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What is that? What

2:59

is that? Poppedastrophe? Yeah.

3:01

No, I don't. I'm not. I'm

3:03

not kidding. What?

3:05

What festival? Poppedastrophe

3:08

2007. Um. That is.

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What is that? Poppedastrophe?

3:14

Yeah. No, I don't. I'm not.

3:16

I think I might have seen

3:18

a flyer from there. I'm

3:20

sure you've seen a lot

3:22

of flies before. But I'm...

3:25

I don't think I've ever been

3:27

to one of those things, like

3:30

those pop festivals. Oh, it's great.

3:32

It's a huge power pop fest.

3:34

And it's happening in Newbridge down

3:37

by the dock. Uh-huh. I'll tell

3:39

you, I'll tell you right now.

3:41

Yeah. It's going to be

3:44

bigger than the Paisley pop

3:46

pop-a-thon last year in Des

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Moines. And it's definitely going

3:51

to make January pop-Pup-Delphia pop-a-d.

3:53

I guess so I don't

3:56

know. You don't remember?

3:59

No, I... wasn't there you read

4:01

about it though no not really yeah mick

4:03

rain meant his flight and uh...

4:05

didn't even get there until the

4:07

bill big spies were finishing their

4:10

set who is that mick mick make

4:12

rain okay i don't know who that is

4:14

the drummer for the paz band okay i

4:16

know i've heard of the paz band

4:18

well anyway that the the best

4:21

run from friday morning is going

4:23

to be this big uh... kickoff

4:26

breakfast buffet captain's donuts Sure sure

4:28

going to go to late Sunday

4:30

night. We're just going to be

4:32

this big post festival buffet

4:35

at captain's donuts Okay,

4:37

well that sounds like

4:39

a lot of fun. It's going to

4:42

be good. Yeah, you should come down.

4:44

Um, you know, that's not really

4:46

my thing What do you mean?

4:48

Like power pop stuff? Yeah. I

4:50

mean I like power pop I like

4:52

it, you know, fine but there's

4:55

that kind of Thing

4:57

where it's just too much of

5:00

it, and I just it's I

5:02

so it's not my thing and

5:04

that music gets very samey

5:07

You know when it's when you're

5:09

getting it kind of shoveled

5:12

at you. Hey, you shouldn't

5:14

say that stuff something like

5:16

that Well, why it's how

5:18

I feel what if quad P

5:20

heard you? quad P. Yeah, who

5:22

who who who is quad P?

5:24

power pop pop? Power

5:27

Pop, Pop, Pop, Pop. Yeah. Who is

5:29

Power Pop, Pop, Pop? He's putting on

5:31

Pop Tastrophe 2007. You know who

5:34

he is. I have no idea

5:36

who that is. He's like the

5:38

number one Power Pop guy in

5:40

America. He considers himself like the

5:42

president of Power Pop and he

5:45

lives here in Newbridge. You've seen

5:47

him around town. Well, what does

5:49

he look like? Well, he's that older

5:51

guy with the super dyed black

5:53

Beatles haircut and those really kind

5:55

of tight. Pants and he wears

5:57

that all that vintage neck I

6:00

think I saw him once at

6:02

the CED submarine. I think I

6:04

know who you're talking about. Yeah.

6:06

It's just a side car. It's

6:08

almost like one of those soapbox

6:10

derby things. Yeah. Not motorized or

6:12

anything. Yeah. How does he go

6:14

uphill in that? That's the thing.

6:16

His whole life is basically built

6:18

around going downhill. Yeah. I think

6:20

I saw him once at the

6:22

CD submarine. Kind of. Let me

6:24

guess what he was buying. I,

6:27

you know, I, I guess, I

6:29

remember him yelling at someone. He

6:31

was, I, he was telling me

6:33

the story about, recently I guess

6:35

he went there and there's some

6:37

new, like remastered, you know, pre-jeopardy

6:39

stuff. You know, like, when he

6:41

was, he was, he was, you

6:43

know, like, a teardrop guitar and

6:45

he was pretty, he was living

6:47

it, he was living it, he

6:49

was doing it, he was living

6:51

it, he was doing it, he

6:53

was yelling. What is the double

6:56

power pop? Oh, is it okay?

6:58

The double pea power pop. Yeah.

7:00

And I guess the guy was

7:02

supposed to hold him one and

7:04

he didn't have it anymore and

7:06

he said he went off. He

7:08

said he actually tried to throw

7:10

the guy through through that like

7:12

porthole. Yeah. Whenever that is, yeah.

7:14

So yeah, I think I know

7:16

the guy you're talking about. He

7:18

basically, his story is he saw

7:20

the Beatles. on Ed Sullivan when

7:22

he was like 14 and a

7:25

completely changed him he was on

7:27

the track to be you know

7:29

like a engineer that sort of

7:31

thing you know very you know

7:33

middle of the road kind of

7:35

guy but when he saw that

7:37

it was it was all over

7:39

and he became addicted to like

7:41

Beatles ask rock and roll and

7:43

pop uh... it just consumed him

7:45

and then for years he put

7:47

this zenow which you probably saw

7:49

when you were growing up it

7:51

was called keep the beat the

7:54

beat No, I don't

7:56

think so. Like a fan of

7:58

anything. You know, he says he's

8:00

the only person ever to pull...

8:03

a career standing retrospective on Dave

8:05

Smalley? Who, he, I know that

8:07

name. Dave Smalley. You have a

8:09

radio show. Oh, I'm sorry. I

8:11

didn't realize I, because I have

8:14

a radio show that's primarily a

8:16

talk show, that I'm supposed to

8:18

be some sort of power pop

8:20

encyclopedia. Who is that again? The

8:23

basis from the raspberries. That's right.

8:25

I knew he was in the

8:27

raspberries. Oh, again, I'm

8:30

sorry. He actually played in

8:32

bands also, in the 60s,

8:34

through the 90s. Uh-huh. All

8:36

over the Quint cities, the

8:38

needs, the hurt, the yes,

8:40

the no, the maybe. Nothing

8:43

really took off, though. Uh-huh.

8:45

Except for the raspberries. Oh,

8:47

no, you're not talking about

8:49

Dave Smalley. No, no, no,

8:51

no, no. You're talking about

8:54

power pop pop pop pop.

8:56

Absolutely, yeah. I'm in, I

8:58

got to say. I think

9:00

I die a little bit

9:02

whenever I say power pop

9:05

pop pop why it's it

9:07

just pop pop yeah that's

9:09

his like so he's power

9:11

pop pop pop you know

9:13

like your grandfather okay now

9:16

it's a little worse now

9:18

somehow that I'm picturing it

9:20

as he calls himself pop

9:22

pop is he a grandfather

9:24

Okay, never been married at

9:27

all. Yeah, okay. All right

9:29

Yeah, but yeah, so his

9:31

band kind of didn't really

9:33

take off But it does

9:35

really matter. I mean he's

9:38

set for life. You know,

9:40

it doesn't really have to

9:42

do anything. Mm-hmm. Yeah Well,

9:44

he sounds pretty like he's

9:46

into it. He's doing the

9:48

festival and that good for

9:51

him. Yeah You know who

9:53

is bad is? No Reginald

9:56

Super rich. He's the guy that

9:58

consulted on those huge mob cases.

10:00

Back in the mid-80s. Okay. I

10:02

remember when Carmine Robatello tried to

10:04

take down Freddie the hot dog

10:06

machine Klein Farber? You know, I

10:08

follow that stuff only, only peripherally.

10:11

Well, there was that big shootout

10:13

at the ice hole. That Italian

10:15

ice stand on Pancake Avenue? Yeah,

10:17

okay. And Officer Harrops. Father, Mayor

10:19

Harabs at the time. Mm-hmm gave

10:21

that okay to drop the big

10:23

crate of old grenades on everyone

10:25

and it left that big crater

10:27

That I mean that was That's

10:30

that's one of the only things

10:32

that I guess new bridge is

10:34

known for outside of the error

10:36

outside of our area I know

10:38

and that's why I for one

10:40

I'm glad that they filled up

10:42

that big hall with colored marbles

10:44

and paid it over. Yeah, I

10:46

mean talk about bad memories Yeah,

10:48

it's good to move on at

10:51

a point, but anyway quad peas

10:53

father i'm pretty sure he even

10:55

consulted on the first couple seasons

10:57

of columbo like he was that

10:59

big a deal even before that

11:01

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11:03

referenced a lot on that uh...

11:05

that show on the shout network

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I'm sorry? What? Newbridge,

12:59

what? Lewis. Met, what

13:02

is, I don't know what

13:04

that is. Can you, what

13:06

is, spell that for

13:09

me? M-E-W-S. Muse? Is

13:11

that how you say it? M.

13:13

Newbridge, M-E-W-S, Muse.

13:16

I've been saying it,

13:18

Lewis, all over my

13:20

entire life. Well, it's

13:22

Muse. Oh my God.

13:25

Oh, that's all right. You know,

13:27

I guess everybody makes like a

13:29

things like that you that you

13:32

don't realize you were doing. That's

13:34

true. It's true. He actually calls

13:36

it the power pop palace. Power

13:38

pop pop does. You know, when you

13:40

go into someone's house and

13:43

sometimes they'll be like, you got

13:45

to take your shoes off. Yeah. If

13:47

you want to come in. He's like that

13:49

too. Okay. But then he makes you

13:51

put on a pair of beetle boots.

13:53

Really. Yeah. He has almost every size

13:56

imaginable. He's even got a pair of

13:58

14 and a half in case any...

14:00

pro ballers come over in

14:02

case any pro basketball players who

14:04

are into power pop decide

14:06

to swing by yeah well

14:08

i guess he i guess he's is

14:10

nothing if not prepared you know

14:13

what else he is what you know

14:15

he is what you can hear from

14:17

me but he's a little tough

14:19

to be around power pop pop

14:21

pop is i mean really tough

14:23

really tough like how so well i

14:26

actually had a couple glass the

14:28

wine Okay, so Maybe I'm a

14:30

little more loose-lip than it should

14:32

be. Like I said, he calls

14:35

himself Power Pop Pop Pop,

14:37

you know, kind of like

14:39

a lovable grandfather. Yeah. But he's

14:42

more like this Power Pop dictator.

14:44

A Power Pop dictator. Yeah,

14:46

and actually a lot of

14:48

people in the Power Pop

14:51

community here, they call him Paul

14:53

Pop behind his back. Paul

14:56

Pop? Yeah, like the

14:58

Cambodian dictator? Yeah, yeah,

15:00

like Paul Pop. Exactly,

15:02

but Paul Pop? Yeah. Because

15:05

he's, he's like a power

15:07

pop dictator. Now how does

15:09

one become a power pop

15:11

dictator? He just

15:13

sort of assumed this role.

15:16

I mean, he lived the

15:18

stuff for his entire life.

15:20

I mean, he will go

15:22

to Japan. uh... but he'll buy

15:24

a ticket that day if

15:27

he sees that there's this

15:29

ultra-rair brown chikovsky seven-inch sure

15:31

and he'll go and get

15:33

it he'll go all the way uh...

15:36

to the other side of the world

15:38

absolutely yeah so he's got that

15:40

kind of money oh yeah so

15:42

you know people respect that because

15:45

of his father yeah i mean

15:47

technically okay yeah but he sold

15:49

by the book when it comes to

15:51

power pop Like give me an

15:53

example. Well, it's like big star is

15:55

actually a little too out there for

15:57

him. Really? He likes like in the street.

16:00

real good out september girls uh...

16:02

that that about it to the

16:04

other stuff he considers art

16:06

rock art rock yeah wow he's pretty

16:09

sounds pretty uh... stringent yes

16:11

his idea of the perfect

16:13

pop song is the song

16:15

called you're my baby by

16:17

this been called the children

16:19

i'd never heard of them either

16:21

yeah that's you got me they made

16:24

one record back in seventy

16:26

nine for bomb And for some

16:28

reason this song which is buried in

16:31

the middle of side too is like

16:33

his idea of the perfect song. It

16:35

sounds kind of like that Paul Collins

16:37

beat song a rock and roll

16:39

girl. Okay. I want to be with

16:42

a rock and roll girl. Yeah. So

16:44

he considers that to be the ultimate

16:46

pop song. Yeah and he gets down

16:48

on power pop. Exactly on bands who

16:51

deviate from what he calls textbook power

16:53

pop. Uh-huh. Yeah. But what is the

16:55

big deal? I mean if you aren't... fitting

16:58

his vision of the world I guess

17:00

that's his loss I know but he's

17:02

so sort of powerful in this world

17:04

this power pop scene uh... that he

17:06

he can do it you know and um...

17:08

but the problem is also

17:10

that he pays all these bands

17:13

so well when he puts on

17:15

these festivals okay because he's so

17:17

rich nobody wants to really ruffle

17:19

his feathers I mean he's actually

17:22

paying me to make this call right

17:24

now really how much Oh,

17:28

it just give me an idea.

17:30

Well, I'm calling all the local

17:33

radio stations to get them to

17:35

play the bands that are playing.

17:37

Oh, so this was just a

17:40

promotional call. Well, yeah. And I'm getting

17:42

like 7,000, okay? 7,000 for what,

17:44

for what, for how many calls?

17:46

I'm going to tell them that

17:49

I made like a hundred and

17:51

something. Uh-huh. Yeah. But how many,

17:53

my first one, though. How many are

17:55

you going to make? Okay,

17:58

yeah, so you You?

18:00

So he's pretty much, he

18:02

has a lot of control over

18:04

the whole scene. Absolutely, you know,

18:06

and I'll be honest man, I

18:09

mean, I'm really not even that

18:11

into the stuff anymore, I used

18:13

to be. Uh-huh. But this whole

18:16

power pop, pop, pop stuff is

18:18

kind of tainted for me. Uh-huh.

18:20

You know? Like, like, like, it

18:23

just makes you not enjoy the

18:25

music as much? Absolutely,

18:27

yeah. Well, he's the He is the He

18:30

was cousin Oliver yes, yes

18:32

on the Brady bunch and I

18:34

know he's involved in a lot

18:36

of That world I think I

18:38

saw something he's he's like a

18:41

drummer or something. He's a multi

18:43

instrumentalist big big power pop support.

18:45

Yeah, I mean is is he

18:48

is he involved in this thing?

18:50

Is he like I'm seeing it

18:52

or something? No, see he and

18:55

power pop pop up had a

18:57

falling out really yeah so roby wrist

18:59

and power pop pop yeah don't

19:01

get along not at all no

19:04

see um quad p felt slighted

19:06

when roby didn't ask him to

19:08

be part of this documentary he

19:11

was making about white twilly

19:13

okay and in return quad

19:15

p didn't ask roby for

19:17

comments for the oral history

19:19

he's putting together on that

19:22

song shake some action an oral

19:24

history of what the flaming

19:26

groove's The song. What

19:28

do you mean? I lost you

19:31

there. What the name of the

19:33

book is, Shake Some Action?

19:36

Yeah. And it's, it's, so

19:38

what, so, so he's writing,

19:40

so, God help me for

19:42

saying this, Quad P. Is

19:45

writing a, uh, an

19:47

oral history about the

19:50

flame and groovies. No,

19:52

it's about, it's about

19:54

the one song. The whole

19:56

book? Yeah. Why? Well how

19:58

long of a... What can

20:00

that be? That's like 1,200

20:03

pages or so? 1,200 pages?

20:05

Yeah. About one song? Yeah.

20:08

Shake some action? Yeah. 1,200

20:10

pages. Yeah. I know. That's just

20:12

nuts. Well, it's part

20:14

of his series. You know,

20:16

there's 33 and a third

20:19

books? Yeah. He's doing the

20:21

same thing. Uh-huh. But just

20:23

about singles. It's

20:25

called 45 RPM. Okay, but

20:28

those books are like a hundred

20:30

pages long. Yeah, these aren't. So

20:32

he's taking something that's about,

20:34

those are usually a hundred

20:36

pages long and they're about

20:38

an entire album. His book is,

20:40

you said twelve hundred pages long?

20:42

Oh, and it's about one song.

20:44

Right. And is that the first

20:47

one he's writing? No, he's actually,

20:49

but he's done like five or

20:51

six already under different names, but

20:53

I mean, he writes them all,

20:55

one for go all the way. uh...

20:57

where you've been on my

20:59

life uh... by photo maker

21:02

sure surrender day tripper

21:04

uh... she's got it by the

21:06

court full books oh yeah

21:08

yeah have you read any

21:10

of these books now i

21:12

mean i've tried we have

21:14

to joke with him that

21:16

uh... that uh... vinson bouillos

21:19

he better watch out

21:21

you know because he's

21:23

he's uh... encroaching No,

21:25

it's like 1600 pages. Really? Yeah, so

21:27

we joke with him about that,

21:29

but he doesn't laugh though He

21:32

doesn't find that very funny. You know

21:34

what? Kind of think of it. I've

21:36

never seen him laugh or smile I

21:38

Thought the power pop was supposed to

21:40

be like a fun kind of music.

21:42

Oh, no It's not him. I mean

21:44

in theory you think but yeah, it's

21:47

a very serious. I once saw him

21:49

spank a guy in that band the

21:51

records Yeah, because he heard him

21:53

talking about a sitator Not playing

21:55

one. What do you mean? He spanked him.

21:57

He spanked him. He put him over.

22:00

his knee. He's big. Oh he's... Unbelievable.

22:03

Yeah. So this guy puts an

22:05

adult over his knee because

22:08

he heard a guy in

22:10

a power pop band talk

22:12

about an instrument that has

22:15

nothing to do with power

22:17

pop. According to his definition.

22:19

Exactly. And if you look at

22:22

the list of bands, there's

22:24

not a keyboard in any

22:26

band. And there's a...

22:28

Not anything resembling like

22:31

anything what he calls

22:33

drug drug related like

22:35

a sitar or Violins

22:37

or cellos or whatever.

22:39

Yeah So it's all just

22:42

guitar guitar guitar based

22:44

drums. That's it What about

22:46

if it's just like a

22:48

trio? They're all no they're

22:50

all they're all all all

22:53

quartets. Yeah Wow he's pretty tough.

22:55

Yeah. Wow he's pretty tough. Yeah.

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was trying to throw Bill

24:36

Janet from Buffalo Tom

24:38

out of a window. Well,

24:40

the Buffalo Tom, that's not

24:43

even power pop. I know,

24:45

I mean, that's what they've

24:47

always said, but he told

24:49

them that they were a

24:52

disgrace to power pop. But

24:54

they're not power pop. Don't

24:57

tell me that. The worst,

24:59

that was when he attacked

25:01

Nikki Dolins. Really? Yeah. What he

25:04

did to you? He snubbed me at a

25:06

party I was at. Oh. Okay. What did

25:08

he do to power pop pop? Well,

25:10

you know, and they had that

25:12

reunion tour. Sure. And it was, it

25:15

was, it was, it was big. Like

25:17

20 years ago, exactly. So

25:19

if you recall, Nikki Dolan's

25:21

didn't really play a traditional

25:24

drum set. He played one of

25:26

those... What do they call

25:28

like Simmons pad or something? Like

25:30

a stand-up? Exactly electronic drums. Yeah,

25:32

that he could be at the

25:35

front of the audience and sing

25:37

with the headset on Exactly Well,

25:39

when power pop pop up saw

25:41

that drum set he lost it What

25:43

happened? Well, he got so mad that

25:45

he ran up there he shoved Mickey

25:48

back and then he grabbed the drums

25:50

and started throwing them into the

25:52

audience. Oh my god. Yeah, like it was

25:54

It was bad and he actually

25:57

cut this one girl in the

25:59

face. With the... electronic drum

26:01

exactly yeah that's terrible

26:04

awful and then she ended

26:06

up suing him and he

26:08

lost power pop up law did

26:10

and he had like a massive

26:13

amount of money had to pay

26:15

but then he ended up suing

26:17

micky dolens and he won on

26:19

on what grounds well judge

26:22

dades ruled that micky was

26:24

responsible for power pop

26:26

up actions because of

26:28

how far micky had

26:30

strayed from textbook pop

26:32

who made that ruling judge davies

26:35

yeah well that's not

26:37

surprising well I mean I

26:39

know he's had some problems lately

26:41

well so so he convinced

26:44

this guy power pop pop

26:46

hmm convinced this judge that

26:48

micky dolens by playing with

26:51

an electronic drum set on

26:53

stage right Straight from the

26:55

tenets of what in his

26:57

mind is power pop exactly

26:59

yeah So much that it it

27:01

his rage was justifiable Absolutely, yeah,

27:03

do you know how much he

27:06

got I think he got at

27:08

least? At least eight hundred

27:10

thousand. I think oh, oh my

27:12

god from Mickey dolins. Yeah, wow

27:14

that's that actually I'm torn

27:17

about that. That's like a lose

27:19

lose thing. I'm glad Mickey dolins

27:21

lost. I'm not happy about who

27:23

the whom the money went to

27:26

well not the worst thing he

27:28

does is what's that when he

27:30

pops you what's that he pops

27:32

you he pops you yeah how does

27:34

power pop pop pop pop you he's

27:36

got this little thing it's like

27:38

a it's like a weapon and

27:40

he calls it the pauper uh-huh

27:42

it's like the size of like a

27:45

little handgun but it's shaped

27:47

like a rickenbocker base The

27:50

size of, okay, I'm picturing that, all

27:52

right. And it basically pulls a little

27:54

trigger on it and it shoots out

27:56

these, kind of like hard rocks, but

27:59

they're these rocks. that he makes out

28:01

of garbage? Like what like

28:03

a garbage ball? Yeah

28:06

like concentrated garbage and

28:08

he hardens him somehow

28:10

like in an oven

28:12

or something. They shoot and

28:15

they and it really hurts. That's

28:17

disgusting. Yeah. So he does

28:19

that as and what is

28:22

he doing it like like

28:24

to punish you? Oh yeah. Well

28:26

I mean doesn't anybody to say

28:28

stop? really i mean he's

28:30

that powerful you know he

28:33

also has his proper for

28:35

women that's just plain awful

28:37

i don't even want to hear

28:39

about that yeah it's kind of like

28:41

the layer to the what he has

28:43

a layer a layer a layer at

28:45

the at the pop palace yeah

28:48

i'm actually calling from there right

28:50

now i'm in his little office

28:52

at the power pop palace yeah

28:54

oh well now please tell me

28:56

about this layer well Let's

28:58

just say that our old

29:01

friend from Philadelphia,

29:03

Mr. Heidnik, has

29:06

nothing on this guy. Gary

29:08

Heidnik. Yeah. Well, he was

29:10

a murderer. I know. Ew.

29:12

I don't think anything

29:14

like that's going down down

29:17

there, but it's a little

29:19

dungeon vibe. It's not

29:21

good. It's disturbing. Power

29:24

pop pop pop pop. But

29:26

it's not quite as disturbing

29:28

as the fact that the

29:31

resistance are also playing

29:33

poptastrophe. Who's playing

29:35

it? The resistance? I don't know

29:37

who that is. I don't think

29:39

you want to know who they

29:42

are. Uh-huh. Is it? What is that

29:44

like a new... Well, if they're playing

29:47

it... They're approved by Power

29:49

Pop Pop Pop. Yeah, sort

29:51

of. Uh-huh. Well, why

29:53

are you so so hesitant about

29:56

this band? Well, you gotta get

29:58

that? Yeah, hang on. Hello?

30:08

I am calling. I'm

30:10

making calls all night.

30:13

No, I've had a

30:15

lot of good

30:17

responses so far. Yes,

30:20

sir. Wow. Okay, goodbye,

30:22

sir. Yikes. Wow. He

30:24

was mad. I'm assuming

30:27

that was power pop pop

30:29

pop. Yes, it was, yeah.

30:31

he i'm sure he's not

30:34

listening to this or that

30:36

would have gone very differently

30:38

he doesn't listen to the

30:40

radio because there's i can

30:43

assume a chance he might

30:45

hear something that's not power

30:47

pop exactly and smash his

30:50

car again why would he's

30:52

he why would he smash his

30:54

own car he's so weird he

30:56

once heard uh... he heard one

30:58

of those latter day greg ken

31:00

songs on the radio They got

31:02

so mad that he literally

31:04

shot his car off of a bridge.

31:06

Uh-huh. He jumped out, of

31:08

course. I don't know. He went

31:11

nuts. That's why he's only

31:13

in the side car now.

31:15

This music is about fun

31:17

and falling in love and

31:19

having a good time and

31:21

enjoying your life. Well, you're

31:23

not going to hear any

31:26

of that when you listen

31:28

to the resistance. What is

31:31

the resistance? What is the

31:33

resistance? All right. They're a

31:35

white power pop? It's a

31:37

real dilemma for the power

31:40

pop community because, you know,

31:42

no one's into their message

31:44

at all, you know. But

31:46

to be honest, they're

31:48

generally considered the best

31:51

power pop band of

31:53

the last 10 years. You mean,

31:55

like in what way? They're just

31:58

phenomenal. I mean, they... It's

32:00

like, they're just great, I

32:02

mean, you would see this band

32:04

and they're head and shoulders above

32:06

all the other bands, you know,

32:08

but the lyrics, you know, I mean,

32:10

it's like, like it gerbils, lyrics

32:13

for the Ruben news. Oh. Thrown

32:15

the label called Panzur Faust, have

32:17

you heard of that? Yes, I

32:19

actually have. There's a little guy,

32:21

he's like a little two-inch guy

32:23

who used to call the show.

32:26

I don't know about that,

32:28

okay? He was a fan

32:30

of records on that label.

32:32

What's that? I'll use a

32:35

phone. You know, I remember,

32:37

but I don't remember.

32:39

I kind of block stuff

32:41

like that out. So, so,

32:44

there are, the resistance. Yeah.

32:46

So, technically, they're

32:49

good. Like, the songs are

32:51

good? Yeah, amazing. But

32:53

it's the lyrics. Yeah.

32:55

It's not good at all.

32:58

Uh-huh. Not good. Uh-oh.

33:00

But they're playing

33:02

this thing? Yeah. What's wrong?

33:05

Like I just heard

33:07

the side car pull-up.

33:09

Uh-huh. Hey, who else

33:11

is playing this thing?

33:13

Like, like, I mean, a

33:15

lot of the groups I

33:17

like, you know, like, you

33:19

know, velvet crush or the

33:22

posies, you know. Right are those

33:24

guys in on this thing? Oh no

33:26

those guys want nothing to do with

33:28

this whole scene Really they think

33:31

it's creepy. I think I think

33:33

they really think power pop pop

33:35

up is really creepy Where do

33:37

you where would they get that

33:40

idea? I don't know You know I

33:42

do know and I'm about to find

33:44

out a little more Because he's

33:46

coming in right now I got to

33:48

hang up in a second. Okay. He's

33:51

got the popper all right i may

33:53

or may not see this weekend well

33:55

i i won't be at the thing

33:57

i hope you're okay okay I

34:03

didn't even know

34:06

what that guy's

34:08

name was. That

34:11

poor guy's name

34:14

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34:16

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34:19

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