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4:01

voice radio Which I thought

4:03

y 'all one gonna see

4:05

me. Oh, no This shit

4:07

don't stop man. We all

4:09

day with it Straight off

4:11

the block with it. You

4:13

feel me we here to

4:15

discuss the zoo conference that

4:18

took place. You know some

4:20

saying it looked low budget. Some

4:22

saying Charlo might have been chucking

4:24

back on grandpa's old stash if

4:26

you know you know. That's what

4:28

they saying though. I don't know.

4:30

I wasn't there. I

4:32

do got the clips. We did watch it so

4:34

we make an opinion but

4:37

I don't know if Jermell was

4:39

intoxicated. It sounds like he's

4:41

just got a new found fire.

4:44

You know, that's what it looks

4:46

like looks like he got that

4:48

fire lit underneath him and he's

4:50

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4:52

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music. But hey, breakfast couple boxing, you

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hop and boxing, those are

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That's why we got those

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great ring walks, right? Because,

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you know, rappers and

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boxers, they're one and the

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the same, but it becomes

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even better when the

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that hip hop territory, pick

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up some of that hip

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hop love. My

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man did whole

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verses. With guys

6:21

like Rick Rawls and shit

6:23

man. So shout out a

6:25

B a B, you know,

6:28

um So they had a

6:30

press conference via zoom for

6:32

the Kella plant Jose Armando

6:34

Resendi's card. So let's just

6:36

give you the let's just

6:38

show you what that looks

6:41

like man. Let's just show

6:43

you what that looks like

6:45

and We'll go to the

6:47

screen share So First and

6:49

foremost, we

6:52

got Caleb Plant, zoom that

6:54

up. We got Caleb Plant 23

6:56

and 2, taking

6:58

on Jose Armando, Rosendies, 15

7:00

and 2 with 11 KOs.

7:02

So he's got a good

7:05

knockout ratio, Caleb Plant, coming

7:07

in with 14 KOs. Next

7:10

up, we got Jermell, Charles

7:12

33 and 0 with 22

7:14

KOs, perfect record. 11

7:17

of those opponents did

7:19

not get knocked out.

7:22

Thomas Lamana, 39

7:24

wins, 18 big KO's,

7:26

five losses, three coming

7:28

by, knockout and one

7:31

draw. Then they have

7:33

Kyrom Davis, 19 and three with

7:35

one draw, six KO's. Ben Stopp

7:37

once at the hand of Benavidez,

7:40

taking on the

7:42

100 % knockout ratio,

7:44

punching Yonelli. Hernandez,

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7:57

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7:59

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Cuban We got

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nitty nitty nitty

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nitty gritty shout

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out thrill boxing

8:28

for clipping it

8:31

clippy clippy See

8:33

why people think

8:35

he drunk he's

8:38

slurring the words

8:40

and I'm

8:45

gonna show you how

8:47

much emotional I am

8:49

You see I'm gonna

8:52

show you how much

8:54

I'm sorry, bro. I

8:57

Enjoyed the passion between the fighters.

8:59

So it's all good You but

9:01

what do you think you've actually

9:03

gotten better at in the ring

9:05

in those nine fights? Bomb,

9:13

yo, you doin' my man conflict,

9:15

sucio. You

9:18

a fuckin' bomb.

9:21

You a fuckin' bomb. You a

9:23

fuckin' bomb. You a

9:25

fuckin' bomb. You a a

9:27

fuckin' fuckin' bomb. bomb. You a fuckin'

9:29

bomb. bomb. fuckin'

9:32

bomb. You

9:34

a fuckin' bomb.

9:37

a fuckin' bomb. You a fuckin'

9:39

bomb. bomb. bomb. Yo, yo, there's

9:41

there's some. Oh, no, guys. Yo,

9:43

so Sean, answer your question. Um, this

9:47

might, um, experience, right?

9:49

I mean, everything, every single day. Yo,

9:55

he's shinin' on Thomas. I ain't goin' in

9:57

front, but you know, real ones is

10:00

axin' themselves. Why he ain't act like that

10:02

with Kayla Plant? But

10:04

I love how he bullyin',

10:06

you know, Thomas Lamana. That's up

10:08

to Thomas Lamana. to not

10:10

let himself be bullied, but

10:13

definitely up to us to ax

10:15

ourselves. Why he ain't keep this same

10:17

energy with, gala black, gala

10:19

black. You're okay.

10:21

Facts, you're right. All right, so

10:23

Sean, everything you understand, you're

10:26

right. You get better, you get better. Time,

10:28

you know I mean? The

10:31

best lesson in life is experience, I guess,

10:33

right? So,

10:35

whatever, you know I

10:37

mean? These fights were best, oh shit, sorry guys. He

10:43

got my man cornflake nervous nervous man.

10:45

I'm gonna have to get cornflake on

10:47

the show ask him what the fuck

10:49

happened man. He let Charlo get make

10:51

him nervous But you know you got

10:53

comfortable yeah, I saw more in two

10:56

years If you were at let's say

10:58

you're at 100 % when you when

11:00

you knocked out Julian Williams or when

11:02

you beat Derevi and Chanko What are

11:04

you at right now compared to then,

11:06

and what were you after the Jose

11:08

Benavidez fight you feel? Right

11:13

now, technically,

11:17

honestly

11:20

speaking, I'm

11:24

back at

11:26

100%. I

11:28

feel stronger,

11:31

I feel better, I feel Uh...

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only in theaters. No, I'm

11:52

absolutely mad. Like, the team is

11:54

better. Um...

11:56

Um, everybody around

11:59

me is like... like

12:01

everything is everything

12:03

is something like

12:05

like perfectly you

12:07

know like he's

12:09

sitting back on

12:11

my back like

12:13

I got them

12:15

I got them

12:17

on like I'm

12:19

better yeah I

12:21

had some I

12:23

had some like

12:25

you know Again,

12:43

I'm not trying to insinuate

12:45

he on them, but do

12:47

y 'all like is that just

12:49

the way he talk like

12:51

that's the way he sound

12:53

or You know What

12:55

people insinuating is

12:58

there some truth

13:00

to it? gonna

13:25

show you how much emotional I am. All

13:28

right. You're right. I'm sorry, bro. I

13:31

enjoy the passion between the fight. But

13:37

Salute to Jamal, Charles America's word is

13:39

bar. We locked in now. You

13:42

know, we locked in. We here for

13:44

the shit, but this is Kella plant

13:46

also taking shots at Thomas. I don't

13:48

know. Thomas is the punching bag now,

13:50

man. I don't know what's going on

13:52

for real, for real. We

13:55

got to get Thomas on here man.

13:57

What's what's going on champ They take

13:59

in turn mean you're cool. I mean

14:01

you're cool. We never had no issues

14:03

But I'm gonna ask you respectfully to

14:05

shut the fuck up and let me

14:07

do my thing. All right Mean you're

14:10

cool. mean you're cool. We never had

14:12

no issues But I'm gonna ask you

14:14

respectfully to shut the fuck up and

14:16

let me yeah That's wild He

14:18

said, yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt after my man

14:20

told you shut the fuck up. How are you

14:22

going to say me and you are cool? We

14:24

never had no issues, but you're going to ask me

14:27

to shut the fuck up. You

14:29

clearly trying to punk me live, man. It's

14:31

wild the way they be acting with each other.

14:34

I don't understand it because you know, is

14:36

it all entertainment? Is there like this

14:38

unwritten rule like, look, we allowed to do

14:40

and say what we need to do

14:42

and say to build up the fight. You

14:44

know I'm saying? Right

14:47

like is because if if is

14:49

this this if there is this

14:51

unwritten rule then cool The gloves

14:53

is all the love is done. Everybody

14:55

get to say what they want

14:57

because it's all in fun But

14:59

Damn, you know if I ain't

15:01

never disrespect you and you ain't

15:03

got no problems with me Why would

15:05

you just go ahead and disrespect

15:07

me live for everybody to see

15:09

everybody to repose? I

15:11

don't know Thomas out here He

15:15

the butt end of the joke man.

15:17

He the butt end of the joke

15:19

man. He gonna have to tighten up

15:21

get motherfuckers to respect them. Yeah, let

15:23

me do my thing. All right, let

15:25

me know but we got more man

15:27

Let's see which one is it this

15:29

one? Let's hope it

15:31

ain't the same one though Whatever

15:33

man, I'm man. I'm man.

15:35

gonna get to my fucking head

15:37

right now, but he's not

15:39

he's like he sounds like a

15:41

fucking weirdo, bro do like Chill

15:47

um, I hope I answer

15:49

your question Sean just you

15:51

know, it's um Make me

15:54

chill. I and make me

15:56

chill make me make me

15:58

shut up. Hey, yo, Thomas

16:00

fumbling the words Damn Thomas.

16:02

Come on. New Jersey stand

16:05

up. It's um Make me

16:07

chill. I and make me

16:09

chill make me make me

16:11

shut up Make

16:14

me shut up then come on

16:16

time. He didn't tell you to

16:19

shut up That was thank you

16:21

very much for those questions on

16:23

and thank y 'all to both

16:25

Jamal and Thomas They got my

16:27

man Thomas sweating up there man.

16:29

That's unfair. What they doing to

16:31

him The butt end of the

16:33

joke man, hold it down Thomas

16:35

is all good man. New Jersey

16:38

stand up. This is what we

16:40

talk about The Jermel Charlo Thomas

16:43

Lamana, Zoom press conference,

16:45

the Keller Plant, and Armando

16:47

Resendi's Zoom press conference.

16:49

So if anybody wants to

16:51

call in and give

16:53

their thoughts on what took

16:55

place today, feel

16:57

free, man. Keller Plant

16:59

and I quote, expect

17:02

fireworks. Me and

17:04

my team have been grinding hard. And

17:06

once that bell rings, I'm

17:08

gonna step on them. Hey

17:12

man, listen, the good thing that Rizendi's got going

17:14

for him is he got a little bit of pop.

17:16

At least those numbers claim that he

17:19

has pop. Maybe since we seen,

17:21

you know, Charlie, excuse me,

17:23

Plant get put down by McCumbie

17:25

and others. Maybe Rizendi's could

17:27

give us a little bit of action.

17:31

Plant goes on to say and I

17:33

quote, Armando thinks he can beat

17:35

me and that's enough to piss me

17:37

off. He knows what's coming

17:39

to him. I'm

17:42

not gonna be distracted from

17:45

the fight that's in front of

17:47

me. It's

17:49

happened so many times where fighters get

17:51

so worried about the next fight and

17:53

they don't win the fight in front

17:55

of them. I'm not letting that happen.

17:57

Armando is coming to take my spot,

18:00

but I'm not gonna let that happen.

18:02

The first thing on my mind is

18:04

to put on a great performance on

18:06

May 31st, birthday. I

18:08

want Charlo, Edgar Belonga, Jaime

18:10

Mungiga, Diego Pacheco, anyone

18:12

else who's up there. Then

18:14

I'll end up where

18:17

I'm supposed to be. I'm

18:19

gonna pick them off

18:21

one by one. Some

18:23

fighters lose and they lose

18:25

their confidence. It shattered. Maybe

18:28

their confidence was fake to

18:30

begin with. A loss has never

18:32

made me think I couldn't

18:34

do what I'm capable of. I

18:36

take those experiences and learn

18:38

to make adjustments, which a lot

18:41

of fighters aren't able to

18:43

do. Shout out, Caleb Plant, talking

18:45

about Belonga. We all know Belonga took

18:47

that loss, and he did not lose

18:49

his confidence. He leveled up on confidence,

18:51

right? So much so, y 'all starting

18:53

to hate my boy out here in

18:55

the streets, man. Listen, if

18:57

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champ? What's popping community? Man

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another day another podcast

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giving up gearing

19:58

up to get your

20:01

Natalie Hernandez on

20:03

the show. Oh

20:05

Shit, so I came just in time to

20:07

translate. Yeah. Yeah.

20:10

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man.

20:13

It's either you or

20:15

Caesar Sether. Caesar

20:18

said I was actually on

20:20

this virtual press conference. I was

20:22

on virtually as well. I

20:24

jumped on virtually and I raised

20:26

my hand. Now, I

20:28

raised my hand to ask them, but you

20:30

know how that was planned. Yeah, that's a

20:32

popularity contest, you know what I mean? Oh,

20:35

yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly.

20:38

Michael Coppinger of ESPN.

20:40

Michael Coppinger of ESPN. Mm

20:43

-hmm. But Seysa said I actually got a

20:45

question up in there, and it was

20:47

a ruffled Caleb Plant's feathers a bit. What'd

20:49

he say? What'd he say? He

20:51

was trying to say, he was trying to

20:53

make the comparison like, you know, you got, you

20:55

know, your last fight, you faced adversity, you

20:58

went down against McCombie, you know, even though, you

21:00

know, you did what you needed to do.

21:02

But what if that was to happen, you

21:04

know, against this guy who's strong, who's

21:06

younger. But, you know, that's

21:08

what he was trying to say, but

21:10

he kind of fumbled it around a

21:12

bit. And I think it agitated Caleb

21:15

in ship, but. Yeah,

21:17

yeah, he was able to get

21:19

a question in man. I wasn't but

21:21

uh, but it was uh, it

21:23

was an eventful press conference man Yeah,

21:25

we watching we watching the highlights

21:27

man. Charlo Charlo got uh, he spasmed

21:29

out man. He spasmed out. What

21:31

was your highlight? What was your highlight?

21:33

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who doesn't do highlights on a press conference?

22:15

You well, and you got to watch a

22:17

press conference in the beginning to the end.

22:19

I was on it. I did it.

22:22

I mean, you know, you can't

22:24

but you don't have to is what

22:26

I'm saying. Man,

22:28

you lucky to tour in here because I don't know. Man,

22:31

the announcers talking like, who was

22:34

the announcer? It was

22:36

the Spanish guy. Yeah,

22:40

yeah, yeah, it was him. He was

22:42

the other guy. I wonder what happened to

22:44

the other floor as the first one, right?

22:46

The fuck? He just disappeared. Yeah, nah, it

22:48

was the other one. It was the one

22:50

that's been doing the recent shows. He was

22:53

the moderator, but you got to watch the

22:55

whole thing next. I've seen Sean Zatel got

22:57

a question. He got

22:59

the best question. He the one got,

23:01

he the one got Charlo to

23:03

get all, you know, frustrated, frustrated. So

23:06

it's crazy because And this

23:08

is why I tell you, Charla

23:10

was clearly intoxicated, man. I

23:12

don't know how you don't see

23:14

that. The chat was cooking

23:16

them live. I was watching it

23:18

because... sound like you were slurring

23:20

some words though. Yeah,

23:22

but if you look at his many

23:24

rhythms, like I see, I know what

23:26

a drunk dude looks like, bro. Oh

23:28

yeah? Do you work, do you work

23:30

at AA Anonymous? Are

23:33

you a counselor? Let's

23:35

just say this, bro. I've been around

23:37

enough in my days to know what

23:39

a drunk dude How long has it

23:42

been since your last interaction with a

23:44

drunk? With a

23:46

drunk? I would say when I lived in

23:48

Pennsylvania, maybe like three or four years ago, man.

23:50

That's a long time. 48 months, bro. Well,

23:52

I ain't got no friends here in Florida, man.

23:54

All my friends was back in the Northeast, bro. You

23:57

sound like my dad when my dad

23:59

moved to Florida. He's like, man. I ain't

24:01

got nobody over there. I'm like, dad,

24:03

get in the fucking car, man. Go somewhere.

24:05

What you think was the driving force

24:08

for me to start doing this shit in

24:10

the first place? I needed a damn

24:12

hobby, bro. So

24:14

you already retired. That's what it is? No,

24:17

I'm not retired. I wish I was.

24:19

But I live in a town. And

24:21

if you come out here and you check

24:23

me, you're going to see I live around

24:25

retired people. No, no, no. That's not what

24:28

it is for me, too. My Florida city

24:30

is no different. But you

24:32

make it seem like you started, you know, the

24:34

hangout spot because you ain't had nothing to do.

24:37

Nah, you know, for me, it was just work.

24:39

Work and errands and just, I needed something

24:41

different, you know I'm saying? Like when I lived

24:43

in the Northeast, I used to play football

24:45

on the weekends. I used to play softball. Johnny,

24:47

Johnny, Johnny, Johnny, Johnny, Johnny, stop. I mean,

24:49

when you was in the Northeast in high school,

24:51

bro, come on, you ain't played football. No,

24:53

bro, hell no. Johnny, you ain't

24:55

played football in 25

24:57

years. My

24:59

brother. My brother, I fucked

25:01

up a knee. I had a knee surgery

25:03

probably like in high school. No,

25:06

bro. Maybe like 12 years ago,

25:08

bro. Like I was doing that

25:10

shit up. Like you, you mad

25:12

disrespectful, bro. Respectful.

25:19

Real man. Yo, I was athletic, bro.

25:21

Like I played football. I was that

25:23

dude, bro. Like, yo, do I got

25:25

to remind y 'all in the chat like,

25:27

yo, this. What's up, man?

25:29

What's going on, man? What's

25:32

going on with my man Ness

25:34

here? But yo, Pharrell, man, Pharrell, you

25:36

said earlier why why Charlo didn't

25:38

have the same energy for plant. That's

25:40

because he wasn't intoxicated when he

25:42

when he when he stepped up the

25:44

plant, bro. You already know, bro,

25:46

an intoxicated person is is going to

25:48

play that tough guy role, bro.

25:50

He was definitely intoxicated, man. If I

25:52

had a bet money, I believe

25:54

he was because there was one point

25:56

before that I would say about

25:59

three or four minutes before that He

26:01

was actually given like Lamana like,

26:03

you know, I got nothing against you,

26:05

you know You know, I just

26:07

you know, I just want you to

26:09

be alright after this like he

26:11

was very very Molotow man saw spoke

26:13

and then all of a sudden

26:15

he just went from zero to a

26:17

hundred real quick bro, and it

26:19

was like I think he caught cornflake

26:21

off guard and some people just

26:23

aren't good trash talkers, bro. Some people

26:25

aren't good at the back and

26:27

forth. You got to be

26:29

quick with it. I'm from the Northeast,

26:31

so I grew up in a neighborhood where

26:33

we used to rank on each other. You

26:36

had to be quick with it. I

26:39

don't think Thomas grew up in that

26:41

type of atmosphere, bro. But

26:47

maybe he's just afraid of Charlo because

26:50

you know, I heard the stutter in and

26:52

all that shit, you know Like maybe

26:54

maybe and that's not a good thing at

26:56

all. You feel me? So I'm asking

26:58

bro because I'm actually gonna highlight him later

27:00

on bro. He gonna jump on with

27:02

me later on In the uh later on

27:04

in the night when when I go

27:06

when I do my shit he gonna jump

27:08

on I'm actually asking about that, but

27:10

you know, um Charlo was

27:12

out of control, bro. I mean, I'm concerned, man. I'm

27:14

concerned about Charlo. I got to be honest with

27:17

you, bro. Like, is he all the way back? You

27:20

know, is he right? He did not

27:22

look right, man. And if y 'all in the chat, man,

27:24

y 'all seen it, bro, let me know. But you

27:26

got to watch the whole thing. Like, you got to

27:28

watch the mannerisms. You got to watch the way he

27:30

was blinking his eyes. Like, he looked like he was

27:32

half asleep. Yo, Cezanne, jump on. You're going to have

27:34

to translate, bro. Oh, man. You

27:36

said you was practicing. Don't be scared

27:38

now. You

27:40

trying to

27:43

ruin

27:45

the brothers

27:47

credibility

27:50

bro before

27:52

we

27:54

even get

27:56

popping How

28:01

are you? your

28:04

name? It's Yonelli.

28:06

Oh, Yonelli. Yonelli?

28:10

He doesn't listen me. Tell

28:15

me, tell me.

28:17

How are you?

28:20

It's Yonelli. Yoen

28:23

Lee, yoen Lee. Oh, yoen Lee, yoen Lee. So yo,

28:25

yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

28:27

yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

28:29

yo, yo

28:49

Obviously, I'm letting him know that Caesar's not

28:51

here yet. He's supposed to be my translator.

28:53

And I'm letting him know I obviously talk

28:55

Spanish. The issue is

28:58

translating and interviewing isn't the

29:00

easiest thing. So what I'll

29:02

do is let Johnny drive

29:04

the car. I'll be the

29:06

translator until Caesar jumps on. So,

29:10

Johnny, anything you got? No,

29:16

just basically, I want

29:18

to just congratulate him,

29:20

obviously, on his recent

29:22

victory. And I want

29:24

to give him props because he started to

29:26

make a lot of noise early in a

29:28

very, very young career. What's

29:31

his plans going forward for his

29:33

next fight? Bueno,

29:36

dice el compañero mío, Johnny,

29:38

que quiere darte la gracia por

29:40

venir en el programa y

29:42

felicitarte por todo lo que tú

29:44

has podido lograr en este

29:47

momento, pero espérate, yo creo que

29:49

es César. Muchas

29:51

gracias, muchas gracias por dame la oportunidad

29:53

hasta la cara, es la primera vez que

29:55

estoy aquí, muchas gracias. César,

29:58

¿cómo estás? Buenos días. Buenas,

30:00

buenas, buenas. ¿Cómo ustedes? Buenas,

30:02

buenas, buenas. So,

30:05

obviously, you take over, man. I did the

30:07

best I can while you were there. I

30:09

already let him know that you're going to

30:11

be translating. So, yeah, man, Johnny was just

30:13

saying that he wanted to, you know, I

30:16

guess congratulate him on all his success. And

30:18

what was the rest, Johnny? Like,

30:20

how does it feel like to have, you

30:23

know, instant six? Like, for example, he's very,

30:25

very young in his career, but he started

30:27

to make a lot of noise in the

30:29

community as a guy that could be a

30:31

real contender. How does that feel so soon?

30:33

or so early in his career? No,

31:01

me siento bastante bien y

31:03

nada, gracias por invitarme aquí al

31:05

estudio por primera vez. No,

31:07

me siento bastante bien. He

31:09

vivido varias experiencias estando

31:12

en muchos campamentos, como

31:14

el campamento especial de Canelo Álvarez, que

31:16

lo vi muchas gracias que me abrieron las

31:18

puertas de la primera vez que llegué

31:20

aquí. Y nada, con respecto

31:22

a mi carrera me siento bastante cuidoso

31:24

con la rapidez que me han movido

31:26

bastante bien. Obviously

31:32

I wanted to thank

31:34

you guys for having me

31:37

here and also I'm

31:39

feel happy for the opportunities

31:41

all because the great

31:43

opportunity that I have in

31:45

front to participate on

31:48

Canelo's camp. Canelo's

31:50

camp was a great opportunity for me

31:52

and I feel happy the way

31:54

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31:56

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32:41

want to know your story, Jovenel? you want

32:44

to know your story? Most of you come out

32:46

of Cuba in a way. Do you want

32:48

to know your story of how you came out

32:50

of Cuba and how you got here and

32:52

how was? No, my

32:54

way out of Cuba was

32:56

during the transfer that I had

32:59

just finished World Cup. From

33:01

2023 we returned and in Panama

33:03

I took the defense and

33:05

the other day I picked up

33:07

a passage for France. to

33:09

meet with my wife. I

33:12

was there practicing, I

33:15

played with some friends, then I

33:17

went to Mexico, I was in

33:19

the Panda camp, for six

33:21

months in the camp, until my

33:23

first fight here in the United States,

33:25

which was when I came here

33:27

to the United States. On

33:30

his last

33:33

World Championship competition.

33:36

That's when he decided to leave and

33:38

he bought a ticket and went to

33:40

France. After that, he stayed

33:42

in France. He did some boxing

33:44

up there. He met with his

33:46

wife over there. And

33:48

then after, he went

33:50

to Mexico, was in Panda, was

33:53

with Panda in camp for a minute.

33:55

And then 17 April, he came

33:57

to the United States. So

33:59

when was in camp with Panda was

34:01

that just like a transitioning stage or

34:03

was he training with Panda and he

34:05

ended up not liking the chemistry? It

34:37

was only a transition plan for

34:39

six months. The promoters and

34:41

the managers and all that, they wanted to

34:43

make sure that he was good at taking

34:45

care while he was in Mexico waiting for

34:47

the paperwork. But

34:50

it was always a transition for six

34:52

months. We

34:57

just had Carlos Adamus on the

34:59

show yesterday and we asked Adamus,

35:01

as the WBC champ, would he

35:03

like to fight, you know, fellow

35:05

Caribbean Cuban, Islandre Laura? And he

35:07

said no, that he looks up

35:09

to Laura, he watched Laura's career

35:11

while he was a young guy,

35:13

and he rather not face Laura.

35:16

On the other hand, Hernandez was

35:18

heavily rumored to face Laura. Did

35:20

that bother him emotionally that he

35:22

would have to face one of

35:24

the great Cuban legends? Or did

35:26

he look forward to that because

35:28

he would have that name on

35:30

his resume? ese

35:45

rumoró grandemente. Sabemos que fue

35:48

un rumor de que tú supuestamente

35:50

ibas a enfrentar a Lara. How

35:52

do you feel about all this and

35:55

what happened there if was a rumor? No,

35:57

those were the people who

35:59

had a lot of controversy,

36:01

you understand? Many people talked

36:03

about why I was watching the fight, I

36:06

didn't for time, didn't ask for the

36:08

fight either. always said it

36:10

and wherever want all the fans who have the

36:12

opportunity to say it, I always say it.

36:14

I don't have the goal of fighting with him

36:16

for now or anything, not my goal. But

36:18

if tomorrow we have to fight, already

36:20

for a title. That

36:27

was only a bad rumor. I

36:30

never called Lara. It

36:32

was never going to fight. That

36:34

wasn't going to happen. I

36:36

always going to keep saying it. My

36:38

intention right now is not to fight

36:40

Lara. My intention right now is to

36:42

keep moving up. But if in the

36:44

future, the opportunity present, even

36:47

if it's Lara or it's anybody,

36:49

I will take it. Johnny

36:52

anything else before I

36:55

go to the people Okay,

36:57

no, no you can

36:59

go to the people good

37:01

All right First one

37:03

comes from Mr. Benny Henney

37:05

said I'd like to

37:07

see you face sugar shame

37:10

Mosley, Jr. Or crown

37:12

Davis, but they say Marquise

37:14

Teller is the undefeated

37:16

Cuban boogie man all love

37:18

from Pittsburgh the

37:21

question they have is, and

37:24

he would like you face

37:26

Keon Davis, who is the

37:28

one you going to face

37:30

now, the one they announced

37:32

today, or Sugar Shane Mousley,

37:34

a junior, but

37:36

also he says, what was

37:38

the name of the

37:40

boogeyman? I know

37:42

him, Marquis Taylor. He

37:44

says that Marquis Taylor

37:46

He's the who won the

37:48

Cubans, he won LLB

37:51

Gomez previously. How

37:53

would you feel with any of

37:55

these three? I would

37:57

feel pretty good, and as athlete, and

37:59

as I'm starting now, I'm

38:02

starting, I would like to fight

38:04

with the three. I

38:06

agree, would fight with the three. I

38:09

would like to fight any of the three

38:11

like I'm starting right now. They good test.

38:13

So like an athlete and like a great

38:15

boxer, right? I like to fight any of

38:17

the three. Axelman,

38:20

does he feel like he

38:22

needs to be rushed? He's only

38:24

got seven fights, seven knockouts,

38:26

but the conversation is with Kyrom

38:28

Davis who has a WBA. Obviously

38:31

with Laura, who's a champion. Does

38:34

he feel rushed or does he like

38:36

the pace at which he's going? Obviously,

38:42

they are taking you fast,

38:44

right? The conversation is between

38:46

you, Lara and now

38:48

this Kiron Davis, right? You

38:51

feel that are pushing you very fast,

38:53

you feel that they are taking you at

38:55

the speed, how do you feel with

38:57

the rhythm that they are taking you? I

38:59

feel that they are taking me to

39:01

the park, on a balance. So

39:03

far they put me together

39:05

with five fighters. I

39:28

feel like they're taking me

39:30

in kind of a rush,

39:32

but in a balance also.

39:34

They're putting me some fighters

39:36

that people say that they're

39:38

not good contenders, but for

39:40

me, anybody who's tapping the

39:42

ring is a great contender.

39:45

So now I feel like it's not rush. It's

39:47

a balance between my ability and the rest. Is

39:52

he able to make the

39:54

way comfortably? And is

39:56

he seeking an opportunity?

40:00

And if that opportunity with booboo at

40:02

168 would he be willing to

40:04

move up to give have a fight

40:06

with booboo Andre? He

40:09

says that he makes

40:11

the comfortable weight of the

40:13

160 pounds and that

40:15

if there is the opportunity

40:17

to move to 178

40:19

to fight with Bubu Andrades

40:23

If take it No,

40:27

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

40:29

no, no, no, because are at the

40:31

same age and we live together no, no, no,

40:34

No, he makes

40:36

the no, no, no, no, no,

40:38

good no, no, no, no, no,

40:40

no, no, never gonna take the

40:42

fight with Andrade because they spotting

40:44

partners and rather help him in

40:46

camp They buddies they from the

40:49

same camp they from the same

40:51

a kind of a manager and

40:53

all that is the connection with

40:55

Velos the Dominican trainer is that

40:57

how he He connected to

40:59

Andre. Yeah, he's connected

41:01

Yeah, he's connected to Andrade through

41:03

Rob, manager Yeah, he's connected to

41:05

Andrade because Andrade got a big,

41:07

like family in there. I can't

41:09

tell you that I know that

41:11

part All right, all right. We

41:14

got and

41:16

Diego. What What up, Yonelli.

41:18

yes, Yonelli, I know you train

41:20

with Canelo, but would you consider

41:22

fighting him one day in real

41:25

fight at 168? We

41:27

know you with Canelo and we know

41:29

you are are well in the

41:31

camp, but you consider fighting with Canelo

41:33

any time? No,

41:35

we don't consider it. A person

41:37

who opens the door for you

41:39

to come here the beginning not

41:42

to consent it as

41:44

a rival. No,

41:47

I don't feel like... I don't

41:49

take any more support. No,

41:51

Canelo has been great to me and he

41:53

opened the doors me from the beginning I

41:55

don't see it like an enemy. I don't

41:58

see like a competitor. I see it a

42:00

support for my career, and that's

42:02

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question as so now that he

42:35

says that that obviously canelo is

42:37

special to him was canelo You

42:39

know one of the fighters that

42:41

inspired him and if not What

42:44

are the fighters inspired him to

42:46

become a professional fighter? Well,

43:04

when I was in

43:06

Cuba, they always asked me

43:09

who was my favorite

43:11

player, and always said it

43:13

was Maywez. But

43:15

with regards to Canelo, he has

43:17

supported lot. Well,

43:21

I repeat, he never tire me. He opened the door

43:23

for to go up. He has

43:25

supported me a lot. Every time I

43:27

was in his gym, he has supported

43:29

me. He always been there for me.

43:31

He told me what he needs. At

43:33

the moment, there with him. And

43:36

I don't consider him as a rival

43:38

and only as a friend more. When

43:43

I was in Cuba, people asked me

43:45

who was my inspiration and it was

43:47

always my weather, Floyd Mayweather. Now,

43:49

but Canelo has been the open

43:51

door that support from the beginning

43:53

when I got to the United

43:55

States. And he always talked to

43:57

me and he always gave me

43:59

all full support camp and he

44:01

always tells me that there

44:04

for whatever I need. Does

44:09

he want to fight with Carlos Adames?

44:11

Like what is the champion that he's

44:13

looking to fight because he already said

44:15

he doesn't want to fight Laura. Do

44:18

you want, do you you

44:20

want fight Laura? or

44:22

Laura? what is want to fight Laura? you want

44:24

to fight Laura? Do for now, Laura? not Laura. Do

44:30

Laura? Do Laura? For

44:35

now, Laura? not Laura, but I

44:37

consider every one of them to

44:39

fight with them when the opportunity

44:41

arrives. When

44:44

he think he'll get that title

44:46

shot opportunity? When do you

44:48

think he'll get that title opportunity? Whenever

45:03

God's I'm not in hurry,

45:05

but I in God. I just

45:08

whenever he the opportunity, I

45:10

will take it because I want to fight for all

45:12

the titles. So doesn't

45:14

have a timeline like never in his mind

45:16

he said I want to be champion after

45:18

amount of time or X of years. Algo

45:45

parecido para decir quiero ser campeón

45:47

en este tiempo algo que haya estado

45:49

en tu mente. He

45:59

said that they gave him his

46:01

opportunity last year, but he said

46:03

that after this year, he gonna

46:05

go for all the titles. Wow,

46:08

all the titles, okay. Since

46:13

he's sparring with Canelo, I gotta ask,

46:15

man, what does he think of A, the

46:18

bravery of Crawford wanting

46:20

to get in there

46:22

in a professional fight

46:24

with 10 ounce gloves?

46:26

And yeah, does he

46:28

think Crawford stands a

46:31

chance versus Canelo? Do

46:39

you think

46:41

it's opportune? It's

46:44

real. The

46:48

fight between Canelo and Crawford, how do

46:51

you see Crawford up to 168 to

46:53

fight him with 10 ounces? And

46:55

what opportunity do you see

46:57

Crawford versus Canelo? Crawford.

47:02

Well, always more

47:05

involved. He's

47:22

saying it in Spanish, Caesar. I'm

47:30

not a fan of croft. I'm not

47:32

a fan of boxing. So I maybe

47:35

don't know who's a really croft for

47:37

I'm not watching at that, but I

47:39

always go with mine. I always go

47:41

with a canelo We're almost done here,

47:43

man. Thank you so much Tip Bellis,

47:45

who do you think wins between Demetrius

47:47

Andre and Kella plant? I guess That

47:49

answer is going to be the same

47:51

as the one you just gave us,

47:54

but try them out. Who

47:56

do you think will win against Dimitri

47:58

Andrade and Caleb Plante? I

48:01

don't know. I don't know. don't

48:04

know. Dimitri Andrade,

48:06

who? And Caleb Plante.

48:08

Caleb Plante. Plante.

48:10

He faced Canelo. I

48:14

think that Caleb Plante win. He

48:17

thinks that Caleb Plante can

48:19

beat him. So,

48:22

Cesar, hold on,

48:24

Cesar, so if he doesn't like to

48:26

watch boxing when he's not fighting,

48:28

what would you like to watch? So,

48:31

si a ti no te gusta ver

48:33

el boxeo, que hace en tu tiempo

48:35

libre si no te gusta estar pendiente

48:37

al boxeo ni nada? You know, who

48:40

won't let me be a winner in the

48:42

play? Play PlayStation,

48:44

man. Play PlayStation. Be

48:46

on the PlayStation. I know that be

48:48

on the PlayStation all fucking they playing FIFA

48:50

and all that stuff. Yeah. What does

48:52

he like to play? FIFA, bro. These

48:55

jokers play FIFA man. That

48:57

soccer game, that's what these jokers

48:59

play all day in between

49:01

them. It's crazy. It's crazy.

49:03

It's FIFA. They all they all

49:05

over all them Cubans out on

49:07

that thing. They watching soccer and

49:09

playing FIFA on PlayStation. I

49:13

got big. Big

49:16

God, he says, who

49:18

do you see yourself fighting

49:20

next year? Whoever

49:33

got the

49:35

belts, I'm going

49:37

for it. The last

49:39

one is octo yo

49:41

champ. What's your favorite music

49:43

artist and give us

49:46

one movie we should watch

49:48

What what was the

49:50

first part of the question

49:52

his favorite music artists

49:54

and his favorite movie Keith

50:09

Brown is the singer and

50:11

also terror movies are his

50:13

favorite. Keith Brown, not Chris

50:15

Brown. Keith Brown. No, Keith

50:18

Brown. He's Cuban or

50:20

something? Oh,

50:29

chocolate from Cuba, but he said

50:31

Chris Brown, Chris Brown from

50:33

American, Chris Brown, Chris Brown. Well,

50:37

that is all the questions man.

50:39

Tell them thank you for coming on

50:41

and obviously we want to get

50:43

him on more consistent when he gets

50:45

some, you know, gets closer

50:47

to the fight. We'd love to get him back on

50:49

as well. Thank

51:07

you for the opportunity. You got the contact. All

51:10

you got to do is contact him. No

51:12

All right, man. Thank you. And Cesar,

51:14

thank you, man. You're nasty with

51:16

it, bro. Your translation skills are perfect,

51:18

man. Yeah, I stay with you guys

51:20

for a minute here. I hang with

51:23

you guys for a minute so we

51:25

can talk about a couple of

51:27

things on what I got. Shout

51:34

out to Joe

51:36

Nelly Hernandez. Yeah,

51:39

so talk to us, Caesar. You said you wanted to talk

51:41

about a few things. Yeah,

51:43

yeah, yeah. No, on Joe Nelly's

51:45

Feliciano, just so people know, and

51:48

you can look at it,

51:50

and I can tell you

51:52

the story. That way you

51:54

see where kind of things

51:56

going last month, or yeah,

51:58

last month. After showing Orlando,

52:00

it was some conversations out

52:03

there and all of a

52:05

sudden he appeared number seven

52:07

on the WBO Rank WBO

52:09

rankings. Yes, sir. Yes, sir

52:11

So so Behind the scenes

52:13

they don't they don't give

52:15

like a lot of people

52:17

don't give him chance with

52:19

the Keon Davis You know,

52:21

it's like a people like

52:23

doubting like oh, this is

52:25

a test because this is

52:27

a test right there a

52:29

Kiran Davis came from a

52:32

beating man a the

52:34

name? Garcia Elijah Garcia and all

52:36

that he went the almost all

52:38

the route with Benavides at 68

52:40

Blah Blah Blah But it definitely

52:42

he definitely did a good fight

52:44

even though he you know, they

52:46

stopped it He certainly gave a

52:48

good fight with Benavidos Ryan

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mintmobile .com. Yeah, so if he passed this

53:24

one, imagine where he going to be.

53:26

He probably going to end up number one in the

53:28

WBO. So you imagine where he's going. And

53:31

I ain't going to say nothing in here,

53:33

but just giving you. But

53:35

the thing is that Kyrone

53:37

got a WBA. They're

53:39

going to fight for that

53:41

belt. Exactly. Yeah, but but

53:43

he's also ranked in the WBO. So

53:46

it might be, you know, if he wins

53:48

that belt, he won't be ranked. Remember,

53:50

Kyrone got the belt. That's why he can't

53:52

be ranked in nowhere. You don't find

53:54

him nowhere. Yeah. Yeah, I

53:56

tell you, I tell you what I

53:58

know. And I believe he's going to

54:00

be number one in the WBO. And

54:02

then the other belt is

54:05

a secondary belt. So he probably

54:07

going to go on the

54:09

other route against Alain Canoulli. So

54:11

a Hey, we'll see

54:13

what happened for first. We got

54:15

to go to make 31st First

54:17

we got to go to make

54:19

31st. You know, I'm gonna be

54:21

there. I'm gonna be behind the

54:23

scene and then make 31st He

54:25

go fight and then we we

54:27

got to see if he win

54:29

first and then happen What you

54:31

think really happened because those those

54:33

lower rumors was heavy that was

54:35

no no the lot that the

54:37

lot of rumors it was a

54:41

What's the word? Not

54:43

good intention, you know, it was

54:45

one of those that let's put

54:47

it out on purpose But no,

54:50

you know, that never that never

54:52

was even a talk that was

54:54

because at the WBA convention a

54:56

Somebody misunderstood a request a that

54:58

say make him number one But

55:00

people think like they was asking

55:02

to like fight Lara. No, that

55:04

was there. That wasn't the case.

55:07

The case was just to make

55:09

him in number one in the

55:11

ranks. And that's it. So

55:13

Lara, Lara most likely going

55:15

to end up fighting the other

55:17

Charlo. 154

55:19

chart. Yeah. So

55:23

Lara probably going to end

55:25

up fighting me officially PBC because

55:27

of Louis DeCubus and Rob

55:29

connection or no. Yeah, he's fighting

55:31

PBC. Yeah, he's fighting PBC.

55:33

He's officially PBC. we won't see,

55:35

we're not going to see

55:37

him with Johnny Beck. We're

55:40

probably, yeah, because to remember a

55:42

top rank and PBC are doing

55:44

business now. I

55:46

mean, is that official? Have they done

55:48

anything yet? They already

55:50

got square way. You

55:53

saw De Los Santos and

55:55

Kishon. And then you've

55:57

seen a fundora and sayas,

55:59

which is gonna be

56:01

in that car with a

56:03

What's the name a? Garbonta

56:06

Davis and and lemon

56:08

roach a too Which I

56:10

got the interview with

56:13

what? They

56:15

put yeah, that's that fight is

56:17

gonna be there at the end

56:19

of July or August I got

56:21

it on that interview you was

56:23

there with me Johnny when I

56:25

interview a what's the name? Well

56:28

I was in the back with

56:30

Robert Diaz, and yeah, that's the

56:32

plan. The plan is it's gonna

56:34

be Keith Turman. They're trying to

56:36

do Keith Turman and and and

56:38

and a team zoo and a

56:41

fundora and what's the name a

56:43

Side yes and Gerbonta and and

56:45

I'm on Roach and I'm on

56:47

Roach and Gerbonta According to Robert

56:49

Diaz. They sign a contract On

56:52

one car And one more and

56:54

one more three fighting one car

56:56

that why you accent? How

56:58

would Roberto Diaz? No, he works

57:00

for victory sports or some shit

57:02

like that. He worked with Lamont Roach.

57:06

And the fight was gonna be on

57:08

June 21st. I asked him in

57:10

Orlando. He was up with that Johnny

57:12

was there and I said he

57:14

said he said they gonna they They

57:16

know working on nothing because tank

57:18

even though tank is in Atlanta here

57:20

in Georgia a They they don't

57:22

have time for now to do it

57:24

in June because of look at

57:27

the time frame look where we at

57:29

and look what is happening So

57:31

what's gonna happen is they're gonna move

57:33

it either to end of July

57:35

or beginning of August Right. And they're

57:37

going to do a mega card,

57:39

a big card with some other plans

57:41

with a streaming and all these.

57:43

And then they're going to do so.

57:45

Maybe Turkey got something to do

57:48

in that one too. So it's

57:50

coming. That's a big card.

57:52

It sounds like a big card. And that's

57:54

top rank and PVC again. And

57:56

so that's what I got. I

57:59

got the interview with the man with I

58:01

put it just so that I put part

58:03

of it and I got more That's a

58:05

big car. I would love it to fall

58:07

on August 2nd man. Just go ahead and

58:09

make it on your second Yeah,

58:13

but we'll see what like where they

58:15

put it to because they well they

58:17

trying to do it at the at

58:19

the T -Mobile. That's I I got

58:22

that part also they trying with the

58:24

T -Mobile That's what that's why they haven't

58:26

say if it's gonna be July or

58:28

August because of the arena That's the

58:30

problem. They having in there the the

58:32

the fundora and sunday sign already Sander

58:35

at the beginning Sander was asking

58:37

for too much money and this

58:39

and that and then this opportunity

58:41

rise up, you know if a

58:43

garbonta gonna be there is a

58:46

is a big budget a Court

58:48

so money comes and goes so

58:50

it works for everybody. So Now

58:52

that one is made. I know

58:54

that one for sure is made

58:56

is signed that the thing is

58:58

the word they gonna venue it

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59:36

put it out. That's the plane. That's

59:39

the plan. You remember at the

59:41

Caribe Royale when they also terming ask

59:43

a team zoo to like, do

59:45

you want to sign the contract? If

59:47

we win and all that, which I put

59:49

that part of the video also. And so

59:51

all that is, is, is making good sense.

59:53

You know, it get boned and

59:55

and a la la la la la la la la la la

59:58

la la Need don't need

1:00:00

that much help because the

1:00:02

fight want everybody want to see

1:00:04

the fight But at the

1:00:06

beginning at the same time is

1:00:08

a is a great card

1:00:10

to put in you know, they

1:00:13

giving us what we want

1:00:15

good fights to get Where's that

1:00:17

happening at right there and

1:00:19

they call it plant and a

1:00:21

Caleb plant and and and

1:00:23

and Charlotte fuck a card make

1:00:25

31st they didn't even put

1:00:28

them on the press conference. That's

1:00:30

crazy. No, but they announced

1:00:32

it at the press conference that

1:00:34

crazy press crazy stupid press

1:00:36

conference. I didn't like that. I

1:00:38

didn't like that. I

1:00:40

would mean if you rub Caleb the

1:00:42

wrong way with your question today.

1:00:45

Because I did it on purpose kind

1:00:47

of on purpose because I don't

1:00:49

know if you agree with me. It's

1:00:51

stupid that you get in there. You

1:00:54

got you got an event

1:00:56

in Vegas, right? And then you

1:00:58

disqualifying the two dudes that

1:01:00

gonna fight against you and charlotte

1:01:02

like we already know they

1:01:04

superior and all that but you

1:01:06

don't go in there saying

1:01:09

that a No, the plan is

1:01:11

a me and charlotte gonna

1:01:13

fight next Because I already fuck

1:01:15

a it was named dressing

1:01:17

Disney in aspiring and now well

1:01:19

is I Said bro, you

1:01:21

never know if this young lion

1:01:24

Put it on you or some

1:01:26

and I don't know how you're

1:01:28

gonna react. You know, so my

1:01:30

kumbi got some good shots on

1:01:32

him. So Yeah My kumbi got

1:01:35

some good shots on him. So

1:01:37

that's where he earned his name

1:01:39

was in that fight people Yeah,

1:01:41

so Do you think my kumbi

1:01:43

gonna end up fighting that Pacheco? Yeah

1:01:46

Wow, you heard something different now

1:01:48

that that's what that's why Pacheco

1:01:50

pulled out the And

1:01:52

Billy negotiations and

1:01:55

now and Billy is

1:01:57

fighting someone else.

1:01:59

He's fighting a Yes,

1:02:01

I'm crazy this

1:02:04

my second or whatever

1:02:06

So yeah, so

1:02:08

he fighting that do

1:02:11

booty that other fight already

1:02:13

beat that do Mm -hmm.

1:02:15

Yeah But

1:02:17

I'm not for sure about my

1:02:19

kumbi and pacheco and that's a

1:02:21

Eddie herring thing, you know They

1:02:23

don't know also where to put

1:02:26

it. They was talking about June

1:02:28

21st and look where we at.

1:02:30

They haven't announced yet, you know,

1:02:32

so It's kind of crazy July

1:02:34

14 a June June 14 is

1:02:36

Andy Cruz in New York. So

1:02:39

so far so far that

1:02:43

Japanese do the number four in

1:02:45

the ranking in the IBF. It's a...

1:02:47

It's a... It's a... When they

1:02:50

gonna let that dude fight somebody, why

1:02:52

they don't give Justin Paolo a

1:02:54

shot, bro? He's in

1:02:56

the rankings. Hell yeah. Paolo,

1:02:58

hell yeah. Well, he's fighting

1:03:00

for the number one spot,

1:03:02

so... He got to fight

1:03:04

there, they're available, because Abdul

1:03:06

-Aev and Murataya fight on

1:03:08

May 10th. And then

1:03:10

they gonna put a what's

1:03:12

the name in their

1:03:15

egg Andy and there and

1:03:17

this a Japanese dude

1:03:19

a Number four the ranking.

1:03:21

Oh, no Who Andy

1:03:23

broke in a 30 Yeah,

1:03:25

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:03:27

bro. What you think about

1:03:30

the morale fight. That's

1:03:32

a tough fight I'm picking

1:03:34

morale, but that's a

1:03:36

tough fight It can

1:03:38

be tough. I think that's a

1:03:40

that's a a Jerbusy lune

1:03:42

fight like kind of like kind

1:03:44

of a Jerbusy lune fight

1:03:46

Maybe maybe I do feel like

1:03:48

he is right there Palacio

1:03:51

did really good versus him. I

1:03:53

want to see Palacio back

1:03:55

The the name of the of

1:03:57

the Japanese dude is Hinonori

1:03:59

Michiro That's the name of the

1:04:01

Andy Cruz is number six

1:04:03

in the ranking. Yeah Number one

1:04:05

is not right. It's not

1:04:07

rated Abdullah. I'm gonna fight. You

1:04:09

can't compare him to to

1:04:11

Kishon. I Wonder if

1:04:14

it's because Eddie's busy or

1:04:16

they don't believe in them They

1:04:18

don't believe in who? Andy

1:04:20

No Andy fight Kishon tomorrow Kishon

1:04:22

don't want to fight Andy They ask

1:04:24

him Puerto Rico and he like

1:04:26

he avoiding that thing and top -ranked

1:04:29

don't know it's Kishon. Nobody ain't send

1:04:31

no offer But

1:04:33

what offer need to be you

1:04:35

know, it's just do you want to

1:04:37

fight it? You can't say yeah

1:04:39

without an awful you can't say no

1:04:41

without one either But it's like

1:04:43

it's like they deal with the Los

1:04:45

Santos, you know if if really

1:04:47

if Kachon want to do his thing,

1:04:49

right? When when he want to

1:04:51

do a thing with the Los Santos he called

1:04:53

the Los Santos and said let go let go

1:04:55

fight. Yeah, but now after the failed negotiations Now

1:04:58

if he wanted if he wanted

1:05:00

to if he really wanted to fight

1:05:02

Andy, he said let's do it

1:05:04

right now Like just like a Ben

1:05:07

Avida deal with the morale. Well,

1:05:09

you guys said that this is the

1:05:11

main let's go Let's get it

1:05:13

right now. Let's get it and that's

1:05:15

not what happening with a between

1:05:17

them a Between them two in there,

1:05:19

you know, my brother, but there

1:05:21

there is a demographic of people that

1:05:23

believe Andy is the asa because

1:05:25

he has two wins because he calls

1:05:27

him For daddy, so

1:05:29

it is top it is matrim.

1:05:31

They're supposed to send quiche on

1:05:33

the offer Well, it was named

1:05:35

a Eddie hern been talking and

1:05:37

been telling them look you want

1:05:39

to do it because you don't

1:05:41

want to send any offer if

1:05:43

the guy don't say Yes, I

1:05:46

want to do it right now.

1:05:48

I'm pretty sure this way, you

1:05:50

know that they don't want it

1:05:52

And you got to understand this

1:05:54

I think you got you got

1:05:56

this one wrong in some point

1:05:58

the champion never gonna go to

1:06:00

the other person house The champion

1:06:02

always gonna bring the people to

1:06:04

his house. So top rank ain't

1:06:06

gonna go with any match room

1:06:08

offer They just gonna say whenever

1:06:10

they want to fight to do

1:06:12

I think that's the thing if

1:06:14

Eddie sends an offer Top rank

1:06:16

has to counter and say no,

1:06:18

we're not gonna let Kishon go

1:06:20

fight on matchroom Here's

1:06:23

a counter -offer. We

1:06:25

could fight in Vegas. We could

1:06:27

fight in New York. Matter of fact,

1:06:29

here's an offer for Andy to come

1:06:31

to Kishon's hometown of Virginia. But that's our

1:06:33

negotiation. Go. Don't nobody got to say

1:06:36

yes, they got to send an offer. Then

1:06:38

they're going to say yes or no

1:06:40

and go from there. But look, I know

1:06:42

Andy ain't ready, bro. Come

1:06:44

on, bro. Nobody even knows the

1:06:46

last four names. Only Burgos. We don't

1:06:48

remember. Oh, Moran. Moran. We don't

1:06:50

remember nobody else. Like, if he was

1:06:52

ready, they would have been putting

1:06:54

them in with names that we know,

1:06:56

not names that we don't know.

1:06:58

Look at what Kishon is doing. mean,

1:07:02

since Nahia Albright, it

1:07:04

was Albright, Pedraza,

1:07:07

Medueno,

1:07:09

Gustavo, Deris Berencheck.

1:07:11

Now you're going to fight Edward.

1:07:13

I mean, they believe in Kishon.

1:07:16

They showing you that. And

1:07:18

they show in a matchroom. He

1:07:20

showed you and he said

1:07:23

no, I believe in boots

1:07:25

three fights hometown fights three

1:07:27

main events get eager and

1:07:29

and and nine months Bro,

1:07:31

he got Andy three years.

1:07:33

He ain't done shit with

1:07:36

him So so so the

1:07:38

first a the first fighters

1:07:40

that Andy thought was all

1:07:42

Mexicans, right? And

1:07:44

he's a and he's a people

1:07:46

that a that a that

1:07:49

does This it was the same

1:07:51

level as a kitchen Davis

1:07:53

So and then it so people

1:07:55

don't remember the The people

1:07:57

don't remember the first he got

1:07:59

a good fight and he

1:08:02

impressed By doing a debut with

1:08:04

Carlos Burgos because that was

1:08:06

already a quiche on opponent quiche

1:08:08

on had to build to

1:08:10

that ten round but he stopped

1:08:13

He stopped impressing, right? Like he took

1:08:15

the the Burgos fight. Okay. Wow.

1:08:17

This Olympian is fighting 10 rounds. Then

1:08:20

he had to scare with with

1:08:22

Moran. And since

1:08:24

then, what's going on?

1:08:27

So nothing of note. So

1:08:30

he went 10 round

1:08:33

with that for the first

1:08:35

opponent, which was a

1:08:37

kitchen like 10th opponent

1:08:39

something like that, you know

1:08:41

Burgos and kitchen kitchen couldn't

1:08:43

even stop him So that

1:08:45

we cannot do triangle thing

1:08:47

and put two plus two

1:08:49

is for no is Andy

1:08:51

beat him. kitchen

1:08:53

beat him and they beat him

1:08:55

in 10 rounds kitchen beating me

1:08:57

eight So and then he got

1:08:59

four tough Mexicans, you know That

1:09:01

which is way better all five

1:09:03

of a anti -cruiser position at the

1:09:06

beginning of his career, I

1:09:08

think it's way better than what

1:09:10

a Kishon have at the beginning

1:09:12

of his career. You know, I

1:09:14

think it's the only thing that

1:09:16

Kishon now got Pedraza in there,

1:09:18

but what Pedraza he got, you

1:09:20

know, and then he

1:09:23

got Berenchik, right? Which

1:09:25

we also what happened, you know. Small

1:09:27

dude, you know Kishan did that,

1:09:29

you know, we saw what happened because

1:09:31

he shunned with it Now are

1:09:33

there's two two division champs. He couldn't

1:09:35

do it now We can't discredit

1:09:37

Kishon because he did it easy What

1:09:40

what we had to see now

1:09:42

is what he do with Edwin de

1:09:44

los Santos. That's what we need

1:09:46

to find out, you know Edwin de

1:09:48

los Santos gonna tell us really

1:09:50

really what Kishon got, you know, that's

1:09:53

the real talk So

1:09:56

far,

1:09:58

all

1:10:01

the

1:10:03

other

1:10:06

ones

1:10:08

don't

1:10:10

count,

1:10:13

really

1:10:15

don't

1:10:18

count.

1:10:23

Late round stoppage. I bet you

1:10:25

and I hope they don't

1:10:27

I hope stop them so that

1:10:29

is it close. Is it

1:10:32

wait? Is it wait claws in

1:10:34

Virginia? Absolutely Google it The

1:10:36

Virginia Commission not not the WBA

1:10:38

the Virginia Commission puts a

1:10:40

10 pound rehydration close At what

1:10:42

time like in the morning

1:10:44

of the fight same thing like

1:10:47

they are BF. Yeah, so

1:10:49

so so Next you know boxing

1:10:51

right and Johnny you know

1:10:53

boxing right so who that affects

1:10:55

more Kishon that That is

1:10:57

it affects Edwin de los Santa

1:10:59

que no peli I want

1:11:01

go on you know Discipline make

1:11:04

it wait so it wait

1:11:06

make it wait. How you gonna

1:11:08

all of a sudden make

1:11:10

way that 135 after two years

1:11:12

plus Not you know contain

1:11:14

yourself the 10 pounds go with

1:11:16

Kishon too And Edwin

1:11:18

with cello in the corner cello

1:11:20

will make sure but that's

1:11:22

so so that's what I asking

1:11:24

you It affects kitchen the

1:11:27

10 pounds also. No, yeah, he

1:11:29

got it made him to

1:11:31

let me explain what I think

1:11:33

it don't affect Kishon because

1:11:35

Kishon has fought three times in

1:11:37

12 months His body is

1:11:39

used to making way. He's in

1:11:41

shape Okay, okay,

1:11:45

so So that's what you think.

1:11:48

That's what you think, right? This is

1:11:50

and that's good. That's good, right? So

1:11:52

and let's say all that happened, right? Let's

1:11:54

say he knocked him out, right? Let's say

1:11:57

like a lot of people saying he'll knock

1:11:59

him out this and that this and that,

1:12:01

right? So that

1:12:03

should be cool. I

1:12:05

know that that should

1:12:07

be Chakur gonna look

1:12:09

super bad, right? But

1:12:11

now if that don't

1:12:13

happen if Kishon a

1:12:15

feel some and start

1:12:17

doing a Shakur thing right or

1:12:19

some like that or if he or

1:12:22

if he risked too much Then

1:12:24

what you gonna say here because you

1:12:26

you got your side of your

1:12:28

picture what you seen I got my

1:12:30

side of my picture what I

1:12:32

seen and I and I been Following

1:12:34

Edwin, you know, I talked to

1:12:36

Edwin like almost every week and find

1:12:39

out since he got hurt and

1:12:41

the whole thing and cello You know,

1:12:43

I got a good relationship in

1:12:45

there, but What if

1:12:47

that don't happen? What if he

1:12:49

goes and do like it? Let's say

1:12:51

let's say he lost To the

1:12:53

distance in a huge fight So where

1:12:55

you gonna put Kishon in there

1:12:57

because why you saying in here right

1:12:59

now? What's up? He's still top.

1:13:01

He don't gotta knock him out to

1:13:03

be great The knockdown is the

1:13:05

cherry on top. Oh, because, listen, what

1:13:07

you saying in here is that

1:13:10

Qixion is superior. Like, it's over this

1:13:12

guy and he's gonna beat him

1:13:14

up. No, what I'm saying here is

1:13:16

that Qixion has the advantage. He

1:13:18

has the advantage of being active, the

1:13:21

advantage of already making

1:13:23

the weight, where

1:13:25

Delos Santos is at a disadvantage.

1:13:27

He's coming off of a blood clot.

1:13:30

He's coming off of more than

1:13:32

18 months off. And he's going to

1:13:34

have a rehydration when he hasn't

1:13:36

been making weight in almost two years.

1:13:38

OK. So with all that against

1:13:40

him, he shouldn't make it to the

1:13:42

last belt, right? That's

1:13:44

what I am thinking. I am thinking

1:13:46

that's why the probability is higher

1:13:48

for Kishore to get a knockout. OK.

1:13:50

But it don't mean it's going

1:13:52

to happen. It don't mean that that's

1:13:54

guaranteed. But I know what is

1:13:57

guaranteed, the win. That

1:13:59

W. Yeah, so

1:14:01

that's so that's what I come from

1:14:03

like it now that you got your

1:14:05

picture now that you got your picture,

1:14:07

right? You can tell me

1:14:09

if then you see if you hear

1:14:11

you here with Johnny and the

1:14:13

crew right on the fight night, right? Going

1:14:17

into the decision 12

1:14:19

rounds, right? I'm not mad

1:14:21

a tough fight 12

1:14:23

rounds. So Who who who

1:14:25

who's bad the Los

1:14:28

Santos? It

1:14:30

all depends how it looks because Morel

1:14:32

had a No, no, no, hold on.

1:14:34

Hold on. Hold Hold on. on. on.

1:14:36

on. on. on. on. Hold on. Hold

1:14:38

Hold on.

1:14:40

Hold on.

1:14:42

Hold on. on.

1:14:46

Hold

1:14:48

on.

1:14:50

Hold

1:14:52

on.

1:14:55

Hold on.

1:14:57

Hold Run over

1:15:00

him, right? No,

1:15:02

but now Okay,

1:15:07

so a late stoppage and and

1:15:09

he got it. No, I'm not

1:15:11

making some but it then if

1:15:13

we see a tough fight 12

1:15:15

round a closed decision. So who's

1:15:17

looking bad? That's

1:15:20

the kids Yeah, me

1:15:22

me was gonna get a stoppage.

1:15:24

Okay, that's what season was

1:15:26

getting that all along, bro But

1:15:28

but but again, no, the

1:15:30

thing is the thing is that

1:15:32

he's got he wants to

1:15:34

put you in a hypothetical if

1:15:36

he looks bad The truth

1:15:38

of the matter is this game

1:15:40

is in call knockout. It's

1:15:42

called boxing if Kishon wins 12

1:15:44

round decision. He won He

1:15:46

won You can't hold that against

1:15:48

them No,

1:15:51

no, no, I don't think

1:15:53

so but what you're saying

1:15:55

is that it's gonna be

1:15:57

a short thing knockout because

1:15:59

of all the advantages he

1:16:01

has Never one said his

1:16:04

short thing. I said it

1:16:06

should be a knockout. He

1:16:08

should get the knockout and

1:16:10

I'm going late round knockout

1:16:12

because But you also adding

1:16:15

in there that he he

1:16:17

got that de los Santos

1:16:19

Got all this all these

1:16:21

disadvantages, right? And that all

1:16:23

those are advantages that kitchen

1:16:25

should be taking care, right?

1:16:28

Yeah. So, so what if

1:16:30

he then if he goes

1:16:32

to the decision, right? The

1:16:34

kitchen going to be like, Oh, my

1:16:36

goodness, I fought a guy that come from

1:16:38

a two year layout, or it's not

1:16:40

two years, but it's close there. A

1:16:42

block club. And he got

1:16:45

to wait a situation, you know,

1:16:47

with the cross in there,

1:16:49

you know, there's rehydration, right? So

1:16:51

Qichong gonna look really bad if

1:16:53

he don't pass through. Like you telling

1:16:55

your people that Qichong got all

1:16:57

the advantages in the world. But

1:17:00

that's not true. You trying to... You know, I don't

1:17:02

know. Maybe it's because the last time we picked against

1:17:04

each other, you lost. You're trying to pin me into

1:17:06

a box. You got to understand. No, no, no, no,

1:17:09

no. Hear me out. Hear me out. No, you lost.

1:17:11

You lost because you kicked me out. You lost. Hear

1:17:13

me out. No, no, no, no. I'm

1:17:15

not talking about the debate. I'm talking about who we

1:17:17

picked, though. I didn't lose that. You picked Morell. And

1:17:19

this guy right here told you Morell was going

1:17:22

to get his clock clean. But I was trying

1:17:24

to use him because he looked good. He

1:17:26

looked good. I didn't think he

1:17:28

was, right? But to me now...

1:17:32

He's on that level not as

1:17:34

good as better me to play

1:17:36

he showed Right, so I'm picking

1:17:38

him over Eman That's how boxing

1:17:40

goes Keith Thurman out the ring

1:17:42

how many years and just got

1:17:45

a knockout so Delos Santos can

1:17:47

do it Delos Santos can do

1:17:49

it. I'm not saying he can't

1:17:51

do it. He could probably do

1:17:53

it, but What if he don't

1:17:55

and the advantages are still on

1:17:57

the side of Kishon If

1:17:59

Kichon loses, he looks bad. If

1:18:01

he gets a decision, how he

1:18:04

looks bad. No,

1:18:07

I'm just going about what

1:18:09

you're saying. That he got

1:18:11

all these advantages. And I

1:18:14

seen a lot of people, even

1:18:16

in my program, they said,

1:18:18

everybody said in my program that

1:18:20

Kichon going to run over

1:18:22

him. He going to put the same

1:18:24

thing you said, right? I'm

1:18:26

telling anybody well, then if you

1:18:29

don't do it, then we're gonna

1:18:31

start looking at kichon the wrong

1:18:33

way Because it and and what

1:18:35

I got from the inside and

1:18:37

from all these people from top

1:18:39

rank Some of these people from

1:18:41

top rank is that kichon a

1:18:43

sure if he want to face

1:18:46

andy So if he cannot pass

1:18:48

over all these advantages Easy with

1:18:50

the los Santos then we never

1:18:52

gonna see him. He better never

1:18:54

mention Andy Cruz,

1:18:57

because Andy already know how

1:18:59

to beat him. And Andy

1:19:01

just getting better by day,

1:19:03

you know? Training him in

1:19:05

Philly and all this stuff,

1:19:07

so... Bro, nobody thinks

1:19:09

training in Philly is helping him.

1:19:12

And Andy hasn't shown that he's

1:19:14

ready right now because he almost

1:19:17

got killed by Morang. And

1:19:19

since then, he hasn't in with

1:19:21

no bunch of... since

1:19:23

then they haven't put them in with

1:19:25

no puncher. You think it's a

1:19:27

coincidence that this guy? You always like

1:19:29

to add all that craziness. He

1:19:31

never was in trouble with Moran. That's

1:19:33

boxing, man. And then you're

1:19:35

talking about feeling. You're talking about feeling.

1:19:37

You're talking about feeling. But listen,

1:19:40

you don't want to give me a chance. Don't

1:19:42

go, Igor. The Morrell fans, they

1:19:44

don't say that, oh, he

1:19:46

almost dropped Benavidez. Yes or

1:19:48

no? Yes,

1:19:50

I know. So why

1:19:52

can't I say that Moran

1:19:54

hurt Andy? Exactly.

1:20:01

Every time I bring it up, he

1:20:03

acts like it didn't happen. Now,

1:20:06

Johnny. Now,

1:20:08

Johnny, hold on a minute. Round

1:20:10

one. Outside of the Moran

1:20:12

fight. Do you

1:20:15

think it's a coincidence that this

1:20:17

dude that he's being mandated to

1:20:19

fight got like a 40 % knockout

1:20:21

ratio? Papa they making

1:20:23

sure he's good. They don't want

1:20:25

to fucking fumble the bag before

1:20:27

he fight Sean Bro, they seen

1:20:29

a journey man. Now almost knock

1:20:32

him out, bro Each hand right

1:20:34

hand. It wasn't even close man.

1:20:36

The next sequence the dude was

1:20:38

no cow. You right, you know

1:20:40

You're right. The next sequence. You're

1:20:42

right. He took two steps to

1:20:44

the side and knocked out the

1:20:46

dude. No, no, no,

1:20:48

no. Not the next sequence.

1:20:50

Even Floyd, even Floyd, even

1:20:52

Floyd got hit, flushed a

1:20:54

couple times like that and

1:20:56

wobbled and all that. came

1:20:59

back, the conditioning, the conditioning

1:21:01

from Philly. But

1:21:03

guess what happened? But guess what happened

1:21:05

to Floyd? You don't want to talk

1:21:07

about examples. Yeah, but OK, I love

1:21:09

your example. Because guess what, Johnny, don't

1:21:11

we still talk about Mosley landing that

1:21:13

right hand on Floyd? Yeah.

1:21:17

And now you said they don't

1:21:19

get good in Philly, right? But

1:21:21

look what Stephen Fulton done. didn't

1:21:23

say that. I didn't say that.

1:21:25

I said. We

1:21:27

don't believe he's getting better in

1:21:29

Philly. Well, I'm not saying you

1:21:31

can't get good in Philly Well,

1:21:34

I haven't seen that and all

1:21:36

I've seen is the opposition get

1:21:38

less look at boots look at

1:21:40

falting and now No, no boots

1:21:42

is a special talent boots is

1:21:44

a special and I need to

1:21:46

but what we haven't he hasn't

1:21:49

proven that yet And he's a

1:21:51

special talent with a super special

1:21:53

talent with with now with a

1:21:55

Philly style now with the Philly

1:21:57

style inside him and all this

1:21:59

with the way they stay training

1:22:01

Philly But I'm gonna let round

1:22:04

once talk because obviously he wants

1:22:06

to get in but just ask

1:22:08

yourselves why isn't he in there

1:22:10

with another puncher? He in there

1:22:12

going in there in business going

1:22:14

for the first for for his

1:22:16

first title That's it. No,

1:22:18

I think it's a case. I think

1:22:21

it's a case where that the the

1:22:23

coaches see exactly what I'm about to

1:22:25

say. Yeah, he be key

1:22:27

Sean Davis because he's more

1:22:29

catered to an amateur style. He

1:22:31

was really good and Cuban

1:22:33

fighters are really they're better than

1:22:36

us at that. But when

1:22:38

it comes to a professional style,

1:22:40

you can see that they're not rushing

1:22:42

them all along real fast because. He's

1:22:45

great. He's good. He's talented,

1:22:47

but he nice to stop toward

1:22:49

he needs to start to

1:22:51

adapt the more pro style where

1:22:53

key Sean Davis is style

1:22:55

is adapted to that more I

1:22:57

think the fight will look

1:23:00

totally different right now and These

1:23:02

kids are not kids anymore.

1:23:04

Keyshawn's coming into his own and

1:23:06

Andy Cruz look great, but

1:23:08

And if we were talking the

1:23:10

amateurs, he beats key Sean

1:23:12

in the pros. I'm not too

1:23:14

sure Did you know

1:23:16

that he beat Qichong in the

1:23:18

hours to while he was a

1:23:20

pro? Oh Who

1:23:22

is a you can't beat both? Qichong

1:23:25

was a pro went back Qichong

1:23:27

was a pro and went back

1:23:29

to the Olympics After after debuting

1:23:31

with top ring and making a

1:23:33

couple of fights in No, no,

1:23:35

no to the Olympics. It's illegal.

1:23:37

Sesa. No, that's legal Sesa kitchen

1:23:39

three he got three fights. He

1:23:41

got three fight good You could

1:23:43

round one, but but Caesar are

1:23:46

you sure it was with top

1:23:48

ring remember? He's I think he

1:23:50

started with Matt room. I don't

1:23:52

know if it was with who

1:23:54

he was he went pro first

1:23:56

and then he went back to

1:23:58

the Olympics and he got three

1:24:00

or four fights in as a

1:24:02

pro and then he And

1:24:05

then he he fought a Andy

1:24:07

in the in the in the

1:24:09

Olympics and Andy beating just like

1:24:11

that So I Seen a guy

1:24:14

get a decision in the Olympics

1:24:16

that I felt was a robbery

1:24:18

They said he beat a guy

1:24:20

by the name of Mayweather, Jr

1:24:22

And I didn't think he fell

1:24:24

out. He lost that fight neither.

1:24:26

So I really don't trust Olympic

1:24:28

scoring The guy that

1:24:30

beat a Juanita Lopez in the

1:24:32

Olympics, right? He was a

1:24:35

pro too. He's a pro too.

1:24:37

He's a he's a he

1:24:39

got a A bunch of fights

1:24:41

in a pro and then

1:24:43

he went to the Olympics too.

1:24:45

So that tells you that

1:24:47

a Andy beat him already as

1:24:49

a pro but in the

1:24:51

Olympics Amen. We

1:24:54

wasting time because, again, the matchroom, believe

1:24:56

this shit, they would have been put Andean

1:24:58

with a name that we could fucking

1:25:00

talk about. Key

1:25:02

Sean has been in

1:25:04

with Pedraza, Meduano, Albright,

1:25:08

Gustavo, Berancek, and now Edwin. Like,

1:25:10

he got names that we could

1:25:12

talk about. You know, well, he

1:25:14

nobody talking about morang. Only thing

1:25:16

we say about morang is that

1:25:18

he hurt Andy We don't never

1:25:20

be like, yo, you're gonna watch

1:25:22

morang. He's about to fight He

1:25:24

fought your minor teeth, too Beesah

1:25:26

brain Beesah. We talked about fighting

1:25:28

morang. No, no, you're not listening

1:25:30

I'm talking about we don't talk

1:25:32

about morang fighting someone. He's always

1:25:34

the beesah Did you talk about

1:25:36

Francesco Patera? No, man. No.

1:25:38

Okay. So it's the same

1:25:40

thing. It's that's K. Sean opponent

1:25:42

right there. So it's always

1:25:45

like that now. And this

1:25:47

is a discussion that we will

1:25:49

have to wait if one day K.

1:25:51

Sean decides to fight him or

1:25:53

goes to 140. Why do you keep

1:25:55

waiting on K. Sean? Why can't

1:25:57

be matchroom just like they sent to

1:25:59

offer the fucking Brian Norman? Why

1:26:01

do you keep saying this K. Sean? Andy

1:26:03

in Las Vegas Andy told kitchen late.

1:26:05

Let's make it happen and he

1:26:07

didn't want to tell Andy's people center

1:26:10

offer Caesar you better than this

1:26:12

You know how this is the champion

1:26:14

now the top rank is the

1:26:16

one who say who got to say

1:26:18

look we want to fight that's

1:26:20

it or not So so so you

1:26:22

telling me Andy and matron cannot

1:26:24

call Bob They can call they've been

1:26:26

calling they've been telling them look

1:26:28

we want to fight do some and

1:26:30

they say The

1:26:33

next time let I give you an

1:26:35

assignment. Yo, I love how you you you

1:26:37

love no guys, man No, no, no,

1:26:39

no, it's not about how I love this

1:26:41

guy I know what is going on

1:26:43

and I believe in these guys and as

1:26:45

my Caribbean program like people call it

1:26:47

But it's not a problem, right? But I

1:26:50

put it like this and you know,

1:26:52

I never fail on this Because it when

1:26:54

I tell you something that when I

1:26:56

write you a message, you know, it's because

1:26:58

I know some right the next time

1:27:00

you have bright good money here Right. Yeah,

1:27:02

you know our buddy Brad, right? Yeah,

1:27:05

you're gonna ask him Why you think do

1:27:07

you think K -tion want to fight Andy?

1:27:09

And let's see what the answer he

1:27:11

gonna give you because he had honest guy

1:27:13

He always been honest with you. So

1:27:15

the next time you bring him, don't forget

1:27:17

Tell him Caesar say that he knows

1:27:19

me Caesar said that told me to ask

1:27:22

you if case if you think K -tion

1:27:24

want to fight Andy Cruz and watch

1:27:26

the answer he's going to give you. And

1:27:28

then you're going to tell me, oh,

1:27:30

you, you, and that's from his company. That's

1:27:33

top brand. But they honest, they

1:27:36

don't think he want to fight Andy.

1:27:38

Like, like if he's sure that

1:27:40

he want to fight Andy, you know,

1:27:42

he's not sure in Puerto Rico,

1:27:44

he just went to get his belt

1:27:46

and somebody asked him also. And

1:27:48

it's like, he avoided like Oh,

1:27:50

no, no, I don't know who

1:27:52

him. So yeah, yeah, because I

1:27:54

will feel the same way. He

1:27:56

hasn't done anything. He's living off

1:27:58

of my name and beat me

1:28:01

in the amateurs. We in the

1:28:03

pros. Those are the crazy record.

1:28:05

Those are the craziest excuses. We this

1:28:07

is it. This is it. This is

1:28:09

a this is an Olympic gold medal.

1:28:11

Imagine if they do that with a

1:28:13

what's the name? A Loma Chenco. How

1:28:16

many people going to say

1:28:18

on his third fight? If Salido

1:28:20

say yeah No, what did

1:28:22

what these dudes have done what

1:28:24

these dudes have done? No,

1:28:26

you're right. Perfect. Everybody like you

1:28:29

know what? He fought

1:28:31

be like what this dude

1:28:33

have done, you know

1:28:35

Caesar you know why Orlando

1:28:37

couldn't say that Because

1:28:39

top ranked believed in Loma

1:28:42

and they made the

1:28:44

offer to Salido Why you

1:28:46

think Salido never gave

1:28:48

the rematch? Because top

1:28:50

rank didn't make the offer

1:28:52

good enough. You keep digging a

1:28:54

hole. Matron don't believe

1:28:57

in Indio. They would have made

1:28:59

the offer. Oh, yeah, listen,

1:29:01

listen, Johnny, Johnny, please enter logic

1:29:03

here. You got the

1:29:05

fighter that beat Key Sean

1:29:07

not once, twice. Four,

1:29:09

four times. Four times. Look at

1:29:11

this. What times? What are you waiting

1:29:13

for? Johnny

1:29:16

your fighters the one up and hold

1:29:18

on Johnny. Let's just talk facts. Has

1:29:20

Andy Cruz ever sold 10 ,000 tickets? No

1:29:23

does Andy is a world

1:29:25

title. It's a different

1:29:27

world title. No, but you're

1:29:29

going on a difference. Let

1:29:32

me let me get

1:29:35

land the plane Caesar does

1:29:37

Andy Cruz headline. Not

1:29:40

yet. But if you're Mattroom,

1:29:42

you know Andy Cruz beat

1:29:44

Kishon four times. So you

1:29:46

telling me, all you gotta

1:29:48

do is do what Mattroom

1:29:50

already did. They paid Charles

1:29:52

Martin $5 .8 million because

1:29:54

they knew AJ could beat

1:29:56

him. What's the

1:29:58

problem, Johnny? Why is this

1:30:00

man in denial? What's the

1:30:02

problem? It's not the same

1:30:04

situation. You're bringing situations that

1:30:06

you have to look at

1:30:09

the way, the honest way.

1:30:11

And the honest way is Andy

1:30:13

came a little bit later than

1:30:15

Kishon. They already got a plan

1:30:17

with Kishon. When Andy came

1:30:19

in from the beginning, it wasn't

1:30:21

named before. They even was champion

1:30:23

before Kishon was champion. They

1:30:25

told him, hey, let's do it. but

1:30:28

he don't want to do it. Now he

1:30:30

is a champion and now Andy is

1:30:32

going for his championship to see if they

1:30:34

make it a unification bout. That's it.

1:30:36

And Andy gonna end up probably try to

1:30:38

have to fight the winner of Muratayah

1:30:40

and Abdullah F. Which is a tough fight.

1:30:43

You know? You

1:30:45

in denial Caesar. I see

1:30:47

that shit right now.

1:30:49

It's just a time gonna

1:30:51

tell us. Time gonna

1:30:53

tell us. So I'm keeping up

1:30:56

with my Caribbean. I keep it

1:30:58

up with my Caribbean people who

1:31:00

you got on on Pueyo and

1:31:02

I'm surreal So I'm gonna leave

1:31:04

but yeah, you need yeah, I

1:31:06

got real all day I Got

1:31:08

so real just like a diamonds

1:31:10

over Shiraz. I'm Puerto Rican and

1:31:12

I'm going with Pueyo all day

1:31:14

and I'm poor like I get

1:31:17

respected And I am will play

1:31:19

you all day. I know that

1:31:21

That's okay. to see I don't

1:31:23

want see what you're gonna go down with play

1:31:25

or I understand I understand you're gonna go down

1:31:27

with play or because Matisse is gonna knock him

1:31:29

out What did you think of the play your

1:31:31

Martin fight though? Where

1:31:34

you're beating where you're beating wrong

1:31:36

wrong wrong wrong um play you

1:31:38

didn't beat sandal martin sandal martin

1:31:40

didn't know how to close the

1:31:42

deal He doesn't know how to

1:31:44

close the fight and that's how

1:31:46

he lost against deal Okay,

1:31:48

he don't know how to close the show. Yeah, but

1:31:51

it was a tough fight. It was a tough fight.

1:31:53

Had he known how to close the show, he wouldn't

1:31:55

be champion. You know how good

1:31:57

his Puyo is because Puyo got hurt on the

1:31:59

third How good is he? How

1:32:01

good is he that he didn't

1:32:03

knock out? He didn't knock

1:32:05

out Gary Antoine Russell. He didn't

1:32:08

knock out Sandra Martin. He

1:32:10

didn't stop any of these guys.

1:32:12

Tell me both of them

1:32:14

wait But round one now you

1:32:16

saying you got to stop

1:32:19

somebody to be good. Yeah, I'm

1:32:21

saying what my voice maybe

1:32:23

I should have cleared it up.

1:32:25

Maybe I don't think he

1:32:27

has enough power punching power to

1:32:29

stop super But the thing

1:32:32

is Why does he know like

1:32:34

listen, yo, I'm not understanding

1:32:36

why you think he needs that

1:32:38

to win this fight Listen,

1:32:41

okay, because can I explain? They

1:32:43

asked me a question. Don't what

1:32:45

where my investigation comes from all

1:32:47

the men that stood in front

1:32:50

of Subriel that tried the same

1:32:52

thing. He had a lot of

1:32:54

powerful men with good power boxers.

1:32:56

They all tried to box them

1:32:58

five undefeated fighters he may quit

1:33:00

on the stool. I've seen this

1:33:02

story time and time again. Ian

1:33:05

Paro did a great job spinning

1:33:07

them clinching them in the middle

1:33:09

of the ring. And he got

1:33:11

one over on Subriel that night.

1:33:13

Think he learned from his thing

1:33:15

but second loss man. You guys

1:33:17

got to stop thinking this dude's

1:33:20

invincible when he's got He got

1:33:22

beat twice and he was a

1:33:24

favorite twice underdogs beat him I

1:33:26

was in Puerto Rico. I watched

1:33:28

him lose but what I'm saying

1:33:30

is this what I'm saying is

1:33:32

this just because Liam Pearl beat

1:33:34

him that doesn't mean that Alberto

1:33:37

Pueblo beat him. And just because

1:33:39

he has two losses doesn't mean

1:33:41

that I'm saying that he can't

1:33:43

lose. What I'm saying straight up,

1:33:46

Alberto Pueblo is not him. And I'm

1:33:48

saying Matias is going to whoop his

1:33:50

ass. I don't care about anybody else.

1:33:52

But those Alberto Pueblo is his style. The

1:33:55

boxing clinic that he put on

1:33:57

Gary Antoine Russell is not going to

1:33:59

work. And when that

1:34:01

time comes, we'll be here. Some

1:34:04

people think they'll find out. Some people

1:34:06

think that Antoine Punch is way

1:34:08

harder than Subria. I

1:34:10

think that Antoine Russell

1:34:12

has knocked out power.

1:34:14

I think Subria Matias

1:34:16

has bloodshed in power.

1:34:19

I don't know. I'd rather get

1:34:21

knocked out than smacked by a

1:34:23

sledgehammer all night. The

1:34:25

amount of damage fighters take on

1:34:27

taking on a fighter such as

1:34:29

Subria Matias, sometimes you got to

1:34:31

ask yourself at what price. Your

1:34:33

fighters not getting out of that

1:34:35

ring without taking damage. I know

1:34:38

right now I didn't see bottle

1:34:40

take damage. Yeah, I've seen him

1:34:42

get hit by by a guy

1:34:44

Sandal Martin that couldn't you know,

1:34:46

I went since the last knock

1:34:48

out Oh I didn't see Oh

1:34:50

I'm not sure if I seen

1:34:52

him take damage by a guy

1:34:54

like supra that kind of damage,

1:34:56

but that's my point he Before

1:35:00

them that he didn't take that damage. Oh,

1:35:02

no, no, I'm

1:35:04

sorry. I'm sorry. I'm

1:35:07

sorry I'm Johnny

1:35:09

by the way, what's

1:35:11

your name? Edwin,

1:35:13

what's up, Johnny? How you doing, brother? Yeah,

1:35:16

chilling, chilling. Nah, I got to give you props,

1:35:18

bro. You ride and die with surreal, bro. No,

1:35:22

no, no. I ride and die with a warrior.

1:35:24

Yo, Ayo, I want TBV to know, this

1:35:26

is the first time ever in TBV history, I

1:35:28

had three Puerto Ricans on the panel. Stop

1:35:31

it. All three of y 'all

1:35:33

Puerto Ricans. Yo, and not

1:35:35

for nothing, I got to be honest, bro.

1:35:37

I'm glad to see y 'all. I'm

1:35:47

glad I'm glad to see

1:35:49

this and say saw on

1:35:52

the same panel We

1:36:06

keep talking we keep talking on the back

1:36:08

today. He played me before he told me. Hey,

1:36:10

can you try that? Let go do it.

1:36:12

I know you was gonna be here. So I

1:36:14

said I do a I was gonna send

1:36:16

you a picture as soon as I find it.

1:36:18

Did you ever saw? Hey,

1:36:21

the body boys,

1:36:23

they said the body

1:36:25

boys. Have

1:36:28

you ever thought that picture of

1:36:30

the the way Pueyo got hurt on

1:36:32

the fight with Sandra Martin? That

1:36:35

he pulled that muscle and got

1:36:37

that big bruise on his a tight

1:36:39

and all that stuff because of

1:36:41

Yeah, he was so he was that's

1:36:43

why he got a stop and

1:36:45

like after the third round He like

1:36:48

did a different plane because he

1:36:50

cannot move much. So if he beat

1:36:52

Martin like that Even though my

1:36:54

man's is right probably Martin didn't know

1:36:56

how to close it then that's

1:36:58

when you know how good Pueyo is

1:37:01

and also Pueyo is too big

1:37:03

for Subriel too big Extra to be

1:37:05

you seem Pueyo plenty of times.

1:37:07

I seem Pueyo spot dollars to be

1:37:09

to be I know how big

1:37:11

he is So players in a box

1:37:13

and bro, he's not gonna stand

1:37:16

in the middle and trade with him

1:37:18

like the last Mexican did You

1:37:20

know and that's nobody else type of

1:37:22

fight man. Like you said, he

1:37:24

wants to break you down break your

1:37:26

will bro. Pray you're so smart

1:37:28

for that, bro You know, I mean

1:37:31

I don't know. I see that

1:37:33

as a bad stylistic matchup for Subriel

1:37:35

personally. Well,

1:37:37

I saw that all happen. I

1:37:39

saw Ponce come out against Subriel, right?

1:37:41

I saw Ponce come out and

1:37:43

he threw a hundred punches in that

1:37:45

first round. I saw a lot

1:37:47

of boxes go in there with Subriel, bounce

1:37:50

around them. And then all of a

1:37:52

sudden, somewhere in the fight, you could

1:37:54

see it in their face. They

1:37:57

stop moving around. They decide,

1:37:59

let me punch with them. And

1:38:01

then all of a sudden

1:38:03

it looks like just check, check,

1:38:05

check, me. And they start

1:38:07

fighting Subiel fight. There was

1:38:10

a lot of guys that went in there

1:38:12

and we're trying to keep their legs about

1:38:14

them. And Subiel

1:38:16

has kind of like

1:38:18

a catering to

1:38:20

his punch. They're like

1:38:22

tap, tap, tap, boom, tap,

1:38:25

boom, tap, boom. And I

1:38:27

just think that. For

1:38:29

God's sake, look at his last

1:38:31

fight. He stopped hitting this guy

1:38:33

because I think in fear of

1:38:35

really damaging him. That guy was

1:38:37

in the third round. It looked like he was in the

1:38:39

ninth round. The kind of

1:38:42

damage you take early from him. You

1:38:44

got to be able to go to a

1:38:46

dark. Yo, I was in Puerto Rico and

1:38:48

in that seventh round, me and Pearl was going

1:38:51

to quit. They

1:38:53

willed them back in that fight.

1:38:55

His corner. It's

1:38:57

a lot of they they all

1:38:59

talk about it. Yo that it's

1:39:01

like the punches rattle. It's like

1:39:03

almost he hits too hard to

1:39:05

knock you out You ever hear

1:39:07

that? Well, he

1:39:09

punches so hard that it kind

1:39:11

of wakes you up to and

1:39:13

imagine getting smacked around like that

1:39:15

Next check you what's up? Yeah

1:39:22

But look, I think you can do it. be

1:39:24

able to do it, too. I think you

1:39:26

can dance around him. Yes, I do think he

1:39:28

does, but I just think that, um, you

1:39:30

know, maybe it might be a little

1:39:32

terrible tickle. So you got Berlango or

1:39:34

Cheetahs? I'm sorry to interrupt you, man.

1:39:37

Berlango or Cheetah? Berlango, of course.

1:39:39

Que pasa. Okay. Okay. And

1:39:41

what's the other fight? Brutal

1:39:45

stoppage. Okay. And...

1:39:51

Actually, actually, I interviewed Carlos

1:39:53

Adames yesterday. He said that

1:39:55

Shiraz can punch, bro. He

1:39:57

said que él sintió todo golpe.

1:39:59

He definitely said that... I forgot

1:40:02

the name. He said somebody else

1:40:04

punches harder than Shiraz, but he

1:40:06

said you could feel Shiraz's punches

1:40:08

and, you know,