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Yep, they do. Deborah Goldstein.

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astronomical chromatic spectroscopy of

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truth and the

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distorted spherical aberration

1:57

of lies. I'm

2:00

your host, Deborah Goldstein, and

2:02

in the studio today is

2:04

our sound effects robot, Lisa,

2:07

whose name stands for live

2:09

in studio audience. Lisa? Where are

2:11

you? That's odd. He was just

2:13

here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm

2:15

here. Hold on, sorry. Hey, sorry

2:17

I'm late. Sorry about that. Where

2:19

did you go? You were just

2:21

here for the sound check. Yeah,

2:23

sorry about that, Deborah. I forgot

2:25

that I had to take the

2:27

soda can out of the freezer,

2:29

but now it's been 72 hours,

2:31

so I think it's ready. Ready?

2:33

You left it in the freezer

2:36

for 72 hours? It's probably frozen

2:38

now. Yep, nothing like a soda

2:40

popsicle. I ate the whole thing.

2:42

Can and all. Oh. Pardon

2:44

me. Oh my. And now I

2:46

have a listener question to play,

2:48

but first. Pardon me. Okay. Oh

2:50

great, let's hear it please. Hi,

2:53

I'm Spencer and hi, I'm Evelyn.

2:55

And we want to know if

2:57

robots can eat Christmas cookies. Thanks,

2:59

thanks. I am so glad you

3:01

asked Evelyn and Spencer. I was

3:03

just thinking to myself. That's what

3:05

I call myself. I said. Who

3:07

was going to bake Christmas cookies

3:10

for me this year? And now

3:12

I know that I can count

3:14

on Evelyn and Spencer to bake

3:16

them for me. So just to

3:18

let you know, I especially like

3:20

the kind that are decorated. They

3:22

look like ornaments. They have lots

3:24

of icing and sprinkles on them.

3:27

So that would be great. Okay,

3:29

hang on, Lisa, hang on. They

3:31

didn't offer to bake you Christmas

3:33

cookies. They just wanted to know

3:35

if you can eat them. I

3:37

guess because you're a robot because

3:39

you're a robot. and digestive, you

3:41

know. Yeah, okay, yeah, okay, yes.

3:43

But taking the conversation to its

3:46

logical and inevitable conclusion, Evelyn and

3:48

Spencer are clearly asking so that

3:50

they don't go to the trouble

3:52

of baking Christmas cookies for me

3:54

if I'm not gonna eat them.

3:56

And since I. and we'll eat

3:58

them and may have already eaten

4:00

them, the only thoughtful thing to

4:03

do would be to tell them

4:05

exactly what kind I'd like to

4:07

eat. So. Kids, you can send

4:09

about two dozen, three dozen Christmas

4:11

cookies decorated like ornaments to Lisa

4:13

in care of Genzi Media at

4:15

post office box for five. No,

4:17

no, no, no, no, no. Evelyn

4:20

and Spencer, you do not have

4:22

to send Lisa Christmas cookies. Lisa,

4:24

you and I can do some

4:26

baking this year, okay, and we'll

4:28

make our own, yeah? Bad, Deborah!

4:30

We're gonna get free cookies! No,

4:32

no, no, no, no, please do

4:34

not ask listeners, listeners to make...

4:37

buy or give you things. Their

4:39

support is gift enough and we

4:41

appreciate all of them for tuning

4:43

in. Yeah, a bunch. But I'm

4:45

just, and it's not for me

4:47

Deborah, I'm just thinking about them.

4:49

They were really excited to make

4:51

them and you've earned it. I

4:54

think they'll understand. Okay, so now

4:56

I'd love for all of our

4:58

listeners to understand how our game

5:00

works. Can you help them with

5:02

that please? Okay, I don't know

5:04

what my motivation is anymore, but

5:06

fine. Okay, I'll do it out

5:08

of the goodness of my mechanical

5:11

heart and without expectations of a

5:13

single. Christmas cookie or two to

5:15

three dozen. I will explain how

5:17

our game works every week. We

5:19

bring on two grownups. One is

5:21

an expert, the other is a

5:23

liar, they give me cookies, and

5:25

it's the job of a human

5:27

child to help us figure out

5:30

who was who because no one

5:32

could spot a liar better than

5:34

a kid. What are we lying

5:36

about today, Deborah? We are lying

5:38

about telescopes instruments that allow people

5:40

to see distant objects and we're

5:42

going to learn all about telescopes

5:44

along with our. contestant today who

5:47

might that be Lisa a human

5:49

child contestant is an eight-year-old who

5:51

loves building with architecture Lego sets

5:53

Connor alone welcome Connor how are

5:55

you good great tell us about

5:57

these architecture sets what do they

5:59

look like so they're basically Lego

6:01

sets and if you build them

6:04

correctly They look like different cities

6:06

or landmarks like the Statue of

6:08

Liberty or the Taj Mahal. Wow,

6:10

super cool. How long does it

6:12

take you to build one of

6:14

those? It actually depends because some

6:16

have around a hundred pieces in

6:18

my biggest one to Todd Mahal

6:21

has two thousand and twenty two

6:23

pieces. Wow! Very cool, I love

6:25

it. Well, we are going to

6:27

learn some more fun facts about

6:29

you, Connor, but we are going

6:31

to do it playing our game.

6:33

Two truths and a lie. You,

6:35

Connor, are going to share with

6:38

us three things. Two of those

6:40

things will be true. One will

6:42

be a lie and we have

6:44

to figure out. Which one is

6:46

the lie and how good of

6:48

a liar you are? So in

6:50

no particular order, tell us your

6:52

two truths and one lie. I've

6:54

been stung by a Joey fish.

6:57

I have my own website and

6:59

I rode on a horse at

7:01

my friend's birthday party. Okay, I

7:03

hope he wasn't stung by a

7:05

jellyfish, but it would be a

7:07

good lie though, right Lisa? Yeah,

7:09

it would be a good lie,

7:11

but sadly it is not a

7:14

lie, it is true, because it's

7:16

pretty obvious what happened here. Uh-huh.

7:18

He was at a birthday party,

7:20

his friend's birthday party. Suddenly there

7:22

was a jellyfish and said, hey,

7:24

do you know where the bathroom

7:26

was? And then Connor didn't know

7:28

how to speak. jellyfish and then

7:31

the jellyfish got mad and then

7:33

stung him. And then Connor's friend

7:35

said, oh no, let's get out

7:37

of here. But they said, how

7:39

are we going to out run

7:41

a jellyfish? And Connor's friend said,

7:43

oh, we could use my dad's

7:45

horse. And then they rode on

7:48

the horse, and then they got

7:50

out of there. And then later

7:52

they were looking up in a

7:54

jellyfish dictionary, and Connor felt bad.

7:56

He was like, oh, that jellyfish

7:58

just wanted to use the bathroom,

8:00

but it still does have anger

8:02

issues. So anyway, the website's the

8:05

line. Thank you. Let's see if

8:07

that is correct. Connor, which of

8:09

those things is actually a lie?

8:11

The why is I've been stung

8:13

by a jellyfish. Oh, I'm so

8:15

glad that was a lie. Oh

8:17

my gosh, incorrect, Lisa, incorrect. That's

8:19

very weird. It is, but good.

8:22

I'm so glad. So that means

8:24

that you have ridden on a

8:26

horse at your friend's birthday party?

8:28

Yes. Oh, I know what it

8:30

was. Was it to get away

8:32

from your website? It was for

8:34

fun. Oh, just for fun. I

8:36

remember fun. Yeah. And that means

8:38

that you do have your own

8:41

website, Connor? Tell me about it.

8:43

It's called... Cool Sea creatures.com. And

8:45

so what are we going to

8:47

find on that website? Mostly cool

8:49

facts about Sea Creatures, like the

8:51

name of the website says. Right,

8:53

I should have guessed, right. When

8:55

I get over, I want to

8:58

be a marine biologist. Wow, cool.

9:00

Well, the sea is a super

9:02

cool place, and so. is space.

9:04

And I mention that because we

9:06

are going to learn more about

9:08

space and how to look at

9:10

it with telescopes. Do you know

9:12

much about telescopes, Connor? Yeah, I

9:15

did a lot of research. Oh,

9:17

good. All right, watch out fibber,

9:19

whoever you are. So let's meet

9:21

our telescopes experts. Lisa, would you

9:23

mind playing some welcome music for

9:25

our telescopes experts? Sure. Oh, come

9:27

on in, but don't stand too

9:29

close, because I'm using a telescope.

9:32

You would know that if you're

9:34

an expert, that's all of the

9:36

song I wrote so far. Nice

9:38

one. All right, let's meet our

9:40

first expert, Levi Scudder. Levi, please

9:42

introduce yourself to Connor. Hey, Connor,

9:44

my name is Levi. I'm the

9:46

Visitor Experience Associate at Lowell Observatory

9:49

in Arizona. Cool, okay, thank you

9:51

very much. Our next expert is

9:53

Patty Boyd. Patty, please introduce yourself

9:55

to Connor. Hi, Connor, my name

9:57

is Patty and I'm an astrophysicist

9:59

at... I hear the sound waves

10:01

of something special. Well,

10:04

I'm transmitting the sound

10:07

waves of something special.

10:09

Well, I'm hear

10:11

the sound of something

10:13

special. hot seat I'm it's the

10:15

sound waves time. And that's when we put

10:17

it's hot seat time! And that's when

10:19

we put our experts on the

10:21

hot seat while they answer Connor's questions.

10:23

Lisa, whom should we put on

10:25

the hot seat first? hot seat first?

10:28

I am a am a

10:30

Boyd watcher. Do you use a you use

10:32

a telescope? I do, yeah. I do, of them

10:34

Two of them together. Okay, binoculars, perhaps. Very

10:36

Very good. right, right Connor, what

10:38

is your first question

10:40

for Patty? for is a

10:42

typical day at your day at

10:44

your job? So, NASA we do

10:46

astrophysics using telescopes in space

10:49

space. So I don't actually

10:51

go to visit a telescope

10:53

to sit there and

10:55

look through the the IPs and

10:57

look at the data But

10:59

I I do go to

11:01

my and start logging computers So

11:03

we have teams from all over the the

11:06

we communicate with each other remotely. each

11:08

other remotely. we get on email, we get on

11:10

and then we grab our data

11:12

off the data off the make plots

11:14

and talk to each other about

11:16

what we're seeing. what we're seeing. you just

11:18

talk about the things that you

11:20

are looking at are day in

11:22

space, right? Well, we can easily

11:24

get data either from an archive,

11:26

which means that data was taken

11:28

in space on another day, or

11:31

if we're lucky if we have some

11:33

observations coming to us that day,

11:35

us that day, then we definitely be looking

11:37

at brand new data as soon

11:39

as it's available, as it's and

11:41

these data are either pictures, which

11:43

we call which we call or they're

11:45

graphs, which we sometimes call called

11:48

spectra. Oh, Spectra. spectra. cool. Very cool. would

11:50

you like would you like Levi

11:52

to answer the same question, or?

11:54

Yes. Okay, Okay. So, Levi, go

11:56

ahead. job job looks kind of different

11:58

every day day. My job is to

12:01

be at the observatory and teach people

12:03

all about telescopes all about stars. So

12:05

when I usually get in, I see

12:08

what tours are available that day. It

12:10

could be families who are coming in.

12:12

It could be a group of kids

12:15

like you who are coming in with

12:17

their school. And it's up to me

12:19

to impart my passion about stars and

12:21

space to them. Also, while I'm going

12:24

throughout the day, I have to make

12:26

sure that all the machinery is working

12:28

correctly, that if we have any displays

12:31

or telescopes or telescopes set up, that

12:33

they're not broken. to go to an

12:35

observatory where things are broken. And a

12:38

little bit less glorious is we do

12:40

have to clean up after ourselves. You

12:42

know, we are so like, well, more

12:45

so cleaning up after other people. So

12:47

if people are messy and leaving paper

12:49

towels all over the place or leaving

12:51

empty drink cups, it's my job to

12:54

take care of that if I see

12:56

it too. Fair enough, very good. A

12:58

clean chop, I like it. Okay, Connor,

13:01

Connor, back to you. Tell me about

13:03

different types of telescopes. So there are

13:05

a few different types of telescopes. Some

13:08

of them are based on where they're

13:10

located. We have telescopes that are on

13:12

the ground and they observe light that

13:15

is visible within our atmosphere. But we

13:17

also have telescopes that are in space

13:19

and they're more for observing light spectrums

13:21

that don't pass through our atmosphere. and

13:24

there are some telescopes that you could

13:26

set one up in your bedroom or

13:28

have one a little larger than that,

13:31

like we have at the observatory to

13:33

look out in Stargaze, but you know

13:35

there are ones that are as large

13:38

as school buses that are out in

13:40

space, that are able to look at

13:42

all different types of spectrums of light.

13:44

Very cool, thank you. Okay Connor, next

13:47

question. For both of you, tell me

13:49

about important times in telescope history. Well,

13:51

of course, the first important time in

13:54

telescope history was when Galileo used his

13:56

telescope for the very first time, he

13:58

changed the way we could see the

14:01

night sky from what you're able to

14:03

see with your own eyes or naked

14:05

eyes. to something that we could actually

14:08

magnify those objects with. So that was

14:10

a huge leap. But another really important

14:12

leap was when we were able to

14:14

get telescopes above Earth's atmosphere and out

14:17

into space. Because the atmosphere acts kind

14:19

of like a soopy bath that we're

14:21

in and it actually makes the images

14:24

and telescopes kind of wander around or

14:26

wiggle. So you had to get above

14:28

the atmosphere to get the clearest images

14:31

that we could. And of course on

14:33

Christmas Day last year we had another

14:35

fantastic milestone. That was the day that

14:38

the James Webb space telescope was launched

14:40

out into space and it took a

14:42

long journey and it's now a million

14:44

miles away from Earth four times further

14:47

than the... full moon. So those are

14:49

my three favorite milestones and telescopes. I'm

14:51

really sorry, but while Patty is absolutely

14:54

right, Galileo is credited with the modern

14:56

telescope as we know it, a few

14:58

years before, the first patent that was

15:01

actually put in was by a German

15:03

scientist named Hans Lipersche, and that was

15:05

for the first patent to the telescope.

15:08

He didn't get it, so obviously my

15:10

guy Galileo takes a lot of the

15:12

credit. But yeah, Hans Lipperché is actually

15:14

one of the first people known to

15:17

apply for that patent. And even then,

15:19

there are other people who, you know,

15:21

some people think that it was a

15:24

few kids using a couple of lenses

15:26

who used it. So, um, so yeah,

15:28

I just wanted to mention that before

15:31

Galileo continues to take all the credit.

15:33

And I love that you mentioned the

15:35

James Web telescope. We're actually making history

15:38

now. It discovered a dwarf galaxy within

15:40

the past week. Those were some great

15:42

questions, Connor, and fascinating answers. Loved it.

15:44

I also think it's really cool that

15:47

that guy named James wanted to space

15:49

with a telescope. Yeah, yeah, he had

15:51

a really big suitcase, let me tell

15:54

you. Oh yeah, you would have to

15:56

pack so much stuff. Yeah, well, the

15:58

telescope, you know. But also there's no

16:01

bagel stores there, so we'd have to

16:03

bring bagels, and then... A bagel slicer.

16:05

Yeah, it's complicated. Right. Yeah. Very good.

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time for the shorts on

18:27

fire round, when our experts

18:29

have to answer as many

18:31

questions as they can before

18:33

time runs out. Lisa will

18:35

set a timer for the

18:37

first expert, and then Connor

18:39

will ask questions until Lisa's

18:41

timer sounds. Then Lisa resets

18:43

the timer for the next

18:45

expert to do the same.

18:47

Experts, you'll have to answer

18:49

quickly, so no time for

18:51

stargazing. All right, Connor, we're

18:53

going to start with Levi,

18:55

and you can ask your

18:57

shorts on fire questions now.

18:59

Who invented the first telescope

19:01

in 1608? Hans Lipershot. How

19:04

many lenses does a reflecting

19:06

telescope use? Anywhere from two

19:08

to six. What type of

19:10

telescope uses mirrors instead of

19:12

lenses? A reflective telescope. Name

19:14

a type of light that

19:16

telescope study, but we cannot

19:18

see. Omega waves. Who invented

19:20

the radio telescope to detect

19:22

radio waves? I think it

19:24

was Hans Gruber. Factor Phib,

19:26

the world's largest infrared telescope,

19:28

will be called the extremely

19:30

large telescope. The working title,

19:32

hopefully it won't be called

19:34

that. I'm going to say

19:36

Phib. Which observatory in Chicago

19:38

is known as the birthplace

19:40

of modern astrophysics? The Yerkes

19:43

Observatory. What is the scientific

19:45

term to describe the smearing

19:47

of colors by telescope lenses?

19:49

Linear infrared spectrum anomalies. Also

19:51

known as Lisa's. So that's

19:53

for you, Lisa. And I

19:55

made it! I'm famous! Very

19:57

good. good, you

19:59

could you please

20:01

reset the

20:03

timer? I'm famous, you do

20:05

it. I beg your pardon.

20:07

Okay fine, I'll do it I'll

20:09

do it, Deborah. Thank you very much. You're

20:12

you very much. You're right, I got too

20:14

big for myself. myself. Okay, Very good.

20:16

All right. Connie, you You're

20:18

going to ask your ask

20:20

fire questions for fire questions

20:22

for Patty now. What you call

20:24

the largest lens in the

20:27

refracting telescope? The primary

20:29

lens. The The bigger the

20:31

mirrors The in telescopes are,

20:33

the more we can gather

20:35

telescopes are, the more we can gather what?

20:37

there should be a telescope

20:39

in space a 1946

20:41

in 1946 is now

20:43

known as the father of

20:45

the Hubble telescope? That

20:47

would be be Lyman Spitzer.

20:49

Name kind of light

20:51

blocked by by Earth's atmosphere.

20:54

Ultraviolet light. What telescope can

20:56

stare at the

20:58

same section of the

21:00

sky for a

21:02

long time to see

21:04

teeny planets orbiting other

21:06

stars? Transiting Survey Survey Test

21:08

How fast does the Hubble Space

21:10

Telescope travel around Earth? Five

21:12

Five miles a second. How

21:14

far away from Earth is

21:17

the James Webb telescope? About a

21:19

million miles away from Earth.

21:21

away from Earth. can we see? Phib,

21:23

can we see telescopes.

21:25

using special telescopes? Yes. Okay,

21:28

time. Time, all the time Very

21:30

good. Excellent job. job.

21:35

It's decision time. must must

21:37

really focus on all the

21:39

information he's heard today. today.

21:41

Connor, who is our big

21:44

fibber? I think I think it's do

21:47

you think Why do you think

21:49

Patty is our fibber? Because

21:51

I asked I asked kind one

21:53

kind of light that is

21:55

blocked by at this year, she she

21:57

said ultraviolet white I'm pretty sure

22:00

we wear sunscreen so ultraviolet

22:02

white doesn't get to

22:04

our skin. Okay, let's

22:07

find out. All right,

22:09

will the actual telescope

22:12

expert please say I

22:14

am the telescope's expert?

22:17

I am the telescopes anywhere. Oh,

22:19

yes, it is true. Patty Boyd

22:21

is chief of the exoplanets and

22:23

stellar astrophysics laboratory in the astrophysics

22:25

science division at NASA and the

22:28

project scientists for the transiting exoplanet

22:30

survey satellite or test. mission. That

22:32

is very impressive. Wow! Super cool!

22:34

Sorry about that, Connor. So, Patty,

22:36

first, let's address Connor's comment about

22:38

ultraviolet rays. What do you have

22:40

to say about that? So it's

22:42

definitely true that there are some

22:44

little windows in our atmosphere that

22:47

will let light in the ultraviolet

22:49

pass through that is dangerous to

22:51

us, and that is why we

22:53

wear sunscreen. But there are also

22:55

large regions of the electromagnetic spectrum,

22:57

all the light that we can

22:59

and cannot see. And the atmosphere...

23:01

blocks a lot of that ultraviolet

23:03

light. So if we really want

23:06

to get a clear picture and

23:08

collect a lot of ultraviolet light,

23:10

we have to get our telescopes

23:12

above the Earth's atmosphere. And that's

23:14

why you have to wear more

23:16

sunscreen in space. Probably so. All

23:18

right, let's get into some of

23:20

these other lies, Patty. So please

23:22

use an objective lens and tell

23:25

us what lies you heard. So

23:27

I did hear the mention of

23:29

something called Omega Waves, which is

23:31

not a type of light waves.

23:33

And also, maybe not quite a

23:35

lie, but maybe a tell is

23:37

that we call that observatory, the

23:39

Yorkies observatory, and I heard it

23:42

pronounced yerks. Very good. Okay, so

23:44

let's ask Levi, how can your

23:46

eye piece together the truth after

23:48

all those lies? I don't know.

23:50

Tell us about some of your

23:52

fibs. So the Lisa, the linear

23:54

infrared spectrum anomaly is a lie

23:56

as far as I know. I

23:58

just kind of... came up with

24:01

a bunch of scientific words that

24:03

would equal Lisa. Okay, but I'm

24:05

just saying, Patty, you could run

24:07

with that. Please do. I like

24:09

it. The telescope that's called the,

24:11

what is it, the extremely large

24:13

telescope. That is what it's going

24:15

to be called. That's what it's

24:17

going to be called, the extremely

24:20

large telescope. Very funny. Let's do

24:22

some of these other ones. Who

24:24

invented the radio telescope to detect

24:26

radio waves? I said Hans Gruber.

24:28

Yes, you said, huh? In 1931,

24:30

very good. And one other thing,

24:32

Patty, do you know this one?

24:34

The scientific term to describe the

24:36

smearing of colors by a telescope

24:39

lens. Promatic aberration. My gosh, really

24:41

good lies though there, Levi. Too

24:43

good, I guess, for Connor. Yes,

24:45

but anyway, we've come to the

24:47

end of our show, but we

24:49

can continue to reflect on all

24:51

we've heard today. Thanks to our

24:53

contestant Connor for his resolution to

24:55

expose. Thank you to our expert

24:58

and liar Patty and Levi and

25:00

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25:02

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25:04

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25:40

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25:44

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