Can you pin all the lies about Bowling?

Can you pin all the lies about Bowling?

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a historian. An astronaut or

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driver of Delorean. Would I

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lie? It's hard to say.

1:38

This is the Big Phib. And now,

1:40

here's your host, Deborah Goldstein. Welcome to

1:42

the Big Phib, the game show where

1:44

kids choose between the lost-it-hambone of

1:46

truth and the sour apple deadwood

1:48

of lies. I'm your host, Deborah

1:50

Goldstein, and in the studio today

1:53

is our sound effects robot, Lisa,

1:55

whose name stands for live in

1:57

studio audience. And the next sound you'll

1:59

hear. will be the sound of an

2:01

email message I received that I have

2:03

digitized for your listening pleasure. Oh, fun.

2:05

Yes, do play the listener question for

2:08

us. I said the next sound would

2:10

be the digitized message, but then you

2:12

had to chime in with your, oh,

2:14

fun, please, a question for us, play

2:16

the question for us. I'm sorry. Okay,

2:19

do it again, and this time, I'll

2:21

wait for you to play the file.

2:23

You know what, you ruined the moment.

2:25

Oh. I'm just gonna play it. Okay,

2:27

but I'm really sorry. Oh, I'm sorry.

2:30

Do robots have fast food? Oh, you

2:32

want to answer? Yes, please. Well, I

2:34

mean, I guess all robot food is

2:36

fast food. You see, we don't even

2:38

wait to chew our food before we

2:40

swallow it. Oh, kids don't try that

2:43

at home. We try to eat as

2:45

quickly as possible because the faster the

2:47

food goes down, the better, the burp.

2:49

Again, please don't try that at home.

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Lisa, can you even taste the food

2:54

if you eat that fast without chewing?

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Ah, sure. Our Android mounts are equipped

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with hundreds of sensors that scan and

3:00

analyze and scan and scan analyze all

3:02

the flavor components in a nanosecond. Okay,

3:04

and why do you try to eat

3:07

so fast to generate burps? I'm a

3:09

sound effects row about Deborah, and making

3:11

fast food burp and sounds is just

3:13

plain fun. And then I can save

3:15

each burp sound into my burp and

3:18

folder. Let's see if I can play

3:20

one for you. Oh my! That was

3:22

my whipped cream-covered lasagna burp? Oh, delightful.

3:24

Oh, that was the meatloaf Seltzer burb.

3:26

Okay, I think we're good now. We

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get the picture. I mean, you want

3:31

a picture of that? No, definitely not.

3:33

Okay, do you want to hear my

3:35

moldy pineapple pizza omelet burp? Well, that

3:37

sounds very tempting. I think we really

3:39

need to move on. So thank you

3:42

for telling us about fast food. Now,

3:44

please tell us about how our game

3:46

works. Every week, we bring on two

3:48

grown-ups. One, yeah, expert.

3:50

Other, boo, liar.

3:53

And it's the job

3:55

of a human

3:57

child to help us

3:59

figure out who

4:01

is who because no

4:04

one can spot

4:06

a liar better than

4:08

a kid. What

4:10

are we lying about

4:12

today, Deborah? We

4:14

are lying about bowling a game in

4:16

which large, heavy balls are rolled down

4:18

a lane to knock down pins. Let's

4:21

learn about bowling with our big fib

4:23

contestant. Who would our contestant be today,

4:25

Lisa? Our human child contestant

4:27

is a 10 -year -old who

4:29

wants to be a marine biologist,

4:31

Jackson Todd. Hello, Jackson

4:33

Todd. How are you? Good.

4:36

Excellent. Tell us, why do you

4:38

want to be a marine

4:40

biologist? Because I believe that fish

4:42

are friends. And I love

4:44

the ocean. Yes, the ocean sounds

4:46

lovely and looks lovely and

4:48

is lovely to be in. It's

4:50

like a bowling alley. It's like a

4:52

bowling alley. We are going to learn

4:54

more about you, Jackson. We're going

4:56

to do that by playing two truths

4:59

and a lie. You, Jackson, will

5:01

tell us three facts about yourself. Two

5:03

of those facts will be in fact true.

5:05

One of those facts will be in

5:07

fact a lie. And we have to figure

5:09

out which one it is, Jackson. Tell

5:11

us your three facts. I can solve a

5:14

three -by -three Rubish cube in less than

5:16

two minutes. Whoa. I have a fish named

5:18

Bubbles. I wrote a book called Operation

5:20

Aqua. OK, well, I feel like this could

5:22

be a trap in some way. What

5:24

do you think, Lisa? Yes, it's

5:26

clearly a trap, but I am

5:28

too clever to fall into

5:30

it. He says he wrote a

5:33

book titled Operation Aqua. Aqua,

5:35

Aqua. Aqua. See, that was the

5:37

first part of his trap,

5:39

very clever. He says he is

5:41

a pet fish named Bubbles.

5:43

Yes. And previously, he said

5:46

that fish are friends. He

5:48

says he can solve a three -by -three

5:51

Rubish cube in less than two minutes.

5:53

He does say that. He says

5:55

all these things, but what he

5:57

does not say. And I present

5:59

to you now. His friend the fish?

6:01

Yes? Is named Ronald. That one

6:03

is the lie. Nice try, dude.

6:06

Okay, is that true? Which one

6:08

of those facts is actually a

6:11

lie? I have a fish named

6:13

Bubbles. You got it correct?

6:15

Told you. Yeah, it's Ronald.

6:17

Oh my gosh, Lisa. I

6:19

don't even have a fish.

6:21

He doesn't even have a

6:23

fish. I knew it was a trap.

6:25

I will, once I have space for

6:28

it. Where would I put the water?

6:30

Good question. You got pockets, don't you?

6:32

You got a pocket aquarium. That was

6:34

very good lying, I have to say,

6:36

Jackson, which means to me, you're probably

6:39

going to figure out who are a

6:41

liar is pretty easily. That's what I'm

6:43

thinking. And what do you know about

6:45

bowling, Jackson? Have you ever gone bowling?

6:47

Yes, I have. In fact, my brother

6:50

was in a bowling tournament. Wow. Whoa.

6:52

That's cool. So you went to go

6:54

see him play. Oh I see, okay,

6:56

but maybe it's just in

6:58

the blood, right? Something you're

7:00

just born to do and

7:02

born knowing about. All right,

7:04

we are going to get

7:06

on with the game, Lisa, can

7:09

we get some music for

7:11

our bowling experts? Here,

7:13

they come, they're have

7:15

some balls in the

7:17

hand and watch out

7:19

pins, they're bowling experts!

7:22

Our first expert is

7:24

Tom Frenzel. Tom, please

7:27

introduce yourself to Jackson.

7:29

Hi, I'm Tom Frenzel

7:31

and I am a

7:34

bowling scientist. Okay, thank

7:36

you Tom. Let's meet

7:38

our second expert, Molly

7:40

Carmona. Molly, please introduce

7:43

yourself to Jackson. Hello,

7:45

I'm Molly and I'm

7:48

a professional bowler with

7:50

the PWA. Okay. Tell

7:54

us about

7:57

those sounds.

8:00

you're rolling out Lisa? I'm rolling

8:02

out sounds because it's hot seat

8:04

time! That is correct it is hot

8:06

seat time that's when we put our

8:08

experts on the hot seat while they

8:11

answer Jackson's questions. Lisa whom should we

8:13

put on the hot seat first? I'm

8:15

going with Molly Carmona because her name

8:17

sounds like Holy Canole, which is fun

8:19

to shout. You ever shout it? Holy

8:21

Canole! And then you could do, Molly,

8:24

Comeona! Oh yeah, that does have a ring

8:26

to it. I kind of like it. Sort of

8:28

fun. I like it. It's what I do on

8:30

the weekends. Nice. Okay, Jackson, you're going

8:32

to ask your first question to

8:34

Molly. What is that question? What

8:36

was the scariest thing that ever

8:38

happened in your work? Yeah, I think

8:41

the scariest thing was at

8:43

one of my early tournaments

8:45

in my professional career. I

8:47

was in the middle of

8:49

a swing and my index

8:51

finger hadn't totally released from

8:53

the ball when it was

8:55

flying through the air. So

8:57

I actually dislocated my playing

8:59

finger and it was more

9:01

scary than dangerous. It was

9:03

very painful, but you know,

9:05

with physical therapy and everything,

9:07

we're back in the saddle. Oh my

9:09

gosh, there's a saddle in bowling? There

9:11

was that day, yes. I see. Okay,

9:13

now take it away, Jackson. This is

9:15

for both of you. How did you

9:18

get into the bowling business? So for

9:20

me, I have always enjoyed bowling

9:22

from when I was a kid, and

9:24

there's a movie that I watched that

9:26

really got me into it. If you

9:28

remember, the Flintstone's movie, I

9:30

think just watching the characters

9:33

kind of do the twinkle-toos thing

9:35

was always very fun for me.

9:37

So I asked my parents to

9:40

take me bowling and they saw that

9:42

I really had a love for it

9:44

and not just to tell it,

9:46

but I really really enjoyed it.

9:48

So I signed up for my

9:51

high school league and then

9:53

bold for my college team

9:55

in Boston, Massachusetts and was

9:58

scouted to join the PWA. ever

10:00

since for about 10 years. Wow. Okay, Tom? Sure.

10:02

Yeah, we all love Fred Flintstone. He's great.

10:04

Kind of similar, I started taking

10:07

bowling lessons when I was 11.

10:09

I got into it because my brother was

10:11

into it and I wanted to be like

10:13

my big brother, right? So, but we took

10:15

bowling lessons and bold league until we were

10:18

about ready to go to college and we

10:20

kind of dropped out of it for a

10:22

while, but I ended up going to college

10:24

and getting a degree in physics. And I

10:26

was looking for a job after college and

10:29

wasn't really finding much. And when I found

10:31

the posting for a bowling research engineer, I'm

10:33

like, okay, I got youth bowling and I've

10:35

got physics. So if I don't get this,

10:37

I'm not going to get a job. So

10:40

luckily I got that job and I've been

10:42

here for about eight years now. Yeah,

10:44

because everyone knows that when you

10:46

study physics, that's a path to bowling.

10:48

Naturally. It's a gateway. Yeah. Go ahead,

10:50

Jackson. requirements or experience needed to

10:53

get your job and that one's from

10:55

Molly? Well I think really the beautiful

10:57

thing about professional bowling is that it

10:59

really just comes down to the talent

11:01

as long as you have experience with

11:04

bowling and you're able to compete at

11:06

that level. One thing I guess you

11:08

need is an agent so I was

11:10

bowling for my college team and then

11:12

after I graduated I was put in

11:14

contact with somebody from one of

11:17

my networks on the bowling team.

11:19

someone who could help sort of

11:21

make the connections between me and

11:23

the professionals. And so I guess that's one

11:25

thing that you need, but I think it's

11:28

one of the fairer sports where there

11:30

aren't as many barriers to entry

11:32

because it's really just talent

11:34

and having someone who can make

11:36

the first connection for you. Hmm.

11:39

Tom, how was bowling invented? That's

11:41

a great question. And honestly, it dates

11:43

all the way back to the Egyptians.

11:45

So, I mean, people have been setting

11:47

up sticks and knocking them down with

11:50

balls for a very, very, very long

11:52

time. It was popularized in America

11:54

in the 1800s, and it got

11:56

more and more popular, and my

11:58

company that I worked for was

12:00

actually founded in 1895

12:02

as the American Bowling Congress.

12:04

So we've got about

12:06

126 years of regulating bowling,

12:09

including equipment and how the game is

12:11

played to morph it into what it

12:13

is today. The ancient

12:16

Egyptians, have you ever seen

12:18

the pyramids? Those were

12:20

originally bowling pins. Not

12:22

sure about that, but surely you've

12:24

heard the song Bow Like an

12:26

Egyptian. Bow Like an Egyptian. 190

12:32

points. Yeah, that's the one. That

12:36

was a good song. Yeah, classic. Go

12:38

ahead, Jackson. All right, this one's for

12:40

both of you. How are bowling balls

12:42

made? You have to pick them

12:44

when they're ripe and you pick them

12:46

off the tree and then you peel

12:48

them and then you polish them and

12:50

then you drill the holes in. That's

12:52

part of the process, Lisa, but I could

12:54

describe a little bit of it. Okay, maybe

12:56

I'm... Please do. All right, so there

12:58

are three major parts to a

13:00

bowling ball. There's the core,

13:02

the filler, and the

13:05

outside, which is called the

13:07

cover shock in the bowling

13:09

biz. And so big

13:11

motorized machines use polymer blends and

13:13

sort of take this liquid that then

13:15

hardens into each of the parts.

13:17

So there's a core that kind of

13:19

looks like a funny

13:21

oblong box that's full

13:23

and then that goes on

13:25

the inside. Then there's a different

13:27

kind of plastic that goes around

13:30

that and that's the round part. And

13:32

then there's a harder surface that

13:34

goes around that. Those are

13:36

the three parts and then they

13:38

paint it with all the

13:41

fun colors and that's called the

13:43

veneer. And then a big

13:45

machine uses water and kind of

13:47

sanding paper to sand it

13:49

down, depending on the level of

13:51

performance that the ball needs

13:53

to do. So at your recreational

13:55

bowling alley, those balls tend

13:57

to have less friction and can

13:59

do things that a professional bowling ball

14:01

would do. And then finally the finger

14:04

holes are drilled in. Some people who

14:06

have really sharp fingers, they don't even

14:08

have to drill them, and they just

14:10

like poke their fingers in. No, maybe

14:13

robots can do that, but not humans.

14:15

That's what I meant. When I say people,

14:17

I mean robots. I always forget. Yeah,

14:19

not everyone has drill fingers. Correct.

14:21

Yeah, which is a shortcoming. It

14:23

is. It's true. The fun part is bowling

14:26

balls, usually they have three finger holes, but

14:28

they can actually have up to 10, depending

14:30

on what you want to do with the

14:32

ball. So if you want to do like

14:35

a two-handed throw or you just want to

14:37

have different options for where you place your

14:39

fingers, you can do that. And in my

14:41

collection of balls, because it's a professional,

14:44

I just have a bunch of bowling

14:46

balls over over the years. I have one with

14:48

10, and that's one of my favorites.

14:50

Actually against the rules. Oh,

14:52

is it? Is it? You can

14:55

have up to one hole per

14:57

gripping hole per finger in your

14:59

bowling ball, but you can only

15:01

use one hand. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.

15:04

All right, but hold on, hold

15:06

on, what about spider players? You

15:08

can bowl with two hands, but

15:11

you can only have holes for

15:13

one hand. That is true, but

15:15

it would still be allowed. So

15:18

I'm going to allow this rule.

15:20

Okay Jackson, interesting that we have

15:22

some controversy on the bowling lane,

15:24

but going back to you now.

15:26

All right, this is for Tom.

15:28

What changes do you see, if any,

15:30

to bowling as a sport? Oh. Well,

15:32

there's lots of up-and-coming new technologies in

15:35

bowling. One of the most prevalent

15:37

new technologies is a string pin-setter.

15:39

So, versus traditional pins, which we

15:41

call free fall, are set by

15:43

a machine that lets go of

15:45

them in spot. Manufacturers are making

15:47

a new type of machine that

15:49

hoists the pins up with strings.

15:51

And what that does is it

15:53

removes moving parts in the machines,

15:55

it makes them run on less

15:57

energy, more efficient, there's lots of

15:59

good... reasons for it. So one

16:01

of my research projects has been

16:03

actually researching how does that change the

16:06

game if you operate the pins that

16:08

way. Some other companies like the

16:10

World Bowling just changed their brand to

16:12

the International Bowling Federation and they

16:14

like to play around with the format

16:17

of bowling as far as how

16:19

it scored or how many people bowl

16:21

in a single game and ultimately their

16:23

goal is to figure out you

16:25

know. How is bowling going to end

16:28

up in the Olympics as an

16:30

Olympic sport? So that's

16:32

kind of one of

16:34

the overarching things that

16:36

bowling's wanted to do for

16:39

a long time is join

16:41

the Olympics. And hopefully one

16:43

day we'll get there. That'd

16:46

be a really nice good

16:48

thing for bowling. Absolutely.

16:50

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16:52

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it's time for the Shorts on

19:31

Fire round. And that is when

19:33

our experts have to answer as

19:35

many questions as they can before

19:37

time runs out. Lisa will set

19:39

a timer for the first expert

19:41

and then Jackson will ask questions

19:43

until Lisa's timer sounds. Then Lisa

19:45

resets the timer for our next

19:47

expert to do the same. Experts,

19:49

get ready to strike while the

19:51

iron's hot. Jackson, let's start with

19:53

Tom. You can ask him

19:55

your Shorts on Fire

19:57

questions now. How many pins?

20:00

are set up in a bowling frame.

20:02

Ten. How fast can a pro

20:04

bowler throw a bowling ball? They can

20:06

throw a bowling ball sometimes as

20:08

fast as 30 miles an hour.

20:10

What is it called when you bowl

20:12

nine strikes in a row? A nine

20:15

bagger? Gotta whoo! What letter do you

20:17

use on a score sheet when we

20:19

get a strike? An X. What is

20:21

it called when a bowler repeats

20:24

shots? Repeatability? What

20:26

is this special kind of spare that

20:28

leaves four pins in the shape of

20:31

a diamond? The bucket. The oopsie.

20:33

Name the bowling alley where Fred

20:35

Flintstone went bowling. The

20:37

quarry lanes. I don't know.

20:40

Why do different bowling lanes

20:42

play differently? Different friction on

20:44

the lane and different oil patterns

20:46

put out on the lane. Name

20:48

one difference between house bowling

20:51

balls and custom bowling balls.

20:53

The biggest difference is the

20:56

cover stock material. And that

20:58

is time. That is the time of

21:00

our lives, we just have it. That

21:02

was it, no more time. Okay,

21:04

we are going to reset the

21:06

timer, aren't we, Lisa? You know, I

21:09

had it on my to do list

21:11

for tomorrow, but I'll just do

21:13

it today. I appreciate that. No

21:15

time like the present. Okay,

21:17

Jackson will ask questions for Molly,

21:19

now. How many strikes do you

21:21

need to get a perfect score

21:24

of 300? 12 strikes. What force

21:26

causes spinning balls to curve or

21:28

hook? The centrifugal force. What is

21:30

it called when a bowler gets

21:33

four strikes in a row? That's

21:35

called a tetrad. Who was the

21:37

youngest bowler to ever score a

21:39

perfect game in an event at

21:41

the age of nine years old?

21:44

And over first it was Hannah,

21:46

uh, past. Hannah Montana. What

21:48

do you call bowlers who use a lot

21:50

of wrist action to put a high number

21:52

of turns and power into their shots?

21:54

Oh, crankers. Show offs. That too. What

21:57

is the bowling game where the gutters are

21:59

all blocked? Oh, that's bumper bowling. What

22:01

is it called when there are two

22:03

or more pins that are separated by

22:06

a large gap on the second shot?

22:08

Split. A problem. It was the character

22:10

who fell asleep for 20 years after

22:13

playing nine pins all night and woke

22:15

up after we slept through the American

22:17

Revolution. Oh, I have a cat named

22:19

this, through fan winkle. Okay. This time.

22:22

That is time. Very good. That was

22:24

great. That match felt like a clean

22:26

game for both of you. It's

22:31

decision time. Jackson must split truth

22:33

from lies to figure out who

22:36

is fibbing. Jackson, who is our

22:38

big fiver? I think it's Molly.

22:40

Why do you think Molly is

22:43

our big fiver? Tom gave more

22:45

explanatory, however you say that word.

22:48

He gave a lot more big

22:50

answers. And Molly, I couldn't... A

22:52

lot of the stuff, some of

22:55

it was correct, some of it

22:57

I don't think was. Okay, okay.

22:59

That's why I think that Molly

23:02

is the liar. Okay, so Tom

23:04

used a lot of details and

23:07

explanations. Molly's questions, you're skeptical about

23:09

a couple of the answers. Very

23:11

good thinking, I like all of

23:14

that logic, but let's see if

23:16

you are correct. Will the bowling

23:19

expert? Will the bowling expert? I'm

23:21

Tom Frenzel and I'm the bowling expert.

23:24

You got it right! Oh my gosh,

23:26

that's right. Tom Frenzel is a bowling

23:28

science expert who oversees research projects at

23:30

the United States Bowling Congress, a non-profit

23:33

that provides rules and regulations for certified

23:35

bowling competitions for the entire country. How

23:37

cool! Okay, that was very good, Jackson.

23:40

I'm very impressed. But it is time

23:42

to do some fact-checking. Tom, let's address

23:44

some of the lies you heard. Well,

23:46

the first thing that was skeptical was,

23:49

and actually, like, the first question when

23:51

you asked her something scary. and

23:53

she said she

23:55

dislocated her, I think

23:58

she said ring

24:00

finger. It's actually much

24:02

more common for

24:04

a thumb to get

24:07

injured than a

24:09

finger. Interchangeable thumb inserts

24:11

can break and come out mid -release

24:13

and they can really hurt your thumb

24:15

joint. Interesting, okay. In addition to that,

24:17

I brought up that she was talking

24:19

about bowling with illegal equipment that had

24:22

too many holes in it. I couldn't

24:24

let that slide because I'm in the

24:26

equipment specs department so I can't let

24:28

that slide. You had to speak up.

24:30

10 holes was pretty suspicious. It was,

24:32

but I bought it. I thought it

24:34

was a possibility. It's believable if you

24:36

read our manual, it says one hole

24:38

per finger, but then it also says

24:40

for one hand only. The next thing

24:43

I heard is she said something about

24:45

having an agent to be a professional

24:47

bowler. Professional bowlers don't have agents. Well,

24:49

maybe they should. For the most part,

24:51

they're on their own for getting to

24:53

and from events and figuring that aspect

24:55

out of it. Okay, but once they

24:57

bring bowling onto the Olympics, I think

24:59

that'll change the whole game. Maybe, you

25:01

know, the PBA's got a league where

25:04

they have teams in cities now. They

25:06

bowl every summer. You can watch the

25:08

PBA league, so that's fun. Yeah. You

25:10

know, we have Team USA. There's a

25:12

group of about 20 male and female

25:14

athletes that actually train here in Arlington,

25:16

Texas. Cool. So we do have some

25:18

teams in addition to the professional tours,

25:20

but most the tours are individual competition.

25:22

Okay. Of course, she mentioned like an

25:25

oblong box which is not wrong, but

25:27

they can really come in any shape

25:29

and size. And then I would just

25:31

add that cover stocks really come in

25:33

three main flavors. Strawberry. Polyester

25:35

is the lowest friction that slides

25:37

the furthest. Urethane is kind of

25:40

a middle ground and the ones

25:42

that really hook the most are

25:44

called reactive resin. Well. So your

25:46

explanation definitely got the gist of

25:48

it, but there's just a little bit

25:50

deeper. Yes. The video that I

25:52

watched to teach me about bowling

25:54

balls didn't tell me about the

25:56

three kinds of cover stocks. So

25:58

I appreciate it, Tom. Did you

26:00

watch like the how it's made? on

26:02

YouTube from like 15 years ago. Yeah, it's a really good video.

26:04

It's a really good video. Okay, you heard

26:06

it here. Okay, Molly, which facts did

26:08

you share that were a complete washout?

26:11

Well, Tom was right about the

26:13

details that I, you know, fibbed

26:15

about. But also, the force causing

26:17

spitting balls to curve or hook

26:19

is friction, not the centripital

26:22

force. Oh, that sounded good. Yeah.

26:24

And when a bowler gets four

26:26

strikes in a row, that is

26:28

a hambone. Yeah, but I like

26:30

your name better. The Tetran. I'm just

26:32

calling it the Tetran. Oh nice, look

26:35

what you started, Molly, that's awesome. Excellent,

26:37

excellent. And then of course, the thing

26:39

about the agents, but when I become

26:41

a professional bowler in my third career, I'm

26:43

going to have an agent. Good. We're

26:45

going to look out for that. Okay,

26:47

and the youngest bowler to ever score

26:49

a perfect game was actually Hannah Diem.

26:51

She was nine years old, which is

26:54

pretty impressive, I have to say. And the

26:56

name of the bowling alley

26:58

where Fred Flintstone went bowling

27:00

was Bedrock Bowl. Yeah, that's a

27:03

good one. Makes sense. We are

27:05

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27:07

match and we must take our

27:09

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