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I have. Oh, you have it, David?

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No, being seasons one and two,

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we're waiting to start season

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three, like tonight. Oh, yeah, then

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She was those gays we're trying

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wait, I think Kimberly and I are

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gonna talk about season three and the

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2:33

for any of you who are saying

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that Parker Posey's accent is two over

2:38

the top. It's not. I've seen enough

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to know that that fucking accent should

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be hung in the loop. It's brilliant.

2:44

And she's just genius. Okay, so let's

2:47

start here with the most important story

2:49

of the day and it comes to

2:51

us from Congressman Tom Emma.

2:53

who was speaking at the NRCC

2:56

dinner earlier in the week.

2:58

And have this. I know,

3:00

they're really, really hard. They're

3:02

really hard, especially the word

3:05

Trump, because that's what tripped

3:07

him up. So this is

3:09

Tom Emmer. I love this.

3:11

President Trump is counting

3:13

on us. Yeah. He was right.

3:16

The first time. Uh-huh. Accidentally told

3:18

the truth. is counting on us.

3:21

Yeah, see, I'm not bleeping that.

3:23

You know, it's not that I'm

3:25

necessarily offended by that word. It's

3:28

just as I feel like

3:30

I've got to draw the

3:32

line somewhere because there's so

3:34

many obscenities on this podcast.

3:36

President Trump is counting on us.

3:39

You know, that's beautiful. Isn't

3:41

it? Just every now and

3:43

then, like, the beauty of

3:45

nature. Yeah. The Freudian slips.

3:47

Yeah. Yeah. It just. Yes.

3:49

The Maggie Republicans. See words.

3:51

President Trump is counting on us.

3:53

I mean, honestly, it was just

3:55

like, oh, darling, you just meant

3:57

what you said. Can you call it?

4:00

gap if it's accurate. President

4:02

Trump is counting on us. Can

4:04

I play it one more time?

4:06

There needs to be a remix.

4:08

We need a remix. Yeah. America

4:10

has to laugh. President Trump is

4:12

counting on us. I know what

4:14

he did. He mixed up counting

4:16

and because he was saying count

4:18

dinner on us. Yeah, but still.

4:20

You know, it's like saying, well,

4:22

you know, what caused the three

4:24

mile island accident? It doesn't matter.

4:26

I wonder how many people at

4:28

the NRCC dinner did a spit

4:30

take when he said that. Oh,

4:32

I'm sure they didn't. It's very

4:34

Freudian. Were there a lot of... Were

4:37

there a lot of... Accidentally, wet

4:39

Republicans walking out of

4:41

that dinner? President Trump is

4:43

counting on us. Oh, holy shit. If it

4:46

were not, the White House Correspondency.

4:48

Thank you, Tom Emma, for helping

4:50

us laugh today. So much, so

4:52

much fun. So much fun. Okay,

4:54

so. Yeah, there's that and we

4:57

got to bring up our tariff

4:59

music, our new tariff music,

5:01

which is the Batman 66

5:03

penguin theme for Burgess Meredith,

5:06

the late Great Burgess Meredith,

5:08

as Donald Trump might

5:10

say. Or I'm sorry. Get

5:12

out of your rock. President

5:14

Trump, I mean President Trump.

5:17

So yesterday was interesting, wasn't

5:19

it? We found out that

5:21

Donald is oh my god

5:23

such a financial wizard such

5:25

an economic genius What happened

5:27

was I don't think those

5:29

words mean what you think

5:31

they mean? I am of

5:34

course being farcical with those

5:36

words Obviously, so what happened

5:38

yesterday is the Tao was

5:40

taking another crap and it

5:42

looked like we were headed

5:44

toward economic meltdownsville. I don't

5:46

know how you want to refer to

5:48

that but earlier in the day Donald

5:50

posted on Troth Truth Central.

5:53

Truth, Truth, Central. It's about

5:55

11, 11 a.m. yesterday.

5:57

This is a great time to buy.

6:00

meaning buy stocks and then he

6:02

signed a DJT, which also happens

6:04

to be the letters that go

6:06

along with his stock, his truth,

6:09

truth, central, which is. That's still

6:11

a thing. Yeah, which is headed

6:13

toward penny stock territory. I think

6:15

it's down in the low teens

6:17

at this point. You know what,

6:20

I'm gonna do an impromptu check

6:22

here. Let's put a dollar sign

6:24

DJT. Do it, do it, do

6:26

it. Yeah, right now it's trading

6:29

at $19 dollars a share. Well,

6:31

the high watermark for DJT stock,

6:33

which is the Truth Truth Central

6:35

stock, $97 a share. That was

6:38

back on March 4, 2022, and

6:40

now it's trading at $19 a

6:42

share. Holy shawl. It's still kind

6:44

of too much. It is too

6:46

much. It is too much. How

6:49

is that even quite a heavy

6:51

stock? And wipe our ass with

6:53

them, we might get some ease

6:55

out of it. And by the

6:58

way, Tesla stock is down 7%

7:00

today, trading at $251 a share,

7:02

yeah. Oh yeah, we're gonna talk

7:04

about that of the Shadow Doga,

7:06

that'll be fun. The NASDAQ is

7:09

down 1.95%. Let's see, where's the

7:11

Dow right now? The Dow is

7:13

still in negative territory. It's a

7:15

thousand points down. 1,01 points. It's

7:18

2 p.m. East, almost 2 p.m.

7:20

Eastern at the moment. Yep. So

7:22

the word was, oh look at

7:24

Donald Trump, he's such a genius

7:27

because the Tao gained 2,600 points

7:29

right after he announced that he

7:31

was pausing his tariffs for another

7:33

90 days. But he was gonna

7:35

continue his China tariffs at the

7:38

rate of 124% that may be

7:40

up to 145% now. And by

7:42

the way, last night on John

7:44

Fugelsang's show, I, uh... I mentioned

7:47

that he was going to raise

7:49

the tariff on China up to

7:51

11 billion percent. And then I

7:53

noticed I noticed today that Keith

7:55

Oberman had the same joke. I'm

7:58

not saying that. that he necessarily

8:00

copied my joke. It's just one

8:02

of those great minds think alike.

8:04

See, that's me patting myself on

8:07

the back. You know, like with

8:09

the movies with asteroids, they just

8:11

come together at the same time.

8:13

Right. So Trump announced on his

8:16

social media platform that he is

8:18

reducing tariffs on all countries. to

8:20

10% for 90 days rather than

8:22

the higher rates he had misleadingly

8:24

described as reciprocal tariffs last week.

8:27

However, he said China's exports to

8:29

the US would now see 125%

8:31

tariff. That's according to the Huff

8:33

Post. Wait, his magga hats are

8:36

made in China. You know, I

8:38

think there's a video that floats

8:40

around YouTube sometimes of, and I'm

8:42

not necessarily favorably quoting Milton Friedman.

8:44

I just wouldn't do that. But

8:47

there's a video of him floating

8:49

around talking about how a pencil

8:51

is made. And it's not just

8:53

one person making a pencil. There

8:56

are the different parts of a

8:58

pencil. There's the graphite that goes

9:00

on the inside. There's the little

9:02

rubbery eraser nub at the top.

9:04

There's the wood and all of

9:07

that. Yeah, and the paint and

9:09

the metal part, the little bendy

9:11

aluminum part at the top, too.

9:13

And so that's kind of how

9:16

the economy works and Donald doesn't

9:18

really think on that level. He

9:20

doesn't understand the complexities of these

9:22

things, but it's not really about

9:25

the tariffs, is it? This is

9:27

really about using the tariffs, exploiting

9:29

the tariffs to manipulate the stock

9:31

market. Once again, I'm going to

9:33

be entirely clear that I'm alleging

9:36

this, I don't have hard cold

9:38

evidence. to prove this yet, but

9:40

I think we can all kind

9:42

of see what's going on, right?

9:45

I mean... Yeah, they're gonna crash

9:47

the economy so the billionaires can

9:49

buy everything and make this population

9:51

desperate enough to not protest and

9:53

not raise hell when they, you

9:56

know, declare martial law, whatever they're

9:58

gonna do. Wait, wait, did I

10:00

not see a video of Donald

10:02

yesterday saying, oh, that guy made

10:05

two million, that guy made a

10:07

nine hundred million today? So I

10:09

don't know if it actually happened,

10:11

but Donald's history indicates that he

10:14

just threw up a couch. I

10:16

know it's good. I don't know.

10:18

He just threw up a couch.

10:20

I know. I know it's good

10:22

for the cats. It's a scratching

10:25

couch. It's fine. So I don't

10:27

know if it actually happened, but

10:29

Donald's history indicates that he does

10:31

this shit all the time or

10:34

has done it all the time.

10:36

I go back to this New

10:38

York Times article from 2018 that

10:40

I quote from all the time

10:42

about green mailing. I'm just going

10:45

to read a couple of these

10:47

paragraphs. And this is the background.

10:49

This was Donald Trump in the

10:51

1980s. And if he was doing

10:54

it in the 1980s, you better

10:56

believe he's doing it now where

10:58

he's got Supreme Court approved immunity

11:00

from prosecution. So during the 1980s

11:03

Donald Trump became notorious for leaking

11:05

word that he was taking positions

11:07

in stocks hinting of a possible

11:09

takeover and then either selling on

11:11

the run-up or trying to extract

11:14

lucrative concessions from the target company

11:16

to make him go away. Oh,

11:18

does that sound familiar? Huh? Yeah.

11:20

It was a form of stock

11:23

manipulation with an unsavory label. Green

11:25

mailing. The Times unearthed evidence that

11:27

Mr. Trump enlisted his father as

11:29

his green-mailing wingman on January 26th.

11:31

That sounds filthy. I don't know

11:34

even like what that means, your

11:36

green-mailing wingman, but I'm pretty sure

11:38

that it's not safe for under

11:40

17. Yeah, yeah. I think unsavory

11:43

label is an appropriate use of

11:45

words here by the New York

11:47

Times. On January 26th, 1989, Fred

11:49

Trump bought 8,600 shares of Time,

11:51

Inc. for $934,000, his tax return

11:54

show. Seven days later, Dan Dorfman,

11:56

that's my least favorite superhero, by

11:58

the way. Dorfman, Dorfman, is so

12:00

unentaining. Well, hey, hold on. Tim

12:03

Conway was Dorf. That's right. Was

12:05

he ever a superhero called Dorfman?

12:07

Well, he had a cape at

12:09

one point. So he could have

12:12

been Dorfman. Dorfman on golf. That

12:14

was his video tape. He was

12:16

a financial columnist to be honest

12:18

about this, known to be chatty

12:20

with Donald Trump, and he broke

12:23

the news that the younger Trump

12:25

had, quote, taken a sizable stake

12:27

in Time Inc. Sure enough, Time's

12:29

shares jumped allowing Fred Trump to

12:32

make $41,000 profit in just two

12:34

weeks. So this is where Donald

12:36

is using the news media to

12:38

manipulate stocks by saying that he's

12:40

taken a sizable steak in Time

12:43

Inc. And it's entirely possible that

12:45

he didn't take any steak in

12:47

Time Inc. He's just pumping the

12:49

stock so that his dad can

12:52

make a profit. And then I'm

12:54

sure Fred Trump shared that profit

12:56

with Donald, if not gave Donald

12:58

a majority share of that profit,

13:01

of that $41,000 in just two

13:03

fucking weeks. And who is Donald

13:05

surrounded by in the White House

13:07

right now? Billionaires. And do you

13:09

think any of these billionaires actually

13:12

made those billions of dollars playing

13:14

on the level and not shaving

13:16

the corners off of regulations and

13:18

the rule of law? You don't

13:21

get to be a billionaire by

13:23

playing by the rules. It's just

13:25

something that I think it was

13:27

Fran Leibowitz. Yeah, what's her name?

13:29

She's like, you don't nobody earns

13:32

a hundred million dollars a year

13:34

You steal $100 billion a year.

13:36

But so here's the bottom line

13:38

here. We're talking about stock manipulation.

13:41

We're talking about insider trading. And

13:43

we know this from history. I

13:45

mean, I was covering this back

13:47

in 2018 and 2019. And noticing

13:49

the correlation between Donald Trump's tariff

13:52

blurts about his trade war with

13:54

China, which began in early 2018,

13:56

and stocks surging and collapsing on

13:58

the various markets. And so this

14:01

is the same sort of thing

14:03

we've been seeing. since Donald Trump

14:05

became president this time, where maybe

14:07

they're short-selling on bad news and

14:10

they're investing on good news. I

14:12

mean, this is simple shit, right?

14:14

So everyone was noticing this yesterday.

14:16

I mean, I was so relieved

14:18

to see this, where, you know,

14:21

whatever it was, six years ago,

14:23

we were kind of out on

14:25

a limb with theorizing about stock

14:27

manipulation, about insider trading. Well, now

14:30

it's gone mainstream. For example, Adam

14:32

Schiff now is demanding an investigation

14:34

of possible insider trading. Yeah, I

14:36

mean, it's obvious. Here was Adam

14:38

Schiff's statement. He said President Trump's

14:41

decision to ease most tariffs predictably

14:43

caused the financial markets to skyrocket

14:45

after crashing and undergoing wild fluctuations

14:47

since the President's April 2nd 2025

14:50

executive order announcing global tariffs. Since

14:52

his inauguration, President Trump has repeatedly

14:54

invoked the International Emergency Economic Powers

14:56

Act to unilaterally impose substantial new

14:59

tariffs on imports from nearly every

15:01

country in the world. By the

15:03

way, just as a side note,

15:05

the House Republicans block the Democrats'

15:07

effort to roll back Donald's emergency

15:10

powers based on the AIPA, as

15:12

I like to call it. That's

15:14

the acronym for the act I

15:16

just mentioned. So that's not going

15:19

anywhere for the time being. Unlike

15:21

various other trade authorities vested in

15:23

the executive, tariffs levied under IEPA

15:25

are not subject to investigation or

15:27

affirmative determination from executive branch agencies.

15:30

On April 2, 2025, again invoking

15:32

IEPA unilateral emergency authorities, President Trump

15:34

announced the broadest across-the-board increase in

15:36

tariffs since the 1930s. The market

15:39

reactions, and it went so well

15:41

in the 1930s, didn't it? Yeah,

15:43

I did. Smoot-holly! Yeah. That's gonna

15:45

do, everything's gonna go great. Right.

15:48

Yeah. The market reactions were immediate

15:50

and swift in the four days.

15:52

following the president's initial declaration of

15:54

the national emergency and corresponding tariffs,

15:56

the S&P 500 lost $5 trillion

15:59

in market valuation. And this represents

16:01

the steepest four days of losses

16:03

since the index was created. And

16:05

the statement goes on and on

16:08

and on. So Adam Schiff is

16:10

on this, so relieved to see

16:12

it. And the other thing that

16:14

he did is he shared a

16:16

tweet from earlier today by Spencer

16:19

Hecimian. who is the founder of

16:21

Tulu Capital Management. NASDAQ call volume

16:23

spiked minutes before the 90-day tariff

16:25

pause was announced. And he wrote,

16:28

not a good look at all.

16:30

That's to say, this looks highly

16:32

suspicious. Call volume is a call

16:34

with stocks. If I remember correctly,

16:36

that's where you can trigger a

16:39

buy of a stock ahead of

16:41

time. when it reaches a certain

16:43

price. So essentially what he's saying

16:45

here is a bunch of people

16:48

put a call in on stocks

16:50

on the NASDAQ in advance of

16:52

this announcement and to be triggered

16:54

right before the announcement was set

16:57

to take place. There's no, there's

16:59

nothing wrong. I know, they want

17:01

him to move to Taiwan. And

17:03

remember, Donald Trump is immune using

17:05

the IEPA to declare a national

17:08

emergency and implement all these tariffs.

17:10

That's within the purview of his

17:12

official powers. According to the Supreme

17:14

Court. According to the Supreme Court,

17:17

making it legal, giving him immunity.

17:19

Well, it's not legal, but making

17:21

him immune from prosecution for that.

17:23

Plus the people around him. in

17:25

any sort of federal prosecution at

17:28

least, would be pardoned. So if

17:30

this turns out that their action...

17:32

inside or trading. If Donald is,

17:34

and of course, Donald is surrounded

17:37

by staffers who he's consulting with

17:39

about when to lift the tariffs,

17:41

when to implement the tariffs, people

17:43

know about this beyond Donald Trump.

17:46

It's not like Donald went on

17:48

truth, true central, and decided, okay,

17:50

well now's the time, 90-day reprief,

17:52

without consulting with anybody. Of course

17:54

he was consulting with other people.

17:57

So the word got out, people

17:59

knew that at this point in

18:01

time. I think that was a

18:03

panic move. This is bad. But

18:06

throughout the course of the day

18:08

yesterday, I'm sure there were discussions.

18:10

Should we lift the tariff? Should

18:12

we offer this 90 day reprieve?

18:14

What should we do about China?

18:17

There had to have been policy

18:19

discussions happening inside the oval. And

18:21

so other people had to have

18:23

known about this in advance. And

18:26

on top of that, I believe,

18:28

and this is me just speculating

18:30

to be clear, I believe that

18:32

Donald may have called his boys.

18:35

called Eric and who's the other

18:37

one, Donald. Eric and Eric. There's

18:39

the other guy. Don Junior's own

18:41

coke. Yeah. I haven't, you know

18:43

what, I haven't thought about Don

18:46

Junior at all since the election.

18:48

I thought about him the other

18:50

day because somebody, oh God, somebody's

18:52

tell-all is out and they're saying

18:55

that everybody in the family just

18:57

hates Don Junior. Like Don Junior

18:59

is... He's on Coke. Universally loat.

19:01

By, like, not just us, but

19:03

apparently his own father and family

19:06

and everybody, I mean, just everybody

19:08

hates Don Junior. Now I gotta

19:10

see if I can find it.

19:12

Oh, that's so sad. Because he

19:15

is such a likable guy, such

19:17

a nice guy. It might have

19:19

been barren. It might have been

19:21

barren that Donnie was talking to.

19:23

Honest and decent. Donald is surrounded

19:26

by people who are up to

19:28

their eyeballs in investments. You think

19:30

that they're going to go, you

19:32

know what, this is a bridge

19:35

too far. I'm not going to

19:37

take advantage of this. I'm not

19:39

going to, you know, I know

19:41

that he's going to make this

19:44

announcement later in the day, maybe

19:46

three, four o'clock, but why should

19:48

I, you know, you know, call

19:50

in an order ahead of time?

19:52

Why was not why were we

19:55

not on the signal chat? Yeah,

19:57

that's right. That's the other thing

19:59

I wonder if there were signal

20:01

chats about this and we would

20:04

there were and we'll never know

20:06

because the signal chats disappear, don't

20:08

they? So meantime AOC is calling

20:10

for investigations AOC was certainly alarmed

20:12

as we all were about this.

20:15

What does she say here on

20:17

Blue Sky? She said oh, no,

20:19

I'm sorry it was on Twitter

20:21

for some reason AOC is still

20:24

on Twitter A lot of these

20:26

people are still on Twitter. She's

20:28

also responding to Spencer Hakimian, and

20:30

she said, any member of Congress

20:33

who purchased stocks in the last

20:35

48 hours should probably disclose that

20:37

now. I've been hearing some interesting

20:39

chatter on the floor. Disclosure deadline

20:41

is May 15th. We're about to

20:44

learn a few things. It's time

20:46

to ban insider trading in Congress.

20:48

Yeah. I mean, it's insane. to

20:50

think that what they're doing is

20:53

deliberately using tariffs to manipulate the

20:55

stock market to enrich themselves and

20:57

their cronies, while the rest of

20:59

us are like, again, the metaphor

21:01

of the monopoly man on the

21:04

bankruptcy card with his pockets out

21:06

turned, just standing there was arms

21:08

out going, ah-huh-huh. Well, I'm busted

21:10

now, fuck. My 401k, fuck. And

21:13

Donald is a monocle guy. Right.

21:15

Retirees, getting ready to end a

21:17

lifetime of work and go and

21:19

relax. And now their 401ks are

21:22

essentially, I don't know, worth significantly

21:24

less. A chance of a bucket

21:26

of lukewarm spit. Yeah. Exactly right.

21:28

And then these guys are enriching

21:30

themselves. The billionaire oligarchs are enriching

21:33

themselves. This is kleptocracy. Where one

21:35

of the top economic advisors to

21:37

the most powerful person in the

21:39

world is Peter Navarro. I know,

21:42

I know. Who like made up

21:44

his own economic expert. Yes. Ron

21:46

Vera and nobody noted. Nobody noticed

21:48

that it was an anagram of

21:50

his last name. Yep. That's why

21:53

it just completely makes me like

21:55

blood squared out of my eyeball.

21:57

Right. And that like as soon

21:59

as I saw the name Ron

22:02

Vara, I was like, that's Navarro

22:04

Scrant. I mean, yeah. And what's

22:06

worse is Donald has based his

22:08

entire obsession with tariffs on Peter

22:10

Navarro's book, which is sourced from

22:13

someone who was entirely made up

22:15

like David Denison and John Barron

22:17

and John Barron and all the

22:19

bullshit PR agents that Donald used

22:22

to use to use to use

22:24

to call in tips to the

22:26

New York press to the New

22:28

York press to the New York

22:31

press. Probably use that same anonymous

22:33

handle to call in the green

22:35

mailing scams to New York. I'm

22:37

just going to make up an

22:39

expert. You can scramble David Ferguson

22:42

and you get Davy Dongserv. I

22:44

love that. True story, my poor

22:46

name. Is that really an acronym

22:48

for your name? Yeah, Davy Dongserv.

22:51

I love that. Also a fervid

22:54

sun god. I like that better.

22:56

Yeah, that's great. Well, a fervid

22:58

sun god is going to be

23:00

my new expert on Western civilization.

23:02

You know, I'm just going to

23:04

cite randomly. Well, you know, Elon

23:06

Musk continues his flame war against

23:08

Peter Navarro. Here are three Elon

23:10

Musk tweets from April ages, two

23:13

days ago, about Peter Navarro. And

23:15

I may bleep. the word here

23:17

in the context of the show?

23:19

Because again, I know it's Elon

23:21

Musk, this is public, and we're

23:23

partially a news show, but I

23:25

just don't want this word out

23:27

there. But I'm gonna say it

23:30

anyway, so those of you, and

23:32

again, it's bleeped on the show.

23:34

Oh, it's the R word. Yeah,

23:36

it's the R word. But it's

23:38

a variation of the R word.

23:40

So I don't know, is it

23:42

blebable, I'll just say it. So

23:44

Elon Musk is referring to Peter

23:46

Navarro as Ritardo. Fucking Elon, you

23:49

can't even land a decent own.

23:51

Yeah. You know, I mean, it's

23:53

just, I... There's so many things

23:55

that you could say about Peter

23:57

Navarro, including the fact that he

23:59

made up. His own economic expert

24:01

with his last name scrambled. Yeah.

24:03

And you go for retardo. Right.

24:06

I mean, 10 year olds are

24:08

like rolling their eyes at that.

24:10

Exactly. Burned, dude. Yeah, and then

24:12

he got bullied offline the other

24:14

day when he was trying to

24:16

play video games on his public

24:18

feed. Did you see that? Oh,

24:20

no, I didn't. I did. No,

24:22

he's terrible at whatever game it

24:25

is he likes to play and

24:27

a bunch of like 11 year

24:29

olds like kept killing him again

24:31

and again and again until he

24:33

finally just logged off in a

24:35

huff. That's so funny. He did.

24:37

It was hilarious. So he tweeted

24:39

also here another one about Peter

24:41

Navarro where he said independent experts

24:44

agree that he is rich. So

24:46

he meant to write, well wait,

24:48

wait, wait. I know, I know,

24:50

I just, I'm like, you're a

24:52

fucking 54 year old man, learn

24:54

to do an own. Yeah. You're

24:56

the richest man in the world,

24:58

and you fucking throw insults. Like

25:01

I, yeah, like, he meant to

25:03

say, Ritardo, and instead he said,

25:05

he just straight up said, Ritardo.

25:07

And then he replied to his

25:09

own tweet, even though he probably

25:11

has edit capabilities, and wrote, Asterix

25:13

Peter Ritardo. You know, like you

25:15

do when there's a typo in

25:17

one of your tweets, and because

25:20

there's no edit typo, he was

25:22

just underlining his joke. I guess

25:24

that's true. Just in case anybody

25:26

didn't get it. That was a

25:28

stupid way of underscoring his stupid,

25:30

stupid nickname. I hate him. I

25:32

fucking hate him soon. Oh God.

25:34

Yeah, but it's funny as fuck

25:36

to know that he's going on

25:39

after the inspiration behind Donald Trump's

25:41

tariff regime. And Elon Musk hates

25:43

this guy. I wonder how much

25:45

longer this is going to go

25:47

on. I wonder how much longer.

25:49

But it's fraud hates fraud. I

25:51

mean, they each hate each other

25:53

because they both know that they're

25:56

completely clueless phonies. So, well, there's

25:58

lots more on the insider trading

26:00

fund. I just fucking love this

26:02

music to go along with the

26:04

tariff thing. See, you get it,

26:06

the penguin and then the penguins

26:08

on the McDonald Island that was

26:10

facing a 10% tariff. May still

26:12

be facing that tariff. Okay, lots

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day. fun guest out. Freak

27:24

base. Oh yes. Oh yeah, yes.

27:26

One of his more recent singles.

27:28

Instantaneous, like, sugar rush. When I

27:30

hear his music, it just sounds

27:32

so good. And it makes me

27:34

so happy. Yeah, and you know

27:36

what? What makes it even better

27:38

is, Freak base is just a

27:40

quality human being. One of the

27:42

best people I know. Just sweet

27:44

and kind and outgoing and caring

27:47

and empathetic. Just a great guy.

27:49

Bob? I try. I aspire to

27:51

be more like Freak base. Except

27:53

for his fashion sense, which is

27:55

way beyond anything I could ever

27:57

achieve. These base playing skills, of

27:59

course, that too. Never be able

28:01

to get there. when it comes

28:03

to slapping a boss. You know

28:05

it's not the boss. Yeah, I

28:07

know. So anyway, make sure to

28:09

change my mind into your record

28:11

collection by Freakbase. Make sure to

28:13

support him on Tiktok. So good.

28:15

Yeah. The only reason I'm ambivalent

28:17

about the potential end of Tiktok

28:19

is because Freakbase is a huge

28:21

Tiktok. And I want Freakbase to

28:24

succeed. I want him to continue

28:26

to be a Tiktok celebrity. So

28:28

I don't know, I don't know

28:30

where I am on TikTok. I

28:32

still have. It's not going anywhere.

28:34

Something will happen. Way too much

28:36

money. Yeah. And it's way too

28:38

effective a propaganda outlet for people

28:40

that rich and powerful. It's just,

28:42

there's a great irony to me

28:44

when it comes to TikTok and

28:46

just our complete acceptance of spying

28:48

into our private lives. So it's

28:50

like back in 2013, man, when

28:52

Edward Snowden dropped those documents, and

28:54

everyone was so outraged about the

28:56

NSA. having their cell phone metadata.

28:58

I was like, yeah, you know

29:00

what? These private companies, these websites

29:03

and apps and so forth, they

29:05

have so much more information about

29:07

you than the NSA ever ever

29:09

will. Yeah, yeah. I don't care.

29:11

I'm not that important. You know

29:13

what? I get awesome ads on

29:15

social media. I have so many

29:17

cool t-shirts now and so many

29:19

awesome pairs of shoes of shoes,

29:21

right? No, they fucking could be

29:23

like, deals on Adidas, like, O.G.

29:25

Samas and shit. Oh, really? Like,

29:27

I mean, yeah, I, wow. But

29:29

I, but I get great advertising.

29:31

I have the, like, the coolest,

29:33

like, craftwork t-shirt that I got,

29:35

like, a month ago, I mean.

29:37

Wear on, uh, on, on TikTok

29:40

or Insta? Instagram, I don't really

29:42

use Tik Talks as much. Oh,

29:44

okay, that's cool. So you're... Instagram

29:46

and Facebook, you're just constantly serving

29:48

me actually shit that I need.

29:50

I just received a nine pack

29:52

of gorgeous gel pens today from

29:54

Pentel. Okay, Kuro. that like I

29:56

was just like it popped up

29:58

in my feet and I was

30:00

like I want those they are

30:02

all shades of dark blue. Well

30:04

I once made I once made

30:06

the mistake of buying a pair

30:08

of shoes from an ad on

30:10

Facebook and they were everything you'd

30:12

imagine them to be. They arrived

30:14

about six months late and then

30:17

when they finally arrived they were

30:19

two sizes too small and they

30:21

just looked like you know the

30:23

meme going around between an Amazon

30:25

product and a Timu product. They

30:27

look like the T-moo version of

30:29

actual shoes. Like, they just were

30:31

barely, you could barely refer to

30:33

them as actual footwear. They were

30:35

that janky. I do not recommend

30:37

buying anything based on Facebook ads.

30:39

Okay. Back to the tariff trade

30:41

war. Inside of trading. I was

30:43

saying, Gary, the break. This music

30:45

is proof that you should never

30:47

piss off a Tuba player. Because

30:49

it was just like nothing more

30:51

mocking. But you're a fucking dumbass,

30:54

you know, like. Yes. I could

30:56

just see Trump like getting up

30:58

off his gold toilet to this

31:00

music, you know, hauling up his

31:02

tidy whiteies and his diaper and

31:04

green fastening his girdle. That's right.

31:06

Time to manipulate. Oh no, after

31:08

he gets out of the shower

31:10

to dry it. Yeah. Well, here

31:12

was a representative Stephen Horsford. who

31:14

was in hearings yesterday with US

31:16

trade rep Greer, he said to

31:18

Greer, so the trade representative hasn't

31:20

spoken to the President of the

31:22

United States about a global reordering

31:24

of trade, but yet he announced

31:26

it in a tweet, what the

31:28

fuck, or he may have just

31:31

said WTF, who is in charge?

31:33

It looks like your boss just

31:35

pulled the rug out from under

31:37

you. There is no strategy. Is

31:39

this market manipulation? So yeah, people

31:41

are talking about this here. Here's

31:43

the New York Times has been

31:45

one of your like hobby horse

31:47

But this is something you did

31:49

really like point out in like

31:51

oh, yeah, 2018. Yeah, you were

31:53

like he's fucking playing the market

31:55

Yeah, yeah, yeah I was talking

31:57

about a lot of the podcasts.

31:59

I wrote about it a lot.

32:01

I wrote about it a few

32:03

times for Salon. I think William

32:05

Cohen and I were the only

32:08

two people talking about the possibility

32:10

of. Donald Trump manipulating the stock

32:12

market using his I try I

32:14

really try but it doesn't take

32:16

a thank you it doesn't take

32:18

a genius to see the correlation

32:20

between what stock market was doing

32:22

and what he was saying about

32:24

tariffs. He has the power to

32:26

move the markets. He's got access

32:28

to the bully pulpit and he's

32:30

exploiting that and it is so

32:32

clear and incontrovertible. Here is a

32:34

New York Times in a piece

32:36

published yesterday amazingly. They said, how

32:38

is this not market manipulate? Oh

32:40

yeah, well, this is a quote

32:42

starting out with Representative Mike Levin.

32:45

How is this not market manipulation?

32:47

By the way, Levin is a

32:49

Democrat from California said this on

32:51

social media, referring to action that

32:53

is potentially illegal. Quote, if you're

32:55

a Trump supporter and you did

32:57

what he said and you bought,

32:59

then you did great. On the

33:01

other hand, if you're a retiree

33:03

or a senior or somebody in

33:05

the middle class over the last

33:07

few days. That didn't have the

33:09

tolerance for risk, and you decided

33:11

to sell, you got screwed. Kathleen

33:13

Clark, a professor focusing on government

33:15

ethics and corruption at the Washington

33:17

University School of Law in St.

33:19

Louis, said Mr. Trump's actions, quote,

33:22

would ordinarily trigger an investigation by

33:24

the Securities and Exchange Commission, unquote.

33:26

If we still had a rule

33:28

of law, she said, a robust

33:30

system for the rule of law,

33:32

it would be investigated. In a

33:34

statement, the SEC, which reviews possible

33:36

violations of federal securities laws, declined

33:38

to respond to questions about Mr.

33:40

Trump's post. Naturally, because the SEC

33:42

is now controlled by Donald Trump,

33:44

no one wants to piss him

33:46

off, because he's going to go

33:48

off and scream about them on

33:50

truth-truth central. Or he's going to

33:52

have them investigated. We're going to

33:54

talk about that. later on. Oh

33:56

yeah. Chris Hayes added, and this

33:59

doesn't have anything to do with

34:01

market manipulation, but just in terms

34:03

of the the tariffs that still

34:05

remain, the 10% tariff, Chris Hayes

34:07

said, is a $2,500 per household

34:09

annual tax hike. So thank you,

34:11

Donald. Right, even with the pause,

34:13

there's still a 10% tax hike

34:15

on every household annually per year,

34:17

$2,500. Terrible idea. Yeah, of course.

34:19

That we stopped doing that. Yeah,

34:21

you have to use them delicately.

34:23

Exactly. You have to understand that

34:25

we live in a global marketplace

34:27

now with the internet and the

34:29

way we operate trade. I mean,

34:31

the fact of the matter is

34:33

that if you're trading with a

34:36

country, you're not going to war

34:38

against them. But I don't think

34:40

Donald sees that distinction and he's

34:42

using this as this huge bludgening

34:44

tool. to try to get some

34:46

sort of concessions out of people.

34:48

I mean, I still don't understand

34:50

the meme about Donald being a

34:52

genius with the tariffs because on

34:54

one hand, you had mega just

34:56

going bananas for the last several

34:58

months saying, oh yeah, these tariffs,

35:00

great idea. More tariffs, great, let's

35:02

have huge tariffs. 124% tariffs on

35:04

China, more, more, more. And then

35:06

when he pulls back on the

35:08

tariffs, they're like, fuck, tariffs. with

35:10

like literally religiously and whatever he

35:13

says you know and they just

35:15

they they can't remember anything that

35:17

happened more than 15 minutes ago

35:19

yeah yeah well finally here Mark

35:21

Zandi from Moody's Analytics says there's

35:23

still a 60% chance of a

35:25

recession this year He said it

35:27

was encouraging to see the president

35:29

reverse himself on the so-called reciprocal

35:31

tariffs yesterday But I wouldn't take

35:33

much solace in it as the

35:35

global trade war continues to rage

35:37

I still put the odds of

35:39

a recession this year at 60%

35:41

He continued fortunately the president appears

35:43

sensitive to turmoil in financial markets

35:45

and what he hears from investors

35:47

and business leaders. It is also

35:50

a plus that Treasury Secretary Scott

35:52

Bessent appears to be taking the

35:54

lead on the trade war. Yeah,

35:56

that's good. Throwing Bessen right under

35:58

the bus because, oh, that's his

36:00

fault. The guy who took George

36:02

Soros checks for real, that's the

36:04

guy. He doesn't seem as dug

36:06

in, this is Zandi still, he

36:08

doesn't seem as dug in on

36:10

the tariffs as some of the

36:12

others in the administration, but I

36:14

wouldn't take much solace in this.

36:16

The 125% tariffs on China, 10%

36:18

on most other countries, and 25%

36:20

on auto steel and aluminum put

36:22

the overall effective tariff rate at

36:24

more than 20% on a static

36:27

basis. It hasn't changed. And... as

36:29

it is clear that United States

36:31

trade policy is being made up

36:33

on the fly, it generates lots

36:35

of drama and uncertainty, which is

36:37

another heavy weight on the economy.

36:39

Yes, as we've been saying, we

36:41

were talking about this with drift

36:43

glass and blue gal yesterday, the

36:45

markets hate uncertainty, and Donald is

36:47

nothing but uncertainty. I don't know

36:49

how he expects to get any

36:51

more concessions out of these other

36:53

countries by threatening tariffs, because they're

36:55

all going to be like, oh,

36:57

this is a boy, a cried

36:59

wolf. He's going to threat these

37:01

to us as a global economic

37:03

power. Of course it is. This

37:06

is the end. Yeah. Nobody, we're

37:08

too erratic now. We can't actually

37:10

be counted on to like hold

37:12

up our end of any trade

37:14

deal. And people don't understand what

37:16

this is going to mean in

37:18

terms of our ability to run

37:20

our like, you know, six digit

37:22

deficits and trillions of dollars. I

37:24

mean. I guess this is inevitable

37:26

that there was going to be

37:28

a global realignment eventually that we

37:30

could not be a superpower indefinitely

37:32

like this just was a unsustainable

37:34

model, but it just it hurts.

37:36

Yeah, it hurts to watch to

37:38

like watch people completely dismantle our

37:40

power in the world, our, you

37:43

know, our dignity, our everything and

37:45

then they call us like traders

37:47

and they're the, you know, the

37:49

patriots and it just. We were

37:51

We were for many many years

37:53

the driver of the global economic

37:55

engine. I mean, that's where we

37:57

were the centerpiece. And while we

37:59

still may be the centerpiece when

38:01

it comes to certain kinds of

38:03

products and services and technology, as

38:05

a global trading partner, we're completely

38:07

useless. As you were saying, David,

38:09

because even if we elect Democratic

38:11

presidents for the next two decades,

38:13

which is very likely, as long

38:15

as elections remain free and fair,

38:17

it's not going to change anything.

38:20

because the position by former trading

38:22

partners is going to be, okay,

38:24

well, we're going to strike a

38:26

deal with this sane Democratic president,

38:28

but who knows if the American

38:30

voters are going to be fished

38:32

in by fucking bullshit, obvious disinformation,

38:34

and another con man from the

38:36

Republican Party, and then everything's going

38:38

to get reversed again, and it's

38:40

going to be like we got

38:42

a pie in the face. So

38:44

no one's going to want to

38:46

do any deals with the United

38:48

States anymore. I can't remember who

38:50

said it. I think it was

38:52

the trade minister of France maybe

38:54

who was just like, we can't

38:57

build trade policy on the possibility

38:59

that 10,000 voters in Wisconsin are

39:01

going to upend the global order.

39:03

That's exactly right. Yeah. Yep. So

39:05

Zandi finished here along the same

39:07

lines of what we're talking about

39:09

just now. He said the most

39:11

worrisome aspect is the volatility in

39:13

the bond markets. Long-term rates have

39:15

jumped. Historically, when there is a

39:17

crisis, money flows into the US,

39:19

global investors may be losing faith

39:21

in the United States. If we

39:23

are no longer the global safe

39:25

haven, it will cost us dearly.

39:27

And so, yeah. My only friend,

39:29

the end. What does this mean

39:31

for people like me who are

39:34

already poor? You know, I mean,

39:36

almost just be better going into

39:38

this knowing that you have nothing

39:40

because you can't watch. things just

39:42

crumble into dust overnight, you know,

39:44

millions of dollars of wealth. I

39:46

hope that he's like, I mean,

39:48

six trillion dollars of wealth just

39:50

disappeared at an instant. Yeah, yeah,

39:52

yeah. I hope that video of

39:54

Donald Trump talking about. investors getting

39:56

yippy and all these morons like

39:58

Laura Ingram last night on Fox

40:00

News saying oh my god look

40:02

at Donald Trump such a genius

40:04

such a financial whiz kid and

40:06

I hope you're fucking sleep at

40:08

night it's gonna be like the

40:11

remember the George W Bush bring

40:13

him on thing right before the

40:15

insurgency began in Iraq yeah that

40:17

became where brownie you did a

40:19

heck of a job that's what

40:21

that video from yesterday's gonna be

40:23

all about because they were God

40:25

remember the Geez, they do this

40:27

all the time. They totally jumped

40:29

the gun. Remember when the repeal

40:31

of the Affordable Care Act passed

40:33

just the House of Representatives and

40:35

Donald held a huge ceremony in

40:37

the Rose Garden or the former

40:39

Rose Garden. You didn't know the

40:41

Senate existed. Right, right. And it

40:43

ended up not passing in the

40:45

Senate. I don't know if that

40:48

was the same one where John

40:50

McCain did the thumbs down. That

40:52

was John McCain. Because I was

40:54

on my honeymoon and having to

40:56

write it from Puerto Rico from

40:58

Puerto Rico. Yeah. Well, it's another

41:00

situation like that, where they completely

41:02

jumped the gun. So, uh, that

41:04

just keeps, yeah, exactly. That just

41:06

keeps having charge, yeah. Yeah. Uh,

41:08

I gotta check in here on

41:10

the Dell, see where we are.

41:12

Yeah, it's still down a thousand

41:14

points. So, it's, yeah. So

41:17

yeah, I was talking about the

41:19

TAO Dow every time you do

41:21

that like the Dow you know

41:24

the Dow being super spiritual today

41:26

Yeah, I was just I don't

41:28

know why I just I land

41:30

on the Dow the Dow Jones

41:32

Industrial average is sort of my

41:34

benchmark for charting this stuff But

41:36

the S&P is down 3% NASDAQ

41:39

down almost 4% Russell 2000 is

41:41

down almost 4% New York stock

41:43

exchange down almost 3% This is

41:45

not good And it's all Donald's

41:47

fault. This is 1,000% Donald's fault.

41:49

There's not some holdover from Biden

41:52

or whatever bullshit disinformation they're going

41:54

to spread around. Oh, but they're

41:56

going to say it. I mean,

41:58

oh, of course they will. Oh,

42:00

by the way, it's not just

42:02

Donald. It's all the republic. So,

42:04

speaking of all the Republicans, you

42:07

know what? You're about to talk

42:09

about Marjorie Taylor Green, aren't you?

42:11

Oh, that fucking... I just want

42:13

to repeat that signal gate has

42:15

completely fallen out of the news.

42:17

Just no one's talking about it.

42:19

Of course it has. That's why

42:22

I asked you when we were

42:24

talking about it. Like, what are

42:26

you going to do when nobody

42:28

does anything about this? I mean,

42:30

it's egregious. At least we've got

42:32

Rocky Mountain Mike, right? Right, right.

42:35

You got a copy on me

42:37

pick set? Come on. Uh, yeah,

42:39

10-4 pick set? For sure, for

42:41

sure. By golly, this channel is

42:43

secure. Clean to you, man, come

42:45

on. Yeah, it's a big 10-4

42:47

there, pick set. Yeah, we definitely

42:50

got no journalists on this channel,

42:52

good buddy. We're seeing things alive.

42:54

Looks like we got us a

42:56

neo-con boy. It was before our

42:58

charge on the eyes of March

43:00

on our iPhones' attention hogs, hung

43:03

over Peaton with an unclear doubt,

43:05

and Little Marco, that's Trump's lap

43:07

dog. We was heading to war

43:09

with the hoodies now, not them,

43:11

not the blowfish kind. I said,

43:13

Pig Seth, this here's the trumpet

43:15

duct, and we're about to be

43:18

asked to resign. The gentleman knows

43:20

today that you aren't in the

43:22

government of the USA. He'll con

43:24

boy. Yeah, Jamie, what's your 20?

43:26

Greenland. Well, they ought to know

43:28

what to do with the big

43:30

fat orich whale out there for

43:33

sure. Well, mercy sakes good buddy.

43:35

We're going to emoji our way

43:37

out of here. So keep the

43:39

bugs off your apps and to

43:41

press off your tail. We'll catch

43:43

you in the spin zone. This

43:46

here's the trumpet duck on the

43:48

side. We gone. Bye bye. Bye.

43:50

All right, Rocky Mountain Bike. You

43:52

know, I gotta say, I love

43:54

Rocky Mountain Bike's singing voice. I

43:56

know. There's this sarcastic tone about

43:58

it that I just find so

44:01

brilliant. And I don't even know

44:03

if it's intentional. I mean, he'll

44:05

probably send me an email and

44:07

clarify this But it's not just

44:09

the lyrics which are always funny

44:11

and brilliant, but it's also his

44:14

singing tone for some reason comes

44:16

off as so snarky, which is

44:18

the perfect, perfect thing to match

44:20

the lyrics that he's actually singing.

44:22

So thank you, Rocky Mountain, Mike,

44:24

Rocky, M&T, and Mike, on all

44:26

your favorite social media apps. Well,

44:29

you're gonna say one day really

44:31

quick, though. I just, you know,

44:33

like, I made a pledge to

44:35

myself after I laid around feeling

44:37

like I'd been harpooned for a

44:39

week after the election that I

44:41

was not gonna like spend the

44:44

next four years constantly sad and

44:46

angry. that this bunch of fucking

44:48

people who would be out of

44:50

their depth working as jack-a-lanterns. you

44:52

know, are like completely tearing apart

44:54

the government that my grandfathers fought

44:57

for in war war two and

44:59

in Korea that my father fought

45:01

for in Vietnam and you know

45:03

this country that I was mostly

45:05

proud of I knew could use

45:07

some work and it's just become

45:09

a fucking clouch and we are

45:12

not technically any longer a civilized

45:14

nation. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

45:16

And I think about that. I

45:18

think it when Sandy Hook didn't

45:20

actually make them take automatic weapons,

45:22

you know, That's when we kind

45:25

of dropped this civilization ball entirely.

45:27

Yeah, yeah. Well, I've been thinking

45:29

along those same lines, especially during

45:31

the election season last year. I

45:33

was like, you know what? Voting

45:35

for Donald Trump, you're completely flushing

45:37

down the crapper, the sacrifice of

45:40

so many American veterans, American soldiers,

45:42

who fought and died for democracy.

45:44

And on top of that, there

45:46

is this. ongoing theme in the

45:48

Republican Party and the conservative movement

45:50

about returning America to the heyday

45:52

of the 1950s despite all of

45:55

the awfulness that existed. I'm a

45:57

lady person I don't want to

45:59

go to. Yeah no I mean

46:01

there. I'm a queer person, I

46:03

really don't want to go get

46:05

a lot of rice. I'm a

46:08

white man. And put on the

46:10

bromide salts, you know, in the

46:12

1950s. I'm a white man, I'll

46:14

be fine in the 1950s, but

46:16

that's not necessarily a good thing.

46:18

Suffice to say, the reason the

46:20

1950s were so great, for white

46:23

people at least, was because of

46:25

the New Deal policies of the

46:27

taxier era. Yeah, because of democratic

46:29

socialism that existed during that period

46:31

of time, during the run-up to

46:33

the 1950s. The GI Bill was

46:36

a big part of that. The

46:38

fact that you could have a

46:40

beautiful home. and you could have

46:42

two cars, and you could have

46:44

a pension, and you could be

46:46

able to send your child to

46:48

college, maybe the first person in

46:51

your entire family to be able

46:53

to go to college, and you

46:55

could afford to pay for that,

46:57

based on all of the guardrails

46:59

that were put up, the social

47:01

safety net that was established during

47:03

the 1930s and 1940s. And the

47:06

only way to get back to

47:08

the 1950s would be to... buttress

47:10

all of those things again, and

47:12

instead, they're just tearing all that

47:14

shit down. And then expecting it

47:16

to be, you know, the greatness

47:19

of the 1950s again. And I

47:21

put greatness in dick quotes because

47:23

it wasn't ever done. Yeah, if

47:25

you bankrupt. society, if you hog

47:27

all the money, how are you

47:29

expecting to have this great society?

47:31

Yeah, right. Like it doesn't just

47:34

come, it didn't fall like manna

47:36

from heaven. It's paid for by

47:38

taxes. Yeah. Well, it was clarifying

47:40

to me when I heard Michael

47:42

Noles, DailyWire podcast or Michael Noles,

47:44

say that he's not interested in

47:47

returning America to the 1950s. America

47:49

to the sick. No to the

47:51

1650s. He literally said the 1650s

47:53

and it wasn't a gap. He

47:55

meant the 1650s Okay, so when

47:57

we just got here. Yeah, obviously

47:59

the point was that he wants

48:02

to return to an era when

48:04

everyone but white men were completely

48:06

oppressed and there was slavery and

48:08

there was disease and colonialism and

48:10

eradication of indigenous people. Yeah, yeah,

48:12

exactly. And that's the idea. And

48:14

I don't know. Do these people

48:17

really want to live in that

48:19

period of time? Because I always

48:21

think about this that there are

48:23

plenty of women who vote for

48:25

MAGa Republicans. Who would then be

48:27

chattel in that kind of climate,

48:30

right? It's called cock-home syndrome. Yeah,

48:32

but I mean this brings up

48:34

this brings up the save act

48:36

which the House just passed today

48:38

Yeah passed with by the way

48:40

four Democrats voted for this Reps

48:42

Jared Golden from Maine Marie Glucin

48:45

Camp Perez from Washington Henry Cuellar

48:47

from Texas and Ed Case from

48:49

Hawaii So if you don't know

48:51

the Save Act would make it

48:53

more difficult for active voters, by

48:55

the way, this is according to

48:58

democracy docket, make it more difficult

49:00

for active voters, Republicans and Democrats

49:02

alike to continue participating in elections

49:04

and would erect unprecedented barriers for

49:06

new voters hoping to register and

49:08

participate. The bill would require everyone

49:10

registering to vote or updating the

49:13

registration information to prevent documentary proof

49:15

of citizenship in person. I'm sorry

49:17

to present documentary proof of citizenship

49:19

in person. Recent studies have shown

49:21

that millions of eligible voters lack

49:23

easy access to documents that prove

49:25

their citizenship like... passport, birth certificate,

49:28

or naturalization papers. As many as

49:30

21.3 million US citizens, more than

49:32

9% of voters do not have

49:34

such documents readily available, and over

49:36

3.8 million people, around 2% of

49:38

voters, don't have any form of

49:41

proof, according to recent survey results,

49:43

gathered by the Brennan Center for

49:45

Justice and other organizations. The law

49:47

would disproportionately affect voters of color.

49:49

Millions of people who have taken

49:51

their spouses last name, which includes

49:53

approximately 69 million married women. and

49:56

people who have changed their names

49:58

may also face difficulty when registering

50:00

or updating registration info because the

50:02

law doesn't specify what documents would

50:04

be accepted to prove their identity.

50:06

But chances are this will be

50:09

filibustered in the Senate. The Republicans

50:11

don't have the votes to overcome

50:13

the filibuster unless a bunch of

50:15

stupid Democrats decide to vote with

50:17

the Republicans, which is always a

50:19

possibility these days. Looking at you,

50:21

Chuck Schumer. So we need to

50:24

make sure that we all call

50:26

our Democratic members of the Senate

50:28

and make sure that they're all

50:30

voting in unison to filibuster this

50:32

awfulness. I mean, who can say

50:34

at this point? Yeah, you're right.

50:36

I mean, here I am going

50:39

way on an limb that all

50:41

Democrats are going to vote in

50:43

unison to block this horrendousness. But

50:45

I think if we all apply

50:47

pressure, I don't I don't think

50:49

there's any chance that Democrats will

50:52

break ranks. You know, you're so

50:54

sweet. Well, Chuck Schumer might be

50:56

the first person on your list

50:58

to call. We need like 10

51:00

more John Osov and 10 fewer

51:02

Chuck Schumer's. Yes, right. Okay, well

51:04

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51:07

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51:09

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52:45

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52:47

uh, Donald's poll numbers

52:49

continue to decline, of

52:51

course, and this comes

52:53

to us, by the

52:56

way, in case there

52:58

are any maggotrols listening

53:00

to the show, which,

53:02

if there are, hi,

53:04

greetings, go fuck yourself.

53:06

This comes to us

53:08

from Fox news.com. The

53:10

headline, where Trump's approval

53:13

rating as president stands

53:15

in a brand new

53:17

national poll, Trump stands

53:19

at 41% approval in

53:21

a Quinnipiac national survey

53:23

conducted April 3rd through

53:25

7th and released on

53:27

Wednesday, but... Trump stands

53:29

at 40% approval 55%

53:32

disapproval on his handling

53:34

of the economy That's

53:36

a big fucking deal

53:38

and asked how the

53:40

president is dealing with

53:42

the issues of trade

53:44

only 39% of respondents

53:46

said they approved while

53:48

55% gave Trump a

53:51

thumbs down Now what

53:53

disturbed me about this

53:55

is the border security

53:57

aspect of this Quinnipiac

53:59

poll because Donald's approval

54:01

rating on border security

54:03

slash mass deportations is

54:05

56% and only 43%

54:07

disapproved. Because it's the

54:10

way they're asking the

54:12

question. They're calling them,

54:14

you know, illegal. name

54:16

illegal aliens or people who are

54:19

here unlawful. It might be more

54:21

along the lines of, do you

54:23

support border security, maybe something more

54:25

general like that? Yeah, to me,

54:27

I mean, and Quinnipiac is a

54:29

right leading pole anyway. I just,

54:32

I feel like it's that same

54:34

kind of framing question as like,

54:36

do we want biological men competing

54:38

with little girls and swimming? Yeah.

54:40

You know, like, it's just that

54:42

the framing is shitty. Maybe this

54:44

is also part of my disillusionment

54:47

with voters or people who respond

54:49

to polls or maybe both. But

54:51

it seems like you should know

54:53

what they're getting at with this

54:55

question. Regardless of how it's phrased,

54:57

it's like, okay, am I being

54:59

asked to approve or disapprove of

55:02

Donald Trump's border security policy, which

55:04

includes disappearing American citizens into El

55:06

Salvadoran gulags and torture chambers. Do

55:08

I approve of this? And they're

55:10

not letting them come back. I

55:12

mean, that's the thing. Yeah. If

55:14

they can't... If this is accurate,

55:17

we're talking about a whole bunch

55:19

of people who voted for Kamala

55:21

Harris last time around. You know

55:23

what I mean? Because if you

55:25

factor the MAGA faithful at around

55:27

35% Then you add a bunch

55:29

of swing voters in there maybe

55:32

kind of sort of there are

55:34

some Democrats who voted for Connell

55:36

Harris who support whatever the fuck

55:38

Donald is doing with this horrendous

55:40

draconian mass deportation policy I feel

55:42

like some of our sense of

55:45

community has been dissolved. Yeah. I,

55:47

yeah. This whole idea that like

55:49

I shouldn't be happy that shitty

55:51

things are happening to my neighbors.

55:53

Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I, I, I,

55:55

I, I am lucky though, I

55:57

live in a liberal university town

56:00

and the vase. here is still

56:02

very much like it's always been

56:04

but it's just weird to me

56:06

out that so many people are

56:08

this malicious yeah and that some

56:10

people are you know because I

56:12

just I don't give a fuck

56:15

about immigration If you want to

56:17

come here, come here. People get,

56:19

you know, come here and get

56:21

jobs and they work incredibly hard.

56:23

And I mean, maybe it's just

56:25

because I'm married to an immigrant,

56:27

but I just, you know, I

56:30

really feel like border policy is

56:32

like what Kurt Vonnegut called a

56:34

grandfaloon, you know, like a big

56:36

empty concept that like, and we've

56:38

criminalized something that's not. criminal something

56:40

that we all want for ourselves

56:43

is the chance to live in

56:45

as an American and like live

56:47

in America work hard and make

56:49

yourself a better life yes of

56:51

course there should be some degree

56:53

of allowing people to come here

56:55

legally a path to citizenship you

56:58

know it's crazy but you look

57:00

back at the George W. Bush

57:02

immigration policy or the Ronald Reagan

57:04

immigration policy and it seems so

57:06

relatively sane compared to what's going

57:08

on right now And suffice to

57:10

say that be that you could

57:13

count on Republicans to at least

57:15

do the math. Yeah, exactly. You

57:17

know, and then at some point.

57:19

I mean, the whole the whole

57:21

driving principle behind the United States

57:23

is our multiculturalism. I mean, obviously

57:25

democracy and the Bill of Rights.

57:28

I mean, these are all things

57:30

that we hold dear as Americans.

57:32

But in terms of our societal

57:34

makeup, we come from all over

57:36

the place. It's whether it's no

57:38

such thing as American food. Exactly.

57:40

Thank you. That makes us so

57:43

unique in the history of the

57:45

world and the history of human

57:47

civilization. I always go back to

57:49

this and this is something to

57:51

be perfectly honest, this is something

57:53

I kind of crib from of

57:56

all people Chris Matthews right when

57:58

Barack Obama was elected president and

58:00

he was commenting waxing philosophic about

58:02

the ascendancy of Barack Obama and

58:04

how rare it is to see

58:06

someone in position of national leadership

58:08

who isn't part of the dominant

58:11

ethnic group in that nation. If

58:13

you think of other powerful nations,

58:15

especially Western nations, it's all centered

58:17

around one ethnicity. Look at Japanese

58:19

Parliament, for example. You're probably only

58:21

gonna find Japanese people in the

58:23

Japanese Parliament. I don't think you're

58:26

gonna see anyone who looks like

58:28

Barack Obama serving in the Japanese

58:30

Parliament. I mean, yeah. So this

58:32

makes us unique. This makes us

58:34

special. If you want to talk

58:36

about American exceptionalism, I think our

58:38

exceptionalism lies in our multiculturalism. And

58:41

I love like being able to

58:43

sit somewhere in here. Like four

58:45

different languages being. Yes. I love

58:47

that too. But this is where

58:49

we go back to people doing

58:51

scientific studies though of like conservatives

58:54

and progressives and the fact that

58:56

we're more into embracing experiences of

58:58

difference and novelty. Yes. Yes. We

59:00

want to meet people who are

59:02

different from us so we can

59:04

find out about them. We're curious.

59:06

And that's what like is so

59:09

tragic to me about this generation

59:11

of young people who are like

59:13

young magga who have already closed

59:15

their minds against. You

59:17

know, it's just it's it's disappointing.

59:19

Yeah, there's a a trendiness about

59:21

it There's a social media meme

59:23

aspect of bigotry these days and

59:26

that extends not just to immigrants

59:28

But it's the algorithm feed on

59:30

rage right because you get like

59:32

people hate clicks are driving the

59:34

world right now. That's exactly right

59:36

People associate that kind of bigotry

59:38

with their online brands. And when

59:41

they see that they gain attention

59:43

for it, it's like the industry

59:45

of attention right now. I'm not

59:47

sure exactly, or the economy of

59:49

attention. Where Chris Hayes wrote a

59:51

great book about this recently. It's

59:53

talking about how attention is a

59:55

commodity now. real estate. Yeah and

59:58

if you get attention for something

1:00:00

you've said on social media and

1:00:02

people flock to your post or

1:00:04

whatever your YouTube video then you're

1:00:06

encouraged to do that over and

1:00:08

over again because it's like oh

1:00:10

holy shit I guess this is

1:00:13

my thing now this is my

1:00:15

brand so I'm gonna keep bringing

1:00:17

that bell and and it leads

1:00:19

to this kind of oppression. I

1:00:21

remember posting that video of that

1:00:23

Tufts exchange student. getting disappeared off

1:00:25

the street. And what's her first

1:00:27

name? Ramaya, I have to look

1:00:30

it up now. I feel terrible.

1:00:32

I'm blanking on the name. But

1:00:34

suffice to say, there were a

1:00:36

lot of maggotrols popping up in

1:00:38

my Instagram comments saying things like

1:00:40

whomp whomp. Rowan R. A. W.

1:00:42

A. A. A. A. A. A.

1:00:45

What's the latest on here? Is

1:00:47

there any news in terms of

1:00:49

whether she's been freed? Yeah, she's

1:00:51

still she's still captive because it

1:00:53

says here democracy now has the

1:00:55

headline Federal judge in Vermont will

1:00:57

consider a request for ice to

1:00:59

release Tufts University student Romesa Oz

1:01:02

Turk on bail while her case

1:01:04

is resolved in court This came

1:01:06

after a judge ruled her case

1:01:08

could be moved from Boston to

1:01:10

the state of Vermont Oz Turk

1:01:12

remains jailed at a privately run

1:01:14

ice detention center in Louisiana fuck

1:01:17

in hell What is wrong? The

1:01:19

sick, soulless nation we live in

1:01:21

now. I mean, 56% of Americans

1:01:23

are okay with this shit. Are

1:01:25

you fucking kidding me? Yeah, we

1:01:27

can quibble over the language of

1:01:29

the poll question, I get that.

1:01:31

But let's just take it at

1:01:34

face value. That is disgusting. Those

1:01:36

of you who should know better,

1:01:38

those of you who voted for

1:01:40

Kamala Harris, vote for Democrats, those

1:01:42

who are registered Democrats, or even

1:01:44

independents who tend to vote for

1:01:46

Democrats. What the fuck is wrong

1:01:49

with you? Now I

1:01:51

love this this brave face that

1:01:53

gets put on well, you know,

1:01:55

I want them to get rid

1:01:57

of the criminals and gang members

1:02:00

Yeah, but that's not what's happening.

1:02:02

They're disappearing students. Okay, well, I

1:02:04

don't want to end the show

1:02:06

on a down note like that.

1:02:08

So let's talk about this new

1:02:11

executive order that Donald Trump issued

1:02:13

yesterday. The executive order is maintaining

1:02:15

acceptable water pressure in shower heads.

1:02:17

Oh, no. This again. I'm telling

1:02:20

you, the first mission of a

1:02:22

new Congress, a new president after

1:02:24

this is all said and done.

1:02:26

is to seriously roll back the

1:02:29

presidential executive orders power. Yeah. To

1:02:31

completely curb that. I mean, obviously

1:02:33

there are certain things that require

1:02:35

executive orders for the functioning of

1:02:38

the executive branch. I understand that.

1:02:40

But this has now gotten to

1:02:42

the place where it's being abused,

1:02:44

it's being substituted for actual law,

1:02:47

and obviously Donald Trump's usage of

1:02:49

it is record-breaking and utterly fucking

1:02:51

horrendous. And there's this frivolous aspect

1:02:53

to it too, with executive orders

1:02:55

regarding the water pressure and shower

1:02:58

heads, because Donald Trump is fucking

1:03:00

bald and can't clean that nine

1:03:02

feet of hair that gets curled

1:03:04

up in a dairy swirl on

1:03:07

top of his head. Our shower

1:03:09

is fine. Yeah, my shower's fine

1:03:11

too. There's all these new shower

1:03:13

heads too that use a minimum

1:03:16

of water and give you like

1:03:18

blasting pressure if you want it.

1:03:20

Like it seems, you know, like

1:03:22

it's not. The only person talking

1:03:25

about water pressure is Donald fucking

1:03:27

Trump. So this is Donald Trump

1:03:29

making good on his pledge to

1:03:31

return the water pressure to shower

1:03:33

heads and dishwashers and. Things that

1:03:36

are just completely unnecessary, but yet

1:03:38

he's abusing executive power in order

1:03:40

to get there For fuck's sake

1:03:42

I guess also if I can

1:03:45

demon in the exercise like it

1:03:47

birds Yeah, the fucking stupidity of

1:03:49

it. Oh, by the way, just

1:03:51

the yeah, just the what? Just

1:03:54

the the shrinking of the presidency,

1:03:56

the destruction of the dignity of

1:03:58

the... Well, yeah, you know what?

1:04:00

I'm glad you brought that up,

1:04:03

because that's kind of also, you

1:04:05

know, in addition to online memes

1:04:07

and social media branding and things

1:04:09

like that, propelling Donald Trump to

1:04:11

the presidency. There's also this demystification

1:04:14

of the presidency. that has been

1:04:16

happening among the Republican Party for

1:04:18

a long long time now oh

1:04:20

yeah so you know you should

1:04:23

vote for president who you should

1:04:25

want to have a beer with

1:04:27

or that presence need to be

1:04:29

folks and then people believe that

1:04:32

anyone can be president because Donald

1:04:34

fucking Trump has become president twice

1:04:36

It started with Reagan, who I'm

1:04:38

like, I hope I don't make

1:04:41

an ass out of myself in

1:04:43

front of this person. You know,

1:04:45

like, I want them to be

1:04:47

so smart that it's like a

1:04:49

palpable tension in the air around

1:04:52

him. Yes, yes. I always say

1:04:54

this, but it bears repeating. I

1:04:56

don't want a president who's just

1:04:58

like me. I want a president,

1:05:01

because I'm a podcaster who plays

1:05:03

fart noises on the show on

1:05:05

his podcast. And so therefore I

1:05:07

don't want someone with the nuclear

1:05:10

codes who was a fucking game

1:05:12

show host Thank you. Oh for

1:05:14

fun. I don't think he's going

1:05:16

to be president a year from

1:05:19

now I don't know what kind

1:05:21

of situation we're going to be

1:05:23

in and what kind of shit

1:05:25

is going to be on fire

1:05:27

But I do not think just

1:05:30

between like the way he looks

1:05:32

right now and the fact that

1:05:34

he's clearly not in copus mentis

1:05:36

Yeah, I mean he's just like

1:05:39

you show Latin Yeah Thank you.

1:05:41

I mean, I'll be here all

1:05:43

week. Seriously. Yes. Well, the games

1:05:45

go on. The trade war goes

1:05:48

on. Let's have a last check

1:05:50

of the Dow here before we

1:05:52

wrap up the free portion of

1:05:54

the show. 3 p.m. Eastern. Yeah,

1:05:57

it's probably going to end down.

1:05:59

Right now we're at minus 986

1:06:01

points. Don't they close? at 3

1:06:03

p.m. 2 and a half percent

1:06:06

down yeah it's still it's under

1:06:08

40 thousand yesterday we closed above

1:06:10

40 thousand now it's below 40

1:06:12

thousand and we'll probably close that

1:06:14

way once again the S&P is

1:06:17

down 3% NASDAQ down almost 4%

1:06:19

Russell 2000 down 4% New York

1:06:21

Stock Exchange composite down 2.5% it's

1:06:23

it didn't work all you fucking

1:06:26

sickofants and morons ask hisers magga

1:06:28

disciples We're saying Donald Trump's some

1:06:30

fucking genius. Prove it. Show us.

1:06:32

What the fuck was the math

1:06:35

here? What was the calculus? A

1:06:37

temporary spike in the stock market?

1:06:39

That was it. Only to disintegrate?

1:06:41

It didn't even regain all the

1:06:44

losses from when Donald Trump was

1:06:46

inaugurated. I mean, we've lost significant

1:06:48

amount of money off the down.

1:06:50

Of the, all the markets, all

1:06:52

the indexes, all the indexes. Holy

1:06:55

shit. The shatter dockets coming up

1:06:57

next that's something to look forward

1:06:59

to isn't it? Lots of more

1:07:01

to talk about come on. Yeah

1:07:04

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1:07:33

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1:07:35

stuff fun tragic stuff. Yes And

1:07:37

you know what I got to

1:07:39

play this one more time while

1:07:42

we're here because this is so

1:07:44

much fun President Trump is counting

1:07:46

on it Thank you Tom Emmer

1:07:48

Tom Hamer is the unlikely MVP

1:07:51

of today's show. Thank you Tom

1:07:53

of the final countdown Okay, as

1:07:55

I said more to come on

1:07:57

the shatter docket Let's

1:08:00

see, yeah. IRS turmoil, that'll be fun. Oh,

1:08:02

you know what? You're be fun. do

1:08:04

a heroes of democracy on the know

1:08:06

what, docket. do a Heroes

1:08:09

of Democracy on the Shadow

1:08:11

of A couple we of

1:08:13

Democracy we need to talk

1:08:15

about. Egg prices. Linda McMahon is a McMuron, a

1:08:17

whole lot lot more. See you

1:08:19

over there there folks, bye-bye.