into the non-school. Because, you
2:55:46
know, one Duke can make
2:55:48
a hot song, but I
2:55:50
mean, let me get in.
2:55:53
Let me jump in. You
2:55:55
know, let me jump in.
2:55:57
We'll need the origin. as
2:56:00
the Philly cell are disputed
2:56:02
by its generally believed to
2:56:04
have originated in Philadelphia in
2:56:06
the early 20th century. So,
2:56:09
and then they go on
2:56:11
to say the people that
2:56:13
used to do the show,
2:56:16
the road back in those
2:56:18
days, one of them to
2:56:20
do his name was George
2:56:22
Benton, a defensive genius, okay.
2:56:25
a true master of the
2:56:27
show the role, one of
2:56:29
the long time, a long
2:56:32
line of fighters, George Benton,
2:56:34
considered by many as the
2:56:36
godfather of the Philly shell.
2:56:38
Okay? Hold on, hold on.
2:56:41
And then it goes on
2:56:43
to say a lot of
2:56:45
the fighters that did that,
2:56:48
but I, can I go
2:56:50
back to that? Okay. It
2:56:52
says a lot of the
2:56:54
fighters that did that. And
2:56:57
then when you talk about
2:56:59
it, James Tony was out
2:57:01
before Floyd Mayweather. And that's
2:57:04
where I discovered the shoulder
2:57:06
row because James Tony used
2:57:08
to do it. So you're
2:57:10
popularizing Floyd Mayweather. I understand,
2:57:13
but at the same time,
2:57:15
James Tony was boxing way
2:57:17
before Floyd Mayweather, and he
2:57:20
was doing the show. So
2:57:22
I thought it was, I
2:57:24
think it's a great topic
2:57:26
when you guys come up
2:57:29
with stuff like this. I
2:57:31
wasn't even going to call
2:57:33
in. But I'm like, wow,
2:57:36
that's, it's kind of neat
2:57:38
that you guys can pick
2:57:40
up. portions of boxing history.
2:57:42
I think that's kind of
2:57:45
neat. I think a lot
2:57:47
of kids would be intrigued
2:57:49
by the show. So anyway,
2:57:52
but there's a whole lot
2:57:54
of them that did the,
2:57:56
let me see if I
2:57:58
can. probably can't go back
2:58:01
to it. No, not anyway.
2:58:03
Shout out to Saint, you
2:58:05
need to hear this. When
2:58:07
you, yeah, Saint said when
2:58:10
you back down and turn
2:58:12
around jump shot into the
2:58:14
trash, you don't say Kobe
2:58:17
or Jordan, you. You don't
2:58:19
say the guy who invented
2:58:21
the turnaround, you say Kobe
2:58:23
or Jordan, so you know
2:58:26
what I'm saying? It's who
2:58:28
perfected it, that's all we,
2:58:30
we, it don't matter who
2:58:33
invented it, it don't matter
2:58:35
who did it, all it
2:58:37
matters is who the public
2:58:39
perceives to have done it
2:58:42
the best, and who is
2:58:44
that style? That style isn't
2:58:46
the Bobby Benton, it isn't
2:58:49
the Eddie Fudge, it isn't
2:58:51
George, it isn't, it isn't,
2:58:53
it isn't, James Tony, who
2:58:55
was getting punched, it's the
2:58:58
man who took the style,
2:59:00
and he did it, listen,
2:59:02
understand that he did it
2:59:05
so well, that we can
2:59:07
count the times he got
2:59:09
hit. Like we know. We
2:59:11
remember Emmanuel Gustus, we remember
2:59:14
Sugar Shame Mosley and we
2:59:16
remember Madonna. Right? Because no
2:59:18
one can tuts touch this
2:59:21
man. That, he is the
2:59:23
shoulder row, but that's the
2:59:25
bell. Thank you for calling
2:59:27
in. All right. We got...
2:59:30
Counting poorly. Counterpunch. Jerry. Sorry
2:59:32
I know. Let
2:59:34
him cook! Let him
2:59:37
cook! Feliz Montes Amigos!
2:59:39
And I'm here to
2:59:42
set the record straight
2:59:45
to the scientist of
2:59:47
the boxing voice. C-Y-P,
2:59:50
Dr. Googler. You know,
2:59:52
I was going to
2:59:55
start off on saying
2:59:58
you from Kelly.
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