Ep. 2164 - The Democrats’ 2028 Frontrunner Is…AOC?!

Ep. 2164 - The Democrats’ 2028 Frontrunner Is…AOC?!

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Ep. 2164 - The Democrats’ 2028 Frontrunner Is…AOC?!

Ep. 2164 - The Democrats’ 2028 Frontrunner Is…AOC?!

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0:00

Folks, huge news happening over the weekend,

0:02

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now at dailywire.com/subscribe. Well Democrats have

0:35

a serious problem. President Trump's

0:37

approval ratings maintain their status.

0:39

He's somewhere close to 50% which is

0:41

higher than he has been nearly in

0:43

his entire political career. His main policies

0:45

are quite popular ranging from crackdowns

0:47

on illegal immigration, which is a very popular

0:50

position, to even his positions with regard to

0:52

doge. Again, most Americans are into cutting waste,

0:54

fraud, and abuse. And Democrats really don't know

0:56

how to deal with it. And Democrats

0:58

who spend at least a moment in the real world know

1:00

this. So Bill Maher, with whom I am friendly, but

1:03

Bill is definitely a Democrat. He is not

1:05

a Republican. Mara is on his show on

1:07

Friday night, real time, on HBO. And there

1:09

he was mocking the Democrats over their absolute

1:11

incompetence over their absolute incompetence. This

1:14

state has almost 400,000 regulations.

1:16

I just put in a

1:19

new roof because the fire,

1:21

I thought, oh, let's get

1:23

a roof that's not going

1:25

to burn up. Two inspections.

1:28

Why are you inspecting my roof?

1:30

It's my roof. If it

1:32

falls on me, that's my

1:34

problem. And we're taxed more

1:37

than any other state. People

1:39

are leaving these kind of states

1:41

for places where they're not, they

1:43

feel the heavy breath of government

1:45

on them. It's just, it's not

1:47

that hard for Democrats to understand

1:49

this, but they seem to be

1:51

incapable of doing anything about it.

1:53

Mar, of course, is totally correct

1:56

about this, and if you follow people's revealed

1:58

preferences. Not what they say they like, but

2:00

what they actually like. The feet are moving

2:02

south. The feet are moving from blue to

2:04

red. It would be my family, be my

2:07

company. And people are literally moving from blue

2:09

areas to red areas because red areas are

2:11

better to live. Charlemagne, the God, the radio

2:13

host, he says that the Democratic Party at

2:15

this point is trashed. If you're a Democrat,

2:17

I'm going to tell you the worst thing

2:20

that you could do right now. Speak for

2:22

that. party. Okay, that party's brand

2:24

is in such disarray. They have

2:26

no ideology. The people that are

2:29

actually governing like the Joshua Perros,

2:31

the Gretchen witness, the Westmores, y'all

2:33

stay in y'all states and keep

2:36

governing and doing the work. That's

2:38

it. Distance yourself from all that's

2:40

going on in DC. Distance yourself

2:43

from the party and speak for

2:45

you. He, by the way, is right that

2:47

the party is totally toxic. I mean,

2:49

he's wrong to cite Westmore and Gretchen

2:51

Whitmer as examples of people who are

2:53

doing an amazing job. But the reality

2:55

is that Democrats have misgoverned at nearly every

2:57

level of government. The Waller Journal has

3:00

a piece over the weekend talking about

3:02

the failures of Los Angeles, my old

3:04

home city, quote, the Democratic mismanagement of

3:07

America's big cities becoming a liability for

3:09

the party. A shining example is Los

3:11

Angeles, where city leaders this week announced

3:14

a $1 billion. City administrative officer Matthew

3:16

Jabo told the council on Wednesday this

3:18

year's extraordinary shortfall could necessitate thousands of

3:21

layoffs. Mayor Karen Bass blamed the recent

3:23

wildfires extreme uncertainty in terms of federal

3:25

funding and downward national economic trends in

3:27

other words blaming Trump. The reality is that

3:30

the city's fiscal problems have been building up

3:32

like dry tinder and Miss Bass has made them

3:34

worse. And this of course is exactly right. Apparently

3:36

LA's unemployment rate in December was 6% that

3:38

is higher than any state and even Puerto

3:40

Rico. High taxes, burdensome regulations, the

3:43

city's 1728 an hour minimum

3:45

wage, litigation abuse, shoplifting, another

3:47

crime, raise business costs, and

3:49

insurance premiums, litigation abuses, busting

3:51

the city's budget, payouts totaled

3:53

$240 million in the last

3:55

fiscal year alone. The city of Los

3:58

Angeles is collapsing from within. So what

4:00

are Democrats to do? Because their governance

4:02

is really, really poor. And President Trump

4:04

is moving incredibly fast, and it's very

4:06

difficult for them to figure out what

4:08

is the point of differentiation. Where do

4:10

they want to put their chips? Where

4:12

is going to put their chips? Where

4:14

is going to be the line of

4:16

attack that they can use against President

4:18

Trump and Republicans? And so Democrats are

4:21

going to have to define exactly what

4:23

they are. Now, there is a rule

4:25

that has been put forward by the

4:27

political commentator, another one of my friends

4:29

Matt Cotton Matt Cottonetti, which I think

4:31

is exactly right. If you're trying to

4:33

scope out the future candidates of any

4:35

party, the going rule for the last

4:37

several decades has been that the successful

4:39

candidate, the successful presidential candidate, first runs

4:41

against his or her own party and

4:43

then runs for the presidency. So President

4:45

Trump's an excellent example of this. He

4:47

came in 2016. He ran against every

4:49

aspect of the Republican Party. He broke

4:51

the Republican Party and then he took

4:54

the presidency. And then won. And so

4:56

if you're looking at the Democratic Party

4:58

right now, what exactly is the Democratic

5:00

Party? Now there are a few angles

5:02

they could take. There are a few

5:04

angles that could be taken to take

5:06

over the Democratic Party. Angle number one

5:08

would be the better administrative angle. This

5:10

would be the Bill Maher angle, or

5:12

say the Ezra Klein, Derek Thompson angle

5:14

in their new book, Abundance, which is

5:16

a book basically about how Democrats ought

5:18

to suggest that government actually is good

5:20

at certain things and then should get

5:22

a lot of regulations out of the

5:24

way so government can... build the Hoover

5:26

Dam again, or government can build affordable

5:29

housing without any of the environmental regulations,

5:31

or build a bullet train, or whatever

5:33

it is. Now they can make that

5:35

case, I think that case is relatively

5:37

unsuccessful, but they could say, listen, we're

5:39

good at administration. The problem is Democrats

5:41

have a very bad record of administration,

5:43

as demonstrated by places like New York,

5:45

places like Chicago, places like Los Angeles,

5:47

or Detroit. So that's problem number one.

5:49

Problem number two is that most of

5:51

the Democrat hardcore hardcore cares more deeply.

5:53

about the quote-unquote moral issues in the

5:55

country rather than just being good at

5:57

administering They don't understand that being a

5:59

good administrator on the local or state

6:02

level actually does have a moral component

6:04

because if you wish to, for example,

6:06

alleviate poverty, one of the best ways

6:08

to do that is to provide a

6:10

stable and useful local government. But Democrats

6:12

have stopped believing that, at least the

6:14

primary voting Democrats. And so now they

6:16

are left with a couple of other

6:18

angles. One is the sort of DEI

6:20

angle. That would be the idea that

6:22

the Democratic Party stands for diversity. That

6:24

really what the Democratic Party is about.

6:26

is resentering the marginalized. This would be

6:28

the elevation of Kamala Harris, for example.

6:30

This would be the attempt to elevate

6:32

candidates of color at the expense of

6:34

other candidates who might be better qualified,

6:37

or by the way, elevating people like

6:39

Pete Buttigieg on the basis of his

6:41

sexual orientation to a presidential candidacy. Not

6:43

because he was good at fixing potholes

6:45

in South Bend, he was not, but

6:47

because he's gay. That would be the

6:49

DEA Democrats, and that's certainly an angle,

6:51

and there's a lot of support. for

6:53

that inside the Democratic Party. The problem

6:55

is that's the angle they've been taking

6:57

and it has been failing. Democrats may

6:59

double down on stupid if they do

7:01

they are unlikely to win back the

7:03

presidency. According to a brand new poll

7:05

from morning consult, Kamala right now has

7:07

the support of 36% of Democrat primary

7:10

voters. Next in line is Buttigieg, who's

7:12

a 10% support. No other candidate on

7:14

the list received double-digit support in early

7:16

primary polling. Tim Walsh, AOC. AOC. and

7:18

Gavin Newsom each have 5% support, billionaire

7:20

Mark Cuban, and Governor Josh Shapiro each

7:22

have 4% backing. So, part of that

7:24

is going to be name recognition. Obviously,

7:26

Kamal Harris is very high-name recognition. She

7:28

was the last Democratic presidential candidate, even

7:30

if she lost to President Trump. So

7:32

maybe it's that, or maybe it's the

7:34

Democrats who are trying to double down

7:36

on DEAI. That seems like that is

7:38

likely to be an unsuccessful angle. However,

7:40

however, they also cannot go back to

7:42

sort of establishment... has failed the Democratic

7:45

Party and they know it, which is

7:47

why Chuck Schumer is under serious fire

7:49

right now. Chuck Schumer was making his

7:51

pitch for why he should continue to

7:53

be sort of the leader of the

7:55

Democratic Congressional contingent on Meet the press

7:57

over the weekend, and it is just

7:59

lackluster stuff and our caucus is united

8:01

in Fighting Donald Trump every step of

8:03

the way Our goal our plan which

8:05

we're united on is to make Donald

8:07

Trump the quickest lame duck in modern

8:09

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8:11

are He represents the oligarchs, as I

8:13

said. He's hurting average people in every

8:15

way. And we are, through oversight hearings,

8:18

we're exposing what he's doing, through the

8:20

courts, which I mentioned, we've had some

8:22

real success in, through legislation, and through

8:24

organizing in all the districts throughout the

8:26

country. Okay, so, does that inspire? The

8:28

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8:30

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8:32

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8:34

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11:21

with? Democrats are basically left with the

11:23

Bernie Sanders wing. Bernie Sanders led an

11:25

insurgency originally against Hillary, Bernie Sanders led

11:27

an insurgency originally against Hillary Clinton in

11:29

2016, which wounded her for the general

11:31

election. Then of course, he ran again

11:33

in 2020 and really threatened to take

11:35

over the party until Joe Biden and

11:37

the Democratic establishment mobilized Jim Clyburn and

11:39

the heavily black. Democrat electoral base against

11:41

Bernie Sanders. And then, of course, he

11:44

didn't run in 2024 because there was

11:46

an incumbent, but he was very critical

11:48

of Joe Biden for at least part

11:50

of that race. And now he's outpouring

11:52

the country. The Bernie Sanders energy, Bernie's

11:54

too old, he's not going to be

11:56

the guy. But the Bernie Sanders energy

11:58

is the insurgent energy inside the Democratic

12:00

Party is not a sort of administrative

12:02

liberalism that is effective in its approach.

12:04

It is full-scale class warfare. DEI is

12:06

played out. And so they're going back

12:08

from race Marxism or sex Marxism back

12:10

to like the... original Marxism. This is

12:12

the direction of the Democratic Party. This

12:14

is where the energy is. And this

12:17

is exactly what the Trump administration should

12:19

be concerned about. Not in that Bernie

12:21

Sanders and the AOC wing of the

12:23

party are going to defeat Donald Trump,

12:25

but if the Trump administration fails, why

12:27

the Trump administration has to be very

12:29

good at what it does. If they

12:31

fail, the next thing up on the

12:33

Democratic side of the aisle is Bernie.

12:35

And whoever Bernie taps on the shoulder,

12:37

because it's not going to be Bernie

12:39

personally. Over in Tempe, Arizona, tens of

12:41

thousands of people showed up at a

12:43

rally for Bernie Sanders. Now again, big

12:45

rallies are not a proxy for success.

12:47

Mitt Romney held big rallies in 2012

12:49

and then lost to Barack Obama. But

12:52

right now, Democrats can't draw flies. Democrats

12:54

are toxic. Bernie Sanders is going around

12:56

and holding rallies, and literally tens of

12:58

thousands of people are showing up. He's

13:00

an 83-year-old lifelong useless leech on the

13:02

ass of society. and tens of thousands

13:04

of people are showing up to hear

13:06

him, and to hear AOC with whom

13:08

he is campaigning. So here's Bernie in

13:10

Tempe, Arizona. If we stand together, we

13:12

can not only defeat Trumpism, but we

13:14

can create the kind of great nation

13:16

we know that we can become. Thank

13:18

you all very much. A packed house

13:20

at Molot Arena listened as Sanders and

13:22

AOC underscored the need to come together

13:25

and be united to fight against a

13:27

Republican-controlled Congress and president. Okay, so again,

13:29

this is sort of fight oligarchy. There

13:31

is a class of people who are

13:33

running the country and they're evil and

13:35

they're rich and we need to tear

13:37

them down to the ground. It runs

13:39

in direct opposition to exactly the sort

13:41

of abundance Democrat mentality pushed by Ezra

13:43

Klein or pushed by Derek Thompson. But

13:45

it is the thing that Democrats are

13:47

animated by. Originally, according to the Wall

13:49

Street Journal, when visiting Omaha, Nebraska, AOC

13:51

and Bernie reserved a place that held

13:53

800 people, then they had to move

13:55

to a bigger venue of 3,400. And

13:57

then when they went to Tempe, 15,000

14:00

people showed up. And Bernie said this

14:02

is insane, I'm not running for anything.

14:04

People are outraged and they're frightened and

14:06

they want to fight back. And this

14:08

is one form of beginning the struggle

14:10

to fight back. And it is not

14:12

a coincidence that Bernie is tapping AOC

14:14

on the shoulder. AOC of course has

14:16

a very young, very woke, very socialistic

14:18

contingency who follows her. Sanders is taking

14:20

a really interesting approach. Again, he's wrong

14:22

and his perspective on capitalism is not

14:24

just wrong, it happens to be evil,

14:26

but... It is an interesting approach. He's

14:28

abandoning certain issues that are sort of

14:30

tentpole Democrat issues right now, and he's

14:33

focusing instead on pure class warfare, pure

14:35

unbridled Eugene V. Deb's class warfare. He's

14:37

an old-school wobbly, Bernie Sanders. So for

14:39

example, when it came to the border

14:41

over the weekend, Bernie was interviewed, and

14:43

he said that Trump was actually right

14:45

about the border. Now this is a

14:47

switch in time for Bernie. So if

14:49

you remember, all the way back to

14:51

2016 when he was running against Hillary.

14:53

He understands, this is correct, that you

14:55

cannot have both socialism and an open

14:57

border. It doesn't work that way. So

14:59

now, he's reverting back to type. He's

15:01

going back to a sort of protectionist

15:03

socialism, which does involve actually closing the

15:05

border. This is where the horseshoe theory

15:08

comes all the way around for people

15:10

like Bernie. I mean, I think cracking

15:12

down on fentanyl, making sure our borders

15:14

are stronger. Nobody thinks a legal immigration

15:16

is appropriate. And I think we need

15:18

comprehensive immigration reform. But I don't think

15:20

it's appropriate for people to be coming

15:22

across the border illegally. Okay, so again,

15:24

that is Bernie saying that Trump is

15:26

basically right on the border, why he's

15:28

abandoning the worst issues for the Democrats.

15:30

Immigration is a bad issue for Democrats.

15:32

Bernie, he'll talk about trans, but only

15:34

if forced to do so at point

15:36

of gun. This is not a major

15:38

issue for him. Instead, he rails against

15:41

his own party, and he doesn't. pure

15:43

unbridled, kill the rich and eat them,

15:45

class warfare. So here he was railing

15:47

against. own party. Well I would take

15:49

us back even two years before that

15:51

before Trump was elected and saying that

15:53

it saddens me that when the Democrats

15:55

had control of the Senate they did

15:57

virtually nothing for working people. I'd have

15:59

to say that I'm a member of

16:01

the Democratic caucus as an independent so

16:03

I'm not going to lie to you

16:05

and tell you otherwise. Okay so again

16:07

of course he has an interest in

16:09

saying this. He is an independent from

16:11

Vermont. who has basically become a quote

16:13

unquote thought leader inside the Democratic Party

16:16

because they have no thoughts. And so

16:18

he is just pouring old school Marxism

16:20

into the vessel of the Democratic Party.

16:22

Here he was talking about the quote

16:24

unquote oligarch. Now again, any actual definition

16:26

of oligarch you would have to include

16:28

Bernie Sanders in it. He's the most

16:30

powerful people in the country. He's very

16:32

wealthy. He obviously has that lake house.

16:34

He's a big following. If you're talking

16:36

about oligarchs in control of the levers

16:38

of power and capable of controlling people

16:40

of people's lives. Bernie should be near

16:42

the top of that list. What he

16:44

means by oligarchy is actually just very

16:46

rich people, like people who have made

16:49

money in private industry. He hates private

16:51

industry. He hates private markets, Bernie. Bernie

16:53

is the kind of person who literally

16:55

has said that private charity is bad

16:57

because it crowds out government spending. And

16:59

you have to go pretty far afield

17:01

to find people who literally hate people

17:03

giving charity. Bernie has said himself that

17:05

charity is bad. Private charity is wrong.

17:07

Because it might make people feel as

17:09

though... They're actually doing something good when

17:11

actually the government should be doing that

17:13

thing. Bernie Sanders is the kind of

17:15

person who praised breadlines at one point

17:17

because there's bread at the lines. Bernie

17:19

Sanders is the type of person who

17:21

has said there are too many types

17:24

of toothpaste in the aisles at CVS.

17:26

Why do you need that many types

17:28

of toothpaste? Why do you need that

17:30

many types of toothpaste? He is like

17:32

a full scale tanky, meaning a communist

17:34

sympathizer. I've been covering you for a

17:36

long long time. I've heard you railing

17:38

against millionaires and billionaires for a long

17:40

time. Is it different? turns out a

17:42

few other people are catching on to

17:44

that right? I have been talking for

17:46

many years about this country moving toward

17:48

an oligarchy and I think anybody who

17:50

is not dumb death or blind is

17:52

seeing precisely what is happening. So again

17:54

this is his stick and it is

17:57

going to be the successful stick so

17:59

then he was asked by Jonathan Carl

18:01

about AOC because it's clear that Bernie

18:03

himself is 83 years old by the

18:05

time of the next presidential election Bernie

18:07

is going to be 86 87 years

18:09

old So he ain't gonna be the

18:11

guy. So who is it that he's

18:13

gonna tap on the shoulder? There is

18:15

a reason he's campaigning with AOC. So

18:17

Jonathan Carl asked him about the possibility

18:19

of AOC supplanting Chuck Schumer in the

18:21

New York Senate. She might want to

18:23

run for the Senate, but the reality

18:25

is that AOC has a better shot

18:27

of being president than being senator from

18:29

New York. There's a lot of internal

18:32

politics in New York. Schumer has his

18:34

hands on a lot of different levers

18:36

in the state, in the state. Right

18:38

now, we have, as I said, just

18:40

a whole lot of people in the

18:42

Congress. Okay, God, thanks. Wait, I got

18:44

one more, I got one more, this

18:46

is important. Well, I ask you, you

18:48

know, you want to do nonsense? Do

18:50

nonsense. Do nonsense? No. I don't want

18:52

to talk about inside the beltway stop.

18:54

I got 32,000 people. I was just

18:56

asking you about it? Inside the beltway

18:58

stop. I got 32,000 people. I was

19:00

just asking you about inside the beltway

19:02

stop. I got 32, I was asking,

19:05

I, I, I was asking, I was,

19:07

I was, I was, I was, I

19:09

was, I was, I was, I was,

19:11

I was, I was, I was, I

19:13

was, I was, I was, I was,

19:15

I was, I was, I was, I

19:17

was, I was, I was, I was,

19:19

I was, I was, I was, I

19:21

was, I was, I was, I was,

19:23

I was, Unbelievable.

19:27

So he's getting up and the reason

19:29

he's getting up is because he knows

19:31

that he's being asked to create a

19:33

war inside the party. What he actually

19:35

wants is for AOC to run for

19:37

president. And so by the way does

19:39

the Associated Press. Quote, Bernie Sanders stepped

19:41

onto a stage in downtown Denver surrounded

19:44

by tens of thousands of cheering supporters

19:46

and what he described as the biggest

19:48

rally he had ever addressed. The Vermont

19:50

Senator put his hand on the shoulder

19:52

of the woman who had introduced him

19:54

a signal for her to stay on

19:56

stage. She's become an inspiration to millions

19:58

of millions of young people. Recounting her

20:00

biography from a girl who helps her

20:02

mother clean houses and later became a

20:04

bartender before emerging as political insurgent who

20:06

ousted a powerful New York Democrat in

20:08

the U.S. House primary. And that is

20:10

a very rosy picture of AOC's history.

20:12

The truth is that she grew up

20:14

pretty middle class in New York. And

20:16

there's nothing wrong. Growing up middle class

20:18

is great. But this kind of idea

20:20

that she's a total rags to riches

20:22

story, she was a Boston University. I

20:24

mean, this is not somebody who grew

20:26

up totally impoverished. And then she ousted

20:29

a powerful New York Democrat in a

20:31

House primary. I think she received 15,000

20:33

votes in that House primary. The crowd

20:35

began a chance for a message in

20:37

a connection. with a segment of liberals

20:39

feeling disenchanted with both parties. Now in

20:41

her fourth term, the 35-year-old Congresswoman is

20:43

working to broaden her appeal beyond her

20:45

progressive anti-establishment roots. Hitting the road last

20:47

week with Sanders for his fighting oligarchy

20:49

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20:51

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20:53

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20:55

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20:57

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20:59

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21:22

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21:24

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21:26

posing herself as against the establishment Democratic

21:28

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21:30

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21:32

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21:34

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21:36

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21:38

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21:40

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21:42

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21:44

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21:46

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21:48

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21:59

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22:01

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22:03

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22:05

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involved in other ways. He's obviously too

24:36

wealthy for them to threaten his livelihood.

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He doesn't seem to care very much

24:40

what people think of him. So that

24:42

is unlikely to stick to Musk personally.

24:44

However, that's not the goal. The goal

24:46

right now for Democrats is very simple.

24:48

There's a reason they're using the word

24:50

oligarchy. I don't think they're being stupid.

24:52

I think it's actually quite smart. What

24:55

they're attempting to do is craft a

24:57

narrative of a group of people at

24:59

the top of government in private industry

25:01

and in the public sector who are

25:03

working together to corrupt the system. from

25:05

the conservative side of the aisle is,

25:07

well, if the economy is booming, what

25:09

are you complaining about? Not that there's

25:11

coordination and collusion, but of course business

25:13

is going to support Republican administrations because

25:15

Republican administrations remove all of the horrible

25:17

regulations that have led to the downfall

25:19

of cities like Los Angeles, Chicago, New

25:21

York, and Detroit. Republicans get the obstacles

25:23

out of the way business, so business

25:25

tends to support Republicans. This has been

25:27

sort of a longstanding theme in American

25:29

politics for decades. But the way that...

25:31

Democrats are playing it, is that there's

25:33

a sort of corporatist, slimy deal going

25:35

on at the top of politics, the

25:37

oligarchy, air quotes, in which the musks

25:40

of the world are cooperating with the

25:42

trumps of the world so that Trump

25:44

will put money in Musk's pocket and

25:46

Musk will put money in Trump's pocket

25:48

and they both call home happy and

25:50

everybody else gets poor. That is the

25:52

line. It's not true, but that is

25:54

the line Democrats are going to use.

25:56

The reason that's clever is because the

25:58

way that people tend to filter politics.

26:00

We sit here, we talk politics every

26:02

day, and so if you listen to

26:04

this show, you're a member of a

26:06

tiny cadre in the American public who

26:08

watches politics at a fairly granular level.

26:10

You know, the players, you know, the

26:12

general arguments, the vast majority of people

26:14

in the United States, have a picture

26:16

of politics that is significantly less granular.

26:18

All of us are right up close

26:20

to the Sarat painting. George Sarat is

26:22

famous impressionist who paints with dots. Sunday

26:25

in the park with George is a

26:27

musical based on the life of the

26:29

life of Sarat. If you ever go

26:31

and you see his paintings, for example,

26:33

the museum in Chicago, if... If you

26:35

go and you look at his paintings,

26:37

it's pointless. It's pointless. He's got a

26:39

bunch of dots and it's like millions

26:41

of dots. And then when you draw

26:43

back, you see that it's a picture

26:45

of something. People who watch politics closely

26:47

are like people who are really, really

26:49

close to a serat painting. You can

26:51

see every single dot. You see every

26:53

pixel. You see every pixel. Then you

26:55

pull back and you see the whole

26:57

picture. Most people who wander into the

26:59

room. It is not a granular view

27:01

of politics. So if you see a

27:03

picture of President Trump at the inauguration

27:05

flanked by Jeff Basos and Mark Zuckerberg

27:07

and Elon Musk and Tim Cook and

27:10

Neil Mohan and the rest of the

27:12

and Sundar Pinchai and all the rest

27:14

of these sort of tech CEOs and

27:16

they're all in a room together and

27:18

President Trump is next to them, these

27:20

sort of birds I view take half

27:22

a moment and look at the TV

27:24

and then move on with your day.

27:26

view of that is, oh, these guys

27:28

are friends and they must work together.

27:30

And so what Democrats are banking on,

27:32

what they are banking on, is a

27:34

close coordination between private industry and the

27:36

president and then an economic fall. That

27:38

is what they are banking on. And

27:40

if there's an economic fall, AOC is

27:42

poised right there and so is burning.

27:44

And let's be clear about what the

27:46

threat level is. This is why the

27:48

economy must succeed. People on the sort

27:50

of Trump's supportive side of the aisle.

27:53

What he's been doing with regard to

27:55

Canada, the reason I've been saying that

27:57

is because the greatest danger to the

27:59

Trump administration's success is in economic downturn.

28:01

Anything else can be overcome. Economic downturn

28:03

gets attributed to the president, who is

28:05

the president when it happens, whether or

28:07

not he deserves it. That's just the

28:09

way it works. And so that is

28:11

the great danger. And it is great

28:13

that this White House is very friendly

28:15

toward business. That's a wonderful thing. But

28:17

every image showing how friendly this White

28:19

House is toward business. becomes a weapon

28:21

in the arsenal of people like AOC.

28:23

Who doesn't understand business, doesn't understand economics,

28:25

hates the... rich, like truly does not

28:27

like them, thinks that there's a moral

28:29

quality that adheres to you as you

28:31

gain wealth that makes you immoral and

28:33

bad. It's a bizarre, it's a bizarre

28:35

sort of Marxist presentiment that makes no

28:38

sense, just on a moral level. I

28:40

have been very not rich and I've

28:42

been very rich and I've been very

28:44

rich and I'm basically the same person

28:46

all the way through. And that's true

28:48

of pretty much everybody I know who

28:50

was at one point not rich and

28:52

then became rich. I know many people

28:54

who are wonderful who are rich, I

28:56

know many people who are awful who

28:58

are rich, I know many people who

29:00

are awful or not rich. Wealth does

29:02

not define character. But for people like

29:04

AOC and Bernie, there's a very flattering

29:06

view that they can present to the

29:08

vast majority of Americans, which is that

29:10

if you are rich, it's because you

29:12

suckered someone and did something corrupt and

29:14

you're bad. That essentially participating in the

29:16

capitalist system makes you morally inferior should

29:18

not exist. He doesn't just mean we

29:20

should redistribute the wealth. He means there's

29:23

something literally immoral in being a billionaire.

29:25

Well that's precisely the opposite of what

29:27

President Trump is doing. But people tend

29:29

to judge politics again based on that

29:31

walking through the room looking once at

29:33

the painting and walking out. And if

29:35

they see closeness between the White House

29:37

and various industrial capitalists who have done

29:39

really well, tech bros who have done

29:41

really well, and then the economy sinks,

29:43

all of that is going to be

29:45

tied to the ship. All of that

29:47

is going to get tied into the

29:49

sinking ship, if the ship should sink,

29:51

which is why the ship really needs

29:53

not to sink. As part of this,

29:55

for example, over the weekend, it was

29:57

reported that the White House, through an

29:59

outside event production company called Harbinger, is

30:01

soliciting corporate that the White House, through

30:03

an outside event production company called Harbinger,

30:06

is soliciting corporate sponsors for this year's

30:08

East Dereg, which is prompting and the

30:10

promise from logo and branding potential sponsors

30:12

and obtained by CNN. The egg roll

30:14

has long been privately funded without taxpayer

30:16

dollars, largely through the American Egg Board.

30:18

which also provides tens of thousands of

30:20

eggs for the occasion. All the money

30:22

raised by Harbinger will go to the

30:24

White House Historical Association. But the solicitation

30:26

of sponsorships marks an unprecedented offering of

30:28

corporate branding opportunities on White House grounds

30:30

running counter to long-established regulations prohibiting the

30:32

use of public office for private gain.

30:34

A former official said this is an

30:36

enterprise, this is not your grandmother's easter

30:38

egg roll, where people lined up outside

30:40

the gate and go and roll an

30:42

egg and get a little gift bag

30:44

and walk out. The pitch document... includes

30:46

logos for both the White House and

30:48

Harbinger, which previously produced the event during

30:51

President Trump's first term, and is offering

30:53

initial planning and event day execution for

30:55

sponsors that sign on. It features imagery

30:57

of Trump, First Lady Malania Trump, members

30:59

of the Trump family, the Easter Bunny,

31:01

and the White House Press Corps, including

31:03

CNN correspondent Caitlin Collins. The document says

31:05

sponsors of the White House East Drag

31:07

rule provide financial support activities and giveaways

31:09

to enhance the event while gaining valuable

31:11

brand visibility. A sponsor logo featured on

31:13

event signage, custom branded baskets, snacks, beverages,

31:15

or souvenirs. Now, is any of this

31:17

like truly awful? No, I mean, who

31:19

cares? This idea this is some sort

31:21

of open bribery or something like that.

31:23

It seems to me that if you're

31:25

raising money for charity and people want

31:27

a sponsorship opportunity attached, that's true for

31:29

pretty much every private charitable enterprise I've

31:31

ever associated with or seen. Go to,

31:33

seriously, a charity dinner and you'll see

31:36

a bunch of corporate sponsors of the

31:38

charity dinner. And that's where the money

31:40

comes from. Is this a big deal?

31:42

It isn't. Except that if the economy

31:44

sinks, then Democrats are going to try

31:46

to tie this to President Trump. The

31:48

same thing is true with regard to,

31:50

for example, Tesla. So President Trump did

31:52

a big presser, you'll recall, a few

31:54

weeks ago, on the lawn over at

31:56

the White House, where he talked about

31:58

buying a Tesla. And this was ripped

32:00

on by the members of the media,

32:02

suggesting this is a form of corruption.

32:04

This is Trump trying to prop up

32:06

the Tesla stock or whatever. Joe Biden

32:08

had done exactly the same thing with

32:10

stelantis. There's nothing really new here. But

32:12

that's not the point. The point is

32:14

the close. cooperation, which I think is

32:16

quite good, between Trump and people who

32:18

are successful in business, is going to

32:21

be wrapped around the Republican Party's neck

32:23

and Capitalism's neck if the economy should

32:25

shift south. That right there is the

32:27

biggest problem that Trump is why we

32:29

cannot afford either as a country or

32:31

as a body politic for this administration

32:33

to economically downturn because the next thing

32:35

that comes is a horseshoe theory populism

32:37

and that takes capitalism and stumps its

32:39

boot on it. What you're going to

32:41

get the rise of is on the

32:43

right. These sort of anti-capitalist populists, these

32:45

people definitely exist. These people are actually

32:47

an increasingly loud contingent of the Republican

32:49

Party who believe that capitalism is evil,

32:51

that business is bad, that capitalism takes

32:53

away from home and hearth. This very

32:55

live debate inside the right. And meanwhile

32:57

on the left, you are going to

32:59

see the rise of the Bernie Sanders

33:01

types. Bernie is well placed inside the

33:04

party right now, and whomever he taps

33:06

on the shoulder is quite likely at

33:08

this point. to be the nominee, particularly

33:10

if that person can knit together some

33:12

of the other aspects of the democratic

33:14

agenda. AOC is perfectly on brand when

33:16

it comes to the wokeness. She obviously

33:18

is very involved in standing up for

33:20

DEAI and all the rest. So she

33:22

checks the boxes of the radical left

33:24

on the woke side, but she is

33:26

also reaching over not into that. That's

33:28

not how she's campaigning. She's campaigning as

33:30

a full-scale democratic socialist in the mold

33:32

of Bernie Sanders. People laughed. I wrote

33:34

a column back in 2008, when Barack

33:36

Obama was first running for president, before

33:38

he received the nomination. And I said,

33:40

beware, because the actual danger here is

33:42

not Hillary Clinton, the actual danger here

33:44

is Barack Obama. And I think it

33:46

was in 2007, actually. Well, it turns

33:49

out that right now, the real danger

33:51

is AOC. I'm just telling you right

33:53

now, right here. And we can laugh

33:55

at her. I've been laughing at her

33:57

for years. I think she's a ridiculous

33:59

figure. And I think that in the

34:01

Democratic primary, she's a dangerous, dangerous candidate.

34:03

Who's going to run against her and

34:05

be able to overcome her? Because if

34:07

you actually try to poo poo poo,

34:09

AOC, if you try to say, well,

34:11

she's dumb, which is true, if you

34:13

try to say that she's dumb in

34:15

a democratic primary, she's just going to

34:17

say, well, did you oppose Trump sufficiently?

34:19

Because the smarter people in the Democratic

34:21

Party are biding their time, like Slockin'

34:23

Michigan. And if you say, well, you

34:25

know, she's never done anything. She's going

34:27

to say, well, I never got anything

34:29

done, because I was just because I

34:31

was just too dedicated inside the party.

34:34

I was just too dedicated inside the

34:36

party. For sure, for sure. So do

34:38

not do not take your eye off

34:40

the ball there. And for the Trump

34:42

administration, do not take your eye off

34:44

the off the economic ball. That is

34:46

the single most important thing that you

34:48

can do is to calm the economic

34:50

waters. It is deeply important. Right now,

34:52

according to the Wall Street Journal, people

34:54

are selling their stocks. They're starting to

34:56

look elsewhere. Just two months after JP

34:58

Morgan Chase declared American exceptionalism the broad

35:00

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35:02

investors across the world are looking elsewhere

35:04

instead of riding the wave of US

35:06

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35:08

of tariff wars and major shifts in

35:10

US foreign policy And for much of

35:12

this volatile stretch markets in China and

35:14

Europe are outpacing expectations These are things

35:16

we do not need and much of

35:19

this is being self-created so unless somebody

35:21

can spell out the long-term plan for

35:23

how this helps the American economy. And

35:25

by long term, I really mean short

35:27

to mid-term. Because again, the election is

35:29

coming up fast. I know, we just

35:31

finished one. But it is 2025, 2028's

35:33

the election, it's not a lot of

35:35

time. If the idea is we got

35:37

to undergo some economic pain in order

35:39

to get economic gain, that better be

35:41

some fairly short-term pains for some pretty

35:43

long-term gain, if you hope that the

35:45

successor to President Trump is going to

35:47

win the White House. Well, meanwhile, speaking

35:49

of controversies that could be a problem

35:51

for the Trump administration, so President Trump

35:53

right now is going up against an

35:55

incredibly left-wing judiciary, particularly at the district

35:57

court level. Apparently, today, there's supposed to

35:59

be a hearing. The Trump administration has

36:02

a hearing with a three-member appeals panel

36:04

to over... return a judgment from Judge

36:06

James Bozburg that was the temporary restraining

36:08

order that blocked the use of the

36:10

1798 alien enemies act to deport plain

36:12

loads of migrants without due process and

36:14

that's what the lawsuit suggested. Justice Department

36:16

lawyers will demand that Bozburg be thrown

36:18

off the case is according to Politico.

36:20

So Josh Gerstein of Politico says this

36:22

is a big test for Trump's teams

36:24

in your face approach to all the

36:26

litigation in our faces. coupling confrontational court

36:28

filings with an all-out fuselage lot on

36:30

both cable news and social media against

36:32

judges who have blocked administration policies. Bozburg,

36:34

of course, is not going to go

36:36

along with it. I think it's very

36:38

doubtful, by the way, that the appeals

36:40

court goes along with Trump's attempt to

36:42

get Bozburg thrown off the case. According

36:44

to Politico, there are two Republican appointees

36:47

on this three judge panel. One is

36:49

a Trump appointing him, Justin Walker. The

36:51

second is a George Shelby Bush appointing

36:53

him, Karen Henderson, Karen Henderson. Josh Gerstein

36:55

says will they embrace Trump's expansive view

36:57

of executive power or will they show

36:59

concern about what Bozburg has called the

37:01

very frightening possibility of almost any migrant

37:03

being rapidly expelled to a third country

37:05

based solely on the say-so of the

37:07

executive branch Now it's not clear exactly

37:09

what happens if the appellate court rules

37:11

against Trump Presumably they will then appeal

37:13

to the Supreme Court and that's where

37:15

this needs to go. What we really

37:17

need at this point is a broad-scale

37:19

understanding of what local district court judges

37:21

are allowed to put TROs on and

37:23

what they are not allowed to put

37:25

TROs on, at least when it comes

37:27

to national policy. President Trump was asked

37:29

about defying the judiciary. So the Democrats

37:32

have been suggesting that Trump is going

37:34

to defying the judiciary. So the Democrats

37:36

have been suggesting that Trump is going

37:38

to defy the judiciary and keep defying

37:40

the judiciary. Here's Trump yesterday, basically making

37:42

clear that that's not the case. He

37:44

said, the Secretary of state is in

37:46

charge of these deportations of the law.

37:49

If there was a flight like tonight

37:51

with these guys even though it's still

37:54

being litigated if there was a flight

37:56

tonight full of accused gang members and

37:58

somebody called and said Mr. President, I

38:00

know that this is still being adjudicated,

38:02

but we can get these guys down

38:05

to El Salvador right now. Would you

38:07

say that that's okay? I would say

38:09

that I'd have the Secretary of State

38:11

handle it because I'm not really involved

38:13

in that. Okay, so again, that is

38:16

him deferring to the Secretary of State.

38:18

Marco Rubio is not going to just

38:20

willy-nilly ignore the law. This idea that

38:22

there's a constitutional crisis going on, if

38:24

there is, it is in fact a

38:27

creation of overreaching district court judges. But

38:29

it's not a constitutional crisis. It's going

38:31

to go to the Supreme Court. There

38:33

is no evidence whatsoever at this point

38:35

that the Trump team is going to

38:38

ignore orders from the Supreme Court of

38:40

the United States. Meanwhile, these justices, these

38:42

judges at the low level, many of

38:44

them are just nuttily radical, totally crazy.

38:47

For example, just last week, U.S. District

38:49

Court judge Anaraa Reyes, issued another sweeping

38:51

injunction. against banning trans-volunteers and current service

38:53

members from serving in the military, and

38:55

wrote a 75-page decision, quote, the military

38:58

ban is soaked in animus and dripping

39:00

with pretext. Its language is unabashedly demeaning.

39:02

Its policy stigmatizes transgender persons as inherently

39:04

unfit. Its conclusions bear no relation to

39:06

fact. Well. Pete Hexeth, the excellent Secretary

39:09

of Defense, then immediately tweeted back, quote,

39:11

since Judge Reyes is now a top

39:13

military planner, she they can report to

39:15

Fort Benning at 0600 to instruct our

39:17

army rangers on how to execute high-value

39:20

target raids. After that, Commander Reyes can

39:22

dispatch to Fort Bragg to train our

39:24

green berays on counterinsurgency warfare. I

39:27

mean, that is right. And again, that

39:29

judgment will be appealed to the Supreme

39:31

Court. Right now, what we need is

39:33

for the Supreme Court to stop mouthing

39:36

off about President Trump mouthing off about

39:38

district judges and actually sign into chat.

39:40

When is Justice Roberts going to allow

39:42

the Supreme Court to take up the

39:45

question of what our district court judges

39:47

allowed to do in terms of these

39:49

gigantic restraining orders that stop in their

39:51

tracks any national policy? And again, all

39:54

the talk right now about how... Republicans

39:56

are going to run roughshout over the

39:58

rule of law. It's just not true.

40:00

So President Trump has been we need

40:03

to impeach these federal judges. They're not

40:05

getting impeached. Senator John Curtis of Utah

40:07

says, listen, President Trump can say whatever

40:09

he wants, it takes two-thirds of the

40:12

Senate to impeach, and that's not going

40:14

to happen. I hope every high school

40:16

civics teacher and every high school student

40:18

is paying attention because we're having a

40:21

lesson in civics. It's not crisis, it's

40:23

civics. And our founders created a system

40:25

where there were these tugs and poles

40:27

between the three branches, and it's messy.

40:30

sometimes. But that's the beauty of the

40:32

Constitution. And, you know, you can talk

40:34

impeachment and you can throw it out

40:36

there. That's what you can do. But

40:39

the reality of it is it takes

40:41

two-thirds of the Senate to impeach. We

40:43

know that's not going to happen. Okay,

40:45

so he's read about that. Again, so

40:47

many of the things that Trump says

40:50

on truth social, it's been a long

40:52

time article of faith in the Trump

40:54

supportive community that you take President Trump

40:56

seriously, but not literally. And that's right.

40:59

When President Trump is ranting about these

41:01

district court judges and when he's saying

41:03

we're going to impeach them, that's not

41:05

going to happen. There's a process for

41:08

that thing. And when President Trump suggests

41:10

that he's going to defy court orders,

41:12

again, there's very little evidence that President

41:14

Trump is actually going to defy court

41:17

orders once we know what the actual

41:19

authority of these district court judges is.

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Okay, meanwhile in cultural news Snow White

41:50

there's been enormous amount of controversy surrounding

41:53

Snow White obviously because of everything from

41:55

the original decisions with with regard to

41:57

casting to the insane hardcore nasty leftism

41:59

of Rachel's ex- attack in a wrong,

42:02

clothes star for being Israeli and just

42:04

and generally attacking men and suggesting that

42:06

Snow White was a sexist story and

42:08

all this. Controversy has been dogging this

42:11

movie since the very beginning. So much

42:13

so that the Daily Wear I think

42:15

we played a major role in basically

42:17

forcing Disney to go reshoot it. Well

42:20

it didn't help, apparently. Disney Snow White

42:22

was essentially a box office dud. Early

42:24

estimates suggested that they would take in

42:26

48 to 58 million in the first

42:29

weekend. It costs $270 million

42:31

to make. $270 million. Obviously it was

42:33

going to win the box office. It's

42:35

the biggest movie at the box office

42:37

this weekend. But for example, Disney Cinderella,

42:39

which for my money is still the

42:42

only good live action Disney remake, mainly

42:44

because it was directed by Kenneth Brana,

42:46

who actually is a terrific director. That

42:48

one did 91.8 million dollars in its

42:51

opening weekend against a $138 million budget.

42:53

Both figures adjusted for inflation But this

42:55

live action remake is a giant fail

42:57

is not doing well at the box

42:59

office When it comes to the rotten

43:02

tomato score on this thing even the

43:04

critics are not in love with Disney's

43:06

snow white It's clocking in at 44%

43:08

The cinema score, which is basically how

43:10

audiences respond to the film, is a

43:13

B-plus, which generally is not terrible, but

43:15

it actually is quite terrible with regard

43:17

to kids' films. Kids films are graded

43:19

on a curve. There has never been

43:21

a Disney live-action remake that is graded

43:24

lower than an A- except for Snow

43:26

White. It turns out that Americans are

43:28

not in love with the politics of

43:30

Disney. I think this is the last

43:32

gasp of old Disney. And when I

43:35

say old Disney, I mean sort of

43:37

the... The regime that decided that wokeness

43:39

needed to be infused in every movie.

43:41

If they keep going along this path,

43:43

they're going to go bankrupt. They really

43:46

are going to be in serious, serious

43:48

trouble. They can't keep churning out trash

43:50

IP based on some of the greatest

43:52

IP ever created and hope that audiences

43:54

are going to keep showing up at

43:57

the box office. Well, folks, in order

43:59

to determine just how badly Snow White

44:01

is doing at the box office. I

44:03

asked my friend perplexity, one of our

44:05

sponsors of the show, about which Disney

44:08

films actually have done the best at

44:10

the box office in terms of live

44:12

action remakes adjusted for inflation versus the

44:14

budget. And here is what my friend

44:16

perplexity says. Disney's live action remakes have

44:19

generally performed well at the box office

44:21

with several earning over a billion dollars

44:23

worldwide. The Lion King of 2019 had

44:25

box office 1.663 billion dollars, the original

44:28

budget was 260 million dollars, $260 for

44:30

$260. Beauty and the Beast, almost 4X,

44:32

made $1.264 billion at the box office.

44:34

The adjusted budget, which I assume includes

44:36

production, advertising, all the rest, $321 million.

44:39

Aladdin did really well at the box

44:41

office. At almost 5X, $1 billion in

44:43

the box office, adjusted budget, $218 million.

44:45

Jungle Book did well as well in

44:47

Cinderella. And now you'll notice that the

44:50

years that these did well are all

44:52

prior to the pandemic. Cinderella was 2015,

44:54

Jungle Book was 2016, Aladdin was 2019,

44:56

Beauty and the Visa was 2017, and

44:58

Lion King was 2019. Then the pandemic

45:01

happened. And once the pandemic happened, people

45:03

actually had to have a reason to

45:05

go to the box office. And this

45:07

is when the fail began for Disney.

45:09

Milan had a $231 million adjusted budget.

45:12

It made $70 million of the box

45:14

office. Now again, part of that is

45:16

because it was released at Disney Plus.

45:18

Pinocchio, same deal. Production budget, $164 million,

45:20

zero dollars of the box office because

45:23

of course it debuted on Disney Plus.

45:25

Dumbo, live action remake, made in 2019.

45:27

That one's it poorly because they also

45:29

had Tim Burton direct it, which is

45:31

a very bizarre directorial choice for a

45:34

kids movie. Tim Burton is very scary.

45:36

Snow White, however, is the worst performing

45:38

of any of these except for... You

45:40

can count Malamblin long as in the

45:42

middle of the pandemic. Right now, Snow

45:45

White is the worst performing. of these

45:47

live action remakes so far in history.

45:49

Now it's not going to stop at

45:51

87.3 million dollars global box. that's where

45:53

it is right now. Its adjusted budget

45:56

is $270 million. Eventually, it'll end up

45:58

earning maybe its budget, maybe, maybe it

46:00

makes back like its original money, certainly

46:02

not if you include all of the

46:04

advertising that was put behind it, all

46:07

the press, and the rest. It's going

46:09

to be a gigantic box office failure.

46:11

But the trend that you're noticing is

46:13

that the worst performing of the Disney

46:16

movies in terms of live action remakes

46:18

are basically everything in the last five

46:20

years. And that is a combination of

46:22

wokeness and the pandemic. And now you

46:24

better have a good reason to get

46:27

people to the theaters. And this ain't

46:29

it. The movie apparently is not very

46:31

good. I haven't seen it yet. I

46:33

would be shocked if it were. Again,

46:35

the star, racial Ziegler, is unbelievably harmless

46:38

in public. Studios really need to go

46:40

back to what they originally did, which

46:42

was tell your stars to shut up

46:44

and not say things, because no one

46:46

is paying to hear your star, say

46:49

offensive things off the screen. It's quite

46:51

foolish. Tom Cruise, you just don't see

46:53

him anymore when he is not on

46:55

the big screen. He's just that character

46:57

on the big screen, which means that

47:00

you can just take him or leave

47:02

him on the big screen. That is

47:04

the smart way to approach this stuff.

47:06

Hollywood needs to go back to it.

47:08

And meanwhile, big controversy has now broken

47:11

out as well over cuts to supplemental

47:13

nutrition assistance program, SNAP. SNAP is basically

47:15

food stamps. And all across the country.

47:17

under pressure from the Health and Human

47:19

Services Department under Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

47:22

There's been a push to cut off

47:24

the use of SNAP for candy and

47:26

soda and junk food, which is a

47:28

smart move. There's no reason. If SNAP

47:30

is designed to provide nutritional supplement to

47:33

kids, particularly, or to poor families. And

47:35

why exactly are we supplementing with the

47:37

most unhealthy stuff in American life? We

47:39

already have a massive childhood obesity problem

47:41

in this country. The problem in the

47:44

United States right now, by the way.

47:46

when it comes to things like obesity,

47:48

is that if you were to create

47:50

a curve of obesity versus health, it

47:53

actually reverses the historical... The historical curve

47:55

would have been that people at the

47:57

top of the income pyramid were the

47:59

most overweight, right? They were the most

48:01

obese. If you go back to ancient

48:04

societies, and then if you move to

48:06

now, actually it's the reverse. Right now

48:08

the problem with the health of people

48:10

who make less money in the United

48:12

States is not about them being undernourished

48:15

in terms of not getting enough caloric

48:17

intake. It's actually too much caloric intake.

48:19

And that comes along with an enormous

48:21

number of other health problems. So why

48:23

exactly should the American taxpayer subsidize people

48:26

eating unhealthy junk? And yet somehow this

48:28

has turned into a massive controversy. There

48:30

are some right-wing influencers who are suggesting

48:32

that this is very bad, that somehow

48:34

there has to be some right for

48:37

people to use snapped, that somehow there

48:39

has to be some right for people

48:41

to use snapped by a snickers. I

48:43

don't know under what rubric of conservatism

48:45

that falls. I can hear a libertarian

48:48

conservative who believes... that government should, at

48:50

some baseline level, care for people who

48:52

are the most impoverished, but they should

48:54

not subsidize them fattening themselves in the

48:56

most healthy, unhealthy ways. That I could

48:59

hear. I don't know what kind of

49:01

conservatism says you owe somebody a snickers.

49:03

I don't understand what that is. But

49:05

apparently, that is in fact a controversy.

49:07

Kennedy is right about this, obviously. The

49:10

amount of clinical obesity in the country

49:12

is extraordinary. It is crippling the American

49:14

health care system. If you look at

49:16

the... So of life outcomes, the health

49:18

outcomes of Americans right now. One of

49:21

the reasons we lag behind many of

49:23

the other places on earth, ranging from

49:25

Japan to certain countries in Europe, one

49:27

of the reasons for that is because

49:30

we are inordinately fat. We are a

49:32

very unhealthy country before you ever hit

49:34

the country before you ever hit the

49:36

medical system. Many of the so-called, we

49:38

are a very unhealthy country before you

49:41

ever hit the medical system. Many of

49:43

the so-called failings of the American nutritional

49:45

system. This is something that RFQ is

49:47

absolutely that we should ban cell phones.

49:49

from schools, which is right. We should

49:52

not have kids on iPhones at their

49:54

schools. That's right. The reason that he

49:56

cited was because of electroelectric radiation effects

49:58

on the human body, which, let's just

50:00

say the evidence for that is scanty

50:03

at best. So there have been some

50:05

jokes online about the idea that perhaps

50:07

this will be the pattern here is

50:09

that RFK Junior recommends good policy based

50:11

on bad premises. That basically RFK Junior

50:14

is going to be saying that you

50:16

should not eat. too many trans fats

50:18

because the aliens might get you or

50:20

something. Like it's a good policy, but

50:22

it's not exactly based on the best

50:25

available science. All right, guys, coming up,

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