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it's the most dangerous morning show to

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breakfast club. Charlemagne the God just hilarious is

2:13

here in via is not Lauren LaRosa is

2:15

filling in and we got the fabulous

2:17

Coco Jones here. What's happening? Why

2:25

not more I'm gonna tell you

2:27

right now definitely don't care about

2:29

you. Oh And gonna tell you

2:31

why I'm gonna tell you why

2:33

they sent your album at 744

2:36

a .m. This morning and

2:38

I said no we should cancel the interview because

2:40

it's not fair to you as an artist and

2:42

it's not fair to us as hosts and because

2:44

you know you're you're sitting here now and then

2:46

you know people will be in your face talking

2:48

to you about everything except for your music and

2:50

people will wonder why why are they always just

2:52

focused on the mess why are they talking about

2:54

everything but our music it's because your label didn't

2:56

send it until 744 this morning we're doing a

2:58

show who got time to listen to the album

3:00

I hear you. So yes, that's the reason why.

3:02

That was the hold up. So I don't know

3:04

what the label told you. But that was the

3:07

reason I was like, you know what? Let's cancel

3:09

the interview. Dang. So you still want to do

3:11

it? Yeah, we're doing it now. But I just

3:13

like, Lauren did a crash, listened to that. Baby,

3:15

that's why I was rushing for these papers, OK?

3:17

Because I am a fan. I do feel like

3:19

you deserve your moment. It

3:21

went down how he said it went down. I

3:23

ain't get a chance to listen to it. After I

3:25

ain't be left. He was like, I ain't listen

3:27

to it. I'm not gonna do it like that. And

3:29

he didn't say cancel. He said reschedule. He didn't

3:31

just say cancel you. He was like, we should reschedule

3:33

it because that's not fair to either party. I

3:35

don't think it's fair to you at all. I

3:38

mean, I hear what you're saying. I definitely feel

3:40

like I would want y 'all to hear it

3:42

if y 'all would want to ask me questions about

3:44

it. I also know though, like, there's

3:46

only, I only got the right now. You know,

3:48

I'm going on tour right after I drop.

3:50

this album, so I do want to still talk

3:52

about it. And I can still, I can share

3:54

what I know. And 'all can listen to it

3:56

when you get to listen to it. But

3:59

also, I love my labels. They

4:01

do have my labels. I

4:03

feel, I gotta speak for my team. I'm

4:06

not gonna let you just say that. And it's

4:08

in the album till 7 .44 this morning. This

4:10

is a radio station. You're an artist. I love

4:12

my label. They be doing right by me. What's she

4:14

only doing what I would do if somebody talk

4:17

about one of y 'all? I'd be like, what? I

4:27

feel like your

4:29

music has been

4:31

so big but

4:33

this is your

4:36

technical like first

4:38

album. Yeah, it is

4:40

my first album ever which is weird though

4:42

because I feel like On one on one

4:44

side, I feel like like deja vu in

4:46

a way. But on the other side, I'm

4:48

like, OK, technically, I have never put out

4:50

an album. So I've I've been it's like

4:52

weird to say that like an album. I've

4:54

been used to say an EP, which is

4:56

different. It's different, but similar to what is

4:58

the difference? What do you think the difference

5:01

is between the EP and an actual album?

5:03

I think, honestly, the weight that they hold.

5:05

I mean, an EP is like a feeler.

5:07

It's a little safer. a

5:09

little like less serious. And

5:11

then an album is like, you know,

5:14

it's a chapter. You really respect it as

5:16

an entire project. And then there's like

5:18

a way more serious like rollout and there's

5:20

way more intentions behind it. I feel

5:22

like with my EP, there were no expectations.

5:24

And now with my album, I have

5:26

so many expectations. Me, myself, and then

5:29

of course, like, the world. And that's why

5:31

the label should send it to people, especially radio

5:33

stations, before they do interviews. Lauren, you say

5:35

what you say before Cocoa walked in. You better

5:37

keep that theme energy. No, no, I have,

5:39

first of all, I said it all in love,

5:41

so it's going to be safe. But I'm

5:43

making sure Jess has the album research that we

5:45

have, because I do want to talk about

5:47

it, because what I feel like happens with you

5:49

is, you have these big moments, like I

5:51

see you, and when those things drop, it's... everything

5:53

Coco Jones and we as fans feel like

5:55

you are such a prize to R &B and

5:57

what you do you deserve that consistently but then

5:59

when things like today happen like if I

6:01

didn't push we wouldn't be doing this and you

6:03

deserve that moment it's unfair to you and

6:05

I think that that's sometimes why as a fan

6:07

we feel like your music like suffers like

6:09

we have to like search for more than just

6:11

like the clicky stuff and you know like

6:13

even in listening to the music I was happy

6:15

we got to listen to it even though

6:17

I only got five songs because I could even

6:19

feel in your music, this is different because

6:21

to me, it's like you're more into yourself. There's

6:23

a lot more like sexual conversation of you're

6:25

a woman, you're here. And I know that that's

6:27

what you want people to see you as

6:29

because you've worked so hard. I don't think sometimes

6:31

that the way that things appear to us

6:33

as fans that they're set up, you get that.

6:35

And I don't think it's fair to you.

6:37

That's what I said before you came in here.

6:39

I could definitely understand that perspective. I feel

6:41

like also though, like there's just so much. Out

6:44

every freaking day, you know, so in general

6:46

it's like who has the real formula to put

6:48

everyone's eyes on that one thing all the time.

6:50

If so, then everyone would copy that, and

6:52

then that would be a wash, you know what

6:54

I'm saying? So I'm like, there really is

6:56

no formula. I can understand that, but I'm like,

6:59

I don't even know what to tell people to

7:01

do. The people that I'm seeing, they're doing

7:03

what they're supposed to do, because I'm looking at

7:05

you right there. I'm seeing you doing the

7:07

things, you know, and I'm doing everything that I'm

7:09

told to do. So it's like, there's no real

7:11

formula for that, know? It's how you look

7:13

at it, and I love the way that you

7:15

look at it, because it's a lot that

7:17

you have to offer. You're an actress, you're an

7:19

artist. And speaking of how...

7:21

at things, taste, the

7:23

visual. What made you step out and

7:25

be like that? I've never seen you

7:27

like that. Now you're always sexy, always,

7:29

you know what I mean? But you've

7:31

never, ever popped out like that. The

7:33

visual for taste. What made

7:35

you say, I'm gonna just give

7:37

him a lot more sexy than I've ever

7:40

before. She was giving? Yeah, she was very much

7:42

giving, baby. I'm trying to tell you the

7:44

time is now. I never even knew that she

7:46

could dance like that, honestly. Pink,

7:48

pink, what was it? What

7:59

ignited that Coco Jones fire?

8:01

What was that? Well, first of

8:04

all, I mean, the song

8:06

itself is sexy. You know what

8:08

I'm saying? But I think

8:10

for me, I want people to

8:13

Already know like hey, she does multiple different sides of

8:15

her like of course I can do like the

8:17

belting and I'm in my feelings and I'm going there

8:19

and it's vocals and it's all of that But

8:21

like I don't want to do a whole show of

8:23

that. You know, that's just not how I authentically

8:25

feel right now I mean I'm 27 I have other

8:27

sides to me the way I talk with my

8:29

girls the way I talk when I'm mad like I

8:31

want to be able to show those different sides

8:34

too So I feel like when do I do that?

8:36

It would have to be now You know what

8:38

I'm saying to like get people warmed up to different

8:40

versions of me and honestly when I made taste

8:42

My album was already done. It was supposed to be

8:44

out in October. And then it

8:46

just wasn't flowing right. So we, you know,

8:48

pushed it back. And so I kind

8:50

of had no, I guess, expectations that

8:52

I put on myself. And I was kind of

8:54

like, I did my part. So like, I'm just going

8:56

to have fun. And then that led to Taste,

8:58

which to me, it was just so fun. And it

9:01

was spring and it was scary. So

9:03

I just, I just wanted to do

9:05

it. So what was Def Jam? You

9:07

had the album since October? Where

9:14

is the grace in the room? Where

9:16

is it? I just want the best

9:18

for Coco Jones. Thank you. You said that they're doing

9:20

good things for you. I'm just simply saying why not

9:22

more? Okay, well you

9:24

ate that part Anyway,

9:27

so a version of it was done in October, but a

9:29

lot of it changed a lot of it changed like

9:31

me I mean taste happened because there was no, you know,

9:33

there was no expectation And it was scary because I

9:35

was gonna get mixed reactions. I knew that Like, some people

9:37

are gonna be like, you're this girl, you're the same

9:39

girl, don't dance, don't do that, don't be sexy, you know

9:41

I'm saying? And then other people are gonna live for

9:43

it, so I kinda just had to be okay with that,

9:45

because I feel like, what am I supposed to do?

9:47

You know, it's my life too, and I'm still a developing

9:50

artist, these are the things I wanna do and try,

9:52

and maybe one day I'll look back, I mean, I probably

9:54

will look back at some of the things that I

9:56

did and be like, but like, give me the

9:58

time. mean? It's crazy, though. You

10:00

keep it, I mean, not to be like funny.

10:02

You keep it tasteful when you do. Absolutely.

10:04

Even taste was tasteful. And it was the non

10:06

-temperate experience. Well, actually, though, that

10:08

was it. It was cut down and

10:10

down and down. I really did. I'm

10:12

going to say I really did try

10:15

a lot of things because I wanted

10:17

to see what they look like on

10:19

myself. Because also, like, I

10:21

don't know how I feel doing something

10:23

until I try it. Either

10:25

I could live with the regret and the fear

10:28

of, like, I don't even want to push it

10:30

like that. Or I could try things. And luckily

10:32

I have a team who's like, try it. You

10:34

know, they'll help me facilitate figuring out who I

10:36

am all the way. And so I did do

10:38

way more than that's in that video. But

10:40

it just wasn't there, right? Is that

10:42

why? So the timeline he talked about October

10:44

to when we get in there, and

10:46

that's why things have been, like, changing. And

10:48

that's why we got the stuff late,

10:50

is because everything was changing? No, the songs

10:52

changed from October. Some of them changed.

10:54

Some of them changed from October to now.

10:56

coming out but taste the video I

10:59

was just saying like yeah the edits of

11:01

it like they it got chopped and

11:03

screwed a lot because I wasn't feeling some

11:05

of the ways that I looked I

11:07

wasn't feeling it for myself like it didn't

11:09

feel like me you know some of

11:11

it felt like me trying to do something

11:13

versus some of it felt like me

11:15

being me and I just kept what was

11:17

like a green light in my spirit

11:19

you know is that is now is cocoa

11:21

in taste or is that

11:23

like happy in a relationship, Coco? Or

11:25

like, oh, I'm getting done right, Coco.

11:28

You know what I'm saying? Or is

11:30

that just a side of you that

11:32

we have not seen that you just, you

11:35

know I'm saying? You saying? I think it's just I'm grown.

11:37

And you know, me and my girls, we

11:39

talk like this. Like when we're flirty, like

11:41

when we're sensual, like we grown. You know

11:44

what I'm saying? Like music is all of

11:46

the things. It's in love. It's late night.

11:48

It's anger. It's all of these emotions. So

11:50

I wanted to... I wanted to try to

11:52

show all the different sides of me and

11:54

really just learn like learn for myself. How

11:56

did that? How did that make me feel?

11:58

How did the video make me feel? How

12:00

did the responses being on tour and seeing

12:02

what people like and what they don't like

12:04

it? All kind of is like lights up

12:06

in my brain like okay now I know

12:08

that like I feel like it highlights things

12:10

and then I'm like Oh, that's what I

12:12

like. Oh, that's what I should be doing

12:14

more of. You know what I'm saying? Like,

12:17

yeah. So, OK, because, first of all, when

12:19

you talk about relationships, you're glowing instantly. We

12:21

had taste, so you tell somebody leaving a

12:23

legacy on your lips when they kissed you.

12:25

Then you got A -E -O -M -G. the

12:27

A -E sample? It's

12:30

the American Eagle. No.

12:33

Out. It was just

12:35

something to say. Yeah, it's just like the sounds

12:37

when you're feeling good when you're in the midst

12:39

of all of the things. You got that one. Girl,

12:41

you got the song. Here we go. Is that the song where

12:43

you talk about you trying to get over somebody but they won't

12:45

leave you alone because you let up with your new boo? You've

12:48

been talking about being happy in these interviews. And

12:50

then people are saying that it's Donovan Mitchell. Is

12:52

this your bae? Is that what's happening? I'm

12:55

happy. That's all I got to say

12:57

about it. I mean, already know. Okay,

13:00

so it is. And the music gives happy, so

13:02

I'm happy for you. They don't even mention the basketball

13:04

player? Yes. No, the nigga

13:06

who sell houses. I don't know what I've

13:08

ever heard before. I didn't know that. Hey,

13:10

I'm crying. But no, I talk about as

13:12

much as I feel like I want to

13:14

talk about because I'm not the type to

13:16

be giving out all of my details. That's

13:18

just not my truth. I give as much

13:20

as I can, and I give my everything

13:22

when it comes to this music shit. So

13:24

I'm like... I'm happy. And yeah, y 'all

13:26

know it is. Did you write all the

13:28

songs on the album? I co -wrote a lot

13:30

of them, I would say 90%. Then a

13:32

couple of them, I didn't write them. Okay,

13:34

here we go. Did you write, here we

13:36

go? Okay, when I listen to it,

13:38

I can feel that you wrote it because of the

13:40

way that you sing it versus some of the

13:42

other songs. Not that they're not good, but you can

13:44

do That's the one you let me hear with

13:46

that hard -ass beat? Yes. I heard that. Yeah, that

13:48

one, I was like, this one right here, I know

13:50

she wrote this one. I feel that. When you're

13:52

writing and you say you don't want to give everything

13:54

to everybody, but I listen to this project and

13:56

I'm like, oh, my girl is in love and it's

13:58

good. Period. How do you hold back on certain

14:00

things to not give it all? Because it's oozing out

14:02

of you in the music. Thank you. Thank you.

14:04

Well, I feel like a lot of the things I

14:07

talk about are very relatable. It's not like I'm

14:09

like, and then we pulled up at something like, and

14:11

it's very specific to me, you know, I try

14:13

to make songs that are useful. You know

14:15

what I'm saying? So I'm trying to say things

14:17

that I feel, but in a general way. And

14:19

also I love to co -write because I feel

14:21

like I don't have the only perspective and I'm

14:23

trying to make songs that, you know, have a

14:25

wider range of perspective. So I'll be having me

14:27

and somebody else or a couple of people going

14:29

back and forth to make it feel like this

14:31

is what we really say. This is how we

14:33

really talk as people, you know what I'm saying?

14:35

And then also I feel like other than that,

14:37

in like interviews, you know, you just pivot. Can

14:41

I ask you about this line from Here We Go?

14:43

Because I don't know what this means. Why has it got

14:45

to be your way? I want it to be mine.

14:47

What you think this is for play must be out your

14:49

mind. Like I was basically saying when

14:52

you're playing with somebody's emotions, when you in and

14:54

out of their life, like, like, do you feel

14:56

like that's funny or hot or like, are you into

14:58

that? Like, what's wrong with you? You know I'm

15:00

saying? Okay, okay, okay, So, know? Okay, so could you

15:02

use the word four plates, but you're talking about,

15:04

I get what you're saying. Like, are you thinking you

15:06

flirt me when you're playing with my life, when

15:08

you're playing in my face? Like, do you think

15:10

I like that? Because in the song, she's like, yo,

15:12

I'm happy over here. I like where I'm at,

15:14

but you just, you pop up in my likes.

15:17

You showing up places like, you think that this is

15:19

like, this is it? Like that, no, leave me

15:21

alone. But he's not leaving her alone. And those

15:23

guys be kind of low key, having a little hold,

15:25

even though they shouldn't. Like the guy,

15:27

so if you're moved on and you're trying to

15:29

you? No, just in general. Why

15:31

is she bothering you? I feel like everybody

15:34

can have that person that you know can

15:36

always slide back. Trust me, not

15:38

alone. You're right. I don't have that

15:40

because I'm disconnected from anything toxic and I'm moving

15:42

into my glory and my happiness. Wow. I

15:45

love that. Aka, I'm single. Nobody wants me. You

15:49

know what? That is so

15:52

foul. You're beautiful. I know they be in

15:54

your phone. But you just be blocking the

15:56

things No, not they. He won. That was

15:58

the one? So

16:04

that was one where are we going with

16:06

this? Anyway,

16:09

I got a thank you cuz I

16:11

read Why why why more why not

16:13

more what what did you did you

16:16

come up with that title? Okay, so

16:18

it's one of the songs that is

16:20

on the album. It's actually featuring Y

16:22

.D. Marley. And it's really dope. It's

16:24

like an island vibe. And

16:26

I really love that title because I felt like

16:28

that's what I kept asking myself. Like,

16:31

why would I hold back? You know, why

16:33

wouldn't I do the things that I feel like

16:35

I really want to do? And I feel

16:37

like all the answers were rooted in fear, like,

16:39

oh, they might not like it or it

16:41

might not work. And I'm like, I would rather

16:43

just try things and be able to like

16:45

learn from them than not try. and wonder what

16:47

would have happened if you know so that

16:49

kind of led to why not more being the

16:51

album name. But also I feel

16:53

like it was a little less serious like it

16:55

was between why not more or like self titled Cocoa

16:57

whatever but I'm like I don't even know if

16:59

I fully know Cocoa yet myself. So I don't know

17:01

if that's my truest, truest, truest truth to name

17:03

my album that I feel like why not more resonated

17:05

with me more because I'm just I ask myself

17:07

a lot of questions I ask my team a lot

17:09

of questions. I'm very curious and I'm still like

17:12

trying to figure it out. I love that because it

17:14

feels like you know you give your all. to

17:16

everything you do. So when you give your all, but

17:18

Def Jam doesn't, how does that make you feel? Why

17:21

are you still on that? You know

17:23

what? What? Why?

17:26

It's asking. It's asking. That one time from

17:28

the store, this is crazy. It is

17:30

crazy. Oh my god. I'm

17:32

like, here's what I really feel.

17:34

I really feel like it takes a

17:37

lot of effort and time to

17:39

make an artist work and for a

17:41

developing artist. And I feel like... I

17:43

really want people to do is to look at me

17:46

with the perspective of like, I'm not trying to do

17:48

like the trending here today and I'm going type thing.

17:50

I'm trying to make things that are timeless, but that

17:52

takes time and that takes effort. And I feel like

17:54

I have a team that does a lot for me

17:56

and has effort for me. Like, I wouldn't be up

17:58

here saying that if that wasn't my truth, you know

18:00

what I'm saying? Well, they dropped the ball this morning.

18:03

And at a crucial time like this, they shouldn't

18:05

be doing that. That's all I'm saying. So when

18:07

would you have prepared to listen to it? A

18:10

week ago. You're on the schedule

18:12

a week ago. We should have been at the arm We

18:14

should have mandated with the album for a while to

18:16

really be able to have a conversation. I like I think

18:18

albums are different than movies I don't like to watch

18:20

movies before I have conversations with people about their movies because

18:22

you don't want to spoil it But I think albums

18:24

are okay. Well, I got five singles out. Did you listen

18:26

to them? When you let

18:28

me hit this morning taste and

18:30

it was another one wasn't when you

18:33

let me this morning here I

18:35

go taste He needed to hear

18:37

that A -E -O -M -G, so he knows. I hate

18:39

A -E -O -M -G. American Eagle or M -G. He

18:41

looked like that one, too, though. You think so?

18:43

Yeah. Huh? What? He said, American Eagle, oh my

18:45

god. No, no, no, no, no. Shit. I

18:48

killed him. What

18:50

does that mean for real, though? What's that? A -E -O

18:52

-M -G. So basically, it's just like a freaky song. And

18:55

it's like, legs

18:57

on the ceiling got me like,

18:59

A -E -O -M -G. It's just something

19:01

to say. It's just fun. know what the

19:03

OMG is, but when is the AE? It was

19:05

like, you know how we say your vowels?

19:07

A -E -I -O -U. It was like that. A -E -O

19:10

-M -G. Yeah. Like she, it's just, yeah.

19:12

Dang. Yeah. We

19:14

was just having fun, right? I ain't doing it right. I ain't

19:16

never been nobody screaming on Vowels. Uh -uh. that.

19:18

Why? I do

19:21

that. I can't with that. But no, I'm

19:23

really excited. And you can listen to the album. It'll

19:25

be out on Friday. And then I'm curious to hear

19:27

your thoughts next time I see you. Absolutely. Were

19:30

you finishing? Little bit. Oh, because if I say I got

19:32

more stuff that I want to ask you. So

19:35

even in this moment right now, you're handling

19:37

this conversation very, very well. Thank you. Is

19:39

this, because you've done everything from Disney to

19:41

we've seen your Fresh Prince of Bel -Air,

19:43

the Remaker. What is it called on Peacock?

19:45

Bel -Air. Bel -Air. I'm on Bel -Air. You've been

19:47

doing it for a long time. Yeah. Does

19:49

that, does this, your Bel -Air? Have you

19:51

ever looked around at your crew and thought,

19:53

man, these are my people? The ones

19:56

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19:58

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app, Apple Podcast or wherever. You get your

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podcast. Do you do this and still

23:29

say human come from that? Or are you daily

23:31

like kind of like prepping yourself up like, hey, these

23:33

are things that are going to be asked. I

23:35

got to be ready for it. Like, are you just

23:37

going to hear like, yo, I got this. No,

23:39

I think I. I do have to remind myself, like,

23:42

when I'm doing press, like, okay, these are probably

23:44

things that people are gonna want to talk about. What

23:46

do I, like, I want to be into myself,

23:48

what I want to say, you know what I'm saying?

23:50

So that I'm not, like, caught off guard, even

23:52

though you did kind of catch me off guard, I

23:54

can't eat hoe, but, you know, I do have

23:56

that media training, period. But

23:59

other than that, I feel like... I feel

24:01

like honestly having the window of time where nobody

24:03

was really checking for me really brought me

24:05

to earth You know and it in a way

24:07

not like I was a gas up or

24:10

anything But I was just like a kid actor

24:12

and like you didn't you don't really have

24:14

a personality You know I'm saying you just doing

24:16

you just doing what you got to do

24:18

and you love it and that's happy and that's

24:20

fun, but I didn't live at all. Like

24:22

I didn't experience much. I was not like while

24:24

and out. I didn't I didn't do anything

24:26

really because I wanted to work. Yeah. So I

24:28

just wanted to be right for the job.

24:30

So I think that brought me to a reality

24:32

and like a kind of normalcy that I

24:34

feel like I even now I'm like, I'm really

24:36

not like normal. Like I feel like I

24:38

am. But you know, I can't just go and

24:40

move the way I want to move because

24:42

life is different. But I feel like I'm like

24:44

I'm never going to be able to change

24:46

because that window of time like was

24:48

so real to me of like absolutely nothing

24:50

going on that I feel like it it'll

24:53

never like nothing will really gas my head

24:55

up and nothing will really take me down

24:57

ever again. What is stuck with you you

24:59

know you were a child star so from

25:01

what did you learn as a child star

25:03

that stays with you now? Um

25:06

that this is business sometimes and it's not

25:08

personal and I can't like let it correlate

25:10

with my self -worth you know some of

25:12

it is like so out of my control

25:14

that it's like And it's

25:16

gone, you know, it's really not me. It's

25:18

really not me, you know And as long as

25:20

I like I feel like I'm giving my all

25:22

to the things that are in my control I'm

25:24

happy, you know And there's so much that I

25:27

like I can't make this album do any of

25:29

the things that I wanted to do I make

25:31

anything be the way that I wanted to be

25:33

but What I create that I can control so

25:35

that to me I feel like has become the

25:37

only thing that I correlate with like Did I

25:39

do a good job or not? Like is it

25:41

something that I could control? And did I do

25:43

my all there? Then I'm happy with that. That's

25:46

your serenity prayer. That's the serenity prayer. You know

25:48

what that is, right? Serenity prayer? Yeah. God

25:50

grant me the serenity to accept the things I

25:52

cannot change, courage to change the things I can,

25:54

and the wisdom to know the difference. So once

25:56

you put that album out into the ecosystem, side

25:58

of your control, whatever it sells, whatever radio does

26:00

with it, you did the best you could already

26:02

in the studio. Yeah, for sure. For sure. I

26:04

love how you defend your team. I love how

26:07

you speak up for your team. And

26:09

I love the fact that your mom...

26:11

has been like by your side through all

26:13

this. Is she your manager? No, my mom's

26:15

not my manager. She was for the time

26:17

when there was nobody, you know. But I

26:19

feel like now my mom is more

26:21

like my wife's counsel, you know. Love that.

26:23

Yeah. No, she was definitely one of them.

26:25

Make sure to tell her. Make sure to

26:27

tell Def Jam. Make sure to tell

26:29

your mom about Def Jam. She's

26:32

going to watch this. She's going to watch it. She's probably going

26:34

to be in your DM. Definitely. She's going to

26:36

say thank you. Okay. I

26:38

just hand it to Coco, her

26:40

first album ever. That

26:42

wasn't really the first, it was like fake

26:44

first album. It was like the first,

26:46

uh, mix table. award. First body award. Just

26:48

brought up your mom and I know your mom used

26:50

to help you do and package all those things, right?

26:52

Yeah, she actually, she said she brought a lot of

26:54

little packaging stickers and put them all there like squares

26:56

and put it in a thing and then it came

26:58

out printed like that. I don't know how she did

27:00

that. Office max. It's really giving

27:02

it. Yeah, you used to go to office max

27:04

and get those stickers and you used to put

27:06

them on the mix tapes and everything. Dang, I

27:08

don't know how she figured out how to do

27:10

that. But yeah, my mom was definitely like, you

27:12

got to have somebody who's willing to take you

27:14

to those places to wait on them sets for

27:17

you and like to, you know, a job that

27:19

you're auditioning for. You might not hear back whether

27:21

or not you got that for months. And you

27:23

might have to do so much in the meantime

27:25

to like prove your worth, you know? So somebody,

27:27

especially if you're, you know, you're a kid, somebody's

27:29

got to be willing to do that with you.

27:31

And I think my whole family, honestly, has

27:33

invested in this because me and my mom would

27:35

be gone. So that means my mom was gone

27:37

from her kids. My mom was gone from her

27:39

husband. We all like, we knew what it was

27:41

that we were like working towards. And so my

27:44

win is like, is everybody's win? Cause we all

27:46

put something in. What were your earliest memories of

27:48

wanting to be who you are now? Was that

27:50

your dream or did somebody instill that dream in

27:52

you? It was definitely me. Like even when I

27:54

had look at little kid videos of me, like

27:56

I would be like not even fully forming sentences,

27:58

but I would be singing though. And maybe like

28:01

sing and I'd like, yes, I would love to

28:03

sing. So it was it was always me. I

28:05

didn't think that like it could be a tangible

28:07

job, though. Like I knew sports was a real

28:09

job because my dad played the NFL. So I

28:11

was like, OK, this is a real job. This

28:13

can actually be something you do. But

28:15

I didn't know music could be something you

28:17

really do. I saw it on TV and and

28:20

I thought, you know, those people are doing

28:22

that. But it wasn't until like. My mom

28:24

introduced me to the opportunities that I was like,

28:26

you can try to do this yourself. Like

28:28

it's something I could do. And then there was

28:30

no stopping me. But then you also had

28:32

absence because you got in acting as well. Yeah.

28:34

Yeah. So which bug do you think, you

28:36

know, and I guess infected you the most? Music.

28:39

Definitely music. Yeah. I respect acting because it's

28:41

definitely outside of my comfort zone and it's stories

28:43

that are like outside of me. And you

28:45

do it well. Thank you. Thank you. But I

28:47

think music is like, it's just like home

28:49

to me. It just feels safe. So that was

28:51

your first love of an act? Yeah, absolutely.

28:53

Are you looking forward to more film though? Oh,

28:56

yes. I literally went to South Africa this

28:58

year to do a film. And I really think

29:00

it's going to be dope. I

29:02

really ideally I would love to be able to

29:04

do both every year. I think that that's

29:06

really cool when when artists can do that. So

29:08

I want to try to keep that up. Do

29:11

you have a favorite song on

29:13

this album or why not more? My

29:15

favorite song, I mean, it changes

29:17

all the time. But I would say

29:19

right now it's probably by

29:22

myself It's it's called it's called by

29:24

myself. It's basically saying I want to be

29:26

comfortable by myself I think I love

29:28

that one because um You know like it

29:30

reminds me like what's really important like

29:32

I got to know myself, you know, whatever's

29:34

happening around me is gonna I can't

29:36

let it influence me or affect me. I

29:38

got to know myself and also I

29:40

want to be Really in tune with myself.

29:42

I don't want to lose my my

29:44

voice. Yeah knowing who I am knowing what

29:46

I want out of all of this

29:48

knowing what's important to me And also, if

29:50

this all went away, it would be

29:52

me by myself. So am I cool with

29:54

that? I always want to check myself

29:56

be like, you cool with that? Have you

29:58

always felt comfortable by yourself? No, no.

30:00

I definitely feel like if anything, I felt

30:02

like something was wrong. If I didn't

30:04

have people around me like maybe like, you

30:06

know, you're not doing what you

30:08

need to be doing. You're not booked or all

30:10

the things like not. But I think also by

30:12

myself to me, it doesn't mean alone. It means

30:14

like intentionally. Sitting with yourself. Like

30:16

are you code meditation? Like

30:19

learning yourself and taking that quiet time. I feel

30:21

like that's when I get a lot of ideas. I

30:23

feel like that's when I can like feel things

30:25

and like unpack things. Like what the heck was that?

30:27

Actually, I really didn't like the way he was

30:29

saying that. You know what I'm saying? Not

30:31

nothing like that. I'm just saying like you

30:33

really like can think about things that are going

30:35

on. There's so much sound. There's so much

30:37

going on. There's so much fast pace that being

30:39

by yourself. I feel like it's like crucial

30:42

for self growth, you know? Did you see that

30:44

viral video of you and the reason why

30:46

I asked that you see it because a lot

30:48

of people don't be seeing stuff of themselves

30:50

like just because it hits blogs don't mean you

30:52

don't you see it but this is why

30:54

I was so shocked when when I saw it

30:56

taste because it was a video a couple

30:58

weeks ago that I saw that went viral uh

31:01

and it was you rehearsing but she was

31:03

looking like I ain't doing all that because they

31:05

was like jarring on each other I guess

31:07

your choreographer or whoever was um displaying what they

31:09

wanted you to do and you were looking

31:11

at like Uh -uh, your face was like, I'm

31:13

not it. No, I was so scared. So he

31:15

was throwing her up in the air. Yes.

31:17

And I'm tall, but I don't like

31:19

heights that I can't, that ain't my choice, you

31:21

know? So that's why I was looking scared as

31:23

hell. But I was proud of myself. I

31:26

told the choreographer at Leigh, I said, do what

31:28

you would do, not what you think I can do.

31:30

And let me see. What happens after that? If

31:32

it's too hard, I'm to tell you, girl. And some

31:34

of it was just too hard. But I was

31:36

proud of myself for trying it. I was literally in

31:38

a hoop. I had an airlist come and teach

31:40

me how to be in the hoop. And for one

31:42

part the video, I really was proud of myself.

31:44

I went outside my comfort zone. I was living for

31:46

it. Yeah. You talked about earlier the moment you

31:48

said when people weren't checking for you. It was like

31:50

when in between your Disney, like your next song

31:52

and stuff of that nature. And I watched an interview

31:54

where you were saying that you were almost embarrassed

31:56

to go out and get a job at certain points

31:58

and things of that nature. How do

32:00

you, because people were virally saying things about where you

32:02

been and stuff, how do you deal with those

32:04

moments when you're viral, but it's like for stuff that

32:06

you don't care to be viral for? Now that

32:09

you know yourself a bit, but you still figuring yourself

32:11

out? I'm

32:13

like, the internet isn't real. I'm like, what is

32:15

this place? It's not even like for real.

32:17

What's real is the people that I tend to

32:19

be talk to who know me, you know?

32:21

So I'm like, this is so not real. So

32:23

if something is going viral, I mean, I

32:25

might get a little summer drop like, yee. Because

32:27

I'm like used to people talking about my

32:30

music only. And so anything else is like, it's

32:32

still new to me that people care about

32:34

what I got going on personally. I'm like, 'all

32:36

care about that? OK. How

32:38

can we talk about your music if we

32:40

don't get to album tell 744? That's

32:43

not your fault though. Just talking about Def Jam. Continue.

32:46

Anyway, I really don't take it

32:48

seriously because I feel like people's attention span

32:50

is so short. It'll be important today. gone

32:52

tomorrow. Yeah, if you don't talk about it.

32:54

That's why I had to ask you, did

32:56

you see the video I'm talking about? Because

32:58

I know a lot of people are removed

33:00

from social media and internet. It's not a

33:02

real place. It's a whole bunch of people

33:04

who just say shit and just because they

33:06

feel like they can have a voice now.

33:08

It's like, all right, cool. So I feel

33:10

like even when people are like talking, I'm

33:12

like, they still talking. I'm like, go stream

33:14

that record if you're upset about something, go

33:16

stream it. The algorithm doesn't know the difference.

33:18

I know that's right. I'm not mad. I'm

33:20

not blocking nobody if you want to talk

33:22

keep Keep it on. I need them to

33:24

know that you're active on this page. Go

33:26

ahead. What are the plans for the album

33:28

release this weekend? I have a party in

33:30

Miami on Saturday in LA on Saturday. And

33:34

I'm I'm doing a performance tonight that

33:36

is is like an exclusive thing with Motorola.

33:38

But I'm really excited I'm going on

33:40

tour. So I've been prepping for that. I'm

33:42

doing interviews during the day and I've

33:44

been doing my rehearsals at night. And I'm

33:46

excited to put the show together. and

33:49

performing everywhere. I'm going to Europe too

33:51

to do some shows. I'm really

33:53

excited for her. You probably can't wait to write

33:55

a song about this. Him getting on your nerves all

33:57

day today. I'm gonna write a song about I

33:59

am here for Cocoa. Cocoa was born in Saaculina. She

34:01

was raised in Tennessee, but she got that Saaculina

34:03

in her. So I just want her to always be

34:05

getting done right times. Now people do steam, though. You

34:08

feel that you feel people stand you I know

34:10

when I was girl. Yes. Yes. Yes. I thought

34:12

you said staying no staying you like when something

34:14

had cuz I don't I don't think it's the

34:16

Disney stuff because sometimes they do that with certain

34:18

child actors and child stars But I think it's

34:20

just because we feel that you really care about

34:22

your work. Yeah, so anything else happens like when

34:24

the scissor the Shannon sharp question about scissors BBL

34:26

and it says the comments it Yeah, the world

34:28

was there was it was a stand thing. It

34:30

was like This was not for Coco. And then

34:32

SZA came out and said, no, why would that

34:34

be a Coco Jones question? I love SZA. I

34:36

was like, I was really caught off guard by

34:38

that. But no, I do feel the energy. And

34:40

people tell me all the time, like, when I

34:42

see them, they're like, we're so proud of you.

34:44

Like, we're rude if you're, I'm like, thank

34:47

you. I'm like, thank you. I don't

34:49

really know how to feel because for such

34:51

a long time, I was like, you

34:53

in your brain are like, nobody cares. Nobody

34:55

cares. Really? Trust

34:57

me. It was giving desert island. It's

34:59

because you had highs and lows Yeah, that's

35:01

what I was talking about earlier because

35:03

when you when you when the low hit

35:05

you were out the way you weren't

35:07

doing much anything And then you had to

35:09

come on the internet Damn, no, no,

35:11

that's real. She's talked about this publicly. Yeah,

35:13

I literally Yeah, she had to go

35:15

on line and talk about it. a whole

35:17

video about this. Yes, okay She do

35:19

that to people because I'm locked into your

35:21

journey and I appreciated your journey because

35:23

you talked about yo, this is what's really

35:25

happening right now, even though I don't

35:27

want to tell y 'all. And that's

35:29

why I think we lock in with you

35:31

because we can identify the ups and downs in

35:33

a real. And you got to fight to

35:35

come back. And when you come back, it's always

35:37

good music. Facts. And I do appreciate that.

35:40

I really, really do. I do feel the love.

35:42

And I want to give something good in

35:44

return for the people who care. And to support

35:46

me, I want to give something good. So

35:48

I'm glad that like... 'all know that I really,

35:50

really care about my stuff, for real. I'm trying

35:52

to make stuff that lasts. But

35:54

yeah, I love what I do and I

35:56

would do it all again, even though it

35:59

was so uncomfortable at that point for this

36:01

payoff and for also to inspire the next

36:03

girl, like, take it easy on yourself. Have

36:05

some grace. It don't mean it's you. Sometimes

36:07

they just don't know, you know? What point

36:09

did you get to that point where you

36:11

was like, yo, bro, I'm doing everything I

36:13

can do? I

36:15

feel like that's... always kind of where I

36:18

was at. I couldn't stop doing what I

36:20

loved because it was still so important to

36:22

me. But I think

36:24

when I did that video about everything

36:26

that happened, I was like, this

36:28

might be the last thing I ever do. So

36:30

I'm just keeping it real. I'm just

36:32

keeping it real. I don't know what's going to come

36:34

after this. But yeah, I feel like that was always

36:36

my truth. I'm giving it everything I got, so I

36:39

can live with that. It's just life in

36:41

life. If you really believe in God, you got to

36:43

respect the process. Real. Period. Real. I don't even believe

36:45

in so -called good or bad. I just believe everything

36:47

is part of one long process. Yeah. Whatever I'm going

36:49

through, this is what God want me to go through.

36:51

I completely agree with that. And I think there's a

36:53

certain amount of faith, too, that, like, if you know

36:55

it's on the way, how would you move? That's right.

36:57

And so sometimes I would post that cover, ooh, delete

36:59

the app, because I knew the engagement was so low.

37:01

But if it was on the way... How would I

37:03

move? I would still do this. I would still put

37:05

my voice out there. I would still write songs. I

37:07

would still do videos. I would still do it, you

37:09

know? I would still go to auditions if I knew

37:11

it was on the way. Me and my best friend

37:13

would talk about this all the time, because we were

37:15

both going through it at the same time. We actually

37:17

met on set, me and my best friend. We met

37:19

on the Disney Channel show when we were like 14. Who's

37:23

your best friend? Jalen. Her name's Jalen Bairn. She's an

37:25

amazing actress. You check her out, period. She's on a

37:27

lot of shows, and she does her big one. Oh,

37:29

I know that's right, best friend. I would never do

37:31

my best friend like that, because she a clown. But,

37:33

um... I don't know. the best friend that

37:35

I met? just like, no, no, no. That's

37:37

just what she does. Oh, oh, oh. Yeah.

37:41

That's the game when she's on my nerves. Yeah,

37:43

that's right. Mm -mm. No,

37:45

I'm crying. It's all right. I'm crying. Are

37:47

we getting a season four of Bella or you can't

37:49

talk about it? I can talk about it. What would

37:51

you do? doing the season four actually while I'm on

37:53

tour. I'll be filming some of it I'm gonna come

37:55

back to do my episodes, but It'll be the fourth

37:57

and final season. But I think it's

38:00

good that we know it'll be the final season

38:02

so we can do everything with, like, the

38:04

intention of, like, okay, let's put a bow on

38:06

it. And I'm really excited. I think we've

38:08

done something great that we, you know, it's a

38:10

blessing to keep people's attention for more than

38:12

a one season, more than one episode. So

38:14

I'm proud of what we've done, and

38:16

I hope it inspires more Black TV shows,

38:19

you know, that represent us and show

38:21

networks like, this is profitable, so

38:23

keep it up. I'm happy for

38:25

us. Are you happy? Yeah. OK. all

38:27

that matters. I am happy. OK. Because

38:30

you got to make sure one last time. No.

38:33

Are you happy? OK. First

38:35

of all, I know you have good

38:37

intentions. So I'm not even upset at all

38:39

at anything you've asked me. You've seen a

38:42

lot. You know a lot. And I appreciate,

38:44

you know, you speaking up and saying these

38:46

things. So I'm not mad at all. But

38:48

I'm very happy. I am. In personal,

38:50

in business, it'll all be what it

38:52

needs to be. That's what I've learned. I was

38:54

doing all that stressing for years trying to figure

38:56

out how it was gonna happen. Waste of time.

38:58

That's right. It happened in a way I could

39:00

have never even planned. So I have learned, and

39:02

I told God, I was like, I'm never gonna

39:04

do like that again. I'm so sorry. Because I

39:06

was like, are you serious? Wow. Yeah. I be

39:08

talking to him like my friend. like, what was

39:10

that? Because you know me. And I don't do

39:12

nothing crazy. So what's going on? But

39:14

yeah, everything happens the way it needs to.

39:16

So to me, I'm like, it's above me quite

39:19

literally. That's right. That evil man that used

39:21

to date. that was trying to remember the guy

39:23

you talked about in the video that was

39:25

uh financing the videos and then stopped and like

39:27

yeah him remember has he ever tried to

39:29

reach back out to you like oh my god

39:31

i'm so sorry i was i was wrong

39:33

like since you talked about i mean not on

39:35

not on some apology stuff but okay really

39:37

he'd be even with my mama And didn't even

39:39

apologize. Let me tell y 'all, this

39:41

man tried to ruin my girl. Are you

39:43

aware of his? God don't like ugly. Because look

39:45

at you now, that Taze video is cinema.

39:47

And he is mad. I buddy emailed her mother

39:50

right after that video. He was helping her

39:52

in the time when she was building everything back

39:54

up and he was financing the videos and

39:56

then he got upset because men are just men.

39:58

And wasn't going to help her no more and

40:00

tried to ruin her because of that. It

40:02

was basically, it was like a toxic little relationship

40:04

where like, I do this for you. you

40:06

do this for me, if you don't do that,

40:08

then I don't do that. It was like, very

40:11

much, yeah, very much. But I mean, at

40:13

the time I was like 20, I didn't know

40:15

what was going on at all. And in

40:17

life, you know, so, but yeah, I

40:19

think that was a really important lesson because

40:21

I was like, I'll never let somebody have

40:23

that much power over me again. It's just

40:25

too much power to give the one person.

40:28

But you know, I'm literally like, imagine me

40:30

going from like, literally homeschool, doing Disney

40:32

stuff to like, actually living at all. Like

40:34

it was like, I

40:37

was so I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful

40:39

that nobody was watching me because I was

40:41

I was out but though it takes things

40:43

like that for you to get to places

40:45

like this though because I was about to

40:47

ask you like do you regret that but

40:49

it's like you can't because that was a

40:51

step in the journey you know for you

40:53

to get where you at now or get

40:55

where you are now so yeah I mean

40:57

is your mother emailing back? What's the subject

40:59

line to be in? laugh, we laugh because

41:01

we laugh. Sir please love yourself. But

41:04

no I'm not mad at all actually that led

41:06

to me. meeting my therapist who I love. I

41:08

love, I love, I love. So I'm like, everything,

41:10

everything works out. Love that. Having a great therapist

41:12

is important. Hey, yes. Coco Jones, Why Not More

41:14

is available everywhere. You get your music now. Do

41:17

you want people to buy it? Stream it? I

41:19

don't even know how to. I want people to

41:21

buy it. I'm sorry, but if you go to,

41:23

you need to buy that. Cause look, the album

41:25

equivalent units, you know what I'm saying? You know

41:27

what saying? Oh yeah. Just buy it. I love

41:29

a stream. Go ahead and stream if you're going

41:31

to stream it. But if you want to do

41:34

anything, buy it. Watch the album, y 'all. All

41:36

right, much continued success, Coco. Thank you. I appreciate 'all.

41:38

And get the tickets for that tour. My baby's

41:40

about to go on tour. May 6. Thank you.

41:42

Here you go. Thank 'all for having me. You

41:45

can go on therealcocojones.com and get my ticket.

41:47

All right, it's Coco Jones at the Breakfast Club.

41:57

Hey kids, it's me Kevin Smith. And it's me

41:59

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42:01

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42:03

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42:05

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42:08

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42:10

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42:12

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42:14

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42:16

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42:18

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42:20

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42:22

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