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And now, with Whether it

4:00

was his carpet cleaning days or

4:03

just living in LA, he hates

4:05

high traffic areas. Adam Grohl. Yeah,

4:07

get it on. Josh, you're in

4:09

studio. It's good to see you,

4:11

my friend. Good to see you,

4:13

Adam. I've been looking forward to

4:15

this day for a long time.

4:18

Yeah, me too. I had that

4:20

circled on my calendar. Yeah, that's

4:22

right about when I started. When

4:24

I started when I started. What,

4:26

so where did you move from?

4:28

I was from North Dakota. Yeah.

4:31

I moved from minor North Dakota

4:33

back in 95. Uh-huh. Move to

4:35

Northern California, work the construction job,

4:37

and I had to drive from

4:39

Napa, Sonoma County, Roanert Park every

4:41

day. And every night I'd be

4:43

listening to you, man. And you

4:46

found in the truck or like

4:48

back at the apartment? I think

4:50

I was still on my 90

4:52

or my 86 Ford Taurus. I

4:54

drove from Minot all the way

4:56

here, 255,000 miles or something. I'll

4:59

tell you, I like radio because

5:01

there's a kind of intimacy to

5:03

it and people go, oh, I

5:05

worked a night shift and I

5:07

used to listen and wet light

5:09

or some have the, I'd listen

5:11

to the radio, even though my

5:14

stepdad would tell me to go

5:16

to bed, but I put the

5:18

radio under the covers and stuff

5:20

like that. It's more intimate than

5:22

watching TV or even a movie.

5:24

Even though that's impactful, there's something

5:27

that's interesting. Because I do, I

5:29

get a lot of, I remember

5:31

where I was, kind of thing.

5:33

I remember it very well. I

5:35

mean, and it was, and it

5:37

was, I mean, when you're by

5:39

yourself, it's dark out, you're driving

5:42

home, and that's what I would

5:44

listen to every night. And there

5:46

was something, and you guys would

5:48

always talk about stuff that was

5:50

just a little bit naughty. When

5:53

did you decide or think that you

5:55

know Hollywood acting and that kind of

5:57

stuff was the path? I don't know.

5:59

I think I always dreamt about doing

6:01

it, wanting, you know, but when you

6:03

grow up in North Dakota, there's no

6:05

pathway to that, you know, so I

6:07

think that it was just sort of

6:09

a pipe dream. And I got my

6:11

degree in biology for Mine State University,

6:13

go beavers. And with the intention of

6:15

going to dental school, that was the

6:18

plan. And that's what I told my

6:20

mom I was moving to California to

6:22

do was to go to dental school.

6:24

But I think secretly I wanted to

6:26

do what I'm doing now, I just

6:28

didn't know. if I had the balls

6:30

to do it. And I didn't at

6:32

first, you know, and I struggled mightily

6:34

for the first few years. Ransom Canyon,

6:36

by the way, I should get the

6:38

plug out on Netflix. That's the new

6:40

series starring Josh and others as well.

6:42

And it's premieres on April 17th. I

6:44

saw the trailer and it looked. look

6:46

pretty damn good. Yeah, it is sort

6:49

of, I don't know, Friday Night Lights

6:51

meets, whatever that thing with Kossner was,

6:53

and I don't know, I'm trying to,

6:55

I'm trying to think of what it,

6:57

what to call it. It definitely has,

6:59

it definitely has elements of Yellowstone, it

7:01

has elements of Friday Night Lights, it's

7:03

a little bit Virgin River, it's, you

7:05

know, it's, it's very Americana, it has

7:07

a lot to do with, you know,

7:09

this, this guy who struggled with a

7:11

lot of, loss in the last couple

7:13

of years losing his wife and then

7:15

losing his son sort of at the

7:17

opening of the show and has been

7:19

a bit of a hermit until You

7:22

know until about a year later and

7:24

that's where it kind of begins Well

7:26

it looks good and it's going to

7:28

hit Netflix soon so circle that just

7:30

like Josh did with his appearance. Yes,

7:32

just like you did with his appearance

7:34

I mean me I did it so

7:36

you now Look, you're tall, you're strapping,

7:38

you're good-looking, so you have to know,

7:40

just like women that are tall and

7:42

pretty and blonde, like they have some

7:44

inkling, like, well, maybe I could be

7:46

on camera, but it doesn't mean I'm

7:48

going to be on camera, and it

7:50

doesn't mean I have ability, either, and

7:53

there's also other tall good-looking guys in

7:55

this, in this city, for sure. But

7:57

did you really? Dentists is one of

7:59

those jobs. I literally passed the dentist

8:01

office the other day when I was

8:03

walking and I thought I couldn't do

8:05

that. Like it's one of my I

8:07

couldn't do jobs. Could you be a

8:09

dentist? I thought I could and I

8:11

was actually really interested. My mom was

8:13

pushing me at an early age to

8:15

figure out what I wanted to do.

8:17

I was like I'm a freshman in

8:19

high school. I don't know. And so

8:21

early on I said, you know, I

8:23

think it was a sophomore maybe and

8:26

I said, you know what, I think

8:28

I want to be a dentist because

8:30

I was very good with drawing and

8:32

painting and sculpting and really good at

8:34

like artistically, I was one of my,

8:36

something I was good at. To be

8:38

an actual doctor I could never be,

8:40

I just didn't have the, you know,

8:42

the wherewithal or the, you know, motivation

8:44

to do that, but I felt like

8:46

I could, you know, you know, impressed

8:48

my mother by being a doctor. and

8:50

still do something I felt like I

8:52

could be good at. And that was

8:54

kind of the reason in the beginning.

8:57

That was 100 years ago now, but

8:59

you know, that was kind of the

9:01

first idea. And then I would go,

9:03

I would literally go, you know, watch

9:05

dentists do their thing, both in high

9:07

school and in college. I would sit

9:09

in and watch them, yeah. And had,

9:11

you know, every intention of doing it,

9:13

and then I just, you know, I

9:15

moved out here and then started sniffing

9:17

auditions for TV commercials and... stuff like

9:19

that and that was kind of the

9:21

beginning I started taking it very seriously

9:23

taking classes and the whole thing because

9:25

you know like you said it's you

9:27

know you're one in a million guys

9:30

like that you got to be good

9:32

and you got to be able to

9:34

you know not only get a job

9:36

but to stay stay working and I

9:38

think that's one thing you've done an

9:40

amazing job he's learned to adapt and

9:42

continue to evolve in this business I

9:44

mean it's really impressive oh thanks you

9:46

know you know it's a kind of

9:48

a business, I mean at least the

9:50

way I feel is I sort of

9:52

said the example was is like you're

9:54

a train and you're going 100 miles

9:56

an hour and you have to be

9:58

out front throwing down track all the

10:01

time. because the second you stop throwing

10:03

out track yeah the train just goes

10:05

right off into the abyss right exactly

10:07

and it there is that feeling of

10:09

like it can all end in an

10:11

overnight and and look I mean first

10:13

off you could first you could just

10:15

go on stage and go full

10:17

Michael Richards and it would all

10:19

just be gone right the next

10:21

morning yeah you know what I

10:23

mean so it's like it's especially

10:25

now yeah especially now and even

10:27

that stories and even that stories

10:29

you know 17 years old or something

10:31

he was sort of the poster child

10:34

for but what I mean is is

10:36

you have to keep inventing and

10:38

sort of reinventing and in

10:40

figuring out and and it's

10:43

it's interesting because it kind

10:45

of forces you into places

10:47

in spaces that you never really

10:49

thought like I write a book make

10:52

a documentary like what are you kidding

10:54

I'd never do that but then you

10:56

do it you know so it's It's

10:59

good and it's probably good that you

11:01

can't keep playing the sport as

11:03

you did when you were young.

11:05

You get kicked into the general

11:07

office, you know, or into the

11:09

booth and you do color commentary

11:11

or you write a column, you

11:13

know, to use a sports metaphor.

11:15

But I mean, that's kind of

11:17

what happens with careers. Yeah, and I

11:19

think that at least for me. I'm

11:21

guessing probably the same for you. I mean it

11:23

was they want to put you in a box

11:26

This is what you are. I started on all

11:28

the soap opera on all my children

11:30

in New York That was your first that

11:32

was my first gig and then Had success

11:34

on that right? It was it was

11:36

amazing because of the first time I

11:38

had I felt like I had the

11:41

support and people believed in me. I

11:43

was like oh my god. This is

11:45

great because I had you know sports

11:47

were rough coming up. You know I

11:49

was highly competitive, played football, played college

11:51

football. And I won't get into all that,

11:53

but it was, you know, part of

11:55

the beauty of sports is the winning

11:58

and the losing, knowing how to. you

12:00

know, pick yourself up and get back in

12:02

the saddle. All these things that I learned,

12:04

you know, it was pretty rough. So that

12:06

first gig on all my children was the

12:08

first time I really felt like I had,

12:10

you know, support. They believed in me and

12:12

that sort of gave me the, you know,

12:14

the initiative or the confidence to go on.

12:16

and leave after three years because they wanted

12:18

me to stay and I said you know

12:20

what I'm gonna go back I want to

12:22

try to get a show of like a

12:24

prime time show or something and I did

12:26

struggled for a year or two and then

12:28

got Las Vegas and then gotten which you

12:30

were on and you're on that with me

12:33

and then got win a day with that

12:35

and then I got and I was able

12:37

to sort of break out of that box

12:39

to get into you know okay now I

12:41

can do this but then they wanted you

12:43

to be so it's always for me at

12:45

least it's been for me at least has

12:47

been you to Give them

12:49

a little bit of what they

12:51

expect, but also do something that

12:53

they don't expect and that's really

12:55

what I'm continually trying to do

12:57

Yeah, it's it's weird Being in

13:00

show business where you fight so

13:02

hard for a job and then

13:04

leaving a job in show business

13:06

which is very rare because it's

13:08

always struggling to get as many

13:10

seasons as you can Yeah and

13:12

not exactly knowing what the next

13:14

thing is, is kind of interesting.

13:16

I suspect, or I just think,

13:18

at some point, you gotta be

13:20

calibrated. And when you're calibrated, like

13:22

your internal compass is facing true

13:25

north, then the answer for, are

13:27

you, you know, when your agent

13:29

goes, why do you wanna leave?

13:31

This is a great gig, it's

13:33

a steady paycheck. You don't know

13:35

if you're gonna find another, you

13:37

just go. because that's what I

13:39

want to do. You don't really

13:41

need to break it down. If

13:43

your instincts are good, and your

13:45

compass is facing true north, then

13:47

you just having the impulse to

13:49

do it is enough. And just

13:52

trying to stay ahead like. you

13:54

said throwing enough track out. Because

13:56

for me, it would have been

13:58

great. I could have had a

14:00

really steady job on all my

14:02

children. It was a good life.

14:04

I learned a ton. I loved

14:06

the people I worked with, but

14:08

I knew that if I stayed

14:10

another three years, it would be

14:12

that much harder to break out

14:14

of that box. So, you know,

14:17

it's all, it's, it's, it's, for

14:19

me, it's like being. grateful and

14:21

present in what I have now,

14:23

but also thinking about, okay, what

14:25

is next? Because it's, you know,

14:27

it's an ever-changing landscape out there,

14:29

as you know. And, you know,

14:31

I'm just, I'm just trying to,

14:33

you know, I'm just trying to

14:35

hustle. Really. Well, look, you know,

14:37

there's another part, I mean, if

14:39

you're going philosophical here, you go,

14:41

I've never really been out of

14:44

work. in show business or in

14:46

any business. So why wouldn't I

14:48

bet on myself? You know what

14:50

I mean? Like I would always

14:52

say when I was a carpenter,

14:54

but I'd say this in general,

14:56

when they go, there's a lot

14:58

of hardworking folks, they're out of

15:00

work. I go, who do you

15:02

know who's really good at their

15:04

job? Who's out of work? They

15:06

just work. And I don't even

15:09

know. how they work, because they

15:11

just wander from job to job

15:13

to job to job, but they

15:15

just work. And people that are

15:17

good, you know, semi sober and

15:19

have a motor, and then they

15:21

just work, and that's who you

15:23

are. But I want to go

15:25

back to sports, because I feel

15:27

like you've got a lot of

15:29

this ethic from sports, and I

15:31

attribute a lot of anything good

15:33

that I have in terms of

15:36

qualities from playing a lot of

15:38

sports, especially football. Baseball is a

15:40

little funner and a little easier

15:42

and a little less give it

15:44

up for the team. But football

15:46

is a real kind of give

15:48

it up for the team and

15:50

it's painful. And it's like, it's

15:52

uncomfortable. as well so what what

15:54

what's your experience well I mean

15:56

I was all I mean I

15:58

just love I still do I

16:01

love football's my favorite sport I

16:03

love the UFC basketball I played

16:05

I played a lot of sports

16:07

growing up because in North Dakota

16:09

that's what you do you know

16:11

there's just not a lot of

16:13

other things You know, like my

16:15

son's living here now in Los

16:17

Angeles, there's a million different things

16:19

he could do. Yes. He's finally

16:21

gotten into, you know, soccer and

16:23

really loves it. And I think

16:25

it's good for him. And part

16:28

of what I think is important

16:30

about that is that he, you

16:32

know, they get their ass kicked

16:34

a lot. You want that. You

16:36

know, but they also started winning

16:38

a couple games and you got

16:40

to have more winning than you

16:42

do losing, but you got to

16:44

know how to lose too. It's

16:46

this business. in whether it's the

16:48

entertainment business or or life in

16:50

general you're gonna get you're kicked

16:53

in the teeth and if you

16:55

know how to keep going and

16:57

just get back up and just

16:59

keep showing up yeah you got

17:01

a better shot you know and

17:03

yeah I mean you know it's

17:05

funny I have interviewed quite a

17:07

few athletes and and football players

17:09

especially and I always ask them

17:11

their memories or whatever their memories

17:13

are always of a failure or

17:15

a like and it's weird and

17:17

I started thinking to myself I

17:20

was like yeah I have a

17:22

couple old memories and they're usually

17:24

losing the championship game or something

17:26

and I and I was like

17:28

well there's plenty of victories too

17:30

but yeah I don't really remember

17:32

those that much and then I

17:34

realize maybe it's good that you

17:36

sort of have a let's not

17:38

let this happen again kind of

17:40

mindset is a as a human

17:42

being But I don't know about

17:44

you. Do you remember losing the

17:47

championship or do you remember scoring

17:49

the winning touchdown? No, I remember,

17:51

I mean, I remember mostly, it's

17:53

not about so much the winning

17:55

and losing, it's about the competition

17:57

for the job. It was about,

17:59

is about. winning the job and

18:01

it was about like, because in

18:03

college and in high school really,

18:05

I split time as quarterback. I

18:07

was kind of the pastor, another

18:09

guy who was a runner, this

18:12

kind of the same situation both

18:14

times. And it drove me crazy

18:16

because I felt like I should

18:18

have been the starter. And ultimately,

18:20

nothing worked out like I thought

18:22

it was going to like most

18:24

things don't. But what I learned

18:26

from that was that it was.

18:29

So valuable for me going forward

18:31

because I Gotta work everybody I

18:33

gotta show up every day, and

18:35

I gotta try to work them

18:37

and if eventually it's gonna you

18:39

know You're gonna have you're gonna

18:41

have you're gonna have success and

18:44

and so it was I was

18:46

bitter about that for a long

18:48

time because I truly felt like

18:50

I won the job, but it

18:52

was like this weird sort of

18:54

platoon system that we had This

18:56

is 30 years ago. It doesn't

18:58

matter now, but my point is

19:00

that I it was It gave

19:02

me that fire to go sort

19:04

of prove myself because I was

19:06

never really able to prove myself

19:08

until, and I'm still continuing to

19:10

try to do that. Yeah, you

19:12

know, we try to avoid all

19:15

that sort of adversarial stuff or

19:17

the disappointment or the critiques or

19:19

the whatever, but I think that's

19:21

a mistake. I got a lot.

19:23

personally, like I remember where I

19:25

was when my friends were making

19:27

fun of me for, for sucking

19:29

at football, and I was like,

19:31

I was like, I was a

19:33

kind, I started playing when I

19:35

was seven, and I had a

19:37

great skill at it, and I

19:39

was just better in everyone. Football?

19:41

Yeah, but is, but I had,

19:44

but it's a weird thing. So.

19:46

And it is a weird thing

19:48

to process and to deal with.

19:50

I was thinking back the other

19:52

day, I was so much better

19:54

than everybody that when I... I

19:56

was in the fifth grade, Mr.

19:58

Backus, my fifth grade teacher at

20:00

Colfax Elementary, he just pulled me

20:02

aside one day and he just

20:04

went, why are you so much

20:06

better than everyone here at sports?

20:08

Like you can do more push-ups,

20:10

you can do everything better than

20:12

everyone, but why? Like he wanted

20:15

to know why. And I was

20:17

just like, I don't know, I

20:19

like it or something. Were you

20:21

bigger and strong to everybody else?

20:23

I had this thing and I

20:25

now realize what it was. And

20:27

don't worry, it's going to take

20:29

a turn. It's not all ice

20:31

cream and roses here. I was

20:33

a little bit bigger than everyone

20:35

was. I had a weird, uncanny,

20:37

freakish sense of balance. And I

20:39

learned to ride a unicycle in

20:41

an afternoon, and two days later

20:44

I was riding it off of

20:46

picnic tables and riding on and

20:48

stuff like that. I had a

20:50

weird... balance thing. And then when

20:52

I realize pre-pubity when nothing is

20:54

kicked in and no everyone's kind

20:56

of the same, because pre-pubity is

20:58

everyone's basically no one's juicing, everyone's

21:00

in the same place, right? The

21:02

guy with the crazy sense of

21:04

balance is the guy who can

21:06

throw people around. And so I

21:08

would just throw everyone around and

21:10

I just whoop up on everyone,

21:13

but then puberty kicked out. All

21:15

my friends kicked in to like

21:17

a Jose Conceco type dad gene

21:19

pool and I kicked into a

21:21

sort of Danny DeVito type green

21:23

pool and so it was a

21:25

it was a weird thing. So

21:27

all my friends who I used

21:29

to. I would be so bored

21:31

wrestling them that I would say

21:33

when we wrestle I'm just going

21:35

to lay down and let you

21:37

pin me and then the game

21:39

will be how fast I throw

21:41

you off and pin you. We

21:44

won't even wrestle starting on our

21:46

feet. Now did you hit puberty

21:48

before they did? No we all

21:50

hit at the same time but

21:52

my I don't come from a

21:54

good gene pool. So my dad

21:56

doesn't have lumberjack jeans. He's got

21:58

skinny guy jeans, you know. And

22:00

so all of a sudden, my

22:02

friends that were, I used to

22:04

throw around, all of a sudden

22:06

they're throwing me around. And I'm

22:08

like, what's going on? And where

22:10

did that vein in your arm

22:13

come from? Like, where are these

22:15

muscles? And they're throwing the weights

22:17

around and stuff. And I'm like,

22:19

wait a man, I can't do

22:21

this. And I didn't know what

22:23

it was. But everyone is now

22:25

kicking my ass and I used

22:27

to formally kick everyone else's ass

22:29

and my two closest friends are

22:31

both turning into monster studs on

22:33

the football team. And so people,

22:35

Steve Hughes, said to me when

22:37

I was about 15 or 16,

22:39

a bunch of guys, I just

22:41

went, used to kick acid football.

22:44

And I was like, yeah, you're

22:46

on the bench on the B

22:48

team. You're not starting on the

22:50

B team. And I go, yeah,

22:52

I know, I'm trying, you know,

22:54

and they're like, remember back when

22:56

we were 10? You used to

22:58

kick ass? What happened? And they

23:00

all started kind of laughing at

23:02

me going, well, you're good at

23:04

one thing, because I wasn't good

23:06

at school. I was good at

23:08

one thing. That was football, and

23:10

now you're not. So I was

23:13

like. And then I'll start making

23:15

fun of me and I just

23:17

went, okay, I'll be back. And

23:19

I started like a rocky montage,

23:21

just drinking raw eggs and going

23:23

to the weight room and I

23:25

just transformed myself. And I was

23:27

also like, they were like, look,

23:29

come back and play on the

23:31

B team the next year and

23:33

you'll start. Keep your weight down

23:35

so you can make it onto

23:37

the B team because it wouldn't

23:39

let you on if you're like

23:42

over 170 pounds or something. And

23:44

I remember I'm telling me that,

23:46

I just went, no, I'm gonna

23:48

start drinking eggs and I'm going

23:50

to that weight room and I'm

23:52

going to varsity next year. And

23:54

I don't care if I sit

23:56

on the bench on varsity, I'm

23:58

going next year. and I ended

24:00

up being all valley first team

24:02

and led the team in varsity

24:04

and cut college cut scholarships and

24:06

stuff but it's all because I

24:08

was being beaten down and I

24:10

just snapped and I'll show you

24:13

yeah and I and I could

24:15

have went back to my house

24:17

and slammed heroin and just called

24:19

it a day but I got

24:21

motivated was weird well I mean

24:23

that that goes it's sort of

24:25

the same story that I you

24:27

know you you sometimes need to

24:29

get kicked in the teeth in

24:31

order to come back because yes

24:33

you know but for me it

24:35

was like I thought that I

24:37

was much better than I probably

24:39

was to be honest I thought

24:42

I was gonna go pro but

24:44

no I wasn't even close to

24:46

being good enough to go pro

24:48

so you know it was a

24:50

humbling sort of experience to learn

24:52

that okay you know what this

24:54

is not gonna go your way

24:56

but there is you you can

24:58

you can you can you can

25:00

come back you know that's that's

25:02

really what my whole You know,

25:04

mantra's ban is I just got

25:06

out work people. I keep showing

25:08

up. Was your work ethic strong

25:10

back then? Yeah. I mean, I've

25:13

always I've always been somebody who

25:15

tries, you know, because I don't

25:17

have a lot of, you know,

25:19

I wasn't I wasn't the guy

25:21

who was kicking everybody's ass. Well,

25:23

I was H 13. I just

25:25

was never that guy. I was

25:27

tall and I was pretty quick,

25:29

but I was just never gonna

25:31

be, you know, a star athlete.

25:33

Yeah. It sort of self-regulates, like

25:35

it tosses people out, no matter

25:37

how much you wanted it, no

25:39

matter how much I wanted it,

25:42

by the time you get to

25:44

a certain age and it's young,

25:46

it just pushes you out, you

25:48

just sluff off. Whereas lots of

25:50

guys want to be a comedian

25:52

or write a book or be

25:54

a country singer or be an

25:56

actor, and they're into their 50s

25:58

now, and they never sluff off.

26:00

Like they don't get pushed out.

26:02

Which in a way... You'd be

26:04

doing them a service if you

26:06

got them to kind of get

26:08

on with it. You know what

26:11

I'm saying? Yeah. And sports just

26:13

spit you out. Yeah, I mean,

26:15

it's a true meritocracy. Yes. If

26:17

you're not, if you, if you're

26:19

not, you know, contributing to the

26:21

team or winning, you're out. I

26:23

do believe we are, not secretly,

26:25

but why are we so attracted

26:27

to sports? And I think it's

26:29

the meritocracy part. I think it's

26:31

the part where we absolutely know

26:33

that that all 11 guys on

26:35

the defensive side of the ball

26:37

on that Super Bowl team are

26:39

the best 11 guys they could

26:42

find to be on the defensive

26:44

side of the ball. And you

26:46

never kind of go like, you

26:48

don't have it, you don't break

26:50

it up. It's like they're all

26:52

black. And you just go. They're

26:54

the best guys. You know, and

26:56

if there is a white safety,

26:58

you go, that guy must be

27:00

a hell of a safety. You

27:02

know, you don't go. I bet

27:04

he knows the owner or anything.

27:06

You just go. There's none of

27:08

that. Those are the best. And

27:11

I think that's what I love

27:13

about it, too. You have C's

27:15

the same way. It's a full-on,

27:17

like, right, which I think, I

27:19

think people need to understand that,

27:21

because you take something like, you

27:23

know, and then the Oscars. You

27:25

know what I mean? And that

27:27

30 years ago, two biggest nights

27:29

on television were the Oscars and

27:31

the Super Bowl. And the Super

27:33

Bowl just kept getting more and

27:35

more popular in UFC, more and

27:37

more popular. I mean, you know,

27:39

how much more popular were the

27:42

Oscars in the UFC 25 years

27:44

ago or whatever? But then the

27:46

Oscar started fiddling a little bit.

27:48

And they started doing a little

27:50

D.E.I. stuff and saying, well, we

27:52

want more. And then people started

27:54

watching going, is that really the

27:56

best film of the year? Or

27:58

how come they didn't do the

28:00

big action blockbuster that kicked ass?

28:02

You know, the first Transformers, man.

28:04

I was just funny, action pack.

28:06

I should have won an Academy

28:08

Award, right. Right. Right. But Moonlight

28:11

one. or whatever. And no, honestly,

28:13

why not? Super creative, funny, action-packed,

28:15

so on and so forth. But

28:17

so then people started looking at

28:19

the Oscars going, is that really

28:21

the best? And the second, that

28:23

happens in the Super Bowl, it's

28:25

over, right? Is that quarterback really

28:27

the best guy? Or is he

28:29

just in there because of this?

28:31

He checks some box or something.

28:33

So UFC. Ultimate meritocracy right football

28:35

meritocracy and and that's why I

28:37

think humans and especially men are

28:39

Inherently attracted to it. Yeah, it's

28:42

it goes all the way back

28:44

to the you know the Gladiator

28:46

days right? It's it's it's it's

28:48

winter die. You know it's it's

28:50

you survive or you get eaten

28:52

by the lion? And I think

28:54

that it's the last you know

28:56

sports of the last remaining Primal

28:58

sort of thing that we can

29:00

look to especially I just could

29:02

keep going back to the USC

29:04

I love it I mean it's

29:06

it can be brutal No, I

29:08

love it too and it but

29:11

it's it's it's the talent the

29:13

athleticism The courage that it takes

29:15

to get into that ring. I

29:17

mean I could I love watching

29:19

it, but that's one thing I

29:21

could never do now. I'm with

29:23

you man. I was I used

29:25

a box, but I I was

29:27

even a pussy I don't know,

29:29

that's Connor McGregor. There's really in

29:31

boxing, but in combat sports, there's

29:33

really like 9.9 men, if you

29:35

punch them really hard, think to

29:37

themselves, oh man, I don't want

29:40

that to happen again. But there's

29:42

0.1% that think, I'm gonna kill

29:44

the guy who punched me. And

29:46

I don't know, that's Connor McGregor.

29:48

But there's gonna be a little

29:50

crazy. You have to go. Because

29:52

when you get punched, like sometimes.

29:54

When I spar the guy punch

29:56

in the shoulder and you go,

29:58

oh my god, he hits so

30:00

hard like if that's how hard

30:02

he hits that me the face.

30:04

I'm fucked. But I never thought,

30:06

oh, he hit me. Now I'm

30:08

going to kill him. I thought,

30:11

let's not get hit was always

30:13

my kind of head space on

30:15

it. Floyd, money, weather, saw him

30:17

at the Lakers game. So you

30:19

come out and you leave New

30:21

York where you have a job.

30:23

I mean, soap operas about as

30:25

close as you're going to have

30:27

to a non. to a regular

30:29

job in show business. Right? Like

30:31

it's acting, it's on camera, it's

30:33

a TV show, but the run

30:35

could be 40 years. Yeah. I

30:37

mean, I think all my children

30:40

went like 45 or 50 years.

30:42

Young and the rest has been

30:44

on since the early 70s, I

30:46

know that much. And yes, it

30:48

is, I guess, the closest thing

30:50

to a, you know, a clocking

30:52

in everyday and going to work.

30:54

for a young actor just coming

30:56

just trying to learn it's the

30:58

best possible place you know it

31:00

was like boot camp it's like

31:02

you learn where your light is

31:04

you learn where you know you

31:06

how to hit a mark you

31:08

learn a lot of lines every

31:11

day yeah how to handle the

31:13

media on a much smaller scale

31:15

so that you know if you

31:17

do ever go outside of that

31:19

you have some idea so for

31:21

me it was perfect because I

31:23

didn't have I was still very

31:25

green I was very ambitious I

31:27

really wanted to learn I wanted

31:29

to be good And it was

31:31

nothing but fond memories of that

31:33

place. Yeah, no, it's getting your

31:35

10,000 hours in. Yeah. And it's

31:37

kind of, people sort of make

31:40

fun of it sometimes, like soap

31:42

opera actor, but you really get

31:44

your reps, you really get your

31:46

time in, and it's a good

31:48

exercise, I would say. I don't

31:50

know if you want to do

31:52

it for 30 years, but it's

31:54

a good from where you came

31:56

from. It's a. good base right

31:58

yeah and it it teaches you

32:00

you know it's i approach this

32:02

business with a real blue call

32:04

attitude I really do I mean

32:06

I because I've worked construction for

32:09

years I worked in warehouse I

32:11

worked in these shit jobs for

32:13

so long that I off every

32:15

day I remind myself how lucky

32:17

I am and how quickly this

32:19

can all go away you know

32:21

so you know whether it's the

32:23

you know craft service guy or

32:25

it's the producer who's you know

32:27

running the network That kind

32:29

of stuff, you know, if you're an

32:32

asshole You get you get sloughed off

32:34

pretty quick And you know, and that's

32:36

it's kind of the mentality that I've

32:38

had is that this thing can go

32:40

away very quickly If you don't continue

32:43

to evolve continue to work at and

32:45

continue to you know treat people with

32:47

respect. Yeah, well no one needs you

32:49

You know what I mean, so and

32:51

it always happens. I mean you've been

32:54

in those meetings where someone goes well

32:56

we get so and so and so

32:58

to direct this thing and they go

33:00

three people go I Life's too short.

33:02

I've worked with that guy before he's

33:05

a douche. I don't want to do

33:07

that like like it does It you

33:09

know a lot of it is Your

33:11

craft in your ability, but there are

33:13

plenty of people that have a look

33:16

or have ability or have the craft

33:18

at a certain point It's a it's

33:20

a hang. It's like a long hang.

33:22

Do you want to hang with this

33:25

person? You want to hang with this

33:27

person? And I can tell you, I've

33:29

been in a million meetings where people

33:31

are just like, yeah, that person's okay,

33:33

director, writer, whatever, but the guy's a

33:36

douche, you know, I don't wanna, I

33:38

don't wanna fucking go in office with

33:40

that guy every day. And then just

33:42

get rid of you. And you never

33:44

know why. And that's the truth. I

33:47

mean, and now more than ever, I

33:49

think you really have to, it's a,

33:51

you know, world than it was when

33:53

I first started. Oh yeah. It's, it's,

33:55

it's, it's not, you just got to

33:58

really, so for me. Stay

34:00

out of politics If I if

34:02

I start talking politics, I'm gonna

34:04

get you know, I'm gonna piss

34:07

somebody off. Oh, yeah You know

34:09

and you and more than it

34:11

now more than ever I mean

34:13

dude I bought I bought a

34:16

cyber truck I bought this before

34:18

all this before it all started

34:20

hitting the fan. Yeah, I can't

34:22

tell you how many people have

34:25

flipped me off really down the

34:27

streets like daily like day times

34:29

a day. Really? Yeah I'm like,

34:32

why are you so angry, man?

34:34

I didn't, I'm just, I thought

34:36

I was doing something for the

34:38

environment. Geez, leave you alone. It

34:41

is. It's uncanual. Well, but did

34:43

every once in a while, some

34:45

guy do fuck you and then

34:47

yell, Vegas sucked? No. And I

34:50

don't know if it was all

34:52

about the truck. I just feel

34:54

like I'm, the devil because I'm

34:56

driving this truck. It is, I,

34:59

look, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's

35:01

bizarre and it's, it's, it's, it's,

35:03

it's bizarre and it's non- and

35:05

it's non- and it's non- and

35:08

it's non- and it's non- and

35:10

it's it's borderline insane or maybe

35:12

it is insane maybe it's not

35:14

borderline like first off Elon Musk

35:17

and whatever he's doing is about

35:19

10 minutes old like it's literally

35:21

weeks it's not years it's just

35:23

weeks so the average you know

35:26

I think if he said the

35:28

average Los Angeles no car owner

35:30

who's driving around the freeways probably

35:32

had that vehicle for an average

35:35

of 5.3 years or something like

35:37

that there's There's probably 3% of

35:39

Tesla's on the road were purchased

35:41

after Elon started calling the shots

35:44

and the lion's share before. So

35:46

just that alone. You bought the

35:48

car before whatever they thought of

35:50

Elon back when they loved Elon.

35:53

So they used to worship at

35:55

the altar of Elon. So that's

35:57

when you bought the car. That's

35:59

when everyone bought their Tesla. So

36:02

that's number one. It's electric car,

36:04

which these people always talk about,

36:06

saving the environment. Number three, it's

36:09

not like, I don't know, either.

36:11

Elon owns 13% of Tesla or

36:13

whatever it is. It's not like

36:15

he sits up on a big

36:18

Tesla thrown every day and calls

36:20

the shots. He's a minority owner

36:22

in it. And number four, he's

36:24

trying to save some money. I

36:27

don't know why, I don't know

36:29

why we decided he's enemy number

36:31

one. But and number five, it

36:33

doesn't get you anywhere to flip

36:36

off someone who's driving a. a

36:38

Tesla truck or any Tesla. I

36:40

mean that brings up a couple

36:42

of things like first of all

36:45

I don't I truly don't understand

36:47

like I'm trying to figure out

36:49

where where did the this like

36:51

this true disdain that they have

36:54

suddenly is it because he's he's

36:56

involved with Trump is that the

36:58

reason why he's well okay first

37:00

thing I know that he came

37:03

out and he did like the

37:05

looked like he did a how

37:07

Hitler thing right I'll tell you

37:09

know no no no That wasn't

37:12

the beginning. So what happened was,

37:14

is, okay, first off, I was

37:16

in London during all this, so

37:18

I was kind of watching it

37:21

from a, through a different land.

37:23

You shoot a film there? Yeah.

37:25

Is it coming out or? Probably

37:27

early 26. Oh, yeah. Transformers stuff?

37:30

No, it's a movie I directed

37:32

called Preschool, but these two dads

37:34

who are fighting to get into

37:36

this last spot in the Super

37:39

Adventures. Yeah. Well, well, that's cool.

37:41

All right, all right, so, so,

37:43

Elon, okay. First of me, help

37:46

me understand. I will help you.

37:48

I will walk you through Eline.

37:50

I don't want to get canceled,

37:52

so don't get me in trouble,

37:55

Corolla. Okay, listen, I'm already canceled,

37:57

so I can see. All right.

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your homework. billionaire became a pejorative

39:43

like 10 minutes ago like every

39:45

time a Democrat politician goes on

39:47

stage ago these billionaires over there

39:50

like I thought that was a

39:52

good thing when I was coming

39:54

up yeah that meant the guy

39:56

did something right or he worked

39:59

hard certainly created a lot of

40:01

jobs but he bought X or

40:03

he bought Twitter right so Elon

40:05

I think was sitting around and

40:08

he was getting kind of bothered

40:10

by how the news was being

40:12

shaped and what was being called

40:14

fake news and all that kind

40:17

of stuff and there was a

40:19

lot of miss and disinformation being

40:21

pushed out there on COVID and

40:23

stuff like that. So he said

40:26

and a lot of people were

40:28

getting deplatform for saying shit that

40:30

turned out to be true about

40:32

something like COVID. So they kind

40:35

of controlled and you know without

40:37

getting too negative or political. The

40:39

Democrats kind of owned the news

40:41

and the platforms and the tech

40:44

platforms and late night and Hollywood

40:46

and just the general zeitgeist of

40:48

creative expression was sort of the

40:50

left. And there were lots of

40:53

cases where lots of cases where

40:55

lots of cases where lots of

40:57

cases where some doctor

41:00

would say something on Twitter or

41:02

Facebook or something like that and

41:04

get deplatform for no explanation even

41:06

though it turned out he turned

41:08

out to be accurate and things

41:10

like that so Elon bought Twitter

41:12

and and started saying if you're

41:15

a doctor's got an opinion about

41:17

COVID you're welcome to say it

41:19

on Twitter and they started not

41:21

liking him that because he started

41:23

in this free speech stuff and

41:25

they didn't like the free speech

41:28

even though they say they like

41:30

free speech what they're really saying

41:32

is is we would like to

41:34

control this and we want to

41:36

sort of home field advantage and

41:38

we will decide what's accurate speech

41:41

and he bought it And he

41:43

said no anyone can say anything

41:45

and so that's when they started

41:47

hating on him That's right and

41:49

then later he went over to

41:51

team Trump and they really started

41:54

hating him and then later he

41:56

got into doge and you know,

41:58

cleaning up the social security rolls

42:00

and all that kind of stuff

42:02

and they then they went. They

42:04

went ballistic on him. And then

42:07

some of it is just they're

42:09

in a feeding frenzy. Like if

42:11

you ever see sharks going to

42:13

a feeding frenzy, they will start

42:15

biting other sharks and stuff. They're

42:17

just going. Like at some point,

42:19

they're just there. You know what

42:22

I mean? Yeah. So, but I

42:24

mean, yeah, that is the natural

42:26

progression of it. You know. But

42:28

you've not had your car desecrated.

42:30

Not yet. But you've literally been

42:32

flipped off how many times? Oh

42:35

my God, daily, at least five

42:37

times a day. It's like true

42:39

hatred. There's like real venom. Mm-hmm.

42:41

I'm like, what? And I got

42:43

out of the car the other

42:45

day and I said, well, that

42:48

was rude. Mm-hmm. I'm just driving

42:50

this car. What is... I hate

42:52

everything that he stands for. I

42:54

was like, I'm just driving my

42:56

car. Yeah. My kid's in the

42:58

car. Wow. Do you want to

43:01

come over? Do you want to

43:03

come over and apologize? He just

43:05

asked me why you did that.

43:07

Come over the car. And she

43:09

wouldn't do it. And I said,

43:11

come on, just come over here

43:14

and so she did. And open

43:16

the door and he wasn't actually

43:18

there. restaurant that I go to.

43:20

It's just, it's, it's, it's, it's,

43:22

it's, it's, it's, and, and, and,

43:24

and, and, and, and, I find,

43:26

you know, I almost find it

43:29

amusing. I'm mostly interested in the

43:31

psychology, yes, like, me too. Why

43:33

are we so angry? Why are

43:35

we, like, I've just feel like,

43:37

Jane Goodall studying chimps with a

43:39

clipboard. Like at this point, I'm

43:42

literally just studying humanity and how

43:44

they're affected. And I always said

43:46

during COVID, I was like, I

43:48

didn't learn anything about infectious diseases,

43:50

but I learned a lot about

43:52

human behavior. And it was a

43:55

real case study to see how

43:57

everyone just immediately jumped in and

43:59

picked a team and took a

44:01

side. And you know, I also

44:03

realized that there's a symbolism that

44:05

these people respond to, which is

44:08

you go. What's wrong with putting

44:10

the American flag on my pickup

44:12

truck? And it's like, nothing's wrong

44:14

with it, except for you have

44:16

self-identified as a Republican or as

44:18

a Trump supporter, and now we

44:21

gotta go. kick in the fender

44:23

of your pickup truck. And so

44:25

there's interesting little tells and I

44:27

and and it was an interesting.

44:29

Why can't you just be an

44:31

American who just wants the best

44:34

for the country? See, I don't

44:36

care. I honestly don't care. I

44:38

voted Obama twice. Yeah, well, but

44:40

I couldn't, but I couldn't, but

44:42

and and and I was one

44:44

of those people that didn't like

44:46

try. I hated Trump in the

44:49

beginning and we were out. I

44:51

actually had a U. U. U.F.

44:53

C. C. fight fight. I hope

44:55

I don't get in trouble with

44:57

the story, but it's interesting because

44:59

this is my story. We're at

45:02

this U.S.C. fight. I've known Dana

45:04

White for years. And at the

45:06

time, it's during his first presidency,

45:08

I really didn't, I really didn't

45:10

like the guy with talk all

45:12

kinds of shit about him. Trump.

45:15

Yes. And he, we get a

45:17

call a couple of days before,

45:19

and it was, it was, the

45:21

U.F.C. officials asking for our Social

45:23

Security numbers because secret surface is

45:25

going to be there. I was

45:28

like, oh, what's this about? They

45:30

didn't tell us. Dana gave me

45:32

his seats. We're sitting right in

45:34

front. And about halfway through the

45:36

night, everybody starts, half the people

45:38

are booing, half the people are

45:41

screaming, cheering for him, and here

45:43

comes Trump walking through with all

45:45

those guys. And we're like, oh

45:47

my God, he's here. He comes

45:49

walking in. comes walking closer and

45:51

closer and comes in sits literally

45:53

right the seat behind me. And

45:56

I didn't turn around and shake

45:58

the man's hand. And my wife,

46:00

who was at the time my

46:02

girlfriend, was so mad at me,

46:04

she's like, you shake the man's

46:06

hand. He is the president of

46:09

the United States. And I'm like,

46:11

no, fuck this guy, I'm not

46:13

going to do it. Can we

46:15

siren the show? I don't know

46:17

if I can't. Sorry. I'm not

46:19

going to do it. And so

46:22

after and it turns out she

46:24

was right, you know, no matter

46:26

what, whether you're a Biden fan,

46:28

whether you're or not, I was

46:30

like, I should have shaken the

46:32

man's hand. He's the president of

46:35

the United States. And whether it's

46:37

Biden or Trump or whoever, I

46:39

think that there's got to be

46:41

some kind of respect for that.

46:43

And I think that was my

46:45

lesson in that moment. It's like

46:48

I didn't. I was too proud

46:50

to. shake the man's hand. And

46:52

I feel like, you know, the

46:54

lesson for me was the matter

46:56

who it is, you know, if

46:58

it's the leader of your country,

47:01

if you really love your country,

47:03

at least root for the best

47:05

for whatever, you know, if it's,

47:07

if it's, if it was Kamala,

47:09

I would have been, go, you

47:11

go. This is hope for the

47:13

best, you know, doesn't mean we

47:16

have to root for the country

47:18

to fail. And I feel like

47:20

there's a lot of that going

47:22

on. you know because essentially your

47:24

country is your team and the

47:26

president is the head coach yeah

47:29

and like I know guys are

47:31

like big USC football fans and

47:33

then they hire this guy is

47:35

the coach and the person's like

47:37

oh god why they go with

47:39

that guy that guy sucks why

47:42

didn't they hire this guy from

47:44

Michigan they should have he could

47:46

have turned the program around and

47:48

they're pissed off that they hired

47:50

the coach they don't like but

47:52

the second the kickoff for opening

47:55

season starts they're rooting for that

47:57

team to win because it's their

47:59

team. And they didn't like the

48:01

coach and it wasn't their choice

48:03

and if they had their druthers,

48:05

they wouldn't have had a contract

48:08

with that guy. But the season

48:10

has begun, this is their team,

48:12

and they root for their team.

48:14

And that's basically how people should

48:16

treat this country as their team.

48:18

I mean, it's the greatest country

48:21

in the world and I feel like

48:23

we have to remember that. you

48:25

know well I you know

48:27

there's a there's a new

48:29

paradigm which is a kind of

48:32

a hysteria and and also

48:34

if you are going to

48:36

look if that getting back

48:38

to the head coach it you

48:40

a USC metaphor but if

48:43

somebody convinced

48:45

you that guy was hit

48:47

Larian and a racist

48:49

and homophobic then you

48:52

probably wouldn't root root

48:54

for USC to win and then

48:56

I'd go but that's your team

48:58

right you go that guy hates

49:01

Jews and then you wouldn't root

49:03

for your team so I think

49:05

that's kind of what we're seeing

49:07

somebody has decided that him and

49:09

Elon and I wouldn't mess with

49:11

a guy in a Toyota Prius

49:13

but if I thought he voted

49:15

for Hitler then maybe I would

49:17

you know and that's the weird

49:19

hysteria that we're dealing with right

49:21

now. And it's in what it

49:23

what where do you think that

49:25

is that the media what

49:28

is that what's causing this

49:30

I mean mass sort of vitriol

49:33

there is the media does

49:35

push it forward but but

49:37

it needs foot soldiers you

49:39

know what I mean like

49:41

it was like I probably

49:43

during COVID They

49:46

had mask up, you know, don't

49:48

walk on the horse trail policy.

49:50

I didn't wear a mask and

49:52

I did walk on the horse

49:54

trail and it couldn't be enforced,

49:56

but it could be enforced by

49:58

citizens who passed you by and

50:00

told you to put your mask on.

50:03

Like none of this will work unless

50:05

the citizens get deputized to make it

50:07

work. So, you know, whatever they're saying

50:09

on CNN or whatever, they're coming out

50:12

of the Democratic Party, whatever they're saying

50:14

on MSNBC, wouldn't work if it just

50:16

fell on deaf ears. You have to

50:18

have a bunch of people with like

50:21

Trump's arrangement syndrome who were ingesting it

50:23

and then going out onto the road

50:25

and flipping you and flipping you. your

50:27

child who wasn't in the car off

50:30

he actually was he was he was

50:32

in the car one of them but

50:34

the what time I got out and

50:36

I said well that was rude what

50:38

was I pretended like he was in

50:41

the car but he actually I just

50:43

wanted to see what her reaction would

50:45

be uh-huh and it is it is

50:47

it is kind of interesting and I

50:50

think it's the I think the way

50:52

to do it is to almost be

50:54

inquisitive mm-hmm about it because I do

50:56

I had somebody talk shit about me

50:59

the other day on Twitter and like

51:01

he doesn't know shit about anything. I

51:03

was doing some blogs about Malibu fires

51:05

and stuff like that and they just

51:07

went he doesn't know shit and I

51:10

never will or stuff like I just

51:12

wrote back well I was I was

51:14

a carpenter for a lot of years

51:16

so I do know something something about

51:19

this stuff. I wasn't like fuck off.

51:21

I was just like I have things

51:23

that I know. I don't know why

51:25

why that. Why I can't own those

51:28

things. I do think that's a good

51:30

way to go about it. And I

51:32

was, first couple times it happened, I

51:34

was mad. Really mad. It's like, don't

51:37

just assume that I'm somebody just because

51:39

of this. And then I became really

51:41

curious about the psychology behind. Wow. And

51:43

I actually said to her, you're going

51:45

to get your ass kicked. You're lucky

51:48

I'm a nice guy. Somebody's going to

51:50

come out and beat you up. If

51:52

you continue just to flip people off

51:54

a willy-nilly like that, you know, and

51:57

I was like, it's not good to

51:59

be just doing that. You're not... You're

52:01

gonna end up, you'll flip it off

52:03

the wrong person, you know. Yeah, I

52:06

agree. And also, I don't know. I

52:08

always say, does it make you money?

52:10

Does it make you happy? If it's

52:12

not one of those two things, maybe

52:15

don't do it. Yeah. Because I don't

52:17

know, maybe she could argue made her

52:19

happy. I don't know, but it doesn't,

52:21

she doesn't feel happy. Yeah, very, very,

52:23

very, very unhappy. I do think a

52:26

lot of this is. A lot of

52:28

people are on medication, some SSRI stuff,

52:30

you know, pharmaceutical stuff, and they're just

52:32

not breaking a sweat and convening with

52:35

nature. You know, this doesn't come from

52:37

people who do a lot of ocean

52:39

kayaking and stuff like, like, you need

52:41

to get in the woods, you need

52:44

to build a cabin, like you need

52:46

to go fishing, like you, we're too,

52:48

too many energy drinks, too much time

52:50

on the phone. too much in the

52:52

city and too many medications. And it's

52:55

made for some sort of bulliobase of

52:57

sort of toxic whatever and everyone's brain

52:59

has turned a shit. People need to

53:01

get out and swing an axe and

53:04

take a tree down. We do a

53:06

lot of that out there. Where is

53:08

your cabin? Minnesota? Oh yeah? Yeah, I'd

53:10

love it. Deep in the woods. Are

53:13

you under that stuff? I can be.

53:15

I could come over there and fix

53:17

up your cabin. Yeah, we, I bought

53:19

this property like 15 years ago and

53:22

have just had the best time shaping

53:24

it. Got a tractor, got a skid

53:26

steer. Really? Clearing, clearing, you know. How

53:28

much land do you have? 54. 54

53:30

acres. Beautiful little lake, yeah. That's a

53:33

lot. It's been a lot of work,

53:35

but it's been great for the soul.

53:37

Oh my God. Just to get back

53:39

to the basics. I mean, for the

53:42

first, 10, 12, 12 years, 10, 10,

53:44

10, 11 years, 11 years, 11 years,

53:46

There's no like there was electricity in

53:48

one of the so I bought half

53:51

a parcel that I bought the other

53:53

half that had a little hunting shack

53:55

with no electricity or water. And then

53:57

the one up went up for sale

54:00

next to that with another little tiny

54:02

cabin right on the water with only

54:04

electricity. Neither one of them had water.

54:06

So we were washing our dishes in

54:08

the lake. We had the outhouses. I

54:11

mean it was muddy and dirty and

54:13

you know, it took us a long

54:15

time to get it to where it

54:17

is now, but it was, you know,

54:20

that to me has been my place

54:22

just to like clear my head to

54:24

get out of this craziness. Well, you

54:26

know, it strikes me. People need projects

54:29

man. They gotta be building something. You

54:31

gotta be building or making something. You

54:33

gotta be making something and it could

54:35

be a fort or tree house and

54:37

you could be restoring an old car

54:40

or it could be a cabin or

54:42

it could be a kitchen remod. Whatever

54:44

it is, but you need to be

54:46

engaged and people aren't engaged and they're

54:49

starting to float a little because they're

54:51

not grounded by this kind of engagement.

54:53

And we're at the point of life,

54:55

which is Somebody invented a

54:58

treadmill. And the reason they invented a

55:00

treadmill is because we're not walking to

55:02

the well anymore, the gourd on our

55:04

head and carrying water back to wherever

55:07

we're living. Like, it is simulating what

55:09

we used to do all day, every

55:11

day, you know? And people were saying,

55:14

and they weren't fat, because they walked

55:16

five miles a day or whatever. But

55:18

at some point, somebody went. Everyone's sedentary

55:20

and they're sitting in a booth and

55:23

they have air conditioning. So we will

55:25

invent a thing. This is essentially a

55:27

simulation of walking or jogging or whatever

55:30

and they can sit and watch sports

55:32

center while they're doing this thing. And

55:34

people understand it physically. Like they go,

55:36

well, yeah, you need to do this.

55:39

Otherwise, you can be sedentary, you're gonna

55:41

get fat, and it's not gonna work.

55:43

Well, there's a kind of emotional version

55:45

of that, that we have not simulated,

55:48

and we've left it alone. And I

55:50

don't think it's video games or online

55:52

porn. I don't think that's gonna cure

55:55

this. You need. To have a project

55:57

man and if everyone is a renter

55:59

and living in the middle of the

56:01

city and doesn't have an old pickup

56:04

truck to fix up or cabin to

56:06

build or kitchen add-on or whatever It's

56:08

going to be hard like you're going

56:10

to have to find the treadmill version

56:13

of a hobby of a project of

56:15

something because what you're seeing is the

56:17

manifestation of people's Brain sort of turning

56:20

on themselves. You got to think about

56:22

like when you really have a project

56:24

like when there's something to do everything

56:26

else gets kind of blocked out like

56:29

you get up early Saturday morning you

56:31

go I'm going to the home depot

56:33

you know like you're just there right

56:36

you're not walking up and down that

56:38

aisle thinking about Elon Musk or Trump

56:40

or Kamala or or your 401k or

56:42

anything you're just like where's the CDX

56:45

three-quarter ply you know it's all what

56:47

ails it in you know that's all

56:49

that's all you have that kind of

56:51

engagement that sort of pulls you out

56:54

of this world. Yeah, I totally agree

56:56

with that. I mean that was that

56:58

that what you just said is the

57:01

is is what has been my sanity

57:03

for the last 15 years going out

57:05

there having this thing that this year

57:07

every year I got a new project.

57:10

I got something I'm doing out there

57:12

to improve it you know whether it's

57:14

putting a well in at the top

57:16

cabin or you know cutting a trail

57:19

so I can get all the way

57:21

around to the east side of it,

57:23

you know, things like just basic mundane,

57:26

repetitive, physical, physical, that makes me feel

57:28

like I'm accomplishing something and I have

57:30

a tremendous amount of, this tremendous feeling

57:32

of accomplishment having started with this little

57:35

plot of land and now we've got

57:37

this beautiful thing that that the family

57:39

all comes to and my kids get

57:42

to get their hands dirty and an

57:44

experience what it's like to be out

57:46

there have them doing work for me

57:48

now you know it's like it's like

57:51

it's it's something that I've built I

57:53

feel like I can pass on. And

57:55

that has been, and I credit my

57:57

dad for that. He knew that I

58:00

wanted something and he went and found

58:02

this place. And I remember walking out,

58:04

driving off the first time was like,

58:07

oh my God, I was like, the

58:09

horse flies and mosquitoes were really bad

58:11

that year. And I was like, I

58:13

love it. I love it. You know,

58:16

and, you know, aside from the bugs

58:18

and the mosquitoes and the horse flies

58:20

out there, it's my little. piece of

58:22

heaven and it's become like the place

58:25

you know it's it's and it's about

58:27

the base about cutting have enough wood

58:29

to keep the you know for the

58:32

fire to keep us warm in the

58:34

winter it's about making sure we got

58:36

enough water do we have enough food

58:38

we're 40 miles from any store yeah

58:41

it's your treadmill yeah because you drive

58:43

a cyber truck and you live in

58:45

modern times you've created a treadmill called

58:47

a cabin in Minnesota yeah and that's

58:50

you're simulating life from it from a

58:52

different era essentially like you're simulating and

58:54

walk to the well on a treadmill

58:57

right and but it's great for your

58:59

sanity and another thing you touched on

59:01

that everyone needs is you need to

59:03

say to people like when people come

59:06

see it you know they go oh

59:08

man this is amazing what and you

59:10

go I cleared that trail last summer,

59:13

you know, and they go, I did

59:15

this and I put that in and

59:17

you know, what have you. Like when

59:19

I'm here, you know, you come in,

59:22

we're hanging around back there, you go,

59:24

oh, this is crazy, this is great

59:26

here. And I go, yeah, I bought

59:28

this thing 20 years ago, and then

59:31

I built the studio, you know, back

59:33

then, and then I built, and people

59:35

need that. We're in a digital world

59:38

now and I don't think the young

59:40

folks are getting that I made this,

59:42

I accomplishes. And then the question is,

59:44

because you're talking about your son, they

59:47

have more than one son? I'm an

59:49

11-year-old and a one-year-old. Oh, okay. Excellent

59:51

Shepherd. Well, the one, one-year-old, we can

59:53

wait on for a little bit before

59:56

I start passing along my sagely advice,

59:58

but the 11-year-old. Here's a question for

1:00:00

you. You said, you know, you worked

1:00:03

in warehouses, you work construction, like you

1:00:05

worked in that world, and now you

1:00:07

appreciate this world, because you had an

1:00:09

A to this B, you know, and

1:00:12

I had a serious... world of construction

1:00:14

and all that work for a long

1:00:16

time and then and now I have

1:00:19

this you know and then so when

1:00:21

people say oh they sold out the

1:00:23

first four shows in Naples you want

1:00:25

to add a third show on Saturday

1:00:28

I go yeah go ahead And then

1:00:30

someone will go, that's a lot of

1:00:32

work, and I'll go, no, it's not.

1:00:34

Standing on stage holding a beer is

1:00:37

not a lot of work. I'll tell

1:00:39

you what work is. And they go,

1:00:41

all right, shut up, we've heard this

1:00:44

fucking story. But I have an A,

1:00:46

and the B is air conditioning a

1:00:48

beer in a microphone, and that's not

1:00:50

work to me. But your son, my

1:00:53

son, they don't have the A, really.

1:00:55

I mean, they didn't know what it

1:00:57

was like to work in a work

1:00:59

in a work in construction or something.

1:01:02

Do you impose that on that? It's

1:01:04

a great question. It's one of my

1:01:06

you know It's one of the most

1:01:09

difficult things about You know raising kids

1:01:11

especially because you work you work to

1:01:13

provide for them and to give them

1:01:15

a life that you didn't have Well

1:01:18

sometimes you have to the life that

1:01:20

you came from is the reason why

1:01:22

you have what you have now because

1:01:25

you you knew that you had to

1:01:27

work your way out of and work

1:01:29

towards something and yeah so one of

1:01:31

the You know, most difficult things for

1:01:34

me to impart on my son, my

1:01:36

11-year-old is, you know, the struggles that

1:01:38

I had grown up, you know, where

1:01:40

I took him to where I, the

1:01:43

house I grew up in. Great parents,

1:01:45

but we just, you know, for a

1:01:47

lot of years we didn't have. What's

1:01:50

your dad do? He was, he owns

1:01:52

a, he owns a, he owns a,

1:01:54

He's retired now, but he owned a

1:01:56

company that, between Montana and North Dakota

1:01:59

and Minnesota, he would go to all

1:02:01

these little towns, sell advertising, that they

1:02:03

would put on the back of the

1:02:05

receipts. From the supermarket? Yeah, from the,

1:02:08

and so you get 10% off, it

1:02:10

raised, you know, dry cleaning. Wow. And

1:02:12

so he'd go around, sell these averages,

1:02:15

and he had his own little company,

1:02:17

he had a printer who would go

1:02:19

do it, and he made it, he

1:02:21

ended up making a really good living

1:02:24

good living, but what a niche, but

1:02:26

what a niche, profession

1:02:28

and he made you know he really

1:02:30

ended up doing pretty well and so

1:02:32

but we didn't have you know I

1:02:35

lived that was that was much later

1:02:37

as well after I was gone but

1:02:39

we're younger we really you know it

1:02:41

was it was tough after they got

1:02:44

divorced and you know my son well

1:02:46

my son Axel doesn't have those same

1:02:48

kind of he's a totally different world

1:02:50

he's got he's got more than I

1:02:52

ever had grown up so how do

1:02:55

you impart Those same lessons and when

1:02:57

they don't have the same circumstances. It's

1:02:59

a tough one. You know I used

1:03:01

to say to Dr Drew all the

1:03:03

time I go listen You have a

1:03:06

7,000 square foot house in Pasadena your

1:03:08

kids aren't gonna grow up They're gonna

1:03:10

grow up in that house, but then

1:03:12

they're moving into an apartment like they're

1:03:15

not gonna have what that They will

1:03:17

have it for a while How do

1:03:19

you know for me? I would say

1:03:21

Like my whole thing was I got

1:03:23

I got shouted down but I was

1:03:26

like I don't know I would tell

1:03:28

my son go get a job at

1:03:30

McDonald's and then everyone go why is

1:03:32

your son have to work at McDonald's

1:03:35

I go I worked at McDonald's I

1:03:37

go yeah that's you you're poor he

1:03:39

doesn't need to work and I go

1:03:41

doesn't need to but he'd get something

1:03:43

out of working at McDonald's you know

1:03:46

again it's like the simulation like the

1:03:48

treadmill he doesn't He didn't, he wouldn't

1:03:50

need a McDonald's paycheck. He did a

1:03:52

McDonald's experience. I need a McDonald's. He's

1:03:55

18 now. I needed, and he turned

1:03:57

out, I mean, he's fine. But there

1:03:59

isn't a fire in the belly, you

1:04:01

know what I mean? And I had

1:04:03

the same thing with my nephews, you

1:04:06

know, like, where's the fire? And it's

1:04:08

like, we've got a flat panel TV

1:04:10

and some air conditioning, we Uber and

1:04:12

stuff like that, you know, and there

1:04:14

isn't. And that's just recreated. It's not

1:04:17

something you just go, you can't go

1:04:19

create hardship. No, I know. It's like,

1:04:21

it's like, it's like. Stick on calluses

1:04:23

or something like you need to earn

1:04:26

those calluses. No Lee press on I'm

1:04:28

telling you I would work but that's

1:04:30

what is like you need to you

1:04:32

need to like the fighter with the

1:04:34

cauliflower ear you know what I mean

1:04:37

like hey man you got a you

1:04:39

got a grind to get to get

1:04:41

that so it's tough and I don't

1:04:43

know I mean the 11 year old

1:04:46

that's you and Furgies yes and how's

1:04:48

Furgie with that like because a lot

1:04:50

of here's a lot of it is

1:04:52

is is I went through this too.

1:04:54

I'm divorced now. But I was like,

1:04:57

listen, I understand what it takes to

1:04:59

do this. Now he's got to do

1:05:01

this. And then the wife's like, no,

1:05:03

leave alone, you know, he doesn't want

1:05:06

to, whatever. It's the women bail them

1:05:08

out a lot of the time. Yeah,

1:05:10

I think that's a mistake. We have

1:05:12

to. As much as you want to

1:05:14

protect and shelter them from all those

1:05:17

things, they're going to get their heartbroken.

1:05:19

They got to be broken. It's

1:05:21

a tough one because my natural

1:05:24

instinct too is to be like

1:05:26

oh here. Let me just do

1:05:28

it for you Yeah, and you

1:05:30

just can't do that they have

1:05:32

to struggle you know and and

1:05:34

my wife Audra is really good

1:05:36

at making him You know do

1:05:38

things she doesn't hold the same

1:05:40

sort of She's not as she

1:05:42

loves him dearly, but she's not

1:05:44

as precious. You know right and

1:05:46

and and she's got a better

1:05:48

perspective on it than we do

1:05:50

She's like listen you need to

1:05:52

get this kid doing this this

1:05:54

and this and this because he's

1:05:56

not Well, he needs to learn

1:05:58

these things and she's right. Yeah,

1:06:00

well, I mean, it's basically like

1:06:02

this. The kid wants to eat,

1:06:04

you know, pot. poptarts for breakfast

1:06:06

and then you go no you

1:06:08

need eggs in a and bacon

1:06:10

or whatever and they go I

1:06:12

want a poptart and the person

1:06:14

and then then the kid starts

1:06:16

crying and then the woman goes

1:06:18

give him poptarts and it's like

1:06:20

I'm not saying eggs over poptarts

1:06:22

because I'm mean I'm saying eggs

1:06:24

over poptarts because it's healthy and

1:06:26

he needs to learn how to

1:06:28

do this and be healthy so

1:06:30

it's it breaks into this weird

1:06:32

this weird thing where like I

1:06:34

used to I tried to implement

1:06:36

this thing because my son was

1:06:38

growing up in a zero gravity

1:06:40

environment so and I was like

1:06:42

I got to start and by

1:06:44

the way he's a great guy

1:06:46

he's good and everything's fine he'll

1:06:48

be fine but I mean it's

1:06:50

like he needs a little gravity

1:06:52

in his life you know and

1:06:55

so I came up with this

1:06:57

thing and I said look I

1:06:59

would take my cold plunge in

1:07:01

the freezing swimming pool every morning.

1:07:03

Every morning, up in the foothills,

1:07:05

especially during the winter, I just

1:07:07

go, I'm getting in that pool

1:07:09

every single morning, get in the

1:07:11

pool and swim to the deep

1:07:13

end, go underwater, to the shallow

1:07:15

end, go underwater, to the shallow

1:07:17

end. And it sucked. And I

1:07:19

didn't need to do it, but

1:07:21

I was like, I was imposing

1:07:23

a little shit on myself. Like

1:07:25

I was just putting a cigarette

1:07:27

out on my thigh and I

1:07:29

was just like, suck it up.

1:07:31

I didn't want to do it.

1:07:33

every single morning. Like I would

1:07:35

have flights out of LAX at

1:07:37

7 a.m. and I'd be up

1:07:39

at 5 a.m. and I'd just

1:07:41

go go to it. It's dark

1:07:43

outside. It takes two minutes. Just

1:07:45

go get in the fucking pool.

1:07:47

I just go throw myself in

1:07:49

the pool. So I said to

1:07:51

him, look, if I go out

1:07:53

on nights from lock and yada...

1:07:55

to Melrose or the comedy store

1:07:57

and Hollywood. And I perform for

1:07:59

free. Do a 15-minute set just

1:08:01

to try to get better at

1:08:03

my at my craft I want

1:08:05

to get better and I'll go

1:08:07

for free now on weekends I

1:08:09

get paid I go to out

1:08:11

of town I said on the

1:08:13

days I go perform for free

1:08:15

you need to get in that

1:08:17

pool Because I'm doing it. You

1:08:19

told your son this yeah, I

1:08:21

said I got enough money I

1:08:24

don't need to be driving into

1:08:26

Hollywood. I'm working over here. I'm

1:08:28

driving back to Lock and Yada.

1:08:30

The last thing I want to

1:08:32

do is leave at 8 o'clock

1:08:34

at night and go there and

1:08:36

not get paid, but I'm doing

1:08:38

it. I don't like doing it,

1:08:40

but I'm doing it, but I'm

1:08:42

doing it so I can get

1:08:44

better and something. And if I

1:08:46

do it a couple days a

1:08:48

week, I need you torturing him.

1:08:50

And then I was like I'm

1:08:52

trying to impose a thing that'll

1:08:54

be helpful later But she looked

1:08:56

at it as you know being

1:08:58

waterboarded and That's when I realized

1:09:00

there was a philosophical difference, but

1:09:02

I don't know is for me

1:09:04

on board with this mine? This

1:09:06

thought you have yeah, I mean

1:09:08

we have a really good sort

1:09:10

of working relationship and with co-parenting

1:09:12

our son. She you know, we

1:09:14

have different styles for sure But

1:09:17

she also knows that I'm a good

1:09:19

dad and his he's my number one

1:09:21

priority, you know, right? They're like that's

1:09:24

they're my number one priority and she

1:09:26

knows that even though we have different

1:09:28

ways of going about it. So Yeah,

1:09:30

I mean I could do a little

1:09:32

bit better, you know in that regard.

1:09:35

I'm learning how to do it. I

1:09:37

have still we know we have a

1:09:39

whole list of chores when he's out

1:09:41

there at the cabin with me. He's

1:09:44

out there helping me at least for

1:09:46

an hour or two. That's good. the

1:09:48

you know go tubing go get the

1:09:50

rope tied up to the thing get

1:09:52

it ready to go like just basic

1:09:55

things right he needs to like start

1:09:57

taking some day he's gonna be running

1:09:59

the place hopefully he needs to learn

1:10:01

start learning this stuff so she likes

1:10:03

that he is you know I'm making

1:10:06

him you know I'm giving him some

1:10:08

responsibility yeah you know and he needs

1:10:10

to I think that that's one thing

1:10:12

that that I didn't do a great

1:10:15

job of as he was you know

1:10:17

his first six or seven years um

1:10:19

but you know he's he's 11 years

1:10:21

old he's gonna be a man soon

1:10:23

he's needs to you know you need

1:10:26

there's a it's a tough world out

1:10:28

there he's got to be able to

1:10:30

be able to you know do the

1:10:32

basics at least and deal with a

1:10:34

little hardship. So, I don't know, we're

1:10:37

just, we're all new at this. Yeah,

1:10:39

first off, I, there is, I'm gonna

1:10:41

take some of the burden off you,

1:10:43

which is, we don't need to think

1:10:46

about or talk about or invest nearly

1:10:48

as much as we do, because I

1:10:50

had this weird conversation once. I don't

1:10:52

know what I was, I was with

1:10:54

them. Oh, I'll think of it in

1:10:57

a second. I, okay. My parents had,

1:10:59

I don't know, zero to three conversations

1:11:01

about me and my sister. Like, they

1:11:03

just lived our life. We lived our

1:11:05

life. You were kids. Kids were kids.

1:11:08

That was it. You know, you just

1:11:10

hold you. I was born in 64.

1:11:12

So I got a lot of take

1:11:14

it outside. Yeah. So it was basically

1:11:17

you'd come into the house. I go,

1:11:19

what are you doing? I go, stop

1:11:21

playing. Stop at the horseplay, take it

1:11:23

outside and just leave. There wasn't a

1:11:25

lot of planning as to our future

1:11:28

and that kind of stuff. So I

1:11:30

think sometimes as a parent we get

1:11:32

up in our head and we're like,

1:11:34

I gotta do more. I gotta set

1:11:36

this example. I gotta do that example.

1:11:39

You know, who's gonna take care of

1:11:41

them? When I'm gone and it's like

1:11:43

in the answers, they'll take care of

1:11:45

them. Yeah. Just like you take care

1:11:48

of you. Now. You know what I

1:11:50

mean? Yeah. And I don't think you're

1:11:52

doing them any favors when you go,

1:11:54

like, you gotta buy them an apartment

1:11:56

building, so they have some rental income.

1:11:59

It's like, I think... They need to

1:12:01

go out and figure out what they're

1:12:03

doing and earn it. Yeah. And own

1:12:05

it. You're right. It's just not an

1:12:07

easy thing to, it makes you feel

1:12:10

better if you know that they're going

1:12:12

to be safe, but the truth is

1:12:14

you're not doing them any favors by

1:12:16

doing that. No, I mean, you don't

1:12:19

give them a raid on poisoning at

1:12:21

the house, maybe put a helmet on

1:12:23

before they get on the zipper scooter

1:12:25

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I'd watch a whole die-hard

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trilogy with that. It's weird,

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he can't get near some

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lines and the other ones

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he just nailed. I'd watch

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a whole die-hard trilogy with

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that. You think it's funny,

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I forgot it's funny, I

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forgot a whole die-hard trilogy

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with that. You think it's

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funny, I forgot, but I

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put Ozzy in a movie

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called The Hammer. And he

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just played himself, but he

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was the star of the

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movie. And Pete Berg, who's

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done every action Friday Night

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Lights and everything, was in

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here. And he saw the

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hammer years ago, and he

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said, that guy who played

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on him. I remember him,

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baby, he's amazing. Who is

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that actor? I was like,

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that's Ozzy. That's just a

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dude. How did you cast

1:21:23

him? I was a cast

1:21:25

him. We built... Apartments together

1:21:27

when we're in like 20

1:21:29

and 30. The whole movie

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is built around him. Yeah.

1:21:33

All right, what do you

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got? So you know what?

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First up, we got some

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science news. The sci-fi fairy

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tale of de extinction may

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become a reality. Colossile laboratories,

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the ominous name, and biosciences,

1:21:48

have revived dire wolves from

1:21:50

extinction. It's like a wolf,

1:21:52

but bigger and woolly. Oh,

1:21:54

and this is a footage

1:21:56

right here. Yeah, apparently

1:21:58

these little pups like twice the

1:22:00

size of a full-grown wolf only

1:22:03

in six months. All right well

1:22:05

first things first okay I want

1:22:07

to say this about movie plots

1:22:10

and themes when you do Jurassic

1:22:12

Park and you go wait a

1:22:15

minute how where are these dinosaurs

1:22:17

coming from and they go well

1:22:19

They're mosquitoes who stung them 10

1:22:22

billion years ago and they're they're

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encased in amber now. Hey Mr.

1:22:26

D&A, where D&A come from? From

1:22:29

your blood. That's right. Okay. And

1:22:31

then I as a viewer, I

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say to myself, okay, I'm in.

1:22:36

It's feasible enough. I couldn't do

1:22:38

it, but I could imagine a

1:22:40

world where one day it was

1:22:43

done. Suspend that disbelief. But then

1:22:45

there's movies where it's like, these

1:22:47

two guys switch personalities. What happened?

1:22:50

Well, they were peeing into the

1:22:52

same fountain when lightning hit the

1:22:55

fountain. And I go, how does

1:22:57

that make them switch personalities? And

1:22:59

they go, no, no. See, and

1:23:02

liar, liar, yeah? Jim Kerry's son,

1:23:04

yeah? He wished at his birthday

1:23:06

party, his sixth birthday. He wished

1:23:09

that Jim Kerry would stop lying.

1:23:11

And I go, okay. And you

1:23:13

wish your dad would stop throwing

1:23:16

beer bottles at you, right? Did

1:23:18

it work? No. No, I wish

1:23:20

my dad made some fucking money

1:23:23

and we could go out to

1:23:25

eat every once in a while.

1:23:27

But did it work? No. Now,

1:23:30

so what I need is something

1:23:32

more than a six-year-old wishing before

1:23:35

he blows out a candle on

1:23:37

a birthday cake or two dudes

1:23:39

pissing into a fountain at the

1:23:42

same time when lightning strikes. I

1:23:44

need some DNA in the blood.

1:23:46

This is science fact. There are

1:23:49

gene editing technology called CRISPR enabled

1:23:51

the scientists to re-edit the genes

1:23:53

of gray wolves to live today.

1:23:56

They created the closest living. relative.

1:23:58

So they just reorganized their DNA

1:24:00

and out comes a dire wolf.

1:24:03

So this is going to lead

1:24:05

to things that we can anticipate.

1:24:07

To be honest, there's already things

1:24:10

like, CRISPR has been used to

1:24:12

make cats glow in the dark.

1:24:15

Oh really? Yes, it's already getting

1:24:17

weird out there, Corolla. I'm telling

1:24:19

you. Well, okay, but here's where

1:24:22

it's really going. It's really, first

1:24:24

off. Every piece of technology always

1:24:26

ends up in porn. Oh yeah.

1:24:29

It's always porn. Genetically engineered. It

1:24:31

all starts off as great. Like

1:24:33

the internet starts off as you

1:24:36

could do your taxes over the

1:24:38

over the computer or something and

1:24:40

then it's always porn. Everything ends

1:24:43

up being porn. All roads lead

1:24:45

to porn. At some point, like

1:24:47

300 years from now, you're gonna

1:24:50

go, well, Taylor Swift never did

1:24:52

any porn, did she? Well she

1:24:55

didn't. We got some of her

1:24:57

DNA. And we're going to build

1:24:59

Taylor Swift and she's going to

1:25:02

do porn. And now there's legalities.

1:25:04

Does the estate of Taylor Swift

1:25:06

get money? from her porn doppelganger?

1:25:09

I'm just asking if Adam Corolla

1:25:11

clone who's pushing his dick around

1:25:13

in a shopping cart gets the

1:25:16

banger. That's what I'm saying. I'm

1:25:18

saying like then they start charging

1:25:20

to lay down with Taylor Swift.

1:25:23

Damn. You're right. Now there was

1:25:25

a story and I've told you

1:25:27

guys a million years ago that

1:25:30

a guy like a rancher had

1:25:32

a prized long... Longhorn steer. Yeah,

1:25:35

and had some euphemistic name like

1:25:37

Lucky or something and the University

1:25:39

of Austin or something cloned it.

1:25:42

It was like the first cloned

1:25:44

steer and you can look it

1:25:46

up Jesse the first cloned it's

1:25:49

a cloned steer spin. 15, 20

1:25:51

years, but it's like a clone

1:25:53

longhorn and the guy who's a

1:25:56

beloved longhorn owner who died but

1:25:58

the but the sorry the steer

1:26:00

died but then he got his

1:26:03

clone steer and he's like reunited

1:26:05

with his clone steer but the

1:26:07

thing was evil. I was going

1:26:10

to say did you have a

1:26:12

mustache? It was like Hasselhoff. Oh

1:26:15

no. Night rider when this evil

1:26:17

twin drives a semi truck. The

1:26:19

rancher in Texas, yeah, he cloned

1:26:22

his prize Texas Longhorn Steer named

1:26:24

Watson, who had the longest horns

1:26:26

of any Longhorn in the world.

1:26:29

What was the clone's name? Sherlock?

1:26:31

Yes, that's good. That's good. After

1:26:33

he was castrated, the breeder saw

1:26:36

the potential. Anyway, the thing gored

1:26:38

him. Kick the fuck out of

1:26:40

you other people, because he was

1:26:43

cloned, but he wasn't the same.

1:26:45

Cruel to his defeat. Yeah, there's

1:26:47

a whole story you guys gonna

1:26:50

look it up, but it doesn't

1:26:52

always work out You're used to

1:26:55

Watson you go ahead and pet

1:26:57

a snout all the time and

1:26:59

then you walk up on Sherlock

1:27:02

and he fucked you up. Well,

1:27:04

that's what I'm saying like I

1:27:06

got my dog Phil He's the

1:27:09

greatest he's a big dude. He's

1:27:11

the lover and if someone cloned

1:27:13

him I'd walk up and go

1:27:16

Phil and he's biting him That's

1:27:18

what that's what happens. So it's

1:27:20

what happens. So it's not all

1:27:23

like Taylor Swift could punch you

1:27:25

in punch you in the cock

1:27:27

when you're going to lay down

1:27:30

with her we don't know there'd

1:27:32

be the same as this one

1:27:35

yeah all right so it's it's

1:27:37

on I mean we're we're we're

1:27:39

heading to Jurassic Park we're here

1:27:42

so it's like a million years

1:27:44

ago in the Dick Tracy cartoon

1:27:46

like the commissioner we're calling it

1:27:49

hit his watch and he'd see

1:27:51

a picture of the commissioner go

1:27:53

commissioner and you go oh no

1:27:56

come on that's never it's here

1:27:58

here yeah so we're here yeah

1:28:00

so we're going to be here

1:28:03

So my son's son will get

1:28:05

to have sex with Taylor Swift

1:28:07

exactly yeah, or whoever three way

1:28:10

with two-headed Sabrina Carpenter. Ooh. I

1:28:12

can do it. Me too. Moving

1:28:15

on, Bill Maher says he doesn't

1:28:17

hate Trump and says he's one

1:28:19

of the most effective politicians. Yeah,

1:28:22

on Sunday's episode of Club Random

1:28:24

podcast, Mar said, here we go.

1:28:26

Trump really interested is one of

1:28:29

the most effective politicians, whether whatever

1:28:31

you think of the policy and

1:28:33

him as a person, just as

1:28:36

a politician, just understanding. that always

1:28:38

lean in to being more who

1:28:40

you are. The people are not

1:28:43

savvy about issues, but they smell

1:28:45

a phony a mile away. And

1:28:47

that kind of shit, nobody else

1:28:50

does it. You know, there's a

1:28:52

couple of times when, I mean,

1:28:55

I've been as big as critic

1:28:57

for good reason. And when he

1:28:59

got reelected, I said, I'm not

1:29:02

going to pre-hate anything. And then

1:29:04

the first week I said, Well,

1:29:06

there's lots of things I hate

1:29:09

because I do. Okay, there's some

1:29:11

things I don't hate also, but

1:29:13

the way he can do that

1:29:16

and sometimes kind of make me

1:29:18

go, oh man, I gotta give

1:29:20

it up. Like when he did

1:29:23

that thing where the guy came

1:29:25

in from the Taliban and he

1:29:27

said, this is an aerial picture

1:29:30

of your house. If during a

1:29:32

withdrawal one American is hurt, Just

1:29:35

know I know where you live.

1:29:37

I was like oh, can we

1:29:39

just play the music now? I

1:29:42

don't care. It's not on Trump

1:29:44

and he's the worst person ever

1:29:46

blah blah blah I Fucking love

1:29:49

that One time they were doing

1:29:51

something something was going on with

1:29:53

and he said you know what

1:29:56

when you come after New York?

1:29:58

You gotta go through me. It's

1:30:00

like oh hometown boy. You know

1:30:03

he has those moments that no

1:30:05

other politician has And the Democrats

1:30:07

have to find that guy. Yeah,

1:30:10

they're... in the current democratic roster,

1:30:12

they're not going to find that

1:30:15

guy. Because it's kind of an

1:30:17

interesting, there's an inauthenticity to these

1:30:19

guys, and it's kind of insane.

1:30:22

I don't know, there's a, I

1:30:24

liked a Tim. Waltz. There's a

1:30:26

Tim Waltz tweet that I liked

1:30:29

from last night, which is which

1:30:31

is kind of interesting because I

1:30:33

they They do there's He's kind

1:30:36

of the problem with them which

1:30:38

is doing a simulation of a

1:30:40

person but not actually being that

1:30:43

person like Caltown to the weakest

1:30:45

of the week and Pulling everybody's

1:30:47

level down to that level seems

1:30:50

like Yeah, trying to come across

1:30:52

as a dude. There's nothing worse

1:30:55

than a weird dude trying to

1:30:57

come across as a regular dude.

1:30:59

That never works. It's sort of

1:31:02

like a nerd goes and buys

1:31:04

cowboy boots. So he thinks it's

1:31:06

going to do them up and

1:31:09

then you see a guy walking

1:31:11

weird in cowboy boots and now

1:31:13

you take notice and you go,

1:31:16

it's worse than fucking sneakers. You're

1:31:18

not helping your cause by attempting

1:31:20

to do this simulation. of a

1:31:23

dude but he gave this speech

1:31:25

yeah here it is it's so

1:31:27

weird it's uncanny to me but

1:31:30

it means though I think it

1:31:32

means the audience thinks you think

1:31:35

the audience is stupid and maybe

1:31:37

they are it's this bizarre approach

1:31:39

with who's paying taxes which by

1:31:42

the way it's been going on

1:31:44

for a long time I told

1:31:46

you guys my mom said to

1:31:49

me Eight years ago, she's like,

1:31:51

but rich people don't pay taxes.

1:31:53

I go, fuck we don't. You

1:31:56

don't pay taxes. I pay shit

1:31:58

loading taxes. I've cut the gun.

1:32:00

a check for $2 million. Don't

1:32:03

tell me I don't pay taxes.

1:32:05

I pay taxes. Rich people pay

1:32:07

taxes. Now, they look for ways

1:32:10

to pay less taxes. But

1:32:12

that's what people do when

1:32:14

the government wants a check

1:32:17

for $2 million. They try

1:32:19

to get it down to 1.7. But

1:32:21

listen to his assessment of... rich

1:32:24

people and the relationship with taxes and

1:32:26

god do i wish he was correct

1:32:28

i wish he was right here we

1:32:31

go i think democrats supporting

1:32:33

families supporting the working class supporting

1:32:35

unions but i think we have

1:32:37

to separate and have a message here

1:32:40

it's okay in america to

1:32:42

be successful we should celebrate

1:32:44

that when people are successful

1:32:46

what might be fears what

1:32:48

my beef is once you

1:32:50

get successful don't be a

1:32:52

greedy bastard not pay your

1:32:54

taxes don't do that Pay

1:32:56

your tax and do that.

1:32:58

And let those. Hold on

1:33:00

for a second. The audience,

1:33:02

a smattering of applause for

1:33:04

work hard, be successful, start

1:33:06

a business. That's like a

1:33:08

polite golf. Like, right. Pay

1:33:11

your taxes, greedy bastard.