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ones who get it done. Hello,

1:29

and welcome to that Peter Crouch podcast with

1:31

me, Peter Crouch. Chris

1:33

is away, unfortunately, again. And

1:36

Sid, you've gone back

1:39

to your couch. Yeah, gone

1:41

back to my

1:43

usual habitat. I just

1:45

needed this blanket around

1:47

me. And I didn't want to get above my station

1:49

and keep getting in the chair. Like

1:51

I said before, I want to keep this job.

1:53

I like where I am. I don't want to

1:56

rock the boat. And again, we've

1:58

got no mic. So, for

2:00

naked. How are you

2:02

feeling with the hand situation?

2:05

a weird thing talking on camera, isn't it?

2:07

You only watch Angel, he kind of looks

2:09

down a bit. And then, you

2:12

know, like, look, I mean, how do

2:14

you feel with no... What do you feel about

2:16

your hand situation? I don't

2:18

mind hands. I'm quite a sort of an

2:20

expressive person. So I

2:22

don't mind you, but it just feels

2:24

weird, I think, because we're doing this...

2:26

with you obviously remote, so I

2:28

can hear you and me at my AirPods.

2:31

I can see you on a screen. I

2:33

think it'll be much better when we're all

2:35

together round here, you know, when

2:37

we crack a joke and we come over and we touch

2:39

each other. I think

2:41

it's going to be all right. But yeah, we're

2:43

getting used to it, mate. No one likes change,

2:45

but change is for the better. I've just seen

2:47

Ashley Carl walk past the window. I

2:52

love the way he's casually just saying, I've

2:54

just seen actually Colbert pass the window. Can we

2:56

casually just get him in on the pass? What

3:00

do you think? I'm

3:02

getting here, son. All

3:06

right, Sid. Well, listen, I did

3:08

promise you, I'm sitting here, you

3:10

know, just on holiday and as

3:12

I've looked over the window. I've

3:15

seen Ashley Cole walk past. So

3:20

there he is. Right, Ash? Have you

3:22

joined your time away? Yeah, I

3:24

have. It's been

3:26

quite a busy month for me,

3:28

obviously, preparing for the Euros in

3:31

the summer. So

3:33

it's good to just get four or five

3:35

days away and obviously enjoying your hospitality,

3:37

bumbling into your arms. You don't even know

3:39

me. He's

3:41

just strolling around. We had a

3:44

little game of golf yesterday, it was good. Who

3:47

won? who

3:50

won? It wasn't either of us, was it?

3:52

Yeah, Dan won. Yeah, unfortunately. I've

3:55

hurt my back since. I was throwing

3:57

Johnny in the pool the other day

3:59

and pulled something in my back and

4:01

I'm just getting round at the moment.

4:04

not gutted as well because I'm so looking forward to playing golf,

4:06

are you? Yeah, it is. brilliant over here

4:08

and into the golf. Amazing. was a

4:10

great day. We

4:12

just didn't play to our top ability,

4:14

did we? You know, we'll be back stronger

4:17

next year. You two are making me

4:19

feel sick, by the way. You're out of order. the

4:22

least two. Oh, yeah, the

4:24

back, yeah, it's great over here. Steve,

4:27

the fridge is stacked up with booze,

4:29

so actually Cole just walks past the

4:31

window to see you laugh. So,

4:35

what we're doing today, actually, we're talking

4:37

about kind of season reviews, and obviously

4:39

there's no better person to talk about

4:41

the young players, obviously, you being involved

4:44

with the 21s. Who's impressed you

4:46

this year? Obviously, the two

4:48

lads at Arsenal, Lewis

4:50

Skelly, obviously feels like he's... burst on the

4:52

scene, but you would have known him

4:54

well before that when the area as

4:56

well. Yeah, if I'm honest, I

4:58

didn't really know Miles. I think

5:00

that word is key, right? You

5:02

know, he did burst onto the scene.

5:04

I think everyone affiliated with Arsenal

5:06

wouldn't know who he is, but of

5:08

course, you know, you're watching it

5:11

one week and then someone's injured and

5:13

then, you know, Miles is making

5:15

his first appearance. And, you know, the

5:17

conversations around his name was high. But

5:20

if you're not... into the Arsenal youth

5:22

team and know how they're developing plays. You

5:24

might not know of them as much.

5:26

And then, yeah, as you mentioned, he's come

5:28

into the scene, he's walked into that

5:30

team and he plays with a good personality,

5:33

maturity, and

5:35

he's shown at such a young age that

5:37

the game intelligence, the football mind, he's got

5:40

it at such a young age. And it's

5:42

brilliant to see Ethan, another

5:44

one, of course. kind of

5:46

limited on game time but you expect

5:48

it because he's got top players in front

5:50

of him and he's still a young boy

5:52

developing and maturing as well so yeah that's

5:54

just two that there's been some great performances.

5:56

Yeah what else have you got? So I

5:58

know you're a big fan of Kurtis

6:00

Jones aren't you? Kurtis Jones, yeah. Yeah

6:03

so from our 21st perspective, Andy

6:06

Gordon obviously he's had a

6:08

very good season with Newcastle

6:10

injured. just coming back

6:12

from injury, but again, you

6:14

know, developed and got better and

6:17

better season after season. And

6:19

now he's hitting, I feel,

6:21

elite level mode. Curtis

6:23

Jones, again, very versatile player,

6:25

can play in any position. I feel

6:27

he's got the attributes to do everything. He's

6:31

shown that he's got the belief in

6:33

himself. Very confident

6:35

boy, but not in a nasty way, not in a

6:37

bad way. He's very humble in what he does. and

6:41

yeah plays for Liverpool right back now

6:43

at times when needed because he's that

6:45

good so yeah I'm buzzing to see

6:47

him then you've got Morgan Gibbs White

6:50

who of course having a great season

6:52

with not in the forest again I

6:54

say one to watch out for but

6:56

in my opinion he can go to

6:58

any level we want so I think

7:00

he's that good. The

7:02

room was about Man City in for

7:04

him at Morgan's White. Where'd you stand

7:06

on that can he slip into that?

7:09

As I mentioned I fit. If you

7:11

just look at the potential and hear

7:13

his profile of a player, again, he

7:15

can do everything. He can run forward.

7:17

He can run backwards. And we always

7:19

speak about that motivation to run backwards.

7:21

He has that. He can

7:23

unlock defences. He

7:26

can score goals and assist. So there's

7:28

not a lot that he can't do. And

7:31

yeah, I'm not surprised with a

7:33

top team like Man City chasing him,

7:35

to be honest. And Morgan Rogers, similar

7:37

as well. Ash, sorry, there was

7:39

a couple of names I wanted to

7:42

throw at Ash just quickly. One

7:44

was, I know you were at Stella's

7:46

Park the other week. Adam Waterton,

7:48

obviously a lot of Palace fans rave

7:50

about him. I've seen him a

7:52

couple of times. I love watching

7:54

him live. I

7:56

watch him and he's got great talent,

7:58

but I still think there's so much

8:00

more to come. For me, in my

8:02

opinion, he needs to just produce a

8:04

few more goals and assist to his

8:06

name. To probably take him to the

8:08

next level but i've been really impressed

8:11

with him so far. Yeah another one

8:13

city in terms of you know attributes

8:15

and potential off as you mentioned i

8:17

think he has everything i understand where

8:19

you're coming from when you go in

8:21

maybe needs to do more but is

8:23

that is that the fact of you

8:25

know. Maybe the way

8:27

palace play you know. these holding

8:29

midfielders this day and age, you know, they've

8:31

evolved, they're not the old, and I'm not disrespecting

8:33

anyone, I played with a McAleely who was

8:35

unreal, but you know, like the enforcers that just

8:38

sit in front of the back four, they're

8:40

kind of going out of the game now, you

8:42

know, you've got to be able to carry

8:44

the ball, you've got to be able to run

8:46

with the ball, you've got to be able

8:48

to break play up, got to be able to

8:50

put yourself in positions where you can intercept

8:52

balls, but then you've got to start attacks, then

8:54

you've got to finish attacks at times. So

8:56

you need to be an all -rounder, and yeah,

8:58

I totally agree, you want to see a little

9:00

bit more from that. And I think with

9:02

more experience, more games, maybe a little bit more

9:05

pressure on him, he will evolve and he

9:07

will become the player that everyone knows he can

9:09

become. Yeah. The

9:11

other one was he's probably more breaking

9:13

through now at Manchester City. Is it Niko

9:15

O 'Reilly? I know he's obviously a younger

9:17

one, but he's breaking through in a

9:19

moment where probably men see it been a

9:21

little bit shaky. He's come on and

9:23

he's made an impact in games. How much

9:25

have you seen of him? Yeah,

9:27

a lot. Again,

9:30

the pathway with England is quite strong

9:32

and good and we're looking at

9:34

multiple players all through the age groups

9:36

to go who's next and when

9:38

are they going to feature for us.

9:41

And yeah, similar to a

9:43

Rico where again seamlessly

9:45

steps into the team and

9:48

plays with a great

9:50

maturity, you can trust them.

9:52

Ultimately, you know, Pep trusts him to

9:54

play weak and weak, not weak and weak

9:56

out, but gives him the opportunity to

9:58

play and a platform to play. And then

10:00

now he's not saying cement in his

10:02

place, of course not, but Pep certainly trusts

10:04

him and plays him at crucial parts

10:06

of the game. I think he showed it

10:08

against Bulmuff when he came on, changed

10:10

the game a little bit in his dynamicness

10:13

to run behind and run forward, sets

10:15

up two goals and then he plays against.

10:17

Who did he just score against? Palace,

10:19

was it on the weekend? Exactly.

10:21

I was there. And

10:23

you see like he's being trusted

10:25

in these moments, which is again

10:27

a good sign that they're developing

10:29

and maturing a good rate. Ash,

10:31

is there any obviously you look

10:33

you look throughout the ages. Is

10:35

there any any players that we

10:37

or fans might not have heard

10:39

of that you think might be

10:41

the next big thing, you know,

10:43

like Max Down and someone who

10:45

is only what? 15, 16, isn't

10:47

he, right? But so many fans

10:49

are already talking about him. We

10:51

know him a little bit and

10:53

have seen lots of clips from

10:56

him. How good can he be?

10:58

And is there another name that

11:00

you could say to us to

11:02

keep an eye out for? Yeah,

11:04

there's... Put me on the spot

11:06

a little bit because I haven't

11:08

got my depth chart. But

11:10

no, with Max again, another

11:12

one that came through the

11:14

Arsenal ranks, starting to...

11:16

Obviously, you know, we've... online

11:19

now, you get to see

11:21

little clips of these players.

11:23

Do you agree with all that? You know,

11:26

there's little things that come out from the

11:28

club and the kid's 16 and he's already

11:30

getting compared to players who have been playing

11:32

for, you know, 20, 30 years. It's

11:34

tough because I don't know how they

11:37

handle pressure because ultimately as much as

11:39

we... Firstly, you're giving these players a

11:41

platform, right? So I don't know. I'm

11:43

not going to throw the name on

11:45

here because I don't want to. But

11:47

there's... companies on on Instagram that post

11:49

uh youth team games and clips of

11:51

players and it's great because the players

11:53

are getting exposure right but on the

11:55

flip side of that is also adding

11:57

pressure and do you want to add

12:00

pressure to a 16 year old like

12:02

the time will come yeah if they

12:04

can continue to do what they're doing

12:06

and playing well and you know really

12:08

harping on their trade everyone will know

12:10

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12:12

There's a lot of pressure on these

12:14

kids. We're talking about him. Has he

12:16

even played the first team game yet?

12:18

No, no, no. That's I'm saying. In

12:21

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12:23

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12:26

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12:28

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12:30

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12:32

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a little bit and, you know, let time

14:33

take its toll and hopefully they'll get the opportunity

14:35

and never want to know their name. Where

14:37

did you stand on that, Lewis Skelly? There's

14:41

confidence and then there's like an over

14:43

arrogance, do you know I mean? Where did

14:45

you stand on that when he's taking

14:47

a piss out of Holland a little bit

14:49

with a celebration and certain things there? There's

14:52

a real small margin

14:54

between being really confident and

14:56

being like overconfident. I

14:59

totally understand and see where you're

15:01

coming from. But that's, that is

15:03

the line between confidence and arrogance

15:05

is someone's opinion, right? I could

15:07

just say, I'm just

15:09

super confident. I'm not arrogant. But

15:11

someone might go, no, that's arrogant. That's your

15:13

opinion. And I think what he

15:15

done in that game and what he's shown. And

15:18

I put myself back in the position when I

15:20

was a young player coming through and similar to,

15:22

you know, you and Siddy is like, when you

15:24

come through, you have to have something

15:27

different. I was playing against men and I was

15:29

at 18, 19 year old and I'm like, well,

15:31

I didn't know what that was. I didn't know

15:33

what arrogance was. I was just confident in that

15:35

I'm going to go up against him. I'm going

15:37

to give it everything. There's

15:39

certainly a line, but I

15:41

feel at such a young

15:43

age, you have to portray

15:45

and give that air of

15:47

confidence and belief in yourself

15:49

like, yeah, you're Harland, but

15:53

I'm Miles Skelly. And yeah, your island just

15:55

scored 50 goals or whatever, but I'm

15:57

also playing my trade. I'm not letting you

15:59

take my job. I want my least

16:01

doggy dog, right? So Miles has

16:03

to come across and give it, I understand

16:05

with a celebration or whatever. But

16:07

it's, come on, it's a bit of fun sometimes. And

16:10

it's how Harlan, you know,

16:12

perceives it. Was he offended? I think

16:14

that's the one who we should care about.

16:16

No one else's opinion matters. If Harlan's

16:18

offended by it, then okay, well, Miles, you

16:20

might have to say sorry, but. When

16:22

everyone else gets involved, it's just like, well,

16:25

it's an opinion, isn't it? Really good point. Now, we're

16:27

talking about the state of the league here, Ash.

16:30

Lots of people saying, obviously, that the

16:32

free that came up went down, you know,

16:34

is the gap between the championship and

16:36

the Premier League too great now for the

16:38

teams to come up and stay up. And

16:41

also, we're saying we discussed on the

16:43

pod as well. I think the middle

16:45

part of the group now, you know,

16:48

the teams like Fulham, Bournemouth.

16:52

Brentford, are they improving? Yeah,

16:54

100%. I think with the money,

16:56

obviously, the revenue that's coming into

16:58

these clubs now and what the

17:00

Premier League's giving these clubs is

17:02

giving the kind of, if you

17:04

want to say, the middle tier

17:06

towards the back end of the

17:09

bottom, an opportunity, right? So you

17:11

speak about the Brightons. I

17:13

think recruitment has to be right. Don't just

17:15

splash the money on players

17:17

that you feel won't fit, but...

17:19

were certainly catching up. And

17:21

again, you spoke about the

17:23

bottom three coming up from

17:25

the champ or how, well,

17:28

yeah, is the gap too big? I

17:30

think you have to say yes from

17:32

the champ. From the ones coming up.

17:34

champ to straight up to the prime.

17:36

There's certainly a gap, but then that

17:39

old bottom group to middle group, yeah,

17:41

they're evolving, they're getting better. The

17:44

clubs are investing in teams

17:46

and again, Let's

17:48

see next season because we've had two

17:50

teams that we never ever thought

17:52

would Be in a position they are

17:54

and in the Tottenham and Manchester

17:56

United You know the state they're in

17:58

at the moment in league position.

18:00

It's not like them. It's not normal.

18:02

So, you know, we say this

18:04

This year's league is a anomaly You

18:07

gotta disregard this. They're seeing next season.

18:09

If teams evolve, if Manu have to strengthen,

18:11

they're like 13th or 14th, and they

18:13

totten them down there, 15th, 16th, or whatever

18:15

it looks like for them. It's not

18:18

good enough, is it? So

18:20

you would think they're gonna go up

18:22

two places next year. So you go to

18:24

top seven, should look a little bit

18:26

like it has done in previous years. And

18:28

then the middle group, yeah, they've got

18:30

evolve and go again to now knock the

18:33

people like Manu's and Tottenham back off

18:35

their perch again. Can a team that not

18:37

in the forest? Can they stay in

18:39

and amongst the elite now? Or is this

18:41

one season? I can't

18:43

understand what they did. It's been, I

18:45

say a joy to watch, but as

18:47

an outsider, no influence on any team.

18:50

You're going, yeah, I like the way

18:52

they're working. Humble, you know,

18:54

they graft, they work for each other. And

18:56

I don't think it's, you know, they're

18:58

in a position where they are now through

19:00

luck. So credit to them. Can they

19:02

sustain that and continue that next season? Yes.

19:05

depends if everyone else strengthens and they

19:07

still have that belief they don't lose

19:09

any key players uh and they still

19:11

have that motivation and hunger to keep

19:13

striving to to be better uh yeah

19:15

And that's your hunger and your determination

19:18

for your golf game. Is that going

19:20

to improve next year, or are we

19:22

going to see the same story? I

19:25

was happy that we were fine with the

19:27

spoon me and him, Sidney, but I don't know

19:29

why, but he's a crock. He had a

19:31

bad back. Oh, mate. You hit them all nice,

19:33

too, mate. them all nice. All right, listen,

19:35

mate. Well, listen, I'm going to keep you on

19:37

the holiday. You know where the

19:39

fridge is. Don't

19:42

get me one as well, by

19:44

the way. See you later. I

19:46

love talking to Ash. When he

19:48

talks with such passion and stuff,

19:51

you know, you can see he's

19:53

so invested into the game and

19:55

that, and he's such a good

19:57

insight, especially that new crop that

19:59

are coming now, because he's been

20:01

there, he's done it. I mean,

20:04

he's lived that dream, that path,

20:06

that life. Just talking

20:08

about arrogance and confidence is so

20:10

good to hear. You

20:12

know what's good to It's so good that you're sitting

20:14

in the set up. Yeah, totally agree. You know

20:16

what's good to hear? You know, like we on this

20:18

podcast, we all have a laugh and a joke

20:20

about it, you know, and we listen. If you want

20:22

in -depth podcast, there's a hell of a lot of

20:24

podcast said there. We're just trying to give you

20:26

an insight into our life as footballers and have a

20:28

laugh doing it and, you know, hopefully bring a

20:31

bit of insight. But when you speak to Ash as

20:33

well, and it's so nice to get someone on

20:35

sometimes, where we just bring

20:37

it all back to actually the, you

20:39

know, the tactics to the mentality,

20:41

what it's like. And he ashes around

20:43

it. You can see how passionate

20:45

he is about football and about kind

20:48

of being a manager and improving

20:50

players. You know, he's gone down that

20:52

coaching route. And I think you

20:54

can really tell, you know, because he

20:56

is so passionate about it. And,

20:58

you know, from where he is now,

21:01

I think, obviously, yeah, you know,

21:03

he is another 21s coach. But

21:05

I really hope he branches out one

21:07

day and takes a role, you

21:10

know, a first team role, a manager's role

21:12

because I think he deserves it and I

21:14

think he'll be a credit to that club.

21:16

Yeah, yeah. I think the key

21:18

to Ashes and knowing him

21:20

and his personality and the way

21:23

that he works is that

21:25

he will get such joy out

21:27

of improving players. Now,

21:29

whether that's that group at the minute

21:31

that he's got with England or

21:33

if he does become manager and hopefully

21:35

he does get a chance that

21:37

on the pitch of making that team

21:39

obviously try and win things but

21:41

more importantly like improve individuals along the

21:43

way because I think yeah he's

21:45

definitely got that so love speaking to

21:47

him he's class. It's nice to

21:50

obviously chat to us about his thoughts

21:52

on it but just going through

21:54

league now he's got the league in

21:56

front of me obviously Southampton like

21:58

the way they approach this this season

22:00

it does. It does

22:02

flabbergast me. It really does the

22:04

way that that's happened. The

22:07

amount of mistakes they've caused for

22:09

themselves, really, from playing out the back.

22:12

Ipswich, you'd have to say, had it

22:14

go less, that being really, really poor. Other

22:18

than that, West Ham, obviously, the management

22:20

wasn't correct in the first place. I think

22:22

Graham Potter has pulled that back a

22:24

little bit. Wolves, it feels

22:26

like there was a huge problem

22:29

kind of discipline and, you know, losing

22:31

the amount of players they did. But

22:34

the biggest one's Spurs, Sid's. And where does

22:36

Spurs go from here? And they're sitting in 15th

22:38

place as we look at it the moment. What

22:42

do you see for them next year

22:44

or this year? They

22:47

shouldn't be down there. They shouldn't be

22:49

down there with the score that they've

22:51

had. Injuries has played a part, right?

22:53

And that is key. Because

22:56

you want your best players out, and does.

22:59

He's had to juggle around. Then there's been

23:01

a lot of stuff outside of it as

23:03

well, especially of late with this mole and

23:05

stuff that's coming out and leaking. And that

23:07

only ever happens when a club is in

23:09

sort of disarray, isn't it, really? Although

23:11

they're in Europe, they've got to

23:13

try and win that competition to

23:15

salvage anything from this season. It'd

23:18

be interesting to see. Is

23:20

Hans going to be there next year? Is

23:23

Spurs just a mentality of that football

23:25

club that... Just can't get things over the

23:27

line and win trophies or you know

23:29

stay in the top four or hunt for

23:31

champions league There's needs a big shake

23:33

up there now whether that's Player wise or

23:35

Again the manager or not. I'm not

23:37

I'm not too sure whether it's going to

23:40

be the owners But it's been a

23:42

really bad season for them really really bad

23:44

I know sort of spurs fans now

23:46

that not even going to games because it's

23:48

got it's got that bad So and

23:50

the same you could say for man United

23:52

because they're in and around them as

23:54

well so for For both of them, exactly

23:57

like what Ash said, it's been an

23:59

anomaly kind of season in general, but

24:01

for United especially,

24:03

what's their worst Premier

24:05

League tally in

24:07

their history? Do you

24:09

know what I find unbelievable, right? Man

24:12

United and Spurs, Spurs have kept the

24:14

same manager all season, right? Everton are

24:16

now above them, both West Side and

24:19

Spurs. I mean, it was real touch

24:21

and go where they were going to

24:23

get relegated for the next season. They're

24:26

the absolutely dire star. If

24:28

you look at Manchester United and Spurs

24:30

are both both below them in the table

24:32

at the moment. And that's what with

24:34

the same games played. Flabbergast,

24:37

to be honest. The Europa

24:39

League still an opportunity. It's still

24:41

a possibility for both of them,

24:43

though, which is which is madness,

24:45

isn't it? It's just just just

24:47

about in clubs at the Bar

24:49

Miss. And it was to trigger

24:52

me there is you could probably

24:54

say that Wolves and Everton have

24:56

probably shown more fight this year

24:58

than Manchester United and Spurs. And

25:00

they're all... Well, actually, the first

25:02

two were probably below them at

25:04

one point because they were facing

25:06

relegation, wasn't they? They've both got

25:08

themselves now to safety, but even

25:10

now they are quite safe as

25:12

such. still probably showing

25:14

more desire on the pitch than Spurs

25:16

and United, which is unacceptable. And

25:19

having said that, the teams ahead

25:21

of them, right? Our

25:23

class... Palace, Brentford,

25:25

Brighton, Fulham, Bournemouth. I

25:28

put them now in the mini -league, if you

25:30

like. I think everything will be in that next

25:32

season. West Ham could potentially be

25:34

in that mix as well. But

25:36

then I put, I'm putting

25:38

Villa and Newcastle just ahead of

25:40

that in a fight out

25:42

with Forrest, probably. Yes.

25:46

You know, because you would anticipate

25:48

that Chelsea and Manchester City

25:50

will stomp for them in and

25:52

around the top four again,

25:54

but... You'd have to put Chelsea

25:56

in that scenario as well

25:58

with Newcastle. But Newcastle and Villar

26:00

just feel like teams that

26:03

have everything geared up to potentially

26:05

be Champions League clubs in

26:07

the future. Yeah,

26:09

then to especially. They could be

26:11

classed now, really. And

26:13

this is going back probably the last two seasons, three

26:15

seasons, where they've progressed. The top

26:17

eight. I think now the

26:19

Premier League is so strong that they

26:21

would be in the top. eight

26:23

clubs chasing Champions League football year in,

26:25

year out. The other ones that

26:28

you just said, just go to that

26:30

mid -table one quickly at me league,

26:32

like you like your Brentford, your

26:34

Bournemouths, Brighton,

26:37

Fulham, they're chasing for

26:39

probably eight position, maybe like

26:41

a Europa Conference League this year,

26:43

they're having a shootout for

26:45

that. And then which leaves the

26:47

other mob shooting out for

26:49

top five. Champions League. I think

26:51

Liverpool run away with it.

26:53

I can't see any upsets or

26:55

anyone catching them. I still

26:57

see Arsenal probably finishing second. And

27:00

then it's going to be five

27:02

teams shooing it out for three places,

27:04

which is going to be, you

27:06

know, your top five for Champions League.

27:09

So then you've got, you've got

27:11

Forest, Chelsea, Man

27:13

City. Well,

27:16

she's got Arsenal. No, I'm

27:18

sitting there, aren't we? Newcastle

27:20

Villa, that's it. Newcastle Villa. So,

27:23

two big teams are going to

27:25

miss out on Champions League football

27:27

next year. Is there a case,

27:29

though, Sid, here, right? Is there

27:31

a case for your Liverpool's, your

27:33

Arsenal's, your Man City's, your Chelsea's,

27:35

not being as good as what

27:37

we're used to seeing? You know,

27:39

like, we're saying, yeah, there's

27:41

definitely been improvement from those teams in

27:43

around the mid -table, but... The reason

27:45

those mid -table sides couldn't get anywhere

27:48

near the top four previously is

27:50

because when I think about some of

27:52

those teams, those United

27:54

teams, the Liverpool

27:56

teams, the Chelsea teams,

27:59

even Spurs to a degree

28:01

to some, they were untouchable. Yeah.

28:04

And I don't think the big

28:06

teams are untouchable now. No.

28:08

And Chelsea have probably proved that this

28:10

season. Again the

28:12

amount of money that they spent they should

28:14

be probably be doing what they're better

28:16

than what they're doing But it is a

28:18

program. It is a process. They look

28:20

like it was flying up until Christmas and

28:22

then now you're looking at going Well,

28:24

they are they ahead of schedule? I don't

28:26

really know. Are they are they gonna

28:28

drop out the top five? They might not

28:31

even get champions league I mean forest

28:33

there on a bit of a slump as

28:35

well remember so they they could drop

28:37

out of it as well I Think this

28:39

this desk is this this is gonna

28:41

go down to the wire I think in

28:43

my prediction for top five, it's going

28:45

to go, I think it will literally go

28:47

down to the last game of the

28:49

season of, especially the last two places for

28:51

the fourth and fifth. Intriguing into

28:53

the season anyway, Sid's, we'll get

28:55

there. Yeah. And I'm looking

28:57

forward to the next season. The biggest,

28:59

the biggest, the most exciting league

29:01

in the world is obviously the Friday

29:03

podcast anyway. So make sure you

29:05

tune in Fridays. because, I

29:07

mean, that league's going to go to the wire.

29:10

Yeah. Let's move on to some messages. as

29:24

upon hearing so many cracking stories

29:26

of you, Crouchy, especially a reminder

29:28

of your cracking hat trick away

29:30

at Arsenal in the lovely yellow

29:32

away kit. I wanted to ask

29:34

the question about the way they

29:37

celebrations or the limbs as they're

29:39

called. Did you have

29:41

a stadium which before the game even,

29:43

before the game even started, you

29:45

were more desperate to score to see

29:47

the fans celebrate because of how

29:49

the setup was set up the stadium?

29:52

or what is the best fan celebration

29:54

you've ever seen in the stadium? I

29:56

asked this because I was watching the

29:58

Premier League years, and I love seeing

30:00

fans going absolutely bonkers on TV. The

30:03

Emirates looks good in the away end, but

30:05

stadiums like St James's Park must be a

30:07

weird one because the fans are so high

30:09

up. What are your thoughts? Keep

30:11

up the good work, fellas. Come

30:13

on, the Hibis. That's

30:15

from Murray in Boston. Murray in

30:17

Boston? Wow, yeah. Great topic, that. Joe,

30:19

what? I'm going to ask you a

30:21

question quickly. He's

30:24

talking about limbs and he's talking

30:26

about Emirates. If there's a game,

30:28

the first game that comes to

30:30

your head of limbs at the

30:32

Emirates in the away end, what

30:35

game would you say, what game

30:37

springs to your mind? Oh,

30:43

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30:45

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32:47

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32:49

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32:52

our way along That's it. That's

32:54

it. All right, that that's the one

32:56

that comes to mind that comes

32:58

to mind You just see absolute limbs

33:00

being thrown everything especially the Emirates

33:02

Listen, there's been a couple of ones

33:04

that really stick out for me

33:06

And obviously, I've talked about this many

33:08

a time, but one where I

33:11

score at the Etihad away to get

33:13

top them into the Champions League.

33:15

But you know, when I run behind

33:17

the goal, you've got

33:19

to see that. I think that,

33:21

for me, is the definition of

33:23

limbs. It's like

33:25

the jumping, the bouncing,

33:28

the people falling over. Because

33:31

I run behind the goal. And it's just I

33:33

remember looking out and just thinking that is. chaos

33:36

in that stand. That

33:38

is absolute chaos. That's

33:41

the biggest chaos I've ever seen. And

33:43

I've seen some big goals be scored and I've

33:45

seen some stadiums going mad. But

33:47

I've never seen that for me is

33:49

definition of limbs because I saw people upside

33:52

down. I saw arms. I saw heads. You

33:55

know what you say limbs? It's

33:57

just all you see is literally

33:59

different types of limbs. And I

34:01

think that is the definition of

34:03

limbs and that for me was

34:05

was the Etihad Spurs VC. Yeah,

34:08

I think as well, like, St James's Park

34:10

is now there. They're so high up, you

34:12

can't even see. You feel as though you're

34:14

just celebrating with your teammates for a year

34:16

on that one if you score up there.

34:18

But yeah, I think you're right. If anything,

34:21

where you're close to the fans and when

34:23

if they can get, not that we condone

34:25

it at all, but if they can get

34:27

over and get amongst you and a few

34:29

of them get on the pitch where it's

34:31

a last minute winner or, you know, where

34:33

they just go crazy, I think they're the

34:35

ones where, if you can try

34:37

and get in the crowd with them, it's

34:39

just like, you can't describe it, can you? It's

34:41

just so good. You're trying to get ripped

34:43

apart. The stewards are trying to do their job.

34:46

It's brilliant. One of

34:48

my favourites was in my first

34:50

season. I think the year

34:52

2000, we played Loot and Away

34:54

in the FA Cup. And

34:56

I remember scoring, I think we were 2 -0

34:59

down. And I remember scoring the goal, it

35:01

got me back to 2 -0, I think, was

35:03

a touch. And I've, and I've slide it and

35:05

I remember seeing and I don't know if

35:07

you know, like Kennerworth Road, but like behind the

35:09

away end, there's a drop, like,

35:12

like a pit. So

35:14

I've scored the goal and I've run

35:16

behind, then I've spotted my dad and

35:18

I've gone, I've gone, yeah, like, yeah,

35:20

I've pointed at him and he was

35:22

buzzing. And as he's tried to jump

35:24

on his chair or something, I've seen

35:26

him go and he's gone, he's gone

35:28

six rows down and he's ended up

35:30

in the pit at the bottom. But

35:33

obviously, everyone's rushed forward, so I thought,

35:36

as I've walked away, I've gone, you

35:38

could be dead there. I was

35:40

like, he's fallen five

35:42

rows down, and

35:44

he's getting, like, this is absolute carnage. So then

35:46

I remember thinking, oh, my God, I hope

35:48

he's all right. So I'm kind of

35:51

walking back to the halfway line. Then all of

35:53

a sudden, I see his head pop up. And

35:55

he'd give me a little wave.

35:58

I was like, yeah, and he'd give me another.

36:00

It was like another buzz, like I'd scored. I

36:02

was like, yes. My dad's, my

36:04

dad's all right. That

36:06

again, that again for me is

36:08

a definition of limbs. Yeah.

36:12

Yeah. More limbs. We all see more limbs

36:14

from now on. Phenomenal stuff, innit? Oh, it's

36:16

the best. Nothing better. Yeah.

36:18

Okay. Bonjour, fellas, regards

36:20

to your families. I'm

36:22

a listener of the Pod from

36:24

France, all the way from the

36:26

Visio era in... in 2020, to

36:28

the era with Statman Dave, to

36:30

the era with Notorious SID. Love

36:33

all the nonsense you guys come up

36:35

with, really entertaining. I live

36:37

in Bordeaux, south of

36:39

Forte -Huix. I wonder if

36:41

you guys follow Andy Carroll's

36:43

adventures recently. I do actually, yeah.

36:46

He signed last summer for

36:48

Bordeaux FC, who have been downgraded

36:50

to the French Fourth Division

36:52

following the club going into administration.

36:55

The club has a big history, champions in

36:57

France multiple times. The last

36:59

time, not so long ago,

37:01

cup winners, it's where Zidane,

37:03

Lisez -Lazou, Dugarrie took off

37:05

in the mid -90s. Apparently, Andy

37:07

Carroll earns around the French

37:09

minimum wage, which is

37:11

$1 ,600 a month. Considering

37:13

the rent and life expenses, he's

37:16

basically losing money to play here.

37:18

He's doing well in Bordeaux and

37:20

currently fighting to go up a

37:22

division, still with the uncertainty of

37:25

the economic future. What

37:27

a story around passion and love of

37:29

the game, but at what cost? He

37:31

just hit 10 goals in the league, which

37:33

gave him a bonus of 2 ,000 euros. I

37:36

don't know any further details about the

37:38

story and haven't heard much in the press

37:40

here, so I thought it'd be a

37:42

good subject for the pod. If you guys

37:44

want to come to Bordeaux for a

37:46

few days, I'll be happy to help and

37:48

help facilitate in any shape or form. Bonne

37:51

journée, Alex. Well,

37:54

I can confirm we will

37:56

be going to Bordeaux, please. Absolutely.

38:01

It's a mad one, isn't it, with

38:03

Andy Carroll? Because, yeah, I've fallen a

38:05

little bit of it and... He's doing

38:08

well with scoring goals, but he just

38:10

looks as though he's sort of living

38:12

the dream down there as well. Some

38:14

place to live. But yeah, I don't

38:16

know how he's going to get up. I

38:19

can see how he's saying that

38:21

the French minimum wage and the

38:23

expenses of rent and stuff, he's

38:25

losing money. But I think he's

38:27

living life and living a happy

38:29

life. Yeah, I know certain players

38:31

that went to certain clubs and

38:33

they enjoyed the lifestyle. And

38:36

the life so much that it was

38:38

like, let's be honest, if you moved,

38:40

for instance, to Bordeaux and your work

38:42

wasn't football, but you loved football, you'd

38:44

still play, wouldn't you? So I don't

38:46

think it's, you know, like if people

38:48

move different places and join a club

38:50

and end up paying to play football,

38:52

you know, so if he likes living

38:54

in Bordeaux and he's enjoying the football

38:56

as well, and it's a win

38:58

-win situation. And there is an amazing story

39:00

because I've seen a few clips of

39:02

him scoring goals in Bordeaux. enjoying

39:04

it. And good luck to you. Why

39:06

not? Well, we haven't seen

39:09

him getting slung out of restaurants and

39:11

bars. So maybe he's just sort of

39:13

gone the sophisticated route and he's more

39:15

cultured now as well. No, I'm pretty

39:17

sure he's doing that. It's just not

39:19

as high profile now. Without

39:24

doubt. Without doubt. But no, listen, a good

39:26

story all the same. And there's probably plenty

39:28

of listeners that don't know that he's playing

39:30

his trade in Bordeaux, but it's worth for

39:32

Google. So Go and have a look. He's

39:34

doing well. OK,

39:36

Sid. Well, it's been an

39:38

interesting turn of events on this podcast. Obviously, we're

39:40

going to go for a little season review. We

39:42

ended up with Ashley Colgate with a little dissection

39:44

of some of the young players that come in

39:46

for him. You never know which way it's

39:48

going to turn. Do you on this pod? That's

39:51

what we do on this podcast, mate. We just

39:53

go off -piece and then just come back on as

39:55

we do. Well, let me take you

39:57

off -piece to finish, if you don't mind.

39:59

And take you for an eBay 11. For

40:04

no particular reason, other the fact that we've

40:06

been sent one in. Why?

40:08

What is this about? Do

40:13

you know what? He even says,

40:15

there's no reason for this whatsoever.

40:20

But he's sent one in anyway. Okay,

40:23

so he's gone for David Byer and gone

40:25

instead of David Rayer, I imagine. Christian

40:27

fucks it's sold. Vincent

40:33

E. Comerce Company.

40:36

James Ward Browse.

40:41

Ryan Gabelberch.

40:44

Steve Bidwell. Yeah,

40:47

of course. Stuart Downing

40:49

Price. Stuart

40:51

Downing Price. Mohamed

40:55

Seller. Kevin

40:57

DeBino. We've

41:00

got Charlie Adams with my

41:02

basket, second

41:05

Andy Cole, and

41:08

Eric Ten Hagel as

41:10

the manager. Cheers,

41:12

gents. Josh, actually, no reason for that whatsoever,

41:14

but I enjoyed every moment of it. I

41:17

love I love it, Josh. Very much.

41:19

Similar to this pod sids. No reason

41:21

for it whatsoever, but very much enjoyed it. as

41:24

they all do, all our listeners. It's

41:26

been a pleasure. Really, it's been a pleasure.

41:28

In regards to your family, Sid, we'll be back

41:30

stronger very soon. I'm going to go and crack

41:32

one open. Right, you

41:34

go and live the life. I'll keep the studio

41:36

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41:38

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