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today at oh
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hello
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under welcome to the first few episodes
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, were really think the celebrate the
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amelia amelia year
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anniversary of you can
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hear that i'm not in the soundproof
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horn cut off from under which i which
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records even first today i'm
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on the i'm metro the
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breezes about five
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years ago this is where
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i spent the is of
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my time with
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come to paris and
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talk to get was as of
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business english which might sound
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head and seat let me assure
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you it really wasn't i was on
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sale for zero hours contracts paid
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minimum wage and spent most of my time
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on the metro zigzagging across
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and city from one or two accounts and
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i even thousand meeting to learn
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english for the next
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home these many underground derby recruitment
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outnumbering kuwait and in this is
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he in the city in the spoke
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about
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topic wondering
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about all the different decisions in my mind's
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the things that maybe i would
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do differently if i could stop
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a company exists
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said
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have had such a service
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i need to do i get out
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now to same metro's
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on moments
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so i'm on my way to surmount
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they pay i'm with you one of the places
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where i used to teach or in an office
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just opposite a grand cafe cold
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lead to my goal but
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, continue the story from leader
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muggle the next time for now
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we've
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an anniversary episodes
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you gave all access really
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raining
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over the put com for an episode
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and come up with
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company her everything you hear is
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created
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by julia mores or was and
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allen bargain enjoy
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hi using
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the amelia projects i
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probably should plan what i'm going to say before he
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preferred
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they've tried again
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horton
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hello please stop on
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youtube he said
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hi you've reached the amelia project
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assessed , you have this number means you know
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who we are and what we do if
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you're interested we're
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the right
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on
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a regular way i can just at it this
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thing so i don't know like start over successful
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you've reached the emilio
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project if you have this
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number you know who we are unlikely
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to
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thank you so much for coming in janet
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your story was absolutely riveting
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i look forward to your disappearance
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the loo
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what a day
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what every day you get to me to real life holy
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shit to you how did you get in here
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others headphones is
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that a microphone are you recording
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this moyes
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are you
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talking to me have you been sitting there
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all this time you can see
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me these interviews or private
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to know nobody is allowed to
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record these sessions apart from amelia employees
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what's going on turn around so
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i can see your face turn around
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why would a fully since you you
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as i mean you you hear you you real
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what are you talking about of course i'm
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real right
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oh okay and turn
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that thing off to atone
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what of
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the microphone know the
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lamp to your list them and
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it's a little bright and here and i prefer to set
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the mood a little differently of
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course the microphone you nincompoop
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turn it off
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yeah yeah okay okay sure
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know who are you and
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what are you doing in my office
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speak up i can't hear you are
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you trying to be funny look
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i don't know what game you're playing but i suggest
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you stop mouthy once
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your microphone back on
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now say something
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something
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interesting
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this is nuts i'd
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like to perform a little experiment if
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you don't mind best no
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oh no oh no ahead brief this for
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me would you the khumbu
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just start anywhere and don't stop reading
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until i say stop well i
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mean i i don't really speak french
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but i can try you
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, i used to a little and
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i dip into it from time to time but all
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right never mind i'm
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here we are this john
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locke
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open it had any pace and begin reading
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okay only do
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you ninety four
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the
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no my guess thank you
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i am and whosoever
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the mind perceives in itself
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dot or understand the
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power to produce any idea and our
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mind i thank you that's enough
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of doom most
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peculiar you
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can say that again who
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are you you don't
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know should i and
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i dunno maybe not at
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i don't know how this works how
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what works this
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being here with you mean though
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, it's quite simple really
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you tell me your story and i decide
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another client you're not
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no
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the who are you than what ,
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going on here here
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i'm unless and i must be overworked be
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the i'm exhausted said that that's it i
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just need to get some sleep you've been having
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difficulty sleeping but no no
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no difficulty said difficulty
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just don't get enough of it a have you tried
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palmer napping i swear by
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it nominating yeah i've tried
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that puts to be honest i find it
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easier to work through him wait until nighttime
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to sleep a bit of a workhorse
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i you and yeah
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sometimes i mean it depends
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on what i have on
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like to keep busy
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yeah actually i do and
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i mean sometimes mean sometimes like i'm chasing my tail
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a little but i prefer to be
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busy yeah not
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much fun to be around and i'm bored truth
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be told if i know exactly what
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you mean boredom is
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the root of all evil
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you know who said that you got
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i know here
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the know
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alright just
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you're looking at me rather funny the
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story is it's just this has to be
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a dream why robots
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the other explanation for what for
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this you this conversation
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you don't think you should be you well
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know i mean i mean at should
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definitely be here i mean if you're
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here i'm here rights i mean obviously
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okay and yet being
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here is causing you noticeable distress
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yet talking to you is causing
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me considerable distress i'm sorry
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but did you come to see me yeah
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i guess but but i i didn't mean
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to i mean it was an accident
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said accident mistake if you believe in
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that kind of thing mistakes
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do you know funny people come
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to my office yes i do
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well then you obviously have a story
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to tell otherwise you wouldn't
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be here
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would you
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so you're
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here now so
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the only your story come
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on this is ridiculous
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forces this can't be happening
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i'm it as it did pippin moist i write
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this so what isn't
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never mind and you
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know
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sooner or later you're going to have to tell me
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who you are the boy
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a i'm i'm not
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entirely sure it's it's difficult
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to put my finger on but something about you was more
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than vaguely familiar you
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don't say something in your mannerisms
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the tune of your voice
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are you an actor
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i swear i've seen you somewhere before your
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and yeah yes i'm an
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actor oh i knew i'd
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seen your face
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oh heard your voice at least
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i mean
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little fuzzy but yes
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i know you from sunday
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what did you say your name was
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the
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then want
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bergen
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nope nope nope that's not ringing
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any bells have completed
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the national
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no unfortunately
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the old vic young vic i'm
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afraid know but you played summer
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in london
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the i played in the barbican
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really what show
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there's a production of peer gynt ibsen
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i love ibsen
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me too where you peer
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no i was in the ensemble
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playing multiple parts there
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was a brilliant production the it was a coup
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production between the dundee rent theater and the national
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theatre of scotland what year whose
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hands that would have been two
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thousand two thousand i think yep
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no i didn't see that one
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what else do you do i do a bit
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assume
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than a little bit of television around
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, theater company in vienna with some friendly
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don't watch much film or television
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and the last time i was in vienna i
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don't think you would have been around so
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it can't be that
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what else do you do podcasts
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oh that must be it yes
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, do listen to the old podcast known
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then i find them wonderful
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for alleviating boredom that
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they are podcasts
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do you do oh well
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i'm locking on
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the secret of st kilda don't know that
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check it out
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right over
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what else then there's
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the podcast that brought me into
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the world of podcasting in the first place
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though
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yeah
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the five year anniversary actually grant
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relations thank you has it been
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successful hugely successful
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i mean in my opinion anyway i
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never thought when we first started doing it that it grew
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into what it has done
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though it's been well received yes
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and to what to do you have success
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oh great
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writing great team
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everything video i mean it's
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, so much fun to do and
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i think that everyone working everyone it really loves
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it and has fun doing it i
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suppose anything that you pull yourself
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and to complete the is going to become successful
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i couldn't agree more the
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end you mentioned the writing do
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you write it yourself no i
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mean everything one or two small
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bits of bonus material but i'm
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not one of the writers the
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convoy stand do that
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that it
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at the same to you mentioned earlier and
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did i am not sure
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so
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am who me
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the about your role in this podcast
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who do you play well
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i play the m
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a will use a he's
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a collector
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what oh stories
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the
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i see
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and you enjoy
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playing this character i loved
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the he really is a wonderful character doubly
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though
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well first
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of all the simple act of playing
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the same character for five years means that
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i've got to know him so well i
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put him on so to speak
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almost every day so he's
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always with me the
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be nice it is and
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how has your relationship grown over the
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last five years with the and the
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character the
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character
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his
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though i'm
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well he's really become
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a part of me i
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mean i remember the beginning we
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didn't really know what he should sound like so
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we tested out a bunch of different voices
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and characters that
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if i'm being honest i kind of
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had his voice in my head from the moment i read
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the first episode the trying
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out was more to
16:34
why things out really
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that voice i had in my head ended
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up being the one we all went for so it
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is kind of lakes he
16:43
chose his own voice really that
16:47
i find a lot with characters to be honest
16:49
that the voice kind of comes up
16:51
off the page
16:53
and skill to have as an actor
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yeah
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i guess it is and did his
16:58
voice change over the years earlier
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the i actually wish sometimes that i could go back
17:03
and redo his voice and some of the earlier episodes
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you know when i listen to them bank it it's still
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him but compared to the rain
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she has no he's definitely
17:13
evolved from those first episodes
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with
17:16
totally natural i suppose
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so you knew from the first episode
17:22
that you wanted to play him
17:23
i remember being given the first three episodes
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to reads and you know i'm usually
17:28
quite a reserved reader but
17:30
by about page three of his laughing
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out loud it's a comedy
17:36
well see someone was definitely a comedy
17:38
and comedy is still a huge part of the show
17:42
but , also delved into some more
17:44
gritty stuff somewhere serious
17:46
stuff and some of it has
17:48
been really tender and sentimental but
17:50
in a good way
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and the character you play is
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he funny he's hilarious i
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found him hilarious from page one of
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the first step i [unk]
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and he still makes you love
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all the time that's nice
18:08
this year the
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of ridiculous character
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well
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he's definitely ridiculous
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a lot of the time but
18:18
he's also very genuine at times
18:21
he knows how to talk to people
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and how to get them to open up no
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you're kind of guy you feel you could tell just
18:30
about anything to and he wouldn't judge you the
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more i get to know him the
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more i fall in love with him
18:38
the has a big
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when he's a lucky character
18:44
the have an actor portraying him who think so
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highly of him and the lucky
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one
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paying him is probably the most rewarding
18:52
part have ever played
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the
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how so
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what's the current to grow
18:59
the delve deeper and deeper into what makes him
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take it into his life his
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backstory he
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truly is a fascinating going
19:09
not to mention the response from listeners
19:12
from listener aren't work to cause play
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on tic toc eminent some believable
19:17
cosplay on tic toc that
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some kind of game one place on the timer
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no no it's not
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oh but i love where your brain goes
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you do yes
19:30
no tic toc is a
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social media platform apart
19:36
something on the googly the
19:42
world moves so fast nowadays give
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me a mug of cocoa and cocoa good book any day
19:48
now events and inspiring and it's what
19:50
is you sitting
19:52
with a mug of cocoa and a good book
19:55
you find i do it
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inspires me
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well
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i'm glad
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you know it's very curious what
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is
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you
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sitting there with headphones
20:10
on talking into
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a microphone do
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you always talked through
20:18
a microphone
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no
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you know cynical
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once wrote
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look
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that's what happens when preparation
20:31
meets opportunity
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i think this meeting tonight was extremely
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lucky
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i do too
20:42
well it's a little unorthodox
20:44
considering we didn't come up with a new life for you
20:48
but somehow this wouldn't feel right
20:50
without a glass of juice kiko sounds
20:53
lovely right
20:55
well here we go oh
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, boy never even offered
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you any you and , sophie
21:04
this time of night glass of champagne
21:06
will do nicely he's here
21:13
we ever meet like this again i
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honestly don't know
21:18
in another five years
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perhaps
21:22
the heck
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look cleverer than you that home
21:30
the is
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i am
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used to you and you
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meet you the epilogue face
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the credit the , was
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written and performed by julia most
21:57
our island bug in the
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you are looking at home by alan
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burden
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he was on the design
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, and as pedersen we
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will be back with another anniversary
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special next friday and
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in the weeks leading up to that starting on
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monday the fifteenth of august if
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cocos [unk] collapsed twenty twenty two
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poker collapse now in collapse second
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yeah is second hearn run online
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event of amelia an old
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creativity
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even hurts the people collapse on
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twitter or com block the find a
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plum plus there's a problem for every
22:44
day of the week and you can create
22:46
art and fit
22:50
anything else that pops into your mind last year
22:53
we even had origami and
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a solid when , post operations
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on twitter tumblr instagram
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be sure to use the hashtag cocoa
23:02
club and we will share
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that hashtag [unk] poker collapse of the o
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c o a c o l l
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a d s the browse the ot
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who share something of your own
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own can also see most of last year's contributions
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on our web page you can go to amelia
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podcast dot com and then navigate to
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the fan of fan ah
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thanks to the cocoa coordinators who are
23:25
running this year's event and
23:28
now the epilogue
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hi everyone this is always doing so
23:37
creator of the amelia projects right
23:40
, i'm sitting in the sun and a lovely
23:42
part in the middle of also there's
23:45
a water display here there are people sitting
23:47
an outdoor cafes and cafes is an outdoor
23:50
cafe right behind me here is ah
23:52
here see where admits that admits dick button arm composer
23:55
and sound director for the very first sentence
23:57
and around the corner from the square is
23:59
need to studios will be recorded quite
24:02
a lot of cool against pets for the miller projects
24:04
and some other stuff but
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five years ago i
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had never been into the building or any to studiosus
24:12
building had never been to this outdoor cafe in fact cafe have never
24:14
ever met said the bomb i
24:17
was working as a theater director and working was struggling
24:20
and make was name for myself in norwegian say it's after
24:23
coming back from directing studies
24:25
in london and and living abroad for and while living
24:29
missed my international friends and colleagues
24:31
and missed especially missed making css
24:34
with my best friend philip
24:37
i try to organize festival events to bring
24:39
people to norway but that takes a lot of time
24:41
the money and you don't always get the funding you want
24:44
i needed
24:46
the other clean the project
24:50
the same time had this since i've
24:52
always loved writing that for
24:55
, last few years before this i'd focus
24:57
so much i'm directing a kind of gotten about writing
24:59
and and i missed it because
25:02
i don't just want to tell other people's
25:05
stories i want stories tell my own store but
25:09
breaking through as a playwright is that even
25:11
more difficult than bringing through as a direct access
25:14
because how do you get the stuff you right produce
25:17
then i have this
25:19
idea sought after finishing
25:21
drama school i had was on the audio drama
25:23
production foreign policy which
25:25
was a lot of fun
25:26
what happened
25:28
created something for audio was
25:31
just another way we could collaborate again
25:35
i decided to hope it right
25:38
away but
25:40
a continuation of the story soon into the second
25:42
part of our anniversary special which stops
25:44
in a week in the meantime enjoy the sun
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and make yourself and
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okay
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the table and hauling network we're
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fiction producers flair
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