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Hello
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everybody
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welcome
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to
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the
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Basu
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and
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Gai
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notebook
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this
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Monday.
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are live from Boston for the
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second half of the four of
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the nation's face-offs. So
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far it's a fun tournament. I
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think it's been fantastic
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and honestly like it's, you
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know, we have a tendency in
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hockey to just kind of
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poo-poo things. We're very poo-poo-poo-y
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people. It's hard to
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say, but you know, everyone's, oh,
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it's made up and this, you
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know, it's always like complaining. It
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happened the last World Cup.
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constant complaint. Oh, team Europe and
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all of team North America. It's all
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made up. Well, team North America turned
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into like this iconic creation that
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everyone adored and and this thing
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fine. It's not perfect. It's not
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best on best. It's not all the
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play. Not all the best players are
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here, but it's still the best players
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from these four countries playing against each
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other. It's fantastic. And so I
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just wish people would give things
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a chance every now and then.
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You know, it's like, who didn't
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love Canada USA on Saturday night?
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It's like, it's just, it was
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great, great theater at the Bell
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Center. Honestly, the best national
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anthem I've heard in that building ever.
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Yeah. I've never, I mean, we've heard
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it booed in that building, you know,
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so it's like, it was not booed.
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The other anthem was booed, of course,
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but not that one. But I mean,
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that's one of the great
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games that buildings ever
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hosted. Yeah, honestly. That's
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a fair point. So the
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Montreal Canadians will be back
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practicing tomorrow. So there's going
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to be a lot more
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to discuss on the Montreal
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Canadians front very soon. For
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the time being, we decided
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that for this episode, we
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would go heavily on the
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mailbag because it was an
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opportunity for our subscribers to
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send us a ton of
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questions. So we will get
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to that shortly, but since
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we're at the Four Nations
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tournament. It's interesting to wonder
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if guys like Suzuki or
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Coffee, had they been selected
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for that tournament, how do
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you think they would fare,
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you know, on their respective
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teams? Do you see, for
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example, a guy like Nick
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Suzuki doing better or having
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a more effective role than
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any of the guys, any
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of the forwards that are
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playing for Canada right now?
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I think Canada's issue at this
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tournament and we'll see how they
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approach it for the Olympics, but
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Saturday night, listen I know Sydney
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Crosby's injured, but there's three Golden
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Generation guys, said Drew Doughty, Brad
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Marchhan, all looked old. I mean,
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since playing with one arm and
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he had a tremendous game against.
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against, why don't we get Sweden,
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but those three guys look like
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it was it was tough keeping
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up and and all of them
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have mitigating, well except for Martian,
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Martian's mitigating circumstances that his season
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has been rough in general. Drew
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Doughty is just coming back from
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injury, Sid is injured, so but
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it's it's interesting that you know
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Brock Nelson is basically the only
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kind of older guy the US
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took. and So when I look
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at those three guys, and you
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know, everyone looked at Seth Jarvis,
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I think Seth Jarvis has been
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pretty good, frankly. I mean, I
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didn't think he's been, but he's
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not, he's not, he doesn't have
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much of a role. Like, if
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Nick Suzuki were to play on
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Team Canada, I'm not sure, you
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know, John Cooper is a big
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fan of his, he's always admired
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his game, he's always spoken highly
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of highly of it. I don't
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know how big of a role
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he would have had on this
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team, especially with the lack of
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penalties, especially with the lack of
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penalties, especially with the lack of
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penalties. Yeah, like I could see
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him being a penalty killer for
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this team, but there's the penalties
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have been non-factor, you know, special
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teams have not really been all
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that important. So I would have
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a tough, I would have a
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tough time seeing Nixozuki playing a
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significant role and for the same
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reason I would have, I don't
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think, even regardless of special teams,
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I don't think Cole Coughfield had
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a role to play on team
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USA, the way their wingers are
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playing in this tournament. Yeah, I
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think though the. The style of
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play of Suzuki is, seems to
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be fitting pretty well with the
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way Canada plays and you look
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at the number of guys who
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are really effective on both sides
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of the ice, who are really
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responsible defensively. It's been a real
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focus on that team in the
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way that they built it. When
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you look at Reinhart, Marner Point,
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you mentioned Jarvis, but Stone. Stone,
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obviously, Hegel, all of them. There's
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such a good team defensively and
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arguably it's probably a facet of
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the American team that was a
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little bit underestimated, but you see
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a guy like Austin Matthews might
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not have done a whole lot
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offensively, but defensively he really impressed
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against Canada. So I think that
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Suzuki would fit well there. There's
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an opening. There might be a
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couple of openings for... for the
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Olympics next year. for a couple
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of those guys. You mentioned Radmachshan.
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I think this is the this
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is the tournament that will Show
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that there will be better options
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than him in the future and
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It will be a matter of
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saying well who's going to be
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the best candidate for that because
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yes Suzuki Shifley have been left
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off and so has Robert Thomas
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But very soon you'll have Selabrini
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and Bedal knocking at the door
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too. I think they'll be at
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the Olympics. I think those two
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guys will be at the Olympics.
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So it gets even harder in
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many ways because most of the
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team here will be in Milan.
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And then you have to work
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Selabrini and Bedard into it. It's
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going to be hard. It's going
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to be hard. I mean, Nick's
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got to. The thing with Nick
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is, you know, you know, we've
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always. Montreal the market has been
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obsessed with this notion of a
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point of game player. Nick is
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now a point of game player
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but a point of game player
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doesn't cut it anymore. I mean
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that's it like it's it's yes
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it's good it's very good even
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but it used to be if
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you were a point of game
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player you were a top 15
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score in the league. You're not
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even close to top 15 at
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a point of game anymore. So
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it's like it's it's the the
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the the the math has changed
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in that regard in that regard.
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Now I think if Nick Suzuki
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is a point of game player.
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or becomes like a 90 point
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player, you know, that's fantastic. Like
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with everything he does and is
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all around game, that makes him
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a very, very effective player, but
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it doesn't get him into the
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upper crust where he becomes a
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no-douter member of Team Canada. Like
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he's gonna have to go up
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a tier, basically, to become, you
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know, indispensable for Canada because... He's
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all around game makes him an
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attractive option. But I really, A,
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I don't think he did himself
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any favors by skipping the world
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championships last year and B, he's
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not. he's not a he doesn't
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he doesn't stand out you know
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in the sense like the Canada
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has a lot of two-way scoring
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options that produce at the same
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level or better than what Nick
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Suzuki does and so if he
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wants to be in Milan he
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really needs to use to on
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another gear yeah Among all the
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players who have played at least
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35 games, so we'll include Alex
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of Echekin in that threshold because
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he played with something like 38
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39 something like that There's 30
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there's 39 players. Yeah, who are
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point per game guys So it's
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pretty it's yeah, it's it's it's
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great. But it's 35th in the
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league of scoring right now. Yeah,
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52 points is tied for 34th
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And Kirill Kaprizov has played only
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37 games. So it's like. Yeah.
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And as for, as for, as
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for, as for a coffee, it's,
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it's probably, it's not, it's a
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different type of difficulty, but you
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look at how, I mean, Baldy
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has not played a ton, he
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has not really popped out, he
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would be probably his main competition
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for a tournament like that. Not
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sure if the US have the
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same sort of young reinforcements coming
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up. the same way that Canada
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will be able to count on
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Bedale and celebrate any soon. But
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again, he will be for better
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or for worse, even though his
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overall game, I think has greatly
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improved. I'm not sure he's done
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enough to show to the US
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that he's going to be more
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than a specialist for them. Well,
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I mean, in terms of just
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goal scores. You know, the
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US did not bring Tage Thompson and
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did not bring out spring camp. So
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you have. He has competition for guys
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that did not make the team. And
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Brock, Matthew Nise is a young guy
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who could play himself into that conversation
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at some point. But yeah, I mean,
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the team they have here is looking
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pretty close to the, I mean, you
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know, I think Brock Nelson is kind
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of the Brad Marchand guy on their
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team in the sense of he. might
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not be in Milan and frankly has
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has stood out for the wrong reasons
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in this tournament and I think that
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might have been a mistake bringing him
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but you know this is yeah this
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is Josh Norris is another guy who
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could maybe play himself into the conversation
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Brock Besser's not here there's a lot
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of guys and so yeah I think
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well to me Paige Thompson is the
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big one and frankly probably should be
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here instead of Brock Nelson you know
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it's that's He's good enough to be
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on this team right now. But I
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think Cole in the same way, like
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he's going to have to become like
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really a top end score, like a
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50 goal score. Like, well, he might
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be close to 40 this year. And
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it's, you know, you mentioned the Brinkett.
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Well, heck, right now I take coffee
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a little over the Brinkett. I take
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coffee all over Besser. I don't take
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coffee all over Tage Thompson, but they're
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playing different. skill sets and different attributes
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obviously. But the thing is they have,
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they have Gansle, right? Yeah. Like, and
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Gansle kind of is just a better
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version of Caulfield, right? Like he just,
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he's their, he's their scorer guy. He's
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kind of their smallish, have a neck
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for scoring guy. You can't have, like,
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I know it sounds silly, but you
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can't have too many of those types
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of guys where it's just. Your primary
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job is to score and you don't
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really do a whole lot. else. You
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know, like it's, it's, it's, and
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not say that to say
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Edsel a one -dimensional
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player, but I mean,
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that's kind of,
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that's kind of his,
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his of, on this
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team on is that,
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is, you know, like
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you know, like, same for Kaikana. Same
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for Kyle Conner.
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