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saves the world and then also

4:31

we're talking about Freedom Fest right

4:33

yes very excited about that

4:35

June 11 through the 14th at the Palm

4:37

Springs Convention Center in luxurious

4:40

Palm Springs California yeah so

4:42

what is that I haven't

4:44

been that's my first time you've done

4:46

it a few times yeah so I've MC

4:48

for the last several years and

4:50

I've been going to

4:53

Freedom Fest I think

4:55

since 2012. And I

4:57

started going with Reason

4:59

magazine and, you know,

5:01

going to their different

5:03

booths and speakers. So

5:05

they have a main

5:07

stage where I will

5:09

be interviewing you. And

5:11

then they have different

5:13

breakout rooms where people

5:15

with various ideas about

5:17

Bitcoin and sex work and

5:20

legalizing drugs and They all kind

5:22

of break out and talk about

5:24

freedom in its various forms. I

5:26

mean, it really is like a

5:29

pure extravaganza for

5:31

people who want to talk

5:33

about freedom. Some of them

5:35

are libertarians, some are conservatives,

5:37

and some are just like expat ottballs

5:39

who want to figure out how

5:41

to game the system and pay

5:43

as little taxes and make as

5:45

much money somewhere else as possible.

5:48

What's seestating? I think

5:50

that's where you have like your

5:52

own island? And maybe you're your

5:55

own country and there's a lot

5:57

of self-determination with that and the

5:59

government can't tell you what to

6:02

do if you're out at sea.

6:04

On some sort of an island

6:06

which is very attractive for people

6:09

and I have been fascinated with

6:11

the idea of people starting their

6:13

own countries. Listen if it worked

6:16

for Marlon Brando it'll work for

6:18

it'll work for you. I'm very

6:21

fascinated in freedom and our mutual

6:23

friend Dr. Drew and I speak

6:25

about this all the time which

6:28

is I look at people who

6:30

seem to not be a fan

6:32

of freedom like I look at

6:35

people who tell me they don't

6:37

really like pizza. I'm just like,

6:39

of course you like pizza. Everyone

6:42

likes pizza. Everyone wants pizza. They're

6:44

like, don't care for it. And

6:47

I'm like, I've found, you know,

6:49

much to my chagrin, probably... came

6:51

to roost during COVID and now

6:54

doge that People seem to love

6:56

the government and I'm like where

6:58

have all you Americans been hiding

7:01

for all these years like what

7:03

when did this happen? I sent

7:06

the most innocuous tweet out That

7:08

I could ever send out The

7:10

other a couple of weeks ago

7:13

just after doing a show in

7:15

Arizona And I'll paraphrase me because

7:17

it's not even worth remembering, but

7:20

I just went Basically I have

7:22

a novel idea. Why don't why

7:24

doesn't everyone take care of themselves

7:27

and their family and stop relying

7:29

so much on the government? It

7:32

got 8.8 million views and Spread

7:34

out all over the place and

7:36

started some sort of firestorm of

7:39

an argument with 3,000 10,000 comments

7:41

saying fuck you Corolla Did you

7:43

drive on a road to get

7:46

to the comedy club? Just because

7:48

you don't want to pay taxes

7:51

doesn't mean we don't want hospitals

7:53

and stuff. And it's like, I.

7:55

just said a little less government.

7:58

That's all. That's all. Why? When

8:00

did everyone go fucking nuts? So

8:02

what if government just meant like

8:05

roads, cops, firefighters and hospitals? Like

8:07

what if that was like what

8:09

we could agree on and taking

8:12

care of little old ladies? So

8:14

it's all the extra government that

8:17

you pay for that you don't

8:19

enjoy the benefit of. That's what

8:21

causes the most problem. Like, that's

8:24

why people's taxes are so high.

8:26

That's why, you know, you can

8:28

add 80,000 IRS agents, but they're

8:31

still going to go after middle-income

8:33

earners. They're not going to go

8:36

after rich people, because rich people

8:38

figure out things like seestetting. And

8:40

they'll find ways to protect their

8:43

money and not pay taxes. That's

8:45

why they're rich. So the IRS

8:47

has to get their money from

8:50

somewhere, so they're going to continue

8:52

to torture people to torture people

8:54

who are now. torting Tesla dealerships

8:57

and the name of anti-freedom and

8:59

none of it makes sense like

9:02

you could point to all the

9:04

areas in your life where there's

9:06

so much government involvement and all

9:09

of those things are such they're

9:11

really expensive and they're a massive

9:13

pain in the ass and that's

9:16

why the more government you have,

9:18

the less freedom you have, and

9:20

also the less money you have

9:22

to choose to make your own

9:25

decisions, which even if they're bad

9:27

decisions, they're still better than, you

9:29

know, the best government decisions. Yeah,

9:31

I mean, obviously, COVID really kicked

9:34

it into high gear and all

9:36

the governors. who were sort of

9:38

drunk with power and wanted control,

9:41

started shutting off, you know, closing

9:43

down beaches and outdoor dining and

9:45

stuff like that. That's what you

9:47

get in the blue states. It

9:50

was also a very telling moment

9:52

for me because when all these

9:54

assholes like Gavin Newsom and Gretchen

9:56

Whitmer snapped into action by destroying

9:59

everyone's rights. I was like, oh,

10:01

you like this. I mean, that's

10:03

what you, that's your default setting.

10:06

The second there's an opening or

10:08

an opportunity, that's where you go

10:10

to. Just destroying people's civil liberties.

10:12

But it's not really them. Like

10:15

I get what they're doing, I

10:17

don't get what the populace is

10:19

up to. I really don't. I'm,

10:21

and maybe it's because I'm old,

10:24

but I'm like. I thought the

10:26

whole ideal of America or the

10:28

idea of America was you come

10:31

here you you you obey the

10:33

laws and you get left you

10:35

pay your taxes and they leave

10:37

you alone. I thought that was

10:40

a I thought that was our

10:42

deal that we had with the

10:44

government. I didn't know it was

10:46

going to be this big oppressive

10:49

overlord shit and I don't know

10:51

who's fighting for this but there

10:53

there seems to be lots of

10:56

people who want this and I

10:58

don't I don't really understand it.

11:00

You just want to throw away,

11:02

you know, California spent $24 billion

11:05

on homelessness and we have more

11:07

homeless. So I don't know, that's

11:09

not okay for me. I don't

11:11

want that. Yeah, and also, you

11:14

know, if there are parts of

11:16

California that you haven't visited in

11:18

10 or 15 years, and you're

11:20

like... God, I remember the days

11:23

where Bakersfield was amazing, or San

11:25

Diego punk rock in the 90s

11:27

was the best time in music.

11:30

And now you talk to people

11:32

in those places and they're like,

11:34

you wouldn't recognize it. It's not

11:36

the same. It's not creative. It's

11:39

scary. It's the same thing in

11:41

Seattle and Portland. It's like, I

11:43

grew up in Portland. It was

11:45

the most vibrant, beautiful, fun, creative

11:48

city. And now you have pockets

11:50

of accidental creativity that are surrounded

11:52

by. you know, drug using mentally

11:55

ill homeless people who are encouraged

11:57

to proliferate. You know, it's like

11:59

the government is set up to

12:01

appease a group of people who

12:04

really need to be sent to

12:06

treatment. But you know, the do-gooders

12:08

are like, oh, no, we're the

12:10

good people. We're going to let

12:13

these people just sort of fester

12:15

and die in the streets because

12:17

we're so wonderful. And then cities

12:20

ultimately break down because you can't

12:22

afford the cost of that. I

12:24

mean, that's unsustainable. And then you

12:26

have the big companies who are

12:29

like... Our workers can't safely walk

12:31

to their cars at the end

12:33

of the day. We have women

12:35

who are being attacked by homeless

12:38

people. We are taking our company

12:40

and we are moving to a

12:42

freer state like Texas or Idaho.

12:45

And those states are just waiving

12:47

companies in. We have no income

12:49

tax. We believe in our cops

12:51

here. We want to have good

12:54

schools. We believe in school choice.

12:56

And it's like, I don't buy

12:58

into Alec Baldwin thing that there's

13:00

going to be a civil war.

13:03

But there is an absolute bifurcation

13:05

in this country and it doesn't

13:07

need to be this way. You

13:09

know, if there were enough rational

13:12

people, they would go, you know

13:14

what? Maybe school choice is a

13:16

really good idea for inner city

13:19

schools where kids are left to

13:21

fail because they've got teachers who

13:23

are retired on duty and teachers

13:25

unions who are so entrenched that

13:28

they will make damn sure that

13:30

the worst schools stay open. And

13:32

they spend the most per pupil

13:34

in the country. And it is

13:37

an utter failure. But we're going

13:39

to make sure that that system

13:41

stays in place because we are

13:44

the good people. And it's like,

13:46

I felt like with Trump winning,

13:48

and I say this is a

13:50

libertarian, it was enough people waking

13:53

up and saying, no, our cities,

13:55

our schools, our systems should not

13:57

operate like this. So we're going

13:59

to go ahead and take it

14:02

back. And, you know, once you

14:04

have a power shift like that,

14:06

what you're seeing is the reaction.

14:09

It's the big state governors, the

14:11

status, who are clawing back the

14:13

power, and they're being really good

14:15

at using propaganda. and fear to

14:18

do it, but what people are

14:20

forgetting, because we have such short

14:22

memory cycles now, is they're the

14:24

ones who created these situations in

14:27

the first place. Like, they're just

14:29

fighting for this horrific status quo.

14:31

They're not fighting to make life

14:34

better. They're finding to stay in

14:36

power, and that's it. Yeah, well,

14:38

we live, well, you live part-time

14:40

in one of those states. Your

14:43

house, how to do with the

14:45

fire? It is full of lead

14:47

and it's very interesting because all

14:49

the homes around us burned. It

14:52

was very similar to your situation.

14:54

And all of my best friends,

14:56

they lost everything. And when you

14:58

say, I'm sorry, but I'm just

15:01

trying to be a little clearer

15:03

here. My situation is many of

15:05

the houses around me burned, everything

15:08

in front of me burned and

15:10

every other house. or about every

15:12

third house on the hill on

15:14

that. I walked my whole neighborhood

15:17

a couple days ago and I'm

15:19

right about 50% it's like literally

15:21

coin toss whether your house burned

15:23

but we say everything around you

15:26

burned. So that's okay so the

15:28

palisades is broken up in the

15:30

little sections and our section 50%

15:33

of the homes burned but three

15:35

doors down so we're three houses

15:37

from a main street where all

15:39

the homes burned on that street

15:42

and we're 10 houses down from

15:44

another street and all the homes

15:46

burned on the street behind us

15:48

homes burned and then two blocks

15:51

down at the bluff like all

15:53

of those homes are just they're

15:55

just gone there they're nothing they

15:58

had no hope once the fire

16:00

started At the beach and you

16:02

assume I live at the beach

16:04

there's water my house is never

16:07

going to burn and went up

16:09

and consumed the trailer parks obviously

16:11

heat rises and you know with

16:13

those winds just blowing that hot

16:16

air just up further and faster,

16:18

there was no hope for people

16:20

who had even planted succulents and

16:23

you know, had systems and fire

16:25

retardant materials and all that stuff.

16:27

The thing, and I'll ask Andrew

16:29

if you can hear me, there

16:32

was a, I've been out sort

16:34

of covering it, doing a vlog,

16:36

and there was a house, I

16:38

went out with the head of

16:41

the Army Corps of Engineers, and

16:43

we went to palisades by a

16:45

grade school. I think it was

16:48

a grade school or a junior

16:50

high that just burned to the

16:52

ground, but everything was gone. And

16:54

there was this big, white, three

16:57

level, shaker-sided, colonial-looking beach house just

16:59

sitting there, just white, pristine, nothing

17:01

gone, nothing wrong with it at

17:03

all. Everything the entire school in

17:06

front of it burned down and

17:08

every neighbor gone It's just white

17:10

wooden you know, and it wasn't

17:12

you know a big cement poured

17:15

in place bunker and it was

17:17

just a wooden white very traditional

17:19

looking Large beach home with plenty

17:22

of wooden trellis and terrace and

17:24

stuff and just sat there Completely

17:26

unscathed And that's all I did

17:28

is when I walked through my

17:31

neighborhood and many, and I've toured

17:33

every, the whole place now, it's

17:35

like, I have no idea why

17:37

that place is there and everything

17:40

around it is gone and people

17:42

talk about, oh, did you plant

17:44

ice plant or did you build

17:47

out of these materials? It's completely

17:49

fate and God's fickle finger. Like,

17:51

no one has an answer as

17:53

to why that is there. We

17:56

have a palm tree growing through

17:58

the center of our house and

18:00

then we've got. a small front

18:02

yard with 18 eucalyptus trees in

18:05

front and would shake shingles. Right.

18:07

So if one ember had gotten

18:09

in our yard like the whole

18:12

thing because those eucalyptus trees I

18:14

have come to find out are

18:16

very flammable I did not know

18:18

that. And there are so many

18:21

elements of our home that should

18:23

have it should have just incinerated.

18:25

I went up to the roof

18:27

of my place. It was a

18:30

flat roof with a small parapet

18:32

around it and found a pile

18:34

of leaves that had sort of

18:37

blown into the corner of the

18:39

roof. and they were charred. So

18:41

there was a pile of leaves

18:43

on top of my home that

18:46

was on fire for a point

18:48

in time, but didn't catch on

18:50

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the game starts here. This home

19:38

for you, is this a family

19:40

home? Is this, how, does it

19:42

go back away? Yeah, so, so

19:45

we've been there for 23 years

19:47

and, you know, got it before

19:49

our daughters were born. And, you

19:51

know, this place, we brought them

19:54

both home from the hospital and,

19:56

you know, they went to preschool

19:58

in the palisades. and their preschool,

20:01

their elementary school, you know, that's

20:03

all gone. The place they used

20:05

to take ballet, like all of

20:07

it is gone, like Gelsen's and

20:10

Ralph's, it's, you know, and it's

20:12

so heartbreaking because, you know, it's

20:14

like, it was nice to have

20:16

this anchor where no matter what

20:19

happened in New York, you know,

20:21

my older daughters in college, we

20:23

could always go back to LA

20:26

and. You know it's a place

20:28

that they've always known right and

20:30

You know it's it's so hard

20:32

Being there because it looks like

20:35

a war zone Yeah, I I

20:37

like I said I walked the

20:39

backside of a hill that I

20:41

always would hike on and Was

20:44

devastated like every every other house

20:46

houses. I'd looked many houses. I'd

20:48

been in and looked at All

20:50

right Kennedy. Can you see this?

20:53

Yeah, there's big three-story pristine white

20:55

home made of wood and everything

20:57

around it is gone everything in

21:00

the corner in front of it

21:02

the school to the side of

21:04

it all the structures behind it

21:06

all gone and this thing looks

21:09

like somebody just put a fresh

21:11

coat of paint on it the

21:13

other day that's wild so I

21:15

wonder if that's new construction and

21:18

if that's like somehow fire retardant

21:20

I will say this. Well, there

21:22

is such a thing as siding,

21:25

and I'll geek out a little

21:27

here with my building background, but

21:29

there's something called hardyboard, which is

21:31

a substrate you put tile on.

21:34

Sort of like drywall for tile,

21:36

Missy. And hardy, but hardy makes

21:38

cement. just siding like siding that

21:40

looks like wood but it's really

21:43

made of cement and it could

21:45

but there were many modern homes

21:47

that were just glass and stucco

21:50

that were gone and then there

21:52

were many homes that had like

21:54

a cedar shake roof on them

21:56

that didn't get harm so you

21:59

can't really just go well did

22:01

they make it out of material

22:03

that because tons of houses that

22:05

had no combustibles were just gone

22:08

I love a feeling that the

22:10

homes that remained are people who

22:12

sign deals with the devil. Like

22:15

if he had a home in

22:17

Malibu, it's probably still there. So

22:19

you and I, so your house

22:21

made it, but is the power

22:24

back on? Is the water on?

22:26

Is the gas on? They say

22:28

the tap water is drinkable again.

22:30

I didn't have the gas turn

22:33

back on because we're going to

22:35

have to do a lot of

22:37

work on it. And the back

22:39

door blew open. and it just

22:42

filled with that granular black ash

22:44

and we had it tested and

22:46

it just the lead count is

22:49

through the roof to the point

22:51

where my brother helped me move

22:53

some stuff out about two months

22:55

ago and he still has a

22:58

cough. Really? He's an avid cigar

23:00

smoker has not been able to

23:02

smoke a cigar since and he's

23:04

been on you know antibiotics and

23:07

inhalers and steroids and he cannot

23:09

shake this cough and then... the

23:11

contractor that we're working with on

23:14

remediation called me he's like I

23:16

have lead poisoning. Oh wow. So

23:18

I've been there twice cleaning stuff

23:20

out and it's it's I wore

23:23

a mask and gloves the whole

23:25

time and I got really sick

23:27

to my stomach the first time

23:29

and so I asked my stomach

23:32

doctor is like yep that's you

23:34

know God only knows what's in

23:36

there and it can affect different

23:39

systems. Well, for us, you know,

23:41

it's like they can do with

23:43

the insurance company wants you to

23:45

do, which is put in hepafilters

23:48

and, you know, all sorts of

23:50

top-down cleaning. But when you have

23:52

like that level of lead in

23:54

there, you got to take the

23:57

drywall down and you got to

23:59

take the insulation out. And so,

24:01

you know, we're going to have

24:04

to do that. And because the

24:06

house is old, we're going to

24:08

probably redo the stucco and just

24:10

try and get as much of

24:13

that lead out as possible. Yeah,

24:15

it's a big job tearing those

24:17

walls open. What years the house?

24:19

I think it's a... late 40s.

24:22

Oh so you got plaster probably

24:24

and maybe buttonboard or maybe laugh

24:26

and plaster so that's going to

24:29

be a mess. Yeah I don't

24:31

know it's been it's been repainted

24:33

so many times and it's hard

24:35

to know what what lurks the

24:38

need. So you and I meet

24:40

all those years ago at K-rock

24:42

right? Yes you were you were

24:44

at the time training Michael the

24:47

maintenance man to fight Jimmy Kimmel,

24:49

right? No, I was training Jimmy

24:51

Kimmel. Oh, you were training Jimmy

24:53

to fight Michael the maintenance man?

24:56

Yeah. Yeah. It was funny. I

24:58

showed up just to train either

25:00

one of those guys and I

25:03

was hoping for Michael the maintenance

25:05

man because Michael the maintenance man

25:07

had been there for several years

25:09

and Jimmy had only been there

25:12

for several weeks or months. So

25:14

I figured Michael the maintenance man

25:16

could help me more than Jimmy

25:18

since he was there longer and

25:21

when you're when there's two guys

25:23

to fight. and you got a

25:25

choice between a fit brother and

25:28

an unfit white guy you would

25:30

tend to say give me the

25:32

fit brother versus the unfit white

25:34

guy but I ended up getting

25:37

Jimmy and uh and it turned

25:39

out good because Michael maintenance man

25:41

didn't have the kind of juice

25:43

I thought he had around there

25:46

anyway and Jimmy turned out to

25:48

be Jimmy so it ended up

25:50

working out okay but I'm trying

25:53

to kind of get the timeline

25:55

down I showed up in about

25:57

April or May of 94 and

25:59

you showed up. up when or

26:02

how or what was your whole

26:04

back story with Kevin and Bean

26:06

and Kayrock? So I first talked

26:08

to Kevin and Bean as a

26:11

listener when I was 18. It

26:13

was January of 91 and I

26:15

had just moved to Southern California.

26:18

But after high school I had

26:20

graduated from high school summer 90

26:22

and the first person Gulf War

26:24

was in full effect and I

26:27

called Kevin and being because I

26:29

listened to Kevin and Bean all

26:31

the time and they put me

26:33

on the air and I was

26:36

like I want Wolf Blitzer to

26:38

do me raw and Beep thought

26:40

it was really funny and Kevin

26:42

was super grossed out and then

26:45

the next month I applied for

26:47

an internship and I got hired

26:49

as an intern and I went

26:52

into their studio and I was

26:54

like. I'm a girl who wants

26:56

Wolf Blitzer to do a raw.

26:58

And Bean was like so amused

27:01

and Kevin was so creeped out

27:03

he wanted a restraining order. He

27:05

thought that a stocker had been

27:07

hired and given access to the

27:10

building and then I used to

27:12

go into Andy Shone's office all

27:14

the time and to say, hey

27:17

man, you should put me on

27:19

the air. I have zero experience

27:21

and no one knows who I

27:23

am. So wouldn't that be great?

27:26

And so finally that December. Andy

27:28

was like, yeah, you know what,

27:30

I'll give you a shot. I'll

27:32

let you do a two-night audition

27:35

on the overnight, and if you're

27:37

any good, I'll hire you to

27:39

be a part-time overnight DJ. Was

27:42

Andy the program director then? Yes.

27:44

Andy was a program director. I

27:46

didn't have an SEC license, so

27:48

Lewis Largent stayed up both nights

27:51

and ran my board for me,

27:53

and then... and Andy listened to

27:55

the tape and he was like

27:57

it's really raw you definitely need

28:00

some polish but I see something

28:02

there so I'm gonna give you

28:04

a shot and then he put

28:07

me on the air a few

28:09

nights and then I would we

28:11

say nights what time are we

28:13

talking about one to five 30

28:16

in the morning yeah that's not

28:18

really nights for me I'm 19

28:20

years old I was up to

28:22

four in the morning anyway. One

28:25

a.m. to five a.m. was the

28:27

shift. Okay because I was doing

28:29

I was saying well wait a

28:31

minute they had love line ended

28:34

at midnight so it had to

28:36

be later than midnight when they

28:38

had good guests I would sneak

28:41

into love line and try me

28:43

people at midnight before they left.

28:45

So that's like the Beastie Boys

28:47

and Henry Rollins and Red Hot

28:50

Chili Peppers like before I got

28:52

to MTV. And then Andy sent

28:54

me a memo and was like,

28:56

you're not supposed to be in

28:59

the building when it's not your

29:01

shift. I'm going to have to

29:03

fire you if you don't apply,

29:06

you know, follow protocol. Was that

29:08

K-rock in Burbank? Yes. That was

29:10

the one in the adults building.

29:12

Yeah, adults is the restaurant downstairs.

29:15

Yeah, that's the building I started

29:17

off in and then and then

29:19

we moved. I never did love

29:21

line there. I moved to Westwood

29:24

one. Yeah, so you show up

29:26

in 90 or 91. Sorry. 91.

29:28

91. The reason I'm getting into

29:31

this is I kind of tell

29:33

people all the time. but especially

29:35

with radio but really with life

29:37

you just show up and you're

29:40

persistent and you keep thing and

29:42

eventually everyone's story's the same showed

29:44

up didn't piss anyone off made

29:46

people want to be around me

29:49

prepared did a good job and

29:51

that just sort of led to

29:53

the next thing hang on one

29:56

second my dog is whining and

29:58

he's old and annoying and he's

30:00

an old and says okay there

30:02

you know I'll load up my

30:05

next question for you. So you

30:07

show, so you're there, you're doing

30:09

one AM to five AM. Is

30:11

that your shift? Yes. So that

30:14

was my air shift and then

30:16

Kevin and Bean fired Mark the

30:18

Whiffle Boy who was there in

30:20

studio producer and I was like,

30:23

hey man, I'm. just as good

30:25

as Mark the Whiffle Boy, so

30:27

Kevin and Bean had me stay

30:30

on as they were in studio

30:32

producer, which was a paid intern.

30:34

So I would go to Del

30:36

Taco, I would get them donuts,

30:39

and I would, you know, if

30:41

Kevin was in a good mood,

30:43

he would give me his car

30:45

keys, and then one day I'm

30:48

in a hurry to, you know,

30:50

pull their carts, get their Del

30:52

Taco, and come back and do

30:55

the whole thing again for the

30:57

next hour, and so I back

30:59

out of the... garage too quickly

31:01

and I nailed the front end

31:04

of Kevin's car on one of

31:06

those cement beams in the structure

31:08

and I'd go back upstairs and

31:10

I was like I'm so sorry

31:13

I crashed your car and Kevin

31:15

didn't believe me so they had

31:17

to go downstairs and bring up

31:20

his headlight and give it to

31:22

you. So you're there is Frank

31:24

Murphy the producer? Yes, so it

31:26

was Frank Murphy, Maria Lapidus was

31:29

their producer for a while. And

31:31

then she introduced me to Howard.

31:33

Before I got hired, I was

31:35

trying to find a job in

31:38

the industry because my unpaid internship

31:40

was coming to an end. And

31:42

she said, well, my husband Howard

31:45

needs an assistant. He and his

31:47

partner, Rick, needs someone to answer

31:49

phone. So I went and met

31:51

with Howard and Rick and I'm

31:54

like, I'm doing so good in

31:56

this interview and they asked me

31:58

how much I wanted per year

32:00

and I was like, I'm going

32:03

to highball them. I'm going to

32:05

tell them I went 25,000 a

32:07

year. And Howard said, my dear,

32:10

do me a favor. Go back

32:12

to K-rock and tell Andy Shone

32:14

that Howard the Petis said that

32:16

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you and I first meet? We

36:12

first met in 94. I was

36:15

already at MTV. So I got

36:17

hired at MTV in the fall

36:19

of 92. And so you start

36:22

at K-rock is sort of an

36:24

intern in 91 and you're on

36:26

air at MTV in 92? Yeah,

36:28

September of 92. So I got

36:31

hired into interns February of 91.

36:33

K-rock in September of September of

36:35

92. I was an MTV DJ.

36:37

Wow. Wow. I don't know, is

36:40

that possible today or is it

36:42

just different today? I don't know,

36:44

like people ask me like, you

36:47

know, how do I become a

36:49

news reporter? How, you know, how

36:51

do I get to be anything

36:53

on air? And I'm like, I

36:56

had such a strange path. Like,

36:58

if I hadn't met Andy shown,

37:00

I wouldn't have gotten either one

37:02

of those jobs. Yeah, well I

37:05

mean I was this I was

37:07

a boxing coach in you know

37:09

in 94 and 96 was hosting

37:12

a huge syndicated radio show and

37:14

then on MTV every night for

37:16

an hour in 97 I guess

37:18

I don't know when I start

37:21

so I was a boxing coach

37:23

I wasn't even an intern so

37:25

I know stuff used to happen

37:27

fast I guess so so you're

37:30

on MTV In 92 and Andy

37:32

Shone leaves K-rock and goes on

37:34

to do all the MTV stuff.

37:37

And then where do you and

37:39

I cross-pass? We cross paths definitely

37:41

through Kevin and Bean, but then

37:43

you and Drew started doing love

37:46

line. And that's how you and

37:48

I started boxing was through love

37:50

line. Oh, right. That's right. Yeah.

37:52

I'd hold the mitz for you.

37:55

Yep. Yeah. I used to go

37:57

to Times Square gym when Times

37:59

Square. was just a pisshole. I

38:01

used to go there with three

38:04

other women from MTV and

38:06

we found this guy Willie who

38:08

taught us out of box and so

38:10

and we we you know followed the

38:12

round bell it was like three

38:15

minutes on one minute off and

38:17

we would do shadow boxing jump

38:19

rope sit-ups. you know he would

38:22

use the mitts and then eventually

38:24

after three months he let us

38:26

spar three rounds at a time

38:28

with each other and Amanda Demi

38:31

broke my nose really yes yeah

38:33

you know what people don't realize

38:35

boxing gyms that are kind of

38:38

older school they're on the clock

38:40

they just have a bell or

38:42

an alarm that goes off every three

38:44

minutes and then you get a minute

38:46

to rest and then it goes back

38:48

on again And it's a nice way

38:51

to kind of conduct your workout because

38:53

sometimes when you go to the gym, just

38:55

a regular gym, yet there's a fair

38:57

bit of meandering going on like a

38:59

lots of looking at your phone and

39:02

kind of sometimes you'll stop under the

39:04

TV set and start looking at a

39:06

story or reading the scroll or something.

39:08

But this is like when the bell

39:10

goes, you're on. You're skipping rope, your

39:12

shadow box, you're hitting the folks

39:14

pads, heavy bag, speed bag, what

39:16

have you, double ended back. And

39:18

then the bell rings again and

39:20

you got a minute. And you can

39:22

just hydrate. So I look forward to

39:24

that minute. Like I truly isn't oasis

39:27

because this gym was so small and

39:29

dingy and hot and it was all

39:31

dudes and they were not interested in

39:33

us. Like this was not a place

39:35

like we were not. scope and dudes

39:37

out. We were we were there to

39:39

really learn how to box and they

39:41

did not care about us at all.

39:44

It was like, you know, super ripped

39:46

Puerto Rican teenagers and Mark Gastono

39:48

and Mark Gaston. Yes, the

39:50

famous jet. He was trying to be

39:52

a professional fighter at that time.

39:54

That's right. He was working out

39:56

at Times Square boxing. Yeah, people

39:59

forget Mark you know, was early

40:01

money in the sort of celebrity

40:03

boxing world. He was the guy.

40:05

Lyle Al Zato actually probably did

40:08

it before him if I want

40:10

to date myself. So you and

40:12

I met when you would do,

40:14

well, wait a minute, if we

40:17

met 94, I wasn't doing love

40:19

line yet. No, we, in 95.

40:21

That's when we were, like I

40:23

had met you a few times

40:26

in a 95 is when we

40:28

were boxing pretty regularly. Mm-hmm. And

40:30

then how did Fox come about

40:32

for you? And I don't want

40:35

to get cathartic here, but... Maybe

40:37

you're like me. I don't feel

40:39

like I've changed any of my

40:41

basic thoughts about life or politics

40:43

or humanity or how to be

40:46

covered I feel like the world

40:48

around me changed and I then

40:50

got called conservative But I've never

40:52

thought of myself as conservative. I

40:55

mean, I've never owned a gun

40:57

and I'm not religious and so

40:59

and I drive an electric car.

41:01

I don't really and I'm in

41:04

the arts kind of thing like

41:06

I don't really I come from

41:08

LA, you know, I don't really

41:10

have the conservative I just sort

41:13

of know what works and know

41:15

what doesn't work and now being

41:17

labeled this person, but I don't

41:19

think I'm that person at all.

41:22

I say the same things I've

41:24

always said and the world around

41:26

me changed and I just didn't

41:28

go back and adopt. all these

41:31

new thoughts because they don't work

41:33

and my thoughts do work. I'm

41:35

just a nutritionist who said diet

41:37

and exercise and everyone wants to

41:40

talk to me about cleanses and

41:42

you know being being lactate and

41:44

lactose and stuff like that and

41:46

I'm just like diet and exercise

41:48

just diet and now I'm getting

41:51

labeled something but I'm really not

41:53

I've said the same thing my

41:55

whole life but I feel you're

41:57

kind of that way too, but

42:00

I don't know what your background

42:02

is. Yeah, so I started out

42:04

as a Republican. I was a

42:06

Republican in high school, and even

42:09

when I was at K-rock, Kevin

42:11

Bean sent me to interview Dan

42:13

Quayle in 1992 when, you know,

42:15

they were running for re-election, and

42:18

he went and held a press

42:20

conference in Little Saigon and sent

42:22

me and Brian Suits with a

42:24

dat recorder. at the time I

42:27

had purple hair and purple lipstick

42:29

and I was wearing a purple

42:31

dress and his press secretary yells

42:33

out okay last question for the

42:36

vice president and so I scream

42:38

mr vice president and he points

42:40

me he's like you and I

42:42

didn't have a question so I

42:45

was like how do I look

42:47

in purple and he was like

42:49

you you look great in purple

42:51

I was like thanks Dan Quayle

42:53

so you were always a Republican

42:56

yes and then Then

42:58

Pendulette and Kurt Loder told me

43:00

that I was a libertarian and

43:02

I didn't know what that meant.

43:04

And it wasn't really until I

43:07

left MTV and started doing talk

43:09

radio that I really started kind

43:11

of exploring libertarianism. And then when

43:13

I got to college and studied

43:15

a little bit more political philosophy

43:17

and started reading that kind of

43:20

stuff, I was like, oh, yeah,

43:22

I am a libertarian. absolutely a

43:24

philosophical libertarian. I am not affiliated.

43:26

I'm an unaffiliated voter in LA

43:28

County and I'm not a big

43:30

party person. I feel like both

43:33

major parties just want money and

43:35

power no matter what they say.

43:37

And I think that Trump is

43:39

doing things slightly differently and there's

43:41

part of it that I really

43:43

really appreciate that. I think there's

43:46

a part of him that's really

43:48

like leaning into and trying to

43:50

appeal to libertarians. And, you know,

43:52

there's another part where congressional Republicans,

43:54

bless their hearts, they're still going

43:56

to blow it somehow. So. If

43:59

people are listening, trying to figure

44:01

out whether they may be a

44:03

closet libertarian, like Penn Gillette, Kurt

44:05

Loder found out, or applied to

44:07

you, I sort of, I basically

44:09

think myself is a libertarian, but

44:12

I've never really thought what are

44:14

the key components to it, like

44:16

what makes you a libertarian? five

44:18

basic thoughts on you know this

44:20

you know what what what's your

44:22

thought on the border what's your

44:25

thought on the on taxes you

44:27

know I things of that nature

44:29

so what would make one a

44:31

libertarian well I mean you start

44:33

by wanting the government to be

44:35

less intrusive and it usually starts

44:38

with something personal like you know,

44:40

the government forces you to do

44:42

something with a piece of private

44:44

property that you think you own

44:46

and you have a right to

44:48

determine what you do with your

44:51

land. Or, you know, it's something

44:53

like a school board shoving a

44:55

certain philosophy down your throat and

44:57

as a parent having a recourse

44:59

and then kind of being dubbed

45:01

the enemy. And that happened with

45:04

the FBI. And they told their

45:06

agents, you know, why don't you

45:08

sort of keep track of some

45:10

of these school board meetings and

45:12

listen to parents who get a

45:14

little too riled up at these

45:17

meetings because we may have to

45:19

surveil them. You know, it's like

45:21

people whose businesses were shut down

45:23

during COVID and any time the

45:25

government has done something aggressively oppressive

45:27

that... For you, there is no

45:30

recourse. The instinct to want justice

45:32

and want your own autonomy back,

45:34

that's a very libertarian, and I

45:36

mean that is a philosophical libertarian.

45:38

It doesn't mean you're a member

45:40

of the Libertarian Party. It just

45:43

means you want to be the

45:45

determiner of your own choices and

45:47

your own freedom and liberty. And

45:49

that's at Freedom Fest is all

45:51

about. Like finding people because for

45:53

everyone, there's a limit. to freedom.

45:56

Like, I do own a gun.

45:58

I am a religious person. I

46:00

don't think that everyone needs to

46:02

be religious. I don't think that

46:04

everyone needs to own a gun,

46:06

but the government makes it really,

46:09

really hard to buy a gun

46:11

in the state of New York,

46:13

and they make it just as

46:15

difficult to buy ammo. Like, if

46:17

you buy a box of cartridges,

46:19

like I got a Kel Tech

46:22

KSK 410 for Christmas, and it's

46:24

really hard every time. I go

46:26

to the sporting goods store to

46:28

buy a box of ammo, you

46:30

know, I have to submit myself

46:32

to a background check. And, you

46:35

know, same with sex workers. I

46:37

don't think that people who are

46:39

engaging in consensual activities necessarily need

46:41

to be prosecuted or rescued from

46:43

their own choices by government, but

46:45

there are a lot of... conservatives

46:48

who think that prostitution is wrong,

46:50

the prostitution and sex work are

46:52

the scourge of society. And, you

46:54

know, again, I go back to

46:56

my original point is people should

46:58

be able to make their own

47:01

bad choices as long as those

47:03

choices don't negatively affect other people.

47:05

Yeah, I agree. I've always thought

47:07

that consensual crimes were always fine

47:09

with me. I used to argue

47:11

about this all the time. I

47:14

would always say, if they caught

47:16

you, this is 25, 30 years

47:18

ago, but I always would scream,

47:20

look, if they catch you with

47:22

a joint, you know, you get

47:24

a slap on the hand, but

47:27

if they catch you with a

47:29

shoebox full of pot, then they

47:31

bust you and they'll put you

47:33

in jail because they will call

47:35

it intent to distribute. And I'm

47:37

like, shouldn't you have to catch

47:40

the guy trying to sell it?

47:42

much other than just going to

47:44

the guy's apartment and finding it

47:46

in his drawer. I'm like, how

47:48

do you know he's going to

47:50

distribute? Maybe he gets his pot

47:53

at Costco. Maybe he likes to

47:55

just stock up on pot. You

47:57

know what I mean? People press

47:59

the government, you think they're going

48:01

to take stuff from you. That's

48:03

when people stockpile. I would say

48:06

all the time too, I own

48:08

a house. Why can't I grow

48:10

pot plan on my fucking yard?

48:12

Like I don't get it. If

48:14

I want to smoke pot. And

48:16

I own a home and I

48:19

pay taxes, like, shouldn't I be

48:21

able to grow pot plant? And

48:23

then if you catch me driving

48:25

while I'm high, then you can

48:27

write me a ticket or do

48:29

whatever. And if you catch me

48:32

trying to harvest it and sell

48:34

it on the school yard, then

48:36

you can do it. But I

48:38

should be able to grow a

48:40

pot plant in my own yard

48:42

if I want to smoke my

48:45

own pot. Absolutely. My grandmother grew

48:47

up on a hemp farm in

48:49

Romania. I knew that if she

48:51

wanted to she could have grown

48:53

in Oregon the best. Oh yeah.

48:55

But she had such an aversion

48:58

she was like we never grow

49:00

the female plant never. Oh really?

49:02

One mima but she was such

49:04

a green thumb like she could

49:06

have grown the best strain of

49:08

weed. That by the way him

49:11

farm in Romania sounds like a

49:13

threat your agent would yell at

49:15

you when you said you were

49:17

going to. take some job they

49:19

didn't want you to take and

49:21

they'd yell as you're walking out

49:24

of their office. You're going to

49:26

end up working on a hemp

49:28

farm in Romania and then you

49:30

slam the door. Yeah, I don't,

49:32

so I'm with you on all

49:34

this stuff like the stuff that

49:37

pisses me off the most in

49:39

government, but doesn't seem to bother

49:41

many of my Los Angelesano friends

49:43

is like when the guy who

49:45

worked at the Simpsons builds the

49:47

beautiful Treehouse in his front yard

49:50

that all the kids enjoy that

49:52

I actually saw with my own

49:54

eyes through pure happenstance a week

49:56

before they tore down I just

49:58

was driving down this random And

50:00

I was like, whoa, look at

50:03

that, it's a beautiful tree house.

50:05

And then I turned to the

50:07

person in the car with me

50:09

and I go, I can't believe

50:11

the government's letting them keep it.

50:13

And the next week it was

50:16

torn down. It drives me, I'll

50:18

tell you what drives me nuts.

50:20

The government tearing it down bothers

50:22

me, but what drives me insane

50:24

is the public just sort of.

50:26

turning a blind eye to this

50:29

and to keep walking is what

50:31

they did during COVID. I'm like,

50:33

why aren't you outraged that your

50:35

government is doing this? There was

50:37

like, I don't know, I don't

50:39

get into trouble. Oh, actually, most

50:42

people here are like, well, I

50:44

voted for these people, so I'm

50:46

not going to say anything. Because

50:48

that would make me a fucking

50:50

asshole, because I voted for these

50:52

people, but that's what. I really

50:55

hope that. I don't know. I'm

50:57

hoping that they do. I'm hoping

50:59

that losing everything is so personal

51:01

to enough people that they're like,

51:03

enough of this. This is unacceptable.

51:05

We cannot live this way. It

51:08

would be nice, but it's like

51:10

re-setting a bone that you have

51:12

to re-break. It's really hard because

51:14

I come from these people. And

51:16

they don't... they don't really take

51:18

a look in the mirror and

51:21

and also their their their compass

51:23

is sort of spinning you know

51:25

they don't really think straight I

51:27

mean let's be honest I think

51:29

a lot of them are dumb

51:32

and a lot of them are

51:34

just sort of set in their

51:36

ways as they'd say and when

51:38

you hear them you're like You

51:40

realize they're in such a vacuum

51:42

of information and you know you

51:45

hear him like they're talking about

51:47

Elon Mosk or dose you know

51:49

and you're like this guy wants

51:51

to take elderly people throw them

51:53

out in the street and then

51:55

take special needs kids and claw

51:58

away all of their food so

52:00

his Rich buddies can buy another

52:02

yacht? Well, I'm not gonna stand

52:04

for it. It's like, okay, I

52:06

don't know who told you any

52:08

of that stuff. I don't know

52:11

why you glean that. I don't

52:13

know why you think that's happening.

52:15

I'm not even sure why you

52:17

think he would want to do

52:19

that or that he had the

52:21

power to do that. But where

52:24

are you getting your information? And

52:26

yes, if I thought that's what

52:28

was happening, then I would be

52:30

very much against him in that

52:32

as well. except for it's not

52:34

happening and it never does and

52:37

all you guys do is get

52:39

burned with the stuff you either

52:41

say didn't happen or you say

52:43

is happening but it never happens

52:45

and then the other stuff you

52:47

said didn't happen does happen like

52:50

Hunter Biden's laptop and everything COVID

52:52

and at some point could you

52:54

just pull over and look in

52:56

the mirror and realize you're being

52:58

fucking duped and you need to

53:00

start thinking clearly or are we

53:03

just gonna launch into the next

53:05

hysteria? that you're going to be

53:07

wrong about? I don't, I don't

53:09

have the energy for the next

53:11

hysteria. I just, I don't. Like,

53:13

I'm so exhausted by all of

53:16

this and I hate Karen Bass

53:18

with a blinding passion and I

53:20

hope she's recalled. I hope Kamel

53:22

Harris doesn't run for governor. She

53:24

doesn't deserve a second place trophy,

53:26

which is what the California governorship

53:29

would be for her. She doesn't

53:31

care enough about it. She's not.

53:33

emotionally sober enough to do the

53:35

serious job that is required of

53:37

the next governor of California and

53:39

it just I'm just so sick

53:42

of these people and you know

53:44

it's like the sky has fallen

53:46

and that's because you know they

53:48

took down the supports and they

53:50

let everything fall and then they

53:52

act surprised when there's cloud parts

53:55

and bird shit on their shoes.

53:57

a friend of mine about this

53:59

the other day and I was

54:01

really trying to distill it down

54:03

which is Karen Bass is a

54:05

procedure person, but she's not really,

54:08

she doesn't do anything, but she

54:10

likes to break off and have

54:12

groups and, you know, create exploratory

54:14

committees and have dialogues and seats

54:16

at the table and all that

54:18

kind of stuff, but she really

54:21

doesn't know how to do anything.

54:23

And then I said to the

54:25

person, but why should she know

54:27

how to do anything? She hasn't

54:29

done anything. She's just been kind

54:31

of part of the system where

54:34

they sit and they talk about

54:36

stuff, but they never do anything.

54:38

You know, Rick Caruso is a

54:40

commercial developer, so he's done a

54:42

lot of stuff. But I sort

54:44

of said to the person I

54:47

was talking to you, I go...

54:49

My mom has never done anything

54:51

either. God bless her. And if

54:53

you took her and you just

54:55

made her mayor, she wouldn't know

54:57

what the fuck to do either

55:00

because she's never done anything like

55:02

Karen Bass might not might not

55:04

do a worse job. Well, no

55:06

one could do a worse job,

55:08

but She's just never done anything.

55:10

So how why do we expect

55:13

her to do something? And then

55:15

it's all our fault for all

55:17

these horrible DEI hires where we

55:19

get so excited about the first

55:21

black woman, the first person of

55:23

color, the first lesbian, whatever to

55:26

run and we stop caring about

55:28

their qualifications and we pat ourselves

55:30

on the back because we vote

55:32

in people that were the first,

55:34

whatever the, whatever the quotes are,

55:36

the first. And then we're sort

55:39

of surprised when they're not really

55:41

up to it. I don't even

55:43

know why we're surprised. Why are

55:45

we surprised when they're not really

55:47

up to the job? They shouldn't

55:49

have been voted in to do

55:52

that job in the first place.

55:54

No, but that's, you know, hopefully

55:56

that's what lends itself to this

55:58

reset. You just have to get

56:00

enough people who can stop virtue

56:02

signaling for at least one election

56:05

cycle to... really vote for someone

56:07

who is not going to make

56:09

something as continually horrible as it

56:11

has been in California and it

56:13

just and it's not just California,

56:15

it's here in New York too.

56:18

Our governor here is horrible. Kathy

56:20

Hocal is, she's an idiot. You

56:22

know, Gretchen Whitmer is horrible. And

56:24

they're like, she should run for

56:26

president. Well, that's the thing, the

56:28

thing about a lot of what

56:31

I've said to Dr. Drew a

56:33

lot is, they have people on

56:35

their side, we have people on

56:37

your side, everyone's got someone on

56:39

their side, everyone's got someone on

56:41

their side. and you go okay

56:44

and then you go all right

56:46

well you don't you don't like

56:48

Kathy Hokel or Gretchen Whitmer or

56:50

whomever Maxine Waters okay and then

56:52

okay but they don't like Jim

56:54

Jordan and they don't like Ram

56:57

Paul but those guys are retarded

56:59

they're not fucking idiots that's like

57:01

my whole thing it's like I

57:03

don't know that I agree with

57:05

everything Jim Jordan says or Ram

57:07

Paul says but they're not idiots.

57:10

Maxine Waters is a fucking idiot.

57:12

And Kamal Harris is an idiot.

57:14

And Gretchen Whitmer is an idiot.

57:16

And Kevin Hochle is an idiot.

57:18

And that scares me. If they

57:20

were bright, I'd go, well, we

57:23

have disagreements about policy, but they're

57:25

bright people who might be able

57:27

to figure it out. But they

57:29

don't come across as bright at

57:31

all. We're doomed. And people will

57:33

just continue migrating to states where

57:36

there is more freedom, where they

57:38

have better choices, where they feel

57:40

safer. And that's what it all

57:42

boils down to. It's not hard

57:44

to provide the basics. But they're

57:46

doing everything but the basics. And

57:49

you don't see any benefit of

57:51

that at all whatsoever. So. Yeah.

57:53

And it's also like you don't

57:55

have to demonize someone for the

57:57

way they vote. Just try and

57:59

talk some sense into the... so

58:02

they vote differently because it will

58:04

be a much more like your

58:06

property values will go up if

58:08

your communities are safer and have

58:10

less feces on the sidewalks. Yeah

58:12

I I get it and you

58:15

were talking about bifurcating the other

58:17

day and or the other hour

58:19

and I was thinking about Dr.

58:21

Drew who always says to me

58:23

where's just going where's it going

58:25

because he thinks I'm a gypsy

58:28

lady in a sousayer. That's

58:30

a compliment. No it is because

58:32

Dr. Drew has been with me

58:34

for 30 years now and he's

58:37

caught on to the fact that

58:39

I predict things long before they

58:41

happen and then at some point

58:43

they happen and then some point

58:45

Bill Maher says exactly what I

58:48

said and then he gets all

58:50

the credit for it. But I'm

58:52

not bitter. I've said, he says,

58:54

where's it going? Where are we

58:56

going? Where are we going? Where's

58:58

it going? I say, safe spaces

59:01

and octagons. It goes, so what

59:03

do you mean? I go, well,

59:05

for every Pria sold, there's a

59:07

Jeep sold. Because somebody's saying, I

59:09

don't want to be forced into

59:11

that little electric thing. I want

59:14

a Jeep, and I'm going to

59:16

put mud tires on it, and

59:18

it's already started. People just leave,

59:20

people leave California and go, I

59:22

can't take it anymore, and they

59:25

go to places that are more

59:27

in line with what they think.

59:29

And then at some point, the

59:31

safe spaces are going to crumble

59:33

because they will not be able

59:35

to, they'll collapse under their own

59:38

weight. There's no, if you take

59:40

all the successful people and have

59:42

them leave California, they're not going

59:44

to be able to keep the

59:46

lights on. and it'll collapse on

59:48

its own weight and it'll be

59:51

overrun with illegals and homeless and

59:53

crime and garbage and everything else

59:55

and then at some point California's

59:57

gonna have to say to Texas

59:59

and Florida we need help. Like

1:00:02

you gotta do something for us

1:00:04

because that's the... this is going

1:00:06

to work. The smart people who

1:00:08

pay taxes, who create jobs, who

1:00:10

keep the lights on, are just

1:00:12

going to, and the corporations, obviously,

1:00:15

are just going to trickle out,

1:00:17

and at some point we're going

1:00:19

to have a huge deficit, which

1:00:21

we have now, and that's it.

1:00:23

We're going to be done. And

1:00:25

then the safe spaces are going

1:00:28

to look to the octagons for

1:00:30

literally protection. I'm going to tell

1:00:32

Bill Mark exactly what you said

1:00:34

and I can't wait to see

1:00:36

it on real time in two

1:00:39

years. Yeah, probably four or five

1:00:41

years, but yeah, he'll get around

1:00:43

to saying that he, it's so

1:00:45

funny to him, it's so funny

1:00:47

to have him screaming about building

1:00:49

permits and regulation, which is where

1:00:52

I come from billing permits. I

1:00:54

was the only one and I'm

1:00:56

not the only one, but I

1:00:58

didn't know anyone else in Hollywood.

1:01:00

debt was pulling permits all the

1:01:03

time or had a history of

1:01:05

going down and dealing with building

1:01:07

and safety and stuff and I

1:01:09

would scream to everybody this is

1:01:11

nuts what they're making us do

1:01:13

but no one else had that

1:01:16

background so they didn't feel my

1:01:18

my pain so yeah to deal

1:01:20

with California Coastal Commission I maybe

1:01:22

I'm a libertarian because this stuff

1:01:24

is just I've been screaming really

1:01:26

it's your property it's your property

1:01:29

it's your property it's your property

1:01:31

Why are they why do they

1:01:33

get to dictate what you're doing

1:01:35

on your property now? You don't

1:01:37

get to start a meth lab

1:01:40

on your? Property, but you should

1:01:42

be able to have a pot

1:01:44

plant and you should be able

1:01:46

to install solar Without being destroyed

1:01:48

by the government. Yes, and again

1:01:50

buy something and try to do

1:01:53

something I mean, I don't know

1:01:55

what they're going to do with

1:01:57

you and your permitting process and

1:01:59

you probably don't really need a

1:02:01

permit. I mean, everything needs a

1:02:03

permit, but you could probably demo

1:02:06

out. place, strip all the button

1:02:08

board and plaster or laugh and

1:02:10

plaster, drywall, whatever you got, strip

1:02:12

away all that baton insulation you

1:02:14

have in your two by four

1:02:17

walls. And you know, you know

1:02:19

what you got to do, put

1:02:21

expanding foam back in those bays.

1:02:23

Don't, don't do the rolled fiberglass

1:02:25

stuff. Do the expanding stuff. I

1:02:27

watch a lot of this old

1:02:30

house. Uh-huh. And I love the

1:02:32

expanding foam. Do the expanding foam?

1:02:34

And then when you drywall it

1:02:36

back up, you might want to

1:02:38

think about like in the bedroom

1:02:40

and stuff, go with Quiet Rock.

1:02:43

They have a kind of a,

1:02:45

I don't know, it sounds like

1:02:47

a serious XM station, doesn't it?

1:02:49

Now back to our Steely Dan

1:02:51

fest on Quiet Rock. Vina

1:02:54

Black wouldn't take you into

1:02:56

the 9 o'clock hour here

1:02:58

on Quiet Rock. She and

1:03:00

Ovenelli in studio, 10 o'clock

1:03:02

hour. Quiet Rock. From 1981.

1:03:04

Shino, I just wanna stop.

1:03:06

Yeah, Quiet Rock is drywall

1:03:08

that's quiet. So when the

1:03:10

neighbor shows up, you know,

1:03:12

the gardener with the leaf

1:03:15

blower at 7.30 in the

1:03:17

morning, it deadens it a

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a big difference. Adam, I'll

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1:03:31

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1:03:33

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1:03:37

Tell me off there. I'm

1:03:39

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1:03:41

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1:03:43

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1:03:52

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1:06:12

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Terry Polos joined us, relative controls,

1:10:41

the name of her movie. It's

1:10:43

going to be out on digital

1:10:45

platforms and that'll be April 11th.

1:10:48

Terry've seen in everything over the

1:10:50

years, but I don't know if

1:10:52

I've ever interviewed you before. Have

1:10:55

we... Have our paths crossed? I

1:10:57

don't think so. I'm not sure.

1:10:59

It's kind of a crime. I'm

1:11:02

not sure why. Maybe I wasn't

1:11:04

big enough for you. I think

1:11:06

you're probably too big for me.

1:11:09

That's the way I would. I

1:11:11

would look at it. I would

1:11:13

look at it the other way.

1:11:16

But I'm glad to make your

1:11:18

acquaintance and talk to you after

1:11:20

seeing you on the big screen

1:11:23

for so many years. Do you

1:11:25

live out in LA? No, I

1:11:27

got out of there in the

1:11:29

middle of COVID. 2020. moved back

1:11:32

east. My partner was a Marine

1:11:34

at the time and his his

1:11:36

last assignment was at Quantico. So

1:11:39

2020 I knew things in the

1:11:41

business were not going to be

1:11:43

the same. it's not. You know,

1:11:46

you don't walk into the room

1:11:48

and shake hands with people and

1:11:50

interact that way anymore, which is

1:11:53

a damn shame because I love

1:11:55

that. But now everything is zoom

1:11:57

or self-tape and that sort of

1:12:00

thing. So I figured I'm from

1:12:02

the East Coast, I miss the

1:12:04

East Coast, terribly. So it's been

1:12:07

really nice to be back here.

1:12:09

Your partners in the Marines? Well

1:12:11

he was. He actually, he retired

1:12:14

two years ago. It seems unlikely

1:12:16

that the Hollywood Starlet ends up

1:12:18

with a marine, I am happy

1:12:21

for it by the way, and

1:12:23

it's probably good for recruitment as

1:12:25

well, but it's just unlikely, it's

1:12:28

just unlikely. Was your father marine?

1:12:30

Was there some backstory to it

1:12:32

that we need to know? Yeah,

1:12:35

it's a pretty good backstory, but

1:12:37

I don't date actors. I just,

1:12:39

I think we're a bunch of...

1:12:42

self-absorbed, arrogant, insecure people. There you

1:12:44

go. But we met on a

1:12:46

dating app. We met on match.com.

1:12:49

Wow. Yeah, a little over eight

1:12:51

years ago. And I was I

1:12:53

was perpetually single for quite a

1:12:55

long time and an actor that

1:12:58

I was working with at the

1:13:00

time. She and I in a

1:13:02

drunken, you know, drunken father decided,

1:13:05

well, let's sign up for match.com.

1:13:07

And we did. We created profiles

1:13:09

over a bottle of wine. And

1:13:12

I did that for, I don't

1:13:14

know, maybe a year or something

1:13:16

pathetic like that. And I went

1:13:19

out with a couple different people.

1:13:21

And it was fine. But it

1:13:23

just wasn't, it just wasn't my

1:13:26

thing, you know, fast forward. And

1:13:28

I decided this is ridiculous. You

1:13:30

can't like. Fine, true love, so

1:13:33

I deleted the app. But I

1:13:35

think somewhere back in my subconscious,

1:13:37

it knew that I would get

1:13:40

my 20 new matches every day

1:13:42

via email. And of course, I

1:13:44

got my 20 new matches. I'm

1:13:47

like, I'll write, I'll bite. So

1:13:49

I went on. And the biggest

1:13:51

pet peeve was profiles where someone

1:13:54

was wearing a hat and someone

1:13:56

was wearing sunglasses. Really? Some glasses

1:13:58

for a profile seems weird to

1:14:01

me. anybody can look hot wearing

1:14:03

sunglasses you know so and a

1:14:05

hat so um so but this

1:14:08

guy had the most most unbelievable

1:14:10

smile like a smile just that'll

1:14:12

that that melts me so I

1:14:15

was like all right well I'll

1:14:17

bite and I clicked on it

1:14:19

and and there was this history

1:14:21

although he did tell me when

1:14:24

we first started talking was that

1:14:26

he um his his profile was

1:14:28

Jake And he said that my

1:14:31

name's not Jake and I'm homeless.

1:14:33

I can just pick him. Boy

1:14:35

can I pick him. And then

1:14:38

he was in South Korea at

1:14:40

the time. So that was cool.

1:14:42

Wow. So you guys met at

1:14:45

the Chipotle that's in between LA

1:14:47

and South Korea? No, we talked

1:14:49

for 10 days and then I

1:14:52

flew to South Korea. Because, you

1:14:54

know, you only live once and

1:14:56

you can always fly back and

1:14:59

I'm homeless. But it just so

1:15:01

happened that we hit it off

1:15:03

and now we're eight years and

1:15:06

so on later. Man, you must

1:15:08

have really liked his smile to

1:15:10

get on a plane and go

1:15:13

to South Korea where he was

1:15:15

based. That's where he was deployed

1:15:17

at the time in South Korea

1:15:20

or his appointment was there at

1:15:22

South Korea. I don't know what

1:15:24

the heck you call it. I

1:15:27

choose to ignore all that stuff.

1:15:29

He comes home and tells me

1:15:31

all this stuff and I have

1:15:34

no idea what he's talking about.

1:15:36

fascinating honey well we so wait

1:15:38

a minute it must have been

1:15:41

bizarre wait a minute now Well,

1:15:43

first off, he couldn't have asked

1:15:45

you to fly to South Korea.

1:15:47

You had to volunteer that. That's

1:15:50

a big ask. Oh, no, no,

1:15:52

no, no. I definitely said, because

1:15:54

I knew that he had leave

1:15:57

coming up, his group against, I

1:15:59

don't know what the technical term

1:16:01

is, he's going to kill me.

1:16:04

But had a leave coming up

1:16:06

to go into, whenever the place

1:16:08

was called. I'm just gonna go

1:16:11

there. And so it was my

1:16:13

idea. I was like, wow, you

1:16:15

have four or five days of

1:16:18

leave coming up. So hey, why

1:16:20

don't I, why don't I just

1:16:22

jaunt on over there and see

1:16:25

if we get along? That's a,

1:16:27

I love that story. And look,

1:16:29

I don't want to put words

1:16:32

or thoughts in your mouth, but

1:16:34

I'm guessing you like normal. Like

1:16:36

I love normal. men especially I

1:16:39

like normal women too but I

1:16:41

hate affected guys you know I

1:16:43

like just dudes you know like

1:16:46

good dudes everyone says that but

1:16:48

they're hard to find in Hollywood

1:16:50

I just like old school good

1:16:53

dudes hardworking whatever and I was

1:16:55

just I just spent a day

1:16:57

with the Army Corps of Engineers

1:17:00

and the guy who runs the

1:17:02

Army Corps engineers out here doing

1:17:04

cleanup in the palisades driving all

1:17:07

over and I just thought God

1:17:09

I miss competent normal dudes who

1:17:11

are like very linear in their

1:17:13

thinking and super pragmatic and here's

1:17:16

how we got to do this

1:17:18

we're up early and we're trying

1:17:20

to scale it up and stuff

1:17:23

and it's like everything single thing

1:17:25

that comes out of mouth is

1:17:27

just practical he didn't start anything

1:17:30

with I feel like you know

1:17:32

I need you know it was

1:17:34

nothing about was never anything I

1:17:37

I was always like here's what

1:17:39

we're gonna do here's what we're

1:17:41

doing here's my job this is

1:17:44

my job this is my job

1:17:46

yeah and I like that I

1:17:48

like it a lot He's from

1:17:51

the Midwest men. He's from Iowa,

1:17:53

Nebraska. He grew up, you know,

1:17:55

small towns, his father was a

1:17:58

police officer, and he started, he

1:18:00

got into the Marines late, he,

1:18:02

he, unless, when he was 26,

1:18:05

but, but it is, it's very

1:18:07

pragmatic, it's very, um, simple, and

1:18:09

I don't say the word simple,

1:18:12

you know, when it sometimes uses

1:18:14

a negative term, but it's just

1:18:16

a very, which I crave is

1:18:19

simplicity. Now listen. I'm like, a

1:18:21

helium balloon floating around going, oh,

1:18:23

shiny. That's my head sometimes. And

1:18:26

he is my rock. He's the

1:18:28

one that grabs onto that string

1:18:30

of the balloon and says, why

1:18:33

don't you just chill down here

1:18:35

on earth for a little while?

1:18:37

And I'm like, well, God, thank

1:18:40

you. But yeah, he's just, he's

1:18:42

just salt of the earth. He's

1:18:44

just he wants to... take care

1:18:46

of things. He's, I don't say

1:18:49

he's a manly man, which, oh

1:18:51

boy, I can get into big

1:18:53

trouble for that these days, can

1:18:56

I? But he's just, he's old

1:18:58

school man. Is that because I'm

1:19:00

old, he's old, so we're old

1:19:03

school. Is that, is that, is

1:19:05

that acceptable these days? I like

1:19:07

it. I find it weird. Let's

1:19:10

see, my thing is, I think

1:19:12

it's nice. that I have a

1:19:14

background in carpentry and that if

1:19:17

I'm with a woman in the

1:19:19

bookshelf needs to be put up,

1:19:21

then I can put it up

1:19:24

because I have tools and I

1:19:26

used to do it for a

1:19:28

living and it's nice. And you

1:19:31

know what? I'm with a woman

1:19:33

now and she cooks and I

1:19:35

like it. and it's oh I

1:19:38

don't know what you want to

1:19:40

call it old school I don't

1:19:42

know I'll do the carpentry you

1:19:45

do the cooking it sounds pretty

1:19:47

good you got a roller skate

1:19:49

I got a key I don't

1:19:52

know why both of us need

1:19:54

to not know anything or even

1:19:56

or both of us cook except

1:19:59

for who's putting up the bookshelf?

1:20:01

Like it's nice. Yeah? Oh no,

1:20:03

I love it. I love the

1:20:06

simple, I just love it. There's

1:20:08

no, like I'm a real introvert.

1:20:10

I don't spend a lot of

1:20:12

time going out. I, you know,

1:20:15

I did the whole party thing

1:20:17

in Hollywood for when I was

1:20:19

in my 20s and 30s and

1:20:22

that was great and everybody wanted

1:20:24

a piece of view, which is

1:20:26

exactly why I kind of, backed

1:20:29

away from that because I just

1:20:31

I you know you everybody wants

1:20:33

a piece of you while I'm

1:20:36

at while you're at work all

1:20:38

day long and people are in

1:20:40

your face and up your clothes

1:20:43

and and just and it's it's

1:20:45

it's insane and so I just

1:20:47

I love a good night sitting

1:20:50

on the couch reading about what

1:20:52

I do yeah well I mean

1:20:54

I think I kind of think

1:20:57

we're wired to want something different

1:20:59

than what we've been doing for

1:21:01

a while as humans. I mean,

1:21:04

it's, I always think about food,

1:21:06

like I love Thai food, but

1:21:08

if I eat Thai food two

1:21:11

days in a row, I don't

1:21:13

want Thai food a third day

1:21:15

in a row, and for everything,

1:21:18

everything's that way. So yeah, you're

1:21:20

in a job where there's lights

1:21:22

and people and cameras and everything.

1:21:25

And it is weird, yeah, like

1:21:27

hair and makeup, someone's always touching

1:21:29

you, you know what I mean?

1:21:32

And then what you want is,

1:21:34

is the opposite. You went, you

1:21:36

went quiet and solitude. But if

1:21:38

you sit around long enough reading

1:21:41

the book at some point, you

1:21:43

want to get out and do

1:21:45

something different than that. Every once

1:21:48

in a while, every once in

1:21:50

a while. Well, so for you,

1:21:52

was, was your big break, was,

1:21:55

was, meet the parents, was that

1:21:57

the, where America sort of found

1:21:59

out who you, I think, I

1:22:02

think to a larger, to a

1:22:04

larger degree, yes. I had done

1:22:06

a couple of things. that I

1:22:09

was known or I would say

1:22:11

probably around the business to a

1:22:13

certain degree, but definitely not. There

1:22:16

were a couple things in a

1:22:18

couple movies that I did that

1:22:20

became cult hits like Aspen Extreme.

1:22:23

Oh yeah, skiing. And there's a,

1:22:25

what was it called, mystery date

1:22:27

with Ethan Hawk, you know, right

1:22:30

after Ethan. Deadpoet Society. And so

1:22:32

those were a couple of little

1:22:34

things and and but yeah I

1:22:37

would say like absolutely huge mainstream

1:22:39

was was meet the parents and

1:22:41

then and then after that came

1:22:44

amazing things like like West Wing

1:22:46

and and Sports Night and a

1:22:48

couple a couple movies that were

1:22:51

that were okay. So and you

1:22:53

grew up on the East Coast

1:22:55

you're classically trained in ballet and

1:22:58

you model at a younger age.

1:23:00

And well look I don't you

1:23:02

know when you're young and everyone

1:23:04

comes up to you and tells

1:23:07

you it should be a model

1:23:09

and sort of pushes you into

1:23:11

it I don't I don't really

1:23:14

know when I was young that

1:23:16

I would have prevented anyone from

1:23:18

pushing me into anything. Well, for

1:23:21

me, it was, you know, I

1:23:23

was a small town girl, Dover,

1:23:25

Delaware, and there was, you know,

1:23:28

the store Legate at the town

1:23:30

mall, and they had this 17

1:23:32

magazine cover model contest, and I

1:23:35

was like, well, why not? I

1:23:37

was in acting, I was in

1:23:39

dancing, and so I decided to

1:23:42

enter into it, and I was

1:23:44

the finalist for that particular store,

1:23:46

Dover, Delaware. and went on, they

1:23:49

sent it in, they became one

1:23:51

of the 10 finalists for 20.

1:23:53

finalist, whatever the heck it was,

1:23:56

I don't know. And then ended

1:23:58

up not winning or not, but

1:24:00

I did a lead, jeans ad.

1:24:03

And it was a waste to

1:24:05

a means for me. I knew

1:24:07

I wasn't going to dance. I

1:24:10

just didn't, I wasn't good enough.

1:24:12

I didn't have the technique. I

1:24:14

loved it, but it's also a

1:24:17

very, you know, you think the

1:24:19

acting world is bad. Dance world

1:24:21

is vicious. And so between my

1:24:24

junior and senior year of high

1:24:26

school, I went to New York

1:24:28

to go to open calls at

1:24:30

different smaller modeling agencies. And there

1:24:33

was one modeling agency called Petite

1:24:35

Model Management that was a subsidiary

1:24:37

of elite management, elite model management,

1:24:40

I can't remember what it was,

1:24:42

elite, with John Casablanca, who was

1:24:44

the owner and stuff. And so

1:24:47

that was. signing with that agency,

1:24:49

they sent you out on what

1:24:51

we called legit meetings, which was

1:24:54

for commercials and TV. And so

1:24:56

that was kind of my way

1:24:58

in that door of auditioning for

1:25:01

television and commercials and that kind

1:25:03

of thing, which is where I

1:25:05

really wanted to get. This is

1:25:08

an esoteric. possibly bizarre question, but

1:25:10

it's because I was talking to

1:25:12

Dr. Drew about the subject yesterday,

1:25:15

which is we're talking about just

1:25:17

being a very attractive young woman

1:25:19

in this society and how that

1:25:22

would lead you to think and

1:25:24

how society would sort of work

1:25:26

around you. And I remember many

1:25:29

years ago I was talking to

1:25:31

a co-host on a show I

1:25:33

was working on who was a

1:25:36

tall blonde and very attractive. model

1:25:38

named Catherine McCord and I said

1:25:40

to her I said oh I

1:25:43

got I missed a flight because

1:25:45

the flight I was late and

1:25:47

I showed up and I could

1:25:50

like see the Pilot through the

1:25:52

window sitting in the cockpit and

1:25:54

I was like I'm here and

1:25:56

they said I shut the door,

1:25:59

the door shut, you can't make

1:26:01

it on the flight, blah blah

1:26:03

blah. And she goes, oh that

1:26:06

happened to me once and the

1:26:08

pilot saw me and he went

1:26:10

hold on and he went around

1:26:13

and like opened the door and

1:26:15

she said like why didn't that

1:26:17

happen for you? And I said

1:26:20

well I don't look like like

1:26:22

you, it's a dude pilot and

1:26:24

she went on to tell me

1:26:27

another story which is funny, she

1:26:29

goes my uh the guy who's

1:26:31

in charge of my yard who

1:26:34

cut down the tree or whatever's

1:26:36

doing all the yard work the

1:26:38

landscape guy he he baked me

1:26:41

an apple pie and I said

1:26:43

yeah well I never got a

1:26:45

pie for many guys doing work

1:26:48

in my yard he's like well

1:26:50

he's such a nice guy and

1:26:52

I'm like he's not nice he

1:26:55

wants to screw you know to

1:26:57

me like you think this is

1:26:59

life this is not life this

1:27:02

is your life because you're a

1:27:04

six foot blonde and this is

1:27:06

how you think society works, but

1:27:09

this is not how society works.

1:27:11

But then Dr. Drew said, but

1:27:13

how can you really blame her?

1:27:16

We weren't talking about her specifically,

1:27:18

but how can you blame someone

1:27:20

who's in this position for thinking

1:27:22

differently than I would think? And

1:27:25

I go, you really can't. How

1:27:27

could you? Right. So yeah. And

1:27:29

it's hard to reflect on it,

1:27:32

I guess, for yourself, but being

1:27:34

in that position, did you sort

1:27:36

of think about you and society

1:27:39

and differences? You know, I gotta

1:27:41

say not necessarily at that time,

1:27:43

for sure. I was young. I

1:27:46

was very naive, very innocent. I

1:27:48

don't know how I wasn't devoured

1:27:50

by the business. But I would

1:27:53

say at that time, absolutely, it

1:27:55

never occurred to me. thing that

1:27:57

I can say in regards to

1:28:00

that though at that time was

1:28:02

I always was very conscious of

1:28:04

what was so obnoxiously and I

1:28:07

believe it still referred to this

1:28:09

in fact there's a movie out

1:28:11

I think referred to on sets

1:28:14

as above the line and below

1:28:16

the line and even at a

1:28:18

very young age I was very

1:28:21

offended by that you know it

1:28:23

wasn't necessarily to do with with

1:28:25

you know male or female or

1:28:28

attractive or not attractive, but it

1:28:30

was the actors were considered above

1:28:32

the line and the crew was

1:28:35

considered below the line and I

1:28:37

always always always thought that that

1:28:39

was wrong from a young age

1:28:42

and from when I first started

1:28:44

working I just thought I thought

1:28:46

that was so bizarre because the

1:28:48

fact the matter is that you

1:28:51

can't you can't do anything you

1:28:53

can't do a movie you can't

1:28:55

do a television show you can't

1:28:58

if you don't have The craft

1:29:00

service for all those pissy-ass actors

1:29:02

who have to have green M&M's

1:29:05

and, you know, a room-temperature coke

1:29:07

or whatever the heck it was.

1:29:09

You can't do a show without

1:29:12

the grips and the dolly, the

1:29:14

dolly grip and the lighting guys

1:29:16

and the hair and makeup. You

1:29:19

can't, you can't. to try okay

1:29:21

above the line here go go

1:29:23

go make a movie and we

1:29:26

would all be lost so that

1:29:28

to me was always you know

1:29:30

such an inequality and such a

1:29:33

kind of a thing that I

1:29:35

thought was was always kind of

1:29:37

bullshit and so in regards to

1:29:40

you know what you're talking about

1:29:42

back then I I knew it

1:29:44

there were many times where I

1:29:47

absolutely benefited from I think more

1:29:49

often than not, though, it was

1:29:51

more about, well, this is the

1:29:54

actor, this is, you know, the

1:29:56

star, this is, you know, there's

1:29:58

one story. with someone whom I

1:30:01

won't name, but it was an

1:30:03

ex. And we had gone to,

1:30:05

I think it was like the

1:30:08

MTV movie awards or something like

1:30:10

that, and we're going backstage, they're

1:30:12

taking me back since for something,

1:30:14

and they have all, you know,

1:30:17

they, it's absurd to me how

1:30:19

they have tables of all of

1:30:21

this free stuff that costs millions

1:30:24

of dollars, and they give it

1:30:26

to these actors who make millions

1:30:28

of dollars, they just give it

1:30:31

to them to them. The concept

1:30:33

is if this actor has it,

1:30:35

ooh, I got to save up

1:30:38

10 paycheck so I can go

1:30:40

buy that same multi-million dollar thing

1:30:42

that that actor has. However, anyway,

1:30:45

so I'm giving sweets, they used

1:30:47

to call him too. And there

1:30:49

was like a table of sunglasses

1:30:52

and they were like, you know,

1:30:54

which kind of, which sunglasses would

1:30:56

you like? And I looked and

1:30:59

I was like, no, that's okay.

1:31:01

I don't really want any of

1:31:03

whatever. And this person at the

1:31:06

time said, well, gee, I wonder

1:31:08

which ones I'll take. And the

1:31:10

guy, the person was like, no,

1:31:13

no, no, it's only for people

1:31:15

with wristbands, which was for the

1:31:17

actors. Right. That moment that I

1:31:20

just said, wow, privilege, privilege is

1:31:22

just, is so assumed to a

1:31:24

certain degree. You know, then putting

1:31:27

that onto attractiveness, what is called

1:31:29

attractive, what is considered attractive, and

1:31:31

then, you know, gender. Yeah, nowadays?

1:31:34

I get it. I stink and

1:31:36

get it. And there are times

1:31:38

when I have been offered certain

1:31:40

things that I have been... tried

1:31:43

to give me things and stuff

1:31:45

like that. I'm like, I just

1:31:47

I really don't need it. I

1:31:50

don't want it. A flycoach. I

1:31:52

know I wear sweats and I

1:31:54

don't wear. There used to be

1:31:57

a time when I was the

1:31:59

girl that people looked at now

1:32:01

and I'm what's the word that

1:32:04

Merrill Street used expendable or or

1:32:06

not relevant, which is totally fine

1:32:08

with me. I really don't give

1:32:11

a shit. But yeah, I'm very

1:32:13

aware of it. I have a

1:32:15

17-year-old daughter. And here's stunning, of

1:32:18

course. But what's interesting is she

1:32:20

gets bullied like nobody's business in

1:32:22

high school. Really? Like she's this

1:32:25

teeny tiny little blonde thing that

1:32:27

doesn't, you know, doesn't bother. Anybody?

1:32:29

She's a pretty girl and gets

1:32:32

bullied. She was physically assaulted in

1:32:34

school when she was a freshman.

1:32:36

Is she being bullied by other

1:32:39

girls? Um, not necessarily both. Which

1:32:41

I understand girls, which I understand

1:32:43

girls, girls, I don't get the

1:32:46

boys part. Why aren't they trying

1:32:48

to go on to go to

1:32:50

the prom with her or something?

1:32:53

I just, I find it so

1:32:55

bizarre. I find it so bizarre.

1:32:57

You know, I think there are

1:33:00

some aspects where, you know, being

1:33:02

a pretty female is female, woman,

1:33:04

girl, whatever, does not necessarily work

1:33:06

in your benefit. But I got

1:33:09

to be honest, if I was

1:33:11

the pilot of that plane and

1:33:13

I saw you like waving, I

1:33:16

would be out of that seat

1:33:18

so fast and open up that

1:33:20

damn door for you. You know,

1:33:23

you got to let it hot

1:33:25

men. Oh, God bless you. God

1:33:27

bless you. Yeah, it was a

1:33:30

real to do because Dr. Drew

1:33:32

was on the plane and we

1:33:34

were going somewhere together. And when

1:33:37

he realized I didn't, I was

1:33:39

off the plane, he got off

1:33:41

the plane and then I came

1:33:44

running into him like, okay, we

1:33:46

got to both go back on

1:33:48

the plane and they wouldn't let

1:33:51

us back on the plane and

1:33:53

he had left. his cashmere jacket

1:33:55

full-length cashmere jacket that his wife

1:33:58

just bought him for an anniversary

1:34:00

present on the plane that was

1:34:02

leaving and was having a quasi

1:34:05

meltdown that his wife was going

1:34:07

to scream at him for leaving

1:34:09

the Kashmir full-length jacket on the

1:34:11

on the flight. Did he get it

1:34:14

eventually on the other hand? Yeah

1:34:16

we made it some sort of

1:34:18

speaking thing college speaking thing as

1:34:20

I recall I mean I don't

1:34:23

know if you feel this way

1:34:25

but it sort of feels like

1:34:27

a dream. You know that that

1:34:30

life that world those you know

1:34:32

backstage MTV music awards something something

1:34:35

that person this person

1:34:37

you all the names

1:34:39

all the popular people

1:34:41

all the folks you

1:34:43

ran into the way the

1:34:46

business was it just

1:34:48

it just seems like a

1:34:50

like a dream like a

1:34:52

dream like oh dreaming a happy

1:34:55

dream and I don't mean like a

1:34:57

nightmare either but almost just like I

1:34:59

think somebody could sit down with me

1:35:02

and a bottle of wine in a

1:35:04

joint and convince me it never happened

1:35:06

yeah yeah and I would tend to

1:35:08

believe them I agree that was

1:35:10

it was a way different time

1:35:12

and I have to be really

1:35:14

careful because you know sometimes people

1:35:16

would be really surprised would be

1:35:19

really surprised I think and shocked

1:35:21

about shocked about about my

1:35:23

opinions on certain things.

1:35:25

And I mean, I think I

1:35:28

could touch on this without

1:35:30

getting in trouble, but you

1:35:32

know, I started 40 years