Esprit de core

Esprit de core

Released Monday, 17th February 2025
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0:00

Hello

0:03

everybody

0:06

welcome

0:09

to

0:11

the

0:14

Basu

0:17

and

0:19

Gai

0:22

notebook

0:25

this

0:27

Monday.

0:30

are live from Boston for the

0:32

second half of the four of

0:34

the nation's face-offs. So

0:37

far it's a fun tournament. I

0:39

think it's been fantastic

0:41

and honestly like it's, you

0:43

know, we have a tendency in

0:45

hockey to just kind of

0:47

poo-poo things. We're very poo-poo-poo-y

0:49

people. It's hard to

0:51

say, but you know, everyone's, oh,

0:53

it's made up and this, you

0:56

know, it's always like complaining. It

0:58

happened the last World Cup.

1:00

constant complaint. Oh, team Europe and

1:03

all of team North America. It's all

1:05

made up. Well, team North America turned

1:07

into like this iconic creation that

1:09

everyone adored and and this thing

1:11

fine. It's not perfect. It's not

1:13

best on best. It's not all the

1:15

play. Not all the best players are

1:18

here, but it's still the best players

1:20

from these four countries playing against each

1:22

other. It's fantastic. And so I

1:24

just wish people would give things

1:26

a chance every now and then.

1:28

You know, it's like, who didn't

1:30

love Canada USA on Saturday night?

1:33

It's like, it's just, it was

1:35

great, great theater at the Bell

1:37

Center. Honestly, the best national

1:40

anthem I've heard in that building ever.

1:42

Yeah. I've never, I mean, we've heard

1:44

it booed in that building, you know,

1:46

so it's like, it was not booed.

1:49

The other anthem was booed, of course,

1:51

but not that one. But I mean,

1:53

that's one of the great

1:56

games that buildings ever

1:58

hosted. Yeah, honestly. That's

2:00

a fair point. So the

2:02

Montreal Canadians will be back

2:04

practicing tomorrow. So there's going

2:06

to be a lot more

2:08

to discuss on the Montreal

2:11

Canadians front very soon. For

2:13

the time being, we decided

2:15

that for this episode, we

2:17

would go heavily on the

2:19

mailbag because it was an

2:21

opportunity for our subscribers to

2:23

send us a ton of

2:25

questions. So we will get

2:27

to that shortly, but since

2:29

we're at the Four Nations

2:32

tournament. It's interesting to wonder

2:34

if guys like Suzuki or

2:36

Coffee, had they been selected

2:38

for that tournament, how do

2:40

you think they would fare,

2:42

you know, on their respective

2:44

teams? Do you see, for

2:46

example, a guy like Nick

2:48

Suzuki doing better or having

2:51

a more effective role than

2:53

any of the guys, any

2:55

of the forwards that are

2:57

playing for Canada right now?

3:01

I think Canada's issue at this

3:03

tournament and we'll see how they

3:05

approach it for the Olympics, but

3:07

Saturday night, listen I know Sydney

3:09

Crosby's injured, but there's three Golden

3:12

Generation guys, said Drew Doughty, Brad

3:14

Marchhan, all looked old. I mean,

3:16

since playing with one arm and

3:18

he had a tremendous game against.

3:21

against, why don't we get Sweden,

3:23

but those three guys look like

3:25

it was it was tough keeping

3:27

up and and all of them

3:30

have mitigating, well except for Martian,

3:32

Martian's mitigating circumstances that his season

3:34

has been rough in general. Drew

3:36

Doughty is just coming back from

3:39

injury, Sid is injured, so but

3:41

it's it's interesting that you know

3:43

Brock Nelson is basically the only

3:45

kind of older guy the US

3:47

took. and So when I look

3:50

at those three guys, and you

3:52

know, everyone looked at Seth Jarvis,

3:54

I think Seth Jarvis has been

3:56

pretty good, frankly. I mean, I

3:59

didn't think he's been, but he's

4:01

not, he's not, he doesn't have

4:03

much of a role. Like, if

4:05

Nick Suzuki were to play on

4:08

Team Canada, I'm not sure, you

4:10

know, John Cooper is a big

4:12

fan of his, he's always admired

4:14

his game, he's always spoken highly

4:17

of highly of it. I don't

4:19

know how big of a role

4:21

he would have had on this

4:23

team, especially with the lack of

4:25

penalties, especially with the lack of

4:28

penalties, especially with the lack of

4:30

penalties. Yeah, like I could see

4:32

him being a penalty killer for

4:34

this team, but there's the penalties

4:37

have been non-factor, you know, special

4:39

teams have not really been all

4:41

that important. So I would have

4:43

a tough, I would have a

4:46

tough time seeing Nixozuki playing a

4:48

significant role and for the same

4:50

reason I would have, I don't

4:52

think, even regardless of special teams,

4:54

I don't think Cole Coughfield had

4:57

a role to play on team

4:59

USA, the way their wingers are

5:01

playing in this tournament. Yeah, I

5:03

think though the. The style of

5:06

play of Suzuki is, seems to

5:08

be fitting pretty well with the

5:10

way Canada plays and you look

5:12

at the number of guys who

5:15

are really effective on both sides

5:17

of the ice, who are really

5:19

responsible defensively. It's been a real

5:21

focus on that team in the

5:24

way that they built it. When

5:26

you look at Reinhart, Marner Point,

5:28

you mentioned Jarvis, but Stone. Stone,

5:30

obviously, Hegel, all of them. There's

5:32

such a good team defensively and

5:35

arguably it's probably a facet of

5:37

the American team that was a

5:39

little bit underestimated, but you see

5:41

a guy like Austin Matthews might

5:44

not have done a whole lot

5:46

offensively, but defensively he really impressed

5:48

against Canada. So I think that

5:50

Suzuki would fit well there. There's

5:53

an opening. There might be a

5:55

couple of openings for... for the

5:57

Olympics next year. for a couple

5:59

of those guys. You mentioned Radmachshan.

6:02

I think this is the this

6:04

is the tournament that will Show

6:06

that there will be better options

6:08

than him in the future and

6:10

It will be a matter of

6:13

saying well who's going to be

6:15

the best candidate for that because

6:17

yes Suzuki Shifley have been left

6:19

off and so has Robert Thomas

6:22

But very soon you'll have Selabrini

6:24

and Bedal knocking at the door

6:26

too. I think they'll be at

6:28

the Olympics. I think those two

6:31

guys will be at the Olympics.

6:33

So it gets even harder in

6:35

many ways because most of the

6:37

team here will be in Milan.

6:40

And then you have to work

6:42

Selabrini and Bedard into it. It's

6:44

going to be hard. It's going

6:46

to be hard. I mean, Nick's

6:48

got to. The thing with Nick

6:51

is, you know, you know, we've

6:53

always. Montreal the market has been

6:55

obsessed with this notion of a

6:57

point of game player. Nick is

7:00

now a point of game player

7:02

but a point of game player

7:04

doesn't cut it anymore. I mean

7:06

that's it like it's it's yes

7:09

it's good it's very good even

7:11

but it used to be if

7:13

you were a point of game

7:15

player you were a top 15

7:18

score in the league. You're not

7:20

even close to top 15 at

7:22

a point of game anymore. So

7:24

it's like it's it's the the

7:26

the the the math has changed

7:29

in that regard in that regard.

7:31

Now I think if Nick Suzuki

7:33

is a point of game player.

7:35

or becomes like a 90 point

7:38

player, you know, that's fantastic. Like

7:40

with everything he does and is

7:42

all around game, that makes him

7:44

a very, very effective player, but

7:47

it doesn't get him into the

7:49

upper crust where he becomes a

7:51

no-douter member of Team Canada. Like

7:53

he's gonna have to go up

7:56

a tier, basically, to become, you

7:58

know, indispensable for Canada because... He's

8:00

all around game makes him an

8:02

attractive option. But I really, A,

8:04

I don't think he did himself

8:07

any favors by skipping the world

8:09

championships last year and B, he's

8:11

not. he's not a he doesn't

8:13

he doesn't stand out you know

8:16

in the sense like the Canada

8:18

has a lot of two-way scoring

8:20

options that produce at the same

8:22

level or better than what Nick

8:25

Suzuki does and so if he

8:27

wants to be in Milan he

8:29

really needs to use to on

8:31

another gear yeah Among all the

8:34

players who have played at least

8:36

35 games, so we'll include Alex

8:38

of Echekin in that threshold because

8:40

he played with something like 38

8:42

39 something like that There's 30

8:45

there's 39 players. Yeah, who are

8:47

point per game guys So it's

8:49

pretty it's yeah, it's it's it's

8:51

great. But it's 35th in the

8:54

league of scoring right now. Yeah,

8:56

52 points is tied for 34th

8:58

And Kirill Kaprizov has played only

9:00

37 games. So it's like. Yeah.

9:03

And as for, as for, as

9:05

for, as for a coffee, it's,

9:07

it's probably, it's not, it's a

9:09

different type of difficulty, but you

9:12

look at how, I mean, Baldy

9:14

has not played a ton, he

9:16

has not really popped out, he

9:18

would be probably his main competition

9:20

for a tournament like that. Not

9:23

sure if the US have the

9:25

same sort of young reinforcements coming

9:27

up. the same way that Canada

9:29

will be able to count on

9:32

Bedale and celebrate any soon. But

9:34

again, he will be for better

9:36

or for worse, even though his

9:38

overall game, I think has greatly

9:41

improved. I'm not sure he's done

9:43

enough to show to the US

9:45

that he's going to be more

9:47

than a specialist for them. Well,

9:50

I mean, in terms of just

9:52

goal scores. You know, the

9:54

US did not bring Tage Thompson and

9:56

did not bring out spring camp. So

9:59

you have. He has competition for guys

10:01

that did not make the team. And

10:03

Brock, Matthew Nise is a young guy

10:06

who could play himself into that conversation

10:08

at some point. But yeah, I mean,

10:10

the team they have here is looking

10:13

pretty close to the, I mean, you

10:15

know, I think Brock Nelson is kind

10:17

of the Brad Marchand guy on their

10:19

team in the sense of he. might

10:22

not be in Milan and frankly has

10:24

has stood out for the wrong reasons

10:26

in this tournament and I think that

10:29

might have been a mistake bringing him

10:31

but you know this is yeah this

10:33

is Josh Norris is another guy who

10:36

could maybe play himself into the conversation

10:38

Brock Besser's not here there's a lot

10:40

of guys and so yeah I think

10:43

well to me Paige Thompson is the

10:45

big one and frankly probably should be

10:47

here instead of Brock Nelson you know

10:50

it's that's He's good enough to be

10:52

on this team right now. But I

10:54

think Cole in the same way, like

10:57

he's going to have to become like

10:59

really a top end score, like a

11:01

50 goal score. Like, well, he might

11:04

be close to 40 this year. And

11:06

it's, you know, you mentioned the Brinkett.

11:08

Well, heck, right now I take coffee

11:10

a little over the Brinkett. I take

11:13

coffee all over Besser. I don't take

11:15

coffee all over Tage Thompson, but they're

11:17

playing different. skill sets and different attributes

11:20

obviously. But the thing is they have,

11:22

they have Gansle, right? Yeah. Like, and

11:24

Gansle kind of is just a better

11:27

version of Caulfield, right? Like he just,

11:29

he's their, he's their scorer guy. He's

11:31

kind of their smallish, have a neck

11:34

for scoring guy. You can't have, like,

11:36

I know it sounds silly, but you

11:38

can't have too many of those types

11:41

of guys where it's just. Your primary

11:43

job is to score and you don't

11:45

really do a whole lot. else. You

11:48

know, like it's, it's, it's, and

11:50

not say that to say

11:52

Edsel a one -dimensional

11:55

player, but I mean,

11:57

that's kind of,

11:59

that's kind of his,

12:01

his of, on this

12:04

team on is that,

12:06

is, you know, like

12:08

you know, like, same for Kaikana. Same

12:11

for Kyle Conner.

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