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we're taping this but you've been to a lot

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of different places what has this whole

3:46

process been like for you in the days leading

3:48

up to this upcoming NFL draft I mean it's

3:50

been awesome honestly I mean like you said it

3:53

can be taxing I guess there's a lot of

3:55

traveling a lot of workouts and doing that stuff

3:57

and but at the same time you get to

3:59

talk to some of the best offensive-minded coaches in

4:01

the game. That's the biggest thing. I mean, you

4:04

learn every single time you're on a visit, every

4:06

single time you're on a workout, and that's, I

4:08

mean, that's just what you really enjoy about it.

4:10

You bring up learning from some of the best

4:12

offensive minds in the game. I want to take

4:15

you through your itinerary, so to speak, and I

4:17

don't have the exact order, but we know the

4:19

places. What stood out about them? Definitely, Coach Reid

4:21

and this what he's done, especially with Don McNab

4:24

and guys that have been great quarterbacks. What kind

4:26

of guy was he? He was an awesome guy.

4:28

He was a guy that's funny, about the same

4:30

time as serious, but he got his point across,

4:32

but he still enjoyed the time with him. He's

4:35

very well liked amongst his players. If you're not

4:37

going to Kansas City, you'll be a happy guy.

4:39

What about the Cleveland Browns? I mean, it honestly

4:41

was awesome. A little cold when I went there,

4:44

it was good to see what the cold was

4:46

like at the same time. I mean, he had

4:48

me, Coach Jackson, I mean, you could tell the

4:50

guys love him and I kind of like Coach

4:52

Reid, I mean, he's a guy that everyone just

4:55

loves in the locker room. Your mom would not

4:57

be real happy if you went to Cleveland, right?

4:59

My mom, my mom, my mom wants the warm

5:01

weather, but I told her if we get in

5:04

the cold, I'll get her a lot of guys.

5:06

a great stadium at the facility in the stadium

5:08

and everything like that and uh... just getting to

5:10

meet those coaches seeing coach coughlin uh... i mean

5:13

he he's a guy who's super serious you can

5:15

tell you like that guy's on super bowl and

5:17

he i mean he's a great coach i mean

5:19

it was a cool experience you get nervous when

5:21

you see somebody like coach coughlin he was the

5:24

only one i for this whole process i got

5:26

nervous seeing the only one Tom Coughlin yeah how

5:28

come i don't know when he was talking to

5:30

me he was talking to me just he was

5:33

he was look serious he was look serious he

5:35

was look serious he was look serious and uh...

5:37

looks serious and uh... looks serious and uh... looks

5:39

serious and uh... look serious and uh... look serious

5:41

and uh... look serious and uh... look serious and

5:44

uh... I mean you just you knew and you

5:46

heard stories I mean this stuff like that but

5:48

at the same time I thought I dealt with

5:50

it well. How about the Baltimore Ravens on your

5:53

visit there? Oh yeah it was cool I mean

5:55

just getting to see that that facility right. there

5:57

is top-notch for sure. Isn't that beautiful and always

5:59

smells? Yeah exactly and I just it's beautiful out

6:02

in the hills and I mean it was cool

6:04

just getting to see all those guys and I'm

6:06

just a great organization it is. Meet with anybody

6:08

there that stood out in particular? I mean I

6:10

got to meet with a meet with a meet

6:13

with the Pittsburgh Steelers. What was that visit like?

6:15

It was awesome I just just getting in there

6:17

and seeing their stuffs, talking to a comblin and

6:19

I got to actually meet Ben Rolfusberger and I

6:22

mean he's one of the guys that I tried

6:24

to ball my game like so just seeing him

6:26

was pretty cool. That must be kind of odd

6:28

because here's this young pup quarterback that's coming into

6:30

the building that they're looking at to potentially Take

6:33

his job one day. Yeah, I mean, it's just

6:35

how football is though. I mean, even in that

6:37

quarterback room, even I've been in rooms where you

6:39

get to compete for jobs. I mean, no matter,

6:42

you still love the guys in there, you still

6:44

compete with them and try to make each other

6:46

better. So seeing him, I know he would, I

6:48

mean, I'd say he would, I know he would,

6:50

I mean, I'd say, make each other better. So

6:53

seeing him, I know he would, I know he

6:55

would make him, I know he would make each

6:57

other, I know, I know, make each other, make

6:59

each other, make each other, make each other, and

7:02

try to make each other, make each other, make

7:04

each other, and try, make each other, make each

7:06

other, make each other, make each other, and try,

7:08

make each other, make each other, and try, I

7:11

know, make each other, make each other, make each

7:13

other, make each other, make each other, make each

7:15

other No one, he won Super Bowls and he'll

7:17

be a Hall of Fame quarterback, it was awesome.

7:19

So have you enjoyed this whole process? I really

7:22

have. I mean, just honestly, just getting the talk

7:24

football every single day and work out and, I

7:26

mean, get your body the best shape you've been

7:28

in ever. I mean, it's something that, this is

7:31

the reason you play football is the dream to

7:33

be here, get to this NFL draft and hopefully

7:35

get picked high as you can be. I know

7:37

that it's hard to answer this question, in all

7:39

the places that you have, that you'll wind up

7:42

in one of these places more so than another

7:44

place? Honestly, not really. I mean, it's at the

7:46

point where you tell a lot of teams like

7:48

me, but at the same time, I mean, they

7:51

all like you. They all seem like they love

7:53

you, and they're not going to show what they

7:55

have. They're not going to show their hand, I

7:57

guess you would say. and they're going to try

7:59

to get you where they want you and they

8:02

don't want a lot of people to know exactly

8:04

what what how much they love you how much

8:06

attention have you paid to the other quarterbacks in

8:08

your draft class because there are a lot of

8:11

people who say there could be four quarterbacks who

8:13

go in the first round how familiar are you

8:15

With the other quarterbacks here, Mitchell Trebisci and DeShan

8:17

Kaiser and DeShan Watson, Watson. Oh yeah, DeShan Watson

8:20

probably the most. I went to a camp with

8:22

him called the QB Summit and so I met

8:24

him there. Jordan Palmer ran it and then I

8:26

got to see him again through the training process.

8:28

So I've met him a couple times at the

8:31

Manning Camp as well. But yeah, and Kaiser and

8:33

Trebiscia, those guys have just as much potential as

8:35

all of this. I mean, we're all guys that

8:37

I feel like this QB class that I feel

8:40

like this QB class gets under. I kind of

8:42

want us all to do good to kind of

8:44

prove everybody wrong. So you're rude for all these

8:46

guys. Yeah, that's what it is. I mean, I

8:48

think Mitch, me and Mitch, talked about it at

8:51

the combine. Everybody downs this class and says we're

8:53

not... day one starters we're not guys that are

8:55

going to be great NFL quarterbacks and so if

8:57

all those do become those quarterbacks we can kind

9:00

of prove everybody wrong. Do you have their cell

9:02

phone numbers you text these guys encouragement and support

9:04

along their interview process way? Not as much with

9:06

the shot not with Kaiser and Trebiski but I've

9:09

talked to Des shot a little bit and I've

9:11

seen him actually on some visits and stuff like

9:13

that so I mean he's a cool guy and

9:15

we have we have a little bit of a

9:17

relationship where we can talk back and forth. We

9:20

can talk back and forth. You saw him on

9:22

visits. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

9:24

I don't want to say, just I don't know

9:26

what he's, how he wants to release his information

9:29

and I don't like that, but I saw him

9:31

on one of my visits, yeah. So that, and

9:33

do you have any idea that you were going

9:35

to run into at the time? No, I had

9:37

no idea at all. And if you were a

9:40

scout, how would you assess the Sean Watson's game?

9:42

The one thing I love about the Sean Watson,

9:44

and the thing that I think is, he's going

9:46

to give you, and so I feel like... I

9:49

feel like I can do a lot of stuff,

9:51

a lot of talented stuff, but if I can

9:53

get that consistency with my game, then I'll be

9:55

one of the best in the league. Patrick, you

9:57

brought up the Manning Passing Academy. You had a

10:00

chance to meet Peyton I assume. Yes sir. What

10:02

do you take away from meeting Peyton Manning and

10:04

what do you learn from him? The biggest thing

10:06

I'll forever remember is how he watches film. How

10:09

detailed he is, how much he watches on himself,

10:11

that's the biggest thing I will remember from everything.

10:13

There's all awesome stories he tells and all the

10:15

hard work he does and all that stuff, but...

10:18

the amount of time he spends in that film

10:20

room and how he watches it, it's something I

10:22

will take for the rest of my career. Has

10:24

that changed the way that you watch film of

10:26

yourself? Oh, no doubt. He talked about how he

10:29

watches more film on himself than he watches on

10:31

the other team. And for me, that was crazy.

10:33

I was on the other team. And for me,

10:35

that was crazy. I was just on the other

10:38

team. And for me, that was crazy. I was

10:40

on the other team and gets, finds out, finds

10:42

out stuff about them, I mean, I mean, I

10:44

mean, I mean, I mean. really took my game

10:46

to a new level this last year trying to

10:49

fix my mechanics and fix things I do. What

10:51

do you pick up when you watch yourself this

10:53

year? Yeah, I mean there's sometimes I make throws,

10:55

I force throws that I shouldn't make and I

10:58

try to take those out of my game as

11:00

well as instead of going for deep balls sometimes,

11:02

just take that five-yard hitch and move on to

11:04

the next play and that's stuff that I need

11:06

to work on to keep getting better at as

11:09

my career goes. I got to this question. There's

11:11

not many people have done that. What does it

11:13

feel like? Yeah, I mean it's it's I mean

11:15

it's pretty awesome I mean at the time I

11:18

wish we'd have won that'd have been a lot

11:20

better But uh yeah, I didn't realize I had

11:22

that many yards at all. I honestly had no

11:24

idea sometimes you can kind of know you're throwing

11:27

for a lot But that game I was just

11:29

trying to score to keep up with them and

11:31

they had a great offensive team as well and

11:33

uh I was like What are you talking about?

11:35

And so I had one more drive and I

11:38

ended up throwing up over 734 and 88 to

11:40

10 or something crazy. I never had any close

11:42

to that many tips other than that. And they

11:44

told you the numbers after the game? Yeah, I

11:47

told me before the last drive for the game

11:49

and I had no idea until then. I knew

11:51

I had like around 300 at halftime, but I

11:53

did not know it was like that. question you're

11:55

the combine and your body fat weighs in it's

11:58

17.6% Yes. Now you look like you're an in-shape

12:00

kind of guy to me. Yeah, I know, and

12:02

I think it, I honestly, like, just being honest

12:04

with you, at Exos, I've gotten to 12% body

12:07

fats. I don't know if just a body, it's

12:09

different ways of doing it, the environment, the environment,

12:11

everything like that, but I went from, I was

12:13

17, like the environment, everything like that, but I

12:16

went from, I was 17% when I got the

12:18

12, I thought, but, but I don't know, we,

12:20

we, we'll see, we'll see, I'm like, I'm like,

12:22

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm

12:24

like, I'm like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

12:27

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

12:29

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

12:31

like, like, like, like, like, I mean I'm not

12:33

going to say anything like that but I just

12:36

know when I was at Exos and all that

12:38

stuff it was 12% so and we did the

12:40

all that different stuff we did the combine and

12:42

it said 12 and I got 17 at the

12:44

combine. So what is the eating weakness for you

12:47

then? Because maybe there's something that you succumbed to

12:49

here in the train. Yeah no, probably for me

12:51

as I was trying to lose weight because I

12:53

was at that 17% when I got there and

12:56

I was at 2.30 and I wanted to get

12:58

down to get down the 12. I actually wanted

13:00

to get down to 12%. I wanted to get

13:02

to 225 and still gain muscle. And so I

13:04

had a lot of healthy stuff, but I had

13:07

to try to cut out Chipotle a lot. And

13:09

that was pretty hard. That hurt me a lot.

13:11

What's the Chipotle ordering there? I got the bowl

13:13

now. I got the double steak, half and half

13:16

on the beans, white rice, cheddar cheese. I mean,

13:18

it makes me feel good in my mind. And

13:20

that's the big deal, right? Now at the combine,

13:22

you did run a 4.08 in the 20-Earth shuttle.

13:25

That was the best of any quarterback. Yes, sir.

13:27

How do you explain your quickness in that particular

13:29

drill? Yeah, I don't know, honestly. I just knew

13:31

from the first day we started running and I

13:33

was running four 1-9s and stuff like that when

13:36

we just started excess of real pepper. and all

13:38

those other guys, Michael Rector, and all those guys

13:40

that I train with, I'm going to beat y'all

13:42

at the combine. And so that was my one

13:45

thing. I knew I was going to be slow

13:47

in the 40, but I thought the pro Julia,

13:49

I was going to give them after them at.

13:51

Now I know everybody's spoken about your father and

13:53

his baseball career and the upbringing that you had

13:56

in some of the people that you got to

13:58

surround yourself with. What was you like to take

14:00

ground balls with Derek Jeter? Oh yeah, I mean,

14:02

it's awesome. I mean, at the time I thought

14:05

it was a normal thing, but I mean, now

14:07

I look back at it and I mean, it

14:09

was awesome just to be out there on that

14:11

field. I was at every BP before ever again,

14:13

I'm out there on the field, a short stopper,

14:16

and now I feel diving for balls and it's

14:18

just something I got to experience as a child

14:20

as well as just getting a seed. All those

14:22

athletes and how hard they work, I mean that's

14:25

helping me out a ton in this process. And

14:27

A-rod too, or something with him? Yeah, actually I

14:29

would hit in the badding cages with A-rod a

14:31

few times, every season. I mean, my dad, he

14:34

played with my dad on the Rangers, and so

14:36

he would take me down there and just let

14:38

me hit off the T with him a little

14:40

bit, I mean, he would take me down there

14:42

and just let me hit off the T with

14:45

a little bit with him a little bit, and

14:47

I mean, I mean, and just let me hit

14:49

off the T with him, and I mean, and

14:51

just let me hit off the T with the

14:54

T with the T with him, and I mean,

14:56

and I'm with him, and I'm with him, I'm

14:58

with him, and I'm with him, and I'm with

15:00

him, I'm with him, I'm with him, I'm with

15:02

him, and just let me, just let me, just

15:05

let me, just let me, I He gave me

15:07

a little bit of advice on my swing, but

15:09

at the same time, I kind of modeled my

15:11

swing after his, so I was kind of the

15:14

front foot hitter a little bit. I still had

15:16

some power, but I like to hit the ball

15:18

the other way and stuff like that, like kind

15:20

of like he was. What do you learn from

15:22

your dad about being a professional athlete? Definitely just

15:25

learn how you have to kind of cut some

15:27

things out. You can't do all the same stuff

15:29

all your friends want to do. You got to

15:31

focus on your goals on your goals and what

15:34

you're trying to get on your goals and what

15:36

you're trying to get to get to be a

15:38

great. What are your hopes now as you get

15:40

ready to embark upon your NFL career about how

15:43

soon you might be able to play and contribute?

15:45

I mean, yeah, as a competitor, you want to

15:47

play as soon as possible. You want to be

15:49

in the game and you think you can go

15:51

out and be the best quarterback in the league

15:54

the moment you step up there and the facility.

15:56

But knowing that I need to have stuff to

15:58

work on and stuff like that, I'm just hoping

16:00

within probably the first... first few years I'm starting

16:03

and I have a chance to be up behind

16:05

a team and hopefully get a chance to go

16:07

to Super Bowl and do those things and I

16:09

mean it's something I'm still work and whenever I

16:11

get my opportunity I'm gonna be ready to go.

16:14

I'll go back to baseball a second.

16:16

How close did you come to pursuing

16:18

your own baseball career? Not very close

16:20

to you come to pursuing your own

16:22

baseball career? Not very close. After your

16:24

own baseball career. I thought I was

16:26

going to be a baseball player. be

16:28

baseball players and you can get the

16:31

money now you can go have a

16:33

baseball career it's easier on your body

16:35

and everything like that I was like

16:37

I want to play football I love

16:39

this game too much to not play.

16:41

Where are you offered about 1.8 million

16:43

dollars or so? Yeah so I didn't

16:45

really get offered it but they told

16:47

they that when you go to the

16:50

baseball process they ask you how much

16:52

money would you would it take you

16:54

to not go play college football pretty

16:56

much and I was like No, I'm

16:58

gonna go play college football. And

17:00

that was it. And you've never wavered

17:02

on that, because I think you have

17:04

a baseball in 2016? Yeah, I played for

17:07

Texas Tech. I didn't really play, but I

17:09

was there. And yeah, I mean, I was

17:11

competing for the starting job with Davis Web,

17:13

so I had to be at football all

17:16

the time. And I had to be at

17:18

football, so I had to be in the

17:20

same draft class now with Davis Web once

17:23

again. I mean, it's awesome. He transferred,

17:25

we both would know we were both going

17:27

to be drafted at quarterback. I mean he

17:29

has the arm, he has the talent and

17:31

he works hard enough. I mean it's cool

17:33

just to see how our quarterback room with

17:35

me Baker and then David, I mean me

17:38

Baker was in it. Baker Mayfield and Davis

17:40

Webb. Now is there any chance and I don't

17:42

mean to bring up any negative thoughts if

17:44

the football career didn't work out that you

17:46

pull a Tibo, go back to baseball one

17:48

day. I haven't thought about it at all. I mean,

17:50

I'm hoping that I'm hoping that football works out long

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enough where I don't have to do that, but I

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mean, I haven't picked up a baseball in a while,

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so it would be a tough little transition to go

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back to baseball. to constitute a successful NFL

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career for you Patrick? Successful career for me,

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you'd have to be winning the Super Bowl.

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I put up a ton of stats, a

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Texas Tech, and Delaware itself, but I always

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win the Big 12 championship. So for me,

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as a starting quarterback would be, as a

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starting quarterback, would be, as a starting quarterback,

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would be, as a starting quarterback, would be

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the successful in a football career. And it

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was tough to win in college for your

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team. There's a lot of great offenses. All

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my job is going out there as square

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as much as I can to motivate that

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defense against some stops and we lost four

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scores, four games by one score or less

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and it's just something we got fine ways

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to win. So you are now as we

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tape this getting ready to head out to

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the New York Jets complex to go meet

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with the Jets, you're going to meet with

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the Seattle Seahawks still in the Chicago Bears.

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You will not be in Philadelphia the night

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of the draft. What are your plans? to

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celebrate that particular night? Yeah, so I'm gonna

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have a, I think we have a restaurant

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set up, I'm not sure exactly if it's

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100% set right now, but we have a

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lot of my family members and some of

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my friends, some of my coaches that I've

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grown up with, and we're gonna just kind

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of sit around and watch TV and just

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kind of sit around and watch TV and

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just maybe cook out before and watch the

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draft, hopefully I get drafted on the first

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night, and we'll have that party and we'll.

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I've thought about it a little bit and

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it's hard to think. I mean, it's going

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to mean a lot of nervous and then

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whenever the drought get actually drafted, it'll be

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excited. It'll be something that I'm just excited

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to be there and have this opportunity. Patrick,

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congratulations. Enjoy that night. Good luck with how

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it turns out. And as we talked about,

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more important about where you go in the

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actual draft. Yes, sir. Thanks, Patrick. Thank you.

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So how funny is that, that we actually

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talked about the idea. that he would go

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to candidacy. Patrick Holmes talked about the idea

19:45

of winning a Super Bowl. He didn't mention

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plural Super Bowls as he should have, so

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that was incorrect. Patrick gone on

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to has have one

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of the legendary NFL

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careers and we thought

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it would be fun

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to thought it would be fun to

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Mahomes young Patrick years ago

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in April April 2017 when he

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when he visited Bristol

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as part of a

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special Super Bowl 59 podcast. Thank you

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Thank you for tuning special

20:16

podcast. Enjoy and we'll Bowl

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59 and we'll be

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back in this spot

20:22

next week with the

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regular Adam Shepter podcast.

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then, have a great

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week. great the enjoy the game.