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We're coming to you from Dallas the Jake

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Paul Mike Tyson pre Fight

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show with the Art of Smoke,

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Art of War meets All the Smoke with

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our brother andre Ward and Roy

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Jones Legends.

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Jack. This shit is dope, man, I'm fired up.

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Man, you already told me what you ate today.

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Yeah, we're here Massive

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Fight Week, Massive Fight Week. But before we get

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to that, Roy, we want to welcome me to

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the All the Smoke Fight family.

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Man.

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I'm happy because I've been holding this ship in if I

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don't know how long I'm trying.

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To brag on people. Yep, it's done. Roy

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and Andre how y'all like that? Come on,

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man, don't get no better.

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Before we get going, we got to hand you guys some some

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some welcome to the family gifts where those

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at they come on rang on the side, and

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you know, it's like it's.

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Like chaining day. On

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my side, it's like chaining day.

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I want to take it out show how

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live we coming, especially when we got the Ledgers

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coming, We've.

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Got got the Dicky.

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Ya this is

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you know, yeah, well

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All the Smoke Fight worldwide, that's what we're

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taking. I like, yeah, this

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for you and my brother.

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Yeah, man, welcome to the family. Tremendous

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honor obviously you know, to the best to ever do it.

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And to think how fast this this fight

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part of all the Smoke has matured.

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Uh, it's been amazing, Dre.

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You were obviously the first and and kind of

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the person we wanted to lead the charge in this space

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and tell the fans real quick before we get

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going, what you kind of

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envision for all the smoke fight?

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Man, I think, uh, it's

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basically what they're seeing right now, real

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raw conversations with athletes

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entertainers, basically what y'all are

1:54

doing, just more combat centric

1:57

on the fight side. But you

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know, it's an opportunity, man, for people who are

2:03

very guarded around the media, rightfully.

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So you know, you gotta.

2:06

Choose your words, you know, correctly as an athlete

2:08

because it's a lot of you know a lot of games and stuff that the

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media plays.

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It's a safe space here.

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And and really the way I approach the game

2:15

with the interviewing people and trying to get to know who

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they are, I'm genuinely curious, right And

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I think that's also one thing that I didn't really appreciate

2:22

about media members is that they

2:25

would come and assume that they know what

2:27

your answer is gonna be like, well you feel this way, right,

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And I'm like, nah, that's not how I feel. So

2:32

I genuinely come with curiosity. And I think

2:34

that that's just been a good a good foundation man

2:36

for people to open up men and just keep it

2:38

a hundred.

2:39

It feels good to control your own narrative, you

2:41

know what I'm saying. I think that's what that's something that we brought big

2:43

to the space. But what we had you on the show, I've had

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you you almost all the smoke and fight times. I was

2:47

honored to have you on fight times, and we talked about

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a lot of stuff. We briefly talked about you being with the

2:51

family. So now you're here now, but how you feel

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about being with the family and how you

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how exciting is this weekend?

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Mike, Tyson and Jack.

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Paul feel great about being with the Familing Man because,

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like I said, I love anything outside of the norm

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and this is outside of the norms. That's what

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I was. My whole life is built from being outside

3:08

and then it's outside of normans what I love.

3:10

So that's good.

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And you know, the fights we can't. It's exciting.

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It's like it's up and

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down. You don't want to see nothing happened to Mike.

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Like you said, you don't want to see him hurt Jake. But

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Jake is in a position where he can shake back.

3:24

He's young enough to shake back. Mike is somehow

3:27

the mic. We don't know what might have so I

3:29

do understand everybody's concerns. However,

3:33

me norm boxing, I

3:35

think Mike can take care of himself.

3:38

Wenna, we're gonna get into that, but I have a question

3:40

for both of you guys, being Hall

3:42

of famers in your sport. I think when Jake

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first stepped in the ring, I think perspectives have changed

3:47

on how this is, how he's serious

3:49

he's taking it. You know, for guys that have done

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it, I heard a lot at the beginning they didn't respect

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it. I'm not talking for you guys. I'm just talking about what what the

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what the vibe was. And I think over time, as

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he has shown how hard he's working, how serious

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he's taken, I think the perception of a

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lot of just people who didn't box have changed. What

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are your guys' thoughts on how serious he's kind of taken

4:07

this and and and and really made it.

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His central focus.

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I don't knock the hustle, you know, And I see

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where he started from on YouTube and you

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know, trying to make a name for himself. That's not I'm

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not familiar with that. That's not how I came up. But I

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respect it. You know what I've seen somebody had a vision

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for his life, him and his brother Logan,

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and they made they created

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this and they were able to take the fan base

4:28

and bring it over the box. And don't get mad because

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his fan base.

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Came over here.

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That's a big fan base, too, big huge fan

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base.

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And in terms of the boxing piece, I

4:36

know, the guys that are in his camp, he got real boxing

4:38

people in his camp, so he getting

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the black eyes get you know, he going through what fighters

4:43

go through to try to perfect their craft. Now,

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you got a long way to go on the technical side. We

4:48

came up from the crib with this, so we got

4:50

a different you know, flow with how we fight.

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So he started late, so you know,

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he got a long way to go in terms of that. But but

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I don't knock an event like this.

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It just is what it is.

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And he event it's not like a you know, a

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championship boxing match. It's an event.

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People are coming out to see it. He's making

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money, his opponents are making money. So

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I respect it and I don't knock it,

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man, though I know a lot of people do.

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What was your first reaction when you heard that this

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is gonna be a real fight and that's going on both of their records?

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Man, I think I think with Ja I wasn't surprised

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because what's happening is.

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Not to go down this rabbit hole. But we're talking about commissions

5:25

and sanctioning bodies. They're

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gonna go with the money.

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Yet, right? Million for this

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fight?

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Right?

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Is that true? What part I

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heard Michael was getting twenty years getting forty?

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Is that true?

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I've seen them numbers. I don't understand him.

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I asked Royd about it on the way over here.

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Well, I'm gonna said, it's what I what I would think

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because it on Netflix, right, but Neftflix

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probably did the analytics see

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what he got, his fust followers, what he got

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probably paid.

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Him on That's

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what Jack is for. Jake

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bringing all this with

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your name, it helped bring it up, don't get it wrong,

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But without him bringing this would

6:06

this he even be happy?

6:07

Right, you feel me?

6:08

So it's like he almost the cash count

6:10

in the situation because he

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bites. That's what it is.

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But when he first started without what I was saying,

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and people said, like you said, people would

6:19

knock it, I said, why would you knock that?

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What he's basically doing.

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Is if you're a kid that really can box

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and grew a boxing like we did, go

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get find out what he did. Go

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follow that model. Now you don't have

6:32

to have a promoter. You can become

6:34

your own promoter with social media. Look

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what he did and he and he really

6:39

skillfully is not a boxer like that.

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You know what I'm saying.

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These kids like me and Drake grew up box

6:45

you understand me, said they can actually box, so.

6:47

He could take him almost an independent route, like similar

6:49

to what artists do.

6:50

He opened it up for him. All you gotta do

6:52

is go follow follow the blue blueprint and dad

6:54

is but I'm.

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Gonna keep a hundred though, like the

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dedication I see and here that Jake

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has and that.

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In some cases it's more than some cats.

7:03

That some boxes don't have.

7:05

Exactly like you got the pedigree,

7:08

you got the potential to you.

7:09

It ain't no limit to what you could do where

7:11

you at. Bruh Man, I ain't trying to last.

7:13

Two three weeks. Don't have to work it.

7:15

On Bruh And that's the other thing I

7:17

like about him because when he dived in, he

7:19

dove all the way in. Right, he got to wait, you

7:22

got to wake. He even got some of the small part of that.

7:24

That's probably before I thought he's

7:26

here.

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A fight like this, Jake Paul, Mike Tyson? Does

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this excite you just as it would if

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it was you fight Tyson? Are you fighting

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one of one of the A list fighters? Is it the same excitement?

7:36

No, not at all.

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I just understand what it is. It's an event.

7:39

Yeah, it's entertainment.

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It's entertainment. But I you know, just

7:43

like any other fight.

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I go in there with an excitement to see a

7:46

fight because that, you know, that's all I've been seeing and knowing my

7:48

whole life.

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But at the same time, it ain't no guarantees

7:52

that everybody gonna come out the same. But that's

7:54

not just with this fight. That's what any fight. You can have

7:56

two cats twenty five years old.

7:58

And in the back of my mind, I know, like man, this could

8:00

go left, you know, and I talk about

8:02

this a lot. How you know, going to

8:04

my fight, you know, you you're the man, even fighter.

8:07

You go through the back, just like y'all walk through as the players when

8:09

you go to an arena. And it always

8:11

got real when I saw that EMT and

8:13

that guarantee sitting out there as I walked in that arena,

8:16

and I would always look and.

8:17

Say, bro, you don't take care of your business so

8:20

that that hopefully it don't happen, but that's a

8:23

possibility. But that's what every fight. So

8:25

I see it as entertainment.

8:27

You hope for a good show, something that you could look at and say,

8:29

man, that was a good fight, that was a good event, and

8:31

you hope everybody go home safe.

8:32

So it's not. But you can't.

8:34

You can't conjure up the

8:36

butterflies and the goosebumps that you feel

8:38

with two elite guys right risking everything.

8:41

You can't. You can't fake that.

8:43

I'm not gonna lie.

8:43

I still got a little bit of butterflies though, just because

8:45

it's Mike, you know what I mean. I understand

8:47

it's entertainment, but still, you know, we

8:50

grew up on Mike. You mean my parents used to

8:52

fight because my dad would buy the forty nine, forty four

8:54

ninety nine paper view and that shit would be over and they

8:57

would really fight, like my parents would really go at

8:59

it, like wast all that money.

9:01

Yeah, man, you know what I mean.

9:03

It's still Mike still has that aura about

9:05

him after all this time.

9:07

But go ahead, man, I just he he hasn't fought.

9:09

But you're saying that, but he hasn't fought in twenty years besides

9:11

fought and Roy and fight you Roy.

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What's your take on?

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My take is, though as good as he got

9:16

for me, I think he's gonna get even better for Jake

9:19

because he got pretty good for me.

9:21

I ain't gonna lot to you. Like I said, it was hard to hit him.

9:23

I was surprised that it was that hard to hit him.

9:25

He really shocked me with that.

9:26

So and I knew he's gonna be as powerful,

9:28

so I wouldn't I wouldn't surprised by the power, but I

9:31

was surprised by a defense. So defensively,

9:34

I think he's pretty good. I can't see him

9:36

going out there and just trading

9:38

with Jake right away. But at the

9:40

same time, I think he wins that if they do trade

9:42

right away, because he can take it and he can get

9:44

it. We don't know that Jake can take it.

9:46

Is that one of the highest anticipations about this fight

9:48

seeing Jake take one of those hard hards punches.

9:50

For me, it is, yeah, the

9:53

head, it is because Mike still got that

9:55

power. Roy talking about it when they felt getting

9:58

a fight like that. Yet nah, not by no, they like

10:00

Mike ty and And that's why I say.

10:02

See it's

10:05

here and here you hate to you

10:07

don't want to never pissed for nobody to paray you

10:10

feel me because it's a beautiful thing.

10:12

But I

10:14

know he's different now he's a little bit older. But

10:17

you don't just come out there and talk

10:19

stupid the mic taste, you know what

10:22

I mean.

10:22

That's still mikey Wait,

10:24

hey, that's Mike Tyler was less.

10:26

You know something you feel you don't cut

10:28

that talk even on the street. You

10:30

see what happened to get on the airplane.

10:32

You don't talk to the mic. And that's

10:36

not try on that. But

10:38

I'm just trying to take you there. You gotta

10:40

note you're talking.

10:41

At the mic.

10:41

You gotta truthfully be ready to depend yourself.

10:44

I'm talking about with you, Jake, you never box. You put

10:46

your pistol box your box.

10:48

Ain't gonna say you feel I'm

10:52

models me a little bit too.

10:53

Is his speed in here? I mean his speed and

10:55

his movement.

10:56

He hasn't seen that on top of you said, I mean he's still

10:58

He said, what do you say.

10:59

Like a horse punt?

11:00

Feel like kicking in my guy?

11:02

Damn?

11:02

I don't want to if you said wow, but

11:05

I knew it, so I don't. I don't like I

11:07

said.

11:07

I like. I like Jake for what

11:09

he's done. I like the improvement he's made in.

11:11

Boxing, right, but he knows still

11:13

only four years?

11:14

Right, he knows four years and make up for twenty

11:16

five man for a lifetime, you feel me.

11:18

I want to ask both of you guys this question.

11:20

D you first put yourself, both of yours

11:22

still big in corners and still big in the gym.

11:24

If you was Jake's training, what would you

11:27

be.

11:27

Telling the box be

11:29

smart job jab jab?

11:30

Yeah, Because the thing is, if I'm the trainer,

11:33

I'm part of my strategy

11:35

is being being as old as

11:37

he is, being fifty eight.

11:38

That's part of my strategy.

11:40

Right, What's working in Mike's favor, is

11:42

it two minute rounds instead of three minute round So

11:45

the first two three round we ain't trying to prove them, bro, we

11:48

were trying to box, survive, try to

11:50

win these rounds. You gotta win the rounds though.

11:52

You gotta get some respect though, you know you

11:54

want to every now and again you gotta take

11:56

off on Mike two three times to go back to boxing.

11:59

But around that six round and

12:01

Jake said, you want to do this, we're gonna test Mike.

12:04

So it's like, you want to be smart, but you

12:06

can't be in a combat sport and not be confident.

12:08

So as a trainer, we're gonna be smart.

12:10

Bye.

12:11

Man, he fifty eight, he shouldn't be

12:13

in here doing this with you. You gotta feed that to him

12:15

and hopefully you know, if you're on his side, that's what they've

12:17

been doing. So it's a balance between

12:20

we don't respect Mike and Mike, but we gotta let

12:22

Mike know he's fifty eight years old every now and again

12:24

throughout the fight.

12:25

I agree with that.

12:26

I agree with that, But for me, we

12:29

know he fifty eight, right, and

12:31

we're gonna shoat him like you're fifty eight. But in the first

12:34

couple of rounds, we gotta make sure we think he's thirty

12:36

eight.

12:38

He ain't your typical fifty eight. He

12:40

ain't Trent typical.

12:42

Exactly what I'm saying. I'm early

12:44

on. We gotta be respectful. Then

12:48

you got to remind him though.

12:49

He fifty eight.

12:50

Though, No, because

12:52

if you don't, if you look, if you don't test Mike, if

12:54

you don't touch Mike at all, Yeah, he's

12:56

gonna mess around. Think he thirty eight the whole.

13:02

Not that door.

13:02

You do test that third eight in the third round

13:04

when it's still thirty eight.

13:05

It's all man, Ain't nothing you can do about it. Now, you

13:08

just crack about engine that you can't shut out. Got

13:11

when I found dude.

13:12

I'm telling me hit him with you have cut. I'm

13:15

gonna hit this foot with a right up cut. His pavord

13:17

punch is the history of the botom throwing right up a cute. He

13:20

was trying to take your head off. You think I'm gonna make him

13:22

start that.

13:23

You ain't trying to turn that.

13:24

Look, Hey, that fight

13:26

right there, payming not money for that.

13:28

That flight between them two was bad

13:30

for my nerves. Bro them two of

13:32

my uncles bro fighting at the at the picnic.

13:35

Oh.

13:35

Man, I'm seeing Roy box and I'm seeing

13:37

Mike looking like Mike. I'm like Mike looking

13:40

like Mike and Roy looking like they

13:42

having flash.

13:42

But it's going man, my bro, it's bad

13:44

for my nerves.

13:45

But you say, Roy Casey go bad. You gotta be ready to

13:47

go bad with him.

13:48

You feeling that's hot. But

13:50

I can do that, right, And.

13:52

I just won't see you after the fight

13:54

when they talking to y'all, You got your hand over the reels,

13:56

right, you're holding up right.

14:01

That's the last thing leave is the power dude

14:04

still comus. That's why I say I can't

14:06

see. And then he's gotten even bigger. You

14:09

see bigger. He's really training. H Like, I'm

14:11

not saying he didn't train for you, but like Biggier,

14:13

Yeah, he put on him for this fight.

14:15

Yeah.

14:16

But that's the thing about Mike, man, Like I

14:19

ain't I haven't really spent a lot of time around Mike.

14:21

You know, I probably seen Mike in my whole life one time

14:24

in passing in Vegas, uh at

14:26

a fight or something like that. But when

14:29

I interviewed him, that dude walked in the room, bro, like

14:33

I don't scared easy.

14:34

I wasn't saying. I ain't saying I was scared, but I

14:37

had to get myself together. He

14:41

got that aura because I had my back turn

14:43

right like, I'm in this. I'm in the suite getting ready, and rich

14:45

like, hey, we're coming up, all right? So the

14:47

door open. I turned around.

14:49

This dude came through the door. He was walking fast, his

14:52

head down. He looked like a little

14:54

lion coming through the door. I'm

14:57

looking at him. I'm like, I'm trying to,

14:59

you know, give myself together here and get me tired because he walking

15:01

so face.

15:02

And what's up? Brother, I'm like, what's up,

15:04

Mikey? But I'm thinking like dang.

15:05

Then he sit down and he getting miked up quick,

15:08

and I'm like, that's why he

15:11

that right there?

15:12

Whatever that is, that's how.

15:14

He intimidated all these grown men over the years,

15:16

a whole lot of I don't know how to explain it

15:18

because I made a career on dealing

15:21

with the bully.

15:23

That stuff mic got is real, Bro. You can see

15:25

it in his eye, you can hear it in his tone, and it's walking

15:27

demeanor. It's real.

15:29

It's real. I feel the same way when I'm around

15:31

it.

15:32

It's crazy being around athletes that got that oora.

15:34

You know, they just come in the room. Roy got it.

15:36

But it's not when Roy do it, it ain't like mean.

15:39

It's almost like, man, this dude, this is

15:41

greatness. Just walked in the room, Like man,

15:44

you know what I'm saying. Everybody got they different

15:47

vibe with it, depending on what their identity was

15:50

as a player.

15:50

Or a fighter.

15:51

But for y'all, like who can you think?

15:53

Who comes to your mind when you think about somebody just walk

15:55

in the room and changed the atmosphere.

15:57

Almost passed out.

15:57

When I'm at Mike, really, I'm gonna keep

16:01

I just played and I was on a different team.

16:03

This was like a couple of months before he traded for me.

16:05

I just gave his the Charlotte Bob catch

16:07

bout.

16:08

Thirty and I was coming out the turne

16:10

to talk with somebody, and somebody canna grab me behind.

16:13

Good game, good games I'm talking about

16:15

And I turned around. I'm like Jordan, and

16:17

you know what I'm saying. I had to catch myself. I'm

16:19

like black Jesus, I had to catch myself. You

16:22

know, I went I almost

16:24

went down. Bro but just but

16:26

just knowing what he is and how

16:28

I looked up to him and what he's done for basketball, Like

16:31

it's no feeling like that from

16:33

any basketball player I've ever been around in my life.

16:35

I've been around Magic, I've been around Bird, I've been around

16:37

everybody. Just him and what he his

16:40

presence and how everybody around when he's there,

16:42

how everybody around treats him. I can

16:44

see what you said about Mike because I was in the restaurant

16:47

in Miami with my whole team and Mike

16:49

Tyson walked in. The first thing I said was who Pitbull

16:51

off the lease? You know what I'm saying,

16:53

That's how I felt. But that same already

16:56

Jordan has, Mike has.

16:57

I think it's arguably the two most to

17:00

the biggest athletes of all time. You know, at

17:03

their run late eighties, early nineties,

17:05

it wasn't Yeah, absolutely,

17:08

a lot.

17:08

Of person would have been the greatest of all time.

17:11

Muhammad Ali when he coming room, even

17:13

as an old man, just the glow everything

17:16

changes everything. When I got in

17:18

the ring with him, he still jumped in front

17:20

of me. I said, how in the hell

17:23

as old as he is, he didn't get it.

17:26

And I didn't get a chance to meet Allie until he was older,

17:28

meeting before he passed. But he still

17:30

felt it even though he probably wasn't hisself. And you see

17:32

all the clips of the joking and the ship talking and I didn't

17:34

get none of that, but he's his mannerism still

17:37

kind of gave that bigger than life.

17:39

And I felt that with Jordan too.

17:40

Yeah, I felt agree to keep it fronk.

17:43

His daughter got some of that. Yes,

17:45

when she walked in the room, she has that like he

17:48

didn't. He didn't. It's contagious.

17:51

Didn't you just interviewed like this interview that Laila got

17:53

it for sure? Yeah, I'm looking for sure. Yeah,

17:55

she got it for sure. I think when I think about Mike's

17:57

run, I think about them ring walks,

18:00

man. I think about how he came

18:02

to the Ring with the music,

18:04

the o'minous music playing all black

18:07

he called the funeral music.

18:09

He called it was it a cutoff towel?

18:13

This is you know it's serious. This

18:16

me know it's serious.

18:17

List to be good.

18:17

Now he comes to it. All he got on his tower.

18:20

When that tower come up, that's it.

18:22

The dog out.

18:22

He ain't even got no socks on, no socks in that black

18:25

box and got no socks.

18:26

And then when you see him training, don't

18:28

train them underwell, so he's

18:30

serious, understandin't.

18:32

Playing at all? No socks, bro, no socks.

18:36

But when I'm man, when I'm when I'm young, though, watching

18:38

this stuff, like I'm looking at it and I'm

18:40

like, man, he is kind of scary, but

18:42

I'm tripping at these other grown men that

18:45

heavyweights, got muscles, all kinds of stuff.

18:47

I'm like, he looks scared. You

18:49

know he was scared. They were really they

18:51

didn't look but I.

18:53

Was saying, I'm young trying to process this, like, brother,

18:55

this dude looks scared, Like why, I mean, I know

18:57

he's scared, Mike Tyson, but shouldn't

18:59

you try to That's the stuff that always got

19:01

me about that era with Mike is how he would win the fight

19:03

before you got in the ring.

19:04

Mentor like how you do that? He

19:08

was deffinite.

19:08

I think my most iconic memory of when after

19:10

he won that fight he walked down Tupac was in there in

19:12

the tune of waiting on him. You know what I'm saying, like all

19:15

that stuff that all fits Mike. You know

19:17

what I'm saying who he was at the time, what he was for the

19:19

culture. He was bigger in the culture than people think.

19:21

At the time.

19:22

You know, but the world, the

19:24

world stopped when Mike fucked. Yeah, the

19:26

world stopped when Mike fucked. I mean, you can

19:29

you know, you can remember where when I was young.

19:31

You can remember where you're at.

19:32

What was going on.

19:32

Like I told you earlier, like my parts were really my mom would

19:34

be pissed she watched the fight, she'd be pissed

19:37

right after.

19:37

Motherfucker, we wasted fifty dollars for one

19:39

one, you know what I mean. So it's just like you were. You can it's

19:42

almost like music.

19:42

You could replace yourself and remember exactly

19:45

where you were when Mike was in this hey

19:47

day fightin.

19:49

Spinal spinal

19:53

it's broken speaking

19:55

speaking and spinal speaking. Hey,

19:59

we're gonna go there. You says you brought it up,

20:02

Mike. Mike is like a like a like a philosopher,

20:04

you know what I'm saying.

20:05

He got a lot of sayings, a lot of stuff, and you

20:07

know, give me some of y'all

20:10

y'all's best Mike Tyson one line.

20:12

The spinal killed spin when

20:14

he said that broke my back.

20:16

He's broken spinal that killed

20:19

me, man, I think that was That was and and and also

20:21

the one when he was so mad at Lenny's

20:23

Lewis.

20:24

He tells me he was ready to eat his kids and that's what And

20:26

then doing this, how this? How mad

20:28

he was?

20:29

He was so mad he started he went into his boxing

20:31

roller decks to start talking about the boxes that he knew and I'm

20:33

gonna kock out like he.

20:34

Did this, start going through all the boxes side.

20:36

Yeah, you know, he pissed off for real.

20:38

But also how boxing wise?

20:40

How educated?

20:41

Yeah, exactly what the people think. That's

20:44

one thing I learned about him earlier. He knows a lot

20:46

about the history of history of boxing, way

20:48

more than people give him credit for.

20:50

He kept saying, I'm Jack Dempsey, I'm silling list and

20:52

like he went down the road like that's

20:54

Mike there.

20:54

Man.

20:55

He way more sophisticated than people give him credit

20:57

for. Got the you know, he got the look and you

21:00

know the type of style he fought with.

21:01

But Mike is a brilliant mind. Man, he is.

21:04

You sit and talk to him. He he know that boxing. You

21:06

got his he got he know his history.

21:09

Why can't something like, uh, Jake Paul Mike

21:11

Tyson fight, but we can't get a Canelo benevide

21:13

is or or tank.

21:14

And because unred call no.

21:18

But yeah, that's that that would be better. You hurt me,

21:20

but he's smocked me.

21:21

My, my, My reason for the Canelo

21:25

benevide is, like I said, and the reason we get a fight

21:27

like this is a this fight,

21:30

Mike's making me more money they gonna make doing anything

21:32

else right now. So Mike's being basically

21:35

pushed to a point where you off of that kind of how

21:37

can't you say no at fifty eight years old?

21:39

What a fight at fifty eight years old?

21:41

Plus part more. That's just the baseline, which but

21:43

you feel me.

21:44

So that's why this fight is happening as

21:46

opposed to Canelo. But Conello at the same time

21:49

is at a point where he he kind of got on cruise

21:51

control. He ain't trying to take too

21:53

many chances right now. He don't wanna see

21:56

nothing like that. That's too too risky for me.

21:58

This, Yeah, that's two risky right now.

22:00

Dre if it happened, would you if

22:02

if it just happened and the

22:05

money got right quickly.

22:06

Driven wait for somebody verse, it's

22:08

and Drea Dog. He's been waiting for somebody to

22:10

ask, how

22:14

do you?

22:14

How do you?

22:15

I'm funny, but I will tell you that I'm

22:17

still in the window.

22:18

Though, still in the window, still

22:20

in that window.

22:21

That's why I don't nobody call my name, because I'm still

22:23

in that window.

22:24

That same he talking

22:26

about you got it, no question.

22:30

They got to call him to ask him the right question, offen,

22:33

the right come out down the fight,

22:35

gonna what you're looking for without a question?

22:38

As a winner, he can't help it. He answered

22:40

it, and I'm gonna be there all the smoke.

22:42

Fight. Yeah, just going crazy. We yeah,

22:45

we yeah, we that's

22:47

so g down man.

22:49

But I think the reason the difference though, between

22:52

why why this fight can be made and

22:54

maybe some of the other fights came this

22:56

fight right here, How do you look at

22:59

it? It ain't got the same consequences of a

23:01

bena vida Is Canelo.

23:02

Or Rush Cord, Javontae Davis. You

23:05

know, we in a strange time for me, you

23:08

know.

23:08

And I may sound like an old head saying this, but like

23:12

cats ain't really they really don't have an appetite.

23:15

To prove, nothing to nobody.

23:17

The money already there.

23:18

The money's not only already there, but you got you

23:20

got all these platforms.

23:22

If I got a big enough uh following,

23:26

as long as y'all think I'm the guy, and

23:28

y'all rocking with me and riding with me in the comments

23:30

and all this kind of stuff, that's enough for me trying

23:32

to prove it and risk everything that I

23:34

built that I can lose in one

23:37

night if something go bad, I ain't really you

23:39

gotta make a lot of sense for me to do that. So

23:41

the reason why this this ain't got consequences

23:44

like the mother fights do those are real legacy

23:47

consequences. Mike lose, Oh he fifty

23:49

eight, Jake lose, he's not really a boxer. Ain't

23:51

a lot of consequences there. When you got two guys they live,

23:53

breathe this, this is who they are. One

23:55

of them come up short.

23:57

It's a different What could change that money?

23:59

Because it's money. Everything could change that or not even.

24:01

That money's part of it, man, But I don't think

24:03

it's gonna change. I think unfortunately, man, it's

24:05

gonna continue to trend in this direction and we and

24:07

these bigger fights gonna happen because some dudes just built

24:09

like that. But I think that appetite

24:12

is becoming less and less because again,

24:14

if my following is big enough and if

24:16

I'm able to same thing with Canelo, Canelo

24:19

don't have to fight then to be there because y'all

24:21

gonna show up regardless. So what motivation

24:24

do I have fighting an A guy. We're not gonna

24:26

fight a B minus guy, but sell sell

24:28

the fight as a A guy, I.

24:29

Risk low reward.

24:31

So on one hand, it's like from a

24:33

business standpoint, I can't knock you because

24:35

really, for so many years fighters fought

24:39

too much.

24:39

They had too much risk

24:41

and not enough reward.

24:43

Now we're mad because fighters taking less risk

24:45

and getting more reward.

24:46

I'm all for the money.

24:47

Get your money, but just don't come

24:49

talking about legacy at the

24:51

end of the day, do that, man, I salute

24:53

you.

24:53

Bro.

24:54

We're talking about Wyin't on the powerful power list, but now

24:56

we gotta talk about it.

24:58

Why I'm better than him? Are you really?

25:01

Are you willing to show us? So get

25:04

your money? Red,

25:07

don't get mad because somebody somebody

25:09

say you ain't fought nobody because you know they got these

25:11

websites how box records one of them.

25:13

You go to Wikipedia and you can see the

25:15

actual names and the records

25:17

and the records of who you thought who they fought.

25:19

And then people ain't gonna do this. Then you cross reference.

25:22

Oh you beat a dude that was twenty three and over who he beat?

25:25

I ain't never heard of nobody he beat? Right,

25:28

So that shows me

25:30

your strength to schedule. If I'm talking like in basketball,

25:33

turns or box.

25:34

And tail, the number of world champions you thought matter.

25:36

It ain't show a record, bro, who did you beat?

25:38

And who did he beat?

25:39

Yeah?

25:40

Yeah, cats ain't really trying

25:42

to prove that these days, which again I salute you, bro, but just

25:44

don't come talking about that poundful pound list and don't

25:46

come talking about being an all time nothing. If

25:49

you ain't putting it on the line, Cat's then lost

25:51

brain cells and trying to

25:53

prove.

25:55

You ain't you the best? I'm the best?

25:57

Right?

25:57

So I understand we in a different time. We

26:00

can't never lose that completely because they

26:02

with is boxing.

26:02

If we do that, it's getting lost though, because

26:05

now what I found out was

26:07

that at the amateur level, you

26:09

know, oh yes, you feel

26:12

me. It used to be it's crazy

26:14

everybody do what they do. They fight, you win,

26:16

you go to the next level. You go to the next level, You go to the

26:18

next level, you win everybody at the top level.

26:20

Now we all go to the nationals. They pick and

26:22

we fight and the one are gonna last?

26:24

Mess that?

26:26

Now, uh, none

26:29

of that. You pick who you wanna fight the nationals.

26:34

Ain't if he too tall, you ain't gonna fight him. And

26:37

you still can become national champion. How the

26:41

best boy to be the guy who beat everybody else?

26:44

How do you become national champion? We don't know if you're the best

26:46

of that.

26:46

But that's what they're doing in the amateurs now politics,

26:49

So how is that gonna not transcend

26:51

to thee

26:53

But.

26:53

That's why we go international and we fight. We face

26:55

these other countries, Russia, Ukraine,

26:59

Cuba. They really about

27:01

this, and that's why we

27:03

falter the way we do. That's why we can't stand

27:06

up. We used to be feared, bruh, No, we

27:08

used to be feared.

27:09

M I don't know how many metals y'all had a eighty eight with a lot

27:11

of 'em.

27:11

But he got a point though, he said a lot of them. No, no,

27:13

you he go to punt though because

27:16

they wasched us growing up. So

27:19

now that they grown they tryna dolicate

27:21

what they start to the United States. People, do we

27:24

done turned around so bad? Not that next

27:26

twenty years they not gonna be like us. They

27:28

gonna say, we don't wanna be like that, We wanna be the best.

27:31

Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Mean, So they got that

27:33

way watching us in the past. Yeah, Now

27:35

we not leading right cause you got you gott like

27:37

the Cubans, man, they gotta they take you out

27:40

of your home and

27:42

they gotta.

27:42

They got a boxing system called the farm.

27:46

Say, bruh, that's who you fighting in four years.

27:49

This other Olympics just got done. That's who you gonna

27:51

be fighting. This dude is out of his home,

27:54

his comfort zone every day. That

27:56

the mission is gold medal, not a metal.

27:59

Right.

28:00

You got the Russians, you know,

28:02

you got the They got schools for this. This

28:04

is all we do. But we out

28:07

here with the phone.

28:07

Yeah, man, I got you

28:10

got kids posting their bracket

28:12

and stuff on Instagram,

28:14

and then while they winning, they still posting,

28:17

and then when they lose, you don't hear from them no more. That's

28:19

just you know, I get it, man, I'm not so

28:22

old. I don't understand the game, but just

28:24

understand the type of mindset.

28:25

Bro.

28:26

Say, kid, you eighteen nineteen twenty,

28:28

you going up against a twenty eight, twenty nine yar old

28:30

something. He gotta have it because if

28:32

I come back to Cuba without a gold medal, no

28:35

respect, no respect, I'm

28:37

gonna get replaced. So that

28:39

mentality, like Roy said, comes into the pro

28:41

game, and that's cool.

28:44

We can have a little bit of that's a new day and age. Man, you

28:46

gotta have that other thing in.

28:47

You, bro.

28:47

If you're gonna be mentioned with the greats and if greatness

28:50

ain't part of yo your plan, that's

28:52

cool. But I appreciate the ones

28:54

who still like cause hic go the thing. You can still get

28:56

your money and be great, right, it ain't one of the others.

28:59

So i'm'a always ask for that

29:01

and call for that, though I could put my business hat

29:03

on and understanding game too.

29:04

On the business side.

29:05

With a number le le, let me ask this question.

29:07

As a boxer, does it matter more

29:09

of who you beat or does it matter

29:12

about the number of champions that you beat?

29:14

How do how do y'all look at that?

29:15

Cause I r I heard you just say that it matters of

29:17

who you beat, But a lot of times people say, well.

29:19

How many champions did he beat? Is see know what I'm saying.

29:21

He got the problem with that though, and

29:24

boxing is so political that you might

29:26

not be to get them champions in the ring.

29:27

Yeah.

29:28

When I was a middleweight, I couldn't get nobody to fight with woe

29:30

I got the I be up tied of the WBC champion though,

29:33

cause Aaron M.

29:33

King was beefing you know what I'm saying the

29:36

motors. Yeah, So a lot of times you couldn't

29:38

get them on the champions in front of you.

29:39

Right when I was a light hipyweight, I've tried

29:42

to win every belt known

29:44

in the light he went the vision.

29:45

I couldn't get the boy to come from jump mm.

29:47

So it's not it's not about how many champions

29:50

you can beat, because sometime you can't get them

29:52

champions wars. I couldn't get champions in the ring

29:54

really until I got the light hipyway.

29:55

That's the business of boxing that a lot of people don't know. I

29:58

want.

29:58

I wanted to become undisputed cha up at middleweight

30:01

and super middlewek I couldn't get the other champil.

30:03

No, they won't fight me. They wasn't doing it. They

30:05

looked over there. No we're not doing I

30:08

mean but but but that's not my fault. I wanted

30:10

it, I just couldn't. It's just so that's

30:12

why I say it don't to me matter. It's

30:15

not a matter how many champions. Yeah, it's who

30:17

you beat. It's who you beat, Yeah, because you might be able

30:19

to get those champions in the ring, because you might be a dude.

30:21

You may be a dude that don't have a big name. But

30:24

he really liked that. Perfect example. Perfect example.

30:26

The guy thought I played the basketball game after

30:28

I beat him, he wouldn't have became a w BC

30:31

super middleweight champion.

30:32

And here that thing for three years, and

30:34

they said he was a nobody, but he became

30:37

champion. Heard it for three years.

30:38

And it's not like he

30:40

wasn't a champion when I beat him. So I couldn't

30:43

say I beat the champion then, but he went on

30:45

to becoming But.

30:45

You can't say you played in the basketball game and then beat

30:48

him.

30:48

But believe it, they

30:52

couldn't pay me enough money. I'd

30:55

be in my head so much like my legs gonna be tied

30:59

for me, I can't do.

31:00

But it was dope because, like I said, I played in the G League

31:02

back when Roy was in it. It was just

31:04

like it was one of them spectacles because you gotta think he's

31:06

on top of the world, one of the greatest boxes

31:08

of all time, but currently doing this thing.

31:10

He's also rapping in this oops, like what

31:14

for real? Right?

31:16

It was crazy obviously with you know, Showtime

31:20

doing what they did, HBO doing what they did,

31:23

Netflix jumping into this space?

31:25

Do you see a future here? Before

31:27

I even you guys answer that.

31:29

Netflix, y'all rode the red carpet out man, holy

31:31

ship, the way I thought I was Obama for a

31:33

second, The way I was.

31:34

Treated at like that.

31:35

It was changing seats and took me down where the

31:37

airplanes were in a car and I didn't

31:39

have to go to the gate.

31:40

I got to walk up the backstairs like thanks,

31:42

Netflix would treating me what I'm used to. That's

31:45

doing for you, Okay, they

31:48

treat me good. Well, he don't appreciate

31:50

it.

31:51

Talks about Netflix jumping into this fight space

31:54

and and do you see a future in it?

31:55

Man? I love it.

31:56

I appreciate it.

31:57

You know, the big dogs

31:59

are out, you know, show Time HBO.

32:01

I still can't believe that, crazy, right, but

32:03

it you know, it's a streaming world now, so Netflix

32:06

has I think hundreds of u uh millions

32:08

of subscribers.

32:10

So I love the new players.

32:11

And it takes them getting used to though, because

32:14

you know when new people come to boxing, it's.

32:16

Not the old school feel.

32:18

Nah, it's different.

32:19

It's new. So it takes them getting used to it.

32:21

But I love it because it opens up the sport to a

32:23

brand new audience, a brand new platform, and

32:25

that's always a good thing for the sport.

32:26

I dout too, because to me it's called evolution

32:29

yup, or it's evolving. Everything always

32:31

constantly eVols. And to be able

32:34

to generate this kind of money for a fight like this

32:37

gives hope to all the fighters because now that

32:39

what kind of money these two guys making them.

32:41

These guys are not.

32:42

Really considered prime time top

32:44

notch fighters, right, Imagine what a prime time

32:46

top notch fighter can do right now? Ye, So with

32:49

this door being opened, I think it's a beautiful thing

32:51

for boxing.

32:52

Do you think you know,

32:54

obviously Netflix is is is is at

32:56

the top of their space. Do you think they can generate

32:59

enough money to get start getting these

33:01

big fights with two real

33:03

premiere i'mas.

33:05

I'm'a speak first because

33:07

I know how he feel about

33:09

that too, But I'm just saying for me, it

33:12

goes back to what we just said. If you don't

33:14

wanna prove that you the best, I don't care how

33:16

how much money pay you.

33:17

You not gonna fight that. Dude, you don't

33:19

want that. And it's like you said that hung

33:21

ain't there no more.

33:22

If we grew up at a time when and

33:25

y'all are definitely understand this, Doctor

33:27

j wasn't gonna play with Magic, Magic

33:30

wasn't gonna play with Burd. Burd wasn't

33:32

going to play with neither one of them because everybody

33:35

got their corner, you

33:38

understand' coming.

33:39

That's just how it always was.

33:40

So we didn't believe in that we

33:43

all get together and go, no, bruh,

33:45

who which one.

33:46

Of us are the best?

33:47

Period?

33:47

Who can y'all beat us? Can they beat us? Can? Who?

33:50

And without that mentality, I

33:52

don't care how much money they got, they not gonna

33:54

fight.

33:54

Yeah.

33:55

You see, if boxing ain't for everybody to see,

33:57

I'll be getting knocked out every week for they check. I'm

33:59

telling 'em every two months, bro, how much I'm

34:02

going there to win. But if I get knocked out, so bid.

34:04

But at least I got out there, get

34:07

to take al That's true. They're scared to take l

34:10

but they got a reason. They got a good reason though. They

34:12

got a good reason though, Because in boxing,

34:14

you're right one time or they're

34:16

right completely.

34:17

You lose twice.

34:18

Are you going back in the past, you're not. Don't

34:20

worry about coming back. You ain't coming back the more. Yeah, you ain't got

34:22

to worry about that.

34:23

You got to get You're

34:26

not who you said.

34:27

I know where you're going shop, I know where you got.

34:29

I know it's a joke. Got a big joke.

34:32

You got a big center of the face target too, like

34:34

that should

34:37

have be smashed like a pancake like this.

34:39

I we eat

34:41

what we kill in boxing. You know,

34:43

we only get paid when we fight.

34:45

We gotta take the risks a lot of times to get certain

34:48

certain type of money.

34:49

But y'all have guaranteed contracts. We

34:51

don't know nothing about that. How do you keep your hunger

34:53

night in and night out when your money

34:55

is guaranteed?

34:56

I think I think we've seen that similar

34:58

shift. That's what you guys are talking about as far as this,

35:01

you know, I mean not to say that these kids

35:03

aren't as talented as we've

35:05

ever seen, but there's just so much

35:08

there now, and there's so much money now, and there's

35:10

the load management, and there's the

35:12

hooking up shit in practice to see how much

35:16

strain they're putting on their body. Like when we played,

35:18

you know, it was a badger honor to play eighty two games

35:21

and then try to make the playoffs and playing that.

35:23

You know what I mean.

35:23

And although everyone didn't always do it, but that was the

35:25

goal was we were only sitting out if we couldn't

35:28

absolutely could not play. It's

35:30

just a different game, you know. So as you say, it's kind

35:32

of signed the time, and it's evolving. Not

35:35

everything evolving is always evolving in the right direction,

35:37

but it's still evolving. So it's

35:39

funny when you got you're talking about I wanted to add that point,

35:41

but like you said, when you see these other

35:43

countries, the last what four MVPs,

35:46

five MVPs have been European players, you

35:48

know what I mean. And it's not to say that our kids

35:50

and our young Americans aren't talented.

35:52

It's just a different mindset now.

35:54

And every once again you'll run against those ones that want that shit,

35:57

like Anthony Edwards and some of these other guys. But for the

35:59

most part is it's a different time.

36:02

It's a different times. It's a lot of money, it's

36:04

a lot of this, and there's a lot of other Like everyone's a brand

36:07

themselves now, you know what I mean. So it's I

36:09

miss as a as you say, as an older person,

36:12

where every single night, I know, if I'm gonna

36:14

take my family to a game, I'm gonna see the best players

36:16

on the court.

36:17

It's just I think for me, I never expected

36:19

to be rich, so that was a plus.

36:22

I fell in love with basketball when I was broke, and

36:24

I fell in love with it genuinely authentically.

36:26

So I always played the game to prove something, you

36:29

know what I'm saying.

36:29

I always felt like I never

36:32

got the props for playing basketball growing up and

36:34

growing up in Texas, I was one of the best players,

36:36

but I didn't get recognition, recognition time I went to

36:38

a prep school, So I always felt like I had something

36:40

to prove, and that was my attitude the whole time.

36:42

In the NBA, even.

36:44

After the money, you know what I'm saying, Even after month,

36:46

we played a certain way, you know what I'm saying. Regardless

36:49

who was out there, regardless what we was getting paid, we

36:51

showed up to be better than the guys we

36:53

were playing against.

36:54

You know what I'm saying. We appreciate the game. The game is.

36:56

The game done a lot for guys like us because

36:58

we wasn't the top drop draft picks. We wasn't

37:01

the guys in the magazines and all that stuff, so we had

37:03

a lot to prove. So we had a let chip on our

37:05

shoulder. So even though we got the money and

37:08

we bust, some of the stars asked we wasn't

37:10

getting the respect that they got all

37:12

the recognition. So that's why we had that chip, and that's why we

37:14

had to play hard and took pride in the game more

37:16

than some people did.

37:18

I seen that I don't know dude name, but they

37:21

had him on the internet on TikTok.

37:23

I think he played for the Philly

37:28

I ain't gonna say, I was gonna.

37:29

Say a dancing kid.

37:32

He dancing, but it's like bro y'all to and four two

37:34

or seven or something.

37:35

Like Hey, hey, below key,

37:37

he's nice though, he's how

37:40

you look at that, like he's different.

37:41

But I'm saying, like, but still getting off with y'all

37:43

losing.

37:44

First, First off, we came in the league. If

37:47

we was coming in young, ain't none of that ship flying

37:49

with the best we had? It

37:51

wasn't none of that ship flying today? Would you

37:53

say something to Bro, we lose.

37:55

You can't do that, bro, like you tripping. You

37:57

know what I'm saying. I ain't into the dancing

37:59

and all that. You know what I'm saying.

38:00

So, Bro, if you coming and averaging

38:03

thirty points and we winning and you're doing your job, but do

38:05

all you want, but not too in full.

38:07

But that's why I'll say.

38:08

That's why I say the game is different now because

38:10

I have kids, you know, my twins just turned

38:12

sixteen. But I've been coaching in this space and

38:14

you'll see kids lose a game or

38:16

lose a turning, but have a whole highlight reel. That's

38:19

that's what this game is though, Like you know what I mean,

38:22

that's what it is.

38:23

Yeah, you know what I mean.

38:24

Sometimes we lost by thirty, you know, but

38:27

it's but it's but that's that's

38:29

kind of the give and take. So you see the mccains

38:31

dancing and acting, but he's out there putting

38:33

in work. But even if he wasn't putting on that's I

38:36

think that's just this new generation. You know, this

38:38

is just new generation. Seems

38:40

like they just celebrate life more, if that's what

38:42

you want to call it. They're having fun, they're always recording

38:44

themselves.

38:44

They're getting good money.

38:45

They're getting money that some don't deserve

38:48

at this point, you know, not to disrespect whoever's getting

38:50

their money, but they're.

38:51

Just getting a lot of money.

38:52

So like, fuck, we won, we lost, but

38:54

I'm winning in life, and I think that's

38:56

the way a lot of the ship that's agree.

38:59

Yeah, I wanted like you could.

39:00

I don't like. Yeah, I don't

39:02

know how you.

39:03

I wanted to be the best in the world.

39:05

Hitting your mouth like that ain't gonna

39:07

feel good. You're taking ls like

39:10

that, ain't gonna never feel good.

39:11

I can have two hundred million in the bank, clear, Yeah,

39:14

I'm gonna feel away. I'm gonna be getting up two

39:16

three in the morning, like we gotta fixed this. Maybe

39:18

we just old different times.

39:20

Yeah, we all we all talking about I'll

39:22

get a call from my mom, if I got my ass bust.

39:24

If by the compete again, I get a call from my mama.

39:27

This old ship. You know,

39:29

as we head towards this main event. What

39:32

are the pluses for both these guys if they win? I've

39:34

heard different ship. Obviously Mike is a little

39:36

bit older, a lot older. Fifty eight check

39:39

Jake, I mean they both if you look at it, if

39:41

if, if the numbers are correct,

39:43

you know, Jake and forty, Mike getting twenty, they both

39:46

already won. If Mike wins, is there what's

39:48

next or what's the pros? And then if Jake wins,

39:50

what's next?

39:50

And one for the pro?

39:51

Jake said, you want Canelo next?

39:52

I don't know if he wants the problems?

39:54

Well, wait a minute, do wait a minute?

39:55

Do he fighting Mike Canilo

39:57

can't be no more devastating to watching Mike. Secondly,

40:01

Secondly, when that's Canelo lately

40:04

put the top lunch down his other side

40:07

of his name. So this

40:09

would be very easy for him to sell

40:11

and make way more money.

40:12

Than finding the money, probably

40:14

his biggest pay there right, So why would he not?

40:16

Could Could this be hypothetically if this ship

40:18

does happen, if if

40:21

if Paul wins, would could could

40:23

Paul push Canelo's biggest pay day ever.

40:25

If he loses steel Mic depends

40:27

on how he.

40:28

Louke, I would be so upset with Canelo if held

40:30

Jacob, that's not gonna be there?

40:33

Are you?

40:33

He said he ain't gonna do it?

40:34

But I think I think you say that's.

40:37

A situation where if the number is right, I think Canelo

40:39

will do it. He sound do it that he's not a real fighter.

40:42

Put a couple up, put a couple.

40:43

Of hunth

40:46

like, watch what he do? Three twelve,

40:48

three hundred to do it?

40:49

No? Why because when

40:51

you look at a hundred, he's gonna look at that. They

40:53

ain't gonna look over him and see that most this

40:56

one hundred, Yeah, m

40:59

or he's gonna go there, I see this fell over hell yeah

41:02

yeah, I'm just a lot easier. Yeah,

41:05

man, I think I think for Jake, it's a it's

41:07

a uh it's a win lose

41:09

or lose lose.

41:11

If he if he stopped Mike, or win beat Mike,

41:14

you beat somebody else fifty eight, So it's a win

41:16

lose if Mike mess

41:18

around turning that clock back on you, like Roy said,

41:20

and then start thinking and feeling like he thirty

41:23

something and he do something to Jake and

41:25

dominate Jake or stop Jake or whatever case. It's a lose

41:27

lose, bro, you got beat by fifty eight year old man, but

41:29

if he beat if he beat Mike, you beat a fifty year

41:31

old fifty eight year old man.

41:33

So it's a it's a win lose or lose lose for Jake

41:35

for Mike.

41:36

Mike really playing with house money at the end of the day, man,

41:38

I think, you know, I think the world

41:41

has always been enamorate with Mike Tyson, but I

41:43

think they are really embracing Mike in his

41:45

older age now because he talking

41:47

a little bit there. He's still Mike, but he older now, he more

41:50

settled, and I think people can relate to that a little

41:52

bit more. And he's very honest about his feelings

41:54

and mistakes he made. And I just think people

41:56

want Mike to get out of there safe.

41:57

So it's really I think it's a win

42:00

win for Mike.

42:00

But you gotta also understand, legacy is

42:02

at stake for Mike. It's not from

42:05

not from the standpoint of adding to his legacy. He

42:07

just don't want to take none from right. And if

42:10

this was a regular, real fighter, he

42:13

don't really lose nothing if you lose, because that happens in

42:15

boxing, can't win them all.

42:17

But if you lose to that guy, so

42:19

this hurts the legacy.

42:21

All right, come on, Mike, that's how people are gonna feed.

42:23

I don't. I don't. I don't agree with that.

42:24

I'm not saying I'm not saying it does. I'm saying I just

42:27

think that that's gonna be The perception is that if

42:29

say, Jake Paul stopped Mike Tyson.

42:31

Yeah, but come on, but Peter McNeil stopped

42:33

Mike. Who is Peter McNeill. Now he

42:35

stopped Peter mcneally, Okay, one

42:37

of them?

42:38

What's later?

42:39

I know you're too, he

42:41

stopped had no British guy had ever

42:44

even being in the ring with Mike Tessons's true. So they

42:47

gonna accept that because he's a fighter.

42:48

Yeah, but this is a little bit bigger stage

42:51

too, because you're fighting someone who with the social media

42:53

runs runs the world.

42:54

So obviously him winning that is gonna go

42:57

crazy for all for the

42:59

young kids.

43:00

Yeah, but that's the new that's the audience

43:02

he's they're bringing into an older sport.

43:04

But some people mad at.

43:05

Mike even taking the fight. They get mad at

43:07

me because I'm we associated with it. Why are

43:09

you even promoting this, brother?

43:11

We got a job to do. I didn't make the fight. Gosh,

43:14

y'all here putting me in percents steal. But

43:19

most of the people gonna watch it anyway.

43:21

That's

43:23

why the numbers are the way that they are.

43:25

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43:26

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43:34

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43:36

Nobody's talking about this from Mike

43:39

Tyson winning by decision.

43:41

I love that bet because you guys think you're

43:43

gonna gash out.

43:44

I like that too.

43:45

That's not so bad because four years

43:47

ago he just did eight rounds with Boy Jones

43:50

Jr.

43:50

Those are three minute rounds. This is only two minutes,

43:53

so we know he has a stammin up to do that.

43:55

But the bet is Mike

43:57

Tyson winning by knockout. I'm

43:59

talking to maybe third rounds

44:02

once again.

44:02

We know we have the stamina.

44:04

You see those clips, those six second clips.

44:06

He's hitting hard, he's hitting fast, He's

44:08

still explosive. And me to remind

44:11

you, he's Mike Tyson. Okay,

44:13

what plan a second? Wait a second.

44:15

If Tyron Woodley can hurt Jake Paul,

44:17

Mike Tyson can knock him out.

44:19

Folks, this is not Iron Like

44:21

Tyson, twenty one year old Iron

44:24

Like Tyson, undisputed heavyweight champ,

44:26

Iron Mike Tyson. This is fifty eight

44:28

year old Mike Tyson. Is another

44:31

event that I really like. A draw Mike

44:33

Tyson Jen Paul draw. This is how I

44:36

see the fight playing out. I've seen Mike being

44:38

dangerous early in the fight. To

44:41

your point, backing Jacob

44:43

Jake is gonna be a little intimidated because guess what he's gonna

44:45

see Mike Tyson in front of him, I mean Iron

44:48

Mike Tyson in front of him.

44:49

So he will be backing up on the

44:51

back foot, shooting the.

44:52

Jab here and there.

44:53

Mikeauld get some of those early rounds, but

44:55

then Gason Line is going

44:58

to be wasted out. That tech Mike

45:00

is gonna get gassed out. The youth is gonna play

45:02

a part and Jake is gonna drive.

45:03

His way to a draw. I love that beat.

45:05

You just saw Mike Tyson fight Broyd Joses. I told

45:08

you four years ago he had the stamina

45:10

to go eight rounds. Come on, he's

45:12

not gonna gas out. I don't think he's gonna gas out

45:14

a draw. You gonna lose your

45:16

money if you better.

45:17

Those odds are massive. Trust

45:20

me on this for them and listen four

45:22

years.

45:22

As a lifetime A Man of Sarano versus

45:24

Katie Taylor tune in Dallas.

45:27

I love this fight and I want.

45:29

To put some money up on it.

45:31

Yeah, it's a fifty to fifty fight.

45:32

Though I know everyone's thinking a Man of Serrano

45:35

is gonna lose. What is she a plus one oh five?

45:37

But I think Katie's been through a lot

45:39

of wars. I'm putting my money

45:42

on a Man of Serrano winning straight

45:44

money lock.

45:44

Katie's a minus one thirty right now and

45:47

the man is a plus one oh five.

45:49

Odds are subject fifty fifty.

45:50

It's about fifty to fifty, but not technically. But those

45:53

odds can change getting closer to

45:55

the fight.

45:55

I have to I hate to.

45:57

Agree with Barack, but I feel good

45:59

about a man up having her second

46:01

shot at Katie Taylor avenging that

46:03

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46:06

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46:06

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46:53

Katie Taylor and a manas around. They finally

46:55

got their rematch after a couple of years. Some

46:58

say it was a controversial fight. A g

47:00

I'm gonna start with you, Roy, they finally

47:03

doing this rematch. How you see this rematch going, Well,

47:05

it's a tough thing. First of all, Shout out to him though,

47:07

because Katie getting six point

47:10

eight million.

47:10

Dollars, no women, no woman never got that before?

47:12

How much six point eight me? And shout

47:15

out to Jake Paul for that.

47:18

He's the.

47:20

Real MVP, So shout out to him for that. And

47:23

that's a big thing. Yeah, that's that's the big I mean,

47:26

that's one of the biggest things going. So h

47:28

But as far as the fight goes, the first

47:30

fight could have gone either way. I

47:33

was surprised that they actually gave it

47:35

to Katie being at Amanda's

47:37

home home tap basically you feel

47:39

me, So that kind of shocked me too. But you

47:42

know, Katy did come back and she did what

47:44

she was supposed to do down in the end, so I thought the fight could

47:46

have gone either way. This time though, I

47:48

think Amanda has an opportunity

47:50

to go back and look at it and see what she can make

47:52

adjustments.

47:54

Katy.

47:54

I don't know how good she is at making adjustment because

47:56

I've never really seen her have to make adjustments.

47:59

She just do more, you know.

48:00

So knowing that she's just gonna do more,

48:03

you gotta figure out how to navigate that. So if

48:05

Amanda has any kind of any

48:08

kind of trainers that know how to navigate boxing,

48:10

yeah, she can make adjustments. Kitty

48:13

is just gonna come do more.

48:14

How do you think, you know?

48:16

Jake said, one of his proudest moments is

48:18

is putting you know, allowing Serrano to have

48:20

this platform and to

48:22

two guys who've been through it. Obviously, with the

48:24

growth of the WNBA as we see on the men's

48:27

side, how do you guys feel about the growth of

48:29

this side of of boxing, the women's

48:31

side of boxing, and and and stuff like this to

48:33

kind of keep it going, Like you said, the highest payday

48:35

ever for a woman in the in a boxing I.

48:37

Respect it, I love it. I'm a I'm a huge

48:40

women's boxing fan and advocate.

48:44

I think we need more of it.

48:45

And this is why this is one of the reasons why I do respect

48:48

what Jake is doing in the game, because a lot

48:50

of cats been in the game man, you know, and I I

48:52

look at like even the media, and it's like, it's always a reason

48:54

why we can't give the women they just do right,

48:57

and we say things.

48:59

On air like, well, you know, nobody really wants

49:01

to see. Well, nobody's gonna want to see if we keep talking

49:03

like that, So give me some reasons why this can

49:06

work.

49:06

Jake has done that, and we see that the women

49:09

are putting on tremendous

49:11

performances and I.

49:13

Just love it, bro.

49:14

I love that they able to get they just do notoriety

49:16

wise.

49:17

Then also that money, right,

49:19

build your legacy within that money, because that's what you're gonna

49:21

need when you're done with this game. So I love it, bro,

49:23

I'm here for it. And I'm really excited about

49:25

that that, you know, the remass and also the

49:27

other women.

49:28

It's so many.

49:28

They ain't gonna start naming because I'm gonna forget somebody.

49:31

There's so many women right now doing

49:33

their thing. And then even

49:35

we just talked told you we talked to Laila Ali and Layla

49:37

was one of the pioneers at Lady Foundation.

49:40

So I just I love it, man, and I'm

49:42

here for it.

49:44

Shifting to fashion to the fashion line. Both

49:46

of you guys are bigger fashions. A lot of Jordan Jordan.

49:51

What you did y'all? Heavy?

49:53

Uh?

49:54

Can I get something?

49:56

I just blessed you. I've been blessing you. You

49:58

know what I'm saying. You got them own now that ain't

50:00

the ones I blessed.

50:01

Gave me some other George, though, he gave me some other bad

50:04

ain't out yet. Yeah, I'm

50:06

like I had a month. Of course I ain't talking about him.

50:08

Yeah, I know.

50:11

I screamshoted and took a picture like, oh where you get

50:13

these from?

50:14

Brother? This was like a month ago, like six weeks

50:16

ago. Dre had them ships wave girl.

50:19

Yeah, yeah, finally

50:21

got slide, hold on, hold on on. He

50:23

can't just pass by.

50:24

This's like Roy don't Roy got a lot of Geordans.

50:26

But he don't always to breathe. He let

50:29

him, He let him Jordan's slide. So to see this

50:31

man in some Jordan's like this this.

50:33

If you need proof, just go to the Fight Times

50:35

episode you got

50:38

on the show everything but shift in the fashion

50:40

Jake so say spent a million

50:42

dollars on his outfit. He's doing a

50:44

collab with shoe Surgeon. What was your biggest

50:47

collapse and and and what what did you

50:49

think about fashion? You know, besides being Jordan, guys,

50:51

when you were.

50:51

Boxing man, listen, I

50:53

loved it since I've

50:55

been a kid, like always had

50:58

my spar and stuff match the

51:00

colors. Like when they say

51:03

you look good, you feel good, that's me.

51:06

Like when I'm pulling my sparing stuff out, I'm excited.

51:09

My favorite part of the day

51:12

going to the gym was lacing up my new boots.

51:15

I would have twenty

51:18

thirty pair of boxing boots.

51:20

Like when I lace them up, I

51:22

get my socks right and I stand up

51:24

and bouncing looking at mirror.

51:27

It's time to work.

51:28

So for me the way I look

51:31

not for nobody else but for me man

51:33

Like all my trainers, I had tights underneath

51:35

my stuff gotta be right.

51:37

And then that translated to the.

51:39

Ring and being

51:41

with Jordan man like I had the ability

51:43

to build, to go and really help create.

51:46

So whatever was going on at that time, whatever

51:49

the line or whatever

51:51

shoe was out, if the forest is out, we're gonna try to make

51:53

something around that.

51:54

And it was probably my favorite

51:57

thing when I get when I when my outfit come

51:59

to the house. Two weeks

52:01

before and it's what we worked.

52:03

On and I pull it out like

52:05

the first day of school, they

52:08

send me ten boxes in my boxing shoes.

52:11

I'm like somebody in trouble and so

52:13

a man. I loved

52:16

it.

52:16

Man, and I think too that also

52:18

connect kept me connected to the younger generation.

52:20

Too, is like they mean you clean, you

52:22

always clean.

52:23

They can respect that. If youngers don't respect nothing else,

52:26

they won't respect your dress, type of

52:28

shoes you got on. And then seeing

52:30

Roy do his thing, I was always

52:33

a.

52:35

Super detailed, just watching every little thing.

52:37

So I could tell you everything. I'm gonna let him tell

52:39

it, but I could tell you everything.

52:40

About his outfits, the

52:43

detail like now he's always had like the little

52:45

bow tie on the side of his trunk with two little

52:48

tassels coming down. And then he used to always

52:50

wear tassels and most of the time he wear tasseles with the shoes

52:53

like man, that looked clean and it fit

52:55

his boxing style and how he got down. Man,

52:58

Roy took it to another level. I wouldn't dancing to the ring.

53:00

Road was dancing to the ring. He makes

53:02

seem like you're going to a party. And some ship me

53:05

though the fashion was big.

53:08

But what I learned was when I

53:10

watched Chidland with those tassels, with his fast

53:12

hands, tassels swinging too.

53:14

That did something to me.

53:15

You understand, mean, I started equating

53:18

the tassels with the handspeed, and

53:21

I knew I could do it. I say, Okay,

53:23

I'm gonna have to have tassels. The boy, I forget

53:25

what I got. I think I got that from knowing

53:27

that people.

53:28

Usually dress up. When they dressed up

53:30

with good they put on a bow ties.

53:32

So that's what that was on my trucks. I

53:34

didn't give a rat say ass what I

53:36

looked like going to school. I didn't

53:38

care what I looked like Sunday through

53:41

Friday. But Saturday night,

53:44

oh I got to have right. Everything gotta

53:46

be my from the mid piece to

53:48

the toe. The shoe better be right. Everything

53:52

gotta be right. That's the only time, you know,

53:54

the time I get it. She can tell you

53:56

any other time. I can kill us about anything else.

53:59

When it comes fight time. Oh no, that's my day.

54:02

Where the ducktail come from, because you had me want the

54:05

whole thing in the back man, in the

54:08

beginning, before you before you get a name,

54:11

you gotta make a for people to remember.

54:14

So I knew most people aren't doing that.

54:16

So I had that first tay figure

54:18

out who I really was, whether they figured out this

54:20

part.

54:21

Of me not I get rid of this because the.

54:24

Promotion marketing, you know, you gotta

54:26

do that. I must have forgot.

54:28

Now can you imagine social

54:31

media if you had that back?

54:34

So and what I'm trying to show y'all to

54:36

the why I have an appreciation for this weekend

54:39

exactly. The reason I have an appreciation for this weekend

54:41

is because Mike, like me, we

54:44

missed the social media, but

54:46

Jake is allowed Mike to

54:49

dabble back into it, you know, under

54:51

saying me, that's a beautiful thing.

54:53

So if you don't like that, something

54:55

wrong with you?

54:55

You gotta I got one more?

54:57

One want my one more?

54:59

How did you?

55:00

Uh?

55:01

Cause you had a lot of stuff around on your fight right as I get

55:03

an example, like like like in Portland for

55:06

Clinton Woods, bruh, you had a whole

55:08

you came way up there with the

55:10

dancers and you did How did you do all

55:12

that and not be worried about either not

55:14

mentally being focused or not having your energy?

55:16

How was you doing all that stuff before the r before you got

55:18

in the ring.

55:19

You know, i'm'a say this first, and

55:22

this is what people have to understand about me in life.

55:25

I love God right, so I

55:27

feel like everybody who God sent

55:29

to do things, he prepared him for it before he got

55:31

before he got to what he was actually supposed to do. I

55:34

was a kid that always did everything along

55:37

with along with what I had to do. So

55:40

in boxing, every day I'm hooping sometime

55:42

three times a day. But before I go to

55:45

training, i'm'a go whop, i'm'a

55:47

run, and i'm'a beat you in spartan m

55:50

So I had to have a full.

55:52

Plate more I lose interest.

55:53

Mm.

55:54

My daddy said I was a their devil. I said my daddy

55:56

say, I loved living on the edge. I don't

55:58

think I liked living on the edge. But I have to be occupied

56:01

with something or something to lose interesting.

56:04

When we didn't fight, I got ready quit and go play basketball.

56:06

Yeah, because I ain't fighting. If I ain't

56:08

fighting, I'm no good.

56:10

I got to be fighting. I got to

56:12

have something going on, so when anything

56:14

else, like when I can.

56:15

Dance, I can rap, I can pick

56:18

the girls, I can do whatever I need to do for the

56:20

dance and all that, because none of that don't matter

56:22

when that bell ring. I know how

56:24

to compartmentalize everything

56:26

I'm doing.

56:27

And I was great at this. So if I don't have a

56:29

full plate, I'm a boring dude.

56:31

Everybody can't do that now, Dre,

56:34

both you and Roy are part of this Netflix

56:36

broadcast.

56:37

Can you guys explain what you guys are be doing. They represent

56:39

the family, That's what they doing.

56:41

Represent the family. We're gonna be at the

56:43

fight. I'm gonna be working the desk with Kate

56:45

Scott. We're gonna be kind of setting

56:47

the night up and then Roy and they gonna

56:49

take it home. They're gonna be doing blow by blow calling

56:51

the action in the ring, so you know, all the

56:53

smoke will have a presence in the building.

56:55

Come fake time, on both on both stages

56:58

with fellas.

56:59

We appreciate your man. This has been a great

57:01

roundtable discussion art of smoke,

57:04

Dre. Before we get out of here and before we get there, Dre, we

57:06

want to thank you man for obviously taking

57:08

a chance on all the smoke, all

57:11

the smoke productions and helping us

57:14

guide all the smoke fight you

57:16

know, launching your own show, Art of War

57:19

with your first your first guest with Budd Car Crawford,

57:21

your latest guest is Mike Tyson, and

57:24

you got more cooking.

57:26

What has that been like? What has this journey been like for you?

57:29

Man?

57:29

It's come full circle?

57:31

You know what I mean?

57:32

And you know I've been in the game

57:34

a long time, the media game, not just on the fighter

57:37

side, but you know, I didn't been

57:40

through the showtime, the HBO era, the

57:42

ESPN. I've done all that, and when you're

57:44

with those companies, it's a blessing.

57:46

It's cool, but you limited.

57:47

You know, you got you gotta run a show, and you got certain

57:50

things you can and can't do, certain things you can and can't talk

57:52

about, and you have a limited time. I

57:54

love having this and I

57:57

watched y'all for years before we

57:59

started connect then, so I appreciate what

58:01

y'all have laid down, the foundation y'all have laid

58:03

down, and I take a lot from that. And

58:06

to be able to, you know, get

58:08

individuals in a room. Man, it just really just chop

58:10

game and just talk.

58:12

It's dope. And and to have creative

58:14

control. I'm a very creative person.

58:16

I'm very hands on with every project that I do,

58:18

so to be able to have a creative control with certain

58:20

clips we put on social or you know,

58:22

things we should take out of an.

58:23

Interview or things that ain't sitting right. Okay,

58:25

this is what the people want to see.

58:26

This is how we can make this person look their best

58:29

in this in this interviewer sound a band.

58:30

I love the process.

58:31

So the process has been dope, and it's cool

58:33

to know I could call on some favors too, because I don't never.

58:35

Call on my favorites.

58:36

I don't like asking people for stuff.

58:38

I was trying to stay out the way, but it's cool to pick

58:40

up the phone say hey man, I'm thinking about you know,

58:43

I ain't no problem, but now what's happening

58:45

though? And I know y'all know about this that now

58:48

now they reach he

58:50

can we can we can we figure out.

58:52

To day the building

58:55

they will come. Roy, what does it mean to you to for

58:57

you to be.

58:59

Dres So and all first free agent signing

59:01

for for him to you be the first person he wants

59:03

to come work with.

59:04

Well, man, it's just a testament to who he

59:07

is and what his career has been and what

59:09

truthful to me? What I meant to him

59:12

say, because it's like for him to have the

59:14

humidity to be able to come back and reach for me.

59:17

That's it.

59:17

You know.

59:18

The guys usually wanna trash the guys

59:20

to for them.

59:21

They're not respect for them to say, you know what I'm saying

59:23

good things.

59:24

He's the total opposite.

59:25

He grew up to be exactly what we would have wanted him to

59:27

gw up to be. So it's like you guys know guys,

59:30

y'all mentor you see him come through and they call

59:32

y'all to ask y'all questions, that different because

59:34

they wanna know and you have respect for them

59:36

because you wanna produce more of what y'all hast

59:38

dood form, right, and that's exactly what

59:40

he is. So to work for him and to have him come back

59:42

and reach for me, man, it's just it's been

59:45

God given.

59:45

You know, I wanna be half of the company. Man.

59:47

We definitely appreciate y'all And looking forward to what

59:49

you guys have in store for Yeah, all the

59:51

Smoke Fight closest out Jack.

59:53

Who else would you guys like to see in the

59:56

All the Smoke family?

59:59

Yeah?

1:00:01

Shot right now? Who we want to see a man,

1:00:03

who wants What about Max

1:00:05

Keller would be good?

1:00:07

I like that.

1:00:08

I'll be checking in with Max, Like, Man, what you got going on?

1:00:11

Max? Would be really good.

1:00:13

That's kind of Coid or mad. Max always

1:00:15

working on something, you know. So I don't know what he's working on,

1:00:17

but I may have to work with us, may have to make an official

1:00:21

step.

1:00:21

MA have to extend myself officially.

1:00:23

You know, I got the you know, my brothers, Andre,

1:00:25

Berto, Andre Durrell, they contribute.

1:00:28

We got some people were talking to. You got some people

1:00:30

were talking to.

1:00:31

But I think no matter who we bring in, man,

1:00:34

they gotta fit. But it's something we all decide on

1:00:36

because it's not quantity, it's quality,

1:00:39

right right.

1:00:40

I don't think we need anybody. I think we got

1:00:42

what we need. But if somebody fits and

1:00:44

it makes sense, man, I'm all for.

1:00:46

I mean coming in with you and Roy, I mean

1:00:49

yeah, anything else will be real

1:00:52

quick.

1:00:52

That's the thing about real last the

1:00:57

last thing on Roy. You know y'all said, you know, why

1:00:59

did he come over?

1:01:00

Man?

1:01:00

It don't make no sense to have not a boxing

1:01:03

mind, a sports mind right across the

1:01:05

board. Tell you about any sport to

1:01:07

not be in front of this camera talking

1:01:09

about it. That's true. That's almost criminal.

1:01:11

And just so you know, Rod, we're gonna pick your brain for some

1:01:14

other ship we're doing too. So stay sharp

1:01:16

in all sports.

1:01:16

I stay ready. Wait wait, wait, wait

1:01:18

wait, I ain't gonna lie to y'all.

1:01:20

The main sport football baseball.

1:01:21

But no, no, no, no, hold, I gotta stop. You want don't

1:01:24

ask nothing by baseball? Okay, wait,

1:01:27

wait, wait, wait, let me finish and tell you why. Let

1:01:30

me tell you why.

1:01:31

One of my favorite players of all times

1:01:34

was Pete Rose. All the

1:01:36

stuff these people do nowadays, y'all

1:01:38

let them in the Hall of Fame, but over gambling,

1:01:40

y'all gonna let Pete Rose in the.

1:01:42

Hall of fame.

1:01:43

I'm not watching baseball nomore, so I've been quit

1:01:45

baseballs and they did that.

1:01:46

I divorced baseball.

1:01:48

Okay, I used to watch it that.

1:01:49

I used to like, do goodn't goose

1:01:51

got.

1:01:51

I used watching all these dude back in Yeah, but when

1:01:53

they did that the Pete Roads, I quit watching baseball.

1:01:55

I respect while watching.

1:01:56

If you can't see the best player put in the Hall of fame,

1:01:59

what are we doing for the you understanding

1:02:01

store, don't have nothing about baseball, everything else I

1:02:03

got, you got, you can't can?

1:02:05

Can the NBA player transfer transfer over to

1:02:07

boxing? Is that easy for NBA player to trans

1:02:09

to go into boxing and the boxer is going into the NBA.

1:02:11

And once to say it's easy because once

1:02:13

again, it's what you kind of go up doing.

1:02:15

If you ain't got no heart. Yeah, you shot.

1:02:18

I wouldn't recommend it.

1:02:20

Yeah, I mean we've seen what

1:02:22

happens.

1:02:23

I wouldn't recommend it. So this

1:02:25

is a game, man, you gotta you gotta start from the crib.

1:02:28

You gotta start from the crib. Some dudes start

1:02:30

late, you know, they they be exception out the rule, but really,

1:02:32

gotta start from the crib.

1:02:33

You're really putting your life on the line.

1:02:35

It ain't like if me and you box, your whip

1:02:37

my ass, But it wouldn't be the same ass whipping on basketball

1:02:39

because cause I'll be physically mentally hurt.

1:02:41

You just lose, I'll be bloody

1:02:44

and all this shit. So it's not definitely not the same.

1:02:45

Hell no, it's gonna get out. Like they said, you play

1:02:48

basketball, you play football.

1:02:49

Can't play boxes. You can't play box.

1:02:52

And that's what Jake gotta see. If we don't play with.

1:02:54

That feeling the blank bro Jake

1:02:57

Paul wins.

1:02:58

If if he's there away from

1:03:00

Tyson, don't dump

1:03:16

he got to Yeah, that's the only way he went the

1:03:19

black dre If.

1:03:22

If Mike Tyson start getting tired and

1:03:25

late rounds me and to late, it's

1:03:28

eight rounds.

1:03:29

It's eight two minute rounds.

1:03:30

Yeah.

1:03:31

I like the two minutes for Mike, not to say he can't

1:03:33

go to three, but I kind of like that that's too much for my nerves

1:03:35

were trying to see Mike do eight three minute rounds.

1:03:37

You know what I'm saying.

1:03:38

It's a long time at somebody fifty eight

1:03:40

years old. So I like the two minute round. But if

1:03:42

if Mike get fatigued, Jake

1:03:46

j gonna have some moments, man, because he gonna try to line

1:03:48

Mike up. I'm telling you, gonna try to line Mike up.

1:03:50

Now. I think with Mike is don't let it happen.

1:03:53

I hit a punches back for three minutes

1:03:55

or twelve rounds with nobody throwing punches at me, and

1:03:57

I'm on life support, so I can imagine

1:03:59

somebody trying to punch at you.

1:04:01

Yeah, but they don't add any of though, gotta

1:04:04

add in that crowd, that pressure,

1:04:06

that stuff sapping.

1:04:06

Your adrenaline before you throw a punch.

1:04:09

But Mike know how to manage He's been doing it, you know, for a

1:04:11

long time. And that's that's what made y'all know this in

1:04:13

your respective sports. Is just managing that

1:04:16

you're afraid, Nah, I feel fear. I ain't afraid,

1:04:18

but I know how to manage it. You feel

1:04:20

the pressure, yeah, I know how to manage it. So I think Mike

1:04:22

still know how to manage that state. Mike Tyson right,

1:04:25

it's a show everywhere you go. But he

1:04:27

just can't get tired, man, because that's going bolden, you

1:04:30

know, Jake pouter thing.

1:04:32

Jake's gonna have to dodge a lot of punches before

1:04:34

Mike gets tired.

1:04:36

You know what I mean.

1:04:37

Mike gonna throw a lot of if you're gonna get tired because

1:04:39

he's throwing a lot of punches, and Deak's gonna have to take those

1:04:41

and dodge those, and good luck

1:04:44

with that ship.

1:04:45

Final predictions, Fellas, what do we got? Start

1:04:48

with? You? Jack? What you got?

1:04:52

I I just don't want to see Mike get

1:04:54

beat. I don't care how it happened. I just don't

1:04:56

want to see him geting. But there's a little bit of that that that's

1:04:58

I think that's what makes it so grated. I cried

1:05:00

last time Mike got knocked out my brother Douglas, and

1:05:02

I you know what I'm saying, I don't want to see that, bro I got that's

1:05:04

one of my favorite people in the world. I don't

1:05:06

want to see that. I love Jake because I love that. I

1:05:09

love Jake as the hustler, the hustler is.

1:05:11

I admire that. I admire that ship today,

1:05:14

but I don't want him to beat Mike.

1:05:15

Please, Roy thoughts,

1:05:17

I'm kind of the same man.

1:05:19

I don't want to see him beat Mike either, because

1:05:22

I'm a Mic fan too.

1:05:23

Uh. But it's a possibility.

1:05:26

It is a possibility that happening. But I

1:05:28

don't think there's no chance.

1:05:31

I'm right with with Mike regardless. Man, you

1:05:34

know, but I'm gonna feel away if

1:05:36

it goes bad. I'm telling you.

1:05:39

To get regulate.

1:05:42

You don't get if he beats Mike.

1:05:44

Tyson sounds like he ain't gotta why about Canelo.

1:05:47

Don't worry about It's funny right there,

1:05:49

because I don't come off that death have a word,

1:05:52

gonnareciate that that's.

1:05:53

Could be the next fight right there.

1:05:55

So if Jake Mike, he's

1:05:57

gonna have to see Drake.

1:05:59

I respect my l this man, I ain't trying to

1:06:01

see that.

1:06:02

It's already in the works. Now I'm flame, but man,

1:06:04

thank you guys for obviously joining us. Welcome

1:06:07

both you guys. We appreciate your time. We hope

1:06:09

you guys enjoyed the first of many artist

1:06:12

smoke with myself, my brother stack

1:06:14

Roy, and Andre Man. Thank

1:06:17

you to Netflix and DraftKings, and

1:06:19

we hope you guys enjoyed the fight.