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This is the Big Phib. And now,
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here's your host, Deborah Goldstein. Welcome to
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the Big Phib, the game show where
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kids choose between the lost-it-hambone of
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truth and the sour apple deadwood
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of lies. I'm your host, Deborah
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Goldstein, and in the studio today
1:53
is our sound effects robot, Lisa,
1:55
whose name stands for live in
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studio audience. And the next sound you'll
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hear. will be the sound of an
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email message I received that I have
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digitized for your listening pleasure. Oh, fun.
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Yes, do play the listener question for
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us. I said the next sound would
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be the digitized message, but then you
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had to chime in with your, oh,
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fun, please, a question for us, play
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the question for us. I'm sorry. Okay,
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do it again, and this time, I'll
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wait for you to play the file.
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You know what, you ruined the moment.
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Oh. I'm just gonna play it. Okay,
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but I'm really sorry. Oh, I'm sorry.
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Do robots have fast food? Oh, you
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want to answer? Yes, please. Well, I
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mean, I guess all robot food is
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fast food. You see, we don't even
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wait to chew our food before we
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swallow it. Oh, kids don't try that
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at home. We try to eat as
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quickly as possible because the faster the
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food goes down, the better, the burp.
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Again, please don't try that at home.
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Lisa, can you even taste the food
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if you eat that fast without chewing?
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Ah, sure. Our Android mounts are equipped
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with hundreds of sensors that scan and
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analyze and scan and scan analyze all
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the flavor components in a nanosecond. Okay,
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and why do you try to eat
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so fast to generate burps? I'm a
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sound effects row about Deborah, and making
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fast food burp and sounds is just
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plain fun. And then I can save
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each burp sound into my burp and
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folder. Let's see if I can play
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one for you. Oh my! That was
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my whipped cream-covered lasagna burp? Oh, delightful.
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Oh, that was the meatloaf Seltzer burb.
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Okay, I think we're good now. We
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get the picture. I mean, you want
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a picture of that? No, definitely not.
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Okay, do you want to hear my
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moldy pineapple pizza omelet burp? Well, that
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sounds very tempting. I think we really
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need to move on. So thank you
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for telling us about fast food. Now,
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please tell us about how our game
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works. Every week, we bring on two
3:48
grown-ups. One, yeah, expert.
3:50
Other, boo, liar.
3:53
And it's the job
3:55
of a human
3:57
child to help us
3:59
figure out who
4:01
is who because no
4:04
one can spot
4:06
a liar better than
4:08
a kid. What
4:10
are we lying about
4:12
today, Deborah? We
4:14
are lying about bowling a game in
4:16
which large, heavy balls are rolled down
4:18
a lane to knock down pins. Let's
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learn about bowling with our big fib
4:23
contestant. Who would our contestant be today,
4:25
Lisa? Our human child contestant
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is a 10 -year -old who
4:29
wants to be a marine biologist,
4:31
Jackson Todd. Hello, Jackson
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Todd. How are you? Good.
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Excellent. Tell us, why do you
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want to be a marine
4:40
biologist? Because I believe that fish
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are friends. And I love
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the ocean. Yes, the ocean sounds
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lovely and looks lovely and
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is lovely to be in. It's
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like a bowling alley. It's like a
4:52
bowling alley. We are going to learn
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more about you, Jackson. We're going
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to do that by playing two truths
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and a lie. You, Jackson, will
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tell us three facts about yourself. Two
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of those facts will be in fact true.
5:05
One of those facts will be in
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fact a lie. And we have to figure
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out which one it is, Jackson. Tell
5:11
us your three facts. I can solve a
5:14
three -by -three Rubish cube in less than
5:16
two minutes. Whoa. I have a fish named
5:18
Bubbles. I wrote a book called Operation
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Aqua. OK, well, I feel like this could
5:22
be a trap in some way. What
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do you think, Lisa? Yes, it's
5:26
clearly a trap, but I am
5:28
too clever to fall into
5:30
it. He says he wrote a
5:33
book titled Operation Aqua. Aqua,
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Aqua. Aqua. See, that was the
5:37
first part of his trap,
5:39
very clever. He says he is
5:41
a pet fish named Bubbles.
5:43
Yes. And previously, he said
5:46
that fish are friends. He
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says he can solve a three -by -three
5:51
Rubish cube in less than two minutes.
5:53
He does say that. He says
5:55
all these things, but what he
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does not say. And I present
5:59
to you now. His friend the fish?
6:01
Yes? Is named Ronald. That one
6:03
is the lie. Nice try, dude.
6:06
Okay, is that true? Which one
6:08
of those facts is actually a
6:11
lie? I have a fish named
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Bubbles. You got it correct?
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Told you. Yeah, it's Ronald.
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Oh my gosh, Lisa. I
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don't even have a fish.
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He doesn't even have a
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fish. I knew it was a trap.
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I will, once I have space for
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it. Where would I put the water?
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Good question. You got pockets, don't you?
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You got a pocket aquarium. That was
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very good lying, I have to say,
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Jackson, which means to me, you're probably
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going to figure out who are a
6:41
liar is pretty easily. That's what I'm
6:43
thinking. And what do you know about
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bowling, Jackson? Have you ever gone bowling?
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Yes, I have. In fact, my brother
6:50
was in a bowling tournament. Wow. Whoa.
6:52
That's cool. So you went to go
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see him play. Oh I see, okay,
6:56
but maybe it's just in
6:58
the blood, right? Something you're
7:00
just born to do and
7:02
born knowing about. All right,
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we are going to get
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on with the game, Lisa, can
7:09
we get some music for
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our bowling experts? Here,
7:13
they come, they're have
7:15
some balls in the
7:17
hand and watch out
7:19
pins, they're bowling experts!
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Our first expert is
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Tom Frenzel. Tom, please
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introduce yourself to Jackson.
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Hi, I'm Tom Frenzel
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and I am a
7:34
bowling scientist. Okay, thank
7:36
you Tom. Let's meet
7:38
our second expert, Molly
7:40
Carmona. Molly, please introduce
7:43
yourself to Jackson. Hello,
7:45
I'm Molly and I'm
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a professional bowler with
7:50
the PWA. Okay. Tell
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us about
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those sounds.
8:00
you're rolling out Lisa? I'm rolling
8:02
out sounds because it's hot seat
8:04
time! That is correct it is hot
8:06
seat time that's when we put our
8:08
experts on the hot seat while they
8:11
answer Jackson's questions. Lisa whom should we
8:13
put on the hot seat first? I'm
8:15
going with Molly Carmona because her name
8:17
sounds like Holy Canole, which is fun
8:19
to shout. You ever shout it? Holy
8:21
Canole! And then you could do, Molly,
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Comeona! Oh yeah, that does have a ring
8:26
to it. I kind of like it. Sort of
8:28
fun. I like it. It's what I do on
8:30
the weekends. Nice. Okay, Jackson, you're going
8:32
to ask your first question to
8:34
Molly. What is that question? What
8:36
was the scariest thing that ever
8:38
happened in your work? Yeah, I think
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the scariest thing was at
8:43
one of my early tournaments
8:45
in my professional career. I
8:47
was in the middle of
8:49
a swing and my index
8:51
finger hadn't totally released from
8:53
the ball when it was
8:55
flying through the air. So
8:57
I actually dislocated my playing
8:59
finger and it was more
9:01
scary than dangerous. It was
9:03
very painful, but you know,
9:05
with physical therapy and everything,
9:07
we're back in the saddle. Oh my
9:09
gosh, there's a saddle in bowling? There
9:11
was that day, yes. I see. Okay,
9:13
now take it away, Jackson. This is
9:15
for both of you. How did you
9:18
get into the bowling business? So for
9:20
me, I have always enjoyed bowling
9:22
from when I was a kid, and
9:24
there's a movie that I watched that
9:26
really got me into it. If you
9:28
remember, the Flintstone's movie, I
9:30
think just watching the characters
9:33
kind of do the twinkle-toos thing
9:35
was always very fun for me.
9:37
So I asked my parents to
9:40
take me bowling and they saw that
9:42
I really had a love for it
9:44
and not just to tell it,
9:46
but I really really enjoyed it.
9:48
So I signed up for my
9:51
high school league and then
9:53
bold for my college team
9:55
in Boston, Massachusetts and was
9:58
scouted to join the PWA. ever
10:00
since for about 10 years. Wow. Okay, Tom? Sure.
10:02
Yeah, we all love Fred Flintstone. He's great.
10:04
Kind of similar, I started taking
10:07
bowling lessons when I was 11.
10:09
I got into it because my brother was
10:11
into it and I wanted to be like
10:13
my big brother, right? So, but we took
10:15
bowling lessons and bold league until we were
10:18
about ready to go to college and we
10:20
kind of dropped out of it for a
10:22
while, but I ended up going to college
10:24
and getting a degree in physics. And I
10:26
was looking for a job after college and
10:29
wasn't really finding much. And when I found
10:31
the posting for a bowling research engineer, I'm
10:33
like, okay, I got youth bowling and I've
10:35
got physics. So if I don't get this,
10:37
I'm not going to get a job. So
10:40
luckily I got that job and I've been
10:42
here for about eight years now. Yeah,
10:44
because everyone knows that when you
10:46
study physics, that's a path to bowling.
10:48
Naturally. It's a gateway. Yeah. Go ahead,
10:50
Jackson. requirements or experience needed to
10:53
get your job and that one's from
10:55
Molly? Well I think really the beautiful
10:57
thing about professional bowling is that it
10:59
really just comes down to the talent
11:01
as long as you have experience with
11:04
bowling and you're able to compete at
11:06
that level. One thing I guess you
11:08
need is an agent so I was
11:10
bowling for my college team and then
11:12
after I graduated I was put in
11:14
contact with somebody from one of
11:17
my networks on the bowling team.
11:19
someone who could help sort of
11:21
make the connections between me and
11:23
the professionals. And so I guess that's one
11:25
thing that you need, but I think it's
11:28
one of the fairer sports where there
11:30
aren't as many barriers to entry
11:32
because it's really just talent
11:34
and having someone who can make
11:36
the first connection for you. Hmm.
11:39
Tom, how was bowling invented? That's
11:41
a great question. And honestly, it dates
11:43
all the way back to the Egyptians.
11:45
So, I mean, people have been setting
11:47
up sticks and knocking them down with
11:50
balls for a very, very, very long
11:52
time. It was popularized in America
11:54
in the 1800s, and it got
11:56
more and more popular, and my
11:58
company that I worked for was
12:00
actually founded in 1895
12:02
as the American Bowling Congress.
12:04
So we've got about
12:06
126 years of regulating bowling,
12:09
including equipment and how the game is
12:11
played to morph it into what it
12:13
is today. The ancient
12:16
Egyptians, have you ever seen
12:18
the pyramids? Those were
12:20
originally bowling pins. Not
12:22
sure about that, but surely you've
12:24
heard the song Bow Like an
12:26
Egyptian. Bow Like an Egyptian. 190
12:32
points. Yeah, that's the one. That
12:36
was a good song. Yeah, classic. Go
12:38
ahead, Jackson. All right, this one's for
12:40
both of you. How are bowling balls
12:42
made? You have to pick them
12:44
when they're ripe and you pick them
12:46
off the tree and then you peel
12:48
them and then you polish them and
12:50
then you drill the holes in. That's
12:52
part of the process, Lisa, but I could
12:54
describe a little bit of it. Okay, maybe
12:56
I'm... Please do. All right, so there
12:58
are three major parts to a
13:00
bowling ball. There's the core,
13:02
the filler, and the
13:05
outside, which is called the
13:07
cover shock in the bowling
13:09
biz. And so big
13:11
motorized machines use polymer blends and
13:13
sort of take this liquid that then
13:15
hardens into each of the parts.
13:17
So there's a core that kind of
13:19
looks like a funny
13:21
oblong box that's full
13:23
and then that goes on
13:25
the inside. Then there's a different
13:27
kind of plastic that goes around
13:30
that and that's the round part. And
13:32
then there's a harder surface that
13:34
goes around that. Those are
13:36
the three parts and then they
13:38
paint it with all the
13:41
fun colors and that's called the
13:43
veneer. And then a big
13:45
machine uses water and kind of
13:47
sanding paper to sand it
13:49
down, depending on the level of
13:51
performance that the ball needs
13:53
to do. So at your recreational
13:55
bowling alley, those balls tend
13:57
to have less friction and can
13:59
do things that a professional bowling ball
14:01
would do. And then finally the finger
14:04
holes are drilled in. Some people who
14:06
have really sharp fingers, they don't even
14:08
have to drill them, and they just
14:10
like poke their fingers in. No, maybe
14:13
robots can do that, but not humans.
14:15
That's what I meant. When I say people,
14:17
I mean robots. I always forget. Yeah,
14:19
not everyone has drill fingers. Correct.
14:21
Yeah, which is a shortcoming. It
14:23
is. It's true. The fun part is bowling
14:26
balls, usually they have three finger holes, but
14:28
they can actually have up to 10, depending
14:30
on what you want to do with the
14:32
ball. So if you want to do like
14:35
a two-handed throw or you just want to
14:37
have different options for where you place your
14:39
fingers, you can do that. And in my
14:41
collection of balls, because it's a professional,
14:44
I just have a bunch of bowling
14:46
balls over over the years. I have one with
14:48
10, and that's one of my favorites.
14:50
Actually against the rules. Oh,
14:52
is it? Is it? You can
14:55
have up to one hole per
14:57
gripping hole per finger in your
14:59
bowling ball, but you can only
15:01
use one hand. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.
15:04
All right, but hold on, hold
15:06
on, what about spider players? You
15:08
can bowl with two hands, but
15:11
you can only have holes for
15:13
one hand. That is true, but
15:15
it would still be allowed. So
15:18
I'm going to allow this rule.
15:20
Okay Jackson, interesting that we have
15:22
some controversy on the bowling lane,
15:24
but going back to you now.
15:26
All right, this is for Tom.
15:28
What changes do you see, if any,
15:30
to bowling as a sport? Oh. Well,
15:32
there's lots of up-and-coming new technologies in
15:35
bowling. One of the most prevalent
15:37
new technologies is a string pin-setter.
15:39
So, versus traditional pins, which we
15:41
call free fall, are set by
15:43
a machine that lets go of
15:45
them in spot. Manufacturers are making
15:47
a new type of machine that
15:49
hoists the pins up with strings.
15:51
And what that does is it
15:53
removes moving parts in the machines,
15:55
it makes them run on less
15:57
energy, more efficient, there's lots of
15:59
good... reasons for it. So one
16:01
of my research projects has been
16:03
actually researching how does that change the
16:06
game if you operate the pins that
16:08
way. Some other companies like the
16:10
World Bowling just changed their brand to
16:12
the International Bowling Federation and they
16:14
like to play around with the format
16:17
of bowling as far as how
16:19
it scored or how many people bowl
16:21
in a single game and ultimately their
16:23
goal is to figure out you
16:25
know. How is bowling going to end
16:28
up in the Olympics as an
16:30
Olympic sport? So that's
16:32
kind of one of
16:34
the overarching things that
16:36
bowling's wanted to do for
16:39
a long time is join
16:41
the Olympics. And hopefully one
16:43
day we'll get there. That'd
16:46
be a really nice good
16:48
thing for bowling. Absolutely.
16:50
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16:52
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it's time for the Shorts on
19:31
Fire round. And that is when
19:33
our experts have to answer as
19:35
many questions as they can before
19:37
time runs out. Lisa will set
19:39
a timer for the first expert
19:41
and then Jackson will ask questions
19:43
until Lisa's timer sounds. Then Lisa
19:45
resets the timer for our next
19:47
expert to do the same. Experts,
19:49
get ready to strike while the
19:51
iron's hot. Jackson, let's start with
19:53
Tom. You can ask him
19:55
your Shorts on Fire
19:57
questions now. How many pins?
20:00
are set up in a bowling frame.
20:02
Ten. How fast can a pro
20:04
bowler throw a bowling ball? They can
20:06
throw a bowling ball sometimes as
20:08
fast as 30 miles an hour.
20:10
What is it called when you bowl
20:12
nine strikes in a row? A nine
20:15
bagger? Gotta whoo! What letter do you
20:17
use on a score sheet when we
20:19
get a strike? An X. What is
20:21
it called when a bowler repeats
20:24
shots? Repeatability? What
20:26
is this special kind of spare that
20:28
leaves four pins in the shape of
20:31
a diamond? The bucket. The oopsie.
20:33
Name the bowling alley where Fred
20:35
Flintstone went bowling. The
20:37
quarry lanes. I don't know.
20:40
Why do different bowling lanes
20:42
play differently? Different friction on
20:44
the lane and different oil patterns
20:46
put out on the lane. Name
20:48
one difference between house bowling
20:51
balls and custom bowling balls.
20:53
The biggest difference is the
20:56
cover stock material. And that
20:58
is time. That is the time of
21:00
our lives, we just have it. That
21:02
was it, no more time. Okay,
21:04
we are going to reset the
21:06
timer, aren't we, Lisa? You know, I
21:09
had it on my to do list
21:11
for tomorrow, but I'll just do
21:13
it today. I appreciate that. No
21:15
time like the present. Okay,
21:17
Jackson will ask questions for Molly,
21:19
now. How many strikes do you
21:21
need to get a perfect score
21:24
of 300? 12 strikes. What force
21:26
causes spinning balls to curve or
21:28
hook? The centrifugal force. What is
21:30
it called when a bowler gets
21:33
four strikes in a row? That's
21:35
called a tetrad. Who was the
21:37
youngest bowler to ever score a
21:39
perfect game in an event at
21:41
the age of nine years old?
21:44
And over first it was Hannah,
21:46
uh, past. Hannah Montana. What
21:48
do you call bowlers who use a lot
21:50
of wrist action to put a high number
21:52
of turns and power into their shots?
21:54
Oh, crankers. Show offs. That too. What
21:57
is the bowling game where the gutters are
21:59
all blocked? Oh, that's bumper bowling. What
22:01
is it called when there are two
22:03
or more pins that are separated by
22:06
a large gap on the second shot?
22:08
Split. A problem. It was the character
22:10
who fell asleep for 20 years after
22:13
playing nine pins all night and woke
22:15
up after we slept through the American
22:17
Revolution. Oh, I have a cat named
22:19
this, through fan winkle. Okay. This time.
22:22
That is time. Very good. That was
22:24
great. That match felt like a clean
22:26
game for both of you. It's
22:31
decision time. Jackson must split truth
22:33
from lies to figure out who
22:36
is fibbing. Jackson, who is our
22:38
big fiver? I think it's Molly.
22:40
Why do you think Molly is
22:43
our big fiver? Tom gave more
22:45
explanatory, however you say that word.
22:48
He gave a lot more big
22:50
answers. And Molly, I couldn't... A
22:52
lot of the stuff, some of
22:55
it was correct, some of it
22:57
I don't think was. Okay, okay.
22:59
That's why I think that Molly
23:02
is the liar. Okay, so Tom
23:04
used a lot of details and
23:07
explanations. Molly's questions, you're skeptical about
23:09
a couple of the answers. Very
23:11
good thinking, I like all of
23:14
that logic, but let's see if
23:16
you are correct. Will the bowling
23:19
expert? Will the bowling expert? I'm
23:21
Tom Frenzel and I'm the bowling expert.
23:24
You got it right! Oh my gosh,
23:26
that's right. Tom Frenzel is a bowling
23:28
science expert who oversees research projects at
23:30
the United States Bowling Congress, a non-profit
23:33
that provides rules and regulations for certified
23:35
bowling competitions for the entire country. How
23:37
cool! Okay, that was very good, Jackson.
23:40
I'm very impressed. But it is time
23:42
to do some fact-checking. Tom, let's address
23:44
some of the lies you heard. Well,
23:46
the first thing that was skeptical was,
23:49
and actually, like, the first question when
23:51
you asked her something scary. and
23:53
she said she
23:55
dislocated her, I think
23:58
she said ring
24:00
finger. It's actually much
24:02
more common for
24:04
a thumb to get
24:07
injured than a
24:09
finger. Interchangeable thumb inserts
24:11
can break and come out mid -release
24:13
and they can really hurt your thumb
24:15
joint. Interesting, okay. In addition to that,
24:17
I brought up that she was talking
24:19
about bowling with illegal equipment that had
24:22
too many holes in it. I couldn't
24:24
let that slide because I'm in the
24:26
equipment specs department so I can't let
24:28
that slide. You had to speak up.
24:30
10 holes was pretty suspicious. It was,
24:32
but I bought it. I thought it
24:34
was a possibility. It's believable if you
24:36
read our manual, it says one hole
24:38
per finger, but then it also says
24:40
for one hand only. The next thing
24:43
I heard is she said something about
24:45
having an agent to be a professional
24:47
bowler. Professional bowlers don't have agents. Well,
24:49
maybe they should. For the most part,
24:51
they're on their own for getting to
24:53
and from events and figuring that aspect
24:55
out of it. Okay, but once they
24:57
bring bowling onto the Olympics, I think
24:59
that'll change the whole game. Maybe, you
25:01
know, the PBA's got a league where
25:04
they have teams in cities now. They
25:06
bowl every summer. You can watch the
25:08
PBA league, so that's fun. Yeah. You
25:10
know, we have Team USA. There's a
25:12
group of about 20 male and female
25:14
athletes that actually train here in Arlington,
25:16
Texas. Cool. So we do have some
25:18
teams in addition to the professional tours,
25:20
but most the tours are individual competition.
25:22
Okay. Of course, she mentioned like an
25:25
oblong box which is not wrong, but
25:27
they can really come in any shape
25:29
and size. And then I would just
25:31
add that cover stocks really come in
25:33
three main flavors. Strawberry. Polyester
25:35
is the lowest friction that slides
25:37
the furthest. Urethane is kind of
25:40
a middle ground and the ones
25:42
that really hook the most are
25:44
called reactive resin. Well. So your
25:46
explanation definitely got the gist of
25:48
it, but there's just a little bit
25:50
deeper. Yes. The video that I
25:52
watched to teach me about bowling
25:54
balls didn't tell me about the
25:56
three kinds of cover stocks. So
25:58
I appreciate it, Tom. Did you
26:00
watch like the how it's made? on
26:02
YouTube from like 15 years ago. Yeah, it's a really good video.
26:04
It's a really good video. Okay, you heard
26:06
it here. Okay, Molly, which facts did
26:08
you share that were a complete washout?
26:11
Well, Tom was right about the
26:13
details that I, you know, fibbed
26:15
about. But also, the force causing
26:17
spitting balls to curve or hook
26:19
is friction, not the centripital
26:22
force. Oh, that sounded good. Yeah.
26:24
And when a bowler gets four
26:26
strikes in a row, that is
26:28
a hambone. Yeah, but I like
26:30
your name better. The Tetran. I'm just
26:32
calling it the Tetran. Oh nice, look
26:35
what you started, Molly, that's awesome. Excellent,
26:37
excellent. And then of course, the thing
26:39
about the agents, but when I become
26:41
a professional bowler in my third career, I'm
26:43
going to have an agent. Good. We're
26:45
going to look out for that. Okay,
26:47
and the youngest bowler to ever score
26:49
a perfect game was actually Hannah Diem.
26:51
She was nine years old, which is
26:54
pretty impressive, I have to say. And the
26:56
name of the bowling alley
26:58
where Fred Flintstone went bowling
27:00
was Bedrock Bowl. Yeah, that's a
27:03
good one. Makes sense. We are
27:05
approaching the position round of our
27:07
match and we must take our
27:09
leave. Thanks to our contestant Jackson,
27:11
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27:13
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27:15
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27:17
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