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Welcome back to The Breakdown
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with me, NLW. It's
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a daily podcast on macro, Bitcoin,
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and the big picture power shifts remaking
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our world. What's
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going on guys? It is Monday, April 21st, and
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today we are catching up on, well, a lot.
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Before we get into that, however, if you are
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bit .ly slash breakdown pod. All right,
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friends, we are finally back from vacation,
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Disney spring break, Easter, all that jazz.
0:42
And today, what we're going to do to kick things
0:44
off is do a quick high level recap of
0:47
everything that we missed and everything that sets up the
0:49
week to come. This will bridge
0:51
across both macro and crypto. And to start
0:53
off, let's talk about the trade talks
0:55
that have kicked off in Washington with Japan,
0:57
South Korea, and the UK, as some
0:59
of the US's largest trading partners come to
1:01
the table. The South Korean delegation is
1:03
heading into town this week, but Japan was
1:05
the focus for last week. As the first
1:07
country to sit down for negotiations with President
1:10
Trump, Japan served as something of a
1:12
litmus test for how trade talks might proceed.
1:14
Initial reports weren't all that promising for
1:16
a speedy resolution. Veteran diplomat
1:19
Chas Friedman said, The Japanese have
1:21
just been in Washington. Their experience apparently was that
1:23
they went to talk to the American leadership
1:25
on this matter. The American leadership asked, what
1:27
are you offering? And the Japanese said, well,
1:29
what is it that you want? The Americans could
1:31
not explain what it is they wanted. This
1:33
is a cockamamie approach to negotiation. Now
1:36
some will say that this is an art of the
1:38
deal strategy, never wanting to be the one
1:40
to make a first offer at the negotiation table. But
1:42
with global trade on hold, there are many people who
1:44
question the premise of the whole thing. Still,
1:47
President Trump left the meeting promoting big
1:49
progress on social media. Treasury Secretary
1:51
Scott Besant tweeted that the discussions on
1:53
trade are progressing in a highly satisfactory
1:55
direction. Reports over the weekend suggested
1:57
that the Japanese government would consider increasing
1:59
imports of rice and soybeans as a bargaining chip.
2:02
There were no reports of movement on aligning Japanese
2:04
vehicle regulations with the U .S. to allow the
2:06
import of American cars, which had been a
2:08
major sticking point for Trump. Breaking late
2:10
on Sunday, Charles Gasparino of Fox
2:12
Business reported, quote, A Wall Street
2:14
exec with ties to Trump White House says the
2:16
word is that Secretary Besant is close to
2:18
announcing a significant trade deal likely to be with
2:20
Japan. Gasparino included an extensive
2:23
caveat that he hadn't confirmed from White
2:25
House sources that a deal could always
2:27
unwind and that timing is always suspect.
2:30
FinTWIT latched onto the very fishy timing of
2:32
this weekly source news bomb. Bukko
2:34
Capital suggested that Bill Ackman is the Wall
2:36
Street source, quote, who always has bullish
2:38
news on trade deal progress two hours before
2:40
futures open on Sunday night. Meanwhile,
2:42
big questions remain over the status of negotiations
2:44
with the EU. Trump met
2:46
with Italian Prime Minister Giorgio Merlone on
2:48
Thursday, the only European leader to meet with
2:51
the president during this term. Following the
2:53
meeting, Trump claimed there will be a trade
2:55
deal 100%. However, on Tuesday, EU Commission Chief
2:57
Ursula von der Leyen told the press, the
2:59
West, as we know it, no longer exists.
3:02
What we've perceived as a world order is becoming a
3:04
world disorder. This is why we need
3:06
another new EU that is ready to go out into the
3:08
big wide world and play a very active role in
3:10
shaping this new world order that is coming. Ultimately,
3:12
Italy cannot negotiate their own trade deal
3:15
independent of the continental trading bloc. Von
3:17
der Leyen is yet to pick up the
3:19
phone personally, sending the EU trade representative to Washington
3:21
last Monday. China continues to be
3:23
the biggest vacuum in the negotiations. And
3:25
to a certain extent this is by design. Some
3:28
believe that the entire strategy is to
3:30
coerce a global trading alliance against China. leaning
3:32
on allies to join in pushing back
3:34
on their manufacturing superpower. Trump remains
3:36
adamant that a deal is coming. In
3:38
response to press questions about communications with Beijing on Thursday, he
3:40
said, Oh, we're going to make a deal. I think
3:42
we're going to make a very good deal with China. Beijing
3:45
appears, for their part, to be making preparations to
3:47
wait it out. In a statement on
3:49
Monday, CCP officials warned that any country reaching
3:51
a deal with the US at China's detriment will
3:53
face countermeasures, essentially threatening retaliation
3:55
against countries that sign a US trade
3:57
deal. President Xi Jinping has also
3:59
been touring Vietnam, Malaysia, and Cambodia over the
4:01
past week to drum up support. Fiscal
4:03
authorities have begun ramping up support for
4:05
manufacturing in both direct subsidies and
4:08
technical assistance to redirect goods to the
4:10
domestic market to keep factories operational. In
4:12
the background, the export of rare earth metals
4:14
have been essentially embargoed by a change
4:16
in licensing requirements. Keep in mind China
4:18
essentially has a monopoly on these key inputs
4:20
to EV and military production. The TLDR
4:22
of all of this is that the trade war is still
4:24
far from resolution. The so -called reciprocal
4:27
tariffs are on hold for 90 days, but
4:29
in the meantime, 10 % global baseline tariffs
4:31
are in force. Apollo Global Management
4:33
noted that on average, the US takes
4:35
18 months to sign a trade deal and
4:37
45 months to implement. Secretary
4:39
Besin has said that 15 large economies are
4:41
a primary focus, but that leaves some
4:43
60 to 85 lesser economies standing in line.
4:46
What's more, the domestic economy might not be able to
4:48
wait 90 days for trade talks to come through. On
4:51
Thursday, the Philadelphia Fed reported the
4:53
sharpest declines in manufacturing activity since
4:55
2020. Beyond uncertainty and domestic
4:57
demand, increases in input costs are
4:59
making large sections of U .S. manufacturing
5:01
completely unviable. There's almost nothing
5:03
in the U .S. that is produced end -to
5:05
-end from locally sourced inputs, so even for
5:07
domestic manufacturers, the tariffs have a huge impact. Atlantic
5:10
journalist Derek Thompson tweeted, A
5:14
growing US manufacturing economy declared it broken,
5:16
started a trade war and broke US
5:18
manufacturing. Thompson
5:22
interviewed Molson Hart, the CEO of
5:24
Viahart, a toy manufacturing company. He
5:26
said, The tariffs don't go anywhere, toys
5:28
are the least of our worries. What about transformers
5:30
and pumps and air conditioners? At a certain point
5:32
the stock of replacement pumps we need for clean
5:34
water are going to run out. There isn't anyone
5:36
building new factories for those things, and the factories
5:38
won't be ready in time. Two
5:47
of our American customers devastated by the tariffs
5:49
gave up and sold themselves to their Chinese factories
5:52
in the last week. Outbound shipping
5:54
from China is already showing up in the data. So
5:56
far this month there have been 80
5:58
blank sailings, cargo ship departures that are cancelled by
6:00
the carrier. The peak in May
6:02
of 2020 was 51. Craig
6:05
Fuller, the founder of Logistics Intelligence Company
6:07
Freight Waves, believes the downstream effects
6:09
are underappreciated, commenting, Many truckers I've
6:11
spoken with don't realize how quickly container
6:13
volumes have collapsed. Starting in May, port freight
6:15
out of California will be almost eliminated. It's
6:18
going to be a bloodbath in short -distance
6:20
transit, followed by intermodal, and then a collapse
6:22
in I -20 and I -40 trucking. For
6:25
all the economic carnage so far, the benefits that
6:27
have accrued at least to date seem pretty
6:29
slim. The U .S. Customs Office reports
6:31
that only 500 million in tariff fees have been
6:33
collected. Felix Javan, the host of
6:35
the Forward Guidance podcast, remarked on how broad
6:37
the deterioration in the data has been, commenting,
6:40
Economic activity is falling off a cliff and any
6:42
activity that remains the prices are going up Absolute
6:45
worst scenario for policymakers here, especially with
6:47
no meaningful idea of how permanent
6:49
tariffs will be. We're at a
6:51
phase now where even if they get removed today,
6:53
the economy is already scarred and will have
6:55
cascading impacts regardless. Steve Howe of
6:57
Bloomberg Researcher wrote, This trade war
6:59
and the whole so -called remake of global order like
7:01
Brexit will just make all of us poorer, it? Just
7:04
like Brexit, the proponents feel fully justified that something
7:06
had to be done. exposed something
7:08
was done, but the problem wasn't solved.
7:10
It got worse. Rahma Lawalia
7:12
of Wealth brought it all together, tweeting,
7:15
is slow walking the negotiation and why shouldn't
7:17
they? US trading partners like Japan and Europe
7:19
have more leverage than the United States. Small
7:23
businesses will bear the brunt of the tariffs,
7:25
and small business owners vote Republican disproportionately. Small
7:28
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7:30
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9:18
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9:20
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9:22
very fundamental policy changes. There isn't a modern
9:24
experience of how to think about this. He
9:26
noted that the tariffs were far higher than
9:28
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9:31
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9:33
our intention. He
9:38
was asked directly if there was a Fed
9:40
put, a level at which the central bank would
9:42
step in to address falling stock prices. Powell
9:44
responded with a blunt no, adding, Market's
9:46
are struggling with a lot of uncertainty and that
9:48
means volatility. But having said that, markets
9:50
are functioning. They're orderly and they're functioning just about
9:52
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9:54
analysts took this as an extremely hawkish speech, with
9:56
Powell essentially saying that the risks of inflation
9:58
could be too great to allow the Fed to cut.
10:01
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10:03
was incredibly hawkish. So much so, he went
10:05
out of his way to warn of elevated
10:07
structural risks for the United States, making it
10:09
a less attractive jurisdiction for investment. He also
10:11
downplayed the recent market volatility as
10:13
orderly functioning as expected. Megahawk.
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Station, wrote, The
10:24
following
10:26
day, Trump again raised the threat of removing
10:28
Powell, stating, If
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I want him out, he'll be out of there real fast,
10:33
believe me. If we had a Fed chairman that understood what
10:35
he was doing, interest rates would be coming down. He should
10:37
bring them down. National Economic Council Director
10:39
Kevin Hassett told the press that the
10:41
administration will continue to study whether they can
10:43
remove Powell from the position. The letter
10:45
of the law says that Fed chairs can
10:47
only be removed for cause, which generally means
10:49
gross negligence or corruption rather than a policy
10:52
disagreement with the White House. Still,
10:54
the risk to central bank independence is now
10:56
overt and even has some staunch Trump supporters
10:58
queasy. Anthony Pampleano said, I do not
11:00
believe that the President of the United States
11:02
should come in and unilaterally fire the Fed chair.
11:05
Where you have a disagreement and then the firing, I think
11:07
that's not really the area that we want to go into. The
11:09
idea of firing the Fed chairman is a very bad
11:11
precedent to set this way. Honestly, at
11:14
this point, many of the markets think it's just a
11:16
matter of time. With Paulo macro tweeting, at
11:18
this point, I'm largely convinced that Trump is going
11:20
to fire Powell regardless of what courts say and
11:22
deal with the fallout later. This all
11:24
puts Treasury Secretary Besson in a very
11:26
difficult position. One of his primary goals
11:28
for the year is to roll over trillions of dollars
11:30
in national debt without increasing the interest burden. And
11:32
for that, he needs bond yields to drop. Politico
11:35
reports that Besant has repeatedly cautioned the
11:37
president that any attempt to fire Powell
11:39
would risk destabilizing financial markets. By
11:41
all accounts, Besant is one of the sole moderating forces
11:43
in the White House. The Wall Street
11:45
Journal reported that he and Commerce Secretary Howard
11:47
Lutnick engineered the tariff pause. They
11:49
state the quote intervention was arranged while
11:51
trade advisor Peter Navarro was occupied in
11:54
another meeting. Besant and Lutnik reportedly
11:56
helped compose the post that put the tariffs
11:58
on hold and refused to leave until the president
12:00
hit send. So what did this all mean
12:02
for markets? Well, the weak saw risk markets
12:04
continue to drop, no surprise there, but maybe
12:06
the more alarming action was in macro assets. Felix
12:09
Javan, again, a forward guidance, tweeted, The
12:12
issue here is
12:14
that there is
12:16
no safe haven
12:18
bid for U
12:20
.S. bonds in
12:22
the dollar. Instead, this
12:24
looks like capital flight normally associated
12:26
with financial crises in emerging markets. Volatility
12:28
was down across the week, slowing
12:30
the decline in stocks, but it's still
12:32
elevated from March levels. For
12:34
Bitcoin, as always happened, some were quick to declare
12:36
the asset a failure. On Wednesday,
12:39
JPMorgan analysts wrote, Bitcoin has failed to benefit
12:41
from the safe haven flows that have been
12:43
supporting gold. The recent price action was even
12:45
enough for Lynn Alden to lower her expectations. She
12:48
said, Her
12:51
new end of year target is no more
12:53
optimistic than regaining the $100 ,000 price level. David
12:56
Duong, the head of research at Coinbase
12:58
Institutional, even suggested that the data shows a
13:00
new crypto winter settling in. Bitcoin's
13:02
price action throughout last week was
13:04
aggressively sideways. Despite a ton of
13:07
volatility, prices never dropped below $83 ,000
13:09
or above $86 ,000. That is until
13:11
Sunday night when Bitcoin broke out
13:13
of range and spiked to $87 ,500. While
13:15
that's still only recapturing price levels from late
13:17
March, many are sitting up and paying attention.
13:20
ZeroHedge wrote, There it is. Dollar
13:22
disintegrating and suddenly Bitcoin soars higher.
13:24
Looks like regime shift finally kicked
13:26
in. Thomas Farer of Apollo Sats
13:29
tweeted, Bitcoin is pumping while stock futures
13:31
are trading down. It's almost like the
13:33
market is treating it like it's an alternative financial system
13:35
or something. On the policy side,
13:37
it looks like there are a few new headwinds for
13:39
getting crypto legislation done. Veronica Irwin of
13:41
Unchained reports that crypto investors are lobbying Congress
13:43
to put market structure bills on hold. According
13:45
to their sources, the argument is that the
13:47
SEC should be left to pass their own
13:49
regulation under the current laws. One
13:51
source said, This
13:54
is a particularly stupid thought if
13:57
you ask me, with no real
13:59
consideration for how much a lack
14:01
of regulation actually impacts things, but
14:03
there you have it. GOP lawmakers
14:05
have been firmly fixed on getting
14:07
market structure done by August, which
14:09
was a goal set by the
14:11
administration. The logic was always that
14:13
getting clear laws written would prevent the next
14:16
Gensler. The proposal currently on the table
14:18
essentially puts the CFTC in control of
14:20
regulating markets, while the SEC deals with token
14:22
issuance within a clear framework. One
14:24
congressional staffer said that these new lobbying
14:26
efforts are severely misguided, stating, We
14:29
are kind of near the apex
14:31
of crypto's power because of, frankly,
14:33
all the money that was spent
14:35
on the election and the fact
14:37
that their favorite candidates got elected.
14:40
This moment in time will not
14:42
last. Crypto lawyer Gabriel Shapiro
14:44
was very unimpressed by the shortsightedness
14:46
commenting, For
14:48
so many years I
14:50
argued the SEC is
14:53
the logical regulator for
14:55
crypto, it just needs
14:57
friendlier regulations. That the CFTC
14:59
could end up being much worse and it
15:01
was a mistake to just pass a big bill
15:03
giving CFTC authority, hoping that it will magically
15:05
fix things. Now, the circumstances have changed, they realize
15:07
the own goal committed by spending years doing
15:09
nothing but trying to make sure the SEC has
15:12
little to no authority over crypto, while basically
15:14
having no other plan for how crypto actually would
15:16
be regulated just by anyone but the SEC. Even
15:19
the stablecoin bill, which was viewed as
15:21
an easy lift, is looking more shaky as
15:23
details get hashed out. Reports suggest a
15:25
three -way turf war has broken out between
15:27
lobbyists. Circle and Tether are still fighting
15:29
it out over how much leeway should be
15:31
granted to overseas firms during a transitionary period, Meanwhile,
15:33
the banking lobby is ramping up efforts to
15:35
lock them out entirely. The Block reports
15:37
the Bank of America has been pushing hard to
15:39
ensure that commercial firms like tech companies can't
15:41
launch their own stablecoins. One lobbyist
15:43
source said, Their
16:01
solution, severely limiting the stablecoin operations
16:03
of non -banks, would also hinder incumbents
16:05
like Circle and Tether if they can't
16:07
obtain banking licenses. Aside from
16:09
Bank of America, sources say that
16:11
Fidelity, Goldman Sachs, and BNY have
16:13
also shown interest in issuing stablecoins. One
16:16
lobbyist said, quote, there's this kind
16:18
of territorial battle between the non -bank issuers, the
16:20
crypto issuers, and potential market entrants like the
16:22
banks, saying the quiet part out loud they
16:24
added that the banks would like to, quote, own it
16:26
all instead of open networks to exist. TLDR,
16:28
the entire thing is getting very
16:30
messy. Now, despite uncertainty
16:32
in how legislation will shake out,
16:35
the institutional adoption story continues apace. On
16:37
an earnings call last Thursday, Charles Schwab's
16:39
CEO, Rick Worster, said, Nate
16:58
Grassy of the ETF store believes that the
17:00
slow and steady adoption of crypto is inevitable, tweeting,
17:03
Still,
17:08
I gotta say, coming back into this week,
17:10
this is a very tough time. One
17:13
thing that I don't think has been discussed
17:15
enough yet is that whether it pays off
17:17
or not, the Trump administration is basically spending
17:19
all, and I mean 100 % of its
17:21
political capital on these tariffs. Feels
17:23
to me like they have very little room
17:25
to push things like stablecoin legislation. And
17:27
so I am increasingly nervous that not
17:30
just from a market standpoint, but from a
17:32
political will standpoint, almost everything that we
17:34
hope for out of this administration is unlikely
17:36
to come to pass. Now that
17:38
is not a foregone conclusion, and there
17:40
are plenty of scenarios that I could draw where
17:42
things go a different direction, markets get back
17:44
online, tariffs seem to start to work, trade deals
17:46
start to happen, and an immense amount of
17:48
political will comes flooding back into the administration. However,
17:52
it's a gamble and we're in the middle part where we
17:54
don't know if it's going to pay off yet. For
17:56
now that that is going to do it for today's breakdown,
17:58
excited to be back with you guys this week covering
18:00
it all as it happens. Until next time, be safe and
18:02
take care of each other. Peace!
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