0:01

I am actually recording this on Thursday night

0:03

and by the time you hear my voice

0:05

on Friday, it's my

0:07

expectation that the International Court of

0:09

Justice in The Hague in Netherlands

0:12

will have made their initial

0:15

ruling in the ICJ

0:18

in the genocide case against Israel

0:20

brought by South Africa. I

0:23

want to tell you what the options

0:25

are, what I think

0:27

is going to happen, and

0:29

what the response is going to be

0:32

to whatever the ICJ determines.

0:36

And there's been some breaking news today about all

0:38

of this. And so I'll just try

0:40

to prepare you the best I can for

0:42

however the ruling ends up. And

0:45

I'll be back on Monday to unpack

0:47

and explain the ruling. But

0:50

I'll be traveling and speaking in Canada tomorrow. I just

0:52

wanted to come in here and try

0:54

to help you understand what's going to happen. Let me

0:56

unpack and explain it. This is

0:58

Sean King and you're listening to

1:01

the breakdown. As

1:20

you may know, and I won't

1:22

go into deep detail about the

1:25

nature and structure of the International

1:27

Court of Justice. I won't go into

1:29

deep detail because I have an entire

1:31

episode already. If you just scroll back just

1:34

a couple of weeks, I believe you'll see

1:37

some, I think a few episodes that I

1:39

recorded telling you the difference

1:41

between the International Criminal Court and

1:43

the International Court of Justice. The

1:45

International Criminal Court is not

1:47

making any kind of ruling tomorrow. They haven't

1:50

really publicly said much at all. The

1:53

International Court of Justice, which

1:55

is connected

1:58

to the United States. nations but

2:01

functions very much still as

2:03

its own independent body. The

2:07

Security Council of the UN or

2:09

the UN itself cannot override what

2:12

the International Court of Justice decides

2:14

but theoretically it is

2:17

the United Nations that will enforce

2:20

whatever the ICJ decides tomorrow.

2:22

Now the International

2:25

Court of Justice, this was not

2:27

the trial. Okay,

2:29

this is South

2:31

Africa filed what

2:33

could best be described as an

2:35

emergency case asking

2:37

for an emergency ruling and

2:40

injunction on a present

2:42

currently active

2:44

genocide by

2:46

Israel against the Palestinians and

2:49

when such a request is made it typically takes

2:52

a couple of weeks. South

2:54

Africa got a few hours to make a case

2:56

and submit a very detailed brief. Israel

2:59

got a chance to respond and include

3:01

their very detailed brief and

3:03

then it will take a couple of weeks for

3:05

that panel of judges to make their decision.

3:07

A few days ago South

3:10

Africa first announced that they were contacted

3:12

by the ICJ. The ICJ then released

3:14

a press release saying yes on

3:17

Friday we are releasing

3:19

our initial decisions

3:22

based on the case that was presented to

3:24

us. Now there

3:27

are seven or eight like

3:30

micro decisions that

3:32

they will rule on tomorrow and

3:35

really no matter

3:37

what their ruling is a much

3:42

longer deeper more serious

3:45

trial will eventually take place

3:47

in the International Court of

3:49

Justice unless and I don't believe

3:51

this is going to happen tomorrow but I

3:53

just have to put all my cards on

3:55

the table these are just educated

3:58

guesses I don't have any insight in information.

4:01

Nobody I know really has the inside information.

4:03

I have plenty of

4:05

attorney friends who've argued cases before the

4:07

ICJ, who know some of the judges

4:10

on the ICJ, but

4:12

those judges have been

4:14

airtight, you know, there have

4:16

been no leaks and if they've had

4:18

any interactions with anyone

4:20

about this, it hasn't leaked at all

4:22

and I doubt they have. They understand

4:25

the gravity and importance and seriousness of

4:27

this. So tomorrow,

4:29

in summary,

4:32

or Friday if you're listening to

4:34

this on Friday rather, today

4:39

when the ICJ releases

4:41

their ruling, there are

4:43

two primary factors that we're

4:46

looking for. Will

4:48

they say, yes, this is

4:50

a genocide and

4:53

there are many different ways

4:55

that they are going to rule on that.

4:58

Will they say, yes, this meets the

5:00

legal definition of genocide and

5:03

two, and perhaps most importantly, I think

5:06

one is crucial, essential

5:09

to have this diverse international body say,

5:11

yes, it is genocide or no,

5:13

it is not genocide. It

5:15

won't determine how I feel. Like,

5:18

you know, I will make, I have

5:20

made my own judgments based on international

5:22

law and the evidence that we see.

5:25

However, it's very important, what they

5:27

decide tomorrow, excuse me,

5:30

what they decide today, clearly

5:32

I have not pre-recorded

5:34

an episode in a very long

5:37

time. Man, I'm bad at this.

5:41

Whatever they decide about genocide

5:43

is essential because if the

5:46

International Court of Justice, which is one of

5:48

the most respected, independent, judiciary's

5:51

in the world, says, yes, this

5:53

is genocide. Israel

5:55

has already announced, and Benjamin Netanyahu

5:57

has already announced, That we.

6:00

Not abide by anything they decide.

6:02

Which is Crazy. The.

6:04

United States and a couple of the

6:06

United States allies and basically said the

6:09

same thing. Because even

6:11

today. A Kirby, one of

6:13

the spokespeople for the White House and

6:15

State Department Parm Defense has openly said.

6:18

Area We think this case is garbage and

6:20

which is in essence them saying. The.

6:22

Ruling doesn't matter to us, but. I

6:24

assure you, the ruling matters to

6:26

the entire world. That's. Why the

6:29

United States and Israel is trying to undercut it?

6:31

Because. His the I Cj rules that

6:34

this is a genocide. In.

6:36

Vain gives most of the rest of

6:38

the world. Something to

6:40

stand on. And.

6:45

Like for me. Seeing.

6:47

The suffering of Palestinians is enough to

6:49

stand on. I don't need the

6:51

I Cj. Like. I see what's

6:53

happening. I study it and watch

6:55

it and. I'm in

6:58

communication. Day in and

7:00

day out with people on the ground in

7:02

Gaza in the West Bank, and Palestinians around

7:04

the Das Burrow. But. For

7:07

most international countries.

7:12

To. Have the I Cj call it

7:14

a genocide. Will. Give them.

7:17

An independent body to say hey,

7:19

we are. Ceasing. All relations

7:21

with Israel. We are seizing on trade

7:23

with Israel. If. It's rude a

7:25

genocide he will give the people of Yemen. And

7:28

the brothers of Yemen that have been in

7:30

the Red Sea trying to stop all ships

7:32

going towards Israel. It will

7:34

allow them to say listen. We were

7:36

doing our duty to stop a genocide.

7:39

So. How they rule on whether or

7:41

not it is a genocide is very

7:43

important. On secondly, and

7:46

perhaps most important, They

7:49

will rule to say we determined

7:51

and an immediate ceasefire should take

7:53

place. Or we have not

7:56

determined. and an immediate ceasefire

7:58

should take place that's particularly

8:00

important. I've got to run here in just a

8:02

moment. That's

8:04

particularly important because

8:06

Hamas just released an

8:09

official statement saying that

8:12

if the International Court of

8:14

Justice says that an immediate

8:16

ceasefire is warranted,

8:19

we will have an immediate ceasefire

8:21

as long as Israel also commits

8:23

to an immediate and permanent ceasefire.

8:27

And so Hamas has already said, listen,

8:29

we will follow. We will follow the

8:31

ruling. And they have

8:35

basically dared Israel to say that

8:37

they will or won't. Now,

8:39

I believe, again, these are just

8:42

educated guesses. I have

8:44

done some research and studying on each

8:46

judge, their own politics and

8:48

positions and the politics and positions of the

8:50

countries they come from. However,

8:53

my educated guess is

8:56

that they will rule that

8:58

it is genocide, but

9:01

that they likely won't rule

9:04

for an immediate ceasefire. I

9:07

hope I'm wrong. I

9:09

think it's going to be a mixed decision

9:11

tomorrow and again

9:13

today. It's going

9:15

to be a mixed decision when the ruling

9:18

comes down on Friday in the International Court

9:20

of Justice, but all we can do

9:22

is wait and see. And

9:24

because we're in

9:27

many ways in uncharted territory,

9:31

how the world responds, we don't

9:33

yet know. I'm

9:35

watching closely. Please go

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9:39

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9:41

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9:44

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9:46

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9:48

I make a post, you get it directly from me.

9:51

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9:53

the links and details so that you can watch

9:56

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9:58

hope you're able to. Follow an intricate

10:00

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10:03

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